EVERY PART IS GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blind reaction to EPIC: The Musical - Full Speed Ahead
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"They haven't said his name yet"... The crew literally announced the names of each character as they spoke. Nonetheless, loved the reaction. P.S. It's cute you think the infant survived
I like the idea that it's ambiguous until a certain moment in the underworld saga where there's a callback. With animatics things are clearer but w/ music alone I think it being somewhat up to interpretation adds to the drama of monster.
Well Jorge has confirmed what happened. Soooo not really up for interpretation.
@@katelynch6174it rlly isnt 😭 idk what part of the crew literally screaming their name is ambiguous, maybe if u missed it and/or didnt see the lyrics
@@jademuseplays each character... except the main one
@@ian3523 i think they meant the baby's fate is ambiguous, not character names. unless i missed where the characters were definitive in the song.
also, my sweet innocent friends, you believe what you want and you hold onto that
he also does gag music like "I'm a monster raw rawr rawr" and "FROG ON THE WINDOW"
Or the most recent
Peremides: I will Yeet the baby!
Little froggy on the window...
How did you get here...
Jorge studied medicine at Notre Dame University before switching entirely to music studies. He actually wrote a musical about it called "My Heart Says Go," which is criminally underrated and overshadowed, and I can not recommend it enough! If you want to check out more of Jay's music in the future, that would be an awesome place to start.
I love My Heart Says Go!
Jorge also goes by Jay or Mr. Jalapeño if those are easier to remember. He is the creator of Epic and voice of Odysseus. Armando Julián voices Eurylochus (the guy who tells Odysseus about their food problem). Eurylochus is also Odysseus' brother in law. Steven Dookie voices Polites (the one who pointedout the island with light to Odysseus) and is Odysseus' best friend :]
Its super cool. Some people he knew, but he did most auditions through TikTok. Its like he was restricted due to covid but it turned out to be a HUGE breakthrough for Epic.
13:29 Eurylochous thinks practically not bloodthirsty. His thought was more so “If they really are dangerous then let’s not give them a chance to strike.”
watching with animatics is even more epic you should make sure to rewatch all with them
Some people Jorge knew and some he didn’t. He just is incredibly good at mixing the voices, directing the voice actors and of course very good at singing himself as Odysseus. He just finds the absolute perfect people to play the characters.
EPIC was composed in parts thanks to TikTok. A lot of the cast were casted through TikTok auditions, but of course there's also some space for Jorge's friends and family in the cast, as well as some headhunting done by Jorge himself.
Jorge is the main man behind it, composing and writing the songs, as well as singing for the lead character, Odysseus. He's the head of this entire thing, and he's doing an excellent job.
If you're wondering about the rereleases of the two first sagas, those are because of a rights issue, not because of a change in vision. Those sagas were released through a production company, but Jorge and the rest of the cast have not recieved any of the royalties they are owed for that music. I don't know if they're fighting a legal battle for them, but Jorge has now rereleased those two sagas by himself, which is the version you're listening to now. Jorge and the cast recieve royalties for the new releases, as they should. I think it's important to push that there's been no ask from him to not listen to the old releases, so if you want to go watch some of the animatics that use the old sound, you are not discouraged to do so.
3:14 I'm pretty sure it's not a spoiler to tell you that Oddy did in fact merc the child. There were animated bits throughout the livestream that are canon to how things are meant to be portrayed, and he is seen dropping the infant from a wall at the end of 'Just a Man'
8:12 ah yes, I love George EPIC
15:41 Can't wait for you guys to see more of Mr. The Oddysey, Politics, and Yuri Yowenthal
Helpful tip for remembering the names. Odysseus is obvious so skip.
Eurylochus is like “you really cuss” and is our practical man who’s had it with these [spoilers]
Polites is our sweet boy and is the most polite.
Hope that helps!
Epic fandom... Jesus, they can piece things together themselves, let them go on their own journey like you all did. Yeah its a bit harder without the animatics but the major plot points are all pretty explicit eventually. May i also remind you that untill the Underworld saga, the infant's fate was also not entirely clear...
Well, the infants death would likely be clear in the show which means that being informed helps them experience it closer to the intended experience. But otherwise it's just excited fans who need to start adding spoiler tags and such.
@@aniheartsong5102 I could see that. My own head canon was that the scene would just end on a lights out right before the drop to leave the audience hanging. I personally think it makes the bridge in Monster hit harder if that's the confirmation for people. Maybe I'm a bit biased tho.
Jorge also confirmed it long before the underworld saga came out. It does help the experience and understanding of Odysseus way more. I feel like it’s almost confirmed in the next song as there is a line about so much guilt inside your heart, referring to Odysseus.
You’re so right. In every new reaction video, there are thousands of comments that are like:
“Ok, you’ve just started this new musical and seem to like it. Now here’s all the extra information that it’s so long and so much you won’t even remember it all”. The information of Jorge being the singer and creator and different instruments for characters are nice but I don’t think reactors need *that much* in the first video.
Also if I’m not remembering badly Jorge did say that the fate of the infant was left ambiguous in Just a Man (though when I was listening to Epic for the first time I went through the first act *assuming* he did kill the baby, but oh well)
It’s better to know he killed the baby because it’s a major factor to Oddyseus’ character in the next sagas and why he ends up in so much trouble later on. The final line “I’m just a man” and him saying “forgive me” is explicitly towards the baby as he drops him off the city walls just like he does in the myth and it was confirmed by Jorge that is the intended ending with the song ending with him clearly dropping the kid.
Better Epic scholars will probably have more detailed answers, but Jorge picked his cast everywhere, from people he went to school with to TikTok auditions.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed Full Speed Ahead, it often doesn't get as much enthusiasm as the previous two, possibly because of the lack of infanticide-related drama.
Unfortunately he dropped the baby
@@beckenfuggle644 the cut song of "yeet the baby" xD
@@damiennightmaresx7950Ah, my man Perimedes
@@damiennightmaresx7950 so funny. Can definitely see why he cut it but it's a banger nonetheless.
@@beckenfuggle644 so many fun songs that'll never see full production which btw whats after thunder saga? does ody die at somepoint to warrent god games?
Oh. This is going to be a long journey and I'm here for it.
I recommend tissues
Yeah. They're only on song 3. There are 25 currently released and will be 40 when finished. The more along the ride, the better 😊
You could almost say it'll be an _Odyssey._
@@Macabrellian… *sighs*
@@Macabrellian🤣🤣🤣
@@blossom6792 *_[Finger Guns]_*
The two singing in this song, Eurylocus (Armondo Julián) and Polites (Steven Dookie) both personally know Jorge and will record all their lines with him in person, however they met him differently. Armondo I believe already knew Jorge through their days at the University of Notre Dame, while Jorge was conceptualizing this and actively writing his other CRIMINALLY underrated musical called _My Heart Says Go_ . Steven Dookie met Jorge through Tik Tok where Jorge continually posts little snippets and BTS of his work on Epic. Later sagas included a few guest singers who I *think* aren't always able to record with him physically. There's an archived live stream on Jorge's RUclips from when the very first saga ever dropped, and in it Jorge and Steven talk about the comedically adorable way that Steven met jorge and got cast as Polites. Loved the video, I look forward to more Epic reactions from you guys (pun intended).
Ooh also, Armando and Jorge met in Puerto Rico when they were both auditioning for Hamilton! Jorge mentioned that on his Patreon!
@@MildlyPerturbed That is really cool.
It’s gonna take you two so many weeks to react to everything if you react to one song a week 😭 I just want to see all the reactions now
Some are people he knew beforehand, but some of them were strangers he found through social media either through their auditions or he contacted them personally after seeing their work. Location and distance doesnt really matter to Jorge when it comes to casting!
Also, these are still the same people from the first recording! There are some differences in the mixing and vocal performances, of course. The reason that they had to re-do the first two Sagas is because the company they were working with werent paying them. These new versions (and Sagas 3- onwards) are now produced and published under Jorge's own name! Kinda like (Taylor's version)
The wonderful harmonies at 14.40ish to full speed a head was a lucky accident. Jorge said when he would try a line with odysseus for the harmony above he would mute everything else and listen to the harmony and normal line. He recorded a few different harmony lines and instead of turning everything off except the melody and one harmony. He turned on just all the harmony lines he had done and they went so well that he kept them in. I love the fact that he lets gis fans know little insites into his world.
When you have caught up on all the sagas, please listen to Stevens interview.
This musical is sung threw like Le Mis and Hamilton
Aww so sweet and innocent. Definitely no babies where dropped lol or an I a monster.☠️👶
Fun fact I believe Jorge (Odysseus) and Armando (Eurylochus/Second in command guy) meet on a casting for Hamilton so yeah if you get Hamilton vibes that’s probably why.
If you’ll make us wait a week each time I beg u at least give us full or 1/2 saga installments lol
That would be SO NICE! I would especially hope they check out Polyphemus and Survive back to back.
You guys should really react to the animatics that go with the songs. You get so much more context of what's happening throughout the whole thing and they can make some parts less confusing compared to just listening to the audio tracks! So much love has gone into the making of the animatics, too. This fandom is incredibly talented and dedicated to their craft!
As someone else said a long time ago, that baby is deader than Adam
All the singers are the same from the Original recordings. Jorge just re-recorded the first two sagas as he wasn’t getting royalties from the first two sagas. The production company he was a part of (Blair Russell Productions) basically wanted all exclusive rights to his music, and he didn’t earn a penny from them even though the originals had over 200 million streams. There was also a lawsuit back in November that got dropped in January.
He basically had to create his own production company, and build a recording booth in his room. He’s been releasing his albums through his own production company (Winion Entertainment LLC) since then.
Jorge keeps us pretty updated on all the behind-the-scenes and writing process. It’s really interesting.
Cant wait til they get to the Underworld. Lmao
You don't get an official answer for the baby question until the end of Act I
I mean... that's when the words are spoken in the soundtrack, but if there ever was a stage version, they would definitely know what happened from the end of Just a man
@@randomwriter9570 yeah, that baby dead af
@@randomwriter9570 Couldn't they simply shut the lights as he holds the baby? That way the section ends, the setup for this song begins, and we are left to wonder what happened
@stephenberry4978 jorge has said he wants the hands to start separating, and right before the baby starts to fall, lights cut out
You need to know the baby died at the end of “Just a Man” or else later events in later saga’s before it’s “revealed” don’t really make much sense.
Full speed ahead!!! I love this song so much ❤
Jorge is constantly updating us on his process on his RUclips and TikTok accounts! You should check it out once you’re done reacting to the sagas! He’s an absolute delight and dork (affectionate)!
You should also check out his underrated completed musical called “My Heart Says Go!” He doesn’t sing in the official studio recording, but there’s demos of him singing online. The musical is based on his own experience of changing from Pre-Med to Theatre, and how his father reacted to it.
He did unalived the infant sadly, he dropped it off a wall.
The new version of the fifth song actually does have an animatic out at the moment by TacoDraws, so maybe by the time you get to the next saga you’ll have some good visuals as well!
Another hand touches the beacon! I hope you do more Epic!!
Gung-ho 2nd in command - Eurylocus (you-really-cuss)
Optimistic cinnamon roll - Polites (polly-tease)
Composer and voice of Odysseus - Jorge (hoar-hey) or simply Jay
2:59 when he sang "forgive me" not only did he murk the child, he yeeted the child off the balcony.
Check out the animatics 100%. The songs are incredible as their own, but the fan videos help push the emotions forward even further (if you can believe that). Just make sure the ones you watch are completely finished. There’s two, I believe, in the Circe saga that weren’t, and some people didn’t know that when they pulled the videos up.
This song is absolutely phenomenal! I really love how grand and (yeah I'm trying so hard not to be cliché) epic this song and all the others feel. This would be an amazing musical but it feels like it would have to be huge or done with shadows like Miss Saigon...lol
Thank you to Panda for the insights on this one and thank you DJ for reacting...this is so cool watching the two of you discuss different aspects #HerdLove
Oh Wow! Thank you!
There is a song that was cut from the musical called Your Light. I do recommend you hear that next, before or immediately after the next one. It was annimated.
It does explain the dinamic among Odisseus and his men a little
It does help if you are already familiar with the story. But the child is referenced in later lyrics. Odysseus is supposed to have thrown the child from the wall of the city. His humanity is already slipping away as explored in "Just a Man" when he poses the question, "When does a man become a monster?"
In this song we have Odysseus (the leader), Polites (the optimist), Eurylochus (the pragmatist) arguing over how to survive.
lots of ppl insisting you watch animatics, it's really fine if you don't. They're all really good and made by very talented people but they're like, separate media. You already find so much to talk about with just the songs and you seem to be understanding the story just fine. You may end up getting bogged down into one artist's interpretation and get confused when it doesn't pan out that way in different animatics, or even worse; some are just straight up spoilers. (ranging from a teaser of the next song to explicitly drawing what a vague prophecy is saying long before you're supposed to understand it.)
If you choose not to use them for this series I'd still recommend checking a bunch out at a later time since they really are so so good though!
I get why of course your watching the soundtracks directly from Jorge but I do also recommend watching the animatics too be it in reactions or afterwards cuz it just adds so much being able to see the actions, even with the different minor interpretations by different artists I think it just hits so good.
Regardless these have been great :)
I personally believe Urilicus is the true antagonist of the crews journey. Pay attention to every impulse he has and action he takes.
Eurylochus of Same (Ody's second in command) being the antagonist of the story is a fun take, considering he's Odysseus' brother-in-law (he was married to Ctimene, Odysseus' kid sister - a fact not brought up in the Musical). Then again, sounds like family drama right there!
I would recommend looking up animatics after each arc is finished that way you could get the complete story.
I can't wait to see your reaction to Open Arms and later Survive and the Underworld
Hmm i feel like for this format it wouldn't hurt to be a lil bit more informed about names of the performers in each song. I know u guys want engagement thats why you say to just comment it, but if you will be sitting down recording the album in one go, it would be better to just pull up the artist list cause it could get pretty annoying if you stay oblivious for the whole album reaction. I think it's only respectful to acknowledge the artist names in full. Dont worry about engagement, this fandom will info dump you regardless.
We will definitely take that on board for the next saga :) it's actually not about the engagement. it's more a reactor habit of avoiding the video description before the reaction to avoid any spoilers but it seems like epic is mostly safe on that side.
@@dj_410 Ahhh I see, I understand. The description for the tracklist should be safe, but if you're gonna start reacting to animatics blind after the Troy saga I'm not too sure about their video descriptions o:
He dropped the baby
You could just let them wait to figure it out themselves... It's pretty explicit eventually.
@@bradleyhall4315 Perhaps. But it's also implicit in the song. They thought Odysseus was apologizing to the gods, but he was apologizing to the baby. The song is sung too Astyanax.
@@skyephoenix801 my understanding is the official animatic for horse&the infant is canon, which does not show the baby being dropped. From that there was a lot of debate in the community about whether Jay was going to change the infant's fate or not.
Edit: personally I'm with you, the lyrics do imply he is going through with it, just playing devil's advocate that it was not 100% for a large chunk of the community till Monster.
@@bradleyhall4315 I'm guessing you mean Just a man.
I don't know enough of the past because I was introduced to EPIC via Anniflamme's Monster trailer showing up in my feed when I was doom-scrolling. (And I happily fell down the rabbit hole 🥰). So take this with a grain of salt.
From what I've heard, older animatics don't show it because the animators weren't certain. But newer ones do. As for "official" animatic's, I can't speak to past streams, but in the latest (the release of Thunder Saga), Maybemacdc was used for that moment and the drop occurred.
When Jorge was holding auditions, he said anyone from around the world could audition on TikTok.
Australia represent!
Dude, you look like you'd review a brand of various adhesive tools in the thumbnail 😂😅
Ngl This is my least favorite song in the saga BUT it is essential and i still love it. Love your reactions guys. Cant wait for the cyclopes saga.
Aw really, it’s one of my favourites!
I recommend you do animatics so you get the full experience or at the very least turn on captions
He end that bebes
And….. you are wrong he very much killed the child….