As a normal MTB rider that is on a cross country team I can confirm all of my team mates except the other regular MTB riders are fast af on the climb and we always pass those Xc riders on the downhill
I am an xc rider. No one passes me on the uphills, no one passes me on the downhills. Good xc riders are actually really good at descending and bike handling since it is extremely important in races.
@@InfectAionhave you seen xc courses recently? They have downhill sections that are more technical in downhill you cant just go straight down like in dh. I rode xc enduro and dh xc is like enduro but you race up and down and the courses are bit slower and more technical
I agree with the OP. In my youth and raced, I lived to climb and was good at it but I was also pretty good at descending, as our practice terrain, legal trails and not so legal trails were pretty technical for their day. Of course, this is in the 90s when when we raced hard tails and shorter front suspension. Not the pillow suspension you guys use today.
@Tom-15 Who said I dont have fun in bikeparks? I'm an XC rider, and I do many other things like downhill and road (i dont compete downhill). These things combined are what makes the difference between a good rider and a professional rider.
I love how all the XC riders are like “you know I’m actually pretty fast on the downhills” but not one “normal mountain biker” is saying anything about riding up the mountain fast😂😂😂
Dude the reason why xc riders shits themselves while going downhill is because xc bikes are faster going uphill and going uphill makes ya slow but going downhill yeah you going faster than a normal bike so be careful
Nah, no way. The “regular” bikers I know are so rapid down hill I can’t even fathom how. They appear to float down over tech most walk over. I’m talking full on mountain descents, not trail. XC would also be useless as its bike on your back job to get up most places.
I’ve made so many positions in xc races by passing people on the climb in the right place. I will admit that there are some downhill sections that me and my 100 mm fork on a bike from 2011 get a little concerned.
Yeah. This is what alot of the mtb community doesn't seem to understand. I've raced a few Enduro stages and the downhill stages we raced on were part of the xc course. So here i am doing what I consider is chunky for an Enduro stage on a 180mm travel bike and then there's the xc guys doing the whole course on way shorter travel than me and on xc tires.
@@core-i7413 yeah ig I just gave a low ball # assuming the avg mtber is about 200lbs or 90kg they'd have to do 600 watts for 5 which is like world class
Yeah idk about that. The modern xc guys seem to never run out of energy and they can ride some pretty tech terrain. There's no way an average trail guy is keeping up on the climb. The trail rider might make some time on the dh section with more suspension but would overall lose. You got to remember, these xc guys are also trail riders. I've met a few expert class (not pro) xc racers that also race Enduro and ride park/dh, but all of then ride trails.
I ride 40 minutes up to the trails mainly uphill then ride lots of trails which are a mix of up and downhill then ride back home. I do this with my neighbour which he is 45 and im 13. 14 in just under a month.
Idk about this. Ive met some xc riders that actually race and they are quick and smooth on the downhill. Its crazy cause they are on short travel bikes and xc tires. Like ever seen nino schurter and his trail riding videos? Got to give the guys respect where its due.
as a mostly roadie, good amount of gravel and occasional mntn biker, I won't choose labels of division. I climb very well but choose discretion on techy downhills. Kudos to those who do things differently.
Mountain biking is a beautiful combination of athleticism and technical maneuvers. If you can't do both of these uphill and downhill disciplines well, are you really a biker?
If I wanted to be in between the two which bike should I purchase an enduro bike ? Dont make fun of me there are no dumb questions I’m new to the sport
I am the 1%, I train to make sure I can shift it going uphill, and I have always just loved flying downhill with only 2 wheels and a frame to keep me in one piece 😂
Exactly why i loved enduro as i used to race xc so its not a problem for me to climb 30km and still be going fast overtaking people and not being tired at all and having the time of my life
On taking Risks: I've chased Polar Bears, been within 6 inches of Arctic Wolves, around black bears, and grew up in ghetto areas of Scarborough, Ontario. I frequently cruise by road bikes in go faster clothes while on a full suspension mountain bike. Training is life. Pain is where we exist. There's no fear of the uphill, that was a good workout right, and no fear of getting hurt on the way down. But then again, that kind of person joins the army, plays with explosives and automatic firearms, while also getting trained in cyberwarfare. What 99% of people don't understand? Eh. Ya'll don't wanna know.
Its often about setup rather than rider. Many cross country bikes are setup to maximize the climb at the expense of the downhill. They tend to have skinnier tires and lighter, more expensive components too. I know a couple cross country guys that seem slow on thier XC bikes, but Absolutely RIP on full suspension bikes.
I love riding uphill it makes me feel alive. If I have to be a bit slower downhill that's chill too cuz it doesn't really matter how fast you go. If it feels scary, it's fun
I skate and ride roadbikes but I recently just started mtb’ing 3-4 years ago and it’s hella difficult and exciting because it’s a totally different element for me. I remember riding the first time just like it was yesterday.
I'm a mix of both XC and regular: I'm slow as fck going up hill AND downhill. The best of both worlds.
Im mid for both
High both, fast up and even faster down.
😂😂😂
Hahahahha
@@V3lk0n same
As a normal mtb rider I can confirm that this is all true
Idk bout the xc downhill stuff. We might be slower
now a normal rider?
As a xc rider: I hate how correct this is.
@@mathiasstielzchen2227 lol
So if I am Normal and XC rider what does that makes me? RR?
...uh... I just ride. I don't need a label.
Your label is...slowpoke!!
It's not that deep it just depends on what bike you ride or prefer to ride
You have literally just given yourself a label. "I'm just for the ride man"
What a load of bollocks.
@@matt7775lol.
Your label is: no humor
As a normal MTB rider that is on a cross country team I can confirm all of my team mates except the other regular MTB riders are fast af on the climb and we always pass those Xc riders on the downhill
I guess you have not met me
@@KrissTheRider I have not
That’s me
Didn't want to agree but I agree 😆
@@darkmaster450 lol
The truth that people don't like to admit is that good XC riders are faster everywhere (obviously other than good downhill or enduro racers).
I am an xc rider. No one passes me on the uphills, no one passes me on the downhills. Good xc riders are actually really good at descending and bike handling since it is extremely important in races.
Oh Yea? 🥴
sure buddy
This man is speaking the truth!
@@InfectAionhave you seen xc courses recently? They have downhill sections that are more technical in downhill you cant just go straight down like in dh. I rode xc enduro and dh xc is like enduro but you race up and down and the courses are bit slower and more technical
I agree with the OP. In my youth and raced, I lived to climb and was good at it but I was also pretty good at descending, as our practice terrain, legal trails and not so legal trails were pretty technical for their day. Of course, this is in the 90s when when we raced hard tails and shorter front suspension. Not the pillow suspension you guys use today.
Then you have the cross country riders who are fast up and crazy fast down
Came here to say this. Why they be passin everyone with only 120mm travel 😂
@YogiTheBearMan because it's not the bike it's the rider buying a 8k trail bike doesn't mean your gonna be as good
Thats me
Isn't that what xc means...
@lukeandliz yes. Pay no attention.
that's why Nino Schurter is hybrid of the two, pure perfection, god-like 😂
People dont accept that,they're jealous that we can climb and they can't, while being able to descent pretty good
@@asher05Nah, you're just looking gay while having way less fun than for example people in the bikepark
@Tom-15 Who said I dont have fun in bikeparks? I'm an XC rider, and I do many other things like downhill and road (i dont compete downhill). These things combined are what makes the difference between a good rider and a professional rider.
@@asher05 so you wanna tell me you are professional?
@@Tom-15gay is when you can only go downhill.
Just ride the darn bike. Hit the jump, go around the jump, climb the hill, bomb the hill, spin to win, mash for cash... just ride the darn thang
Bro rlly said grrrr just ride it grrrrr
Golden comment
Nah fuck climbing the hill, take a chairlift or a gondola, gravity only babyyy
@@mkp1214 I don't care just ride the damn bike you yuppie
@@mkp1214 I don't care, just ride the bike yuppie
The regular riders only think this because they get passed on the uphill and don’t see the xc riders again 🤷♂️
Hell ya! XC for life! 🤙🏻
You hit the nail ob the head
Facts
But a really good XC rider for some reason is just gnarly af
I know some XC riders that will smoke everyone in both directions and do it on 100mm of travel. Fitness and Skill can and DO exist.
I love how all the XC riders are like “you know I’m actually pretty fast on the downhills” but not one “normal mountain biker” is saying anything about riding up the mountain fast😂😂😂
...porque deben subir en automovil, por eso
Xc rider here. I can say that most of the xc racers I know would smoke most “regular” riders up AND down the hill😊
Dude the reason why xc riders shits themselves while going downhill is because xc bikes are faster going uphill and going uphill makes ya slow but going downhill yeah you going faster than a normal bike so be careful
So true lol
Nah, no way. The “regular” bikers I know are so rapid down hill I can’t even fathom how. They appear to float down over tech most walk over. I’m talking full on mountain descents, not trail.
XC would also be useless as its bike on your back job to get up most places.
I’ve made so many positions in xc races by passing people on the climb in the right place. I will admit that there are some downhill sections that me and my 100 mm fork on a bike from 2011 get a little concerned.
My ass riding on the rear tire of my 2004 hardtail lefty Cannondale on the way down a steep hill.
@@SJNrider500 How does a Lefty ride? If seen them and heard a little, but never heard anything from someone who has spent a lot of time on one.
xc riders are the regular mountain bikers
Mountain bikers: I ride twisty trails in the forest
XC: I ride on mountains
(Are Skiiers mountain bikers who forgot the bike?)
I’d like to differ. As a xc racer I do sometimes enjoy the challenge of a good hill, but I sure can shred down one to.
Yeah. This is what alot of the mtb community doesn't seem to understand. I've raced a few Enduro stages and the downhill stages we raced on were part of the xc course. So here i am doing what I consider is chunky for an Enduro stage on a 180mm travel bike and then there's the xc guys doing the whole course on way shorter travel than me and on xc tires.
I started out as an XC, so I surrounded myself with normal riders. They taught me how to go fast on the downhill as well.
Going downhill is the best part
This is hilarious! I’m def a regular rider. And my best riding buddy is an XC rider. Lol
I'm a xc rider, this is hilariously accurate 😂 👌 🔝
i am DEFINATELY a mountain biker. i LOVE the adrenaline rush when i go downhill and jump.
Then there’s trail riders, who keep up with both.
That's me
Keeping up with 6w/kg for 5mins don't think so 💀
@@sugxi 6w/kg for 5 minutes isn't too bad
@@core-i7413 yeah ig I just gave a low ball # assuming the avg mtber is about 200lbs or 90kg they'd have to do 600 watts for 5 which is like world class
Yeah idk about that. The modern xc guys seem to never run out of energy and they can ride some pretty tech terrain. There's no way an average trail guy is keeping up on the climb. The trail rider might make some time on the dh section with more suspension but would overall lose. You got to remember, these xc guys are also trail riders. I've met a few expert class (not pro) xc racers that also race Enduro and ride park/dh, but all of then ride trails.
My legs have explosive power do i can easily go up a steep hill, and im an adrenaline rush so i go down fast as well
this is pretty cringe. XC guys are gnarly
im an xc the problem is that at DH im too exhausted to do whats fun, this is pushing me toward the dark side of emtb
I am regular biker.
Did you see Nino Schurter riding dh? On xc bike...
Yeah, slow af, but I guess good enough for an xc rider
@@leanasf821go do it yourself with and XC bike with the seat up and then come back and tell me how it went
99% of people don't give a F
Gatekeepers gotta gatekeep
youre deff an XC rider lmao
And modern XC course have big drop like a enduro trails...
So XCers improve well....
As an xc rider, I also actually shred downhills, I prefer it over xc style riding but as of now it’s the only type of MTB I have
As an xc rider I can proudly say that I can go both up and down with decent speed
I am xc rider and I can go on the downhill
#notallxc
😅
I am definitely an XC rider because I hate downhill and love uphill
Solution-downhill parks 😁
I ride 40 minutes up to the trails mainly uphill then ride lots of trails which are a mix of up and downhill then ride back home. I do this with my neighbour which he is 45 and im 13. 14 in just under a month.
As an XC rider who used to race downhill and enduro this is not true😂. I made sure my xc bike can handle a downhill because of that
Idk about this. Ive met some xc riders that actually race and they are quick and smooth on the downhill. Its crazy cause they are on short travel bikes and xc tires. Like ever seen nino schurter and his trail riding videos? Got to give the guys respect where its due.
Going up is easy, i rided my bike up a mountain with no roads for 5 years (im uber eats guy)
Jup...i wouldnt say shid myself, but cautious 😁
For a fact im a revolutionary xc biker, yeah i climb fast buutt i love downhills and go on the absolute limit the bike is willing to take❤
I'm regular xc rider
I’m an xc rider because I like climbing (not that I’m good at it I just like it), I wear spandex, and my wheels don’t leave the ground 99% of the time
This example proves it’s
As someone who is a roadie but maybe wants to be an XC rider someday, I can confirm that this is what I would do
'It's not the arrow, it's the Indian.'
as a mostly roadie, good amount of gravel and occasional mntn biker, I won't choose labels of division. I climb very well but choose discretion on techy downhills. Kudos to those who do things differently.
Mountain biking is a beautiful combination of athleticism and technical maneuvers. If you can't do both of these uphill and downhill disciplines well, are you really a biker?
I ride XC and always did. I do admit that downhill is dicey and I slipped more than once but still send it as much as I can
What does xc mean?
Cross country
It means road with dirt.
@@fos3vcf10no it don’t sped
As a XC cycle, I agree that i get shat on every time i go down a hill
Ya mom likes a slow poke
i go absolute flash mode on downhill
Creating stereotypes of riders for content is the dumbest shit.
Xc=strength
Mt biker=skill
This is too true i wish I was both 😂 pls pin
Imagine changing bike between XC and Regular when going uphill and downhill💀
On the uphill i die, on the downhill, i have to pay attention to speed limits
This is so true, my friends are so slow downhill while so fast uphill
If I wanted to be in between the two which bike should I purchase an enduro bike ? Dont make fun of me there are no dumb questions I’m new to the sport
I am the 1%, I train to make sure I can shift it going uphill, and I have always just loved flying downhill with only 2 wheels and a frame to keep me in one piece 😂
I’m a pretty good XC rider and the only reason for that is I hate climbing
I'm an XC-er; the tight lycra shorts define who I am. 😂
what i love is a enduro rider who hits jumps but ALSO speeds up hills.
Exactly why i loved enduro as i used to race xc so its not a problem for me to climb 30km and still be going fast overtaking people and not being tired at all and having the time of my life
I’m near 60 yo XC rider. Clocked 38 mph on a down hill section…….definitely not so fast uphill but can still kick it when I need to.
I’m a bit of both. When I go uphill I enjoy the leg workout, going “fast” and when I go downhill I just listen Kerosene and hope to live another day
On taking Risks: I've chased Polar Bears, been within 6 inches of Arctic Wolves, around black bears, and grew up in ghetto areas of Scarborough, Ontario.
I frequently cruise by road bikes in go faster clothes while on a full suspension mountain bike. Training is life. Pain is where we exist.
There's no fear of the uphill, that was a good workout right, and no fear of getting hurt on the way down.
But then again, that kind of person joins the army, plays with explosives and automatic firearms, while also getting trained in cyberwarfare.
What 99% of people don't understand? Eh. Ya'll don't wanna know.
Its often about setup rather than rider. Many cross country bikes are setup to maximize the climb at the expense of the downhill. They tend to have skinnier tires and lighter, more expensive components too. I know a couple cross country guys that seem slow on thier XC bikes, but Absolutely RIP on full suspension bikes.
Xc riders are all about going fast.They shred the trails downhill and the go like fire uphill.
Im both a XC rider and regular biker, i go fast uphill and downhill
Yeah you beat me by 3 seconds on the down hill, but I rode 12 more miles than you and I never chatted it up in between “features.”
As an XC driver, I have to agree 👍🏼😂
I can confirm that the XC rider would have already climbed 10 more hills by the time I made it to the top of the 1st
I'm a regular biker on an xc bike. I struggle during uphill and shit myself during downhill.
My strange mind when he is talking:
normal bike:👎.....
TURBOFLEX BIKE:🤩🤩😃😃😎😎😎😎👍👍👍
I am xc and only get passed on down hills, but I pass everyone on flats because my bike has 24 gears (3 front, 8 back)
unless you're well-rounded, then you can enjoy both.
i was a normal mtb rider till my first bike park session. now im all in dh 🤣
Okay well the biggest difference is the MTB rider is casual and goes downer hill, the XC(or enduro) rider loves going up hill
I love riding uphill it makes me feel alive. If I have to be a bit slower downhill that's chill too cuz it doesn't really matter how fast you go. If it feels scary, it's fun
As a XC biker, this is 100% true.
I skate and ride roadbikes but I recently just started mtb’ing 3-4 years ago and it’s hella difficult and exciting because it’s a totally different element for me. I remember riding the first time just like it was yesterday.
I'm decent at both. When you live on a giant hill, you sorta NEED to ride to the top to go down again.
Brooo this is so me going uphill sometimes I stop multiple times but going downhill I don’t give a F it’s ON baby!
going uphill builds my leg muscles for the downhill
😂😂😂😂😂😂
HELL I DONT KNOW What Category I Fall into
I Just Try And Survive and Not Come Home Needing Emergency Care ….
"Huh, slowpoke" got me rollin' though...💀
BTW slowpoke is a Pokemon right..
Yes
regular mtn bikers don't ride e-bikes either.
They do now... crybaby.
I send it both ways on my XC mtb. Uphill and downhill
Can’t wait to pop some damn wheelies when I meet you
I'm a mix of both, I go slow uphill and slow downhill
as a random asian failure that plays games all day, i can confirm that im slow on both
For me it's not the bike, it's the rider 🔥
No, the regular rider learns how to actually build muscles when going up hill, and when they are going downhill they go FAST.
As a gravel biker, I do believe this 🫣
"Say Drake, I heard you like them young"
I think Nino Shurter would have something to say about that. The dude is fast both uphill and downhill.
Im a mountain biker and this is…. TRUE ASF
People always need to label things these days. Just ride your bike as much as you can simple
I started in the 90's. I just ride what ever there is. I don't comprehend all the specialties.