Thank you Shannon and Bryan ! I have been trying to make sense of these numbers for a while and some pro shop pros don't share well or explain it in a way that can be easily understood. Im going to visit a bowler x shop soon and build a new arsenal this definitely helps.. Good Luck on tour this year !
Questions: Why would I choose any of these stats over other ones? For example, how do I know if I want the ball to hook early or hook later? How do I know if I want the ball to have a high hook potential or a low hook potential? I'm assuming it relates to my style of play and lane conditions but helping me to understand why I would want certain ball characteristics over other ones would be useful. Thanks.
It might help to think of it in terms of strong and weak balls. A strong ball will hook high/early. Usually, you'd want this early in a squad/league. More oil makes it harder to achieve a good reaction, hence the "strong" term. As the lane oil breaks down, you can migrate to a "weaker" ball, i.e., one that gets down the lane a bit farther before making the move to the pocket. And yes, your style of play is a big factor as well. Rev dominant, speed dominant, balanced, all how you might approach your decisions.
Nice explanation. However, you never explained the numbers to establish lower/higher differential ratings. You did provide numbers for lower/higher RG ratings.
Ranges from 0 to 0.060", which is the limit set by USBC. Amount of hook increases (mostly) as Diff increases. Search for video by USBC, technology Study Section II.
As someone suffers from severe depression it sometimes make it very difficult for me to understand something. However what you just showed me was easy to learn so thank you very very much.
I think you just have a learning disability my brotha. I got severe depression too but I understand things easily. might wanna get that checked out by a doctor
@@VincentsVideos Mate thanks if that was meant to help me, but that was a little hurtful. My depression often makes it hard to understand things, but usually that fogginess dissipates and I am again able to see things clearly.
@@Paulmaudib yeah only trying to help bro, I was just saying it straight up. I've been dealing with it for years and wish someone told me straight up so I thought I'd do the same for you 🤝🏻 we got this bro
HI guys, love you togetherness in the video. always pleasant to watch. I have a question on the "differential number". It was not clearly defined for your viewers. In a n example you provided, it was mentioned about a " higher" differential and the ambiguity of the differential number has me curious about which way higher or lower is. For example, one ball can have a differential of 0.029 while another ball has 0.053. Which one is the "higher" differential? The basis for the differential number comes from the RG on the X axis and the Y axis which I have not see a presentation for. Well anyway, my questions is still in the air.
Thanks Shannon and Big Brain husband. This was a good explanation of how these specs affect ball reaction. I just got a new benchmark ball drilled yesterday so now I have to figure out my line to the pocket.
When you say hook potential - does that just mean how many boards it covers when it hooks? or does that mean a longer hook phase (meaning you could potentially hit the pins before it gets to rolling on a high diff ball?)
Why is it, that when you get a ball in the 13-12 pound range, that the Rg goes up? My wife bowls a 13# and when we look at the numbers advertised, once we go 13# and get the ball, the numbers are different.
@@americanpride9733 It's called trolling sir. 4 people enjoyed the troll and randomness of my comment and you were apparently fooled by taking the bait and running with it. I've already reeled you into my boat and I'm prepared to gut and cook you. Guts will go to the seagulls!
If I understand correctly, just put numbers out. An RG of 2.58 and a Diff of 0.058 the ball will travel, i.e. a 60 foot lane, 50 ft before it wants to flare/hook
so just curious... if I write my numbers down, and have 2 asym balls (crux prime & lock)... if bowling on heavy oil (USBC OC) and want the early rolling ball, then would you take a low abralon pad to the low RG ball to use on competition? or stick with box finish ball and use that? basically thinking of taking my lock down to 1000. it's currently at 4000 righ tnow.
What would I class a high or low differential. My son has a motive with at 2.48 rg and a differential of .034 Do they come. A lot higher than this Is there a average of where they more or less start and finish with most manufacturing process
Stay lined up in the same spot, once you get on the approach just move straight back about 2 inches. The ball will travel near the same line just come in a touch higher, that should push the 3 and 6 into the 10
If high RG and low differential cause longer length before the roll. and low RG and high differential cause shorter length before the roll, does it make sense to always use these combinations together when trying to achieve longer or shorter length and not use low differential with low RG or high differential with high RG because those combinations would counteract each other? While you are thinking of the response to this question, here is my favorite bowling song: ruclips.net/video/_wjHYTzAHew/видео.html
@@zackerystephens4337 wowww we didn't get a sectionals or IHSA state series at all because of COVID, so stupid, ended the season with a 225 average, highest in our conference, good luck in state brother
Ok, here's my question! I'm older and have recently just started getting into bowling since I cant do much of what I used to. I was a conventional bowler up until about 3 weeks ago. Been looking for a ball that will hook well on medium oil. Hopefully I can get the purple pearl urethane one when it comes out again. What does RG stand for?
@@markholland8953 thank you. Did a little research as soon as I asked it. So, seeing as I have only been throwing a hook for 4 weeks now, suggested ball of choice? My throw is left handed. 2 fingers at the moment. Started from second approach line all the way to the right. Still throw it fairly hard. Quite a bit of rotation. So I want a high rg, and for meduim oil lanes. After I did some research, it pointed me towards Purple pearl urethane and Vibe. Both at the moment are not on the market "yet". Any other suggestions? I definitely am gonna try to get the purple pearl.
@@markanthony6758 Well, it depends a lot on what kind of ball motion you seek. If you're looking for something that will be a smooth arc from start to finish, the urethane is a good choice, BUT, it will chew up the lane more than a resin ball. If you're looking for a more "hockey stick" motion (hard snap toward the pins), then a pearl is a good choice. There's also differences, albeit slight, in the coverstock you choose. Pearls tend to go longer than solids, generally. You can also adjust the surface of the ball to change the motion, but you can't make adjustments during competition (league). There are a lot of factors that can influence ball choice! Best advice - get with a pro shop operator. Check with friends that can give good, solid recommendations. Ideally, the operator will watch you bowl before making any changes.
@@markholland8953 you pretty nailed it head on there. My throws are definitely like a hockey stick. Not sure I'm going to be a smooth arc thrower. I'm just so adapt to my conventional style of throw, I may never get out of the throw it harder and the head pin nearly straight on
@@markanthony6758 Layout and ball surface might be playing a factor in that. If you're primarily using symmetrical pearl balls drilled with the pin near the fingers, you might only see a hockey stick motion.
The lowesr differential is 0.000 and typically the highest differential is 0.057. I'd say high is 0.040 and up. Differential is just the difference in the radius of gyration between the axis of stable rotation of the core. This is why a symmetric core has one differential and an assymetric core has two differentials (intermediate differential is the second).
This would make sense, till you look at low RG balls that are skid flip. That kinda blows your theory out of the water, doesn't it? How could a low RG ball be skid flip in its definition?
The motion is still skid-flip, it just does the motion at a different distance down the lane. I have two different pearl balls that are skid flip. One wants to do that at 40 feet (RG: 2.476 verge pearl), another might want to 42 feet (RG: 2.537 Hell raiser return). They have nearly the same Differential for backend motion. The RG of the core (and surface) will determine when it will start the movement.
@@Fejix87 okay, then how do you explain balls with the same RG and differential moving completely differently down the lane? I have balls with the same RG that are completely different in how they move down the lane. I have a smooth motion high RG and high diff ball, while at the same time having a akid flip one as well. Both move at different lengths on the lane as well.
@@davidchamberlain5146 the point here is nothing they said in the video means anything, as those numbers mean absolutely dick. Just because a ball has a certain RG doesn't mean it will move a specific way. Those numbers mean absolutely dick by themselves. It would be like measuring a motor's power level by the amount of cubic inches and piston offset. My little 3.5L V6 makes well over double the power as my 5.7L V8 engine.
@@charlieodom9107 they were just trying to explain the RG and the differential. The path that a ball will actually travel is dependent on a number of other factors as well. The way the ball is laid out can have a big impact on what the actual numbers are, but there’s not enough time in a short video to explain every thing about ball motion.
Why not express the RG and Differential numbers on a ten point scale? It would be so much easier to remember. As it is, it seems that only bowling geeks know this stuff.
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As someone who struggles with learning disabilities... this is great help and much needed because I work in a pro shop
Thank you, I'm getting back into bowling and want to find a ball that hooks later and you guys broke it down perfectly, thank you so much 🙏
Thank you Shannon and Bryan ! I have been trying to make sense of these numbers for a while and some pro shop pros don't share well or explain it in a way that can be easily understood. Im going to visit a bowler x shop soon and build a new arsenal this definitely helps.. Good Luck on tour this year !
Questions: Why would I choose any of these stats over other ones? For example, how do I know if I want the ball to hook early or hook later? How do I know if I want the ball to have a high hook potential or a low hook potential? I'm assuming it relates to my style of play and lane conditions but helping me to understand why I would want certain ball characteristics over other ones would be useful. Thanks.
It might help to think of it in terms of strong and weak balls. A strong ball will hook high/early. Usually, you'd want this early in a squad/league. More oil makes it harder to achieve a good reaction, hence the "strong" term. As the lane oil breaks down, you can migrate to a "weaker" ball, i.e., one that gets down the lane a bit farther before making the move to the pocket.
And yes, your style of play is a big factor as well. Rev dominant, speed dominant, balanced, all how you might approach your decisions.
@@markholland8953 -- thank you
A lot of it is just feel too. I wouldn't get too caught up in the numbers
Thanks! This was a very clear and simple explanation of these two common terms/specs.
Great short easy to understand tip👍🏻
Thank you Shannon and Bryan for the update love tip Tuesday
Nice explanation. However, you never explained the numbers to establish lower/higher differential ratings. You did provide numbers for lower/higher RG ratings.
Ranges from 0 to 0.060", which is the limit set by USBC. Amount of hook increases (mostly) as Diff increases. Search for video by USBC, technology Study Section II.
Very easy to understand! Thanks sir and maam
As someone suffers from severe depression it sometimes make it very difficult for me to understand something. However what you just showed me was easy to learn so thank you very very much.
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I think you just have a learning disability my brotha. I got severe depression too but I understand things easily. might wanna get that checked out by a doctor
@@VincentsVideos Mate thanks if that was meant to help me, but that was a little hurtful. My depression often makes it hard to understand things, but usually that fogginess dissipates and I am again able to see things clearly.
@@Paulmaudib yeah only trying to help bro, I was just saying it straight up. I've been dealing with it for years and wish someone told me straight up so I thought I'd do the same for you 🤝🏻 we got this bro
How does severe depression have to do with watching a RUclips video
That was the short simple answer, that will help the casual bowler, so, good to have out there as a quick tip. Thanks!
HI guys, love you togetherness in the video. always pleasant to watch. I have a question on the "differential number". It was not clearly defined for your viewers. In a n example you provided, it was mentioned about a " higher" differential and the ambiguity of the differential number has me curious about which way higher or lower is. For example, one ball can have a differential of 0.029 while another ball has 0.053. Which one is the "higher" differential? The basis for the differential number comes from the RG on the X axis and the Y axis which I have not see a presentation for. Well anyway, my questions is still in the air.
Thanks, Great explanation, how about explaining the Mass Bias Differential of an Asymmetrical ball.
Great explanation!
Great RG and Diff information tips and you make it easier to remember. I wrote mines down as well. Thank you!
Thanks Shannon and Big Brain husband. This was a good explanation of how these specs affect ball reaction. I just got a new benchmark ball drilled yesterday so now I have to figure out my line to the pocket.
It’s about time someone explains this, instead of just throwing out a bunch of numbers
When you say hook potential - does that just mean how many boards it covers when it hooks? or does that mean a longer hook phase (meaning you could potentially hit the pins before it gets to rolling on a high diff ball?)
So... the lower the RG = it hooks sooner. The higher the diff = the more hook / flare. Is that correct?
Now that was super helpfull!!! Thank you. :)
Thanks. Easy answer !
Why is it, that when you get a ball in the 13-12 pound range, that the Rg goes up? My wife bowls a 13# and when we look at the numbers advertised, once we go 13# and get the ball, the numbers are different.
Thank you.. will write this down
As someone that suffers from lower back pains and arthritis in my knees you guys made this very easy to understand.
How does back pain and arthritis affect how easy or difficult it is to understand
@@americanpride9733 It's called trolling sir. 4 people enjoyed the troll and randomness of my comment and you were apparently fooled by taking the bait and running with it. I've already reeled you into my boat and I'm prepared to gut and cook you. Guts will go to the seagulls!
@@americanpride9733lmao took the words out of my mount. 😂
what is the meaning of RG
Rolling Gravity?
What value is considered high differential? My ball has 0.04, is it high?
What do you consider a low and a high differentials?
Low Diff.-RG: .01 - .02 (low flare potential)
Med. Diff.-RG: .021 - .04 (med flare Potential)
High Diff.-RG: .041 - .06 (high flare potential)
If I understand correctly, just put numbers out. An RG of 2.58 and a Diff of 0.058 the ball will travel, i.e. a 60 foot lane, 50 ft before it wants to flare/hook
This evaluation doesn't make sense as the flare/breakpoint is also dictated by oil, ball speed, and surface.
What about ball speed? Can’t a strong roller throw right through the break point?
Thanks for the tip. 👌🏽
so just curious... if I write my numbers down, and have 2 asym balls (crux prime & lock)... if bowling on heavy oil (USBC OC) and want the early rolling ball, then would you take a low abralon pad to the low RG ball to use on competition? or stick with box finish ball and use that? basically thinking of taking my lock down to 1000. it's currently at 4000 righ tnow.
THANK YOU!
Thank you so much!
Shannon rocks
Thanks and thanks for watching!!
thank you guys thats easy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What would I class a high or low differential. My son has a motive with at 2.48 rg and a differential of .034 Do they come. A lot higher than this Is there a average of where they more or less start and finish with most manufacturing process
Sounds like the Venom Shock? That's a low RG, mid Differential ball. A good Benchmark ball IMO. I love mine !!
I bowl at st. Clair too
But what about the numbers after drilling?
Bingo! Those values on the ball box are pretty useless after drilling. Good video though.
You mean you don’t game an un-drilled ball? 😂😂
Also, the higher the differential, the more violent the reaction is going to be.
Simplistic description! AWESOME!!
I hit the pocket Alot but leave a ton of 10 pins any tips on how to not leave so man 10 pins?
Stay lined up in the same spot, once you get on the approach just move straight back about 2 inches. The ball will travel near the same line just come in a touch higher, that should push the 3 and 6 into the 10
@@andyzamora404 I try this buy sometimes still leave 10 pins my bowling alley is bad with the 10 pins lol
Maybe move just a touch right and take a little hand out of it. Play a little straighter, try to come in a little higher on the head pin
@@andyzamora404 I will try this as well thank you.
@@allenthomas914 I hope one of these help. Good luck out there and keep up the practice
If high RG and low differential cause longer length before the roll. and low RG and high differential cause shorter length before the roll, does it make sense to always use these combinations together when trying to achieve longer or shorter length and not use low differential with low RG or high differential with high RG because those combinations would counteract each other? While you are thinking of the response to this question, here is my favorite bowling song: ruclips.net/video/_wjHYTzAHew/видео.html
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@@martysnyder6799 thank you
in highschool?
@@reachaces yes
@@zackerystephens4337 wowww we didn't get a sectionals or IHSA state series at all because of COVID, so stupid, ended the season with a 225 average, highest in our conference, good luck in state brother
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i finaly understand thanks 😅🤣
I bowl with a low RG. Suggest a ball.
Ok, here's my question! I'm older and have recently just started getting into bowling since I cant do much of what I used to. I was a conventional bowler up until about 3 weeks ago. Been looking for a ball that will hook well on medium oil. Hopefully I can get the purple pearl urethane one when it comes out again. What does RG stand for?
Radius of Gyration
@@markholland8953 thank you. Did a little research as soon as I asked it. So, seeing as I have only been throwing a hook for 4 weeks now, suggested ball of choice? My throw is left handed. 2 fingers at the moment. Started from second approach line all the way to the right. Still throw it fairly hard. Quite a bit of rotation. So I want a high rg, and for meduim oil lanes. After I did some research, it pointed me towards Purple pearl urethane and Vibe. Both at the moment are not on the market "yet". Any other suggestions? I definitely am gonna try to get the purple pearl.
@@markanthony6758 Well, it depends a lot on what kind of ball motion you seek. If you're looking for something that will be a smooth arc from start to finish, the urethane is a good choice, BUT, it will chew up the lane more than a resin ball. If you're looking for a more "hockey stick" motion (hard snap toward the pins), then a pearl is a good choice. There's also differences, albeit slight, in the coverstock you choose. Pearls tend to go longer than solids, generally. You can also adjust the surface of the ball to change the motion, but you can't make adjustments during competition (league).
There are a lot of factors that can influence ball choice! Best advice - get with a pro shop operator. Check with friends that can give good, solid recommendations. Ideally, the operator will watch you bowl before making any changes.
@@markholland8953 you pretty nailed it head on there. My throws are definitely like a hockey stick. Not sure I'm going to be a smooth arc thrower. I'm just so adapt to my conventional style of throw, I may never get out of the throw it harder and the head pin nearly straight on
@@markanthony6758 Layout and ball surface might be playing a factor in that. If you're primarily using symmetrical pearl balls drilled with the pin near the fingers, you might only see a hockey stick motion.
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Do you have any hi and low numbers for the diffs???
The lowesr differential is 0.000 and typically the highest differential is 0.057. I'd say high is 0.040 and up. Differential is just the difference in the radius of gyration between the axis of stable rotation of the core. This is why a symmetric core has one differential and an assymetric core has two differentials (intermediate differential is the second).
Ничего не понял но очень интересно.
извини, скоро у нас будут субтитры
@@carlosmusso2562 Я даже с русскими субтитрами это RG с трудом улавливаю, надо еще раз посмотреть.
@@TheFLAG2009 хахаха, хорошо, спасибо за просмотр наших видео.
I died a little
This would make sense, till you look at low RG balls that are skid flip. That kinda blows your theory out of the water, doesn't it?
How could a low RG ball be skid flip in its definition?
The motion is still skid-flip, it just does the motion at a different distance down the lane. I have two different pearl balls that are skid flip. One wants to do that at 40 feet (RG: 2.476 verge pearl), another might want to 42 feet (RG: 2.537 Hell raiser return). They have nearly the same Differential for backend motion. The RG of the core (and surface) will determine when it will start the movement.
@@Fejix87 okay, then how do you explain balls with the same RG and differential moving completely differently down the lane? I have balls with the same RG that are completely different in how they move down the lane.
I have a smooth motion high RG and high diff ball, while at the same time having a akid flip one as well. Both move at different lengths on the lane as well.
@@charlieodom9107 cover, layout and sym v asym could explain the difference your seeing
@@davidchamberlain5146 the point here is nothing they said in the video means anything, as those numbers mean absolutely dick. Just because a ball has a certain RG doesn't mean it will move a specific way. Those numbers mean absolutely dick by themselves. It would be like measuring a motor's power level by the amount of cubic inches and piston offset. My little 3.5L V6 makes well over double the power as my 5.7L V8 engine.
@@charlieodom9107 they were just trying to explain the RG and the differential. The path that a ball will actually travel is dependent on a number of other factors as well. The way the ball is laid out can have a big impact on what the actual numbers are, but there’s not enough time in a short video to explain every thing about ball motion.
Why not express the RG and Differential numbers on a ten point scale? It would be so much easier to remember. As it is, it seems that only bowling geeks know this stuff.
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