Canik Comparison Test TTI Combat Vs Rival Vs Rival-S Vs METE SF
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- 0:00 Canik Speed Control Experiment
0:31 Concept
1:40 Canik METE SF w/ Shield RMSC
2:53 Canik Rival w/ MeCanik M01
4:03 Canik Rival-S w/ Viridian RFX35
5:03 Canik TTI Combat w/ MeCanik M03
6:10 Conclusion
8:08 Thank YOU Patrons!
More on the TTI COmbat: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
More on the METE SF: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-mete-sf
More on the Rival-S: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-rival-s-full-review
More on the Rival: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-sfx-rival-dark-side
What timing!! Making a decision on the Rival Vs Rival S this week. I can easily afford (because I'm old) the TTI but I'm a cheap penny pinching coot who can shoot the cheapest guns just fine and I've had Canicks since they were $299 and they've been great! Thank you brother.
if youre not opposed to payments, there are lots of options out there nowadays that offer zero interest if paid over 4 months making the tti fairly reasonable at 250 a month for 4 months
@@stufoo I used to be (20 years ago), the king, and then the slave of monthly payments. I had little self control (It was kinda like a crack habit). If I can't pay it with paper it's staying on the shelf. And no, I've never smoked crack. Stay safe!!
TTI Combat is incomparable! It cost the same if not cheaper then the s. I've had 6 Caniks in the last year and nothing compares to it! I have the same set up with the MO3 which I also believe is incredible especially for the money! B the closest thing it compared to in my opinion is the SRO and you can get 3 MO3s for one SRO!
This is the video of the year! Can't believe it came so soon.
Haha, thank you. Time will tell. I wanted results to be raw and not what I personally have spent the most time with . The test wasn't perfect, but I hope it helps give some idea.
@@gbgunsmedia Life is not perfect. You gave real life examples with this comparison, that's the main beauty of this video.
Perfect thanks for this review. Exactly what I was pondering. 👍
Great review! I am waiting on my TTI, I have all the Canik models. Love them!!
Great video! ❤️ Thanks for all the information! Definitely love the Canik combat more now... JS ❤️
Another Exc video - THANKS. While anxiously waiting for you to upload, I was able to run a number of Bill Drills w my Rival S and friends TTI. Bottom line, the S was a bit faster w much tighter A zone hits. Ill bet if you compare them again w/o the S' trigger freeze, the heavy gun will come out on top. Thanks again !
Great video, I’ve been looking at getting both the TTI and the Steel frame.
The Rival S performed the best. Physics wins at the end of the day
What do you mean by "performed the best"?
@@gbgunsmedia tightest groupings, easiest to shoot
Waiting for the Rival S TTI “MOR-Combat”
Physics claims TTI combat performs the best.
@celphalonred1999 lol, comps don't defy physics. A 30 Oz gun with a comp still won't outperform a 40z gun. Slapping a comp on a hellcat won't make it shoot better than a glock 17
Thanks for this. I was having a hard time choosing. You made it easy.
Thank you so much great job
What a great comparison video! Now.....we just need the Canik TTI Combat S.....(anyone tried to put the TTI Slide on the Rival S frame yet?)
Exactly. Should have been that from the start with the TTI collaboration. I'll wait...
It doesn’t fit
Thank you for sharing this video.
This is the video what I liked thanks for your effort.
Thank you
Im writing this comment before watching, this is the video I think we all need. A lot of people cutting videos saying how great it is, and Im sure its great, but not really comparing it to the other Canik models. I have heard from actual users that the its not as good as the Rival in the recoil. I look at the small port/comp, love the ease of disassembly but it looks really small, I wonder how effective it really is.
Now that you've watched the video what are your thoughts?
@@gbgunsmedia Well I dont thinks its quite fair to compare it to the 3lb Rival S, the weight simply outperforms the comp on the TTI as far as control/grouping, even though the times were a little slower on the S due to the hesitation,. Tough to beat a heavy gun. Maybe if it was a regular stock S, no brass anchors lol. I think the regular Rival held its own against the TTI, groping looked overall better because of the two TTI flyers, but the TTI had a few that were touching which could mean better results if they were ran again. Times faster on the TTI, so it does add performance, I can see that. Is it enough to explain the price difference? Makes me wonder what an aftermarket comp would do on the threaded barrel of the Rival. I have an Xmacro and and P10c with Herrigniton comps that I love. I would think a real external comp might outperform it, what do you think?
Great comparison. I shoot both polymer and steel rivals at monthly IDPA. I’m faster with poly but score better with steel. Because of weight rule I can’t add those beautiful brass Lok Grips. Thank you for the insight of Canik pistol accuracy.
I miss the Megadeth: Dawn Patrol intro… I’ve been watching for a while haha
Good video thanks! I want to get into the TTI hype, but the Rival S weight is so compelling for this full size range/comp style gun. If folks are carrying these enjoy, but they are not something I'm intending to tote around. Given the intended purpose I want to go with the heavier weight with additional options like taylor freelance and Lok to add even more so I'm going doing the Rival S route, and glad everyone else is moving on to the TTI so maybe I can find the Rival S chrome for MSRP or nearly that low in few more months. Be well sir.
Thanks as always for the content! I think you may have answered why you chose the Mete SF and not the Mete SFX but was curious about that. Reason being, the barrel and slide are closer to the comped TTI . Thanks!
Yes, I posted a slide mass and length comparison in the TTI full review: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
@@gbgunsmedia Thank you again my friend👍🏻
1st time watcher here and i thoroughly enjoyed the way you tested these. Really mad now i bought the rival sfx 2days ago.
Thank you and welcome to the second channel! I think you'll be happy with the Rival; it's a great all-purpose gun.
I like them all can’t wait to get a TTI
I think you’d be surprised at how much faster you could have run the bull target in the head. After you get used to the dot you’ll be able to start reacting to color instead of waiting for a stable”ish” dot to appear where you want it. Good video man. I’m super tempted by a rival s.
Yes, if these were guns I had spent more time with, or even done some famiiliarization shots first I could have been much faster. With my carry guns my splits get down to 0.14s, but I wanted this to be a demosntration of raw gun effect rather than how well or how much I've trained with one over the other.
The Rival S had the tightest groups, but I’m not mad at the time the TTI Combat had. I need the TTI Combat in Steel. You should run this video back with irons only.
Thanks great comparison Steel and TTI WIN
Wish Canik would make a .40 cal.
Thanks for an excellent video
They do, unfortunately it wasn’t released in America
That Rival S with the brass grips! Wow! What a nice upper grouping on it.
Heavy gun didn't move much under recoil, making it easy to get back on target.
Got the Rival-S Chrome, waiting on the TTi Combat
Nice shooting there Tex! The all steel weapon for the wealon at the cist if weight, but if want tscticool, but shooting better there's the compromise. Not idead for conceal carry, but can be done with woredrobe adjustments.
Can you tell me what footprint the TTI Combat has? I'm trying to find an optic adapter for an Acro/Steiner red dot. I have a TTII Combat coming in and I want to slap a Steiner optic on there as quick as possible but I can't find any information on where to get a plate for the optic.
The TTI COmbat comes with three plates, but not an Acro plate.
I felt YOU were more comfortable and smoother with the all steel. It just may be mental, but you knew the weight would be great, shot placement was so much better, even though the splits were the average same. I think the TT will sell well because of name association and price, great marketing be Canik and Taran. But you just made me want to look at the steel version, thanks for the breakdown
I think shot placement may have been the result of my personal preference of the green dot. I could see it quicker.
I hope the TTI will come out in an S version
I ordered a TTI combat it comes in on the 8th
Does the Mecanik M01 fit on the TTi??? Because I just ordered it
You mentioned you're in Oregon, where did you find this firearm? Im in WA and trying to find it. Although i may wait and see if they come out with a black version.
I always link to sources. See pinned comment.
Great comparison! Obviously the Rival S being the steadiest because of the weight. Not the fastest, but perhaps had you tried the best out of 3 tries each, that might have been different. The true test is what will the gun be used for? Everyday carry or competition? Different choices for different uses, but the TTI performed spectacularly across the board (even with pollen) and is the clear leader. Not surprisingly since its heritage is from Taran Tactical.
Yes, the RIval-S kinda just laid in my hands, it also had my personal preference of dot on it.
It’s very hard to make any real fair comparison when you have different red dots and a pistol with the heavier brass wrap adding to stability. What I would be interested in knowing is about the red dots. I am considering getting the TTI Combat but mot familiar with either the MeCanik MO3 vs. the Viridian RFX35 Green. Please tell me a bit about each and which would you recommend? Would your recommend any other red dot sight for the TTI Combat ? Depending on your feedback I might buy the TTI Combat without a sight and choose another sight.
Thank you.
MeCanik M03 information is at the end of this gun review: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
Viridian information is here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/pistol-optic-selection-viridian
Ultimately it's a matter or personal preference, but I like Viridian's options (except the RFX11) for glass quality and a green dot that really grabs my eye.
@@gbgunsmedia thank you. I will try to get and see the choices offered by Viridian.
I wished you would have the combat elite in there.
Do you think canik will come out with a TYI S?
Wouldn't that be sweet?
Tough call... they all seem to be relatively close in performance. TTI definitely performed "fastest" but looking at the overall I think the Rivals were stiff competition and I think I would be inclined to call it a tie with the TTI based on groups. But the TTI is the new hotness. ;-)
Since both trace back to the Walther P99, how would you compare the Caniks against the Walther PDP?
I've have and have shot them both, I prefer the Canik
I want to get a canik rival s. however, keep hearing about all the magazine issues. your thoughts?
I can't recall any magazine issues, but I'm also not one to unnecesarrily smack magazines when I insert them. I push it in until it clicks, it's that simple to avoid over-insertion.
The only magazine issues I've ever had with any mags was from the Canik MC9. I've ran Canik at all but one training course over 5 years.
Go for door # 3
Rival-S
High weight and big size rocks.
Yes, iron plain sights would be best. No excuses about polen,rain, dust, low batteries , adjustments. 👀
Can you put the TTI slide on the rival??
Problem with the tti is that it wont be legal in ipsc production devision due to its barrell being ported
Thanks for the video sir! Anyone that doesn't want their coin hollar at me! My wife collects coins and wants 2. lol
Curious, will the TTI top fit on the steel frame?
No, I made an Instagram post about that because so many were asking.
What ammo did you use on that ported barrel TTi combat ?
Same ammo for all four guns, weak Fiocchi 9AP
@@gbgunsmedia lots of ammo say NOT to use with ported OR twisted barrels, thats why i ask.
I use Blazer and Monarch
Blazer says not to use in ported barrels
Monarch says not to use in twisted barrels
This TTi Combat is both so i cant use either one.
I was looking to get the TTI, but the comp just doesn't seem to comp as much as I'd want. So, I got the rival S. And let me help anyone trying to decide. For now, you can't get a TTI at the same price as the S. And the S is a flat shooter. Definitely not going to feel the recoil impulse of the TTI. To further help, make sure you get the version that includes the optic and the magwell. And don't pay more than $1k!
Wondering if the TTI combat slide will run on Rival S frame 🤔
It does not work. First thing I tried when I got the TTI the other day.
shot a tighter group with the rival with threaded barrel than the TTI 😂 might just keep my rival she's upgraded too lol
In your opinion, is the TTI combat really a that big of a difference/worth buying another pistol just because its the latest for someone who already owns a SFX Rival for the average gun owner with limited budget??
That's ultimately up to you and your needs. Can it possibly help the average shooter shoot quicker? Yes. Is it better than spending $1k on some quality training? I don't think any gun is better than quality training. On the main channel you've seen me shoot quickly and accurately with all sorts of guns from $200 to over $4000. While some guns make it easier to do that, it's the 50+ days of training I've spent at various schools and courses that have enabled me to do that.
@@gbgunsmedia Great advice, would love to see a dedicated video about training and the biggest takeaways you learned from the experience that helped you the most. Also where we can find similar training courses on our own. Thanks again great answer
Can you put the TTI upper on the Rival steel frame?
I made an IG post about that
No. It won’t function.
How would you compare the rival s to the Excalibur CO?
Although both competition oriented. The Rival isn assembly-line striker fired gun and X-Calibur is a fitted hammer-fired gun. They do the same job, but the spirit is different. Both are very comfortable, very accurate, and easy to shoot well. I lean towards the X-Cal but that's probably becuse I've had a lot more trigger time with a Grand Power and prefer the crisper hammer-fired trigger.
Will the TTI upper fit on the steel frame?
No unfortunately.
this is the third video of yours I have watched and I am wondering why you do not turn on the delay in your Pact timer -- you just say it does not have one, which I believe they all do (at least the 2 I have do) ?
I haven't needed it yet. I don't care about time to first shot as this wasn't a draw-to-shot drill, I was looking to test recoil management among the guns.
A better comparison for the TTI Combat would be the METE SFT Pro. That’s what I want to see, if the TTI is worth the additional price tag or not
"worth" is up to you, but have you read the full review?
@@gbgunsmedia fair enough, I have not. Where can it be found?
I have the Rival Darkside and see nothing here to make me change. 😊
Let's get ready to Ruuuuuuuummmmbbbllleee
Kinda chomping at the bit to get the TTI combat.
They should be out next week. I hav elinked to some sources here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
I pre ordered on myself. I can't wait!!
A lot are
I can't find them
@texicano_fxdls3411 not out yet it goes on sale monday!
That’s the only thing I don’t like about my rival. The slide mass is like a bowling ball hitting pins every time u pull the trigger. They need to redesign the slides they would shoot a lot better and flatter.
Here's a comparison of slide mass: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
I would like to see the Mete SFT or SFX Pro against the TTI.
The SFT has more slide mass, that's why I chose the SF because it's slide is closer. I unfortunately don't have an SFX PRO yet.
@@gbgunsmedia I'm ready to pick up my Canik but having a hard time deciding between the Pro series, Rival, or save up the extra to pick up the TTI. I will be getting the MC9 some time this week as well. I may just go with the Pro as I heard the trigger is slightly better than the Rival.
That TTI is going for $300 over MSRP. Put a comp on the steel frame and its over plus cheaper than the TTI considering what dealers are charging for the TTI.
I have the rival sfx poly and steel. I personally shot the steel fastest of the two
Love my rival-s. The comp on the TTI puts it into open division so it's a hard pass for me. Looks cool though.
How is everyone getting their hands on these
Manually (sorry, I couldn't resist the word play). There were some in stock as of when I published the reivew two weeks ago: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
So is the conclusion that if you already have a sfx rival there’s not really a point in spending a 1000 on a gun that’s not much different? because to me the tti looks like a rival just different color and it has a comp not worth the 1000 when there’s other pistols out there
I have a rival and the TTI. I ended up selling my rival sfx because the tti is that much better. Way better holster, trigger is even better, stipple job and sights are better
I'm torn between the TTI and S.
should have used a METE SFx
Why? Here's the slide mass comparison: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
@@gbgunsmedia longer barrel, heavier gun,
those planes flying over you are spying, wait and watch climb in cut the engine, glide around your city/road/suburb everyday, cant unsee it, watch your phone's signal switch to the equipment they use
ill make sure this is still up tomorrow
they already unliked and unsubed me
The random unsubbing is part of why I set up GBGunsDepot.com. I pay to run that website and pay to have email capability so that I know I can reach people. If you sign up there you are safe. I do not sell the email list, nor do I spam you with deals, it's simply an email system so that you know when something comes out.
The fairest thing to say is that all gun upgrades are a diminishing return. Learning to shoot, experience and training is still first.
All gun upgrades while some nice, some helpful, none truly provide significant performance.
if you're not shooting faster transitions or tighter groups. It's all money on hype.
Yes, I think some upgrades help shooters compensate for lack fo skill (easier triggers, dots, etc), but ultimately higher skill will produce better results with any gun, and that's when those upgrades can provide split-second edges in competition.
Canik’s line is getting pretty bad in terms of naming conventions go.
The Pro series/rival series slides should replace the mete. The front serrations just don’t make sense with a dot.
I’ve been contemplating getting an SFTpro and getting a COMP but now that the TTI exists, I may just go with that.
Why don't the front serrations make sense with a dot?
@@gbgunsmedia What I meant was, the newer serrations style is much better for racking the slide with a dot. (Rival/Pro/TTI have better serrations than the TP9 and METE slides)
Thats why you don't shoot the gun with the comp last...
This was filmed right after I spent an hour with the ported gun filming its review.
To me it looks like best to worst was
Rival S
Rival
TTi
Mete
How did I miss this one
This is the secret second channel which is even MORE hidden than the main channel
Canik rival gold gray the best
I wish Canik just released a comp for the Rival. I won’t have anything to do with Taran. 🤢
The tti is having striker issues
Not so fair comparison. The METE SFT has different trigger than the others. Every other gun have the same type of trigger(flat, 90 degree, aluminum) what is a big advantage. METE SFT PRO would have been the better choice for this video.
Trigger really doesn't make that much of a difference for me. The METE SF is the closest to the TTI in slide length and mass as shown here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
@@gbgunsmedia That's why I mentioned SFT PRO, because TTI basically just a bit redesigned SFT PRO with an integrated comp(Canik's representative confirmed this on IWA).
I believe the SFT slide is longer.
"Alphas"
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Your literally paying an extra 300$ for a name and some challenge coin as if your jon wick with the tti
and different grip texture, different parts, a new barrel design with muzzle weight, new holster, extended magazine, fancy case, etc etc.
Dude, it looks like your grip is weak, the guns were moving all overt.
Care to upload a video and show us all how it's done? Remember, to match what I show you can't use any of the typical guntuber tricks. No lights hanging form the gun, 90 degree straight-on view, and film at 30fps instead of 25fps to show all movement.
I can't get over just how many weak wristed boys need a compensator for a 9mm pistol! I love to shoot 10mm! Are you kidding me??!! Great marketing ploy by Canik! they have suckered a lot of people.
Compensators are more about reducing split times by keeping the gun flatter and reducing the amount of shooter energy it takes to accomplish that. Sure just about anyone can shoot 10mm, or even a big bore, but throwing hundreds of rounds with high concentration in a day, or back to back days is fatiguing.
Thanks for this great video...... I bought a Canik Mete SFx Pro with 5. 7 inch barrel I've not shot it yet what's your thoughts and reviews of this pistol please let me know I appreciate it.... I believe I will really like it it's my First Canik I've Bought and shot
I believe that's the only model I haven't shot.
I think you had a great idea but poorly executed w/ no timer delay.
What does timer delay have to do with total shooting time?
That stuff does make a big difference in the time it takes for you to bring the gun to your eyes. You could easily on accident alone take more or less time or not index ur gun to the same spot. Buy a shot timer with a delay or have someone run your timer for you next time. Also have an index point on the ground like a rock or a cone helps. If you did that your data might look a little more valid. Look at the humble marksman and how he does his comparison videos.
You didnt compare or talk about them hardly at all the aim is semi up to the shooter basically you just flashed the guns shot them and that was it..
Yes, beause I've already thuroughly reviewed all of them.
TTI Combat: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-tti-combat
METE SF: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-mete-sf
Rival-S: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-rival-s-full-review
SFX Rival Dark Side: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-sfx-rival-dark-side
@gbgunsmedia ok but for anyone that hasn't watched that would assume this would be a comparison of the 4 not just showing and shooting them
The TTI Combat is worth the money. It's been reliable, and runs great.
The Rival S is great as well but different.
I prefer the Combat
Such a boring horrible reviewer!
Ah, you must have stumbled into journalism from the influencer world. Don't worry, I'm sure there are other options with simpler commentary and mroe visual pizazz out there.
Well for repeatable accuracy the Rival-S was the stand out but you did stutter with it slowing your time but I think the one I'm about to order is the Rival-S. I like steel guns better so after the bullets are out you still have a club. Lol