PayDay 3 Weapons vs PayDay 2 - Comparison

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  • PayDay 3 vs PayDay 2 - Weapon Comparison / Showcase
    00:00 SIGNATURE 40
    00:28 CHIMANO 8 / STRYK 7
    00:56 CASTIGO 44
    01:25 SIGNATURE SMG / FIK PC9
    01:50 CAR4
    02:22 AK 762 / KU 59
    02:55 M308 / SA A144
    03:30 REINFELD 880
    04:07 MOSCONI 12
    04:49 PIGLET / MARCOM MAMBA
    05:20 CONCUSSION FLASHBANG
    05:47 FRAG GRENADE
    06:13 THROWING KNIFE
    #payday2 #payday3 #allweapons #showcase
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  • @WEAPONSFROMGAMES
    @WEAPONSFROMGAMES  8 месяцев назад +5

    PayDay 3 - All Weapons ruclips.net/video/xgWNSgdlfAc/видео.html
    00:00 SIGNATURE 40
    00:28 CHIMANO 8 / STRYK 7
    00:56 CASTIGO 44
    01:25 SIGNATURE SMG / FIK PC9
    01:50 CAR4
    02:22 AK 762 / KU 59
    02:55 M308 / SA A144
    03:30 REINFELD 880
    04:07 MOSCONI 12
    04:49 PIGLET / MARCOM MAMBA
    05:20 CONCUSSION FLASHBANG
    05:47 FRAG GRENADE
    06:13 THROWING KNIFE

  • @damn78976
    @damn78976 8 месяцев назад +36

    In payday 2 you shoot real weapons, because they feel real and powerful, in payday 3 they feel like airsoft weapons

    • @zombiewolf1671
      @zombiewolf1671 8 месяцев назад +6

      Ngl to you irl weapon have about the same recoil as payday 3 weapons . But im ngl the sounds are a huge L

    • @RM50507
      @RM50507 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@zombiewolf1671okay nerd

    • @soysauce4087
      @soysauce4087 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@RM50507nothing wrong with being a nerd.

  • @TheGililgi
    @TheGililgi 8 месяцев назад +109

    Yes, we can see how much Power the guns are lacking in 3

    • @salazar778
      @salazar778 8 месяцев назад +11

      I can stand the animations, but the sounds? hell no

    • @ElWrobel
      @ElWrobel 8 месяцев назад +13

      They're definitely more realistic in 3, TBH I like that more, many sounds in 2 were overdriven/muddy pieces of shit. And the animations are way better. IMO they only need to up the dBs in 3.

  • @heyitskroza
    @heyitskroza 8 месяцев назад +118

    Reloads are quite a bit worse imo compared to Payday 2, also gun sounds are considerably worse which is disappointing. Graphics are improved but animations overall feel much worse.

    • @tomas1726
      @tomas1726 8 месяцев назад +14

      idk they remind of back 4 blood ones

    • @RainFall800
      @RainFall800 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@tomas1726 because they are the same game engine

    • @dan_loeb
      @dan_loeb 8 месяцев назад +13

      the art style/ direction also feels a bit more generic now. Payday 1 and 2 were somewhat realistic looking, but they had their share of unique material choices and color schemes. this just looks like a modern shooter now. the vibrant shines on the metal and wood of weapons, the bright blue of the gloves, it's gone now. the environments and materials do look better in many ways, just generic.
      It seems like losing so much of the old developers over the past years, who formed machine games and later other veterans formed 10 chambers, simon viklund was the guy who did all the sound design and music for payday 1/2, and he's a core part of 10 chambers now.

    • @Novice0825
      @Novice0825 8 месяцев назад +4

      I disagree about the reload animations being worse. In fact, I only saw a couple in this video that I could even try to make arguments for being worse. I also disagree about animations overall. I do, however, like the ‘style’ of weapon sounds in Payday 2. Not sure I’d be able to say one is better or not.

    • @RoseSupreme
      @RoseSupreme 8 месяцев назад +8

      I disagree.
      Not a fan of the early 2010s CS:S mod swaying of PD2.

  • @Mateoski97
    @Mateoski97 8 месяцев назад +56

    How PD2 manages to do a better job than it's successor is beyond me.

    • @salazar778
      @salazar778 8 месяцев назад +3

      happens all the time tbh

    • @catboyrepublican2520
      @catboyrepublican2520 5 месяцев назад +2

      Payday 2's viewmodel animators (only ones I know the names of are Kopter and Niphen Niphen) left the company in/around 2017-2018. You could tell because in Payday 2 the animations for weapons released after that period all used recycled animations, or new animations that were noticeably worse. Whoever's animating the weapons now has improved a lot since then, though.

  • @bigguy42_
    @bigguy42_ 8 месяцев назад +41

    I like almost all of the payday 3 reloads a lot, except for he new AK, that looks garbage 💀💀💀

  • @yohoho2012
    @yohoho2012 8 месяцев назад +55

    in PayDay 2 the sound is metal, and in PayDay 3 the sound is plastic, as if all the weapons have silencers, as if they were toy

    • @ethiuseximius7403
      @ethiuseximius7403 8 месяцев назад +3

      lol yes

    • @A.jmmmm04
      @A.jmmmm04 8 месяцев назад +1

      Also, in payday 2 the damage is very weak and awful, but in payday 3 the damage of the gums are pretty good, I really don't get why both games can't have both good damage and good weapon sounds yk

    • @racheltome5805
      @racheltome5805 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@A.jmmmm04With pd2 you can install mode that makes it better
      same with pd3 lol

    • @ethiuseximius7403
      @ethiuseximius7403 8 месяцев назад

      @@A.jmmmm04 wtf are you talking about it takes 2 bullets to kill someone in pd2 and 10 in payday 3

  • @Jayalen
    @Jayalen 8 месяцев назад +15

    They just need to make the gun sounds beefier in 3

  • @user-dx9oy1tr6r
    @user-dx9oy1tr6r 8 месяцев назад +51

    Not fan of Payday games, but 2nd part really has better animations and sounds.. yet in 3rd devs finally added +1 round in the chamber and much better ammo count on HUD. (total ammo changes only after reload)

    • @armintor2826
      @armintor2826 8 месяцев назад +3

      Honestly the ammo counter changing per round fired, imo, worked really well with Payday's gameplay loop as then you didnt have to reload to have ammo missing from your pool meaning you can replenish it via ammo boxes that cops drop much faster. Definitely helped bunches with LMGs

    • @user-dx9oy1tr6r
      @user-dx9oy1tr6r 8 месяцев назад

      @@armintor2826 well yes, that's true too. But why devs by default used weird aim sights in LMGs? Again downloading mods, huh

    • @thuytrangoan2508
      @thuytrangoan2508 8 месяцев назад

      To be honest, Payday 2 is really more goofy and cartoonist than PD3. From the masks to the skills and stuff. You should give PD2 a try cuz it's good game you know.

    • @user-dx9oy1tr6r
      @user-dx9oy1tr6r 8 месяцев назад

      @@thuytrangoan2508 I played 18 hours in steam, not interested.

  • @eduardosanchezbarrios5810
    @eduardosanchezbarrios5810 8 месяцев назад +28

    Payday 2 still looking very good

  • @orionriftclan2727
    @orionriftclan2727 8 месяцев назад +29

    6th
    The guns in payday 2 are much more puncher then in 3

    • @eduardosanchezbarrios5810
      @eduardosanchezbarrios5810 8 месяцев назад

      Agree

    • @mrjayden17
      @mrjayden17 8 месяцев назад +3

      yeah and the animations were so good from 2012

    • @orionriftclan2727
      @orionriftclan2727 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@mrjayden17 Honestly even with the spaghetti code that was payday 2, still probably one of the best games out there

  • @NovidProkteps
    @NovidProkteps 8 месяцев назад +43

    They made all the weapons in payday 3 seem way too casual, like you weren't in an intense situation. The incredible lack of recoil also makes the guns feel weak as hell by comparison.

    • @EcchiRevenge
      @EcchiRevenge 8 месяцев назад +5

      1:40

    • @user-tl3fv5ub6e
      @user-tl3fv5ub6e 8 месяцев назад +4

      Seriously? Payday3 looks like COD wannabe. Payday 2 is the casual looking one. The recoil part for sure, but saying payday 3 seems way too casual is just false.

    • @NovidProkteps
      @NovidProkteps 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@user-tl3fv5ub6e I mean they just seem weak and they don't have the impression of stress and intensity. They are goofy and out of place.

    • @user-tl3fv5ub6e
      @user-tl3fv5ub6e 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@NovidProkteps But being goofy has always been a part of Payday’s identity.
      I understand though, it doesn’t look as good as in Payday 2.
      Tbf payday 2 looks like they’re in a range test firing.

    • @joec5680
      @joec5680 8 месяцев назад +8

      TBH, PD2s animations also don’t display intensity in a situation at all. They are very casual and methodical. They are much more comparable to that of Insurgency Sandstorm’s than ones that actually display rush and tension, like Modern Warfare for example.
      I like PD2s more still but I don’t understand this argument.

  • @nachdruck.
    @nachdruck. 8 месяцев назад +13

    the impact, the sound and the animations are pretty much a downgrade

  • @omukade4431
    @omukade4431 8 месяцев назад +8

    to be honest the only thing pd3 did better is the graphics.

  • @Arka11389
    @Arka11389 8 месяцев назад +8

    Me gusta que trataron de hacer mas rápidas las recargas sin necesidad de hacer una animación a la que le pusieron efecto de velocidad. Aunque me gusten mas los efectos de payday 3, siento que las armas de payday 2 se oyen mejor, el único buen sonido es el de la escopeta

  • @DontFearTheMist
    @DontFearTheMist 8 месяцев назад +42

    AK reload animation from hell 😵‍💫

    • @ethiuseximius7403
      @ethiuseximius7403 8 месяцев назад +8

      it's so bad

    • @ditboi3736
      @ditboi3736 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@ethiuseximius7403 the reload looks like an angry old woman reloaded it.

    • @posstaldude
      @posstaldude 8 месяцев назад

      @@ditboi3736 in the end its a 10 year old game 🥸

    • @armintor2826
      @armintor2826 8 месяцев назад

      Its so twitchy

    • @Sturmbohnen
      @Sturmbohnen Месяц назад

      The charging handle only goes halfway back, literal cringe and low-IQ animators

  • @anura7601
    @anura7601 8 месяцев назад +4

    We have gotten so far, now the ammo counter for ammo that isnt in the magazine doesn't go down.

  • @xelusprime
    @xelusprime 8 месяцев назад +39

    What I really like about the Payday 2 animations, minimal camera shake when reloading, that and it feels more realistic than the more "cartoonish" vibe from 3. Never played any of these games though, likely never will.

    • @salazar778
      @salazar778 8 месяцев назад +2

      but pd2 is awesome, a one of a kind tbh give it a try

    • @l.m.l8598
      @l.m.l8598 8 месяцев назад +8

      give payday 2 a try bro
      and payday 2 is infinitely more cartoonish than than payday 3 dunno watchu talking about

  • @91vadel
    @91vadel 8 месяцев назад +14

    Payday 2 FTW. Animations and sounds are on point 👌

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 8 месяцев назад +1

      Both have bad sounds lol

    • @TokenMCPE
      @TokenMCPE 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@M0D776
      PD2 sounds decent
      PD3 lacks power

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@TokenMCPE I've always disliked PAYDAY's gun sounds, they all sound samey, like, most pistols, smgs, rifles, etc all sound the same, wet sounding sounds

    • @TokenMCPE
      @TokenMCPE 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@M0D776 Fair point, you're entitled to your own opinion

  • @Monkesmell91
    @Monkesmell91 8 месяцев назад +2

    Payday 2 is the gold standard of reload animations

  • @WindowsDoor
    @WindowsDoor 8 месяцев назад +7

    Too bad they fucked up the AMCAR legacy

  • @piety666
    @piety666 8 месяцев назад +12

    The feeling of shooting in PD3 is 10 times worse than in PD 2

  • @tobiashull1781
    @tobiashull1781 8 месяцев назад +8

    Pd3, dog💩, unsatisfying reloads, and is it just me or do the guns all sound the same

  • @vysenshark
    @vysenshark 8 месяцев назад +2

    You can very clearly see the effect MW19's weapon animations took on the game lol, shame because Payday 2 had such smooth and unique animations.

    • @RM50507
      @RM50507 7 месяцев назад

      Animator probably found an better place, starbreeze sucks at customer service, slowly they was making payday 2 cheaper and cheaper

  • @EcchiRevenge
    @EcchiRevenge 8 месяцев назад +9

    3rd one is better at everything except sound, for some reason gunfire(only from players) got weirdly mixed to be low volume.

    • @dsago6828
      @dsago6828 8 месяцев назад +4

      I’d say so for everything but the AK, those animations look very rough

    • @EcchiRevenge
      @EcchiRevenge 8 месяцев назад

      @@dsago6828 AK animation just went full retard because it had an extra "tug" animation after loading mag in.
      Also, AK model being so detailed makes the lack of drainage hole under handguard very hilarious.

  • @joemarmar
    @joemarmar 8 месяцев назад

    bro tryna break the world record of throwing ak mags

  • @yuuexe1
    @yuuexe1 8 месяцев назад

    The mosconi 12g classic reload in pd3 is fire

  • @October8426
    @October8426 8 месяцев назад +14

    I actually like Payday 3’s new take on reloads. Payday 2’s animations are definitely nice but they always felt kinda weightless and floaty.

    • @booyaboibob
      @booyaboibob 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, tho the guns are kinda lacking the shooting power feel. It feels, ironiclly, to light and soft.

    • @October8426
      @October8426 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, that’s a good point. While I might like the reloads better, I can agree that payday 3 lacks good powerful gun sounds.

    • @plushiepenguin
      @plushiepenguin 7 месяцев назад +2

      I feel the opposite here. The handling at times feel airsoft-y to me in PD3. Especially with the AK and pistols. AK's mag just flies into the stratosphere and looks as if the charging handle only gets pulled halfway. There are others like the MP7 looks like it's carried like a machine pistol despite weighing like a PDW and it's inexplicably slapped like an MP5 when reloading.

    • @October8426
      @October8426 7 месяцев назад +1

      It could be that they aren’t polished yet. Payday 3 is really buggy right now and so was Payday 2 at launch. Oh and a lot of games use air soft guns for reference but I don’t know if payday does as well.

    • @RM50507
      @RM50507 7 месяцев назад +2

      No, payday 2 have better weight effects
      Stiffness doesn’t mean weight, but the drag making the gun move a bit when character try to stop it

  • @hmpang4996
    @hmpang4996 8 месяцев назад +6

    this guy probably waited hours to get into a private lobby in payday 3! 💀

  • @rapidshot3033
    @rapidshot3033 8 месяцев назад

    I liked some of Pd2 goofy aspects to 3
    Like anti armor ammo against shields 😄

  • @plushiepenguin
    @plushiepenguin 7 месяцев назад

    Shouldn't the Scar-H and Crosskill/1911 be included here? Yeah the PD3 "crosskill" isn't the same weapon but theyre close enough for a comparison being in the same family imo.

  • @deluxeonyoutube2973
    @deluxeonyoutube2973 8 месяцев назад +2

    Animators in payday 3 be working minimum wage istg

  • @kaydee66781
    @kaydee66781 8 месяцев назад +3

    Getting serious Back 4 Blood vibes in terms of how “snappy” the reload is and how weak the guns sound.
    Not to shit on Unreal or anything, but what is it with shooter games made in Unreal having weak-ass gun sounds?

    • @Crystal-pi7fm
      @Crystal-pi7fm 8 месяцев назад +2

      Insurgency Sandstorm is on Unreal 4 and has one of the best soundscapes in my opinion
      But yeah, that is a strangely common occurance

    • @October8426
      @October8426 8 месяцев назад

      I went back and locked at the back for blood animations. The animations are definitely not of bad as that game.

  • @spran369
    @spran369 8 месяцев назад +1

    Payday 2's guns feel more powerful and the sounds are more realistic, however in Payday 3 the reloading animations and ammo count are much better than Payday 2.

  • @ElMatadorro
    @ElMatadorro 8 месяцев назад +1

    PD3 animations are mostly better (mostly, the AK one fucking sucks), but damn, PD2 has far better sounds and just the right amount of camera shake to make the guns feel beefy. They really need a big audio update as soon as possible in 3.

  • @jankesowski6481
    @jankesowski6481 8 месяцев назад +1

    Animations from pd3 could use more screenshake. They just don't feel powerful.

    • @donovanjoseph737
      @donovanjoseph737 8 месяцев назад

      I think people would complain if they added more screenshake, since that’s a common complaint with COD reloads. What I think they need is more urgency in the animation itself to add more life to it.

  • @gaijingazzagaming5314
    @gaijingazzagaming5314 5 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds in 2 are mostly better than 3.

  • @LateNightHalo
    @LateNightHalo 2 месяца назад

    Tbh it’s not the gun animations, it’s the lack of screen shake and recoil

  • @kiyanjamali7172
    @kiyanjamali7172 8 месяцев назад

    One caterogy of weapons in payday 2 is more than the whole payday 3 weaponry

  • @DigitaliumPT
    @DigitaliumPT 8 месяцев назад

    i got the marcom mamba but i dont know how to use one primary or secundary gun

  • @GiantAnaconda
    @GiantAnaconda 8 месяцев назад +6

    Payday 3 is a downgrade compared to Payday 2

    • @sinnombre__
      @sinnombre__ 8 месяцев назад +2

      Live service bud. The true Payday 3 will launch in like 8 months.

    • @Ghstkng123
      @Ghstkng123 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@sinnombre__doesn't excuse from being a bad live service game

  • @actuallybeanis
    @actuallybeanis 8 месяцев назад +4

    Probably a controversial opinion: I could care less about the sound design difference, I love the new recoil and feel of the guns.. but the KU 59 reload is wack 😎

  • @Bloodhurl67
    @Bloodhurl67 8 месяцев назад

    How in the fuck does the Renfield's pump manage to sound louder than the shot itself in 3?? 2 actually does it correctly where the shot is LOUDER than the pump.

  • @user-yu4ue1bl1p
    @user-yu4ue1bl1p 8 месяцев назад

    wtf happened to the firing sounds and that akm reload lmao

  • @sinnombre__
    @sinnombre__ 8 месяцев назад

    Before more hate comments show up. REMEMBER! This game is a LIVE SERVICE GAME. Dont know what it means? Ill explain it for ya.
    game: pre-alpha, alpha, beta, finished game
    Live service: pre-alpha, alpha, beta, launch beta, post-beta, finished game
    If you want a live service game that is actually full of content, you need to buy the game >1 year after its been released. Its just how it works people!

    • @donovanjoseph737
      @donovanjoseph737 8 месяцев назад

      That has nothing to to with poor sound design. The Finals had their closed betas, and those were some of the best sounding guns in a video game I have ever heard.

    • @Drm13883
      @Drm13883 8 месяцев назад

      Fuck life service games

  • @RdB_v2
    @RdB_v2 7 месяцев назад

    I swear people here dont know how the real guns sound like

  • @phuongan4328
    @phuongan4328 8 месяцев назад

    The dev forgot this are payday not cod

  • @thechugg4372
    @thechugg4372 7 месяцев назад

    Love the reloads in payday 2 but the firing in payday 3 feels better, there's actual recoil being felt, but the reloads in 3 are a bit too much like CoD

  • @FightCain
    @FightCain 8 месяцев назад +1

    There’s really no kick in payday 3

  • @aragen6771
    @aragen6771 8 месяцев назад +3

    payday 3 weapons sound weak compared to payday 2

  • @sylescjacovitz6785
    @sylescjacovitz6785 8 месяцев назад

    Yes finally

  • @DogZeela
    @DogZeela 8 месяцев назад +1

    Why is the 44 revolver less powerful than the 2011 ??

    • @anotherone3815
      @anotherone3815 8 месяцев назад +2

      it's also bad to kill cops

    • @tangerinepaint3643
      @tangerinepaint3643 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@anotherone3815 cops don’t have pagers in stealth so I think you mean guards.

    • @donovanjoseph737
      @donovanjoseph737 8 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠@@anotherone3815it takes TWO headshots to kill a cop with regular armor. I don’t give a piss about edge, if your revolver doesn’t kill a regular enemy in one shot without a buff, you failed

  • @Krejii05
    @Krejii05 7 месяцев назад

    Payday 3 suffers from MW Syndrome, where they think MW is the most realistic interpretation of weapons and everything in MW is what every game that comes out needs to be a 1-1 replica of

  • @ghostmarine1520
    @ghostmarine1520 8 месяцев назад

    Online only, well Instantly skipped return to payday 2

  • @FohzNA
    @FohzNA 8 месяцев назад

    i wish the animator in payday 3 found a job in COD headquarters instead

  • @scratchypack8549
    @scratchypack8549 8 месяцев назад

    Payday 3 is like shooting airsoft guns

  • @damanndaman0735
    @damanndaman0735 8 месяцев назад

    Quantity Instead of quality..

  • @padraigpearse1551
    @padraigpearse1551 8 месяцев назад +1

    Does payday 3 do anything better than 2? Genuine question

    • @WindowsDoor
      @WindowsDoor 8 месяцев назад +16

      PD3 stealth is more complex I think than PD2 Stealth

    • @RainFall800
      @RainFall800 8 месяцев назад +14

      graphics, movement, enemy difficulty tweak and yea thats about it sadly

    • @ethiuseximius7403
      @ethiuseximius7403 8 месяцев назад +1

      engine

    • @neonknight6373
      @neonknight6373 8 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely graphics

    • @twixtechtweaks
      @twixtechtweaks 8 месяцев назад +5

      Tf guys are you talking about, PAYDAY 3's grapchics are step backward from PD2. It has no style like PDTH (cinematographic) or PD2 (photorealistic) had.

  • @StarkRaven59
    @StarkRaven59 8 месяцев назад

    Payday 2 at least has the advantage of being mostly animated by the same guy(s) through these, and have consistent pacing. Not too fast, very readable movement. Payday 3 is wildly inconsistent in its movements and speeds. Some guns are moderately paced, like the Signature 40. By immediate comparison, the Stryk is a bit fast, snappy and wild. Then you get whatever the name is for the AK, and oh god is that a mess of fast movements with no readability.

  • @Paper323
    @Paper323 8 месяцев назад +1

    The sounds and animations in Payday 3 are pathetic compared to Payday 2.

  • @wowanimejoshua5149
    @wowanimejoshua5149 8 месяцев назад

    Payday 3's guns sound and look weak

  • @gordonfreeman9733
    @gordonfreeman9733 8 месяцев назад

    Stopped watching after 3 mins. Pure disgrace. 2nd is far ahead in everything except graphics. Which means it is 80% better than 3rd.

  • @jacobleake5252
    @jacobleake5252 8 месяцев назад +3

    I ain't wanna hear anyone saying payday 3 isn't a half baked shit show after seeing this

    • @StarkRaven59
      @StarkRaven59 8 месяцев назад

      Pretty sure the animations were improved in Payday 2 since release. While Payday 3 might be a shitshow, 2 has had a decade to refine things.

    • @ahta5708
      @ahta5708 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@StarkRaven59animations don't get improved, they get replaced. And no matter when it got replaced it's still wasn't made in 2023 and also wasn't made in the unity engine instead of a 2 decades old racing game engine

    • @October8426
      @October8426 8 месяцев назад

      I wanna know what’s got this man so on edge.

  • @zqidx
    @zqidx 8 месяцев назад +1

    contrary to popular opinion, i actually like payday 3's sounds and animations better

  • @KarlHensen
    @KarlHensen 8 месяцев назад

    Payday 3 pee pee shooting gun like call of duty MW2, shame

  • @hoppinggnomethe4154
    @hoppinggnomethe4154 8 месяцев назад

    Both got bad gun sounds and reload animations. But Payday 2 ftw because Payday 3's devs shot their own foot.

    • @Napsta115
      @Napsta115 8 месяцев назад +18

      Payday 2(and some of the 3) animations are very good wdym

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 8 месяцев назад +1

      I can agree with the sounds, but ain't no way you really think all the animations shown sucked lol

  • @ZaMonolith1986
    @ZaMonolith1986 8 месяцев назад

    payday 3 sounds awful, like cap guns lol