@@GuyWithACamera23 is that not partially the point? They’re double glazing salesmen wannabe yuppies in the 80s, they’re meant to be sleazy and a bit disgusting.
@@GuyWithACamera23 I'd be more interesting to see it looked at compared to the Inbetweeners in the view of it being Beesley solo and the absence of Morris [like the movie 'The Festival Morris directed but Beesley wasn't involved in] and the 80's setting [which was the original setting of Inbetweeners in the pilot stage before it was made contemporary for the series]. It was also a BBC project as was 'First team'.
@@GuyWithACamera23 Never seen anyone react to it like that. Each to their own, of course, but I thought it was absolutely brilliant. Perfect cast, superbly written, great soundtrack.
The writers of The Thick of it managed to never mention the name of "the party". Maybe that's why the writers of The First Team thought they could get away with it.
It's clear to viewers who "the party" are though. I haven't seen The First Team but it doesn't sound like they're supposed to be Man United, you just don't use the name.
@@mankytoes Seems more like Arsenal, the fan TV, the foreign manager nicknamed "The Gent" (Wenger was "The Professor", the assistant manager's wife pegging a player
I'm a huge Inbetweeners fan and I have literally never even heard of this - not the premise, not the title, nothing. I'll trust you that I haven't missed much.
You missed the genre-defining scene in which everybody's favourite comedy character "Petey Brooks" talks about his long foreskin. That's 10 years of "research" down the drain.
Completely agree, I don't know why they didn't just make up a team name, its such a strange decision, who would really care that much if they'd just made up a name?
6:54-7:13 Tamla Kari reteamed with Beesley and Morris here after showing up in both Inbetweeners films as the same character, Lucy, despite having two different personalities [nice girl who likes Simon in 1, toxic controlling girlfriend who makes Simon's life a misery in 2]. She also appeared in the first series of the Greg Davis vehicle Cuckoo as his daughter but was recast with Esther Smith for the remaining 4 series.
She's also in the first series of The Job Lot, which is a really underrated comedy set in a job centre. Which, incidentally, would make a perfect focus for a Once-Over video.
I actually enjoyed when it came out but I honestly think it’s mainly down to my self chasing a sort insight on what happens at a professional football team
2:52 The first rule of Football Club Speaking of Iain Morris football related projects, has anyone here heard of an upcoming film called 'Next Goal Wins'? Not a fan of football or sports movies in general tbh but was hyped for it since it was directed by Taika Waititi who co-wrote the script with Morris. It's meant to release this year but haven't heard anything about it since like 2020.
It was completed before Covid hit but they did some reshoots last year to take Armie Hammer's small role out [after off screen controversies] and got Will Arnett from First Team to replace him. Potentially could be out this year after Waititi's next Thor movie but that's not confirmed yet.
Choose a non league team or even put them as a park team in tier 10 and go from there. Adds to the build if it works as the dynamic that matters least here as it's done is the football
As you mentioned, Ted Lasso came out at a very similar time, and I don't know how the American-produced English football comedy ended up being much, much better than the one that the Inbetweeners creators wrote. Also - I think two of the 6 episodes end up with dog shit being the actual punchline to the episode. 20-30 mins of 'comedy' where the final joke is just 'there is dog poo on the screen'. Not sure how that happened
I swear to god I just checked your channel to see if there was a new video I missed , but no so I decided to rewatch you peep show extras videos and seconds into the video I see a RUclips notification telling me that you uploaded seconds ago. Mental.
Good review. I think the difficulty portraying footballers playing football convincingly on screen has always been a major problem for fictional football shows and films, and the reason they are generally not that good. The 30 minute stand alone comedy Golden Gordon by Michael Palin and Terry Jones as part of their Ripping Yarns series in the 1970s is the only example I can think of a truly brilliant football based comedy. Although like Andrew I’ve not seen Ted Lasso so that could be amazing and for I know the Holy Grail of football shows. The makers of TFT thought they could get around this by setting the story lines behind the scenes and focusing on younger players with less money and more vulnerability but it didn’t really work. I thought Neil Fitzmaurice as Jack’s dad got some good lines and Phil Wang was quite funny but when you’re supporting characters are the highlights that’s not good.
I think the biggest problem is that football jokes tend to be fairly niche to fans, so a sitcom has to be really broad in its' humour. That was the biggest issue with the Mike Basset Manager tv series (unlike the film which was great), it got very cartoonish. The other main problem is that actors are usually awful footballers. Bend it Like Beckham is a decent film in some ways but the football scenes are embarrassing. On the other hand, footballers are usually awful actors, see Escape to Victory. So I understand why they didn't want to show actual football.
@@mankytoes That’s very true. The publics attitudes to football range from positive to indifferent to outright hostile, so football jokes have a limited audience.
Andrew , you should do a once over for the film pirates , it’s about a group of lads who wanna celebrate New Years 1999 and have to do loads of stuff on the way if that makes sense ? I wanna know ur opinions on it cuz I’m not sure what to think of it.
Watch The League of Gentlemen (SERIES order) Series 1 Series 2 Christmas special Series 3 Anniversary Specials or my order Radio series Series 1 Series 2 Christmas special Live at Dury Lane (live) Series 3 The league of gentlemen are behind you (live) The league of gentlemens apocalypse (the movie) Series 4 (anniversary specials
This Sporting Life managed to never name the city it's set in or the pro rugby club which Richard Harris plays for for the entire film. Then again, modern premier league football is much, much higher profile than 1960s rugby league, and modern culture probably doesn't allow for awkward lines like 'our city rugby team' in casual conversation...
@@tameshrew469 Very true, i think Andrew described it best ‘Ikea showroom sets’. Early 2000s shows like Peep show, Extras filmed on shitey old cameras have a great vibe to them
Dream team was the best football show around. They had an actuall ex pro who gave advice on how to make it look realistic. They incorporated actual footage and then cut to the actors and they got the name and even merchandise was sold due it's popularity
think the mistake with these sort of shows is 'premier league' club, should go for a lower ranked club, maybe even a semi-professional club as its fit the budget better and I'm sure there's plenty of absurdity at the lower levels...
Problem with football comedies is that reality is funnier. No football sitcom could've come up with funnier scenarios than Samir Nasri's Drip Doctors scandal, the Wagatha Christie Trial or Liecester's Racist Orgy that kickstarted a chain of events that led to them winning the Premier League.
Loved how they kept killing characters off in that show despite it being a football club, thus giving them an incredibly easy way of writing characters off.
Do you think you'll be covering another shite British film anytime soon? Or perhaps another shite sitcom? I do think you've got a knack for that kinda thing (that's a compliment, I swear)
Hey Andrew, have a look at Green Street if you've not seen it, it's Elijah Woods for some reason coming to London and getting caught up in the football scene. It's violent, and shite, but worth a look as it's better than this pish anyway.
I remember watching this when it came out during lockdown cause I love footy and inbetweeners, seemed like the perfect combo. As of the start of this video, I've completely forgotten the entire series. Boring and bad.
I don't think there's a single subject matter that's produced more poorly executed comedy/dramas than football. I think it stems from the fact that if you played organised football at any level you will have experienced all the camaraderie, comedy, joy, despair, turmoil etc that you get from it first hand, and therefore attempts to fictionalise it will never be as evocative. And if you're not interested in football then you're unlikely to be interested in a show about football.
I know this comments section gets in a tizzy when anything like this is mentioned, but really, white British writers need to try harder when it comes to their token minorities. Once you notice how many Black men characters on British TV are basically playboys or himbos and get stories about organised crime, it's obvious some producers only ever include "a BAME" because it's filling their quota. The worst bit? If they took the quota away, it would just mean fewer jobs for Black dudes, not better roles. A lot of the folks in charge of hiring wouldn't glance at actor that didn't pass the paper bag test if they weren't forced to.
Gerard from Peep Show would have adored this series, had he lived. Finally, an in-depth look behind the scenes at his beloved Red Team.
Damon Beesley's solo post Inbetweener's project 'White Gold' might be worth a look as it also involves Joe Thomas and James Buckley.
God please no. It's the most disgusting, abhorrent "comedy" with disgusting, abhorrent characters.
@@GuyWithACamera23 is that not partially the point? They’re double glazing salesmen wannabe yuppies in the 80s, they’re meant to be sleazy and a bit disgusting.
@@GuyWithACamera23 I'd be more interesting to see it looked at compared to the Inbetweeners in the view of it being Beesley solo and the absence of Morris [like the movie 'The Festival Morris directed but Beesley wasn't involved in] and the 80's setting [which was the original setting of Inbetweeners in the pilot stage before it was made contemporary for the series]. It was also a BBC project as was 'First team'.
@@GuyWithACamera23 Never seen anyone react to it like that. Each to their own, of course, but I thought it was absolutely brilliant. Perfect cast, superbly written, great soundtrack.
The writers of The Thick of it managed to never mention the name of "the party". Maybe that's why the writers of The First Team thought they could get away with it.
Man it is really random the youtubers I see in Andrews comment section.
Same with Yes Minister although party politics are less relevant there
@@itsthatsebguy93 game recognise game, I suppose
It's clear to viewers who "the party" are though. I haven't seen The First Team but it doesn't sound like they're supposed to be Man United, you just don't use the name.
@@mankytoes Seems more like Arsenal, the fan TV, the foreign manager nicknamed "The Gent" (Wenger was "The Professor", the assistant manager's wife pegging a player
don't know if anyone noticed that inbetweeners reference in the twitter scene with the name cartjay69, a roundabout way to say jay cartwright
I'm a huge Inbetweeners fan and I have literally never even heard of this - not the premise, not the title, nothing. I'll trust you that I haven't missed much.
You missed the genre-defining scene in which everybody's favourite comedy character "Petey Brooks" talks about his long foreskin. That's 10 years of "research" down the drain.
Completely agree, I don't know why they didn't just make up a team name, its such a strange decision, who would really care that much if they'd just made up a name?
6:54-7:13 Tamla Kari reteamed with Beesley and Morris here after showing up in both Inbetweeners films as the same character, Lucy, despite having two different personalities [nice girl who likes Simon in 1, toxic controlling girlfriend who makes Simon's life a misery in 2].
She also appeared in the first series of the Greg Davis vehicle Cuckoo as his daughter but was recast with Esther Smith for the remaining 4 series.
She's also in the first series of The Job Lot, which is a really underrated comedy set in a job centre. Which, incidentally, would make a perfect focus for a Once-Over video.
Would love to see your take on The Thick Of It, it's my favourite ever show
I actually enjoyed when it came out but I honestly think it’s mainly down to my self chasing a sort insight on what happens at a professional football team
You should definitely do a once-over on "white gold"
2:52 The first rule of Football Club
Speaking of Iain Morris football related projects, has anyone here heard of an upcoming film called 'Next Goal Wins'? Not a fan of football or sports movies in general tbh but was hyped for it since it was directed by Taika Waititi who co-wrote the script with Morris. It's meant to release this year but haven't heard anything about it since like 2020.
It was completed before Covid hit but they did some reshoots last year to take Armie Hammer's small role out [after off screen controversies] and got Will Arnett from First Team to replace him. Potentially could be out this year after Waititi's next Thor movie but that's not confirmed yet.
@@jamesatkinsonja Thanks for the info!
I'd reccomend watching the earlier documentary it was based off of the same name, fantastic film that.
Choose a non league team or even put them as a park team in tier 10 and go from there. Adds to the build if it works as the dynamic that matters least here as it's done is the football
Please do Derry Girls, Drifters, Fresh Meat, Friday Night Dinner, Green Wing, The IT Crowd, Man Down & Toast of London.
Would love a Once-Over on The Outlaws as a comparison of Merchant’s post office to Gervais’ as the 2nd and maybe last series has come out
I will certainly cover it at some point!
As you mentioned, Ted Lasso came out at a very similar time, and I don't know how the American-produced English football comedy ended up being much, much better than the one that the Inbetweeners creators wrote.
Also - I think two of the 6 episodes end up with dog shit being the actual punchline to the episode. 20-30 mins of 'comedy' where the final joke is just 'there is dog poo on the screen'. Not sure how that happened
I swear to god I just checked your channel to see if there was a new video I missed , but no so I decided to rewatch you peep show extras videos and seconds into the video I see a RUclips notification telling me that you uploaded seconds ago. Mental.
total crazy.
I think of new Andrew videos as a form of energy... And a lot of them have flowed to me
Chris Geere! You're the Worst is an all-time classic sitcom
I feel like I was the only one that watched this
Am I the only one who actually really enjoyed this show. 😂
I'd love to hear your thoughts on The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret
Good review. I think the difficulty portraying footballers playing football convincingly on screen has always been a major problem for fictional football shows and films, and the reason they are generally not that good. The 30 minute stand alone comedy Golden Gordon by Michael Palin and Terry Jones as part of their Ripping Yarns series in the 1970s is the only example I can think of a truly brilliant football based comedy. Although like Andrew I’ve not seen Ted Lasso so that could be amazing and for I know the Holy Grail of football shows. The makers of TFT thought they could get around this by setting the story lines behind the scenes and focusing on younger players with less money and more vulnerability but it didn’t really work. I thought Neil Fitzmaurice as Jack’s dad got some good lines and Phil Wang was quite funny but when you’re supporting characters are the highlights that’s not good.
I think the biggest problem is that football jokes tend to be fairly niche to fans, so a sitcom has to be really broad in its' humour. That was the biggest issue with the Mike Basset Manager tv series (unlike the film which was great), it got very cartoonish.
The other main problem is that actors are usually awful footballers. Bend it Like Beckham is a decent film in some ways but the football scenes are embarrassing. On the other hand, footballers are usually awful actors, see Escape to Victory. So I understand why they didn't want to show actual football.
@@mankytoes That’s very true. The publics attitudes to football range from positive to indifferent to outright hostile, so football jokes have a limited audience.
The football scenes in the Porridge film are pretty shoddy but as the match is just a front for the wider scam it's not too noticeable.
Really enjoying these videos Andrew, keep up the good work.
Thanks James
Jeff!?
Andrew , you should do a once over for the film pirates , it’s about a group of lads who wanna celebrate New Years 1999 and have to do loads of stuff on the way if that makes sense ? I wanna know ur opinions on it cuz I’m not sure what to think of it.
Watch The League of Gentlemen (SERIES order)
Series 1
Series 2
Christmas special
Series 3
Anniversary Specials
or my order
Radio series
Series 1
Series 2
Christmas special
Live at Dury Lane (live)
Series 3
The league of gentlemen are behind you (live)
The league of gentlemens apocalypse (the movie)
Series 4 (anniversary specials
I enjoyed it and so did most of my mates. Very like Inbetweeners
I’ve never even seen this show advertised, what was it on? Channel 4? Netflix?
BBC - I looked that up just after seeing this had been posted. I'd not heard of it.
Uploaded directly to the bottom of the algorithm
This Sporting Life managed to never name the city it's set in or the pro rugby club which Richard Harris plays for for the entire film.
Then again, modern premier league football is much, much higher profile than 1960s rugby league, and modern culture probably doesn't allow for awkward lines like 'our city rugby team' in casual conversation...
I'd suggest Inside No.9, but that's an anthology that needs a review for each ep.
ruclips.net/user/WeeLin covers that show better than I'd ever be able to
Could you give The Outlaws with Steven Merchant & Christopher Walken, series 2 just came out
Fancy giving our series 'Road to F.A. Cup' the once over? 😁
Why do sets in modern tv shows always look like porn sets, like completely clean, not lived in at all
true one of my biggest gripes with modern tv. plus the high definition and amazing lighting everywhere. I prefered tv when it looked shit to be honest
Paranoid about Ofcom seeing a brand logo
@@tameshrew469 Very true, i think Andrew described it best ‘Ikea showroom sets’. Early 2000s shows like Peep show, Extras filmed on shitey old cameras have a great vibe to them
I have noticed that, it's realy bizarre.
Omg I watched this at the time it came out and completely forgot it even existed. Christ what a letdown that was
Have you seen White Gold?
Well, it's no Renford Rejects.
Now that was a show
Dream team was the best football show around. They had an actuall ex pro who gave advice on how to make it look realistic. They incorporated actual footage and then cut to the actors and they got the name and even merchandise was sold due it's popularity
Disagree. Really enjoyed this series.. very easy to sit down and watch and was pretty funny at times 🤷♂️
think the mistake with these sort of shows is 'premier league' club, should go for a lower ranked club, maybe even a semi-professional club as its fit the budget better and I'm sure there's plenty of absurdity at the lower levels...
Andrew???!!!
Problem with football comedies is that reality is funnier. No football sitcom could've come up with funnier scenarios than Samir Nasri's Drip Doctors scandal, the Wagatha Christie Trial or Liecester's Racist Orgy that kickstarted a chain of events that led to them winning the Premier League.
A reddit comment put it best: Dream Team was funnier and that was drama.
That was a show. I mean it was great.
Loved how they kept killing characters off in that show despite it being a football club, thus giving them an incredibly easy way of writing characters off.
Do you think you'll be covering another shite British film anytime soon? Or perhaps another shite sitcom? I do think you've got a knack for that kinda thing (that's a compliment, I swear)
Some of them have been good choices to review, but I can't understand reviewing this, because it was never popular & was quickly forgotten.
@@davidz3879 I talk about things I want to talk about. How popular (or unpopular) something is has absolutely no bearing on what I end up covering.
Iain Morris lost momentum for a second series, shame.. could of had some potential for another series at least
Hey Andrew, have a look at Green Street if you've not seen it, it's Elijah Woods for some reason coming to London and getting caught up in the football scene. It's violent, and shite, but worth a look as it's better than this pish anyway.
Green Street was comically bad 😅
Didn't the writers of The Inbetweeners also make/work on Flight of the Concords?
Yes they wrote the episode 'The Actor' from Season 1 and 'Unnatural Love' from Season 2.
I remember watching this when it came out during lockdown cause I love footy and inbetweeners, seemed like the perfect combo. As of the start of this video, I've completely forgotten the entire series. Boring and bad.
This show seems like Dream Team for zoomers.
I don't think there's a single subject matter that's produced more poorly executed comedy/dramas than football. I think it stems from the fact that if you played organised football at any level you will have experienced all the camaraderie, comedy, joy, despair, turmoil etc that you get from it first hand, and therefore attempts to fictionalise it will never be as evocative. And if you're not interested in football then you're unlikely to be interested in a show about football.
They made too much money from The Inbetweeners.
I think I'd rather watch Jossy's Giants.
I'D rather watch Macca's Men (I doubt ANYONE will get that reference).
There's only one word to describe Jossy's Giants. Magic tv!
Tamla Kari was the highlight for me. For personal reasons...
I hated this show so much
I know this comments section gets in a tizzy when anything like this is mentioned, but really, white British writers need to try harder when it comes to their token minorities. Once you notice how many Black men characters on British TV are basically playboys or himbos and get stories about organised crime, it's obvious some producers only ever include "a BAME" because it's filling their quota.
The worst bit? If they took the quota away, it would just mean fewer jobs for Black dudes, not better roles. A lot of the folks in charge of hiring wouldn't glance at actor that didn't pass the paper bag test if they weren't forced to.