Worked for a heat press company for a couple months and the amount of product we had to make for Lululemon was insane. Most of it is outsourced of course, and I can confirm that Lululemon often lie in their branding. Also, the boxes that the product came in smelled like the zoo 🤢🤢
Idea for testing To test the resilience of the knits, maybe a Dremel with a sanding tip instead of a cut or in addition to cutting out a square Might be more akin to wearing it out
Nah I have a $16 pair of Walmart shoes that are this exact quality minus the weird thing around your ankle. Big ol foam sole, shit thin mesh upper, that's about all this is.
I feel so validated, I was one of the few who hated these shoes and said they were trash when they came out and got chased off the lululemon subreddit for trying to warn people not to buy them 😂 felt like everyone was gaslighting themselves to like it. finally video proof that they suck
It’s hard to find people who really call out big brands! I wonder if these big brands see your videos about them? Because by far you do the best review of sneakers and foot wear.
For the eyelet test, the reason why the metal one pulled through easier is because of the dissimilar materials. A metal that hasnt been designed to interface with plastic will usually end up acting as a destructive element when under stress whereas similar materials can more easily work with each other to spread the load. A prime example is a metal eyelet tearing through one leather of a specific quality vs another design of metal eyelet not tearing through that same leather.
Good point. A big challenge in design and engineering is equalizing attributes and quality levels across all of a products components so that there isn’t a single obvious point of failure. A product with similar (often lesser) quality materials can be superior to one where some (but not all) components have “superior” attributes.
@@allans1262 unfortunately the Gel lyte 3 doesn’t have a tri density foam anymore it used to back in the day but now it’s all a one piece foam unit with a small orange gel unit in the heel to cut cost since it’s mainly a sportstyle shoe now
I'm from Vancouver, Lulu used to actually make a small part of it's clothing locally, I used to walk by the store and see a bunch of ladies sewing shirts or whatever maybe 8 years ago? then they moved all of the productions overseas. I heard that their hoodies are quite good but given their issues I just avoid them overall
Never buy a outsourced brand, gave gave working women jobs and shut it down and stopped caring Thanks reagen for the outsourcing crisis🤡 It's like bundstones too, used to me aussie made, now just chinese cut corners WHY ARE YOU STILL BUYING THEIR JUNK They chose to kill aussie jobs, stop supporting them for that
@@CocoKoi321 I work in IT, outsourcing is shite, a 15 days training to a yes-man CANNOT make up for 30 years industry experience, turn it any which way you want.
I think you mean that little sewing-lab thing on Broadway and Cambie. It sure fit the vibe of the neighbourhood lol, with a Starbucks and Wholefoods nearby.
there mens jumpers are honestly amazing, I got one half price at an outlet store, and its the comfiest jumper Ive ever worn my girlfriend hates it, because I wear that thing every single day
I was shocked when you said Lululemon is known for high quality, top tier clothing. I had to Google it and then I learned that Lululemon and LulaRoe are not the same thing...... That explains a lot.
As someone with wide feet. I use Asics or New balance because they have wide shoes and often are easy to replace the soles with Dr Scholl's gel shoes. I've gotten $20 shoes with similar quality
I appreciate you doing shoes marketed to women! Yes, they almost always turn out to be garbage, but at least we know. I tend to just search for wool or leather sneakers because non-synthetic feels like it should be a bit more durable. I did see some Kevlar hiking boots and I was curious to hear your thoughts. Is that just a gimmick? Or is there a real benefit? (They were the naglevs)
I have worked with Kevlar, in a non-shoe oriented area, and there is a reason it is used in bullet proof vests. The main issue I can think of, having Kevlar boots, would be the Kevlar material lasting longer than the connection (whatever glue or stitching method they might use) to the sole(s).
Roseanvil did a video on a pair of naglevs not long ago. It was informative enough for me to decide to try them when I get my next pair of hikers this year
And now we wait for someone to take these guys to court to sue them for all the money they earned from ripping off customers.. Really love all the work you guys put in to your videos. I literally won't buy shoes from a company unless I get the Rose Anvil tick of approval. 😂
They aren’t ripping people off unfortunately. It feels like they are but you couldn’t have a valid argument against them in court as you wish. The margins are at least not as ridiculous as ones some of the bigger companies stamp on bad products, and they never *actually* lied. If you took them to court they could call the insole one of the densities in their dual density claim. That’s just one example, they’d be able to dodge any false advertising claims. -coming from an advertising copywriter. It is unfortunate though and I agree that it is a cheap blow at people who trust what they’re buying.
@@colesisler582 I agree with most of your comment except the part about the price. You can buy unbranded basic running shoes for $20, that includes a margin for the manufacturer's and the store, so the true basic cost is probably about $5. So to sell something this basic for $150, with smoke and mirrors and misinformation, seems pretty outrageous to me. We've got too used to spending over $100 for some generic foam and plastic.
@@colesisler582 I used to work in advertising and I literally came here to comment this exact same thing. People tend to misunderstand what counts as false advertising.
@@CaseyWatchin It would be false advertising as they said it was dual and it is not. Then again you will have to contend with their high paid lawyers so a class action suit would be best
I normally live in boots after years of orthotics. When Altra first came out with their revolutionary Trail Runners (zero drop and wide toe box) I said WTF and tried a pair. My feet loved them! But they seem to have been cutting small corners as competition came up. I'd love to see some Altra Trail Runners and competitors cut up, because "sneakers" aren't all cheap and easy either. Except on your bandsaw.(g)
I live close to where altra started (probably lol), they donated spikes to my high school and i probably have the same trail runners you have. I think for a small business they were getting somewhere with their unique shoes. I would also like to see altras making shoes that could undercut some other brands.
I have had a couple pairs of Altras and they are great for about a month and seem to wear out quickly. Agreed. Would love to see that shoe dissected. The wide toe box is excellent, but so many other minimalist shoes also have this.
thank you for this video. in my hometown in my country we've had a lululemon store for quite some time, but I always found the look of the stuff a bit too basic for my taste (i like patterns and bright colors for my workout), so I ignored it for years. Then someone told me their stuff was supposedly high quality, and I went to check it out and found it way overprized for what it was. At that price, I might as well shop something high-end performance engineered by Nike or Underarmour and get more fun colors on top of it. hearing the founder's story, the reasons he named it the way he did and his public statement about women's bodies - am I getting Abercrombie & Fitch flashbacks? - the brand is even more unsexy to me, regardless of him being involved anymore or not. When someone took a big fat dump in a room it doesn't help if the person then leaves, I'll still also get the heck out of there. not saying that mammoth brands like Nike don't have anything to criticise, but there's also no need to exchange one thing for something just as bad or worse. Also, the concept of shoes tailored to the 'women's' or 'men's' foot is always weird to me. My husband and me are almost the same height and he being Asian and having an athletic body type, we almost have the same shoe size. We are literally just one size apart and I can easily wear his shoes if need be. Counterintuitively though his feet look more delicate than mine. Mine are wide and on the flat side, his are delicate and nicely arched. He sometimes buys so called 'women's' sport shoe models because they fit better to his foot, while I sometimes pick a 'men's' model for comfort.
I'm a woman and I buy men sneakers, my feet are wide. I can't wear north face, too narrow, and always look for brands that offers options. Like Timberland or Asics.
Thank you for what you do! I learned a lot from your channel and it made me more conscious and discerning about choosing my footwear and it's lead me to analyzing all the shoes in the house to see if they've got a goodyear welt, cemented, stitchdown construction, etc lol. Would you consider cutting open the Urban Shepherd service shoes? They're from Portugal and it seems they're really good quality but a bit cheaper than Red Wings. Cheers!
@@cincydooley totally agree. Their clothes are actually pretty cheap consedering the quality. I wear a lot of it and it’s very long lasting. Never thrown a piece out
@@ev1627 You’re welcome to your opinion, but the quality and CS is absolutely there. To dismiss them as a “trendy status symbol” is, frankly, incorrect. They are certainly more expensive, but they’re in line with their market competitors (Ten Thousand, NoBull, Rhone).
I have a couple of their hoodies and also some shorts and sweatpants. While they are pricy, I’d gladly buy it all over again. I wear the shorts or pants pretty much everyday, and it’s the most comfortable clothing I’ve ever tried. Very durable as well. I buy my girl a lot of their products and she loves them. The Align yoga pant makes her ass look so damn good too, and the material is so soft I can’t keep my hands off of her 😅
A brand of shoes that really accomodates the shape of and support for womens feet is Ryka. I discovered them during my first pregnancy with the most comfortable sandals and have owned several different styles since then (over 15 years ago) and every pair has been well made and super comfy. Would love to see a video on them.
Wow. I have challenging feet that are prone to fasciitis if I wear shoes that are uncomfortable. Sadly I wore them for a week and had to toss them in the thrift store bag…. I walk a lot and go through my walking shoes pretty fast. My top 2 fav shoes are brooks and hoka. They both last a couple of months longer than my ASICS and adidas. My adidas also stop being comfortable after about 3 months and I move them to my running errands shoes. I am surprised at how quickly the adidas soles wear down. I cycle my shoes so I actively wear 3-4 shoes in a week. One for my shorter am walk (about 1 hr/7k steps) and my longer afternoon walk (1.5-2.5 hours, averaging about 9.5 miles/day but then school brought it down to 6.5. ) and 2 pairs for my afternoon walks……
Love that they worked for you, but as far as I can tell from the website they still don't have the wide toe box or anything he mentioned. Do you feel like they're wider than others? Or is it more the type of cushion that makes them more comfortable?
I've heard that Hoka is one of the BEST functional sneakers on the market from a gate improvement and load bearing perspective when walking. Would be great to see a video of a pair being dissected
As a Toaster fan, I must say, "Thank you for the extreme Toaster close-up!" It was super cute and impressive! I'd love it if Weston Kay would make Toaster close-ups a permanent feature on his YT channel. 😻👍 As for lululemon being a really overpriced lemon, somehow, I was not surprised.
Howdy -- I'm just commenting to say I'd like to see you do more women's boots as well. I've long known that men's footwear is generally much better made, usually for less money, and it would be great to see comparisons between women's and men's boots in the same brand.
We need more people like you! Millions of women should watch this!!! I hope this video pops up when women search for when they are thinking of buying it. This should let them know not to buy a fraud of a shoe!
Sadly I'm not surprised. I used to be a Lululemon customer because their leggings were way better than the big brands (Nike, adidas etc), and their sports bras are cute. But activewear is so popular now, many other brands have matched the quality while LLL is dropping quality in their new styles. Shame about the shoes, but it solidly puts the brand in the fast fashion category in my view.
Hey Weston! My GF is in healthcare and has recently taken an attraction to the "clove" shoes. I dont know much about what makes a good sneaker, but id love to see a video and your opinion on them.
Lululemon tend to be insanely overpriced for what they are, but I've had two pairs of their men's trousers now that are the first pants in over a decade that I haven't managed to wear the inner thigh out of or split the ass (curse my thick thighs and shapely posterior!) They're now a year old and still in perfect condition apart from a tiny bit of fading on some of the raised seams. They're really, really good. Cost €128 a pair here in Europe, but I've probably saved money by not going through 3 or 4 pairs of pants in the last year, I was spending up to €80 on other pants and they'd fail within months 🤷🏻♂️
Would you consider cutting some special shoes such as shoes for health care workers and teachers (Dansko), or for diabetics people (SAS)? I am always curious if there are any real differences between them and common comfortable shoes like ECCO or Clarks. Another interesting thing is lightweight shoes for travel, like shoes recommended by travelers such as Sarah in ‘Adventure with Sarah’.
It's not just athletic shoes. I wonder if there's anybody who does this with bicycles? They make claims about the tubing that frames are constructed from, what alloys, "butted", "double butted" (this refers to a variable thickness tube, thicker where the joints come together, supposedly creating a stronger, lighter frame). When I Sawzalled my old, worn out bike apart for more convenient dumping in a recycle bin, I discovered no evidence of the claimed butted construction at all. People think the government should be run like a business. I suspect that it already is. Businesses are usually crooked.
More women's shoes please! I'm astounded by the price of these, though maybe I shouldn't be, considering the brand. I'm buying exclusively barefoot shoes these days, for my super wide feet (LLL did not scan me!). I thought paying $100-$150 for hand made shoes (European micro-businesses) was a little high but worth the price ... to see mass manufactured junk like this at the top of that price range is shocking. I can't help pronouncing this brand with a Jamaican reggae accent: Loo Loo Lay-mon.
If you have wide feet check out some skate shoes. Some more classic styles have a wide toe box, are very comfortable and very durable obviously being for skateboarding 🙏😊
@@larryjimbob That's a good idea, but won't work in my case. I have short feet, Women's USA 6.5 EEE. Men's shoes are too long, and women's wide shoes are still too narrow. I also need to dress professionally for work, which means dress boots, plain pumps or ballet flats. Skateboard shoes won't work with a conservative dress and jacket They might work for others, so it's definitely worth looking into.
The "millions of scans" thing really struck me as more of a marketing gimmick than a genuine attempt to provide value to customers. A million is a gigantic sample size for a "scientific" study, they'd almost certainly have more useful data if scanned say 10,000 but went more in depth. From a brief Google it seems like they probably just got a sole silhouette and drew conclusions about things like simple ratios like heel to mid-foot width. With a smaller sample size they could have done 3d scans, measured pressure distribution etc and that might have been genuinely useful for determining where to add extra support, durability etc.
I would love to see you cover APL, as they are some of the priciest athletic shoes I have seen (and owned) and while I enjoy them, I am curious about their output and quality
I’d love to see you break down a few pairs of Altra shoes. They have the foot shaped toe box like Lems, and their Lone Peak trail shoes have a big following from hikers and runners, but I’ve had a lot of concerns with their quality control. The latest Timp release has a mesh that completely falls apart with a single snag, and I don’t know what they’re doing wrong with adhesives, but I’ve had outsole rubber detach from the midsole on several models, including the Rivera and Olympus. Not what you expect for $140+ prices across their entire line.
These kind of remind me of when I was in school when there was a sneaker that was over 100.00 for fashion more than usability. The Vision Street wear sneaker if you could call it that had no support, was built like a Ked sneaker the only difference is that the soul separated from the rest of the sneaker at any time. So many of those who purchased them could be walking down the hall and all of a sudden the soul would fall off and would be walking with a sock to the ground. Mostly it happened with one shoe at a time, but imagine spending all that money for the time and not even a month into wearing them this happened.
Lying about the dual-density foam (actually lack thereof): "Ya busted!" Accurate, concise and professional. Because YT and possibly lalalameon wouldn't approve if you stated "Ya bunch of fuckin' liars!" Accurate, concise and adversarial.
I need new work boots like asap rocky lol let me win one pair of whatever you want as long as it's water proof and and comfyish lol I'm a union carpenter apprentice and could use some new boots for sure :). On another note love your videos bro there awesome and informative and just cool to see you cut shit apart and see what's really going on with all these company's scammarkting well some company's
That shoe and that company is trash. The former CEO is right. Their clothes aren't made for everyone. Bags of mashed potatoes and bone bags aren't appealing for anyone who has a dress code.
Really interesting video!!!! I would definitely be interested in more coverage of women's shoes, esp if it was a men's, women's, kid's model comparison. I have small feet so often if I want to shop in-store I have to shop kids and those shoes suck ass like 90% of the time. I'd be curious to see what the actual differences are in construction!
Speaking of Nike, I'm really curious why you haven't cut their Manoa Leather shoe, yet. It's "leather", it's boot like sneaker, it toe box look mocktoeish and they can be cheap on sale.
Yes, please do more shoes for womans! And also, I would love(!) if you looked closer to some hiking boots, especially from Merrell and similar brands since that's the only thing I wear.
My wife recently bought some stuff from Lululemon. She likes it, I thought it was wildly overpriced for what it is. Seems like the sneakers are the same way. Hi Toaster! Major the Cat and the rest of our fur-children say hello.
The thing about the charge feel specifically, is they are more similar to a Nike metcon free. Technically the one with the upper sock is designed specifically for the elliptical. Strong feel are basically the Nike metcon and the blissfeel is more of the running shoe. I do like them, they have features my other shoes from Nike don’t have. It locks in my heel great, love the arch support and they are comfortable. But after working for the company, not many people come in asking for them, they take up so much space in the store, and not that many of my coworkers wear them everyday. If I’m paying full price for a running shoe, I’m still going to my local running store first.
Dual density mid soles mostly have a harder layer on the inside, rear (heel) area. That is, the whole of the inside, rear of the mid sole (from shoe upper to outsole) is made of a harder foam to prevent overpronation. Sometimes there is a gradual change in density rather than a separate layer nowadays. You seem to be under the impression that it is a different horizontal layer whereas it is frequently a harder vertical orientated layer which might be why you are not seeing the difference. Especially where they gradually increase the density across the foot.
@@AstrumG2V Not in the numerous running shoes I've owned over the years. I'm wearing an old pair of Asics kayanos at the moment and the dual density mid sole is shown as a different coloured layer that goes vertically down the full height of the midsole from the inside edge of the heel to just before the ball of the foot. This is to stop the foot rolling inward too much.
@@AstrumG2V Yes, I am. That has been the main use of dual density mid soles from my experience. There have been a few different developments like New Balance Encap which had an EVA core surrounded by a PU harder layer that was circular but in the horizontal plane. Mostly though the dual density mid sole has been used as a stability feature to prevent over-pronation. My experience is mostly with running shoes so perhaps I am missing some different applications of the technology.
I was really shocked when you went over the company history. I thought they were just an MLM selling crap leggings for 3x cost of what you can get on Amazon from China
This is why I have never been a sneaker head. Too many companies, creating fake products based off of false advertising. In my opinion, vans and converse are the most authentic and real shoe/sneaker brand when it comes to what they place in their shoe and how they advertise it
Would love to see the Momenta Ripstop from Puma! I have a pair and after a while you feel EVERY SINGLE ROCK under your feet if you’re not on a flat surface.
I'd like to see a video focusing on rebound shoes and boots I deliver mail for a living and something with great rebound would probably be a godsend to the workday. I'd also love to see nicks do some 600 shoes I'd love a resoleable shoe
"Not egregiously over priced" WTF are you talking about? This shoe is worth maybe $20 yet selling for $150. Seriously what does this shoe provide that a no name Walmart shoe doesn't?
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A shoe brand misrepresented their product? I'm appalled, disgusted and not the least bit surprised ;)
I wouldn't call them a show brand. I'd call them a clothing brand that got a big L in the shoe market.
They're not a shoe brand. They're an over priced fashion brand that the Starbucks and UGGs crowd wears to show how much money they have
NO KIDDING RIGHT.
I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
Shave your face
Worked for a heat press company for a couple months and the amount of product we had to make for Lululemon was insane. Most of it is outsourced of course, and I can confirm that Lululemon often lie in their branding. Also, the boxes that the product came in smelled like the zoo 🤢🤢
Didn't the get in trouble about leggings or some MLM scheme?
@@reno419rockstar lularoe
common lululemon L
Idea for testing
To test the resilience of the knits, maybe a Dremel with a sanding tip instead of a cut or in addition to cutting out a square
Might be more akin to wearing it out
The foot doctor Zach does that on his channel.
Got to love it when you expose these overpriced lifestyle brands! Great work, keep it up.
I'm super happy not to ever give a cent to this BS brand.
Expose? Bro my man literally rpd that shoe @ 5:34 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
$148! I would struggle to pay $48 for it.
fr, $28 take it or leave it lol
@@yeetusdeletus8565 leave it
Nah I have a $16 pair of Walmart shoes that are this exact quality minus the weird thing around your ankle. Big ol foam sole, shit thin mesh upper, that's about all this is.
12.99$
Right? Looks like the nobrand junk you get from east-London bulk-selling shops. 25 pounds sounds more like it. A foam sock.
I feel so validated, I was one of the few who hated these shoes and said they were trash when they came out and got chased off the lululemon subreddit for trying to warn people not to buy them 😂 felt like everyone was gaslighting themselves to like it. finally video proof that they suck
Honestly getting chased off a reddit for lululemon was probably a god send
@@WHDRWN haha yes, shouldn’t have been there in the first place
@@kyla8386live and learn
People do that with everything these days. Idk why they feel the need to simp for bullshit but they do.
Saw these at the lulu store the other day, and I was thinking about it getting cut in half. They kind of look like Walmart shoes ngl.
I have them and I HATE them they are already ripped apart and do not stay white
It’s hard to find people who really call out big brands! I wonder if these big brands see your videos about them? Because by far you do the best review of sneakers and foot wear.
For the eyelet test, the reason why the metal one pulled through easier is because of the dissimilar materials. A metal that hasnt been designed to interface with plastic will usually end up acting as a destructive element when under stress whereas similar materials can more easily work with each other to spread the load. A prime example is a metal eyelet tearing through one leather of a specific quality vs another design of metal eyelet not tearing through that same leather.
Good point. A big challenge in design and engineering is equalizing attributes and quality levels across all of a products components so that there isn’t a single obvious point of failure. A product with similar (often lesser) quality materials can be superior to one where some (but not all) components have “superior” attributes.
Dude I’m telling you Asics is where it’s at they have true duel density foams I’ve cut open a nimbus 23 myself and they are fantastically made
Id also like to see the Gel lyte 3's tri-density sole being examined on here too :) Asics are boss, wish I found them sooner
@@allans1262 unfortunately the Gel lyte 3 doesn’t have a tri density foam anymore it used to back in the day but now it’s all a one piece foam unit with a small orange gel unit in the heel to cut cost since it’s mainly a sportstyle shoe now
I love the Hoka Mach 4 and 5 foams ❤️ profly is lit af
@@AstrumG2V hmm I’ve actually never investigated into those models I’ll check them out thank you 🙏 🔥
I'm from Vancouver, Lulu used to actually make a small part of it's clothing locally, I used to walk by the store and see a bunch of ladies sewing shirts or whatever maybe 8 years ago? then they moved all of the productions overseas.
I heard that their hoodies are quite good but given their issues I just avoid them overall
Never buy a outsourced brand, gave gave working women jobs and shut it down and stopped caring
Thanks reagen for the outsourcing crisis🤡
It's like bundstones too, used to me aussie made, now just chinese cut corners WHY ARE YOU STILL BUYING THEIR JUNK
They chose to kill aussie jobs, stop supporting them for that
@@CocoKoi321 I work in IT, outsourcing is shite, a 15 days training to a yes-man CANNOT make up for 30 years industry experience, turn it any which way you want.
I think you mean that little sewing-lab thing on Broadway and Cambie. It sure fit the vibe of the neighbourhood lol, with a Starbucks and Wholefoods nearby.
Lol so the founder was right
there mens jumpers are honestly amazing, I got one half price at an outlet store, and its the comfiest jumper Ive ever worn
my girlfriend hates it, because I wear that thing every single day
the people at lululemon probably just had a foot fetish lol
I lost it at "scanned thousands of woman's feet" lol
@@TheHuskyK9 bruh 😂
I was shocked when you said Lululemon is known for high quality, top tier clothing. I had to Google it and then I learned that Lululemon and LulaRoe are not the same thing...... That explains a lot.
Your honor, what my client meant was "Dual Density = We mixed foam of 2 different densities to create a new foam of uniform density"
“There are two densities at play here: that of the outsole, and that of the customer”
@@pcarrierorange ☠️☠️☠️
Maybe they did scan a million feet and just came to the conclusion that sneaker companies have already figured out the best shoe shape.
Would love to see a series comparing functional fitness footwear... Reebok Nanos, Nike Metcons, No Bulls, Inov-8, etc.
Yes, Nobull are regarded as really expensive for a Chinese bad quality training shoe
Dr Zach is a foot doctor, who reviews basketball and tennis shoes on RUclips
As someone with wide feet. I use Asics or New balance because they have wide shoes and often are easy to replace the soles with Dr Scholl's gel shoes.
I've gotten $20 shoes with similar quality
Consider trying a "barefoot" brand like Lems, they're amazing for wide feet and don't pinch toes
I appreciate you doing shoes marketed to women! Yes, they almost always turn out to be garbage, but at least we know.
I tend to just search for wool or leather sneakers because non-synthetic feels like it should be a bit more durable.
I did see some Kevlar hiking boots and I was curious to hear your thoughts. Is that just a gimmick? Or is there a real benefit? (They were the naglevs)
I have worked with Kevlar, in a non-shoe oriented area, and there is a reason it is used in bullet proof vests. The main issue I can think of, having Kevlar boots, would be the Kevlar material lasting longer than the connection (whatever glue or stitching method they might use) to the sole(s).
Roseanvil did a video on a pair of naglevs not long ago. It was informative enough for me to decide to try them when I get my next pair of hikers this year
And now we wait for someone to take these guys to court to sue them for all the money they earned from ripping off customers.. Really love all the work you guys put in to your videos. I literally won't buy shoes from a company unless I get the Rose Anvil tick of approval. 😂
They aren’t ripping people off unfortunately. It feels like they are but you couldn’t have a valid argument against them in court as you wish.
The margins are at least not as ridiculous as ones some of the bigger companies stamp on bad products, and they never *actually* lied. If you took them to court they could call the insole one of the densities in their dual density claim. That’s just one example, they’d be able to dodge any false advertising claims. -coming from an advertising copywriter.
It is unfortunate though and I agree that it is a cheap blow at people who trust what they’re buying.
@@colesisler582 I agree with most of your comment except the part about the price. You can buy unbranded basic running shoes for $20, that includes a margin for the manufacturer's and the store, so the true basic cost is probably about $5. So to sell something this basic for $150, with smoke and mirrors and misinformation, seems pretty outrageous to me. We've got too used to spending over $100 for some generic foam and plastic.
@@colesisler582 I used to work in advertising and I literally came here to comment this exact same thing. People tend to misunderstand what counts as false advertising.
@@CaseyWatchin saying a product has "dual support" or whatever it was and it ends up NOT having it would be a legitimate complaint
@@CaseyWatchin It would be false advertising as they said it was dual and it is not. Then again you will have to contend with their high paid lawyers so a class action suit would be best
I normally live in boots after years of orthotics. When Altra first came out with their revolutionary Trail Runners (zero drop and wide toe box) I said WTF and tried a pair. My feet loved them! But they seem to have been cutting small corners as competition came up.
I'd love to see some Altra Trail Runners and competitors cut up, because "sneakers" aren't all cheap and easy either. Except on your bandsaw.(g)
I live close to where altra started (probably lol), they donated spikes to my high school and i probably have the same trail runners you have. I think for a small business they were getting somewhere with their unique shoes. I would also like to see altras making shoes that could undercut some other brands.
I have had a couple pairs of Altras and they are great for about a month and seem to wear out quickly. Agreed. Would love to see that shoe dissected. The wide toe box is excellent, but so many other minimalist shoes also have this.
thank you for this video. in my hometown in my country we've had a lululemon store for quite some time, but I always found the look of the stuff a bit too basic for my taste (i like patterns and bright colors for my workout), so I ignored it for years. Then someone told me their stuff was supposedly high quality, and I went to check it out and found it way overprized for what it was. At that price, I might as well shop something high-end performance engineered by Nike or Underarmour and get more fun colors on top of it.
hearing the founder's story, the reasons he named it the way he did and his public statement about women's bodies - am I getting Abercrombie & Fitch flashbacks? - the brand is even more unsexy to me, regardless of him being involved anymore or not. When someone took a big fat dump in a room it doesn't help if the person then leaves, I'll still also get the heck out of there.
not saying that mammoth brands like Nike don't have anything to criticise, but there's also no need to exchange one thing for something just as bad or worse.
Also, the concept of shoes tailored to the 'women's' or 'men's' foot is always weird to me. My husband and me are almost the same height and he being Asian and having an athletic body type, we almost have the same shoe size. We are literally just one size apart and I can easily wear his shoes if need be. Counterintuitively though his feet look more delicate than mine. Mine are wide and on the flat side, his are delicate and nicely arched. He sometimes buys so called 'women's' sport shoe models because they fit better to his foot, while I sometimes pick a 'men's' model for comfort.
“An exception to a rule does not in fact make the rule untrue”
I'm a woman and I buy men sneakers, my feet are wide. I can't wear north face, too narrow, and always look for brands that offers options. Like Timberland or Asics.
Thank you for what you do! I learned a lot from your channel and it made me more conscious and discerning about choosing my footwear and it's lead me to analyzing all the shoes in the house to see if they've got a goodyear welt, cemented, stitchdown construction, etc lol. Would you consider cutting open the Urban Shepherd service shoes? They're from Portugal and it seems they're really good quality but a bit cheaper than Red Wings. Cheers!
Love it. Love your fair treatment of companies insisting on selling BS. LLL is trendy, kind of a status ish symbol, and that’s about it.
“Listen buddy you’re just wrong and I’m biased 😡”
@@cincydooley totally agree. Their clothes are actually pretty cheap consedering the quality. I wear a lot of it and it’s very long lasting. Never thrown a piece out
@@ev1627 You’re welcome to your opinion, but the quality and CS is absolutely there. To dismiss them as a “trendy status symbol” is, frankly, incorrect. They are certainly more expensive, but they’re in line with their market competitors (Ten Thousand, NoBull, Rhone).
@@cincydooley Hey y'all, let's take a ride to Astroturf City!
I have a couple of their hoodies and also some shorts and sweatpants. While they are pricy, I’d gladly buy it all over again. I wear the shorts or pants pretty much everyday, and it’s the most comfortable clothing I’ve ever tried. Very durable as well. I buy my girl a lot of their products and she loves them. The Align yoga pant makes her ass look so damn good too, and the material is so soft I can’t keep my hands off of her 😅
A brand of shoes that really accomodates the shape of and support for womens feet is Ryka. I discovered them during my first pregnancy with the most comfortable sandals and have owned several different styles since then (over 15 years ago) and every pair has been well made and super comfy. Would love to see a video on them.
Wow. I have challenging feet that are prone to fasciitis if I wear shoes that are uncomfortable. Sadly I wore them for a week and had to toss them in the thrift store bag…. I walk a lot and go through my walking shoes pretty fast. My top 2 fav shoes are brooks and hoka. They both last a couple of months longer than my ASICS and adidas. My adidas also stop being comfortable after about 3 months and I move them to my running errands shoes. I am surprised at how quickly the adidas soles wear down. I cycle my shoes so I actively wear 3-4 shoes in a week. One for my shorter am walk (about 1 hr/7k steps) and my longer afternoon walk (1.5-2.5 hours, averaging about 9.5 miles/day but then school brought it down to 6.5. ) and 2 pairs for my afternoon walks……
@@eonartsjeez.. you just burn thru shoes huh? Hahaha
@@eonarts My mother has had problems with her big toe, she even had surgery, and she SWEARS BY the hoka ones!
Love that they worked for you, but as far as I can tell from the website they still don't have the wide toe box or anything he mentioned. Do you feel like they're wider than others? Or is it more the type of cushion that makes them more comfortable?
@@eonarts have you considered altra or Dr. Scholl's insoles?
I've heard that Hoka is one of the BEST functional sneakers on the market from a gate improvement and load bearing perspective when walking. Would be great to see a video of a pair being dissected
I’m getting really good at predicting the centre cut score
As a Toaster fan, I must say, "Thank you for the extreme Toaster close-up!" It was super cute and impressive! I'd love it if Weston Kay would make Toaster close-ups a permanent feature on his YT channel. 😻👍
As for lululemon being a really overpriced lemon, somehow, I was not surprised.
The family and I love Toaster as well!
The man is back at it again! A National Treasure
When will you have a Toaster T shirt? Love your channel and especially love Toaster cameos. ❤️🐈
Howdy -- I'm just commenting to say I'd like to see you do more women's boots as well. I've long known that men's footwear is generally much better made, usually for less money, and it would be great to see comparisons between women's and men's boots in the same brand.
We need more people like you!
Millions of women should watch this!!! I hope this video pops up when women search for when they are thinking of buying it. This should let them know not to buy a fraud of a shoe!
Nice reminder that Lululemon was named that because the owner thought Asian people saying it would be funny
Sadly I'm not surprised. I used to be a Lululemon customer because their leggings were way better than the big brands (Nike, adidas etc), and their sports bras are cute. But activewear is so popular now, many other brands have matched the quality while LLL is dropping quality in their new styles. Shame about the shoes, but it solidly puts the brand in the fast fashion category in my view.
Hey Weston! My GF is in healthcare and has recently taken an attraction to the "clove" shoes. I dont know much about what makes a good sneaker, but id love to see a video and your opinion on them.
The most durable pair(s) of exercise shoes that I've owned were the Pearl Izumi running/trail shoes circa 2012.
They are half the price also. Pearl Izumi Women's EM Trail M2 v2
Definely interested in more of women's footwear videos! Please keep your videos coming ❤️
Yes to more women footwear videos!!!!
the 1mil feet scans are probably on the ceo's hard drive rn
Lululemon tend to be insanely overpriced for what they are, but I've had two pairs of their men's trousers now that are the first pants in over a decade that I haven't managed to wear the inner thigh out of or split the ass (curse my thick thighs and shapely posterior!) They're now a year old and still in perfect condition apart from a tiny bit of fading on some of the raised seams.
They're really, really good.
Cost €128 a pair here in Europe, but I've probably saved money by not going through 3 or 4 pairs of pants in the last year, I was spending up to €80 on other pants and they'd fail within months 🤷🏻♂️
Cut some Olympic weightlifting shoes in half, it’d be cool to see the full construction
The outer sole is too thin making it easy to degrade over time, especially if your heavy.
Or if you have flat feet and or step hard
Thank you for this examination - companies need to be called out like this to stop robbing customers
So glad you make these videos! We would be in the dark about so many of these issues otherwise. Thanks Rose Anvil and Happy New Year 🥳
Would you consider cutting some special shoes such as shoes for health care workers and teachers (Dansko), or for diabetics people (SAS)? I am always curious if there are any real differences between them and common comfortable shoes like ECCO or Clarks.
Another interesting thing is lightweight shoes for travel, like shoes recommended by travelers such as Sarah in ‘Adventure with Sarah’.
It's not just athletic shoes. I wonder if there's anybody who does this with bicycles? They make claims about the tubing that frames are constructed from, what alloys, "butted", "double butted" (this refers to a variable thickness tube, thicker where the joints come together, supposedly creating a stronger, lighter frame). When I Sawzalled my old, worn out bike apart for more convenient dumping in a recycle bin, I discovered no evidence of the claimed butted construction at all. People think the government should be run like a business. I suspect that it already is. Businesses are usually crooked.
Under Armour has a very similar shoe that promises similar gimmicks. It's called FLOW Synchronicity, it actually looks very similar to the Lululemon's
More women's shoes please!
I'm astounded by the price of these, though maybe I shouldn't be, considering the brand. I'm buying exclusively barefoot shoes these days, for my super wide feet (LLL did not scan me!). I thought paying $100-$150 for hand made shoes (European micro-businesses) was a little high but worth the price ... to see mass manufactured junk like this at the top of that price range is shocking.
I can't help pronouncing this brand with a Jamaican reggae accent: Loo Loo Lay-mon.
If you have wide feet check out some skate shoes. Some more classic styles have a wide toe box, are very comfortable and very durable obviously being for skateboarding 🙏😊
@@larryjimbob That's a good idea, but won't work in my case.
I have short feet, Women's USA 6.5 EEE. Men's shoes are too long, and women's wide shoes are still too narrow.
I also need to dress professionally for work, which means dress boots, plain pumps or ballet flats. Skateboard shoes won't work with a conservative dress and jacket
They might work for others, so it's definitely worth looking into.
@@lizcademy4809 Sorry, I tried 😁
@@lizcademy4809 I personally think the brand duck boots makes a really pretty and incredibly wide women's boot :)
The "millions of scans" thing really struck me as more of a marketing gimmick than a genuine attempt to provide value to customers. A million is a gigantic sample size for a "scientific" study, they'd almost certainly have more useful data if scanned say 10,000 but went more in depth. From a brief Google it seems like they probably just got a sole silhouette and drew conclusions about things like simple ratios like heel to mid-foot width. With a smaller sample size they could have done 3d scans, measured pressure distribution etc and that might have been genuinely useful for determining where to add extra support, durability etc.
I would love to see you cover APL, as they are some of the priciest athletic shoes I have seen (and owned) and while I enjoy them, I am curious about their output and quality
I’d love to see you break down a few pairs of Altra shoes. They have the foot shaped toe box like Lems, and their Lone Peak trail shoes have a big following from hikers and runners, but I’ve had a lot of concerns with their quality control. The latest Timp release has a mesh that completely falls apart with a single snag, and I don’t know what they’re doing wrong with adhesives, but I’ve had outsole rubber detach from the midsole on several models, including the Rivera and Olympus. Not what you expect for $140+ prices across their entire line.
I've had similar experiences with their Torin 4 and Rivera lines. My Loan Peaks are holding up well though
* Random figure says an obvious truism
Social media jackals: Cancel him! He hurt our feelings!
That’s really cool that you and all these brands are donating to your subs man!
Bunch of absolute bros started Lululemon. They changed my life forever when girls started wearing them in junior high
So glad I saw this!! I’m a fan of lululemon and thought about getting these bc they were on sale for $79. I’ll just stick to other brands for shoes.
These kind of remind me of when I was in school when there was a sneaker that was over 100.00 for fashion more than usability. The Vision Street wear sneaker if you could call it that had no support, was built like a Ked sneaker the only difference is that the soul separated from the rest of the sneaker at any time. So many of those who purchased them could be walking down the hall and all of a sudden the soul would fall off and would be walking with a sock to the ground. Mostly it happened with one shoe at a time, but imagine spending all that money for the time and not even a month into wearing them this happened.
They're still around, lmao.
The sole, not the soul. But then again...
Do the Nobull brand sneaker. I have it and it’s honestly the best gym shoe I’ve ever had, but maybe I’m just drinking the juice lol
That midsole design is straight up copy of the Puma Velocity Nitro 2. And the velocity actually has a dual density midsole system.
Saw through this company from the start… elitist, sizes, just insane marketing by selling an instagramable lifestyle.
So, they are innovative stylish number one export quality chinese workout slippers, huh?
Lying about the dual-density foam (actually lack thereof): "Ya busted!" Accurate, concise and professional.
Because YT and possibly lalalameon wouldn't approve if you stated "Ya bunch of fuckin' liars!" Accurate, concise and adversarial.
LuLu Lemon is trash, just walk into their store and buy a pack of socks for 40 bucks. Sounds great!
I need new work boots like asap rocky lol let me win one pair of whatever you want as long as it's water proof and and comfyish lol I'm a union carpenter apprentice and could use some new boots for sure :). On another note love your videos bro there awesome and informative and just cool to see you cut shit apart and see what's really going on with all these company's scammarkting well some company's
That shoe and that company is trash. The former CEO is right. Their clothes aren't made for everyone. Bags of mashed potatoes and bone bags aren't appealing for anyone who has a dress code.
Day 7 of asking for A Ma Maniere Jordan 4s and the improved quality
First time I've ever heard of this lulu company... and hopefully the last
They scanned the same one women’s foot 1 million times 😂😂😂
Would you make an episode about Vessi shoes? I am curious about the actual value of this brand.
Wow, this is pretty extensive. They should hire you to redesign the shoe.
Really interesting video!!!! I would definitely be interested in more coverage of women's shoes, esp if it was a men's, women's, kid's model comparison. I have small feet so often if I want to shop in-store I have to shop kids and those shoes suck ass like 90% of the time. I'd be curious to see what the actual differences are in construction!
My guess is they just wanted a million pictures of women's feet cause they creeps. Not for the shoe purposes
I dislike Lululemon and the culture it represent soooo much. Your critique was on point.
Wow, your testing parameters are next level. Great reveal. Good job.
I'd love to see the Reebok Club C 85 or Reebok Classic Leather cut apart!
Surprised he hasn’t done that yet
Speaking of Nike, I'm really curious why you haven't cut their Manoa Leather shoe, yet. It's "leather", it's boot like sneaker, it toe box look mocktoeish and they can be cheap on sale.
Videos are awesome! A comment For the bloody algorithm!
I think Chip wanted another L for Lululemon.
Yes, please do more shoes for womans! And also, I would love(!) if you looked closer to some hiking boots, especially from Merrell and similar brands since that's the only thing I wear.
Please test Allbirds next!!
My wife recently bought some stuff from Lululemon. She likes it, I thought it was wildly overpriced for what it is. Seems like the sneakers are the same way. Hi Toaster! Major the Cat and the rest of our fur-children say hello.
The thing about the charge feel specifically, is they are more similar to a Nike metcon free. Technically the one with the upper sock is designed specifically for the elliptical. Strong feel are basically the Nike metcon and the blissfeel is more of the running shoe. I do like them, they have features my other shoes from Nike don’t have. It locks in my heel great, love the arch support and they are comfortable.
But after working for the company, not many people come in asking for them, they take up so much space in the store, and not that many of my coworkers wear them everyday. If I’m paying full price for a running shoe, I’m still going to my local running store first.
Great job. Thank you. Would love to see a cut in half review of a Nobull shoe!
I'd love to see merrell jungle mocs. I have a feeling they're pretty basic construction and not that interesting but they are so damn comfy.
Dual density mid soles mostly have a harder layer on the inside, rear (heel) area.
That is, the whole of the inside, rear of the mid sole (from shoe upper to outsole) is made of a harder foam to prevent overpronation. Sometimes there is a gradual change in density rather than a separate layer nowadays.
You seem to be under the impression that it is a different horizontal layer whereas it is frequently a harder vertical orientated layer which might be why you are not seeing the difference. Especially where they gradually increase the density across the foot.
In most running shoes they are a horizontal layer though?
@@AstrumG2V Not in the numerous running shoes I've owned over the years. I'm wearing an old pair of Asics kayanos at the moment and the dual density mid sole is shown as a different coloured layer that goes vertically down the full height of the midsole from the inside edge of the heel to just before the ball of the foot. This is to stop the foot rolling inward too much.
@@UnknownUser-rb9pd you're thinking of stability shoes, in which case, yes, it would be used to prevent overpronation.
@@AstrumG2V Yes, I am. That has been the main use of dual density mid soles from my experience. There have been a few different developments like New Balance Encap which had an EVA core surrounded by a PU harder layer that was circular but in the horizontal plane. Mostly though the dual density mid sole has been used as a stability feature to prevent over-pronation. My experience is mostly with running shoes so perhaps I am missing some different applications of the technology.
lululemon = typical clownworld company
I was really shocked when you went over the company history. I thought they were just an MLM selling crap leggings for 3x cost of what you can get on Amazon from China
you might be thinking of lularoe, they’re that one mlm that sells the hideous patterned leggings lol
Lularoe. But yeah lululemon is still shitty
When is the 13th day of christmas? Lol I keep checking my email hoping I won!
Jan 7th I think? forget where I saw it, but I remember seeing that date listed somewhere in relation to the giveaway
Damn, Chip was based as fuck.
This is why I have never been a sneaker head. Too many companies, creating fake products based off of false advertising. In my opinion, vans and converse are the most authentic and real shoe/sneaker brand when it comes to what they place in their shoe and how they advertise it
The only two I wear funny enough! I love my vans!
I'd be interested in seeing a review from you on vessi shoes to test their claims
Weston, keep it up!! You're doing great.
Why is he saying “luluwomen” ?
Please do more women’s footwear!!
Would love to see the Momenta Ripstop from Puma! I have a pair and after a while you feel EVERY SINGLE ROCK under your feet if you’re not on a flat surface.
Bet they still suck tho
Always good to see a toaster cameo : )
And very majestic he looked! 🧐
こんなシューズが100ドル以上するの！？ ホームセンターで売ってる20～30ドルのシューズと同じ品質だね。やはりスポーツシューズは専門メーカー製に限ります。
I'd like to see a video focusing on rebound shoes and boots I deliver mail for a living and something with great rebound would probably be a godsend to the workday. I'd also love to see nicks do some 600 shoes I'd love a resoleable shoe
"Not egregiously over priced" WTF are you talking about? This shoe is worth maybe $20 yet selling for $150. Seriously what does this shoe provide that a no name Walmart shoe doesn't?
These are over 50% OFF RIGHT NOW!!!! If they suck they suck but your video was awesome!! And low key funny 😂