Fun fact: OBT's are physically dull colored, the orange color is emitted from their rage. /s Anyway, another great vid. I hear they're also known to teleport from how fast they are.
I unpacked my obt sling today. It was my first old world and true to form it was fast. The second the paper towel was unwrapped it bolted across my bathtub. Thankfully I stayed calm through the whole ordeal. You have to have great respect for the animals and as stated in the video comfort level is everything.
So sorry for the delay, Richard! I missed a bunch of comments. Thanks so much, Richard...that really means a lot! And I can't complain. I hope that you and yours are well!
I lost my wifi 2 months ago and i can only get on YT every once and a while but your channel is much better than just 2 months ago. Great work Tom....Mooovin on up! to the east side, To that Deluxe apartment in the skyyyyy. lol
"Are you coming up with all these bizarre ideas to make sure your OBT never escapes?" What an awesome way to put it! And probably a pretty good gauge to know if you're ready or not!
Lucky lol! Mine takes its food so fast I barely get to see it. Hey btw at what size do they start slapping? bc mine just molted and it's just about 2 inches now. And also love your videos man Ive really appreciated your guidance and advice with these husbandry vids! So thank you.
Hey, David! Mine has honestly never slapped at me. She's more shy than anything. I would guess around the 3" mark. That's usually when they get a bit more bold. And thank you so much!
I'm taking that leap into advanced keeping and I'm feeling really good about it. I just got an OBT sling the size of my fingernail half an hour ago! It's hard not to want one of these guys, temper aside, they look like a gold coin come to life, and I'm looking forward to watching my little one grow up.
Funny story. My first T was an OBT. I had no idea what I was getting and the pet store didn't tell me how agressive it is. I put it in it's enclosure and went to bed. The next morning I got up to make some coffee and turned on the light and the OBT was climbing up the wall. I just grabbed a cup and put it over the T and caught it and put it back in it's enclosure. I probably was close to being bitten and really had no idea how bad the bite was. Always good to do your homework before buying any T. Thank you for this video and getting the word out there that this is not a beginner species. That was. A long time ago and I just got another OBT but this time I am more experienced and know how dangerous it is.
Hi, Brian! That is an awesome story. Honestly, a lot of people pick these up and have no idea about the attitudes and bites. Pet stores sell them, and folks just assume they are like rose hairs. Thanks so much for sharing!!!
just wanted to thank you for all the info and rehouse videos you make. Had to rehouse my OBT slings lately (they were my first old world tarantulas I had to rehouse) and did not even get nervous thanks to all the information you give and the techniques I could practice before. Thank you!
Alexander! First off, I hope that you and your family are well! And thank you so much! That's fantastic! I'm so glad that those videos were helpful and that everything went well!
One thing I've learned recently is that anxiety dulls my reaction time. I find that if I'm shaking or worried I cause problems. Like being to forceful and causing bolts. I just got done rehousing my OBT for my 3rd time and although I'm no pro yet I am much more comfortable than I was when it was smaller.
Great point! If you get all amped up, it can totally impact your ability to think quickly and inhibit your reaction times. So glad to hear that the rehousing went well!
Great video Tom as all your are! I have to say my OBTs were my 3rd and 4Th T’S I had a Pink Toe for my first then a Vietnam Blue for 2nd then the 2 OBTs now I own 10 T’S and I have always used respect towards them I will say you taught me so much and transfers are always done with the catch cups with holes and cardboard all your tricks so no chance for escape I actually have just did my 3 rd rehouse on the OBTs and now both are in a medium round critter keeper with lots of room for growth so they will be good for a while I thank you everyday as you taught me so much !!
Ah, the OBT. My first and only tarantula so far. Got my adult female +/- for a month now, I've done two transfers and both went smoothly so I'm quite happy. Nice video, Tom.
Man, you jumped right in! haha. They are an amazing species (you can't beat that orange). My female is actually VERY calm under most circumstance. Sounds like you've got yourself a good girl! :) Thanks so much!
Wacky Mel0n as long as you study and do homework on an animal you want to keep as well as being extremely cautious and prepared I don’t see the harm. However hands on experience is where success and failure happens. Every species and every species that are the same are different in temperament.
Hey Tom. I am getting One Of these in two days time. Definitely excited. Its a little bitty sling, but I am excited mone the less. Once again, awesone video and great objective, straight forward and level headed advice. Thanks Tom.
Hey Tom, I cannot remember how many times I have just read your clarification over and over again and how many times I could not stop laughing. It has given me a great set of buzzes. Who said anyone needs drugs when you can get free ones here on youtube. All the best from Liverpool north west UK.
Ive found that if you give it several inches of substrate(5" or so) it will burrow and not make so much webbing above the surface which cancels out some of the craziness...Kind of like what you mentioned with the C.lividus before...webbing on top when you open it you are invading their home thus they can tend to get flighty or defensive...I also agree def one of the species i give ample room to minimize rehousings...When i rehoused mine recently it was calm as could be till i was prodding for pictures then it bolted out on me...which isnt as bad once you know what to do and are able to keep calm def nothing has been as heart racing as my H.pulchripes escaping the first time lol but when my obt bolted it was all run and no defense...It wasnt until i pulled the enclosure back out to show someone the set up and i blew thru the side a bit to get it to reposition for a pic that it went bonkers and it was def a show thankfully i had the lid on the enclosure because it literally bounced off the top lol...I personally never do any old world rehousings when my children are here even as tiny slings or even new world for that matter...Feedings is ok i keep a close eye but thats a whole dif ball game than a rehousing...Are you sure your tarantulas dont talk to you? Hahaha ...great video
Awesome points all around, bud! This is one of these species that I think could show fossorial, terrestrial, or arboreal tendencies depending on the specimen. I've kept three of them, and each one did something different with its surroundings. I had one that burrowed and did very little webbing on the surface. The female I got as a juvenile took residence under a piece of corkbark and webbed itself a big top over that. The one featured in most of this video went up and webbed the snot out of its enclosure and rarely touched the ground. Of all the spiders I keep, these may show the most flexibility in how they choose to set up house. And I agree completely that folks that have issues with their likely haven't given them enough space. I've seen videos of these small, shallow enclosures that leave the spider little room when opened. This triggers its defensiveness. Enclosure size and depth are definitely key to a happy orange bitey thing. hahaha. Thanks, bud!
I def agree...some would not i know a guy who says all baboons need this and this if not your keeping them wrong but its one of those see how they act type deals...i noticed mine would web at the bottom of cork and it made a nice den down there with dirt etc so i offered it and i dont think it has necessarily dug down and made a huge burrow in its new enclosure but it deff has a nice den going on...Its same with M.balfouri i offered mine plenty of digging space in its first 2 enclosures never dug just made a web den under cork bark and that was it so its newest enclosure which will be final unless its female and gets a more display style enclosure has much less substrate and it continued to do the same it made a nice den under the bark and webbed the top all around it and the ground and thats it and i actually see it out quite often now which is wonderful before i only got shots inside its den....Some people are very stick to this with the care especially people who feel they are more educated than others but if you offer a species what is suggested as the norm and it doesnt take to it i see no problem in adjusting to its personality
A lot of folks have no interest in them, as they can be a huge hassle. I have to admit that I lucked out with mine; she is quite calm and has never given me an issue (well, except when she thought I was a cricket and almost escaped. haha). :)
Two words I never thought I would see in the same sentences are OBT and beginners. Having said that there are an awful lot of beginners who are sold OBTs by unscrupulous people or those who just lack the awareness that they are not really suitable for beginners. Once they own an OBT, it is all very well to criticise them for buying it, but it still needs to be taken care of. Your video does a wonderful job of helping those people who, by whatever means, find themselves in that situation.
I agree that there are a lot of factors that can contribute to the problem. In some cases, folks don't appreciate how much of a handful they can be and pick one up in spite of their ability level and what they've read. As someone pointed out in another comment, they are sometimes sent as freebies to unsuspecting keepers. And for several years, if you searched up "best beginner tarantulas", one of the top list named the OBT as a great beginner due to its hardiness. How many people read THAT and picked one up? All great points...thanks so much!
Nice vid! Mine has never reared that I can recall. Put it straight into med critter keeper with pvc t pipe and foliage and she webbed the whole inside of pipe and attached foliage to it as well. She comes out to groom and def never has issues eating. Will say very freaking fast tho!! Gorgeous too!
Hey, Roy! This female has never given me any trouble. And older female I had was pretty nasty. They can vary in temperament from specimen to specimen. In some cases, I think they are extra mean because people don't give them enough room. Thanks so much, bud!
I used to have a rose hair when I was younger but had to get rid of it due to circumstances and recently got back into it and got a cobalt blue and now I want an obt
Awesome vid , ordered one yesterday and am really looking forward for the change in pace. Its a sling so will have plenty of time to get the vibe. As always really helpful vid!
Rewatching this as I have an OBT rehouse coming up soon, and that's so interesting about the orange color = bold! I did notice she was sitting out looking all pleased a lot more after she molted from this kind of orangey-tan color and now is more neon orange with the tiger butt markings.
this is my first old world and only been in the hobby a few months but i keep large snakes and do alot of rescues mainly the bitey ones as well as i keep parrots. So i wasnt at all indimidated by the speed and i got a 3" juvie. She wasnt hard at all to rehouse and is almost always out rarely hides and never gives me a threat display i love her
OBT's deserve a lot of respect. take some advice, i would keep them in a more arboreal enclosure and set it up for a terrestrial set up . Because that way when you do need to change the water or clean your not right on top of the OBT. trust me this will make you feel better and the T will feel safer and less likely to give you any problems. Great video Tom. Love the OBT's.
Hi, Tim! I agree completely. Giving them that extra room, especially some depth to the enclosure, is key. Iv'e noticed that folks that have nasty specimens usually have them in smaller containers with less room. I've always given mine plenty of space, and they are usually fine. Thanks, bud!
A big part of the problem seems to be that these guys are commonly given away as freebies. I didn't have a say in the matter when I got mine, and I'm still technically a beginner especially compared to you or a lot of other keepers. It just kind of showed up in the shipping box as a surprise.
That's an excellent point. An OBT is in no way an appropriate freebie unless a choice is given at the time of purchase (I know some places will let you pick between a few options). Just blindly sending a keeper an OBT who didn't specifically order one is pretty ridiculous in my book.
Oh boy this is what happened to us! Granted, we were buying two YA P. Metallicas at an expo and could have declined the freebie. When we got it home we were like, that guy just gave us a baby psychopath!
Yet another excellent video! Thanks! I remember stocking them in the shop I worked at. We had all sorts of nick names for them (the obt's)! Too bad most pet shops get bad reps... us guys knew every scientific name, place of origin and husbandry notes off the bat! We kept ours perfectly. I guess some shops do keep them poorly! But I was the GOOD Pet shop with proper cages and labels! Thanks again for the video!
That's fantastic that you guys knew what you were doing. It's a shame the good shops go unrecognized as many do not take care of them correctly. I know there are good ones (and good folks like you!) out there! I just wish there were more like that.
I've held T's for 15+ years, i was thinking of getting a more challenging species, your advise makes me reconcider the options. Great video, great advise to get you thinking about it.
Tom Moran I keep B.Auratum and Emilia, N.Chromatus, GBB, C.Chicoi (bicolor?) P.Pulcher (2) and A.Geniculata, 7f and a sling. Have raised 150 Vagans too, that was intens lol I know, would love to go to a P.Metallica for example, your comment about being comfy at all transfers really made me think im almost there :) Id like to add that your blog on humidity and not to panic about it gave me a lot off piece of mind as a keeper (!) and also brought me to your channel. Thanks a lot for the good advice! And responding!
Sells super docile Poecilotheria Regalis with a lock on the enclosure out of fear of it escaping and getting to my reptiles.......... 2 years later gets an OBT... now just slides the lid off and slowly drops smaller enclosure into the bigger enclosure, slaps the lid closed and lets it rehouse itself every time 😬
Hi Tom. I have an obt that I purchased 1.5 weeks ago as part of a collection. She had went through molt a few days before I got her, and sealed herself away. I have been binge listening to you for weeks, I know I shouldn't dig her up to check on her. I know I have heard you say pre molt can last forever but what about post molt? My g. Pulchripes molted last weekend and is out and about. I have yet to see my obt...should I be worried yet?. I appreciate it. My favorite teacher.
Hey, Dennis! Depending on how large she is, it can take them several weeks to be ready to eat again. Even slings can sometimes take a couple weeks to show that they are hungry. If she is buried deep and doesn't surface for four weeks, then you might want to carefully check on her. In that case, I would carefully open a small hole to her burrow and leave a prekilled prey item at the top (do NOT drop in a live item). Good luck!
Pre-plague, I was at a reptile expo and I ran into my local tarantula dealers. I see them often enough that they know me and vice versa, so I asked them what they would recommend, and they recommended the OBT (I'd been buying tarantulas from them for around two years before they recommended this). I wasn't super sure about it because, I mean, OBT, but I remembered you talking about how to raise them fossorrially (not in this video, I don't think, but this is the OBT video so it's relevant), so I did that with my OBT. I did her first tank transfer today, and I was super stressed out about it, but she was super calm! A little bit of confusion when it came to moving her over, but no threat posture, no slapping, none of that; just a chill little OBT moving from one tank to another. IDK if I just have a chill OBT and I got lucky, or if raising it fossorially actually helped, but I wanted to give you a heads up that your advice helped a lot. :)
I'm about to post a new video up with this girl getting a rehouse, and she was just fine. I have a chill one, too. Although I DO believe that there are more defensive ones out there, I also think that some people don't give them the room that they need to be chill spiders. Give them room to dig if they want to or room for webbing up top, and they'll be just fine. Personally, I love this species. Glad to hear that your rehousing went well, too!
Awesome detailed care video. Your sling care sheet I got from FearNotTarantulas has helped get all my Ts safely out of the Sling stage. Thanks much for making that care sheet So both times I got into the hobby I started with a OBT lol ( about 9 years ago I started collecting Ts but had to move and was not able to keep them, I just started up again in march this year.) I figured if I can handle this one ill be good. I never been fearful of them but all my old worlds get much respect, well all I have is Baboons and Pokies so I guess that's a must! This time around I think I got a bold one its always out unless molting or eating.
Hi, Anthony! Thanks so much! I'm really psyched that it's helping people! A lot of folks seem to jump right in with them without issue, which is why I didn't dwell on the "this is not a good beginner" aspect of it. I think folks need to make their own informed decisions. I've been noticing that folks who start with baboons and pokies seem to be much more cautious keepers overall. It comes with the territory. Thanks again!
Once you get some experience and get your husbandry down, I think that you will find that they are quite manageable. Just be sure to give them enclosures with extra height so that they don't web to the top. That helps a lot. And thank you so much! :)
again lovely info I'm currently bringing up 6 slings I was thinking of doing an experiment with the housing of mine by housing 3 of them aboral/semi and the other 3 terrestrial great vid as always ☺
If you do that, please let me know! I'd be very interested in hearing how it goes. I've had three, and one lived terrestrially, one burrowed for a bit, and one went up. Each one seems to be different! Thanks, bud!
Tom Moran funny you should say that because my slings have house themselves slightly different from one another. some have hidden under the cork bark with minimal webbing and couple have webbed up the side with loads of webbing using dirt in the webb bit like a pokie lol all the setups are identical they have chose to do it that way 👍
Man, every time I look through your videos, Tom, I find something else useful and interesting. I love this species, too. So beautiful! They do get a “bad rap” (not completely deserved, but certainly partially! :-D). LOVE the idea of keeping them semi-arboreally. It really helps them to feel more secure, I think, when they have some depth to retreat to. Great video!
Thanks for all your species videos, I often re watch them. I got a King baboon sling that must of been misslabelled as he/she is an Obt. Dark or brown colour form I think. He's called Cheeto & i love him so much I've got myself a Red colour form grown on sling. She is beautiful, I named her Bunny. As they are babies I haven't seen any defensive behaviour. I admire obt's for their looks, not reputation. I just love them xx
Oh your right yes, mislabel could be much worse Haha. I wanted a king baboon but I ended up realising I'm seriously in love with obt's. I pretty much love every sling I see lol xx
Very temperamental species as expected after acquiring. Even still can’t help but admire the beauty! Mine will stare you down and throw a threat posture just shining a light or slap at its webbing because of cricket is moving underneath! Surprisingly refuses to use the burrow/hide I placed and webbed up the tip corner right under the lid which makes any care a bit risky.
The two recognized color forms are brown (or the original color form) and the orange ones. I have seen different shades, and I wondered if it was just different shades from the same sac.
Awesome video Tom..i love my obt..thank you for all the dedicated work that you put in your videos.. Tom you are the T king bud no-one online is more informative than you..thank you for all you do..you are in your words.. a staple to the hobby 👍 👍..you have taught me so many things i didnt know but needed to know.. then again you are a teacher arent you lol👍👍
I absolutely love this species! But I have no luck keeping them sadly strange as I've kept and still do keep harder species of T to look after .Fantastic video with some great information mate and great footage and pictures 👍
I do, too! I lost a female years ago, and I was totally bummed. I have a feeling that she came to me sick, as all three spiders I got from this one dealer died within weeks of each other under the same circumstances. As these guys are supposed to be bullet proof, it shook my confidence a bit. Everyone seems to have a bad luck species. I think a lot of time, it's just bad luck. You obviously know what you're doing, so it's not the husbandry. Thanks, bud!
Gained my first Pterinochilus murinus (classic) yesterday!😊 she is around 7cm!. Just have to say your video's are real helpful straight from your experience and now bull$#!^😊! very big thumbs up'👍👍👍
Ive been keeping a month now and I couldnt put it off any longer: Im getting an OBT shipped from Fear Not next week along with Psalmopoeus reduncus (which seems like a good warm up for old world arboreals) and a C versi. They are the last in my beginning splurge of Ts. Holding firm at 9. My rule now is i can only get more once the ones I have outgrow their enclosures.😂 I went from "I could never own that T to I cant wait to own that T, to now IM ABOUT TO OWN THAT T over the course of a month. My plan with the OBT is to give it space, a great starter hide/foilage and room to grow. Hopefully ill only have to rehouse it once. FNT actually has the DCF Kenya available once I saw the subtle beauty I was in love. If it threat postures thatll only show off the normally hidden vibrant blues! Ive never been more pumped for a T. I think its gonna be my "favorite child" 😂
Just ordered mine along with my first pokie😁😁 Tom...you the man, everything i wanted to know i found🤘🤘 im hoping this goes like my balfouri transfer....that was 2 at once...that was fun😜😜 smooth but fun
Just watched this video and it is so true about how fast it is, my son has one prob a very young sub adult anyway hadn't seen it on god knows how long it hadn't been eating this went on way longer than a ore molt so son decided to dig it out eventually found it he gave it a few nudges not a flinch thought it was dead next thing it was out the enclosure jumped off the table and ran across the floor before I could jump on the chair I was sitting on haha, hunted ages to find the thing finally got it then had a hassle trying to get it back into the enclosure certainly got the heart thumping that day I can tell you lol x
Oh wow, Mary...that sounds like a nightmare! It's funny, as someone shared a similar experience with me. He thought his was dead, and it sprang up, bit him, and ran away. Very interesting (although horrifying to consider!). I'm glad that it all ended well for you. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders thankfully none of us did get get bitten but I was terrified incase it got out the room as I also have 3 cats who are barred from the t room we ended up discussing who would come off worse if the cats had encountered the obt lol
I got my first obt sling man there fast lol. Its my second tarantula so im exited to bond with it😊 thanks for the educational husbandry videos they really help alot..
I got one after a few new worlds, but mine is mostly cowardly. I haven’t seen a threat posture, but then again she’s fairly small still (3” or so), but otherwise not much of an issue. I keep only three OWs, though, because of my dog and cat.
Hello, Gabbie! So sorry for the delay in replying...I somehow missed a bunch of comments. UGh. Mine is VERY laid back. I lucked out with a total sweetheart! :)
I would love one of these someday, but I know I am not ready for it yet. My collection only contains NW Tarantulas for now. Anything that can put me in the hospital is not something I want to learn with.
I think everyone is different in terms of what they are comfortable with, and it's up to the individual to determine what he/she is ready for. I do think that many beginners snatch them up for the "thrill", and that's not a good idea. They can be handful, and you don't want to make a mistake with one.
Tom Moran picked up an OBT sling (appx 1”) along with a few other things that im very excited about 🤙🏼. Already falling in love with the OBT though, cannot wait to see him/her grow!
I have an OBT after spending 7 months in the hobby...I wanted to advance myself earlier so I wanted to give them a shot...I heard these Ts can make you cry badly if bitten due to their potent venom but in past when I was younger I have had some experience raising spiders (true spiders of course), I always have seen Ts as type of spiders which were evil but thanks to my friend Jon3800 he helped me alot with the enough confidence to get used to Ts as well..I agree with the fact you shouldn't do plenty of transfer so when you do one just give them enough space that you will not have to do for at least some years. I might put her in the kritter cage as you mentioned in video just because it has door on lid that you can easily shut down the door if you see the OBT is trying escape attempt. Last thing I want from these guys is being bitten because I have heard that bite from this species will last pretty long..there are people that had the pain of bite for nearly a month so I would say these are more than just defensive species..Mine go on threat posture the moment I would come near her...I can't imagine what she would do if I bother opening the lid and interact..But I'll eventually have to feed her and water so I'll need to take those risks in order to keep this little girl alive. What you could actually do is use the syringe by inserting it through the ventilation hole, I would advice less interaction with these species less as possible, so I would say just open when you really have to when feeding or transferring. You ever got bitten by these Tom?
Great vid! Yep super tip housing them in a taller container. One thing I have noticed is they can be a bit fussy sometimes and decided to make a home in wierd places! Generally though give them somewhere to hide and enough to burrow in and you are fine. One housing tip I used and worked until I had to poke the OBT out was you can use cork bark tubes on thier sides...mine lived inside one for at least three moults but of course became a complete recluse. Hoping my big one moults soon and can sex. The Tete is getting a re-house this week! (will do a vid). p.s and always rehouse in a tall sided box. Some T's I dont bother but an OBT always need that extra bit of care.
Thanks, bud! I barely saw any of mine for the most part, because they usually stuck to their burrows. Love the tubes; they're just do darned expensive (and, like you said, it turns your Ts into ghosts. haha). Can't wait for vid! :)
I had an OBT: she was a Craigslist rescue and the shiest T I had; actually only saw her twice in about 5 months. Conversely, my B. vagans was the feistiest and most defensive T in my collection...he would dash out and throw a threat pose if you merely touched his tank. Though there are certainly species-specific traits, one can never assign a blanket statement to T's...or anything else in general! ;) That said, y'all have me thinking twice about trying an OBT again. ;)
Hi, Laura! Temperament really does vary from specimen to specimen. My OBT is very shy and laid back. Obviously, mine's not the norm, but there are always exceptions. :) Get one again! haha
Hi, Paul! So sorry for the delay. If you give them some space, most of them really aren't that bad. Sure, some can be nasty, but most will hide if given the opportunity.
I just got my first juvenile and its honestly not that bad. It will retreat first more than anything and my rehouse went smooth. They quick tho...catch cup for sure..
I think the biggest thing folks need to ask themselves is do you have experience with other fast moving dangerous critters . If you have that experience and you treat the OBT like its gonna bite you every time , and you take the correct precautions . Your going to be less anxious and pretty much just shrug off its defensive behavior as just settle down little one . Its when your legit anxious and or fearful of a critter that you get into trouble .
Im a beginner and i have a obt a singapore blue and red knee my red knee is a female adult, my obt and singapore blue are both juveniles. But i dont touch or get my obt or blue out at all as i know its speed and defensiveness
You jumped right in the deep end! :) Those are some awesome species. I love my OBT; she's a sweetheart. Unfortunately, I don't get to see my blue very much. She's stunning. Thanks!
I've had two Brachypelmas and an A. Chalcodes for a few months and I went ahead and bought an OBT. I've had it for 2 years now and haven't had any issues. The stigma around it is honestly ridiculous. Don't be stupid and it's extremely hard to get bitten, you almost have to be trying imo. I've had my share of scares and almost an escape but that's part of the learning process. If you feel confident about yourself, get one. Easy as that
I got one early as well, and mine actually turned out to be very calm. I do believe that there is a lot of unnecessary hype surrounding this species, and many people are able to successfully jump right in with them. That said, I interact with a lot of beginners, and many are not informed or "smart" about how they work with their spiders. Heck, many come into the hobby thinking that all tarantula bites are no worse than bee stings and have no idea about Old World species having more potent (and painful) venom. I agree completely that it's up to the keeper to decide if he/she is ready for one.
great video as always, Tom. To the point but still covering plenty of important topics. personally, after being into ts for a couple years, Im one of those that dont bother anymore keeping them nor N incei : toó fast and unpredictable to be worth thw pretty colors. I'll take p muticus, c darlingi or any other mean fossorial any day of the week. Some peoole arent meant for some sp, lol.
I heard about folks trying communals with them, but many of them seem to end with a couple really fat spiders. I had considered trying one, but I wasn't able to find enough examples of successful ones to push me to trying it. Thanks!
Hi Tom! I'm thinking to make new tank for my OBT and I don't want to use coconut fibre as substrate, could you advise me what I could mix with dessert sand to allow it to dig etc.? Thanks a lot for reply!
It's your call. I don't find Poecilotheria to be particularly bad tempered myself, so I don't know how much they will prepare you for a potentially defensive spider. If you get one as a sling and raise it, you'll probably be fine.
Yeah, I love pokies, and I find that mine are very well behaved. My OBT is also well behaved, though, so you never know what you'll get. I say go for it! :)
Love it just got a spiderling obt rdf, an can't wait to watch it grow . Love ts that scare the shit out of me. Haha. Got 5 spiderlings last week. Amazon stout leg, gbb, obt,feather led baboon, Panama blonde, an also have an sub salmon pink, an a adult hati hati purple earth tiger... into thick of it haha
Hey, Tom! You have some great species there. Congrats on your OBT. If you keep them correctly, you'll likely find that their reputation is overblown. :)
Is it common for a sling to start showing color around 1.25"? Mine was just showing some brown-orange then, and is now at 1.5" (max) a burnt orange. My OBT from years ago would attack and bite ANYTHING in the cage, so to clean we used wooden chopsticks for safety (and got to see fang marks). :)
Some show color earlier than others. I think mine started to show some color around the 1.5" mark or so. Yeah, they can be quite the little brats. The fang marks on the chopsticks must have been something! :)
My OBT was across the counter before I could even blink when feeding once. They are no joke but I learned my lesson lol. When I would feed him he would just hang and wait for the cricket. This time I sprayed his habitat before and he was gone. I swear we sat and looked at each other for 30 minutes before I got the nerve to catch him. 😵😖
Quick question for you Tom. I've had my OBT for about a year now and rehoused her for the 2nd time a month ago. In her first enclosure she was a prolific webber/burrower and started webbing in just a few days of introducing her to that enclosure. For the second enclosure she has barely webbed at all and hangs out in the open by either walking around or in the upper corners of the enclosure in a hiding position. Is it just taking her longer to acclimate to the new enclosure?
Hello! When I rehoused mine the last time, she did the same thing, and it took her quite a while to settle in and to start webbing things up. What size is yours? Does she have cover and anchor points? Mine probably could have used more.
@@TomsBigSpiders Thanks for the quick response Tom! Yes the new enclosure has plenty of anchor points, but no actual hide as of right now. I figured the lack of a hide would encourage her to start webbing or burrowing. I'd estimate her body length size at 1.5" and legspan size of 3".
@@Tacomaholic That could be the issue right there. I've found that when they don't have a place to hide from the get go, it sometimes takes them longer to settle in. It's like when folks don't give fossorial species a hide and starter burrow, and expect them to dig. Many of them will take weeks to settle in before they feel comfortable enough to start construction. That could be the issue. It will eventually settle down and start webbing, but it just might take it longer to do so. Hope that helps!
In my experience, P.murinus are just defensive inside it enclosure (more like very defensive of their "territory") .I've seen they calm down when they are out.
i just unpacked my "half inch sling" but its almost as big as the 1 inch curly hair i got as well lol the little thing is fast as hell, ran out of the enclosure, lucky i had a little catch cup near by
Oh, dear...surprise! hahaha. Don't you just love that? I ordered a 1.5" juvenile once and received a 4" sub adult. haha So glad you were able to catch the little guy. :)
Tom Moran hey my obt is on the lid of the deli cup, just hanging there like avoiding the substrate, its mostly dry but there is a wet area. should i change something?
Gonzalo, I've found that all of my OBTs hung out up high in a corner after first being housed/rehoused. It should come down after it settles in a bit. And, as Vahyb said, they like it dry. Let the substrate dry out and give it a dish or sprinkle some water on the webbing once a week or so.
Tom Moran i noticed none the obt is the only sling that already webbed around the enclosure, although is still on the lid. ohhh and the B. albopilosum that i also got today just molted lol
Love your videos! Do you have any experience with Pterinochilus lugardi? I haven’t had much luck finding anything on them and was wondering if I can use your OBT husbandry video as a reference for that species as well since they are part of the same genus.
Hello, Bailey! Unfortunately, I don't have one yet. I keep meaning to get one! I would check out Mike's stuff; he's usually on point. www.mikebasictarantula.com/Pter-ludardi.html
Not only are they very fast, they don't bite without injecting venom - no warning bite, unlike other tarantulas - plus they effortlessly walk and run on the glass walls of their enclosure and are out of their prison and onto you before you know it. I was never bitten, but was extremely careful when dealing with this beautiful albeit very aggressive animal.
Yup, they are definitely capable of quite the bite, sometimes biting multiple times before retreating. I HAVE found them to be more defensive than aggressive when given some room (and a place to retreat to). Mine is actually quite well behaved. Thanks!
I’m looking to get an OBT (currently have a 1.5” P.Metallica). I’m sure there’s no issue as long as the purchase is informed ie don’t buy because the price is right and THEN take it home to see what an OBT actually is. If you understand it’s hella fast and punchy and plan before buying it should be ok. Am I wrong?
They DO make gloves that are supposed to protect against knives an sharps (I only know because a keeper was thinking of buying some to work with this OBT haha), but I'm not sure if they would work!
it took me 2 years to get the nerve up .i did ive had one for a year now .i have feather leg baboon tarantulas .so im already afraid of most Ts. knock on wood i have not had a problem
You're most welcome! And, after recently doing the rehousing for my M. balfouri communal, I don't think I would want the nightmare of having to rehouse multiple OBTs. hahaha
Hi, Grant I think a lot of people end up getting them as freebies! Yeah, if you're careful, they can be quite manageable. Mine is a bit of a sweetheart. :)
My obt just came out of the burrow and its missing leg 3 and pedipalp from the right side, I know the leg will grow back and its no big deal, the spider is moving around normally, but will the nissing pedipal affect its ability to hunt?
Oh, man...did it come like that? Yes, it may affect it's ability to catch prey. You may want to see how it does with live prey, then switch to prekilled if it's having a problem.
Tom Moran i think it came like that, i didnt get a good look when i unpacked it because it is an obt lol fast little things, im gonna try to feed her on sunday, i'll drop a tiny mealworm or a little cricket
Oh, I hear you! They're so quick, and you don't want to play around when rehousing. It would just be a shame if a vendor sold it to you in that kind of shape without asking. I've bought ones missing legs, but I was warned ahead of time. Keep an eye on him during feeding and see how it goes.
Tom Moran it came as a freebie, and because the other 2 spiders are fine i think it may have been the shipping, but ive heard theyre very hardy, im thinking of crushing the cricket's head a little so it still moves but not as much
I wonder if they tried to just pawn it off as a freebie due to the missing limbs? Who knows. It should be fine anyway; perhaps the vendor didn't notice. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Fun fact: OBT's are physically dull colored, the orange color is emitted from their rage. /s
Anyway, another great vid. I hear they're also known to teleport from how fast they are.
Hahahahaha! That's awesome (and so true). They are VERY fast. It's almost unnerving how quickly they can move. Thank you!
Are featherlegs fast?
So they’re technically angry all the time?
That a Super Saiyan joke. Hahaha.
Shut up asshole!
I unpacked my obt sling today. It was my first old world and true to form it was fast. The second the paper towel was unwrapped it bolted across my bathtub. Thankfully I stayed calm through the whole ordeal. You have to have great respect for the animals and as stated in the video comfort level is everything.
Glad that you were prepared and that it went well. I agree!
My OBT arrived today :) always come to you for the care and husbandry guides so thanks Tom and hope you’re doing well in all this!
So sorry for the delay, Richard! I missed a bunch of comments. Thanks so much, Richard...that really means a lot! And I can't complain. I hope that you and yours are well!
I lost my wifi 2 months ago and i can only get on YT every once and a while but your channel is much better than just 2 months ago. Great work Tom....Mooovin on up! to the east side, To that Deluxe apartment in the skyyyyy. lol
Hey, bud! Thanks so much! I've been trying to pick it up a bit in terms of presentation.
Hahahahahaha! I finally got a piece of the pie! haha
"Are you coming up with all these bizarre ideas to make sure your OBT never escapes?" What an awesome way to put it! And probably a pretty good gauge to know if you're ready or not!
Thank you so much! It's difficult for folks to know when they are ready, so I was trying to come up with gauge! :)
Tarantulas wont attack you... OBT "Hold my beer."
Hahaha. Mine is a total cuddle bug. ;)
Lucky lol! Mine takes its food so fast I barely get to see it. Hey btw at what size do they start slapping? bc mine just molted and it's just about 2 inches now. And also love your videos man Ive really appreciated your guidance and advice with these husbandry vids! So thank you.
Hey, David! Mine has honestly never slapped at me. She's more shy than anything. I would guess around the 3" mark. That's usually when they get a bit more bold. And thank you so much!
2 years old.. another hold my beer joke, never seen that before
I'm taking that leap into advanced keeping and I'm feeling really good about it. I just got an OBT sling the size of my fingernail half an hour ago! It's hard not to want one of these guys, temper aside, they look like a gold coin come to life, and I'm looking forward to watching my little one grow up.
Congrats! They really are gorgeous. Just give yours a bit of room when it gets older and you should be fine. :)
Funny story. My first T was an OBT. I had no idea what I was getting and the pet store didn't tell me how agressive it is. I put it in it's enclosure and went to bed. The next morning I got up to make some coffee and turned on the light and the OBT was climbing up the wall. I just grabbed a cup and put it over the T and caught it and put it back in it's enclosure. I probably was close to being bitten and really had no idea how bad the bite was. Always good to do your homework before buying any T. Thank you for this video and getting the word out there that this is not a beginner species. That was. A long time ago and I just got another OBT but this time I am more experienced and know how dangerous it is.
Hi, Brian! That is an awesome story. Honestly, a lot of people pick these up and have no idea about the attitudes and bites. Pet stores sell them, and folks just assume they are like rose hairs. Thanks so much for sharing!!!
Lol why would you put it into an enclosure it can escape out of
just wanted to thank you for all the info and rehouse videos you make. Had to rehouse my OBT slings lately (they were my first old world tarantulas I had to rehouse) and did not even get nervous thanks to all the information you give and the techniques I could practice before.
Thank you!
Alexander! First off, I hope that you and your family are well! And thank you so much! That's fantastic! I'm so glad that those videos were helpful and that everything went well!
One thing I've learned recently is that anxiety dulls my reaction time. I find that if I'm shaking or worried I cause problems. Like being to forceful and causing bolts. I just got done rehousing my OBT for my 3rd time and although I'm no pro yet I am much more comfortable than I was when it was smaller.
Great point! If you get all amped up, it can totally impact your ability to think quickly and inhibit your reaction times. So glad to hear that the rehousing went well!
Great video Tom as all your are! I have to say my OBTs were my 3rd and 4Th T’S I had a Pink Toe for my first then a Vietnam Blue for 2nd then the 2 OBTs now I own 10 T’S and I have always used respect towards them I will say you taught me so much and transfers are always done with the catch cups with holes and cardboard all your tricks so no chance for escape I actually have just did my 3 rd rehouse on the OBTs and now both are in a medium round critter keeper with lots of room for growth so they will be good for a while I thank you everyday as you taught me so much !!
Wow, you jumped right into the deep end! :) Thanks so much, Nicole! I'm so glad that these have been useful. :)
First class video. With the best information on OBT's. I am so happy you did this video. I am getting one Friday.
Thanks, bud! Awesome, I guess I had good timing on this one! I think the trick is to give them plenty of room and an enclosure with some depth.
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That is AWESOME Jay...
Ah, the OBT. My first and only tarantula so far. Got my adult female +/- for a month now, I've done two transfers and both went smoothly so I'm quite happy.
Nice video, Tom.
Man, you jumped right in! haha. They are an amazing species (you can't beat that orange). My female is actually VERY calm under most circumstance. Sounds like you've got yourself a good girl! :) Thanks so much!
pine pine first T!?!
Wacky Mel0n as long as you study and do homework on an animal you want to keep as well as being extremely cautious and prepared I don’t see the harm. However hands on experience is where success and failure happens. Every species and every species that are the same are different in temperament.
Hey Tom.
I am getting One Of these in two days time.
Definitely excited. Its a little bitty sling, but I am excited mone the less. Once again, awesone video and great objective, straight forward and level headed advice.
Thanks Tom.
LOVE this species (I have a thing for orange. haha). Mine is actually totally well behaved. I've never had an issue from her. Thanks so much, bud!
Hey Tom, I cannot remember how many times I have just read your clarification over and over again and how many times I could not stop laughing. It has given me a great set of buzzes. Who said anyone needs drugs when you can get free ones here on youtube. All the best from Liverpool north west UK.
Hahahaha. Thanks so much! Sometimes I get a little punchy recording these! :)
Great video. You're 1 of the few that don't scare the crap out of us. 🤗
Ive found that if you give it several inches of substrate(5" or so) it will burrow and not make so much webbing above the surface which cancels out some of the craziness...Kind of like what you mentioned with the C.lividus before...webbing on top when you open it you are invading their home thus they can tend to get flighty or defensive...I also agree def one of the species i give ample room to minimize rehousings...When i rehoused mine recently it was calm as could be till i was prodding for pictures then it bolted out on me...which isnt as bad once you know what to do and are able to keep calm def nothing has been as heart racing as my H.pulchripes escaping the first time lol but when my obt bolted it was all run and no defense...It wasnt until i pulled the enclosure back out to show someone the set up and i blew thru the side a bit to get it to reposition for a pic that it went bonkers and it was def a show thankfully i had the lid on the enclosure because it literally bounced off the top lol...I personally never do any old world rehousings when my children are here even as tiny slings or even new world for that matter...Feedings is ok i keep a close eye but thats a whole dif ball game than a rehousing...Are you sure your tarantulas dont talk to you? Hahaha ...great video
Awesome points all around, bud! This is one of these species that I think could show fossorial, terrestrial, or arboreal tendencies depending on the specimen. I've kept three of them, and each one did something different with its surroundings. I had one that burrowed and did very little webbing on the surface. The female I got as a juvenile took residence under a piece of corkbark and webbed itself a big top over that. The one featured in most of this video went up and webbed the snot out of its enclosure and rarely touched the ground. Of all the spiders I keep, these may show the most flexibility in how they choose to set up house. And I agree completely that folks that have issues with their likely haven't given them enough space. I've seen videos of these small, shallow enclosures that leave the spider little room when opened. This triggers its defensiveness. Enclosure size and depth are definitely key to a happy orange bitey thing. hahaha. Thanks, bud!
I def agree...some would not i know a guy who says all baboons need this and this if not your keeping them wrong but its one of those see how they act type deals...i noticed mine would web at the bottom of cork and it made a nice den down there with dirt etc so i offered it and i dont think it has necessarily dug down and made a huge burrow in its new enclosure but it deff has a nice den going on...Its same with M.balfouri i offered mine plenty of digging space in its first 2 enclosures never dug just made a web den under cork bark and that was it so its newest enclosure which will be final unless its female and gets a more display style enclosure has much less substrate and it continued to do the same it made a nice den under the bark and webbed the top all around it and the ground and thats it and i actually see it out quite often now which is wonderful before i only got shots inside its den....Some people are very stick to this with the care especially people who feel they are more educated than others but if you offer a species what is suggested as the norm and it doesnt take to it i see no problem in adjusting to its personality
Great vid as usual! I've kept Ts for 10 years now and still don't feel ready for an OBT! I sure love watching other keepers' videos, though.
A lot of folks have no interest in them, as they can be a huge hassle. I have to admit that I lucked out with mine; she is quite calm and has never given me an issue (well, except when she thought I was a cricket and almost escaped. haha). :)
Two words I never thought I would see in the same sentences are OBT and beginners.
Having said that there are an awful lot of beginners who are sold OBTs by unscrupulous people or those who just lack the awareness that they are not really suitable for beginners.
Once they own an OBT, it is all very well to criticise them for buying it, but it still needs to be taken care of.
Your video does a wonderful job of helping those people who, by whatever means, find themselves in that situation.
I agree that there are a lot of factors that can contribute to the problem. In some cases, folks don't appreciate how much of a handful they can be and pick one up in spite of their ability level and what they've read. As someone pointed out in another comment, they are sometimes sent as freebies to unsuspecting keepers. And for several years, if you searched up "best beginner tarantulas", one of the top list named the OBT as a great beginner due to its hardiness. How many people read THAT and picked one up? All great points...thanks so much!
Nice vid! Mine has never reared that I can recall. Put it straight into med critter keeper with pvc t pipe and foliage and she webbed the whole inside of pipe and attached foliage to it as well. She comes out to groom and def never has issues eating. Will say very freaking fast tho!! Gorgeous too!
Hey, Roy! This female has never given me any trouble. And older female I had was pretty nasty. They can vary in temperament from specimen to specimen. In some cases, I think they are extra mean because people don't give them enough room. Thanks so much, bud!
I used to have a rose hair when I was younger but had to get rid of it due to circumstances and recently got back into it and got a cobalt blue and now I want an obt
Hello, Jonathan! Welcome back to the hobby! I love my OBT. Awesome spiders!
Awesome vid , ordered one yesterday and am really looking forward for the change in pace. Its a sling so will have plenty of time to get the vibe. As always really helpful vid!
Thank you, Thomas! I got mine as a sling, and she's actually quite a sweetheart as an adult. :)
Tom Moran yeh i love a little character haha.
Rewatching this as I have an OBT rehouse coming up soon, and that's so interesting about the orange color = bold! I did notice she was sitting out looking all pleased a lot more after she molted from this kind of orangey-tan color and now is more neon orange with the tiger butt markings.
Hello, Lynn! I hope that your rehouse goes well! Yeah, I absolutely love the color of these guys. There's just something about an orange spider!
this is my first old world and only been in the hobby a few months but i keep large snakes and do alot of rescues mainly the bitey ones as well as i keep parrots. So i wasnt at all indimidated by the speed and i got a 3" juvie. She wasnt hard at all to rehouse and is almost always out rarely hides and never gives me a threat display i love her
Hello, Elorine! They are awesome spiders.
Just got my first OBT sling and she's a lot of fun. Hard to believe that just 2 years ago I was scared of anything with 8 legs!
Congrats, Bobbi! I love that species. :)
OBT's deserve a lot of respect. take some advice, i would keep them in a more arboreal enclosure and set it up for a terrestrial set up . Because that way when you do need to change the water or clean your not right on top of the OBT. trust me this will make you feel better and the T will feel safer and less likely to give you any problems. Great video Tom. Love the OBT's.
Hi, Tim! I agree completely. Giving them that extra room, especially some depth to the enclosure, is key. Iv'e noticed that folks that have nasty specimens usually have them in smaller containers with less room. I've always given mine plenty of space, and they are usually fine. Thanks, bud!
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What beautiful colors and patterns! Thanks for all of the tips. I don't think I'll be moving along to this one any time soon. :~)
Congratulations on 3k subscribers! Well deserved :~)
Thanks so much! Hahahaha.
Thank you! :)
A big part of the problem seems to be that these guys are commonly given away as freebies. I didn't have a say in the matter when I got mine, and I'm still technically a beginner especially compared to you or a lot of other keepers. It just kind of showed up in the shipping box as a surprise.
That's an excellent point. An OBT is in no way an appropriate freebie unless a choice is given at the time of purchase (I know some places will let you pick between a few options). Just blindly sending a keeper an OBT who didn't specifically order one is pretty ridiculous in my book.
Oh boy this is what happened to us! Granted, we were buying two YA P. Metallicas at an expo and could have declined the freebie. When we got it home we were like, that guy just gave us a baby psychopath!
Yet another excellent video! Thanks! I remember stocking them in the shop I worked at. We had all sorts of nick names for them (the obt's)! Too bad most pet shops get bad reps... us guys knew every scientific name, place of origin and husbandry notes off the bat! We kept ours perfectly. I guess some shops do keep them poorly! But I was the GOOD Pet shop with proper cages and labels! Thanks again for the video!
That's fantastic that you guys knew what you were doing. It's a shame the good shops go unrecognized as many do not take care of them correctly. I know there are good ones (and good folks like you!) out there! I just wish there were more like that.
I've held T's for 15+ years, i was thinking of getting a more challenging species, your advise makes me reconcider the options. Great video, great advise to get you thinking about it.
Hi, Michiel! These guys are usually at the top of the challenging list (although mine is pretty laid back). Which species do you keep? :)
Tom Moran I keep B.Auratum and Emilia, N.Chromatus, GBB, C.Chicoi (bicolor?) P.Pulcher (2) and A.Geniculata, 7f and a sling. Have raised 150 Vagans too, that was intens lol
I know, would love to go to a P.Metallica for example, your comment about being comfy at all transfers really made me think im almost there :) Id like to add that your blog on humidity and not to panic about it gave me a lot off piece of mind as a keeper (!) and also brought me to your channel. Thanks a lot for the good advice! And responding!
my obt watches me when im in the room i swear lol
Hahahaha. A buddy of mine had one that used to come out and watch TV with him. :)
He wants to kill you
Sells super docile Poecilotheria Regalis with a lock on the enclosure out of fear of it escaping and getting to my reptiles.......... 2 years later gets an OBT... now just slides the lid off and slowly drops smaller enclosure into the bigger enclosure, slaps the lid closed and lets it rehouse itself every time 😬
Hi Tom. I have an obt that I purchased 1.5 weeks ago as part of a collection. She had went through molt a few days before I got her, and sealed herself away. I have been binge listening to you for weeks, I know I shouldn't dig her up to check on her. I know I have heard you say pre molt can last forever but what about post molt? My g. Pulchripes molted last weekend and is out and about. I have yet to see my obt...should I be worried yet?. I appreciate it. My favorite teacher.
Hey, Dennis! Depending on how large she is, it can take them several weeks to be ready to eat again. Even slings can sometimes take a couple weeks to show that they are hungry. If she is buried deep and doesn't surface for four weeks, then you might want to carefully check on her. In that case, I would carefully open a small hole to her burrow and leave a prekilled prey item at the top (do NOT drop in a live item). Good luck!
Pre-plague, I was at a reptile expo and I ran into my local tarantula dealers. I see them often enough that they know me and vice versa, so I asked them what they would recommend, and they recommended the OBT (I'd been buying tarantulas from them for around two years before they recommended this). I wasn't super sure about it because, I mean, OBT, but I remembered you talking about how to raise them fossorrially (not in this video, I don't think, but this is the OBT video so it's relevant), so I did that with my OBT.
I did her first tank transfer today, and I was super stressed out about it, but she was super calm! A little bit of confusion when it came to moving her over, but no threat posture, no slapping, none of that; just a chill little OBT moving from one tank to another.
IDK if I just have a chill OBT and I got lucky, or if raising it fossorially actually helped, but I wanted to give you a heads up that your advice helped a lot. :)
I'm about to post a new video up with this girl getting a rehouse, and she was just fine. I have a chill one, too. Although I DO believe that there are more defensive ones out there, I also think that some people don't give them the room that they need to be chill spiders. Give them room to dig if they want to or room for webbing up top, and they'll be just fine. Personally, I love this species. Glad to hear that your rehousing went well, too!
@@TomsBigSpiders I just saw it! Your girl is lovely.
Awesome detailed care video. Your sling care sheet I got from FearNotTarantulas has helped get all my Ts safely out of the Sling stage. Thanks much for making that care sheet
So both times I got into the hobby I started with a OBT lol ( about 9 years ago I started collecting Ts but had to move and was not able to keep them, I just started up again in march this year.) I figured if I can handle this one ill be good. I never been fearful of them but all my old worlds get much respect, well all I have is Baboons and Pokies so I guess that's a must!
This time around I think I got a bold one its always out unless molting or eating.
Hi, Anthony! Thanks so much! I'm really psyched that it's helping people!
A lot of folks seem to jump right in with them without issue, which is why I didn't dwell on the "this is not a good beginner" aspect of it. I think folks need to make their own informed decisions. I've been noticing that folks who start with baboons and pokies seem to be much more cautious keepers overall. It comes with the territory. Thanks again!
Definitely considering getting one sometime in the future . I need to gain experience first .
Absolutely love your videos thank you .
Once you get some experience and get your husbandry down, I think that you will find that they are quite manageable. Just be sure to give them enclosures with extra height so that they don't web to the top. That helps a lot.
And thank you so much! :)
@@TomsBigSpiders very welcome .
Thank you !
again lovely info I'm currently bringing up 6 slings I was thinking of doing an experiment with the housing of mine by housing 3 of them aboral/semi and the other 3 terrestrial great vid as always ☺
If you do that, please let me know! I'd be very interested in hearing how it goes. I've had three, and one lived terrestrially, one burrowed for a bit, and one went up. Each one seems to be different! Thanks, bud!
Tom Moran funny you should say that because my slings have house themselves slightly different from one another. some have hidden under the cork bark with minimal webbing and couple have webbed up the side with loads of webbing using dirt in the webb bit like a pokie lol all the setups are identical they have chose to do it that way 👍
Man, every time I look through your videos, Tom, I find something else useful and interesting. I love this species, too. So beautiful! They do get a “bad rap” (not completely deserved, but certainly partially! :-D).
LOVE the idea of keeping them semi-arboreally. It really helps them to feel more secure, I think, when they have some depth to retreat to. Great video!
tom moran.... sir thank you so much for this husbandry video of obt... a lot of info amd new knowledge regarding this species.. thank u..
You're most welcome...I hope it helps out. Thanks!!!
Got mine today.all thanks to you,you inspired me.
That's awesome, Jee...congrats!
I really want one to add to my growing collection... awesome info Tom
Thank you, Nick!
Very underrated channel! Tom I love your videos brother I bet your a great cool teacher..
Thanks so much, Joe! Ha! :)
Don’t forget the king baboon and my favorite, the cobalt blue! All three equally defensive as seen in my collection.
Hahaha. Those, too! :)
Yes! Those are fun! XD haha
They're not dangerous, they just have a bad attitude. XD
Well may be to those who are allergic to bee stings. Lol
Thanks for all your species videos, I often re watch them.
I got a King baboon sling that must of been misslabelled as he/she is an Obt. Dark or brown colour form I think. He's called Cheeto & i love him so much I've got myself a Red colour form grown on sling. She is beautiful, I named her Bunny.
As they are babies I haven't seen any defensive behaviour. I admire obt's for their looks, not reputation.
I just love them xx
Love the name, Laura! I guess if you have to get a mislabeled tarantula, that's a good one to get. haha I love them as well!
Oh your right yes, mislabel could be much worse Haha. I wanted a king baboon but I ended up realising I'm seriously in love with obt's.
I pretty much love every sling I see lol xx
Very temperamental species as expected after acquiring. Even still can’t help but admire the beauty! Mine will stare you down and throw a threat posture just shining a light or slap at its webbing because of cricket is moving underneath! Surprisingly refuses to use the burrow/hide I placed and webbed up the tip corner right under the lid which makes any care a bit risky.
They really are absolutely stunning. I LOVE orange spiders and arachnids. Mine is calm as can be, so I totally lucked out! haha
Tom Moran is there multiple color forms as with other species some I see are more orange others are more golden yellow
The two recognized color forms are brown (or the original color form) and the orange ones. I have seen different shades, and I wondered if it was just different shades from the same sac.
Tom Moran maybe accidental cross breeding with the golden blue leg by unknowing keepers in the past? Idk possible thought
Definitely possible! I thought the same thing.
Awesome video Tom..i love my obt..thank you for all the dedicated work that you put in your videos.. Tom you are the T king bud no-one online is more informative than you..thank you for all you do..you are in your words.. a staple to the hobby 👍 👍..you have taught me so many things i didnt know but needed to know.. then again you are a teacher arent you lol👍👍
I absolutely love this species! But I have no luck keeping them sadly strange as I've kept and still do keep harder species of T to look after .Fantastic video with some great information mate and great footage and pictures 👍
I do, too! I lost a female years ago, and I was totally bummed. I have a feeling that she came to me sick, as all three spiders I got from this one dealer died within weeks of each other under the same circumstances. As these guys are supposed to be bullet proof, it shook my confidence a bit. Everyone seems to have a bad luck species. I think a lot of time, it's just bad luck. You obviously know what you're doing, so it's not the husbandry. Thanks, bud!
Nice Video Tom. Great information.
Cool looking spiders...
Have a great day.
Thanks so much, Spydey Vee!
Gained my first Pterinochilus murinus (classic) yesterday!😊 she is around 7cm!.
Just have to say your video's are real helpful straight from your experience and now bull$#!^😊! very big thumbs up'👍👍👍
That's awesome...congrats! Love those little orange balls for fury. Hahaha And thanks so much! :)
Tom Moran just a question! How often do they molt in this stage?😊
Ive been keeping a month now and I couldnt put it off any longer: Im getting an OBT shipped from Fear Not next week along with Psalmopoeus reduncus (which seems like a good warm up for old world arboreals) and a C versi. They are the last in my beginning splurge of Ts. Holding firm at 9. My rule now is i can only get more once the ones I have outgrow their enclosures.😂
I went from "I could never own that T to I cant wait to own that T, to now IM ABOUT TO OWN THAT T over the course of a month.
My plan with the OBT is to give it space, a great starter hide/foilage and room to grow. Hopefully ill only have to rehouse it once. FNT actually has the DCF Kenya available once I saw the subtle beauty I was in love. If it threat postures thatll only show off the normally hidden vibrant blues!
Ive never been more pumped for a T. I think its gonna be my "favorite child" 😂
I now have 3 of them. I'm hooked.
Just ordered mine along with my first pokie😁😁 Tom...you the man, everything i wanted to know i found🤘🤘 im hoping this goes like my balfouri transfer....that was 2 at once...that was fun😜😜 smooth but fun
That's awesome, AJ! Congrats on your first pokie! I'm sure that you'll do great. :)
I jumped right in the deep end. Just brought this guy home as my first!
Congrats, Scott!
Looks like you have had him for a year now. How are you getting on??? Do you still have him? Or was he too much?
gutz323 actually it’s a girl :) still doing great!!
@@icecorebaby cool! I only said 'he' because I assumed when you said 'this guy' I thought you meant a male.
My first spider was also an OBT , then followed up with Togo Starburst
Got mine from a sling. Love my Ts
Especially my Cobalt Blue
That's awesome, Christian! :)
Just watched this video and it is so true about how fast it is, my son has one prob a very young sub adult anyway hadn't seen it on god knows how long it hadn't been eating this went on way longer than a ore molt so son decided to dig it out eventually found it he gave it a few nudges not a flinch thought it was dead next thing it was out the enclosure jumped off the table and ran across the floor before I could jump on the chair I was sitting on haha, hunted ages to find the thing finally got it then had a hassle trying to get it back into the enclosure certainly got the heart thumping that day I can tell you lol x
Oh wow, Mary...that sounds like a nightmare! It's funny, as someone shared a similar experience with me. He thought his was dead, and it sprang up, bit him, and ran away. Very interesting (although horrifying to consider!). I'm glad that it all ended well for you. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders thankfully none of us did get get bitten but I was terrified incase it got out the room as I also have 3 cats who are barred from the t room we ended up discussing who would come off worse if the cats had encountered the obt lol
@@marymcghee3441 Well, the two cat vs. OBT stories I hear of ended up with cats that were in excruciating pain (both lived) and two dead OBTs. lol
I really like the weddings these guys do.😊
Me too! They can really decorate an enclosure.
I got my first obt sling man there fast lol. Its my second tarantula so im exited to bond with it😊 thanks for the educational husbandry videos they really help alot..
Hey, Timothy! Yeah, they can really boogie when they are smaller! And I'm glad that this was helpful!
I got one after a few new worlds, but mine is mostly cowardly. I haven’t seen a threat posture, but then again she’s fairly small still (3” or so), but otherwise not much of an issue. I keep only three OWs, though, because of my dog and cat.
Hello, Gabbie! So sorry for the delay in replying...I somehow missed a bunch of comments. UGh.
Mine is VERY laid back. I lucked out with a total sweetheart! :)
I would love one of these someday, but I know I am not ready for it yet. My collection only contains NW Tarantulas for now. Anything that can put me in the hospital is not something I want to learn with.
I think everyone is different in terms of what they are comfortable with, and it's up to the individual to determine what he/she is ready for. I do think that many beginners snatch them up for the "thrill", and that's not a good idea. They can be handful, and you don't want to make a mistake with one.
Hopefully picking one of these up later today! :) very excited
Hey, bud! That's awesome! This is one of my favorites. My girl is a total sweetheart! :)
Tom Moran picked up an OBT sling (appx 1”) along with a few other things that im very excited about 🤙🏼. Already falling in love with the OBT though, cannot wait to see him/her grow!
I have an OBT after spending 7 months in the hobby...I wanted to advance myself earlier so I wanted to give them a shot...I heard these Ts can make you cry badly if bitten due to their potent venom but in past when I was younger I have had some experience raising spiders (true spiders of course), I always have seen Ts as type of spiders which were evil but thanks to my friend Jon3800 he helped me alot with the enough confidence to get used to Ts as well..I agree with the fact you shouldn't do plenty of transfer so when you do one just give them enough space that you will not have to do for at least some years. I might put her in the kritter cage as you mentioned in video just because it has door on lid that you can easily shut down the door if you see the OBT is trying escape attempt. Last thing I want from these guys is being bitten because I have heard that bite from this species will last pretty long..there are people that had the pain of bite for nearly a month so I would say these are more than just defensive species..Mine go on threat posture the moment I would come near her...I can't imagine what she would do if I bother opening the lid and interact..But I'll eventually have to feed her and water so I'll need to take those risks in order to keep this little girl alive. What you could actually do is use the syringe by inserting it through the ventilation hole, I would advice less interaction with these species less as possible, so I would say just open when you really have to when feeding or transferring. You ever got bitten by these Tom?
Thanks for this. Haha finally having one tomorrow. First old world really, wish me luck!
You're most welcome...and congrats and good luck! :)
I would not want to keep an OBT. I would be happy with just one female GBB. Thanks for the info Tom.
You HAVE to get your GBB someday! Thanks, Joyce!
Screw logic, my second tarantula is going to be an OBT.
@@tiantian329 This guys gets it =P
3 year old video still helpful today! My OBT arrives tomorrow
Sorry for the later reply! Man, that's awesome! I have to do an update on this one. I love her! Thank you!
Great vid! Yep super tip housing them in a taller container. One thing I have noticed is they can be a bit fussy sometimes and decided to make a home in wierd places! Generally though give them somewhere to hide and enough to burrow in and you are fine.
One housing tip I used and worked until I had to poke the OBT out was you can use cork bark tubes on thier sides...mine lived inside one for at least three moults but of course became a complete recluse. Hoping my big one moults soon and can sex. The Tete is getting a re-house this week! (will do a vid).
p.s and always rehouse in a tall sided box. Some T's I dont bother but an OBT always need that extra bit of care.
Thanks, bud! I barely saw any of mine for the most part, because they usually stuck to their burrows.
Love the tubes; they're just do darned expensive (and, like you said, it turns your Ts into ghosts. haha).
Can't wait for vid! :)
I had an OBT: she was a Craigslist rescue and the shiest T I had; actually only saw her twice in about 5 months. Conversely, my B. vagans was the feistiest and most defensive T in my collection...he would dash out and throw a threat pose if you merely touched his tank. Though there are certainly species-specific traits, one can never assign a blanket statement to T's...or anything else in general! ;) That said, y'all have me thinking twice about trying an OBT again. ;)
Hi, Laura! Temperament really does vary from specimen to specimen. My OBT is very shy and laid back. Obviously, mine's not the norm, but there are always exceptions. :) Get one again! haha
How do u rescue a tarantula? they live in room temperatures and eat like 3 times a year.
i had one almost escape during puting water last a week. But still they are gorgeous and stunning t's :)
They are just do darn fast...and pretty! haha
I’d LOVE to keep one, but I just haven’t mustered up the guts. These make my centipede seem friendly :o Sometime soon, though, for sure. Nice vid man!
Hi, Paul! So sorry for the delay. If you give them some space, most of them really aren't that bad. Sure, some can be nasty, but most will hide if given the opportunity.
I just got my first juvenile and its honestly not that bad. It will retreat first more than anything and my rehouse went smooth. They quick tho...catch cup for sure..
I think the biggest thing folks need to ask themselves is do you have experience with other fast moving dangerous critters . If you have that experience and you treat the OBT like its gonna bite you every time , and you take the correct precautions . Your going to be less anxious and pretty much just shrug off its defensive behavior as just settle down little one . Its when your legit anxious and or fearful of a critter that you get into trouble .
Very well put, Joe!
I bred a pair of these many years ago. Didn't see her very much.
Hi, John! Yeah, my girl is pretty shy! :)
Im a beginner and i have a obt a singapore blue and red knee my red knee is a female adult, my obt and singapore blue are both juveniles. But i dont touch or get my obt or blue out at all as i know its speed and defensiveness
You jumped right in the deep end! :) Those are some awesome species. I love my OBT; she's a sweetheart. Unfortunately, I don't get to see my blue very much. She's stunning. Thanks!
I've had two Brachypelmas and an A. Chalcodes for a few months and I went ahead and bought an OBT. I've had it for 2 years now and haven't had any issues. The stigma around it is honestly ridiculous. Don't be stupid and it's extremely hard to get bitten, you almost have to be trying imo. I've had my share of scares and almost an escape but that's part of the learning process. If you feel confident about yourself, get one. Easy as that
I got one early as well, and mine actually turned out to be very calm. I do believe that there is a lot of unnecessary hype surrounding this species, and many people are able to successfully jump right in with them. That said, I interact with a lot of beginners, and many are not informed or "smart" about how they work with their spiders. Heck, many come into the hobby thinking that all tarantula bites are no worse than bee stings and have no idea about Old World species having more potent (and painful) venom. I agree completely that it's up to the keeper to decide if he/she is ready for one.
Agreed.
great video as always, Tom. To the point but still covering plenty of important topics.
personally, after being into ts for a couple years, Im one of those that dont bother anymore keeping them nor N incei : toó fast and unpredictable to be worth thw pretty colors. I'll take p muticus, c darlingi or any other mean fossorial any day of the week.
Some peoole arent meant for some sp, lol.
nice video as usual.
Definitely on my list for the future.
I heard they could be kept communally, do you have any information about that?
Thank you!
I heard about folks trying communals with them, but many of them seem to end with a couple really fat spiders. I had considered trying one, but I wasn't able to find enough examples of successful ones to push me to trying it.
Thanks!
Hi Tom! I'm thinking to make new tank for my OBT and I don't want to use coconut fibre as substrate, could you advise me what I could mix with dessert sand to allow it to dig etc.? Thanks a lot for reply!
I would use peat or topsoil. You can also add some clay to help it keep it's form.
I am wondering to get this species, even tho i am not that experienced yet, i do have a B.hamoreii and a p.metallica and a p.regalis
It's your call. I don't find Poecilotheria to be particularly bad tempered myself, so I don't know how much they will prepare you for a potentially defensive spider. If you get one as a sling and raise it, you'll probably be fine.
Tom Moran my regalis is about 1-2 years old and my metallica 3 months and so far my regalis behaved pretty good
Yeah, I love pokies, and I find that mine are very well behaved. My OBT is also well behaved, though, so you never know what you'll get. I say go for it! :)
I have 2 of them. One of my favorites.
Easily one of my all time favorite species. I currently have 5.
Thank you this video I just got my obt sling this help me
Hi, Angie! I'm so glad that this was helpful!
I honestly hated spiders in general, but ever since I started watching exotic lair I just can't keep my eyes off the OBT. They're so beautiful
They are a gorgeous species.
considering getting one as a first sling.
They're hardy as all heck, and mine grew rather slowly. They don't get their attitude until they hit around 3" or so.
good to know thanks.
Love it just got a spiderling obt rdf, an can't wait to watch it grow . Love ts that scare the shit out of me. Haha. Got 5 spiderlings last week. Amazon stout leg, gbb, obt,feather led baboon, Panama blonde, an also have an sub salmon pink, an a adult hati hati purple earth tiger... into thick of it haha
Hey, Tom! You have some great species there. Congrats on your OBT. If you keep them correctly, you'll likely find that their reputation is overblown. :)
Is it common for a sling to start showing color around 1.25"? Mine was just showing some brown-orange then, and is now at 1.5" (max) a burnt orange. My OBT from years ago would attack and bite ANYTHING in the cage, so to clean we used wooden chopsticks for safety (and got to see fang marks). :)
Some show color earlier than others. I think mine started to show some color around the 1.5" mark or so. Yeah, they can be quite the little brats. The fang marks on the chopsticks must have been something! :)
My OBT was across the counter before I could even blink when feeding once. They are no joke but I learned my lesson lol. When I would feed him he would just hang and wait for the cricket. This time I sprayed his habitat before and he was gone. I swear we sat and looked at each other for 30 minutes before I got the nerve to catch him. 😵😖
Man, that does NOT sound like fun. hahaha Yeah, they are fast little buggers! :)
I will be having my fisrt OBT and for that I am being educated in here.. thanks!
I have another more current video on mine, if you're interested. I love this species.
Quick question for you Tom. I've had my OBT for about a year now and rehoused her for the 2nd time a month ago. In her first enclosure she was a prolific webber/burrower and started webbing in just a few days of introducing her to that enclosure. For the second enclosure she has barely webbed at all and hangs out in the open by either walking around or in the upper corners of the enclosure in a hiding position. Is it just taking her longer to acclimate to the new enclosure?
Hello! When I rehoused mine the last time, she did the same thing, and it took her quite a while to settle in and to start webbing things up. What size is yours? Does she have cover and anchor points? Mine probably could have used more.
@@TomsBigSpiders Thanks for the quick response Tom! Yes the new enclosure has plenty of anchor points, but no actual hide as of right now. I figured the lack of a hide would encourage her to start webbing or burrowing. I'd estimate her body length size at 1.5" and legspan size of 3".
@@Tacomaholic That could be the issue right there. I've found that when they don't have a place to hide from the get go, it sometimes takes them longer to settle in. It's like when folks don't give fossorial species a hide and starter burrow, and expect them to dig. Many of them will take weeks to settle in before they feel comfortable enough to start construction. That could be the issue. It will eventually settle down and start webbing, but it just might take it longer to do so. Hope that helps!
@@TomsBigSpiders Thanks for the info Tom. I'll add some kind of hide and see what happens.
In my experience, P.murinus are just defensive inside it enclosure (more like very defensive of their "territory") .I've seen they calm down when they are out.
Yeah, I think their legendary attitudes are due to defensiveness of having their personal space threatened. When out, they usually bolt.
i just unpacked my "half inch sling" but its almost as big as the 1 inch curly hair i got as well lol the little thing is fast as hell, ran out of the enclosure, lucky i had a little catch cup near by
Oh, dear...surprise! hahaha. Don't you just love that? I ordered a 1.5" juvenile once and received a 4" sub adult. haha
So glad you were able to catch the little guy. :)
Tom Moran hey my obt is on the lid of the deli cup, just hanging there like avoiding the substrate, its mostly dry but there is a wet area. should i change something?
Gonzalo Camacho Obts normally like it dry mist once a week probably just like that because it's still settling in
Gonzalo, I've found that all of my OBTs hung out up high in a corner after first being housed/rehoused. It should come down after it settles in a bit. And, as Vahyb said, they like it dry. Let the substrate dry out and give it a dish or sprinkle some water on the webbing once a week or so.
Tom Moran i noticed none the obt is the only sling that already webbed around the enclosure, although is still on the lid. ohhh and the B. albopilosum that i also got today just molted lol
I am getting one from fear not tarantulas so I am pretty excited
Congrats! I LOVE my OBT. Stunning spiders (and my girl is totally laid back). :)
@@TomsBigSpiders the rehouse for the Obt should be fun😁 I am getting two others but idk yet I am going to post them on my RUclips when I get them
I thought the obt stood for orange baboon tarantula
They are beautiful redheads ! I’m a beginner & I had scorpions so I think this baby would work for me. So interested!
They really are. Amazing spiders. :)
Love your videos! Do you have any experience with Pterinochilus lugardi? I haven’t had much luck finding anything on them and was wondering if I can use your OBT husbandry video as a reference for that species as well since they are part of the same genus.
Hello, Bailey! Unfortunately, I don't have one yet. I keep meaning to get one! I would check out Mike's stuff; he's usually on point. www.mikebasictarantula.com/Pter-ludardi.html
Tom Moran Thanks so much! That’s really helpful 😊
Awesome video dude as always
Thanks, man!
I'm not sure on the size of the OBT I'm getting but when it gets about 2-4 inches is a 5 gal. Enclosure good??
Sorry for the delay, Dan. Yes, a 5-gallon should be perfect.
Not only are they very fast, they don't bite without injecting venom - no warning bite, unlike other tarantulas - plus they effortlessly walk and run on the glass walls of their enclosure and are out of their prison and onto you before you know it. I was never bitten, but was extremely careful when dealing with this beautiful albeit very aggressive animal.
Yup, they are definitely capable of quite the bite, sometimes biting multiple times before retreating. I HAVE found them to be more defensive than aggressive when given some room (and a place to retreat to). Mine is actually quite well behaved. Thanks!
Hence the name Orange Bitey Thing!
I’m looking to get an OBT (currently have a 1.5” P.Metallica). I’m sure there’s no issue as long as the purchase is informed ie don’t buy because the price is right and THEN take it home to see what an OBT actually is. If you understand it’s hella fast and punchy and plan before buying it should be ok. Am I wrong?
really want one of these! think I'm ready for it!. Have a p. ornata that think she is a obt!😊
thumbs up for the video!😀
Oh, man...if you're keeping a pissed off ornata, I'd say that you're ready, too. hahaha Thanks!
Tom Moran now i got of them one classic and one real obt!😀
Thanks tom really helpful video!😊👌👍
antonsenrs shut up 😀
antonsenrs shut up Freak 😀😂
antonsenrs you got Shit in your Face 😂😀
I was wondering if there are such as fang proof gloves available? Kevlar or chainmale (mail?) perhaps?
You mean to prevent a possible bite?
Tom Moran yes, if such a thing is even possible
They DO make gloves that are supposed to protect against knives an sharps (I only know because a keeper was thinking of buying some to work with this OBT haha), but I'm not sure if they would work!
it took me 2 years to get the nerve up .i did ive had one for a year now .i have feather leg baboon tarantulas .so im already afraid of most Ts. knock on wood i have not had a problem
So glad to hear that it's going well, Rick!
many thanks sir.. nice video
did you try a communal Obt?
You're most welcome! And, after recently doing the rehousing for my M. balfouri communal, I don't think I would want the nightmare of having to rehouse multiple OBTs. hahaha
I got one as a freebie and I was like oh shit because I was a kinda noob, but it's not too bad if you're careful. Transfers were a pain though lol
Hi, Grant I think a lot of people end up getting them as freebies! Yeah, if you're careful, they can be quite manageable. Mine is a bit of a sweetheart. :)
My obt just came out of the burrow and its missing leg 3 and pedipalp from the right side, I know the leg will grow back and its no big deal, the spider is moving around normally, but will the nissing pedipal affect its ability to hunt?
Oh, man...did it come like that? Yes, it may affect it's ability to catch prey. You may want to see how it does with live prey, then switch to prekilled if it's having a problem.
Tom Moran i think it came like that, i didnt get a good look when i unpacked it because it is an obt lol fast little things, im gonna try to feed her on sunday, i'll drop a tiny mealworm or a little cricket
Oh, I hear you! They're so quick, and you don't want to play around when rehousing. It would just be a shame if a vendor sold it to you in that kind of shape without asking. I've bought ones missing legs, but I was warned ahead of time. Keep an eye on him during feeding and see how it goes.
Tom Moran it came as a freebie, and because the other 2 spiders are fine i think it may have been the shipping, but ive heard theyre very hardy, im thinking of crushing the cricket's head a little so it still moves but not as much
I wonder if they tried to just pawn it off as a freebie due to the missing limbs? Who knows. It should be fine anyway; perhaps the vendor didn't notice. Sounds like a good idea to me.