Skip The Inspection, Pay The Price: Holmes Transforms Millennial Bungalow | Holmes Inspection S201
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GETTING MIKE TO WORK OR EVEN LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY IS LIKE WINNING THE LOTTERY. THEY DON’T MAKE CONTRACTORS LIKE HIM ANYMORE.
does he still do work
He is a big-mouthed fool. Like many contractors, he knows very little but intimidates people by saying al lot of nonsense. He is a total idiot thinking that a home inspector would have caught any of these things. HOME INSPECTORS ARE USELESS.
@@randomrazryes he does stuff on HGTV
You need to win lottery first to pay Mike😂
😂 😂 ….. you are right @@amgooder
Stuff like this should be taught in high school, as a basic life skill. Because we all need to know about this stuff.
Its such a sweet little house. I see why she loves it. I would. I love the brick, the curved arch between the living room and dining room. The cabinets in the kitchen. I'm 60 yrs old, I like "charm".😊
It used to be. Right up until about the late '80s, all of this was taught. At least the basics. But then it got pitched for "safety" reasons...actually, money reasons. This stuff's expensive to get materials and tools for, which means it's an expensive class to maintain in our current highly-administered but strangely cash-strapped school system.
Let's be honest here the Schoolsystem in most Countrys is utter dogshit you learn crap that you never need EVER instead of learning how to do your taxes how to spot small problems in your Home that if fixed right away prevent them from becoming life altering disasters.
If the Schoolingsystem would teach taxes and basic construction knowledge like structur, plumbing and electrical the world would be turned upside down cause all those con artists would lose their minds since they can't fool anyone anymore.
We built a 6 x 3 exterior wall frame section, wired a switch & outlet, and built & installed a vent. In junior high.
Truth.
I graduated in 1990 and took 2 years of carpentry at a vocational school. Plus I took industrial arts in middle school. My mom still has the clock I made out of 3/4 cherry in 8th grade in industrial arts. They need to bring back those kinds of classes along with home economics.
I used to love watching Homes on Homes on sky tv years ago seeing Mike and his team undo bad workmanships cockups!
Man they did SO MUCH in this house… you can tell this is a later episode because we aren’t even seeing the installation of the shower kit, or showing the ESA inspected the electrical panel, none of that! 😱 The grading & basement tear-up took most of the air time and with good reason! Geez ow❣️
I always wonder if the neighbors take notes, and look at their own homes with a fresh eye.
Like they could afford it.
Do you think everyone is a bunch of poors or something?@@Ooshwink82
Oh my gosh! I cried like watching the movie Bambi. I am so happy for her and just overwhelmed by your work. Holmes you and crew are so incredible.
A dirt bike and a sports bike? Yeah she's definitely a keeper!
OMG, I had forgotten about Nichole, she's a keeper as well!
My first thought at her introduction: "A real-like Peppermint Patty (from Peanuts)!"
8 minutes into the episode, and the impression is only stronger.
So all the water issues actually were a "good thing" for once. The issues led Mike finding out that the house was riddled with Asbestos and that can get fixed before it becomes a health risk to the homeowner
Asbestos, when left fully alone, is not a risk. It is only when it is allowed to break into its fibres that it can cause mesothelioma or silicosis if inhaled. Only asbestos used outside, such as in old vinyl siding, is considered an imminent risk because UV will break down the vinyl over time, which releases the fibres. If you don't have to touch it, it is safe.
ETA: that vermiculite in the ceiling should be removed ASAP as well
This is what unlimited budget looks like
Based on Mike's other videos on Making It Right in almost every occasion the homeowner did get a home inspection but they were all pis-poor so making someone feel more guilt is pretty bad. Home Inspectors should be certified and licensed!! and there should be a law that people can put a lien on them when they screw up.
In some of his newer videos they talk about it. But like any skilled trade, experience in the field is key. There are so many fly by night certification programs that just rubber stamp applicants. Remember too, that home inspections are a fairly new thing in the terms of construction/ real estate. In my area it's really only been the last 30 years or so. And it's still up to the buyer to set that up and pay for it. So the adage buyer beware still applies. And the young lady admits that she should have gotten one. Lessons learned.
@@denisegaylord382
I wonder how long it would take for a certified electrician to get a comprehensive picture of a house's electrical fitness, or lack there of?
@@danielasuncion9991 I don't know. But the electricians that I see on Mike's shows all appear to be master electricians. So with that surmised skill set, he seems to be able to diagnose a home, and its electrical woes fairly quickly. I can't imagine more than a day in total. Many times he just takes the cover off the electric panel box, and instantly knows how bad it is. If you watch, many times they are able to diagram the whole house in a fairly short time.
@@denisegaylord382
Mike, himself, seems to be quite knowledgeable about electrical. He's able to communicate effectively with the electrician. But, even Mike doesn't know everything!
@@denisegaylord382
I watched the behind the scenes of how the show is made:
🧭 I think that they should FOCUS on one house at a time, with no set deadline for finishing. There are always issues uncovered, as they go, so set deadlines are too stressful for them, and mean unusually long hours, even for construction work. Fatigue could lead to a bad accident.
🧭🧭 The principles of combat photography should be used: the camera operator films what they can, when they can. No retakes. No making a worker do the same action, over and over, again.
🧭🧭🧭 This way, one house might require more than one episode, but it would be less stressful for Mike and his workers. They wouldn't have to work crazy hours in order to make a fixed reveal time.
mike is so educated and a smart man, and knows his job well, an expert and he dosent miss or over look anything, nothing gets past him, wish he would feature shawn more often on the new episodes, just saying
I feel for the young lady. My daughter just bought a home so I am sharing these videos gradually trying not to overwhelm her.
I don't blame her for crying her eyes out 😭 but Mike and crew are going to bring tears of happiness to her that young lady 💐 deserves a better home 🏡 to live in
I do, she chose to skip an inspection, her fault, full stop.
all that work, wouyld it have been cheaper to demo the whole house and build new?
@@randomrazr it depends on what the price per square footage would be for them to do that for her
@@randomrazr Yep. Bulldoze that kok sucka!
Wow if that is all being paid for by the network, then not having a home inspector was the best decision she ever made.
Awesome home with the current standards. I'm sure best home in her neighborhood. They did Make it Right! I'm happy for this beautiful lady. Hugs 🤗😘😎🙏
in her defense, nearly every other episode of this show is one where the home inspector missed everything. point being, they all end up with mike rebuilding nearly the entire house, lol
True😂🔥🔥🔥🤯🤯
That’s what I was thinking…in many cases the homebuyers report is not worth the paper it’s written on 😬😩😣
The homeowner pays for the rebuild.
We don't know how many houses he visits that are fine, or need just a little work. That's not entertaining. They only make episodes out of the worst ones.
The inspectors that miss stuff are probably the ones paid for by the seller. You always have to get your own inspector, never let the seller do it.
I love this girl. She should be on the show.
I love watching Mike Holmes clips because Mike and his team can always make it right, just like it should have been done the first time.
Same. It's too many DIY people on television that has no idea what they are doing, and are most of the times doing it in a bad way. There are too many DIY who don't have the good enough of knowledge that can explain the issues with the homes and if they are trying to explain it they don't do animations. That's annoys me alot. Most likely they are DIY and don't know why they are doing the things they are doing, or shouldn't be on television that can give other people bad solution in a bad problem and could make the first problem even worse. I have been seeing so many quick fix on television. It's scary.
It's seems like Mike after codes of the country his location, he knows what he is doing and most of the times he seeing the problems with once. I have till now for the stop watching renovation because the DIY programs, but he actually explains why the result are when they are looking into it for the first time and gives us actually more knowledge about how the things should be doing right way, and that gives me some inspiration. And when the are errors most of the time he is also given us the viewers a animation how thing could fall apart, or anything else instead of just explain it. That's gives the viewer most more memorable reason why they are doing things the way they are doing it.
Something else is that Mike is honest about when he is don't get things to add up, ask the right question or if the right question isn't correct either, he is finding some extra rooms or other troubles that gives more question too answered and when the questions has been answered they are repair it in the correct way. Love it!
I wish we had another version of you here in Norway, Mike.
Very well done! Excellent work! If I had to redo a house, I would call Mike! (I build in reinforced concrete, walls, floors, all radiant heat, very quiet house, 12' ceilings, 4' hallways, commercial-grade electrical, 200 Amps service, solid doors, 3-4 car garage, etc.)
The lessons Mike Holmes taught me:
1. If you're going to do potentially major work on your home, know what you're doing, and if you don't know what you're doing, hire a professional.
2. Professionals like contractors and inspectors have an ethical (perhaps not legal) responsibility to inform the homeowner what the problem is, what must be done, etc., and whether out of greed or desperation, they should never take advantage of the general ignorance of those who aren't in the industry.
3. There is no shortage of con artists who are more than happy to make a quick buck off of a desperate homeowner or buyer.
I'll add to your first point. "1. If you're going to do potentially major work on your home, know what you're doing, and if you don't know what you're doing, hire a professional and budget at least twice what you've originally planned to spend."
@@TLM-Nathan Also be very cautious about paying anything in advance. The number of episodes that start with some one hiring a contractor that took the money and ran is so sad.
I would even go so far to say hire some kind of home inspector after the job to ensure the contractor did everything properly and up to code.
Mike is the best he never cuts corners
My high school Auto Shop teacher, John Owens, back in 1976 taught us to ''Do it right the first time because you never know IF you'll get the chance to do it right again." That was rule One, rule Two was, the best tool you have are your eyes!
I stopped crying years ago. Mike and his crew seriously have my eyes watering right now. I really believe in good people and trades workers because of this! Awesome!
This should be shown to all potential home buyers. House looked fairly good.. Boy, oh, boy was it not
Years and years of being a house flipper's dream by the looks of it. Lot of surface paint jobs, and other quick fix works to cover up issues. I swear the number one thing I would never trust in a home is a converted basement. Every house flipper loves to do that to raise the value/square footage of a house. But it's one of the easiest patch jobs they do that can go horribly wrong.
FINALLY A NEW EPISODE
It looked like there was something like between $100k to $150k of work done to the house by the time they got done. I wonder how much she paid for the place to begin with. As an owner being faced with something like that I could see an owner just packing up and walking away from the building taking the hit to their credit rating. Wow another fantastic job by the Holmes crew.
Those were exactly the numbers I calculated in my head while watching. I couldn't imagine putting that much money into a tiny house.
My folks had a house exactly like that with many of the same issues. Nice job!
Some of this stuff is blown out of proportion. The vermiculite won't hurt you if left undisturbed, same with asbestos tile
That house looks absolutely beautiful now!
Wow! Great to have "completed" perfectly! BRAVO!!!
Mike gets the plaque and the thanks the real workers get the blisters !😬
Enjoy watching your show and your crew. As an owner of a electrical company and plumbing company in upstate New York. I walk into a lot of homes that did not have home inspections at sale and I find a lot of things wrong and I address it with the homeowner they don't always like it to hear the bad news but my name's on it and the last person there at time I feel an obligation to let the homeowner know and I'll say 7 out of 10 times I get the contract to do said repairs. I actually took a home inspectors course cause I thought about becoming an home inspector but I find it more fun and exciting to do the repairs then to take pictures and fill out reports.
Mike fell in love for just a brief moment when she mentioned her bikes 😂
Even with an inspection not everything will be found. For example, the Inspector found that the 2 year old new roof was never sealed and one vent didn't have a boot/sleeve (or whatever it's called). The inspector did not find all the electrical issues in the walls, or that the furnace was about to die, or that there was water damage under the crappy vinyl plank, and never mentioned that the plumbing pipe in the crawl space was probably going to need replacing and the shut-off didn't work. Still, ALWAYS have an inspection and seriously consider paying extra to have your sewer lines videotaped. If you have a septic system, then definitely get that inspected because if it needs replacing, it's major. Fortunately, my house was built in 1990, so I didn't have an asbestos worry, but if you're buying an older home that was built when asbestos products were used, pay to have it inspected for asbestos or pay $20,000 (or more) to have the asbestos removed. Seems worth the inspection!
I’m sure it’s been said before but Damon should definitely have his own show!
Damon did leave and went to work (in charge of) family construction company.
I started crying 20 mins in and couldn't stop. Calling 1800 seekhelp
I bet some of the neighbors hate that their new neighbor has motorcycles.I bet the neighbors hate the commotion of all the workers. But the really smart neighbors must be really really jealous that Mike Holmes and crew just worked on a house in their neighborhood. And after his crew is done. That house will be the safest house in the whole neighborhood.
I don’t believe I have ever seen so much work done to one home, wow
I cried with her. So glad she had Mike. Can't even imagine the cost of this.
Mike you Sir will be always the Man,a fine group and family as well,keep up the good work.
As a contractor I can tell you most of these issues can be corrected for a fraction of the cost, and these things dont need to be completely removed to correct them either. All flash for the show...
The sellers knew thetr was asbestos in this house. Thats why they only accepted her offer AFTER she took the inspection out of it. Even if it had been inspected, they would have missed it. They wouldn't have looked under the insulation. And tiles were covered. I think most inspectors are in the realtors pockets anyway. This girl was in a no win situation. Its actually a blessing that the foundation leaked or she could have lived there for years with it... Possibly breathing in the particulates in the attic.
to be honest, the tile floors would be just fine if not for the water issues. i had similar tile in my basement right on the concrete slab. i installed a plastic barrier, underlayment then a floating floor. problem solved. the attic is the real issue, but only if you mess with it, which they have to to add venting. i missed if the plaster contained any.
@@feelingtardythey didn’t mention it, so I assumed it was negative. I’m glad they redid the pipes and duct as well… Lead/asbestos pipes, lead soldering, lead/arsenic paint, and other issues could’ve been present as well
plaster can have it?@@feelingtardy
@@randomrazr absolutely. i think they used it until the 1980's in some places.
If you are going to be financing the purchase, have your bank recommend an inspector. That way they are working in the best interest of the realtors. Plus, the bank will want a good assessment of the property they are investing in.
I hope one day I can get Mike to build me a house 🤞🏽
I understand there was a lot of work that needed to be done, things needed to be changed, and although the work was as always top tier and top notch, I feel they ruined the look of the home. The stucco is out of place for the neighborhood and time period of the house. If it was in a southwest region, stucco would been a great choice and would have fit in just about any neighborhood, but here it just doesn’t seem to fit. I’m always amazed the homeowner did not want some sort of cover over the front or back entry. Unlocking your doors in the rain sucks
I came for the home repair, but stayed for the motorcycles :-) I want to see the bikes lol
Just watched one yesterday that had an inspection, Mike took the whole house down and built a new one.
They almost rebuilt half the house and the cost was possibly at least half of what she paid for the house. Most of the issues were not visible in their magnitude without destructive investigation, which a home inspector would not have done. Many issues were covered up by renovations, possibly on purpose. Even for the homebuyer it took months for the issues to manifest. She was truly blessed to be selected for a Holmes episode.
It’s not a free rebuild. The homeowner has to pay.
@@joanoflondon if you listen to some of the interviews with Holmes you will find out that the production budget included much of the money needed for the renovations "to make it right", additionally some of the companies donate services or products and on occasion Holmes has spent his own money. Therefore the homeowners pay very little, if anything.
On the very old Holmes on Homes shows you can see that their budget was much more limited, while on the more recent shows they had a generous budget that allowed them to do some things that went beyond the essentials, but made for good television.
Being my family member applied to be considered for the new season, the cost was greater than she could afford.
mike damon great team work a pleasure to watch experts in their field
Mike Holmes ur the best. Love ur shows. Damon is amazing. As is the crew. Should be some kind of general contractor school, so they at least know what to look for and why. Then they can hire the right people to fix these problems. I know there r trade schools, but generals and inspectors need the schools. When u get a driving ticket it’s a requirement go to driving school for so many hours…. Some form of overall house health should be available before can get a contractors license. Better yet educate home owners
Almost every episode has “ we need do dig up the foundation because the the basement is flooding”. In my country, we build our houses on piles rather than in a hole.
Neighbors be looking at their own foundations walls like "dang."
All that work probably cost more than the original house price. OUCH Well done, guys
So happy for this gal.
So many times you show that home inspectors miss major problems. There’s no guarantee that a home inspection would have caught that.
It's getting to the point where people should stop buying Older homes for that reason
Quality of home inspectors a problem and there is no accountability. Also a problem
No one in their right mind would offer a guarantee that they’ll catch things, but a qualified inspector offers reasonable assurance that they took industry approved steps to inspect the major problem errors. As a homebuyer, I look to minimize and/or mitigate risks.
@@javaskull88 in quebec, the owner had to guarantee apparently. it's the law here
This was extraordinary craftspersonship, team work and clever planning to help this lady out. Wow! A healthier home to boot!🍁
You have to make sure you get a good home inspector because some take the job seriously and they will find things that are wrong, but others are only doing a quick look to get their money and they don't catch anything.
He is a really really good contractor, he nos his work
I felt pitiful for this poor lady. Thank God that Mike and his team chose to help her. 🙏
With respect..
Unbelievable...
God Bless..
Might have been cheaper to just raze the house and start over again.
If there's anything I've learned from watching my parents buy and sell 5 different houses in the last 4 years, and watching this show... is that inspectors are a waste of time.
95% of them wouldn't have Caught any of the problems in this house, guaranteed. Or would have cared enough to say something.
So many big issues in some of my parents houses the inspector missed that I ended up having to fix for them. Do the inspection yourself and save the money and time wasted on those jokers.
at that point, might as well go and do the inspection courses yourself
Would be wrong of me to ask who pays for the repairs? Seems to me these repairs had to cost as much as the house
I enjoy this show, but Mike does exaggerate items.
1) asbestos in tile underneath another flooring system poses a very low risk, especially if the tile is n good condition (not friable).
2) the vermiculite insulation, they didn’t say if it tested positive, but assuming it is, the EPA recommends leaving it alone and not disturbing it. I applaud them for safely removing it, but it was not needed.
3) the big thing to learn from this video is to be incredibly skeptical of any home with a finished basement. The older the home the more likely their is water leaking into the basement. It is also very rare that a basement conversion was done the correct way with exterior water sealing.
4) obviously you should get a home inspection from a third party who doesn’t have a relationship with local realtors. The realtors do not want home inspection to stop home sales, so if they have a strong relationship with the realtor they’re more likely to not look for items that would scuttle the sale.
I’m not anti the show or Mike, but it is a show ad they obviously want to make it look like every home is about to fall and am extreme health hazard.
If you watched the episode, you'd know the reason the attic was removed was because they needed to run vents, which would disturb the material. The tile was separating from the floor and needed removed regardless.
God bless him and his wife and his family and friends and his crewmembers sincerely Shannon
Wow , they did a great work on this little house.
I wonder how much it costs ?
More than she paid I am guessing!
One thing bothers me about this show. I would like to know, as I have an older home: what of the work they are doing is REQUIRED and what is just "done for the show"? Does the asbestos NEED to be removed with a solid floor already built? Wiring NEED to be replaced? Does it NEED the stucco on the outside all over (frankly I loved the brick)? We have homes here in Vermont with 100+ year old brick and mortar in fine shape! So many "problems" - were there other solutions? They just go above and beyond what is NEEDED, nit telling us the difference, and leave us worried and wondering.
Asbestos only needs to be remediated if it is friable (loose into the air). The vermiculite in the attic probably needed to come out. The floor tile in the basement needed to come out as it was coming up off the floor. The tile upstairs is a maybe as it was covered by other flooring. If you rip it out to that level, then yes. Wiring depends on its condition. As much gutting as was done, it might have to be done to bring up to code. I would not have done 'stucco'. That is NOT real stucco.
As much as I ADORE brick, with Canadian winters, the house really needed proper insulation, and adding the "stucco" to the outside was a viable way to do that. My parents had it done to an old home that had real stucco for the same reason.
Fantastic and such a gift of security for her!
Speaking of security, I can't believe she keeps her bikes in such a flimsy shed.
Makes you wonder if it would be cheaper to tear it down and rebuild.
Loved this one!
Beautiful Job 😍
Really really really good job.
Wow, the original owner knew what was in the house
Why do we not know that inspectors really work for realtors. Crazy.
At around 29:00 I got the feeling: would building a new hose from scratch be cheaper?
Hire an inspector seems like a good idea except every episode where they did that the inspector missed some serious issues.
exactly. You're doomed if you do and doomed if you don't.
I'd say better off getting one just make sure he's a good one. Even good ones miss things every once in awhile. At least getting one you can find out some of the issues. Buying and old house like this without an inspection is like buying it blind.
@@snoop4470 Yeah i guess if you have enough money to not care it works but i have feeling most home buyers do not have that.
I am convinced the previous homeowner and real estate people knew about the problems. They didn't want to get caught.
Who ultimately foots the cost of the repairs done to the house?
i think its split between the homeowners and the fact its a show cause the sheer amount of work they do aint cheap, which is prob why a lot of homes are in a mess they cant afford to do some things right
I love that they put in a sub floor oh but it is molded and the sub floor is asbestos so we have to rip it up. Ok Mike. so where did the love go?
Sweet baby Jesus and the Shepherds! Almost should have knocked it down and rebuilt it from the ground up.
Would have been cheaper to knock down and rebuild. My rough estimate would be $600 K to do all of the above at commercial rates.
I don’t like all that foam and stucco. Bring back the brick,it brought character to the house and now that’s been lost
The house was a disaster, be happy that someone wanted to correct the mess. Should have bulldozed and rebuilt, may have been cheaper. You would think the father would have guided her prior to buying.
Congoleum tiles, very popular in those days.
I love Mike Holmes and his awesome son!!
Hey Mike Holmes!, what I was taught was everything is completed with the house and the last final step, Grading and Drainage!👍👍✌️
Why not reuse the cold room? Good for storage of sealed foods and beverages.
From huge misfortune to jackpot.
I say "misfortune," because I don’t think homebuyers shoukd be blamed for not being experts in homebuilding. Sure, she should've had an inspection, but we as a society should also have basic protections for this sort of understandable misfortune AND accountability for the people who harm others with negligence and malfeasance.
(TS) 22:38 damn them some big ears 👂🏻 cauliflower🥊. Should of called Ryan aka EASY MONEY for the driveway.
I dare spectulate the renovations Holmes did to this place were worth 3 times the original price of the house.
The only thing I can think after seeing her face is poor kid. Thank God Mike is there!
I wonder if Mike was ever able to close the deal.
I absolutely love the “powertool porno shots” … slow motion closeups with detritus flying off whatever material is being fondled. 😳😂😂😉
I wish Mike came to Florida, he’d have a field day 😎
So happy for this young lady, not sure when this episode aired, but hopefully she’s got all the happiness she deserved n this house.
I have found even if you get a home inspection before you buy the inspector misses a lot of issues. I have found I can do most of the inspection myself just as good. look at everything in that house very carefully and go in the attic and basement and outside and do the same.
I'm guessing $200K US.
Dayuuuuuuum she cute ❤❤❤❤❤
-100% up to Mark😊😊grath job Mike
This is great but to do a complete retrofit like this in Canada today would cost you well over $100,000.
We've had some of these repairs done to our 1950s home, so I have a pretty idea.
With that $100k make sure you know your contractors as well as 90% will cut corners to just get the money out of you.
Lots of people in this country are going to have to get used to their musty asbestos layden homes.
How do people afford to do the repairs that Holmes do?
Mike, I know you're in Canada but I really need help. I live in Ohio. Bought a house 2 years ago. It's an older house but since I moved in I've had multiple issues. Small septic tank that over fills with drainage water, flooded yard that smells like sewage, bedroom floor collapsed because the floor joists had rusted nails and no joist hangers. Floors are all wavy, toilet stack is cracked, no insulation in walls or ceiling, no ground wire on electrical plugs, old windows that leak water when it rains, shallow crawl space, no furnace only wall mount propane heaters. In the garage all the sill plates and studs are rotted out, garage is leaning, concrete is cracked and crumbly, old style ceramic fuses in garage, no ground plugs, ceiling is sagging, garage door has 2" cracks on both sides, too low to get my van into.
I know I should have gotten an inspection but that was a condition of the cash only sale. I did take my dad and an Amish contractor to look at the place but they both agreed that it was a good investment. I bought what I could afford and now I'm living in a house that's crumbling. There has to be something you can do to help me. I'm not married, 54 yrs old and disabled. no kids except my 2 GSDs. They love the fenced in half acre but the yard is so muddy right now that when they come inside they are caked with mud. The mud creates dust and I breathe it in. Since it smells like sewage I don't know what I'm breathing in. I have to wear a CPAP at night and I have to change the filter once every 2-3 days. Please Mike, I need help and don't know where to turn. Some have suggested tearing the house down and starting over but I don't have any money to do that.
The total.cost surely overcomes the value of a new house
Ok, seriously. It seem as as though they just go in and rebuild the entire house! I have to think that quite a few of the projects weren’t really needed. I,m all for making it better and safe, but some of it is just doing it to do it!
Mike the hero again. I f I could be so lucky. Just the few things I did $18,000 so far. House 1972 slab with brick veneer.