Why'd you say "sue me"? It's weirdly confrontational with absolutely no reason to be. People not liking something you like is not a slight against you.
It’s an unabashedly fun film with great visuals and locations. Tons of other film and literary references and no it did not feel too long. In fact I’ve seen it several times. Hard to say sometimes why people like or dislike a film but this review didn’t go far enough in explaining either position.
Sounds like Verbinski should team up with someone who has a better grasp on storytelling and focus on the visuals. Because from what I have seen, he seems to be very adept at the latter.
I really love this movie, and I wanna see what Mark Kermode thinks about it. Why has Mark not done a review of it? Please Mark can we hear a review from you about it?
Was disappointed in Cure For Wellness. It's not bad, but it's overlong by about 40-45 minutes. There's a good atmosphere to it, everything feels suitably 'off' about the place, there's some nice creepy imagery and it's shot well. Decent performances too. But it's padded like mad, and there needed to be a bit more freaky stuff in there. Sad really, as the trailer was good and raised my expectations for it.
Agreed. Padding through the roof. Felt also very repetitive; he leaves his room. He finds something suspicious. He is caught and escorted back to his room. Rinse and repeat. Felt myself about 45 minutes - an Hour before my end checking the time.
Eeels up inside ya, findin' an entrance where they can... I liked the bit in Cure for Wellness where the main guy danced with Elsie, but then again, course he did, we all did...
It's over 2 and a half hours long and didn't spend any of that time tying up any loose ends or even going deep into any back stories. Even the parts that were meant to be atmospheric just felt so drawn out and dull. The scene where Lockhart smashes the painting is basically a visual metaphor for this film. Yeah congrats on the aesthetics, but arrghhh where's my bloody substance!?
I saw it, wasn't that good for me. commercials hype it scariest movie of the year, but wasn't scary at all. sorry to bring up a spoiler, but how did he escape that chair he was locked in when they drilled one of his tooth? I don't think they would just let him go and allow him to run to the police.
Gore Verbinski has nothing to prove. He has made continuously terrific movies, including the amazing Rango (2011) and in my own personal opinion The Lone Ranger (while an undeniable Box Office disaster) was really well made with some of the best visuals ever put to screen.
Calum Macdonald Oh yes, the first Pirates of the Caribbean was great, and people wanted sequels so they got them. But since the running time was pretty long, critics got tired soon and gave the two sequels mixed reviews. However, if you actually loved the first movie and wanted more of the same amazingly shot/edited action with great visuals, then you most likely love or at least appreciate Dead Man's Chest and At World's End.
I only really like Rango and I guess the first Pirates of the Caribbean (it had a simple lot at least). I think he's doing very good visuals (and not in the Zack Snyder kind of way) but I don't think he's good at either story telling or actor direction.
John Peat Okay that's you opinion but just one thing, what do you mean by "LIKE MOST PEOPLE'. As a matter of fact the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie is almost universally loved (with some haters here and there ofc).
I did enjoy it but I thought it never really merged its themes well enough. It was quite ambitious trying to link its critique of the wellness industry with the wider scope of all corporate greed, and then again linking it to aristocratic incest which shares the "purity" obsession with wellness. It feels a little like it would have worked better on a whiteboard than it did in reality, it makes conceptual sense to link those things together but it doesn't feel like it makes a whole lot of sense at the time because those links are all a bit too tenuous in the way they are presented I did find it more successfully horrifying that everyone else in this comments section seems to have though, I was fully engaged with it and thought the creepy vibe was maintained very well the whole way. I am one of those people who hasn't yet seen all the films Robbie mentions that it is indebted too, and I did really enjoy it, even though I think it could have been better. So maybe I really need to watch those films
Agree with Robbie. Pro's: Great production values. The location was the star of the movie. Con's: Felt like two movies grafted together. The plot, the tone and the logic changed part way through so it didn't tie together in the end. On actors, Dane DH just wasn't believable in the role. And I felt sorry for Mia Goth having to get her t*ts fondled on film again.
This guy's take on the movie is so surface level it hurts, plus he basically admits he didn't understand it in the slightest. And people like this call themselves critics?
Although some gross moments and a really over-the-top ending, this is quite a suspenseful movie. I know you're supposed to dislike Verbinski's movies but the story was rather engrossing, the acting was okay (I've watched the French-dubbed version not the English, which might actually change a few things there...) and it is, overall, an entertaining movie.
From the opening act of ‘A Cure for Wellness’ I thought that it might run along the lines of Alan Parker’s ‘The Road to Wellville’, but as the tale unfurled it was clear that this was more in tune with slightly ropey Hammer Horror. It was OK: not particularly scary; not particularly thrilling (way to many plot spoilers in the trailer); had a couple of scenes that were in very poor taste; but it eventually got to its inevitable end without completely failing. 2/5
(Spoilers). I enjoyed this film but frustratingly it was less than the sum of its parts. Excellent cast (nice to see Celia Imrie), great design and cinematography, lots of creepy incident. But the plot was a let down. So much rambling and intriguing mystery which promised much but ultimately had such an off-the-peg 'disturbing' pay-off: nazi incest. For such a long, seemingly thoughtful film, it was actually surprising how predictable the b-movie reveal was. Who doesn't hate nazi incest!? Ruthless evil corporate types are ruthless and evil! Made me want to rewatch something like Kill List or even The Conversation, dark thrillers where the denouement lives up to the dread and complexity of the set up.
They hardly care about this channel, I listen to the podcast weekly and very rarely do they even refer to it. They're advertised by the BBC anyway, so what do they care?
I dislike Robbie's reviews more each time I hear a new one. He always gives half the plot away and ruins key scenes with excessive details, get someone else in!
"It's not an eel-good movie." Terribly silly joke, but I did laugh out loud.
"It makes Tim Burton look like Ken Loach"
Put that on the poster! Ha
:)
Movie is creepy, unusual and BRILLIANT! Never seen anything like it. Acting perfect, totally original, beautiful scenery.
I loved this movie. Sue me.
Why'd you say "sue me"? It's weirdly confrontational with absolutely no reason to be. People not liking something you like is not a slight against you.
So did i
It’s an unabashedly fun film with great visuals and locations. Tons of other film and literary references and no it did not feel too long. In fact I’ve seen it several times. Hard to say sometimes why people like or dislike a film but this review didn’t go far enough in explaining either position.
@@dennett316 stop being a nerd
Didn't mind the running time, I got right into the atmospehre it presented.
I so wish Kermode had reviewed this. He would've torn it apart.
I think it's equally likely that he would have liked it.
*Kermodian head tilt. "Mm..."
No he wouldn’t. In fact he would have defended it.
Sounds like Verbinski should team up with someone who has a better grasp on storytelling and focus on the visuals. Because from what I have seen, he seems to be very adept at the latter.
6:09 That's _exactly_ how I felt at the end of it all. :(
I really love this movie, and I wanna see what Mark Kermode thinks about it. Why has Mark not done a review of it? Please Mark can we hear a review from you about it?
Was disappointed in Cure For Wellness. It's not bad, but it's overlong by about 40-45 minutes. There's a good atmosphere to it, everything feels suitably 'off' about the place, there's some nice creepy imagery and it's shot well. Decent performances too. But it's padded like mad, and there needed to be a bit more freaky stuff in there. Sad really, as the trailer was good and raised my expectations for it.
Agreed. Padding through the roof. Felt also very repetitive; he leaves his room. He finds something suspicious. He is caught and escorted back to his room. Rinse and repeat. Felt myself about 45 minutes - an Hour before my end checking the time.
Correction: It's overlong by about 2 hours and 26 minutes.
I had Eels from The Mighty Boosh as an earworm when I saw the writeups!
Eeels up inside ya, findin' an entrance where they can...
I liked the bit in Cure for Wellness where the main guy danced with Elsie, but then again, course he did, we all did...
I thought the film was excellent. It was a tribute to the films of Mario Bava and Dario Argento
I hope you two have/get your own show or podcast because I love listening to you together and your opinions
Really good film.
Love this movie
I love Simon and Robbie. More Robbie!
NoodTayne No. Where's Mark?
It's over 2 and a half hours long and didn't spend any of that time tying up any loose ends or even going deep into any back stories. Even the parts that were meant to be atmospheric just felt so drawn out and dull. The scene where Lockhart smashes the painting is basically a visual metaphor for this film. Yeah congrats on the aesthetics, but arrghhh where's my bloody substance!?
I saw it, wasn't that good for me. commercials hype it scariest movie of the year, but wasn't scary at all. sorry to bring up a spoiler, but how did he escape that chair he was locked in when they drilled one of his tooth? I don't think they would just let him go and allow him to run to the police.
Gore Verbinski has nothing to prove. He has made continuously terrific movies, including the amazing Rango (2011) and in my own personal opinion The Lone Ranger (while an undeniable Box Office disaster) was really well made with some of the best visuals ever put to screen.
Gent M ba dum dum sphhhh
Continuously terrific? Are you aware Dead Man's Chest and At Worlds End are in his filmography?
Calum Macdonald Oh yes, the first Pirates of the Caribbean was great, and people wanted sequels so they got them. But since the running time was pretty long, critics got tired soon and gave the two sequels mixed reviews. However, if you actually loved the first movie and wanted more of the same amazingly shot/edited action with great visuals, then you most likely love or at least appreciate Dead Man's Chest and At World's End.
I only really like Rango and I guess the first Pirates of the Caribbean (it had a simple lot at least).
I think he's doing very good visuals (and not in the Zack Snyder kind of way) but I don't think he's good at either story telling or actor direction.
John Peat Okay that's you opinion but just one thing, what do you mean by "LIKE MOST PEOPLE'. As a matter of fact the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie is almost universally loved (with some haters here and there ofc).
AWESOME MOVIE 👌👍
I did enjoy it but I thought it never really merged its themes well enough. It was quite ambitious trying to link its critique of the wellness industry with the wider scope of all corporate greed, and then again linking it to aristocratic incest which shares the "purity" obsession with wellness.
It feels a little like it would have worked better on a whiteboard than it did in reality, it makes conceptual sense to link those things together but it doesn't feel like it makes a whole lot of sense at the time because those links are all a bit too tenuous in the way they are presented
I did find it more successfully horrifying that everyone else in this comments section seems to have though, I was fully engaged with it and thought the creepy vibe was maintained very well the whole way.
I am one of those people who hasn't yet seen all the films Robbie mentions that it is indebted too, and I did really enjoy it, even though I think it could have been better. So maybe I really need to watch those films
beautiful looking film. too long. not scary. but i thought it wasn't bad.
Agree with Robbie.
Pro's: Great production values. The location was the star of the movie.
Con's: Felt like two movies grafted together. The plot, the tone and the logic changed part way through so it didn't tie together in the end. On actors, Dane DH just wasn't believable in the role. And I felt sorry for Mia Goth having to get her t*ts fondled on film again.
We want Mark back.
I liked it
This guy's take on the movie is so surface level it hurts, plus he basically admits he didn't understand it in the slightest. And people like this call themselves critics?
Although some gross moments and a really over-the-top ending, this is quite a suspenseful movie. I know you're supposed to dislike Verbinski's movies but the story was rather engrossing, the acting was okay (I've watched the French-dubbed version not the English, which might actually change a few things there...) and it is, overall, an entertaining movie.
From the opening act of ‘A Cure for Wellness’ I thought that it might run along the lines of Alan Parker’s ‘The Road to Wellville’, but as the tale unfurled it was clear that this was more in tune with slightly ropey Hammer Horror. It was OK: not particularly scary; not particularly thrilling (way to many plot spoilers in the trailer); had a couple of scenes that were in very poor taste; but it eventually got to its inevitable end without completely failing. 2/5
First half good but then became silly and confusing.
I've just seen this. If you've seen any Hammer Horror films, it's like a tribute of those. But done very badly. Avoid.
(Spoilers). I enjoyed this film but frustratingly it was less than the sum of its parts. Excellent cast (nice to see Celia Imrie), great design and cinematography, lots of creepy incident. But the plot was a let down. So much rambling and intriguing mystery which promised much but ultimately had such an off-the-peg 'disturbing' pay-off: nazi incest. For such a long, seemingly thoughtful film, it was actually surprising how predictable the b-movie reveal was. Who doesn't hate nazi incest!? Ruthless evil corporate types are ruthless and evil! Made me want to rewatch something like Kill List or even The Conversation, dark thrillers where the denouement lives up to the dread and complexity of the set up.
Mark I know this is straight the radio show, but this guy and other reviews are exactly why this channel will never be massive
They hardly care about this channel, I listen to the podcast weekly and very rarely do they even refer to it. They're advertised by the BBC anyway, so what do they care?
I dislike Robbie's reviews more each time I hear a new one. He always gives half the plot away and ruins key scenes with excessive details, get someone else in!