Marika Mikiashvili - Georgians Understand if Protests Fail Russia will Control the Country's Destiny
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2024
- Marika Mikiashvili is an expert on Hybrid threats, governance in Europe & Central Asia and identity in former communist states. She is based in Tbilisi, Georgia and has been actively following and commenting on the anti-government protests unfolding in Georgia.
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Thank you .
all the best 🇬🇪 Georgia .
Don’t let Russia win.
It’s already in, can we get it out? That’s the question.
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i know that thanks
i have altered my thread.
i meant win
not in .🧐
Exceptional woman, well done Georgia!
very astute and articulate woman...from my years of experience in Russia...she is the kind of woman not appreciated in Russian elite circles
Russians generally don't appreciate people who know them for exactly who and what they are. Makes them uncomfortable. They prefer to be thought of as exotic foreigners rather than the people of a poor, corrupt country with little to no experience in democracy.
These dictators, miserable, unworthy, vile feudals, remnants of the previous epoch,
do not comprehend that they will be damned by the next generations and considered infamous in the world's history.
Glory to the heroes of 🇺🇦 and 🇬🇪 and to all free people of the world.
I wish Georgia all the best.
It was truly inspirational, Jonathan!
What a brave, intellectual, free Georgian woman Marika is!
I wish the Georgian people valour and resilience in their struggle for their dignity and freedom.
You will win because you deserve a better life. ❤🇬🇪 🇺🇦
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Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 and best to Georgia. 🇬🇪
Excellent guest! Keep strong Georgia!
Marika may just be that indiginous leader!
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-forever.”
V Putin
February 2022
All the best Marika .
My heart goes out to the Georgian people. Stay strong! 🇪🇺 🇩🇪 ♥🇬🇪
Great interview, cheers J. That seems to be a common tactic from these kind of dictators, slow incremental control and erosion of freedoms, like Putin as Marika says the damage is done slowly, bit by bit so there is no major event to cause large scale revolt. Like a Boa Constrictor. Imo the Georgian and Ukrainian people are heroic in their awareness and courage in opposing this strategy from day one, they know where it ends up, i know it is easy to say from the outside but if only the Russian ppl had had this disposition for the last 24 years.
So glad you are shining light on Georgia, which has been targeted by Putin for years like Ukraine. Now please give some attention to Kazakhstan.
Love this guest!
Thank you, look forward to understand foreign agent law, and candidacy for European Union.
The best guests and the best interviews.
A timely interview, excellent work.
Well done Marika… keep going, keep fighting.🫶🏻
Keep going, Marika, you will be a dynamic force in Georgias Democratic future! 👍
'I wish you and your generation good luck
54:24
in remaining free and in building an independent Georgia thank you so much' - hear! hear!
❤❤❤ Marika Mikiashvili❤️❤️❤️
This interview was so informative!!
All the best to Georgian people! You must win! Best wishes from🇨🇦
Thank you to both of you, keeping us the World informed 👌(educated), updated, and always interested.
Namaste 🙏 take care, stay strong safe and courageous... Georgia 'you got this'!!!
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🔱💙💛💙🪬
Bienvenida a la Unión Europea Georgia 🇬🇪🇪🇺🇮🇨
Thanks, Jonathan.
Stand tall, Georgian.
Stay strong, Georgia!
None of Russia's "relationships"or what Russia has to "offer" are based on "good will". Russia has never understood the concept of soft power or stewardship. Russia has never been a leader nor advocate for human rights and humanitarian aid...they have never been a leader nor advocate for ecological or environmental causes...in fact Russia doesn't have any causes to speak of. I've spent a great deal of time in Russia over the past 40 years and if there is one aspect of Russian "society" that find disturbing, is the complete lack of any kind of understanding or even interest in the concept of community both at home and abroad...in fact Russians view the concept of community, as naive and with a great deal suspicion. In many ways there is no "society" in Russia...it's more like 140+million people just existing on a shared land where you only look out for yourself...the concept of common courtesy doest not exist. It is hands down the most cynical nation of people I have come across. I don't see anything changing that mentality...and we need to understand this mentality in order to deal with it.
Thanks for this insightful comment. When I read many comments on this channel and others, many people do not seem to appreciate this paradigm of Russian society, and how this means it is unlikely that Russia will morph into a modern western democracy in the foreseeable future.
Completely agree, they doesn't have a coherent idea behind community of common people, despite the older generation coming out of and still nostalgically preferring "communism" and homo-sovieticus, former of which never actually came to be. There is no ideology, just a mix and match of mystical, mostly right/far-right and collectivist ideas, injected from top down in fascist fashion. They're officially pretenders of anything that suits the narrative, and to understand them you got to understand their mentality (chauvinist/supremacist/imperialist, but not cold) and political apathy and cynicism.
To get where they're going and why they hate "civil society", we should learn some of the ideas they have chosen from the past. A lot of them are repackaged by A. Dugin, and the very notion of civil society as an arch enemy are best expressed by Ilya Ilyin and the fascists who inspired him. Also some of the imperialist sentiments are expressed in some works of Pushkin, Dostoyevsky and other "giants". Besides their mythical, overhyped status, they were also propagandists for the old-school russian world, which Kremlin is rehashing and trying to ressurrect. Some of these have changed for the worst, but imo above all, Kremlin is subversively opportunist, even more than during USSR.
Completely agree, they doesn't have a coherent idea behind community of common people, despite the older generation coming out of and still nostalgically preferring "communism" and homo-sovieticus, former of which never actually came to be. There is no ideology, just a mix and match of mystical, mostly right/far-right and collectivist ideas, injected from top down in fascist fashion. They're officially pretenders of anything that suits the narrative, and to understand them you got to understand their mentality (chauvinist/supremacist/imperialist, but not cold) and political apathy and cynicism.
To get where they're going and why they hate "civil society", we should learn some of the ideas they have chosen from the past. A lot of them are repackaged by A. Dugin, and the very notion of civil society as an arch enemy are best expressed by Ilya Ilyin and the fascists who inspired him. Also some of the imperialist sentiments are expressed in some works of Pushkin, Dostoyevsky and other "giants". Besides their mythical, overhyped status, they were also propagandists for the old-school russian world, which Kremlin is rehashing and trying to ressurrect. Some of these have changed for the worst, but imo above all, Kremlin is subversively opportunist, even more than during USSR.
DItto on the comments regarding soft power. The concept of friendly co-operation among separate equals (or rivals) is completely foreign to them. This is how & why they think of NATO as another Soviet-style top-down empire instead of an alliance among relative equals (if not equivalents). They think "NATO is taking territory" when in fact those countries choose on their own to join NATO, then apply, then go through a process that can take years, then must get the approval of all existing members before being allowed in. If this "west vs east" thing was like a high school class officers election, Russia would be accusing the other team of stealing "their" votes when instead they should be working on their appeal to the voters.
In much of Russia, there is a solid wall of high fences facing the street, interrupted only by doors that allow entrance to private property. Otherwise everything is boarded up. Tells you a lot about their psychology.
It's amazing how a country that size can survive as a pseudo-civilization where trust is needed along with currency to conduct business.
Corruption will hollow it out and it will eventually collapse.
Marika is very impressive. Thank you Jonathon
How have these cronies held on to power since 2012..? They must have been re-elected?
This young woman is very articulate and well informed. I hope she can avoid any negative repucussions from giving this interview.
The world needs more such young people.
A young democracy in action!!’
Excellent guest.
I’ve not heard Saakashvili’s name in the last few interviews. I was living in Georgia at the time of the previous Presidential election. Feels like a very important piece of context to people learning about recent Georgian political history
Thanks!
Excellent. Well done for letting her speak.
I didn't realize that Georgia has a direct border with the EU over the sea, and how such direct trade would cut off Russia. Thanks, very enlightening interview! Ukraine is keeping Russia busy, so this really is a unique window of opportunity.I think more of the demise of Hong Kong and its security law and its total political and economic implosion than of Belarus, which was already too far gone.
The problem is that members of parliament are not acting as a cohesive opposition, and often disagree among themselves. They argue and bicker, and really need to see where their commonality lies, and look at areas where the agree, not disagree. They seem content to have a job, not work for the common good and create an effective opposition to what is already there. The government has its stooges, created over 12 years, and this will be hard to halt, as nepotism is endemic, and run along the lines of Russia itself, this being a mirror image of the politics of that state. Ivanishvili and the whole government have got away with things for so long, I wonder why neither the USA or EU have not planned any actions, but as usual, they dally and dither until the occasion of action has passed. I hope Georgia will be on the path to the EU, but as usual, too many windbags on high salaries will pontificate, and leave poor Georgia choking in the dust. It remains to be seen what they will do for once, sadly, Georgia has been let down again and again, as other countries are too timid when approaching Russia, when they are in fact just a paper tiger.....
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Thank you, Jonathan, for letting Marika Mikiashvili explain the background and continuation of Georgia's freedom fight. All the best to Georgians - I wish you will stay victorious and join the EU soon.
🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
"[moving quickly and not incrementally in the advancement of authoritarian laws is] *Uncharacteristic of him* ..." --- indicates that he is under pressure.
Maybe because Russia is under pressure.
People like this are the backbone of the human world. Stay strong Georgia
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Wow Johnathon, you have to struggle to get a word in in this interview, yet it was an important topic right now, thank you!
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It sounds like the society is ready to move forward and the Dream isn’t. I hope the people win, it’s a democracy.. I hope
Fascinating interview on a subject I knew very little about.
Great interview, very impressive woman.
Excellent interview! And I sincerely hope that Georgia can get moving before V. Putin decides to move his "empire building at gunpoint" operation to areas that are more difficult for the west to help.
An insightful but still positive woman regarding the development of a lovely, interresting and beatiful country..
Fantastic analysis ...It fills me with so much hope that Georgian society can resist the Russian threat to their Democracy !
good show by the young ,smart and well spoken woman ,,,from ecosse...
Glory to Georgia
Oh poor naive soul. Around 48:00 she says if the military had to choose sides, they would side with the demonstrators. I fear that she is completely mistaken. I watched in horror when demonstrations were ended by police and military force in Belarus in 2000. I hoped freedom would prevail, but it did not. I fear the same is ahead for Georgia. That said, wishing all the best to Georgians.
you mean 2020? i was there until forced to leave or face arrest...Putin was not about to allow a Belarusian version of what happened on the Maidan in Kyiv in 2014...he helped Lukashenko brutally crush it. Putin and his mob Kremlin elite are terrified of a colour revolution in their own country. A free democratic west leaning Ukraine is the real existential threat to Putin not NATO. NATO has never been a threat to Russian security but has been and is a threat to Russian revanchism
Maybe. However , 2000 was quite different from 2024…
You underestimate Georgians, even the military and police are not as russified and conformist as in Belarus. Idk the inside mood in institutions, certainly there are loyalists, Kremlin's agents and sympathisers in branches of hard power, but there are also Georgians with national conscience and reason. Also the president is on peoples' side. They're the most reasonable and smart people in Caucasus and probably all Russia's neighbors east of Ukraine, just from my personal expariences. They're smart enough not to end up like Belarus, hopefully neither as Ukraine (not so sure about the latter). This is their Maidan, and note one important thing which she mentioned as common driver for the mood of majority: intuition.
Belarus is not Georgia.
@@yurilytviak9066 2020-2021
Thanks Jonathan 😁. Don't ru🎉into decisions. Rats roles are changing at the moment. To unpredictable to know where it's going. Keep safe guys 👍
I think I will watch it a third time.
Hopefully Georgia will see a change in government, for the better, in the elections in October.
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It's all of a piece. So obviously that it almost feels like some sort of cosmic affront.
why do you have protests against a law which aims at financial transparencies of the foreign fundings? Similar laws were enacted in all major countries of Asia, Europe, USA and Africa. India has adopted this foreign aid transparency related law in 1976. Indian foreign funded NGOs are audited annually by the government auditors. Why do the Georgian NGOs want that their foreign fundings and their sources should not be reported, and the Government should not bring them under a registration process? Are they against financial transparency?
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How do we fight it?
I haven't heard anything about the possible rise of an indiginous leader
Don't cede to Western pressure; but doing so to Russian or Chinese pressure is JUST fine!!
S/???
Yes. Sarcasm.
America's bright ideas again. Started this foreign agent law. Then Russia. Now Georgia
wtf are you talking about,...do expand on your point if you actually have one
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Where do u think they got it from? It's a old American law from the 1930's
@@Tbone1492 In other words you don't have a point.
Thanks!