Arriflex 16ST Overview & Test Film Shoot | Kodak Vision 2 50D 7201 | Arri 16S | Filmboy24
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2022
- The Arri 16S/T is an absolutely beautiful workhorse 16mm movie camera. Despite its drawbacks, it takes beautiful pictures and is capable of several upgrades, including crystal sync motors and periscope viewfinders. Let me know what you think.
16mm Camera: Arriflex 16ST
Film: Kodak Vision2 50D (7201)
Processing: Home Brew ECN-2
Scan: MovieStuff RetroScan Universal Mark 1 (2K)
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Outstanding Mike! You are such a wealth of information and just love your delivery..Can’t wait to see your new Retroscan Mark II video👍👍
Thanks so much!! I appreciate it, as always!!
Wow! Someday I’ll get an arri.
Oh Boy. Lot of Memories. I have shot with these cameras in the 90s. Shooting on 7293 16mm film was great. Thanks for the upload.
Thanks, BG!! Such a fun camera to shoot!!
This footage is very sharp and clear especially for 16mm i love the flashy look
Thank you!!
I love the frame mounted!
Nice camera. Thanks, I have been waiting for you to do a more in depth overview of the Arriflex. Very informative.
Thank you, Cecil!!
Great review of that camera. Beautiful footage! Rock steady! Content on this channel is A++++. ;)
Thank you so much!!!
The footage looks great. Great video as always!
Thanks so much!!
Well done again Miguel. Nice film and camera..
Thanks, Pop!!
Hi I liked your informative video on the Arri 16S camera. I never had an Arriflex but knew fellow cameramen who shot film with an Arri BL. Arri cameras always had a good reputation. A+
Thank you, Lloyd!! I absolutely love Arriflex cameras. I'd love to have an Arri 16BL, have wanted one for quite a while. One of these days 😀
The footage looks fantastic. A really enjoyable video including the camera walkthrough. I imagine it is a bulky thing to be out in the field with. I filmed some motorsport a couple of years back, superbike racing, using a Sony FS7 and thought it was heavy but that Arri might give me a hernia!
Thank you!! You know, I can't imagine running around with this thing in the field. Like you said, it's tough enough with some of today's modern 4K cameras. And to top it off, these had to be carried off the shoulder, out in front of you...nope!!
@@Filmboy24 I love that camera 🎥
Awesome video
Thank you!!
I've been seriously considering picking up that movie Mike. And maybe even a mug as well! Excellent video as usual! - Steven (formerly Film & Photography Forever)
Thanks, Steven!! I'm digging the new channel name, didn't notice until just now, looks great!!
Yes I got the film (shipped to the UK here) and thoroughly enjoyed it
@@super8blog71 Thanks so much for supporting that little film!! It's not for everyone but it really did get me going in my never-ending quest to shoot a feature in super-8 but never did 🤣
I always enjoy watching 16mm. It seeems a lot steadier than than S8. Those are great cameras but I've only used one once a long time ago to help a friend while living in CA.
Thanks, Barry!!
I'm currently shooting features with these old Schneider lenses. My favorite look in a lens I've ever used.
Definitely great glass!!
ARRICAM STUDIO & ARRI ALEXA + Carl Zeiss Primes.
Oh cool can I send my films to you now? Lol. Congratulations on the scanner!
Lol, you know, one of these days I'll probably offer some basic services 😄
I just read a book about a BBC sponsored British expedition that travelled across Zanzibar and Tanganyika (now Tanzania) in a 3 person hydrogen balloon in the early 1960's featuring an Arriflex camera ( see A. Smith, "Throw out Two Hands" , George Allen & Unwin, (1963) ). The appendix to the book mentioned the camera initially used 8-volt Varley batteries that proved 'spillable and heavy' until one of the cameramen improvised his own battery constructed of electronic flash unit cells, each with 3 floating balls to show the state of charge, embedded in foam rubber and encased in a small metal box that clipped onto the waistband of his trousers. The battery was chargeable from the Land Rover battery via a 12 volt stepdown built in series. They carried a range of 11 lenses for this camera: a 12.5mm Taylor Hobson lens; 40mm, 90 mm, 150mm, 300mm Kilfitt Kilar lenses; as well as 240mm and 400mm Novoflex lenses with follow-focus pistol grips. The film stock (courtesy of the BBC) consisted of 24,000 feet of Eastman Plus-X 16 mm negative film in 100 foot rolls; 24,000 feet of the same in 400 foot rolls; and 12,000 feet of Eastman Tri-X 16mm negative film. The sound recording was done on a Ficord midget tape-recorder.
That's interesting stuff, thanks for sharing!
Hi Mike, Well done, thank you. In reference to 15:21(the shutter left open just as the camera is stopped) have you looked through while the camera had actually been going along at 24 fps ? It should have some "self capping action" somewhat like windshield wipers when just turned off and going back down in place. It probably works ok otherwise it would give you a real black frame at the end of a sequence. I had tried a Super-8 Leicina once, and discovered, much to my surprise, several of these black frames. I returned it quickly and opted for a Nizo.. I love that Arri !
Thank you, Roland!! Yes, I often have to rotate the motor advance by hand between shots in order to move the shutter blade. I’ve gotten quite used to doing it since this video. I really do love this little camera.
Thank you
My pleasure!!
Thanks Mike- kindly had one question: at 22:20 where you attached the magazine and the motor ran. If the motor runs but the magazine attached doesn’t is that an issue? It spins below but, but not just the attached magazine.
@@lloydfoster6679 Yes, that would be an issue. Make sure you have a torque motor attached to the side of the magazine. A few of these Arri torque motors were converted to 12V also, so if you're using an 8.4V battery pack, that could also be an issue, although it seems it would at least move it a little.
Great video. I'm saving my pennies and, perhaps, one of my kidneys, for the quiet Arriflex 16mm.
Thanks, Frank!! You know, if you ever end up picking up one of those "fancy" quiet Arriflex cameras, I may have to make a trip to your neck of the woods 😉
I like the look of your footage and I like the flicker because it adds a vintage feel. That said though, footage from a serviced Arri S does not flicker like that. Something is wrong. It could be a camera light leak or something in your workflow.
Thanks!!
The 16mm footage taken with Vision 2 looks like it was taken in early 20th century.
My unforgettable life and everyday TV experience of the seventies. Arriflex 16BL, and ST , Bolex 16mm, Eclair 16 with Angenieux Zoom and Zeiss prime lenses were later replaced by portable camcorders U-Matic and Betacam. How does it compare to the iPhone today or 4K devices?
The good ole days!! I'm probably the wrong person to ask about comparing, as I'm so biased toward film. I don't think there's any comparison at all 😀
Is it possible to cover it to a PL mount ? Ty for the great video
Thanks, Aaron!
I know it's been done before but I'm not sure who does it now. I know you can buy Arri Standard mount to PL mount adapters though.
Hello!! Great video. Is it posible to make a super 16 conversion to the Arriflex 16 st? I heard that if you want to do the conversion, you have to change the mirror too
Thank you, Manuel!! Pretty sure Super 16 conversions are/were possible with the Arri 16S, however they are quite expensive (at least a couple thousand dollars). I really don’t know who does them any longer though.
Would this have been a suitable camera for photographing traditional animation (cels) on 16mm back in the 1960s?
Hey Kyle, probably not unless there was an animation motor added, as these cameras do not shoot single frame natively.
Does the 12v charger not cause issues with overcharging the 8.4v battery pack?
I use a charger that’s designed for 6-12v at 1 or 2 amps, no problems at all, as it self regulates.
What do you do for the maintenance?
Very few info about it on the Arri manual or website, except for sending it to Arri 🥴
There’s a couple of holes where to drop some oil but not sure if that’s enough. Also, would you have any lead to where to find a spare rubber boot? Mine is dead (I fixed it with a zip lock..very McGyvery…but that works)
Beautiful camera, looove the Arriflex🤘🏻
That's a great question. Thus far I haven't really done much of anything as far as maintenance as it runs beautifully. I did completely tear apart the magazine and torque motor (every screw) and clean/re-lube everything. I'm a DIY guy, so I'd have a hard time sending my camera to anyone else but I know that's risky. I have read several articles about Arri 16S/T maintenance that have been very helpful in my "less than stellar" understanding of the intricacies of these things. Here's a great read on a basic tear-down/maintain: cinetinker.blogspot.com/2019/
Here's a guy that was an Arri tech at NYU for years, going over some things he created for the Arri S (look toward the bottom, you'll see the kit he made for replacing the rubber boot): cinetinker.blogspot.com/2019/
On my first Arri 16S, several years ago, I put some heat shrink tubing on the ball shaft of the motor to grip the failing rubber. Quick fix but not permanent.
It's all still pretty much a learning process for me but I'm having so much fun along the way!!
@@Filmboy24 Houuu, I love those links! Thx!
Greetings from Calcutta, India. The footage reminded me of a Tagore poem🙏🙏🙏🙏. Will definitely shoot on movie film someday. Thank you Mike!! Stay well and stay safe.
Hi Jaydip, thank you so much for watching and for your kind words!! Be well my friend!
So how easy is it to load for example compared to a Bolex?
Good question, Bart. I'd say, having loaded both quite a few times now, they're very comparable. I will say this, once you get the hang of it, it's really not hard at all.
Great video, great footage! Here is German pronunciation 101, lesson one 😂😂😂😂 Richter = rish tah, Kreuznach = kroits nah (the final H is soft, airy and throaty, think Dutch Lite). Hope this helps.
Thank you for the lesson, Christian!! I figured I was butchering that great language, just wasn't sure how bad 🤣
@@Filmboy24 nah, no offense taken at all 😂 just don't go for Hollywood German. I guess the French are more offended by Americans trying to pronounce Angenieux or Beaulieu haha 😆😂! PS. Your ARRI 16 S is excellent. Pin sharp and rock steady images. From what I gathered they were all (in hindsight) called ST in Germany, after the BL an M came out, to distinguish them. ST stands for standard and was not the original name. It was just the 16. S is what these are called in the US. I'm pretty sure about that. It's confusing.
@@truefilm6991 Don't even get me started on trying to pronounce Beaulieu and Angenieux, LOL!
Yes, the labeling of the Arri-S is a bit confusing. I've read so many conflicting reports over the years. Mine does actually have the "ST" mark before the serial number, so I guess I'm going by that for now 😉. I am so overjoyed with this camera's results that I'm actually considering sending some of my film to a lab for proper processing 🤣🤣.
@@Filmboy24 Awsome! Looking forward to that!
@@truefilm6991 Not confusing: In Germany the Arriflex 16 S is known only as 16 ST. That is the original name given by ARRI factory in 1952. Overseas cameras became 16 S and 16 SB (for the bayonet version). In Germany 16 S is not known by anyone. Within 50 years I have never ever heard some saying "Arriflex 16 S" here in Germany. And 16 SB: What camera is that?
Im getting this camera from a local seller for about $200, if I can arrange the money and they're giving the other version of the 500 feet mag, with a tripod and one zoom lens without cap and no other lenses, but thankfully, 2 caps for the slots and MAYBE NOT the cover for the built in compartment, because the photos show the 500ft mag attached and they sell what we see in the photos. I'll email you the pictures they sent and tomorrow, they'll send a video, running the camera and Ill get to know what power cable they're giving and what voltage.
If I do get this camera, I might contact you if I need anything for it, if I could buy it off you, like your homemade battery compartment/charger and anything else I need and if you're selling the accessories.
Now it comes with the regular motor, so no crystal sync, unless I can buy the CSync from you or if you know who to contact, considering my location in South Asia
I thought I am alone in this world loving old mechanical Cameras till I found your cannel (just by chance)! And hearing that you look for compendium - I have two and would give away one for you! because it was fitted to a military used Arri 16 St ( by the way - the St stands for the German word "stumm" meaning "mute") it is not black but in sort of green. Therefore I would give it to you for free (except the posting costs from Europe). I only don't know how to get in contact to get your address. Hope to hear from you.
Meinhard
Thanks so much for your offer, I'm responding to your email now!
Can you help me. I got three schneider lenses. Only one is facing the ft measurements on the white dot on the camera’s mount. The others all face m. How do I mount them so that they all face ft. There is only one way to mount them on the turret. Hope you can help.
Hey there, that's a tricky one. I'd have to see it to understand exactly what's going on.