Why Doesn't the U.S. Know About its Own Dutch Origins?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @metal123498
    @metal123498 3 года назад +1609

    Possibly one of the most overlooked parts of Dutch influence on America today is the Dutch declaration of independence, the act of abjuration, written almost 200 years before the American. It was the first time ideas like freedom of religion and the people's right to do away with their monarch if they are a tyrant were uttered and the American revolutionaries were inspired by parts of it.

    • @Student0Toucher
      @Student0Toucher 3 года назад +13

      America is number 1🤡

    • @pietsnotty8283
      @pietsnotty8283 3 года назад +198

      @@Student0Toucher Nr. 1 in being a 3rd world banana republic ;)

    • @Student0Toucher
      @Student0Toucher 3 года назад +4

      @@pietsnotty8283 Thats why You’re on youtube talking bad about America on a American app🤟

    • @pietsnotty8283
      @pietsnotty8283 3 года назад +92

      @@Student0Toucher One thing has nothing to do with the other. The 3rd world part is for instance about the lack of social healthcare, which they have in 3rd world countries, yet not in America. The banana republic part, well that one is obvious innit! ;)

    • @Student0Toucher
      @Student0Toucher 3 года назад

      @S Hendriks Australians invented wifi lol also America invented GPS,Internet,airplane,phone,Television and much more

  • @Metalmania1984
    @Metalmania1984 3 года назад +2882

    Brooklyn - Breukelen (dutch city)
    Harlem - Haarlem (dutch city)
    Broadway - Brede weg (wide road)
    Wallstreet - Wal straat ("wal" as in surrounding of a city, like "de wallen" in Amsterdam.
    The Bronx - van Bronck's boerderij (farm)
    Coney Island - Conynen/Konijnen (rabbit) Eiland
    Staten Island - Staeten (old dutch for Staten-Generaal or parliament) eiland
    Block island - Adriaan Block (explorer)
    Flushing - Vlissingen (dutch city)
    Bridge street - Brugweg (free translated)
    Bowery Lane - Bouwerij (old dutch word for farm) laan
    Bushwick - Boswijk
    More fun facts:
    Donuts are actually "oliebollen" which is basically Dough fried in oil (hence the name). But as oil was scarce and very expensive, a hole was made in the oliebol so less oil was needed to fry them.
    Dollar is derived from the word Daalder, a dutch coin.
    Thanksgiving was introduced by the pilgrim fathers, who lived some time in the city of Leiden in Holland. In leiden, every 3rd of October, it is being celebrated how the city was liberated from the spanish. The way thanksgiving is celebrated is partly derived from those celebrations in Leiden.
    Yankees was a nickname for inhabitants of the dutch staten colony. Altough there are more theories about the origin of the word, It is believed it might be coming from Jan-Kees, a common dutch male name.

    • @martinhertog5357
      @martinhertog5357 3 года назад +90

      Flushing - Vlissingen (dutch city), Wall Street - Waal straat

    • @Jim-lg8sf
      @Jim-lg8sf 3 года назад +177

      Rhode Island = Rood Eiland

    • @antoniescargo4158
      @antoniescargo4158 3 года назад +56

      Ik kom uit Breukelen. Breukelen is een dorp, geen stad. Een city is een stad met een kathedraal.

    • @kinganfield9407
      @kinganfield9407 3 года назад +13

      Hey Jelle. Waar kan ik dit allemaal kijken of lezen ? Zijn er boeken van of iets vind dit wel leuk om in te verdiepen ,😚

    • @besmart3191
      @besmart3191 3 года назад +36

      Veel aannames maar geen bevestegingen

  • @BrutusAlbion
    @BrutusAlbion 3 года назад +872

    I always try to colonize New Amsterdam as the Netherlands in Europe Universalis.

    • @geosophik9369
      @geosophik9369 3 года назад +8

      I always try to keep New Amsterdam in Lenape territory (with cheats) in EU II :)

    • @stefanklomp3347
      @stefanklomp3347 3 года назад +3

      Great game!

    • @ricardokamp7213
      @ricardokamp7213 3 года назад +2

      U wish u had coffeeshops there haha

    • @BrutusAlbion
      @BrutusAlbion 3 года назад +17

      @@ricardokamp7213 I have coffeeshops right around the corner here ... I live in the netherlands after all.
      But honestly the US policy on marijuana is more lax and less restrictive than dutch laws. By comparison ... we are backwards and primitive now lol.
      All the weed innovation which used to be one of our strength has been usurped by the american industries now which are much much larger and more innovative compared to dutch ones.

    • @ricardokamp7213
      @ricardokamp7213 3 года назад

      Maybe i should move there then hahaha never knew it changed like that

  • @yok0hama447
    @yok0hama447 3 года назад +761

    I’m Dutch, I have family in the USA, when a few years back during Thanksgiving I mentioned about New Amsterdam, nobody on the table knew this fact that it belonged to us before.. It was really surprising to me.

    • @keesbos4147
      @keesbos4147 3 года назад +50

      Tell them that some Presidents had Dutch familie :)
      Or that WiFi and Bluetooth an Dutch invention is :)

    • @ericheuvel7864
      @ericheuvel7864 3 года назад +31

      @@keesbos4147 ... and the Casette-tape & CD. Developed by Philips together with Sony.

    • @harenterberge2632
      @harenterberge2632 3 года назад +2

      Autocorrect error with "supersizing"?

    • @keesbos4147
      @keesbos4147 3 года назад

      @@ericheuvel7864 jep :)

    • @djornvanduuren3310
      @djornvanduuren3310 3 года назад +30

      @@keesbos4147 goed geengelst kees!

  • @barthvos845
    @barthvos845 3 года назад +449

    Are people in New York known to be more direct towards being slightly blunt compared to the rest of the US? If so that might be a charactaristic left over from the Dutch history of New York.

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +158

      They are lol. I actually just read the first chapter of “The First Tycoon” which is about Cornelius Vanderbilt and it mentioned that some found New York refreshing to do business because they were direct while people in Philadelphia beat around the bush.

    • @minephlip
      @minephlip 3 года назад +107

      @@GeographyGeek yeah that sounds about Dutch. Here in the netherlands we don't always realise it, but we say almost everything exactly as we mean it, not beating around the bush or using more subtle language most of the time. I for one actually like it much better that way. It can be cold but at least you won't be left wondering what someone truly thinks of you.

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 3 года назад +9

      @@GeographyGeek thats their dutch dna popping out lol

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 3 года назад +10

      @Wim Privé inderdaad. Maar de waarheid is ook het best te zeggen. Beter dan een leugen die later harder terug komt

    • @Klementoso
      @Klementoso 3 года назад +22

      I never understand why people have problems with people being direct and honest.
      Sure, being nice is good. But the people who are known to be less direct, usually aren’t genuinely nice. They may not say things directly, but may let it shine through in their behavior or talk behind your back.
      At least when someone’s direct, you know what you’ve got. Being honest and direct isn’t’ rude. I’d rather call it being fair.
      I’d rather have someone tell me they have a problem with me. Then I know they also mean it when they’re nice. And won’t smile and compliment me, then turn around and flip me off.

  • @Cambutalgirl
    @Cambutalgirl 3 года назад +274

    As a Dutch, I hope more Americans learn about this. Read a book about it some time ago. Very interesting

    • @jaspermeisner2932
      @jaspermeisner2932 3 года назад +3

      Me too

    • @guillermogorissen3375
      @guillermogorissen3375 3 года назад +1

      Hebben jullie dit op school gehad met geschiedenis?

    • @Cambutalgirl
      @Cambutalgirl 3 года назад +4

      @@guillermogorissen3375 nee helaas niet veel. Wel een beetje maar niet uitgebreid… Heb er zelf een boek over gelezen. De Hollandse Indiaan.

    • @drjohnson98
      @drjohnson98 3 года назад

      Is that book available in English? What is the title?

    • @Cambutalgirl
      @Cambutalgirl 3 года назад +1

      @@drjohnson98 Hello. I don’t think so. But it was called: Hendrick de Hollandsche Indiaan. Very interesting! There are plenty of more books though. Look them up.

  • @MaxGamingNL
    @MaxGamingNL 3 года назад +162

    Holy fuck imagine if America ended up speaking Dutch. It would be a world language and I wouldn’t have to write this comment in English

    • @Evilanious
      @Evilanious 3 года назад +35

      Was dat ff handig geweest!

    • @semrappange2013
      @semrappange2013 3 года назад +5

      If only🥲

    • @johanhobo
      @johanhobo 3 года назад +8

      Ik woon in Amsterdam, voelde mij in NewYork meteen thuis ! Is er toch iets blijven hangen 😄

    • @toomessy
      @toomessy 3 года назад +12

      ....except, that depends.
      Remember, British people invented and speak English too, and they're ALSO a very important reason as to why many people speak English today (colonization)

    • @johnbutt6912
      @johnbutt6912 2 года назад +5

      Yes you would have "clogged " up this message board!!!

  • @Blaqjaqshellaq
    @Blaqjaqshellaq 3 года назад +24

    Famous Dutch-Americans include:
    Founding Father John Jay
    Four presidents (Martin Van Buren--son of a Dutch immigrant--Warren Harding and both Roosevelts)
    Gunfighter Wyatt Earp (Like John Wayne, he came from Madison county, Iowa, famous for bridges built by Dutch-Americans.)
    Artist Willem de Kooning
    Actor Henry Fonda
    Comedian Dick Van Dyke
    Novelist John Updike
    Singer Bruce Springsteen
    Dutch words in American English: cookie, boss, cole slaw, spook, bazooka, trek, poppycock, Santa Claus
    Russell Shorto's book is excellent!

    • @Barricade379
      @Barricade379 4 месяца назад

      Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt. The surname alone means "field of roses" in Dutch. Also other known Americans with Dutch roots are, to name a few:
      Christina Aguilera
      Alison Brie
      Dan Aykroyd
      Moon Bloodgood
      Humphrey Bogart
      Marlon Brando
      Clancy Brown
      Steve Buscemi
      Members of the Carradine acting family
      Robert De Niro
      Thomas Dekker
      Michael Douglas
      Clint Eastwood
      Ace Frehley
      Paul Giamatti
      Bryce Dallas Howard
      Ron Howard
      Clint Howard
      Angeline Jolie
      Michelle Pfeiffer
      Bill Pullman
      Jason Ritter
      John Ritter
      Bruce Springsteen(his surname in Dutch means "jumping rock/stone")
      Cobie Smulders
      Shirley Temple
      Charlize Theron
      Gus Van Sant
      Dionne Warwick

    • @Blaqjaqshellaq
      @Blaqjaqshellaq 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Barricade379 Charlize Theron, of course, comes from South Africa's Dutch community.

    • @Barricade379
      @Barricade379 4 месяца назад

      @@Blaqjaqshellaq Still Dutch roots

    • @Dalt21
      @Dalt21 3 месяца назад

      Also if you look at a lot of rivers in the New York, New Jersey and PA area you’ll see the rivers end in “kill” . For example one of the larger rivers that flows outside Philly is the Schuylkill River. Which I believe means “hidden river” in Dutch

    • @Geertt
      @Geertt 2 месяца назад +1

      Forgot Cornelius Vanderbilt, the richest man in the world in the late 19th century

  • @joey199412
    @joey199412 3 года назад +256

    Most of this is taught in the Netherlands. Just not in the US.
    There's a Dutch joke where a Dutchman visits New York City and an American asks them where they are from. The Dutchman says "Holland" to which the American replies "Oh, I'm from the Bronx" (dutch city and NYC neighborhood next to neighborhood of holland).

    • @RIcklacantina
      @RIcklacantina 3 года назад +86

      That is no dutch joke for no dutchman would ever say he is from holland, but from the netherlands

    • @frisianprideworldwide
      @frisianprideworldwide 3 года назад +49

      @@RIcklacantina he probably ment Haarlem and not Holland

    • @swampertdeck
      @swampertdeck 3 года назад +51

      I’m Dutch (from the city of Haarlem) and I often tell people I’m from Holland (which is true). In Some countries they know what “Holland” is, but not “The Netherlands”, so Holland is easier.

    • @ingridwatsup9671
      @ingridwatsup9671 3 года назад +9

      In the 17th century Delft pottery ware had “made in Delft Holland” on it and was widely exported so…..”Holland” was used for selling goods (long ago) from the prosperous counties of North and South Holland.

    • @amossutandi
      @amossutandi 3 года назад +3

      @TheWeeaboo it's not england, it's the uk. well, both england and holland are the most influential parts of their countries.

  • @billieboybuddha4238
    @billieboybuddha4238 3 года назад +415

    The Dutch basically introduced The American Dream

    • @puikepuck
      @puikepuck 3 года назад +21

      Not too sure about that. We mostly introduced slavery to the USA. A reason why the Dutch don't really know much about the Dutch history of the USA either: it's a bit embarrassing.

    • @billieboybuddha4238
      @billieboybuddha4238 3 года назад +75

      @@puikepuck Total nonsense

    • @billieboybuddha4238
      @billieboybuddha4238 3 года назад +16

      @Marnix Kalkman So were the Roosevelts, basically :)

    • @jimmys1558
      @jimmys1558 3 года назад +46

      @@puikepuck slavery was already invented by every tribe way before the netherlands existed. We did introduce the stock exchange though.

    • @sjoerdie
      @sjoerdie 3 года назад +11

      @@puikepuck go back to your left antifa basement. You don’t know anything… Read ‘Bloedblarre’ his comment for example!

  • @vanderhaat1470
    @vanderhaat1470 4 месяца назад +7

    Great video! Being Dutch, this part of history isnt really much taught at schools here either. The only part everyone knows here is that New York was once New Amsterdam but to end the war, after the Dutch navy devastated the English fleet in their homeland, the treaty of Breda was signed and gave New Amsterdam to the English and Suriname to the Republic of the 7 provinces.
    It does not surprise me that William Burr rewrote history to erase Dutch influence since he was still salty over the defeat. This didnt just happen to the Americas, Australia (New Holland) was also completely renamed by the English. Cape Town, Tasmania, Easter Island to name a few more.

    • @willemdejong2235
      @willemdejong2235 3 месяца назад +1

      There down under is still Arnhemland in the north, nearby Darwin , Kakadu park etc. Ship Arnhem from Holland.

  • @alumpyhorse
    @alumpyhorse 3 года назад +54

    beautiful maps. really enjoy your videos, you’ve found your calling and doing great. -greets from a fellow Virginian (now living in Amsterdam

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +11

      Thank you!! That means a lot. I think I have found it as well, I am grateful other people enjoy what I make.

  • @WouterDieks
    @WouterDieks 7 месяцев назад +11

    What a lot of Americans don't know is that the Dutch provided weapons during the war of Indepedence.

    • @RogerKeulen
      @RogerKeulen 3 месяца назад +2

      No, some one has payed for it.
      I know the dutch people.

    • @erikkz
      @erikkz 2 месяца назад +1

      @@RogerKeulen "providing" doesn't mean "gratis". "Donated" or "gave away" do mean it was for free.

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 3 года назад +681

    "Why Doesn't the U.S. Know About its Own Dutch Origins?"
    You are asking Americans to know anything other then America exists, that's asking too much. The average American don't even know any other countries exists, after all.

    • @MsMeyara
      @MsMeyara 3 года назад +21

      Lol, that was exactly what I was going to say. What do Americans know beside their own country? They also often think that they create everything. So many Dutch inventions that influence them without them even knowing it.

    • @ingeborgsvensson4896
      @ingeborgsvensson4896 3 года назад +62

      I watched a documentary about a man who lived in an RV his whole life claiming he had travelled the world with it. I was wondering how he crossed oceans with it untill I heard him say "from Seattle to Miami". Turned out he had never left the country. :)

    • @bramboeshoe905
      @bramboeshoe905 3 года назад +19

      They know about Russia and China, believe me. But I guess they can think it is on another planet.

    • @eveline1725
      @eveline1725 3 года назад +18

      I used to believe this until I moved to America - now I feel embarrassed that I generalized Americans like that. I met so many intelligent and knowledgeable people here.

    • @lorena5mash
      @lorena5mash 3 года назад +18

      @@eveline1725 I've lived there for a while, and yes, plenty of intelligent, well-spoken and informed people actually live there. I had a great time there, and you'll never get those nuances if you've never actually spent any time there. But still you'll find a good many others to confirm some of those stereotypes (which obviously happens wherever you'll go in the world). I had teenagers that asked me if we had TVs and cars in the Netherlands, which made me laugh my butt off. It's not their fault their country's education system is failing them in their world view, but it is. It has something extremely appealing, the way they love their country and believe the world revolves around it, when you're there. And I mean it is a wonderful country aesthetically and culturally speaking. But it comes with its flaws as does any country, and I believe their self-centered city on a hill view of who they are as a people and country and what they mean to the world..that's definitely defined their whole identity, but for some people it serves as quite an impairment because they'll continue to have blinders on when looking at and reviewing the rest of the world.

  • @NoodleCollectors
    @NoodleCollectors 3 года назад +40

    Excellent video! Iam Dutch myself and being a pretty big historic "geek" i learned alot by watching your Dutch/America video's.

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! Glad to hear!

    • @dotty4994
      @dotty4994 Год назад

      @Sturmzug congrats another Dutch person trying to be American so bad

    • @NoodleCollectors
      @NoodleCollectors Год назад

      @@dotty4994 Nah thanks, i wouldn't like living in that third world country😘

  • @ericsmathe
    @ericsmathe Год назад +10

    I live in Kingston, NY, and the old deeds and documents here are in Dutch. I love the history here.

  • @vwabi
    @vwabi 3 года назад +36

    Also for the Hamilton fans, the Schuyler sisters were a Dutch family. Yes they lived in America of course, but they actually spoke Dutch in their family house.

  • @WaddenSeaSiren
    @WaddenSeaSiren 3 года назад +140

    Thanks for not using "Holland" incorrectly to describe the entire country! As a Northern Dutchwoman, I appreciate that.

    • @johnbutt6912
      @johnbutt6912 2 года назад +11

      As someone from Holland I am deeply offended by your remarks! Vive la Holland!

    • @protectorh9167
      @protectorh9167 2 года назад +2

      Oh wat erg zeg Holland Holland Holland

    • @johnbutt6912
      @johnbutt6912 2 года назад +2

      @@protectorh9167
      It was a joke. No offence meant.

    • @marsmellow1589
      @marsmellow1589 2 года назад +3

      @@johnbutt6912 Dan moet Grutte Pier maar even op bezoek komen.

    • @johnbutt6912
      @johnbutt6912 2 года назад +1

      @@marsmellow1589
      I don't speak Dutch but are you inviting me to see a famous seaside pier?!

  • @jaceymartin4739
    @jaceymartin4739 2 года назад +21

    As a history teacher and a person of Dutch descent, I can't tell how much I appreciate your channel.
    It is laughable that many schools ignore early settlement by Dutch, including NY. (barely in the curriculum)
    My ancestors all settled in Tarrytown and Peekskill, NY, respectively.

    • @RudyBleeker
      @RudyBleeker Год назад +4

      Tarrytown, aka tarwe (Dutch word for wheat) town.
      Peekskill, derived from the surname of Jan Peeck, who was the first person to make formal contact with the Lenape or Sachoes people in the area and later formalized a trade deal with them, and the word "kil" or "kill", which is old Dutch for stream aka a small or narrow river.

    • @jaceymartin4739
      @jaceymartin4739 Год назад +2

      @@RudyBleeker Very interesting channle; I know "kil" means creek. However, to most the suffix can be a bit off putting. ( like Fishkill:))) There are a few loan words used in American Standard English that derives from Dutch, '

    • @Dalt21
      @Dalt21 3 месяца назад

      @@jaceymartin4739 Philly area had a lot of dutch influence also. For instance the Schuylkill River in Philly Schuylkill means “hidden river”

  • @laurahubbard9470
    @laurahubbard9470 Год назад +6

    Thank you for the series of videos. I am a descendent of these Dutch settlers of New Netherlands/Amsterdam and Long Island. It has always saddened me that we Americans don’t know much of this part of our history.

  • @herfkr
    @herfkr 4 месяца назад +4

    For the Louisiana purchase in 1803 the US borrowed five million dollars from Hope&co in the Netherlands and the wealthy Dutch could buy a share in this deal.
    The “Gemeente Amsterdam stadsarchief” (city archives) includes the Bank Mees&Hope archives, and has some original documents.

  • @pietergreveling
    @pietergreveling 3 года назад +312

    Fun fact, the Pilgrims of the Mayflower left the Netherlands, because it was too liberal, they only wanted freedom for their own religion! 😁✌🏼

    • @billieboybuddha4238
      @billieboybuddha4238 3 года назад +57

      Right, they were just a bunch of extremists

    • @Terrorrai1
      @Terrorrai1 3 года назад +52

      They wanted the freedom to opress others

    • @RedbadofFrisia
      @RedbadofFrisia 3 года назад +31

      @@Terrorrai1 is it really freedom if you can't even opress others?

    • @Terrorrai1
      @Terrorrai1 3 года назад +18

      @@RedbadofFrisia spirit of the USA!

    • @benjik3161
      @benjik3161 3 года назад +6

      and in the american books they say they wanted it even more free bitch we where too free

  • @ecamp6360
    @ecamp6360 Год назад +18

    Growing up in NYC, we learned this history pretty well. Shorto's book posed the same question. I didn't realize other states don't teach this history. Also, you mention Roosevelts, but Martin van Buren actually spoke Dutch as his first language.

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 8 месяцев назад +2

      His actually Dutch name was Maarten van Buren. Which sounds like Martin in English.
      Theodore and Franklin D. Roosevelt also had Dutch origins.

    • @vernicejillmagsino9603
      @vernicejillmagsino9603 7 месяцев назад

      @@Joey-ct8bm FDR fit Belgian Americans before he has roots in France and the Netherlands both countries language are the languages of Belgium

  • @RudyBleeker
    @RudyBleeker Год назад +5

    A fun anecdote to the point you make around the 7:00 mark. The grandfather of a friend of mine once met an American man in Amsterdam who had taught himself Dutch from old Dutch primary school books and other Dutch texts. While they were able to have something of a conversation in Dutch, it was very amusing to my friend's grandfather because the American has taught himself old, pre-World War 2 Dutch, which most Dutch people can still understand especially at the time, but sounds very quaint and old-fashioned to us. This was somewhere in the early 1950's.

  • @lukefriesenhahn8186
    @lukefriesenhahn8186 8 месяцев назад +10

    As a Dutch-American, this makes me proud.

  • @fatserbjensen
    @fatserbjensen 3 года назад +44

    To illustrate the indifference of many New Yorkers regarding their past: when running for mayor of New York City earlier this year, Andrew Yang proposed having a new more modern flag. Since "thinking about the people of New York City the Dutch are not the first group that springs to mind."

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +22

      Wow I didn't know that. I just looked it up. He caught a lot of crap on twitter for it. lol

    • @Ned-nw6ge
      @Ned-nw6ge 3 года назад +13

      Yeah, erasing history seems to be a thing of this time.

  • @decolonizeEverywhere
    @decolonizeEverywhere Год назад +5

    Thanks so much for your videos. Especially this one bringing knowledge to people about the Dutch roots that helped form this country. I am personally related to a prominent Dutch woman named Anneke Jan's Bogardus who owned a 62 Acre Farm on the island of Manhattan before relocating North to Albany where she was the wife of the Minister presiding over the first and oldest church in Albany, North Dutch Reformed Church of Albany.
    I would be over the moon if you were too make a video about her and Albany during its early time as a Dutch colony. The rest of the world doesn't understand how this state was impacted by Dutch colonists. But us locals are reminded of our Dutch heritage by traditional Dutch architecture along with new buildings like the Suny Albany nanotech campus whose Flagship building is in the shape of a Dutch merchant ship. We are also reminded of our Dutch Heritage by things like the annual Mother's Day weekend Dutch Tulip Festival. Every year the streets of Albany are swept by a brigade of women dressed in traditional Old Dutch garb, right down to the wooden shoes. The park in downtown is planted with many thousands of tulip bulbs that bloom all at once and our timed for the festival. And every year, a week or two after the Tulip Festival all of the tulip bulbs are dug up and distributed for free.

  • @grafischetaal
    @grafischetaal 3 года назад +12

    Great stuff! You putting us Dutch back on the map...Litarally...

  • @jvandervoet286
    @jvandervoet286 3 месяца назад +2

    I have a friend who’s name is Van Coevorden. She is baronnes Van Coevorden. Allthough it doesn’t mean much nowadays. Her last name is linked to Vancouver (Canada). Pretty cool how this small country has influenced many city names around the world.

  • @jcristi321
    @jcristi321 2 года назад +18

    I learned about New Amsterdam in a US History class here in Oklahoma. First in junior high, then again at the University of Oklahoma.
    When I asked about my heritage the first thing my Grandma said was Dutch. I saw a historical marker in New York’s Battery Park about the Dutch settlers but it was years before I knew my family was among those settlers. They came on first boat from the Netherlands in 1624.
    How cool is that?
    Now the Dutch West Indies Trading Company is not simply a question on a history test, it’s part of my family history.
    Just found your videos this morning, I’ll be tracking them down now, and I’ll check out your maps.
    Jan, descendant of Phillippe du Trieuxxe … apologies for the spelling.😉

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 8 месяцев назад +1

      Found a dutch article about it.
      THE BEGINNING: HENRY HUDSON AND THE ISLAND “MANNAHATTES”
      Difficult to imagine for the modern traveler, but Manhattan was once a green and forested island where only a few Indians lived. In the year 1609, the British navigator Henry Hudson, employed by the Amsterdam chamber of the Dutch East India Company (VOC), sailed into the area around present-day New York in search of a new route to Asia. He sailed on the river that would later be named after him into the current city of Albany. Hudson's journey led to new trade missions from the Dutch in the following years, without any major settlements being established. That only changed in 1624, when the ship the Nieuw-Amsterdam, owned by the West India Company (WIC, which was actually responsible for all activities in the west, today's North, Central and South America and the Caribbean) entered the area.
      In addition to the crew, the Nieuw-Amsterdam had about thirty families on board. Men and women whose sole purpose was to build a new life. Although the people on board came from the United Seven Provinces, as the Netherlands was called at the time, they came from all over Europe: many Walloons and Flemish, today's south of Belgium, some Swiss, Italians, etc. On Noten Eylandt, today Governor Island in the bay of New York City, most disembarked, some sailed on to Albany and founded several settlements there and on the way there.
      Plans to create a fort that would protect the mouth of the Hudson River (and further northern settlements such as Albany) eventually led to Fort Amsterdam being founded in 1626, on the approximate site of the US Custom House today. is located just next to Battery Park.

    • @edwardwong654
      @edwardwong654 7 месяцев назад +4

      Very cool. Growing up in NYC, I met very few Dutch. There was a Dutch butcher on 3rd Ave and 20th St. There was a visiting Dutch guy in my building. I finally dated an American woman with Dutch ancestry to my knowledge. But they left a rich legacy.

    • @jcristi321
      @jcristi321 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@edwardwong654 My branch of that family was in New Jersey at the time of the Revolutionary War, then later Pennsylvania and established new towns in Illinois. That branch of the family tree also produced Ronald Reagan, who was 2nd cousin to my Grandmother. I learned all these details when I looked up his family tree.

  • @simonh6371
    @simonh6371 3 года назад +13

    As a Brit who's lived more than 10 years in the Netherlands and also a couple of years in South Africa I have done a bit of research about this. Actually it's easy to find the extent of Dutch colonisation in the region - most of upstate NY and bits of Connecticut and Delaware was Nieuw Nederland - as it's all on wikipedia in English. Btw Albany was originally called Beverwyck, in NL the spelling of this seaside town in Noord Holland changed to Beverwijk.
    Anyway many of my countrymen are aware that NYC was once Nieuw Amsterdam but that's about it, nobody has heard of Nieuw Nederland which was much larger. However as you yourself said due to historical rivalries and the British becoming a global power after the Dutch Golden Age, the anglosphere has played down Dutch influence in that period.
    The largest example of this in the UK today is the fact that something like 99% of my countrymen are convinced that our shores haven't been invaded/conquered since 1066. However in 1688 we were invaded and conquered by the Dutch, hence the installation of Stadhouder Willem on our throne, who is known here as William of Orange. It was called the ''Glorious Revolution'' at the time by the Dutch who were smart enough to bring printing presses with the invasion force and distribute pamphlets proclaiming it as such but the fact is that for 2 years thereafter no English troops were permitted within 20 miles of London.
    Another example of this isn't connected with the Netherlands per se but still with Dutch settlers, in the Boer Republics in present-day South Africa, who had left the Dutch East India Company controlled Cape colony after it was taken by the British is 1795 after Napoleon invaded the Netherlands, and trekked inland to establish their own states - the constitution of both states was written in Dutch and Dutch was the official language, however spoken language was morphing into what is now called Afrikaans (interestingly Afrikaans was still officially called '''Dutch'' in SA until as late as 1940!). In the UK the Second Anglo-Boer War is known as ''The'' Boer War as if there were only one, in fact the Boers had defeated the British Empire in it's heyday in the First Anglo-Boer War, without even having a standing army!

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 2 года назад +13

    My grandfather immigrated from the Netherlands as a child around 1904, after the San Francisco earthquake. His father and his three uncles were all builders, from the North Polder Area, and came to help with the reconstruction of the city. My grandfather later became a contractor and there are schools and churches all over the Bay Area that he built. He also helped build US Navy ships during the war at the nearby Richmond, CA dockyards, they took a lot of carpentry to fit out, despite having steel hulls. Of course, the huge Dutch contributions to this country began early, on the East Coast, but a lot of Dutch immigrants came in every century since “the Pilgrims”, who often, though of English origin, had spent years in the Netherlands first, to escape religious persecution. I agree the Dutch contribution to this country is often overlooked.

    • @alexpieters2345
      @alexpieters2345 4 месяца назад

      Very interesting story, greetings from the Netherlands.

  • @GeographyGeek
    @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +118

    “What’s Left of New Amsterdam? (And the origins of the US)” - ruclips.net/video/s4BpJd8Or80/видео.html

    • @Student0Toucher
      @Student0Toucher 3 года назад +2

      America is number 1🤡

    • @lbergen001
      @lbergen001 3 года назад

      @@Student0Toucher Who is second and third in your opinion?

    • @Student0Toucher
      @Student0Toucher 3 года назад +1

      @@lbergen001 2.China and 3.Germany over all but if we focus on military most then 2.Russia 3.China

    • @lbergen001
      @lbergen001 3 года назад +1

      @@Student0Toucher ok, interesting ranking.

    • @Guillaume2606
      @Guillaume2606 3 года назад +6

      @@Student0Toucher America or USA??? Because Canada, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina, just to name a few, are also America. The USA is only part of America (and not the best or the brightest part, to be honest!). I always laugh when someone calls the USA "The best country in the world". In my humble opinion, the USA is about 180th or thereabouts! Not quite in the last place, but there is not much difference!

  • @peterk9243
    @peterk9243 3 года назад +93

    I always felt that the Dutch get in the way of American exceptionalism. There is a foe - the English - that it overcame, and the benevolent liberty that followed is provided at the grace and brilliance of its early leaders. Never mind that they drew heavy inspiration from the French, Dutch, as well as a few others. American exceptionalism is a good myth, that certainly keeps patriotism up; it has become part of the civil religion. It, and its history is therefore preferred over other elements to this story, lest it takes away from the central message.

    • @hugowerkman6228
      @hugowerkman6228 3 года назад +4

      That's quite a sobering view of things, to me and possibly to many Americans, and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.

    • @andredeketeleastutecomplex
      @andredeketeleastutecomplex 3 года назад +4

      Patriotism, a lost resort sentiment, when the person can't find something good in himself. You should read Schopenhauer on that.

    • @apuapustaja1958
      @apuapustaja1958 3 года назад +6

      eh... that's just not true.
      A German invented the idea of individual liberty, the French used the idea and made some grand moves with it, the Dutch used it to create legislation guaranteeing it and America is the latest greatest symbol of it.
      The sad part is that America is losing it and I don't see another Empire standing up to take the torch and continue the advancement of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    • @Draregkoeliekalie
      @Draregkoeliekalie 3 года назад +2

      @@apuapustaja1958 the collapse of an empire is coming and I also think the liberty amd freedom we are having is at great risk due riding nationalism in a lot of the western countries

    • @apuapustaja1958
      @apuapustaja1958 3 года назад +2

      @@Draregkoeliekalie no it's quite the opposite.
      it's Globalism aka Judaism that is causing the downfall yet again

  • @willemstreutgers1154
    @willemstreutgers1154 3 года назад +18

    As far as i know the "Pelgrim Fathers" fled from England to The Netehrlands because of "religion differences" then they were allowed to go to New Amsterdam, to get freed of any religion abuse. Besides that we the Dutch helped to install your Constitution. A copy can be found in Amsterdam.(in dutch).
    Good luck with your search and findings.

  • @DarthNoox
    @DarthNoox 3 года назад +9

    Part of what makes me love Dutch history is how widespread it is, even when we aren’t aware of it. Unless you look out for it you’d probably glance over Dutch presence in history throughout the world. One such examples is the song which I believe is sung during Thanksgiving, “We Gather Together”. This song is originally Dutch and is called “Wilt heden nu treden” which was written to celebrate the Dutch victory at the Battle of Turnhout. This is just one of many examples which I randomly came across

  • @gerritgreveling
    @gerritgreveling 3 года назад +11

    Interesting video. And its a fine thing that the Dutch are recognised finally.

  • @swampertdeck
    @swampertdeck 3 года назад +47

    I always assumed the US knew about its Dutch history, New Amsterdan etc., and where some of its core values, like freedom of religion, came from. Sad to hear it’s not common knowledge.
    It makes sense that an English speaking country centers its history on England.

    • @Melinmingle
      @Melinmingle 3 года назад +2

      They made it so that they take all the credit

    • @just1it1moko
      @just1it1moko 3 года назад +5

      The English just a very different vision in their colonies, besides the Afrikaans language in South Africa there are barely any traces left of dutch colonization whereas in English colonization you can see by simply looking at a map.
      We found a colony in north America, gone its now the state of new York.
      We find New Zealand and New Holland, New Zealand stays (somehow) but New Holland is now Australia and England's personal prison.
      Colony in South Africa, English show up and to this day the Afrikaans speakers still hate the English speakers to a degree, not to mention that there's plenty of hate to go around there.
      they were the biggest contribution to the fall of the VOC and the WIC.
      If you look at Dutch history England was kind of like team Rocket that show up everywhere you do just to mess with you.

    • @mitonaarea5856
      @mitonaarea5856 3 года назад

      @TheWeeaboo actually 40 million white Americans identify themselves as "Americans" the majority of them probably are of english descent. It simply doesn't make sense that the majority of white Americans are of german descent

    • @mitonaarea5856
      @mitonaarea5856 3 года назад

      @TheWeeaboo I said that 40 million alone identify as americans, and many of them are of English or Scottish decent and that's a fact. If you those 40 million and join them to the 25 million Americans who reported to have English ancestry you will realise that the majority ancestry group in the US is English.

    • @mitonaarea5856
      @mitonaarea5856 3 года назад

      @TheWeeaboo and how does that refute my point?

  • @richardbrinkerhoff
    @richardbrinkerhoff 4 месяца назад +1

    In grade school I learned about Henry Hudson and the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam. My Dutch ancestors were early settlers of Staten Island. I was born and raised in New Jersey where Dutch names abound. Perhaps many didn't pay attention because the Dutch role was definitely taught.

    • @BabzV
      @BabzV 3 месяца назад

      Good to see some Americans know about their own heritage.
      Nice Dutch name you have there. 😉
      Warm greetings from the Netherlands. 🌷

  • @HoraceBluenose
    @HoraceBluenose 4 месяца назад +1

    The former Dutchess County attorney general wrote his graduate thesis on the effect of Dutch law and convention on New York jurisprudence. The conclusion was that a large part of New York's liberal and humanistic legal stance originates in New Amsterdam.

  • @maartenvanduin7423
    @maartenvanduin7423 3 года назад +12

    Wauw, thanks! I even learned a lot about our history and the mindset back then! Amazing! I would love to learn more about this..

  • @juanmonge7418
    @juanmonge7418 2 года назад +3

    My understanding is that the eight President Martin van Buren grew up speaking Dutch as his first language. The Catskills were originally the “ Katerskills”. There are many places called “kills”: Otterkill, Fishkill. Kill means creek.

    • @christiano2444
      @christiano2444 Год назад

      Just like the two Roosevelts both talked Dutch at home.

  • @samanthasebastian1810
    @samanthasebastian1810 3 года назад +8

    Great video keep up the fantastic work

  • @danobanano2505
    @danobanano2505 3 года назад +9

    Even santa clause is of Dutch origin.. here we call it Sinterklaas(Saint Nicolas) and as the tradition came to America.. they translated it to santa clause(pronounciation of Sinterklaas in English)
    Same Saint Nick/Nicolas from a village called Mira in Greece

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +3

      This is true. Most people don't know this as well.

    • @Brozius2512
      @Brozius2512 3 года назад +5

      The Dutch Sinterklaas was born about 270 AD in the port of Patara in the Greek province of Lycia in Asia Minor (present-day Turkey).

    • @ericheuvel7864
      @ericheuvel7864 3 года назад

      @@Brozius2512 ... a lot can be told about the Lycians and the Lycian road...

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 3 года назад +9

    I thought everybody was taught the Dutch founded Manhattan...And I'm from Philadelphia which was actually founded by Sweden and we're taught that and our city flag is powder blue and yellow because of Sweden.

    • @alfonsstekebrugge8049
      @alfonsstekebrugge8049 3 года назад +2

      Then you should also know the Dutch conquered Philadelphia (or at least the Swedish fort that was along the river there). Only took a decade or so until the English came, burned everything down and sold the Swedish and Dutch people as slaves.

  • @martineldritch
    @martineldritch 3 года назад +7

    Great video content, thanks :-) The last of the major Dutch political influence in New York ended in 1845 at the end of the Helderberg War (1839-1845) in the Hudson and Mohawk Valleys. Anti Renter farmers had to pay rent to a few old Dutch families (patroons) who owned vast areas of the state. Though the farmers lost the war they earned public support during the trials afterward and the Dutch fiefdoms were broken up and sold to tenants. Many of the farmers (who had til then paid a fairly low tax to the patroons) could now no longer afford to own property and farms.
    Many of the participants in the rebellion were Dutch themselves. I grew up in the Hudson Valley a descendant of Dutch Anti Renters as were many of my schoolmates so I find the history fascinating.

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! I've never heard of this. I'm taking a trip in about a month to Hyde Park. Any recommendations on some places in the area I should add to the itinerary?

    • @martineldritch
      @martineldritch 3 года назад +1

      @@GeographyGeek When I went on a field trip there way back in 5th grade we also went to the "Beekman Arms and Delamater Inn" in nearby Rhinebeck (oldest operating hotel in the country) and the Vanderbilt mansion (also in Hyde Park). Rhinebeck also has the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome but the weekend flight shows end 10/17. Up north in Columbia county is the Martin Van Buren home and park in Kinderhook and the Luykas Van Alen house.
      If you get a look at the Catskill Mountains across the river see if they dont resemble the sleeping form of a giant Rip Van Winkle like I was taught as a child (With his head in the north towards Albany and his feet sprawled out in Woodstock) Have a good trip ! 😃

  • @misterbacon4933
    @misterbacon4933 2 года назад +5

    The reason is that after the Dutch the English took over and they buried those information. The English did this everywhere where they took over colonies like Sri Lanka, South Africa.

    • @russbear31
      @russbear31 2 года назад +4

      Bingo! You're absolutely right. The winner gets to write the history, and the British spent a couple of centuries erasing the history of the Dutch and other competitors from the New World after they were defeated.

    • @BabzV
      @BabzV 3 месяца назад +1

      His-story. 😉

  • @InspectorGadget2014
    @InspectorGadget2014 3 года назад +44

    Having lived in the US for 3 years (in the 1980's) I was also surprised by the (partial) omission of the ancestral influence of the Dutch in the American history books & teachings. Back then I believed it was just more convenient as America's history is truly a (checkered) melting pot of quite a few old-world countries & battles. Plus indeed old (sometimes lost) records in ancient languages. I know the Dutch had impressive influences all over the world, with sometimes dark (& blameful) history but I never forgot that the U.S. is a relatively young nation and therefore history is still being written.
    Thank you for your time & efforts!

    • @ridderus
      @ridderus 3 года назад +3

      Dark and Blamefull? ;)

    • @3217491
      @3217491 3 года назад +1

      Not sure why dark and blameful.
      You're acting like the entire world wasnt using slavery or (what is now considered) barbaric treatment of people not belonging to their group.
      Acting like western countries didnt uplift an insane amount of people.

    • @ingridwatsup9671
      @ingridwatsup9671 3 года назад +2

      The US of A is a young nation in the view of the non indigenous who had always been there..

    • @JK-Visions
      @JK-Visions 3 года назад +3

      like the u.s. didnt do anything wrong. ehhh indian genocide, atom bomb on japan twice etc... i would say we humans are all the same when under the same circumstances.

    • @3217491
      @3217491 3 года назад +1

      @@JK-Visions there wasn't an actual genocide. The Atom Bomb was justified at the time. They weren't aware of the fallout damage. They also flyered over the cities to warn them they possessed a single bomb that could wipe an entire city. Lots of japanese didn't believe it. Plus their cities were already being wiped via firebombings.
      I mean. Look at history through it's context, not our 20/20 hindsight context.

  • @Joylibelle
    @Joylibelle 2 года назад +2

    As a Dutch, I recognized two 17th century words at 8:21 which are 'Brandewijnen' (liquor) and 'manschappen' (troops).

  • @lindasimons691
    @lindasimons691 2 года назад +2

    Born and grew up on Long Island where there were many old windmills especially out east.

  • @cosmo5179
    @cosmo5179 3 года назад +4

    Thanks man, i'm a Frisian Dutch. In roman times known as the Frisii

  • @liavanwissen1963
    @liavanwissen1963 3 года назад +7

    Maybe you should do more research on the stay of John Adams in The Netherlands and the Dutch ultimatum that he could only get financial support if the British colony would become independent from England. You could also dive into the origin of the American constitution. John Adams used the Dutch constitution as an important example for the future American constitution.

  • @ModernLove100
    @ModernLove100 3 года назад +10

    The Dutch have been very influential when it comes to American history, the many words, verbs and (street)names are proof of that.
    Remember that 'apartheid' is a Dutch word that is now part of every language.

    • @johnbutt6912
      @johnbutt6912 2 года назад +1

      Yes as is "laager" camps

    • @emo122009
      @emo122009 2 года назад +1

      Same counts for marine navigation terminology, e.g., stuurboord, bakboord, etc..

  • @kartikrajsingh1895
    @kartikrajsingh1895 3 месяца назад +1

    Martin Van Buren spoke Dutch as his first language! Not English. He was the first U.S President not born a British subject and regarding his ancestry, he was the first president of non-British ancestry.

  • @drjohnson98
    @drjohnson98 3 года назад +29

    Thank you. A very interesting and informative video. It provides the historical background to a more or less intuitive sense that I have had for a long time. I have lived and worked among both the English and the Dutch for many years. The English seem in many ways an alien race very different in world perspective and social mores than Americans. This cultural divide is masked by the fact that we share a common language. In contrast, despite the language difference, I almost immediately recognized strong cultural affinities between the Dutch and Americans. This has been masked in the past by the language difference but now that English is almost universally spoken in the Netherlands the commonalities can be seen much easier by visitors to that country. Somehow, despite having fought off the English colonial yoke, we held on to a national myth that obscured our ties to the Dutch in favor of a partially false myth of natural affinity to the English. I feel very much at home in the Netherlands and among the Dutch but very much a stranger in a strange land among the English and in England. A very subjective view, I know but one that grows stronger as I spend more time with both national groups.

    • @lbergen001
      @lbergen001 3 года назад +2

      Impressive observation, really.👍So in heart USA is closer to NL than UK.

    • @suzanneberger8202
      @suzanneberger8202 3 года назад +6

      The english are very feudal in their class system, exceedingly single minded and anti-anyone who isn't british. They are complex, biased and unforgiving. The dutch are so friendly and I love the language! The Americans are also so friendly and welcoming. So sad to see present regime flushing it down the toilet.

    • @glorgau
      @glorgau Год назад

      If you really want to see English influence on America, go up into Connecticut and Massachusetts.

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 8 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/z3DIy8bMvts/видео.html Dutch football fans vs Ukrainian journalist.🤣

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 8 месяцев назад +2

      Depends on which aisle you are in. The Dutch are way more progressive than the British. We beat almost all of the world in that. The British are more conservative.
      First to make a bike culture, sex work is legal, first to legalize smoking weed, first to legalize magic shrooms and first to legalize gay marriage. Very progressive compared to the UK or the rest of the world. We definitely have the same spirit in fighting for rights like the US. Maybe we secretly we love our country more than in the US. The sea of orange shirts always amazes me at sport events.

  • @Syzygy77
    @Syzygy77 Год назад +3

    My family was one of the Dutch families that moved to the new world in the early 17th century. I still have family in the Netherlands. Six van Oterleek and Six van Hillegom. I’m unsure which branch I can trace lineage to, Six van Oterleek or Six van Hillegom.

    • @BabzV
      @BabzV 3 месяца назад

      Oterleek is probably with two t"s, Otterleek.
      But what do you mean with 'six'? Because that's not a Dutch word.

  • @ACR_BOX
    @ACR_BOX 3 года назад +4

    Greetings from "Old" Amsterdam
    Where we have the "Breestraat" = Broadstreet now know as Broadway
    And a few more Street names have the Dutch origin like "Kerstraat" = Churchstreet
    Thanks for the video

  • @JumpingTomato
    @JumpingTomato 3 года назад +8

    I'm from Amsterdam, and I have bean to New York City a couple of times. And I see things like Amsterdam Avenue and the Stuyvesant building and bunch of stuff that reminds me it once was Dutch (Yankees, Harlem, Broolyn: they are all derives from Dutch names). I feel somehow connected to NYC. I really like it there, but in the end, the original Amsterdam is best city in the world. Period.

    • @johanhobo
      @johanhobo 3 года назад

      En zo is het 😂👍🏻

    • @nickdentoom1173
      @nickdentoom1173 Год назад

      Amsterdam best city in the world?
      It isn't even the best city in the Netherlands... in fact most Dutchies see Amsterdam as the shithole of the country.

    • @JumpingTomato
      @JumpingTomato Год назад

      @@nickdentoom1173 That's just because they are all jealous Amsterdam is number one in everything. So yes it's objectively the best city in the Netherlands. There is nothing wrong in loving your own city over all others, but numberd don't lie.

  • @benjaminrush4443
    @benjaminrush4443 2 года назад +2

    The development of NY City and the Hudson River led to the Erie Canal & eventual Railroad to Chicago on the Great Lakes. Hudson may have failed to find a passageway west to the Pacific Ocean, but his journey into 'New Amsterdam' surely helped the Westward Expansion of the newly developing United States of America. Thanks.

  • @MGsven
    @MGsven 3 года назад +2

    the story of suriname is warped here in the netherlands too, thanks for the vid, i enjoyed it a lot

  • @CmStormKwosr12
    @CmStormKwosr12 3 года назад +3

    Nice video! Even as a Dutch myself I don't know all of the history myself! Really amazing! 😬👍

  • @laustudie
    @laustudie 3 года назад +5

    Not sure if you said it in your video, but New York was for a year called new orange in 1673, when the dutch briefly regained control of the colony. Quite funny that new york was first the new orange and later became the big apple :P.

  • @sdaniel9129
    @sdaniel9129 3 года назад +12

    I can't help but mention a starfort on one of the old maps you show... How many starforts are there in the USA? Here in the Netherlands we have more than a hundred of these beautiful structures... I can't believe the Dutch built all of them! Greetings from the Netherlands ;-)

    • @zoutewand
      @zoutewand 3 года назад +1

      I live in Leeuwarden and our historic centre is just a big starfort! Love those things.

    • @savannah115
      @savannah115 5 месяцев назад

      There are remnants of star forts all over the USA. Most of them are mere foundations (places like British Fort Pitt, Pennsylvania and French Fort Caroline, Florida) and some are still pretty obvious on the landscape (the American fort at Ninety-Six, South Carolina). I'm actually a (American) National Park Ranger who spent years working at various historic forts, so I geek out about this lol

  • @justincovert6943
    @justincovert6943 2 года назад +2

    The best example i can think of. Is the difference between NY, NJ and parts of CT with the rest of the US. It really all depends on who settles first or where the big influence comes from.

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 2 года назад +2

    If you grew up in the areas of NYC, upstate NY or New Jersey you are very familiar with the area's Dutch history and influence.

  • @sarelvanderwalt5219
    @sarelvanderwalt5219 3 года назад +5

    The lasting impact of the Dutch on the USA is actually the name Dollar. The new US govt in the 1780s borrowed money from the Dutch, whose main coin at the time was the “rijksdaalder” and with no uniform spelling at the time, was likely spelled as dollar by the English speaking colonists.

    • @juanmonge7418
      @juanmonge7418 2 года назад

      I thought that that word came from a German silver mine called “Thaler”?

  • @studioduco4968
    @studioduco4968 2 года назад +3

    I'm Dutch and I always wondered how such a small country could have such a big influence on the world. I also found out that a lot of our history is suppressed or changed but I still don't know why and what is kept hidden from us. Even today our role within Europe is much bigger than we are supposed to believe. I studied our history for 25 years and it's full of inconsistencies and strange turns of events that don't make sense. This is one of those "strange turn of events". We always had a "love / hate" relationship with the British; we were collaborating with them or fighting wars with them. There was even a Dutch King on the British Throne in the eighteen hundreds and even then we did not reclaim New Amsterdam. None of it makes any sense.
    And you're right it seems suppressed history, in the Netherlands a lot of people know that New York was once New Amsterdam but that is about it. Hardly anyone knows anything about the Dutch history in North America. A lot of Dutch people can learn something from your video's :) Keep up the good work!

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 2 года назад +2

      Not least because most of the Dutch (bar some Frisians and Saxons) are Frankish and that part of our history is completely ignored in favor of a holland-centric and pro orange family history

    • @dotty4994
      @dotty4994 Год назад

      Congrats if ur dutch

  • @rolandtennapel5058
    @rolandtennapel5058 3 года назад +19

    As Dutch person, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate this, since hardly anything about the colonies were taught in school... 😅

    • @Sumowning
      @Sumowning 3 года назад +2

      True, the dark period of slavery and our role i. It was taught extensively. Which is good, because only then can we learn from it. But in regards to colonies we barely get thought anything

    • @BOBABOOROCKS
      @BOBABOOROCKS 3 года назад +2

      Sadly this:(

    • @dotty4994
      @dotty4994 Год назад +1

      @rolandtennapel5058 congrats buy a cake and celebrate it!!

  • @DMETS519
    @DMETS519 2 года назад +2

    My family settled in the Flatlands area of Brooklyn in 1653, shortly after it was first settled by other Dutch colonists. This was one of the first permanent European settlements in North America. Its a shame so much of this information is buried by popular history.

    • @edwardwong654
      @edwardwong654 7 месяцев назад +1

      That is super interesting, and a long time ago. And that part of Brooklyn is quite aways from Manhattan.

  • @AlexisWallace1984
    @AlexisWallace1984 Год назад +2

    I recently was doing some looking into my ancestry- My grandmother's maiden name was Van Keuren (also documented as Van Keulen or Van Ceulen). I found something stating one of my ancestors actually purchased Manhattan from the Native Americans. One of my favorite finds is that a home purchased by my 7 or 8x great grandfather in 1711, still stands in Kingston, NY!

  • @forkless
    @forkless 3 года назад +6

    Quite enjoying the series you are doing! Have you considered reaching out to Russell Shorto et al for an interview? They seem genuinely happy to talk about the topic in other interviews and (online) presentations I have seen of them.

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! I didn't think about that. An interview would be pretty cool! I'm not sure if I'm big enough for him to care but I guess it's worth a shot.

  • @SIG442
    @SIG442 3 года назад +5

    I really do hope the US will start to teach the importance of this information. Perhaps it's a good idea to go around schools and uni's all over the nation to teach this yourself? I mean, as a US citizen yourself and being well aware of this it may make you the ideal person to do so.

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +2

      Maybe so! I can see where some school districts and colleges are using some of my videos by looking at the external link clicks. Hopefully that list will grow. I teach 8th grade geography which is a district level class and I was lucky enough to help write the curriculum. I talk about New Amsterdam a little in the North American unit. I also work a lot of this in when talking about topics such as the movement of ideas and cultural diffusion. If only I could figure out how to change state level curriculum.

    • @branigankerls
      @branigankerls 3 года назад +2

      I mean realistically learning dutch influence on america is farrrr down the list of priorities for what needs to be taught in america

  • @blazing_wraith1617
    @blazing_wraith1617 3 года назад +16

    Aw shit, here we go agian.
    G E K O L O N I S E E R D. It fits slightly to the video😂

  • @Ohmy1028
    @Ohmy1028 Год назад +1

    If you're interested, the old bergen church that still exists in Jersey City on highland ave. was built by the dutch settlers in 1660. If you are able to get permission to visit the little cemetery across the street, you can find quite a few gravestones inscibed in dutch.

  • @thearab59
    @thearab59 2 года назад +2

    I studied history at school in the UK. No mention at all of the Dutch wars in 12 years. US independence mentioned in passing only. More time by far spent on Jethro Tull's invention of the seed drill (none on his later career as a rock band).

  • @sonneh86
    @sonneh86 3 года назад +7

    Didn't president Martin van Buren speak Dutch as his first language and English as his second?

  • @jurgenolivieira1878
    @jurgenolivieira1878 3 года назад +8

    Fun fact: I was born in Surinam (that traded place, before its independence) but only I lived there for about 6 years before I came to the Netherlands in 1981. I have been back many times. The native/formal language and all formal books, etc. are Dutch. But the most spoken street/common language is Surinamese/Sranang Tongo (which is also spoken by native tribes besides there own). Surinam is still one of the richest countries per capita on earth according to the CIA Fact book... so argubly a good trade. But it's mainly because that is has ginormous resource wealth with a very, very low population for its size (5 times The Netherlands,

  • @EpRoos
    @EpRoos 3 года назад +3

    I saw many video's about this subject, it funny to see that the modern American not even know the Netherlands and if they know it they can't tell where it is on a map.........I live in the Netherlands btw and I am born Dutch. Still a small country but we live here peacefully.

  • @ArifTheGreatest
    @ArifTheGreatest 3 года назад +2

    Nice video! Keep up the good work

  • @dennis_nl7587
    @dennis_nl7587 3 года назад +2

    also, Santaklaus is taken from the Dutch tradition named ''Sinterklaas'' which was an actual saint, you see the comparison of the 2 names?

  • @scottnunnemaker5209
    @scottnunnemaker5209 3 года назад +4

    It’s less people don’t know, and I think more that people don’t care. Not very many people seem to care for history, they’d rather make up their own history.

  • @bingoognib6894
    @bingoognib6894 3 года назад +4

    I wonder how much people here are dutch and just wanted to see what there was to say about is

    • @keesbos4147
      @keesbos4147 3 года назад

      From how far I am in the coments I didn’t see one non Dutch person and I have bin scrolling for at least 10 minutes

    • @keesbos4147
      @keesbos4147 3 года назад

      Ok im back I have read all the comments and found 1 American and the rest was Dutch for as far I know

  • @victormorell3016
    @victormorell3016 3 года назад +3

    New Jersey was originally part of New Netherlands. There still are a lot of Dutch place names in northwestern New Jersey. The Reformed Churches in NJ are the oldest continuing Protestant Churches in the US, and are directly descended from the Heervormde Kerk, the old state church of the Netherlands.

    • @Helleuw123
      @Helleuw123 3 года назад +3

      in new york you also see alot of dutch names, brooklyn is based from the village breukelen for example. and there many more. that whole area is lcuekly still duthcified a bit in history and naming

    • @penked88
      @penked88 3 года назад

      Yea, or "Wall Street /Waal Straat)

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 3 года назад

      @@penked88 Wasn't 'Wall-street' the street that ran along the (inner) wall surrounding the old settlement?

    • @somedude5951
      @somedude5951 3 года назад

      The main state churches in the Netherlands now are either Hervormd or Gereformeerd. The meaning of the word in English is about the same, reformed. It is the Gereformeerde kerk that prints the Bible. Can't tell you much more, because I am not sure what the difference is between the two: Their traditions look the same to me, but they themselves seem to find the difference very significant.

  • @edwardwong654
    @edwardwong654 7 месяцев назад +1

    I am well aware of the Dutch origins for what is now NY. I went to a high school and a college with Dutch namesakes. I really like the Dutch names and they are so embedded in the NY culture. It is the only state with Dutch influences, and without co-incidence, the greatest of the 50 states.

    • @edwardwong654
      @edwardwong654 7 месяцев назад

      After reading the other interesting comments I need to make a correction, New Jersey also has some Dutch influence as I forgot about the Oranges and also Weehawken, which I assume is Dutch. There are probably other Dutch references in New Jersey, but I will leave it to others to chime in.

    • @rafox66
      @rafox66 4 месяца назад

      @@edwardwong654 I did a quick look around on google maps, Frelinghuysen is most certainly of Dutch origin. Freling is derived from an old Dutch word that meant something along the lines of 'free man' and huysen is the old way of spelling 'huizen' meaning 'houses'. So it's meaning is something like 'houses of the free men'.
      New Brunswick comes from the German place Braunschweig.
      Also, any place with the word 'burg' in there is likely from Dutch or German origin, it's the word for a fortified town or castle. Just have a look at all the places in Germany like Hamburg, Magdeburg, Duisburg.And in the Netherlands: Middelburg, Spakenburg, Valkenburg and a whole province called Limburg. The Dutch word for civilian is 'burger' in German it's 'Zivilist'.
      The word Dutch comes from Deutsch, which is the German word for German. it's because back then Dutch people considered themselves German because the Netherlands didn't exist, it was the united provinces.
      It's important to remember that Dutch, like German and also English are all largely Germanic languages so they have a lot in common. But that's way too much history there to explain.
      Sorry if this was way too long, I find all of these things pretty fascinating so I tend to jump from one thing to the other because in the end, it's all connected.

  • @samb1123
    @samb1123 2 года назад +1

    My mother's paternal family were from New Amsterdam. The earliest ancestor born in North America was born in 1653 in New Amsterdam. My 5 greats Grandfather came to Upper Canada in 1783. I was taught about the New Netherlands in the 1960s in Southern Ontario. We Loyalists or Tories as you would call us did not forget our Dutch origins.

  • @royvandermarel3953
    @royvandermarel3953 3 года назад +36

    As a Dutchman, I've learned a lot in this video as well. Most of our history classes are skimming over events like this. Especially when it comes to colonialism, the slavetrade and the role 'we' played in it.
    "We founded New Amsterdam, there were some human rights violations by us, we traded New Amsterdam for Surinam and got rich while doing so. The end. Next chapter: World War 2"

    • @TheJH1015
      @TheJH1015 3 года назад +7

      That's because the Dutch barely played a role in the Atlantic slave trade. Only 5% of all Atlantic slave trade was committed by the Dutch. The Asian slave trade is a different thing, however.
      For the rest, the Dutch barely played a role in the Americas. So obviously not much would be taught about that.

    • @royvandermarel3953
      @royvandermarel3953 3 года назад +2

      @@TheJH1015 While you are right about that, it is still one of the few claims of (dubious and marginal as it may be) fame, historically.

    • @SievertSchreiber
      @SievertSchreiber 3 года назад +1

      As OP said, we’re not learned in school how our ancestors influenced the slave trade. Yeah they tell us about the great benefits from the slave trade. But do they learn us about the bad things? No they don’t

    • @viviblaat5831
      @viviblaat5831 3 года назад +2

      @@TheJH1015 The Dutch didn't so much trade in slaves themselves, however they did transport slaves for basically every country that were trading slaves.
      Payment often came along with a couple of slaves for the Captain of the ship to keep, with a lot of them ending up in Suriname.
      It's a black page, that is removed or never told in most Dutch history books.

    • @martijnkwant5314
      @martijnkwant5314 3 года назад +3

      @CAPTAIN HOOK
      That is what it feels like to me at this point.. Things like colonial exploitation and slave trade is pretty much the only thing discussed about our history these days.. You cannot discuss anything in our history anymore like cultural revolution of the Golden Age without someone dragging these thing into it and just ruining the entire subject.. All discussions about history these days seem to be begin and end with Colonialism and slavery and exploitation..
      Never about interesting things like shown in this video.. People say negatives should also be given space.. However give it to much space and the subject isn't fun anymore.. Take the Colosseum in Rome.. Brilliant piece of history and cultural heritage.. Or in modern cynical perspective nothing more then a symbolism of the blood lust that was wide spread at that time and complete disregard for any life form especially those of slaves and animals.. And you could go on and on in history and destroy every and all country, culture and religion pretty much to its core..
      People were terrible to each other, and people still are.. That is the only thing history tells you with the cynical view of modern day.. Hence the "revisioning" you see literally everywhere.. Tearing down historical figures and buildings just like the Iconoclasts did in the old days when they viewed history they don't like..
      I used to be a great fan of history and reading into it and talking about it.. Not anymore however.. People just ruined the entire subject I feel like..

  • @robvoncken2565
    @robvoncken2565 3 года назад +13

    The problem lies not in US but in British history and a pfenomonan called Whig history. basicly this was a representation of the British history being a logical progression from humble origens to world domination. The Dutch represented a problem. As from the first spark of English dominance unde Elisabeth 1 the English actually declined when they were overschadowed by the Dutch. The best way to get rid of this was writing them out of the history all together. To this day many claims of Whig history are considered facts in the UK. But British education systems have been hard at work setting the records straight in recent years

    • @AlexanderWeurding
      @AlexanderWeurding 3 года назад +1

      “History Is Written by the Victors” Winston Churchill

    • @robvoncken2565
      @robvoncken2565 3 года назад +1

      @@AlexanderWeurding they did not win

    • @geosophik9369
      @geosophik9369 3 года назад +2

      So true. And almost nobody realizes that most of world history outside Europe is based on the old colonists point of view.

    • @TheJH1015
      @TheJH1015 3 года назад +6

      The Dutch: *completely destroy most of the British Navy's ships laying in the harbour at Chatham and tow the HMS Royal Charles back to the Netherlands*
      British Historians: "I'll pretend I didn't see that"

    • @drpepper3838
      @drpepper3838 3 года назад +3

      @@TheJH1015 still the most humiliating defeat of the royal navies history

  • @ericlineback5501
    @ericlineback5501 Год назад +1

    I come from low dutch, alot lived in conewago and fought in revolutionary War and War of 1812, one of my ancestors made shoes for soldiers in the revolutionary War and was friends with Washington and received gifts from him which are in a museum

  • @ifer1280
    @ifer1280 3 года назад +1

    As a second follow up, you could compare the Dutch Plakkaat van Verlatinghe to the US declaration of independence.

  • @gertjan1710
    @gertjan1710 3 года назад +3

    'Snack' is actually a dutch loanword

    • @dvchel
      @dvchel 3 года назад

      Yacht too.

    • @metalvideos1961
      @metalvideos1961 3 года назад

      english language is full of words from dutch origin.

  • @yurriaanvanduyn
    @yurriaanvanduyn 3 года назад +5

    East Indian Company also still exists: ING (financial/banking part. You know, Dutch invention: stocks/bonds) and Unilever (just a global trade behemoth basically selling coloured/flavoured salt, sugar and palm oil right now).
    Wikipedia itself is a crap source as it blurs the origins of these two companies, but the sources on the topics are a good source to follow the breadcrum-trail. ;)
    Heck, ING HQ is a damn 17th century merchant ship! Google that thing, they don't hide their past. Unilever HQ(s) have all kind of references to 16-18th century merchants, from conference rooms to entire wings of the building. Subtile, yet they don't deny it. :)
    Anyway, ING/Unilever is still one company through the construction mutual stocks and such. A rabbit hole I hope someone dives into and comes back out again...

    • @globalmoron8304
      @globalmoron8304 3 года назад +1

      Gast jouw ing verhaal klopt niks van

    • @yurriaanvanduyn
      @yurriaanvanduyn 3 года назад +1

      @@globalmoron8304 Ik werk voor ING, in dat gebouw. Staat letterlijk in de Staete wat hier op display ligt in de hal. Je bent altijd welkom.

  • @RockNlRolla
    @RockNlRolla 3 года назад +3

    Wasnt the 8th president martin van buren born in new york but the parents where from the netherlands?anyways love your channel✌🏼 greets from the netherlands

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +4

      Partially correct! His parents were not from the Netherlands but they were decedents from immigrants from the Netherlands. Van Buren spoke Dutch as his first language and is the first and only president for English not to be his first language. Thank you! Happy you're here!

  • @kingmickey666
    @kingmickey666 3 года назад +1

    2:39 if I ever make a bad decision, I think of this fact and immediately feel better about myself.

  • @LCTesla
    @LCTesla 2 года назад +2

    Hopefully it also has a dutch future, with cities rationally organized for a sunstainable era and well-protected coastlines.

  • @RedSkysAreOnFire
    @RedSkysAreOnFire 3 года назад +14

    the us constantly rewrite their own history, depends who's in power and who controls what is taught in schools, if they are both the same then the history gets changed.

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +5

      I wish I could disagree.

    • @mvos5269
      @mvos5269 3 года назад +1

      History is always writen by the group that is in power.

    • @just1it1moko
      @just1it1moko 3 года назад +2

      Its not just the US its the entire western world that want to see our own narrative more prevalently represented, just happens that the English were the long term winners of the Colonizing game and thus write history.

    • @mitonaarea5856
      @mitonaarea5856 3 года назад +1

      @@just1it1moko that's how the world works. But if you dig deep into history you can always find the truth

    • @mirjamvanmaris3848
      @mirjamvanmaris3848 3 года назад +1

      @@just1it1moko Isn't that how pretty much the whole world teaches its history to its youth? You think in Russia they focus on Western Europe and the US? You think in China they focus on the Western world mainly? No, offcourse not.
      This ridiculous rewriting of history is getting absurd. Suddenly our Philosophy Canon HAS to be rewritten by some Woke-head who decides that there are not enough women and non-Western philosophers mentioned in the current Canon, which MIGHT very well be true. BUT, the reasoning for that should be the delivered contribution from a certain philosopher instead of what sex or etnicity a certain philosopher has and then too subjectively tally so you arrive at a certain amount of women, non-whites, non-christians, etc.
      That's just so wrong and why Woke is actually a danger to our open societies and free academic thinking, which we (should) hold dear , here in the Western world.

  • @rolandet
    @rolandet 3 года назад +4

    Could you explain a little more about the map in the background at 3:40?
    I see Spanish writing (Mar del Sol) but also in the middle 'Nieuw Jorck'

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek  3 года назад +5

      Early editions of the map don’t have Nieuw Jorck but after the English takeover it was added. However, this map was made by Dutch cartographers so they kept Nederlandt at the same time. Mar Del Nort was commonly used to refer to the northern half of the Atlantic. It seems to be nearly universal for the time period. Wikipedia gives a British cartographer John Sellers credit for naming it but maps were already using the name. I wish I knew more at this time.

    • @rolandet
      @rolandet 3 года назад

      @@GeographyGeek Thanks !

  • @sokolum
    @sokolum 3 года назад +5

    Interesting peace of history

  • @Ernst1969
    @Ernst1969 Год назад +2

    Met de overname van Nieuw-Amsterdam door de Britten op 8 september 1664 werd er meer uitgewist dan de naam Nieuw-Amsterdam en de Nederlandse voertaal van de kolonie. Er vond een culturele genocide plaats, die zo grondig was dat de huidige generatie Amerikanen haar verleden niet meer kent. Daarom ook weiger ik Engels te gebruiken. Uit respect voor de stichters van Nieuw-Amsterdam, de gouverneur Peter Stuijvesant en de WIC. 🇳🇱👊🏻

    • @forkless
      @forkless Год назад

      Jammer dat je ook niet fatsoenlijk Nederlands spreekt.
      ps. Stuijvesant was een stuk vuil.

    • @Ernst1969
      @Ernst1969 Год назад

      @@forkless Pretentieuze kinkel. Begin eerst eens bij jezelf, voordat je anderen aanmatigend de maat neemt.
      Stuijvesant was een held.

    • @forkless
      @forkless Год назад

      @@Ernst1969 Tijd voor de schoolbank, hobby "historicus".

  • @albertvanlingen7590
    @albertvanlingen7590 2 года назад +1

    The British did the same to the Dutch colony in South Africa. You should do a video on that. Very complicated history in RSA .

  • @dorusportugal3678
    @dorusportugal3678 3 года назад +9

    We the Dutch want it back. 😂😂😂

    • @IsadoraMadison
      @IsadoraMadison 4 месяца назад +1

      I’m 16th generation Dutch American we will keep it thanks 😂