hey Grubby, i'm the author of the map, and i have to say, as a 35 year old man i was shaking when i saw you play it. unfortunately i made it a while ago and i sucked at wc3, hence the balace issues. so if people really like it, they should bring it in this century and balance it, i fear though will be real hard to balance it. anyway, big fan of yours. much love
The crab feast ability can be abused so much. He can create a lot of murgul slaves to slaughter and feed the crabs or if teamed with undead can mass produce graveyards and up the damage of the crabs by a lot.
@@SttravagaNZza Well, when things like Planescape were releasing back in the 2e days, DnD developers were on fire creating incredible stuff that was surpassing people's expectations.
@@faikerdogan2802 Because when you're doing it for free the only reason to do it is because you're passionate about it. You don't have to worry about being forced to rush so that someone above you who doesn't care about the game can make some quick bucks.
These are great! There used to be a bunch of these back in frozen throne. I saw some with like 20 races and they had completely unique mechanics. Things like combining units, mana infrastructure and a bunch i can't even remember.
Still breaks my heart that blizzard failed so hard on reforged. If they just cared, they could easily turned something great even greater. This right here is a wonderful example
Why, everyone can port these races now to other maps via the editor and the best part for blizzard is that all the rights connected to this are now owned by blizzard! So you are technically working for blizzard meaning Blizzard made the map!
@@Lunatic-Beleren what, no. on reforged release they crushed the original wc3 and changed their licence agreement so that everything that is creating by anyone in their editor has its owner rights set to Blizzard Entertainment, since they are so fearful to lose out on another DotA
The best NAGA is the one from the Empire of the Tides LEGION Mod, it is well done, quite balanced, not even blizzard would have done it better, also this mod also brings the demon, bloodelf and troll
That "Evolve" ability should cost some gold (or something else) to upgrade each unit, which means the player has to decide how many units (of that unit type) should evolve. Otherwise, it doesn't serve better than a simple upgrade, it only makes the player have to manually tell the unit(s) to evolve. If you can pay gold per unit to upgrade them, it would open up new strategies. You may prefer making more base units and not upgrading them when you would be still at "No Upkeep" after making more of them. When you are close to the threshold of "Low Upkeep", you would prefer upgrading them.
I made a bunch of maps like this back in the day for me and friends. Remade humans as Lordaeron Humans with inspiration from wc2, split off and made a Dwarf race, Blood Elves race (similar to the campaign but with a full 4 blood elven heroes), remade Undead into Scourge, split off and made Forsaken race, Burning Legion race, Illidari race, and neutral Dragon heroes (with human and dragon forms). I just never could figure out how to make it selectable at start - i just had full replacements of existing races and a wisp that could mind control a worker at the start.
@@robertb.2063 changed pcs too many times since, it was in 2008-ish. Plus, I never credited the model makers (i used custom models from hive), the map was humongous in size (due to so many imported custom models), and it was probably poorly balanced considering i was like 13 years old at the time :)) I also remember the human/dragon forms being somewhat buggy, i think for some reason their human and dragon form abilities would overlap instead of replace each other, despite them being two different units with different abilities (i used druid of the talon crow form as a basis for the transformation iirc). I also used wow as a basis for some of my designs, such as a blood elf warlock that could convert its own hp into mana, but it had to be done through scripts because there wasn't an ability like that in the game, and I recall the script didn't work right because it gave mana for free instead of also damaging the unit. I do miss map making in wc3, but with a 9 hour job i don't have time for it anymore, and wc3 is nowhere near as popular anymore
same, i made this in 2008 and i remember bnet limit being 4mb, and mine had 6mb. i think i used some custom models too and didnt credit creators. i guess quite a few people made altered melee maps back then, since the hive even had a category for it
This map kinda reminds of azeroth wars, lordaereon the foremath/aftermath. Please check these maps out, they are pretty epic too, including a slightly different Gold gaining adjustment and way bigger armies. The way how the warcraft3 storyline is set up there is just legendary.
Azeroth war was incredible, definitely agree with the suggestion. I'm sure Grubby would have so much fun replaying all the important warcraft events in one map.
Those are great but not really the same genre as this. And basically impossible to get into since you need a full lobby and a bunch of people of the same skill level.
@@yaelz6043 iam Not Sure whether zoom is still active. Let me have a Look and come back later. When there is a Willing to Do it we can arrange it. I'd consider joining myself. Edit: Well, @Zoomsf uploaded a vid just 3 days ago. Seems pretty good 2 me.
In the original planned WC3, Burning legion was supposed to be a playable faction. They decided it needed to be more powerful for the campaign, thus didn't make sense as a playable race.
@@johannesschmitz6370 Yeah at the time their excuse made sense. But years later, not so much. As they could have had custom units only found in the campaign. They wanted the Burning Legion to seem overwhelming. I think they were having a hard time balancing 4 playable factions as it was, so they abandoned the 5th.
Hey Grubby, did you know you can have multiple Doom Guards at the same time in a 1v1? Two ways to do this. First, you can doom your own Tauren next to a healing fountain while also use healing wards to outheal the doom damage. Then just wait for the cooldown to doom a second Tauren, etc. With human, doom your own unit and then have three heroes each use their staff of sanctuary on that unit. The healing from all three staffs stack. Then attack your unit with a couple peasants so that it doesn't heal too fast and cancel the staff healing effect. Then build up as many doomed units as you want.
This is kinda like a mod I saw, that not only brings the Warcraft 2 campaigns into WC3 engine, but also remakes the missions, and in every chapter you play as a different faction (Humas: Azeroth, Stromgarde, Dalaran, etc and Orcs: Blackrock Clan, Burning Blade Clan, etc) each having slightly different gameplay with different strenths and weaknesses and unique looks. Now that's kinda a proper remake for the game.
I've made one too many years ago: Night Elves = Satyrs Humans = Bandits/Mercenaries Orcs = Cursed (red) Orcs/Ogres/Centaur mix So many hours working on these maps. Man, those were the days
I remember maming custom maps back in the day to play as these off races. Super fun stuff, though my maps definitely didn't have as much stuff as this one!
It would be great to do some episodes with some of the map creators that historically made maps on warcraft 3. I think there are many people that would want to see what these map creators are up to now.
lol bro you are the perfect peronality for a game streamer.. i fkn lol almost every video at your funny sounds and sayings! :) Keep doing whst you do bro 1💪😎👌
I was getting bored, but bro, if you make videos with this mod, I will watch every one of them. This makes me so happy. I've always wanted more and new races in WC3.
A solid custom map(better than the last one) but still not as polished as I'd love to see. There must be one of these mods that goes full out, no race limitations, no weird bugs, clean tooltips, etc...
Imagine of this had Draeneis!! I can't wait to see other games, it looks so fun and I agree with Grubby i was expecting reforged to have naga as a playable race, that would have been insane
Years ago... I remixed the entire original version like this and balanced tested it as 11 Ai... as I hid my night elf tree in the corner of the map and turned on God mode then come back and checked it at days end... I had the blood elves instead of that "mech thing"... I should have released it... it's good to see others take that initative...
Hey I played this a bunch with my friend back in wc3 :D , demon used to work though idk what's wrong with it here. Another map i've been meaning to request is Warlords Empire by Avahor, it's a RTS map where you control units that evolve based on the kills they get , it's really micro intensive but it's a lot of fun and I think you'd be a beast at it , sadly the map was more or less abandoned by it's creator and most of the available races aren't fully finished.
I bougth war3 reforged after having it refunded a week after launch, just because I spend to hours watching you every day anyway. Kinda really wanna only play this map from now on :D
I'm an Orc main. I played ROC when I was a kid, and thrilled when TFT came out. I played Human and Night Elf for a while, but they didn't speak to me. Orc is just my style. Grubby is King of the Orcs, as any old player knows. Grubby is the one guy everyone cam trust to be the best and least biased about balanced. I think it would be good for the community if Grubby set the balance standard. I don't want him to balance the game becauses I think he will make Orc Strongest. I want Ord to be 2nd strongest or 3rd most of the time so we have a challenge. Balance is way more complex than 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th strongest. Balance should be in Flux.
Grubby need to try wc3 custom map warcraft legacies, the "new" azeroth wars. In my opinion that's how wc3 should be. Scourge, legion, lordaeron, quel, dalaran, stormwind, dwarfs, kul tiras, fel Horde, illidari, druids, draenei, sentinels, warsong, frostwolf and goblin/zandalar are the factions, old gods as crisis factions and the battles are huge
I hold on that if they wanted to, they could easily patch up reforged and restore it, doesn't have to happen over night, or in a week but just acknowledge they F'ed up and set a team on fixing.
I was really hoping reforged would have lead to a small expansion that at least added some tavern heros. Some new units and a hero per race? I'd have cried. A fifth playable race!? Highlight of my 35+ gaming life. I still dream
It's incomprehensible to me how individual devs can create memorable and fresh gaming experiences completely by themselves in outdated engines. Meanwhile Blizzard has billions of dollars and can't even manage to successfully give WC3 a simple visual update.
@@saimyintmyat9373 havent played that game but yeah those would be sweet. im sure others have more clever ideas like i saw gnolls aswell. maybe elemental race aswell?
Here is the link to this amazing map if you want to try it out : www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/terenas-stand-8-races-v1-5.84447
Author already made bigger maps with 8 races in 2010, check it out
Did they fix demon race yet?
I think if you would of stayed on demons it would of picked them cuz prompt stays up till all players choose
hey Grubby, i'm the author of the map, and i have to say, as a 35 year old man i was shaking when i saw you play it. unfortunately i made it a while ago and i sucked at wc3, hence the balace issues. so if people really like it, they should bring it in this century and balance it, i fear though will be real hard to balance it. anyway, big fan of yours. much love
Amazing job Robert 😍
Please do more matches with these.
agreed. nice to see grubby explore new stuff and share his first experiences!
Yes
The crab feast ability can be abused so much. He can create a lot of murgul slaves to slaughter and feed the crabs or if teamed with undead can mass produce graveyards and up the damage of the crabs by a lot.
Agreed
+1
Please more of these matches Grubby, hear us out!!
I love seeing you discover these custom race maps Grubby! Any chance you will make more of these videos?
Many greetings from Austria :)
It's like with DnD these days, fans can produce better stuff than the official developer.
Wasnt it always like that? 🤔
@@SttravagaNZza
Yep. DOTA shows it and HoTS confirms it.
We should just get together and do 'WAR4."
@@SttravagaNZza Well, when things like Planescape were releasing back in the 2e days, DnD developers were on fire creating incredible stuff that was surpassing people's expectations.
I swear how does someone for free does something better
@@faikerdogan2802 Because when you're doing it for free the only reason to do it is because you're passionate about it. You don't have to worry about being forced to rush so that someone above you who doesn't care about the game can make some quick bucks.
These are great! There used to be a bunch of these back in frozen throne. I saw some with like 20 races and they had completely unique mechanics. Things like combining units, mana infrastructure and a bunch i can't even remember.
Ultimate Battle has tons of races, AI, you can play standard races, and it's available on multiple maps, from small to big!
Still breaks my heart that blizzard failed so hard on reforged. If they just cared, they could easily turned something great even greater.
This right here is a wonderful example
Younger devs = bad games
Why, everyone can port these races now to other maps via the editor and the best part for blizzard is that all the rights connected to this are now owned by blizzard! So you are technically working for blizzard meaning Blizzard made the map!
@@bifrostengaged1371are you serious man…
@@bifrostengaged1371cause blizzz is actually making custom maps and additional content youre saying ?
@@Lunatic-Beleren what, no. on reforged release they crushed the original wc3 and changed their licence agreement so that everything that is creating by anyone in their editor has its owner rights set to Blizzard Entertainment, since they are so fearful to lose out on another DotA
Hydra is my favorite creature in warcraft! I love how middle head calms othe heads.
Hydra in homm series also my favorite.
Yea 100% agreed, if reforged put out anything close to this, with solid visuals and sound. They would have made a huge success.
I want gnolls as a race :(
HGer! hero!
Same, wanted that since I was a kid. Probably will need to make it myself
@@sock05 😂
Doggo race!
It's so hard to find the ones with the custom races you want. But it 100% exists.
If random people can make this imagine how hard it would be for a whole blizz team who got shitload of money for their dumpster fire.
The best NAGA is the one from the Empire of the Tides LEGION Mod, it is well done, quite balanced, not even blizzard would have done it better, also this mod also brings the demon, bloodelf and troll
I'm 4 minutes in and I can agree this seems super well made and really fun, pleaseeee do more of this
That "Evolve" ability should cost some gold (or something else) to upgrade each unit, which means the player has to decide how many units (of that unit type) should evolve. Otherwise, it doesn't serve better than a simple upgrade, it only makes the player have to manually tell the unit(s) to evolve.
If you can pay gold per unit to upgrade them, it would open up new strategies. You may prefer making more base units and not upgrading them when you would be still at "No Upkeep" after making more of them. When you are close to the threshold of "Low Upkeep", you would prefer upgrading them.
"lets play it again sometime?" Lets play it again right now!!! :D This is so awsome
I made a bunch of maps like this back in the day for me and friends. Remade humans as Lordaeron Humans with inspiration from wc2, split off and made a Dwarf race, Blood Elves race (similar to the campaign but with a full 4 blood elven heroes), remade Undead into Scourge, split off and made Forsaken race, Burning Legion race, Illidari race, and neutral Dragon heroes (with human and dragon forms). I just never could figure out how to make it selectable at start - i just had full replacements of existing races and a wisp that could mind control a worker at the start.
if you still have them, upload them sonewhere
@@robertb.2063 changed pcs too many times since, it was in 2008-ish. Plus, I never credited the model makers (i used custom models from hive), the map was humongous in size (due to so many imported custom models), and it was probably poorly balanced considering i was like 13 years old at the time :)) I also remember the human/dragon forms being somewhat buggy, i think for some reason their human and dragon form abilities would overlap instead of replace each other, despite them being two different units with different abilities (i used druid of the talon crow form as a basis for the transformation iirc). I also used wow as a basis for some of my designs, such as a blood elf warlock that could convert its own hp into mana, but it had to be done through scripts because there wasn't an ability like that in the game, and I recall the script didn't work right because it gave mana for free instead of also damaging the unit.
I do miss map making in wc3, but with a 9 hour job i don't have time for it anymore, and wc3 is nowhere near as popular anymore
same, i made this in 2008 and i remember bnet limit being 4mb, and mine had 6mb. i think i used some custom models too and didnt credit creators. i guess quite a few people made altered melee maps back then, since the hive even had a category for it
I officially had my first dream about grubby playing. Not sure what that says about me...
Hmm and how does that make you feel?
I think its normal enough, once I dreamt about me walking in the park with Hitler after watching couple documentaries
MORE OF IT please!
would love to watch you play more custom game with various choices races.cheers grubby
This map kinda reminds of azeroth wars, lordaereon the foremath/aftermath. Please check these maps out, they are pretty epic too, including a slightly different Gold gaining adjustment and way bigger armies. The way how the warcraft3 storyline is set up there is just legendary.
Azeroth war was incredible, definitely agree with the suggestion. I'm sure Grubby would have so much fun replaying all the important warcraft events in one map.
Those are great but not really the same genre as this. And basically impossible to get into since you need a full lobby and a bunch of people of the same skill level.
@@yaelz6043 iam Not Sure whether zoom is still active. Let me have a Look and come back later. When there is a Willing to Do it we can arrange it. I'd consider joining myself.
Edit: Well, @Zoomsf uploaded a vid just 3 days ago. Seems pretty good 2 me.
@@MacSacred exactly. And we'd enjoy him having fun. Win/win.
where to get these maps from?
I want more of this, need more variety and diff heroes
i need more of this content. These races are awesome
5 levels? Wait this is not Dota xD
Cool map, we finally have demon and naga race! Glad to see Blizz update the game 🤣
In the original planned WC3, Burning legion was supposed to be a playable faction. They decided it needed to be more powerful for the campaign, thus didn't make sense as a playable race.
that's a silly excuse. You can just tweak the values of the units for the playable race
@@johannesschmitz6370 Yeah at the time their excuse made sense. But years later, not so much. As they could have had custom units only found in the campaign. They wanted the Burning Legion to seem overwhelming.
I think they were having a hard time balancing 4 playable factions as it was, so they abandoned the 5th.
Please more. That ffa idea was on point.
Hey Grubby, did you know you can have multiple Doom Guards at the same time in a 1v1? Two ways to do this. First, you can doom your own Tauren next to a healing fountain while also use healing wards to outheal the doom damage. Then just wait for the cooldown to doom a second Tauren, etc.
With human, doom your own unit and then have three heroes each use their staff of sanctuary on that unit. The healing from all three staffs stack. Then attack your unit with a couple peasants so that it doesn't heal too fast and cancel the staff healing effect. Then build up as many doomed units as you want.
love it... what about the draenei´s?
There are maps for all sorts of races, plenty with dreanai. The problem is finding them.
This is such a cool map, looking forward for more vids of this map
Lots of cool ideas honestly :D
My favorite races would probably be murlocs and kobolds :)
wow I didn't feel so curious for long time! great map to discover and for inspiration. wc3 is inevitably immortal and limitless game
This is awesome. Please play more of this!!
Thank you for the great content Grubby ❤
As someone who has tried to make Naga and Demon races myself I have to say I really love this content,
More content or show matches sound dope
You can do Grab attack again with naga
There's all sorts of really cool maps on hive with custom races. You should check out more.
This is so cool. Finally Grubby can go full crab-mode.
I’ve been away for a couple weeks and I have all this glorious content to catch up on !!
We need more videos on this please!
Wow! That was so crazy cool. I'd love to watch more of that
This is kinda like a mod I saw, that not only brings the Warcraft 2 campaigns into WC3 engine, but also remakes the missions, and in every chapter you play as a different faction (Humas: Azeroth, Stromgarde, Dalaran, etc and Orcs: Blackrock Clan, Burning Blade Clan, etc) each having slightly different gameplay with different strenths and weaknesses and unique looks. Now that's kinda a proper remake for the game.
Yeah dude you should totally play some more games here. Love the content and the variety is appreciated and fun
More pls. Fun to watch
My fav race NagA!
❤
Dude! This is gold! Play more on it! You can easily have like 100 videos with this
I've made one too many years ago:
Night Elves = Satyrs
Humans = Bandits/Mercenaries
Orcs = Cursed (red) Orcs/Ogres/Centaur mix
So many hours working on these maps. Man, those were the days
I remember maming custom maps back in the day to play as these off races. Super fun stuff, though my maps definitely didn't have as much stuff as this one!
I would love to see someone transfer the races into a FFA map and maybe give it some balance changes after a while of testing. *hype*
more please, loving this so far
It would be great to do some episodes with some of the map creators that historically made maps on warcraft 3. I think there are many people that would want to see what these map creators are up to now.
This is definitely a well made one. Most "extra races" maps don't have a looootttt of time spent on them.
lol bro you are the perfect peronality for a game streamer.. i fkn lol almost every video at your funny sounds and sayings! :) Keep doing whst you do bro 1💪😎👌
I was getting bored, but bro, if you make videos with this mod, I will watch every one of them. This makes me so happy. I've always wanted more and new races in WC3.
I'm just kidding, Grubby. I'm not bored. I love you, man.
pls play every race and every hero. i love that so much. thanks for the years of amazing battles.
A solid custom map(better than the last one) but still not as polished as I'd love to see. There must be one of these mods that goes full out, no race limitations, no weird bugs, clean tooltips, etc...
Imagine of this had Draeneis!! I can't wait to see other games, it looks so fun and I agree with Grubby i was expecting reforged to have naga as a playable race, that would have been insane
Very interesting concept and this race seems well made. Have to see about balancing tho
I recommend custom map "Warcraft Legacies", a good representation what WC4 could be.
Would love too see more. Looks amazing.
I know this map of the old days ^^ Please show us more games of this map 😀
Man, this is what I wanted from reforged, not even blizz official races but making it easier for players to make it.
Just watched your 2019 vs happy, luv you grubster!!
Years ago... I remixed the entire original version like this and balanced tested it as 11 Ai... as I hid my night elf tree in the corner of the map and turned on God mode then come back and checked it at days end... I had the blood elves instead of that "mech thing"... I should have released it... it's good to see others take that initative...
Very cool. 100% pls make more videos on this.
Please make more of this map. It's so fun
More playable races was my dream since I was a kid
Hey I played this a bunch with my friend back in wc3 :D , demon used to work though idk what's wrong with it here.
Another map i've been meaning to request is Warlords Empire by Avahor, it's a RTS map where you control units that evolve based on the kills they get , it's really micro intensive but it's a lot of fun and I think you'd be a beast at it , sadly the map was more or less abandoned by it's creator and most of the available races aren't fully finished.
I like this custom map video! Waiting for more :D
This is cool, would love to see more.
i remember the naga from one of the campaigns being partially done too
I bougth war3 reforged after having it refunded a week after launch, just because I spend to hours watching you every day anyway. Kinda really wanna only play this map from now on :D
play UB RUINS OF ALTERAC, a custom map with 24 races, you just have to find the right version for every race to work properly
More of this ❤ it is very interesting and new !🙏
I would like to see Trolls, Goblins, and Ogres. Not as one race, but as 3 of them.
Wow, what a great map! More matches with Naga please.
Can you sometimes play the new reforge graphics pls? Not always, just sometimes.
Yeah like an extra Mini Format, every week 1 or 2 reforges video wouldbe nice
I'm an Orc main. I played ROC when I was a kid, and thrilled when TFT came out. I played Human and Night Elf for a while, but they didn't speak to me. Orc is just my style.
Grubby is King of the Orcs, as any old player knows.
Grubby is the one guy everyone cam trust to be the best and least biased about balanced.
I think it would be good for the community if Grubby set the balance standard.
I don't want him to balance the game becauses I think he will make Orc Strongest. I want Ord to be 2nd strongest or 3rd most of the time so we have a challenge. Balance is way more complex than 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th strongest.
Balance should be in Flux.
Grubby need to try wc3 custom map warcraft legacies, the "new" azeroth wars. In my opinion that's how wc3 should be. Scourge, legion, lordaeron, quel, dalaran, stormwind, dwarfs, kul tiras, fel Horde, illidari, druids, draenei, sentinels, warsong, frostwolf and goblin/zandalar are the factions, old gods as crisis factions and the battles are huge
Warcraft 4 pog
Would be nice to see auras on a timer i think that would make the level 3s way less imba.
I need more matches with these
I love this factions❤
I hold on that if they wanted to, they could easily patch up reforged and restore it, doesn't have to happen over night, or in a week but just acknowledge they F'ed up and set a team on fixing.
I was really hoping reforged would have lead to a small expansion that at least added some tavern heros. Some new units and a hero per race? I'd have cried. A fifth playable race!? Highlight of my 35+ gaming life. I still dream
picking the race in the game is also a very nice feature
Can't wait for this to be the new DoTA
MORE OF THIS PLEASE!
You getting hype about tournaments using balanced custom races got me hype about it to. Please do itttt.
This is a glimpse of a different timeline where it could have been
Alas, we can't have good things
Amazing game play!! Really want to try em
we need more of this
More of this map, with other races please.
🤩🤟🏻 Nice game
Maeby nextime gnolls furbolg tusk or troll rases
Like monolit map but a Lot of better
It's incomprehensible to me how individual devs can create memorable and fresh gaming experiences completely by themselves in outdated engines.
Meanwhile Blizzard has billions of dollars and can't even manage to successfully give WC3 a simple visual update.
PLEASE MORE game like dis
Love to see the custom content can you do some FFA Matches with custom races ?
Been fantasizing about playing as naga, demons or draenei since i played frozen throne in 2004... Too bad this never came to be.
If you play this again, can you check the Tavern and see if there are other fun heroes added or if its just the default ones?
if i could make a race it would be angels or the divine. Also a dragonborn race could be cool
Diablo races then.
@@saimyintmyat9373 havent played that game but yeah those would be sweet. im sure others have more clever ideas like i saw gnolls aswell. maybe elemental race aswell?
Imagine playing naga with a buddy UD player and using that players graveyard to gain corpses for more limbs…
I know you check the comments Grubby !!! MAKE MOREE OF THESE hahah very fun ggs
There's already one more game coming very soon to the channel :D
Obviously you'll have to try out every race now :)
More of this please !!