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It's a great video! However I do wonder why Frisian history is always put into Dutch history videos when they are a separate germanic group that only inhabited the coast, the Dutch are the Salian Franks and speak the purest and most unchanged form of Frankish(not strange since the Franks almost exclusively inhabited the lands surrounding the Rhine), Frankish history and impact is what the Dutch people, culture and language is, not Frisian/Frisi, Saxon or Dane, these were minority groups which left tiny impacts on Dutch/Salian history which is much bigger and more impactful, I mean France, a gallo-roman country literally got its name under Frankish/Old Dutch occupation for example.
My wife and I did such a DNA test. My wife is Viking Heritage (Northern Netherlands) and I myself Celtic Heritage (South-West Netherlands). As you can imagine, we fight it out every day:)
The border between Keltic dominant and Germanic dominant was already pushed towards southern Belgium as far back as 2000 years ago. The Netherlands is a Germanic country.
I don't know who sold you that nonsense but 1. vikings were not an ethnic group, it was an occupation and 2. The nothern Netherlands was subjectbto viking raids, it did not commit them
@@TechWechSech Lotsa people in the northern provinces have scandinavian blood and not because vikings happened to be attractive lol you're right tho, the history of raids against the frysians and dutch is terrible
@@TechWechSech 2 is not entirely true. The Frisians were like the vikings stil heathens when the viking age began and fought many wars with the Christianized Franks. It was a border region between the kingdom of the Franks and the kingdom of Danmark at various times being part of one or the other. The Frisians also participated in the earlier conquest of Britannia together with the Saxons, Angles and Jutes. The Germanic culture and people formed in what is now southern Sweden.
Nice! Someone from Scotland will have no difficulties in pronunciating 'Van Gogh'. The 'a' is like Scottish 'a', both 'g' and 'gh' are close to Scottish 'ch'. Si say 'van choch' and there you are!
Ouch! You stepped on the Jos Bazelmans landmine. He's the one who came up with the idea that there is no historical/genetic relationship between the classical Frisii and the medieval and modern Frisians. He cites marine inundations and a lack of historical references to the Frisians during a short period to the annihilation of the Frisii and people wandering in and adopting the name Frisian ratione soli. I have spoken extensively with Frisian scholars, and Bazelmans' ideas have been thoroughly discredited. I have been told Bazelmans has backed off these contentions, but they persist on the Internet. There are indeed references to the Frisii/Frisians at the juncture of the fall of the Roman Empire and the Early Medieval Period. Marine inundations didn't drown the entirety of what is now the Netherlands. If the sea encroaches, you move a little further inland. Today's Frisians are descendants of the classical Frisii. Indeed, the Frisians took advantage of the Migration Period to expand their territory from around the now defunct Lake Flevo eastward such that their political center of gravity moved that direction and the prestige dialect of their language was spoken on the East Frisian Peninsula. Like many Americans of ostensibly Dutch ancestry dating to the 1600s, my ancestor was Frisian. Christoffel Harmens was born in Kleverens (modernly Cleverns) in 1618. The Frisian spoken modernly in the Netherlands has been under severe pressure from Dutch for centuries, and Christoffel's Frisian doubtless sounded like the now-extinct Wangerooge Frisian and Saterfrisian that remained mutually intelligible until the former's demise. The British passed a law in the late 1600s that forbade the use of patronyms, so we adopted the name van Zandt. These patronyms persist on the East Frisian Peninsula with old Frisian clan names like Cirksena, Tammena and Tjarksena now functioning as last names. And, yes, my Y DNA haplotype is R1B.
Are there examples of ancient burials in the Netherlands that have Y DNA results? I've read that the soil is not good for preserving bones / DNA. I've also read that there is unpublished work regarding the subject. I know, I know, I could Google but, rabbit holes...
This explains how the Anatolian agriculturalists, Iron Age & Scandinavian DNA got into my Dutch ancestors !!!! Haplogroup H10e. So very interesting!!! Thanks a million!!
Excellent overview! I'm Dutch from Frisian decent on my father's side an Hugenot from my mother's side of the family. The cultural divide between north and south is real but not divisive in nature.
i know my mothers family history is from Friesland, (helped build the afsluitdijk on the west side, and moved to Texel when that work dried up, survived the german occupation there and moved to Beverwijk after because of work the Steel factory provided. most of my uncles still work there) and my fathers side from central Netherlands and thats all i know about there history. wish i knew more. but i dont trust my data security (or what they do on purpose with your DATA) to companies that do those DNA tests.
I am Dutch and I did a DNA test with also haplogroups. My paternal haplogroup is actually more common in Southern Italy, North-Africa and West-Asia, even though we live in the Netherlands for at least 400 years or something (as far I can find the family tree and I have found no Spanish or Italian ancestors so I don't know where my sisters Italian DNA comes from). I do have a German in 1830 in the family and Flanders. I am Southern Dutch (Brabant). My sister did have 2.9% Italian in her DNA, but I didn't have that and neither my dad or the grandmother on my moms side. I am now 100% Dutch but before that I was 81,8% North-Western European, 16,8% English and 1,4% Irish, Scottish and Welsh. I have paternal haplogroep G (Which male mummie Yuya in Egypt also had) mine specifically is unique as it only occurs 1 in 13000 at 23andme and its: G-Z37368. The Maternal haplogroup is: J2a1a which is supposedly a more common one in Western Europe including Denmark. The G haplogroup has no R in its journey.
Might just be random noise - associating parts of genomes with regions is not an exact science, more like a well informed estimate. Generally, you shouldn't look at data under 5% as being established fact, especially if they go against proven family records. Fractions that small could just be an error during measurement, or a chunk of DNA that's interpreted as something it's not. These little fractions tend to differ between providers of tests like these as well. Alternatively, it's of course possible that the family records don't match up with genetic reality, and one of your maternal ancestors had an extramarital affair with some mediterranean sailor, which is the more fun explanation :)
First of all: Love the Scottish accent! Was a pleasure to listen to you. I am interested in doing a DNA test. I am dutch, living in the Netherlands and is there a test you can recommend? For some reason I don' t want to send my DNA to the US or another country outside of the EU. But so far I haven't found any. And maybe I am just way to paranoid.
Same problem here with a DNA test. I don't believe the results of the test are safe or destroyed. I have no crminal past or anything like that. But I don't trust what they will do with the test results in the future.
Thanks, very informative. As a Dutchman I had to watch this of course 🙂. From a Mormon herritage database I traced a herritage line back to Charlemagne (39 generations back) as well as Alfred the Great (35 generations back). So I should at least have some Frankish and Saxon blood I guess. But considering if you go back 38 generations you would potentially have 270 billion ancestors, which is obviously impossible, since there were only a few million people in all of Europe then, so I sometimes half jokingly say that every European probably has a line back to Charlemgne somehow.
@@valentijnrozeveld3773that a quite interesting claim. Because Julius Caesar had, as far as we know, only 2 biological children. Both died young without surviving children. So how do you descent from a man who’s descendants died within his lifetime? Julia’s Caesar’s children: His daughter Julia, who was married to Pompey and died in childbirth along with her child. His son Cesarion, born out of wedlock to Cleopatra. Died at 17 without issue, probably on orders of Augustus. Adoptive: Ceasar adopted his nephew, Gaius Octavianus Ceasar, better known under his title of “Augustus”. Augustus had 1 surviving biological child (Julia the Elder) who had surviving issue. Now, under Roman law an adoptive child is the same as a biological child. But lines of descend don’t work that way. If you descend from Augustus, it would make much more sense to to claim descend from him and not from Ceasar
People are indeed tall here in the Netherlands. I am not, but when I am abroad I am normal size or even tall. Once I stood in front of the Mona Lisa and there was an entire busload of Japonese people in front of me. I was a head taller than all of them and I could easily see the painting. That would never happen when I am in the Netherlands.
You forgot to mention in the medieval era a sizable amount of Dutch farmers moved to the territory the Teuton knights "christened by the sword"" creating what later would become Prussia, and now are part of Poland and the Baltic states. You can notice this today in the Dutch names used in the Witcher ( game and series ) which fantasy environment is based around that area in the medieval era. Since Stalin chased away or killed much of the Prussian population by erasing Prussia from history after WWII i am not so sure traces of Dutch DNA still exist in that area. Probably were displaced to Germany, of which the Netherlands territories were part of for centuries anyway.
Even today you can see a physical difference between the people from the two northern provinces and the rest of the country and in particular the south. It's quit remarkable.
The theory is that catholic families in the south got more children and therefore the food was less. Dutch are taller because of a proteïne rich diet like meat and dairy and a lot of cheese.
@@lienbijs1205Hence it is said He or she is from above the rivers or under the rivers. . The people from under the rivers are more open, happier, love conviviality and parties and are more gastronomically laid out. The people from above the rivers are more serious, economical, love simplicity, less gastronomic. Maybe because of Calvinism.
@@castorpollux3389thats not true. I am born in Groningen and have been living in Haarlem for 20 years now. The biggest difference is the mentality. In the North it is free and social and in the West it is unwelcoming and businessminded. I am used to it now.
In the Netherlands there is a saying: 'Born on the correct side of the river.' Which is basically just banter if you hear an accent from the east, south or west. Perhaps there is more history to it but idk
It always intrigues me where so many Anatolian farmers came from to form the population of Europe, maybe there were no farmers left in Anatolia and the population disappeared due to hunger, since the farmers all went to Europe
@@EGO0808The whole history consists of migration patterns, sometimes from entire continents. Look at the US, New Zealand and Australia, almost completely taken over by migrants, especially from Europe. Almost no original population left.
@@castorpollux3389 I know. And in recent years globalization and digitization creates even more migration. Look at Dubai, where no more than 12% is of Emirati, native origin. Many more examples, especially in the developed nations.
Whether it impacted northern or Southern Netherlands isn't really important because Southerners also from modern Belgium have moved north in the hundreds of thousands especially in the 1500's and ww1. And intermixed.
You forgot to mention that the golden period of the Netherlands started with an influx of refugees from the southern low countries (the current Belgium)
@@henkvandervossen6616 yes but the scale was completely different. When there are 70000 french huguenots more than half of the population of the southern netherlands fled. Big cities like Brugge Ghent Antwerp lost up to 80% of their population. Often well educated and wealthy people. Up to 60% of the habitants of Leiden were refugees from the southern netherlands, current Belgium and north of France
Well you may not get an accurate sample due to modern migration and even irregular migration of the previous era. Switzerland for example is much more largely Southern European than you'd think because it was such a haven for Italian (Savoyard) Protestants during eras of Catholic violence. Which would be considered irregular migration. So there's going to be a lot of variation depending on the individual. And depending on what era the testing is done. Example: Human remains in Southern Germany show mixed Northern European and East Asian DNA but only up to a certain time period when geneticists assume the signature was bred out. Modern Germans are their descendant but they have no DNA to them because it's been bred out. The remains of the ancestors of these people do have the unique East Asia DNA signature , however. Which shows at some point they lost it. Probably because the generation of migrants directly from the Far East was limited to one or two waves. So the Dutch DNA of today isn't the same as 500 years ago and so on. So you have to see it in context. The sample is going to be different depending on the era.
@@celtichistorydecoded I believe its pronounced Van Houch, with the ch as in loch. Its definitely not a G sound as in gate, its much softer and is more glottal. Pretty easy for a Scottish voice to get around it.
@@100percentnonofyourbiz The Dutch gh is pronounced as ch as in loch. The g at the beginning is a glottal h, thus Houch; much closer to hook than goff.
@@iainmc9859 I'm dutch so i think i know how to pronounce it....(and yes that is sarcasm) the g at the beginning is actualy a hard g as we call it in dutch not even close to a hhh sound
Funny you show the portrait of the King and Queen of The Netherlands: He is of German descent, she is Argentinian. Same for myself btw, Dutchman, born in the Netherlands and grew up there, but of German descent. Anyway, I prefer Germany over The Netherlands, way more decent people. :-)))
IT IS NOT DAN KO , and NOT FEN GOK!! It is vvvvvahnnn Gogh with GT pronounced like CH in lochness, AND gh, pronoubced like CH in lochness...Stop murdering the poor felows name PLEASE! He is NOT Chinese...
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It's a great video! However I do wonder why Frisian history is always put into Dutch history videos when they are a separate germanic group that only inhabited the coast, the Dutch are the Salian Franks and speak the purest and most unchanged form of Frankish(not strange since the Franks almost exclusively inhabited the lands surrounding the Rhine), Frankish history and impact is what the Dutch people, culture and language is, not Frisian/Frisi, Saxon or Dane, these were minority groups which left tiny impacts on Dutch/Salian history which is much bigger and more impactful, I mean France, a gallo-roman country literally got its name under Frankish/Old Dutch occupation for example.
My wife and I did such a DNA test. My wife is Viking Heritage (Northern Netherlands) and I myself Celtic Heritage (South-West Netherlands). As you can imagine, we fight it out every day:)
The border between Keltic dominant and Germanic dominant was already pushed towards southern Belgium as far back as 2000 years ago. The Netherlands is a Germanic country.
I don't know who sold you that nonsense but
1. vikings were not an ethnic group, it was an occupation and
2. The nothern Netherlands was subjectbto viking raids, it did not commit them
@@TechWechSech Lotsa people in the northern provinces have scandinavian blood and not because vikings happened to be attractive lol
you're right tho, the history of raids against the frysians and dutch is terrible
@@TechWechSech 2 is not entirely true. The Frisians were like the vikings stil heathens when the viking age began and fought many wars with the Christianized Franks. It was a border region between the kingdom of the Franks and the kingdom of Danmark at various times being part of one or the other. The Frisians also participated in the earlier conquest of Britannia together with the Saxons, Angles and Jutes. The Germanic culture and people formed in what is now southern Sweden.
As a southern European who lived in the Netherlands, I can guarantee the Dutch are tall for real ;)
We know my small friend, we know xD.
thats why latinas love their gringo's :P
True. I'm 6' / 1.83m, and sightly below average.
@@elricthebald870was about to say this. 183 and still have to look up so often when talking to people
198 cm
Nice! Someone from Scotland will have no difficulties in pronunciating 'Van Gogh'. The 'a' is like Scottish 'a', both 'g' and 'gh' are close to Scottish 'ch'. Si say 'van choch' and there you are!
Ouch! You stepped on the Jos Bazelmans landmine. He's the one who came up with the idea that there is no historical/genetic relationship between the classical Frisii and the medieval and modern Frisians. He cites marine inundations and a lack of historical references to the Frisians during a short period to the annihilation of the Frisii and people wandering in and adopting the name Frisian ratione soli. I have spoken extensively with Frisian scholars, and Bazelmans' ideas have been thoroughly discredited. I have been told Bazelmans has backed off these contentions, but they persist on the Internet. There are indeed references to the Frisii/Frisians at the juncture of the fall of the Roman Empire and the Early Medieval Period. Marine inundations didn't drown the entirety of what is now the Netherlands. If the sea encroaches, you move a little further inland. Today's Frisians are descendants of the classical Frisii. Indeed, the Frisians took advantage of the Migration Period to expand their territory from around the now defunct Lake Flevo eastward such that their political center of gravity moved that direction and the prestige dialect of their language was spoken on the East Frisian Peninsula. Like many Americans of ostensibly Dutch ancestry dating to the 1600s, my ancestor was Frisian. Christoffel Harmens was born in Kleverens (modernly Cleverns) in 1618. The Frisian spoken modernly in the Netherlands has been under severe pressure from Dutch for centuries, and Christoffel's Frisian doubtless sounded like the now-extinct Wangerooge Frisian and Saterfrisian that remained mutually intelligible until the former's demise. The British passed a law in the late 1600s that forbade the use of patronyms, so we adopted the name van Zandt. These patronyms persist on the East Frisian Peninsula with old Frisian clan names like Cirksena, Tammena and Tjarksena now functioning as last names. And, yes, my Y DNA haplotype is R1B.
Are there examples of ancient burials in the Netherlands that have Y DNA results? I've read that the soil is not good for preserving bones / DNA. I've also read that there is unpublished work regarding the subject. I know, I know, I could Google but, rabbit holes...
@@kevingriffin1376 The ancient Germanic tribes practiced cremation for the most part, and this makes such DNA scarce.
Well.....
There's are a number of bog bodies found that could provide the answer.
Thanks for this awesome explanation! 👍
This explains how the Anatolian agriculturalists, Iron Age & Scandinavian DNA got into my Dutch ancestors !!!! Haplogroup H10e. So very interesting!!! Thanks a million!!
Excellent overview! I'm Dutch from Frisian decent on my father's side an Hugenot from my mother's side of the family. The cultural divide between north and south is real but not divisive in nature.
Thank you and thanks for sharing, very interesting.
The divide is about 5 to 10 cm between the north and the south 😂
Funny, so am I 😊
Just a hint, "Van Gogh" rhymes with "Loch" (in a Scots' accent).
It comes from a town in Germany.
So glad you mentioned it
Texan here with R-U106 Fresian ancestry.
The Lone Star symbology comes from the House of Orange.
Frisia boppe!!
i know my mothers family history is from Friesland, (helped build the afsluitdijk on the west side, and moved to Texel when that work dried up, survived the german occupation there and moved to Beverwijk after because of work the Steel factory provided. most of my uncles still work there)
and my fathers side from central Netherlands and thats all i know about there history.
wish i knew more. but i dont trust my data security (or what they do on purpose with your DATA) to companies that do those DNA tests.
I am Dutch and I did a DNA test with also haplogroups. My paternal haplogroup is actually more common in Southern Italy, North-Africa and West-Asia, even though we live in the Netherlands for at least 400 years or something (as far I can find the family tree and I have found no Spanish or Italian ancestors so I don't know where my sisters Italian DNA comes from). I do have a German in 1830 in the family and Flanders. I am Southern Dutch (Brabant). My sister did have 2.9% Italian in her DNA, but I didn't have that and neither my dad or the grandmother on my moms side. I am now 100% Dutch but before that I was 81,8% North-Western European, 16,8% English and 1,4% Irish, Scottish and Welsh. I have paternal haplogroep G (Which male mummie Yuya in Egypt also had) mine specifically is unique as it only occurs 1 in 13000 at 23andme and its: G-Z37368. The Maternal haplogroup is: J2a1a which is supposedly a more common one in Western Europe including Denmark. The G haplogroup has no R in its journey.
Hat to be the one to say it but you and your sister should do a test to see if you have the same father 😅
Might just be random noise - associating parts of genomes with regions is not an exact science, more like a well informed estimate. Generally, you shouldn't look at data under 5% as being established fact, especially if they go against proven family records. Fractions that small could just be an error during measurement, or a chunk of DNA that's interpreted as something it's not. These little fractions tend to differ between providers of tests like these as well. Alternatively, it's of course possible that the family records don't match up with genetic reality, and one of your maternal ancestors had an extramarital affair with some mediterranean sailor, which is the more fun explanation :)
First of all: Love the Scottish accent! Was a pleasure to listen to you.
I am interested in doing a DNA test. I am dutch, living in the Netherlands and is there a test you can recommend? For some reason I don' t want to send my DNA to the US or another country outside of the EU. But so far I haven't found any. And maybe I am just way to paranoid.
Same problem here with a DNA test. I don't believe the results of the test are safe or destroyed.
I have no crminal past or anything like that. But I don't trust what they will do with the test results in the future.
Thanks, very informative. As a Dutchman I had to watch this of course 🙂.
From a Mormon herritage database I traced a herritage line back to Charlemagne (39 generations back) as well as Alfred the Great (35 generations back).
So I should at least have some Frankish and Saxon blood I guess.
But considering if you go back 38 generations you would potentially have 270 billion ancestors, which is obviously impossible, since there were only a few million people in all of Europe then, so I sometimes half jokingly say that every European probably has a line back to Charlemgne somehow.
Thanks. Yes, I think every European is essentially related to Charlemagne the way the numbers work out, but it's still cool anyway
My line is traced back to Julius Ceasar.
@@valentijnrozeveld3773that a quite interesting claim.
Because Julius Caesar had, as far as we know, only 2 biological children. Both died young without surviving children. So how do you descent from a man who’s descendants died within his lifetime?
Julia’s Caesar’s children:
His daughter Julia, who was married to Pompey and died in childbirth along with her child.
His son Cesarion, born out of wedlock to Cleopatra. Died at 17 without issue, probably on orders of Augustus.
Adoptive: Ceasar adopted his nephew, Gaius Octavianus Ceasar, better known under his title of “Augustus”. Augustus had 1 surviving biological child (Julia the Elder) who had surviving issue. Now, under Roman law an adoptive child is the same as a biological child. But lines of descend don’t work that way. If you descend from Augustus, it would make much more sense to to claim descend from him and not from Ceasar
Excellent
Thanks
great video man keep up the good work
My Frisian forefathers bequeathed upon me a large, broad forehead, a big nose, and red-ish blonde hair.
My sympathies.
You are probably 6ft5 so that helps
broad forehead gang, good look for a baseball cap or an authority demanding bald/buzzed head 8)
People are indeed tall here in the Netherlands. I am not, but when I am abroad I am normal size or even tall.
Once I stood in front of the Mona Lisa and there was an entire busload of Japonese people in front of me. I was a head taller than all of them and I could easily see the painting. That would never happen when I am in the Netherlands.
As a Dutch person i thought i wasn't that big but than i heard we have the tallest people in the world it has blown my mind
With the influx of migrants the average is now 1.77, a couple of years ago it was 1.83!!
You forgot to mention in the medieval era a sizable amount of Dutch farmers moved to the territory the Teuton knights "christened by the sword"" creating what later would become Prussia, and now are part of Poland and the Baltic states. You can notice this today in the Dutch names used in the Witcher ( game and series ) which fantasy environment is based around that area in the medieval era. Since Stalin chased away or killed much of the Prussian population by erasing Prussia from history after WWII i am not so sure traces of Dutch DNA still exist in that area. Probably were displaced to Germany, of which the Netherlands territories were part of for centuries anyway.
That is interesting because Prussians were tall as well.
1m77 is the average height of men + women in the Netherlands. Males are on average 1m84 and women 1m70
Only 77% of all the inhabitants of The Netherlands is Dutch. So is it 177m for all Dutch or for all inhabitants...
great vid, I had to put the speed to 0.75 to understand it all.😃
You don't know English?
Your knowledge is smashing! 👌👍
Even today you can see a physical difference between the people from the two northern provinces and the rest of the country and in particular the south.
It's quit remarkable.
The theory is that catholic families in the south got more children and therefore the food was less. Dutch are taller because of a proteïne rich diet like meat and dairy and a lot of cheese.
@@lienbijs1205Hence it is said He or she is from above the rivers or under the rivers. . The people from under the rivers are more open, happier, love conviviality and parties and are more gastronomically laid out.
The people from above the rivers are more serious, economical, love simplicity, less gastronomic. Maybe because of Calvinism.
@@castorpollux3389thats not true. I am born in Groningen and have been living in Haarlem for 20 years now. The biggest difference is the mentality. In the North it is free and social and in the West it is unwelcoming and businessminded.
I am used to it now.
@@sea.imagineering Haarlem is still North. I am talking about the North and South.
@@castorpollux3389 I dont think people in the North are more serious and love simplicity.
Live in Friesland it was easy for me to learn English
In the Netherlands there is a saying: 'Born on the correct side of the river.' Which is basically just banter if you hear an accent from the east, south or west. Perhaps there is more history to it but idk
Down South we call everyone and everything above the river Hollanders
@@turkmenistan1940 I don't listen to people that call it friet
@@croozerdog PTSCHAT AT
@@croozerdog PTSCHAT AT, mhmm jammie
@@turkmenistan1940 nou brek mien klomp
Excellent but slow down! This American had real trouble listening as fast as you spoke! Keep up the good work!
You can play it at .75 speed. 😉
Im dutch and used to fast speaking people. And im strugling to a bit, its good feedback.
I found the subtitles to be very helpful and accurate. And I noticed he actually talks slower than he used to. Subtitles to the rescue!!
It always intrigues me where so many Anatolian farmers came from to form the population of Europe, maybe there were no farmers left in Anatolia and the population disappeared due to hunger, since the farmers all went to Europe
It's part of the Great Migration plus they mixed with the local peoples (Hunter/Gatherers) in southern Europe mainly.
Well, even nowadays there is still a large Anatolian population in The Netherlands...
@@EGO0808The whole history consists of migration patterns, sometimes from entire continents. Look at the US, New Zealand and Australia, almost completely taken over by migrants, especially from Europe. Almost no original population left.
@@castorpollux3389 I know. And in recent years globalization and digitization creates even more migration. Look at Dubai, where no more than 12% is of Emirati, native origin. Many more examples, especially in the developed nations.
Whether it impacted northern or Southern Netherlands isn't really important because Southerners also from modern Belgium have moved north in the hundreds of thousands especially in the 1500's and ww1. And intermixed.
2:01 ahh so we did invent the bong.
No that came from China we just did cultivate Canabis
You forgot to mention that the golden period of the Netherlands started with an influx of refugees from the southern low countries (the current Belgium)
Also french protestant Hugenots
@@henkvandervossen6616 yes but the scale was completely different. When there are 70000 french huguenots more than half of the population of the southern netherlands fled. Big cities like Brugge Ghent Antwerp lost up to 80% of their population. Often well educated and wealthy people. Up to 60% of the habitants of Leiden were refugees from the southern netherlands, current Belgium and north of France
Interesting, but what does it mean?
That we are not Dutch people, but a combination of all kinds of genes through migration. As is still happening today.
We don't have a painter called Van Cock It's Van Gogh.
Ah, the typical Dutch wisenose.
Shout to my U106 homies!
Well you may not get an accurate sample due to modern migration and even irregular migration of the previous era. Switzerland for example is much more largely Southern European than you'd think because it was such a haven for Italian (Savoyard) Protestants during eras of Catholic violence. Which would be considered irregular migration. So there's going to be a lot of variation depending on the individual. And depending on what era the testing is done.
Example: Human remains in Southern Germany show mixed Northern European and East Asian DNA but only up to a certain time period when geneticists assume the signature was bred out. Modern Germans are their descendant but they have no DNA to them because it's been bred out. The remains of the ancestors of these people do have the unique East Asia DNA signature , however. Which shows at some point they lost it. Probably because the generation of migrants directly from the Far East was limited to one or two waves.
So the Dutch DNA of today isn't the same as 500 years ago and so on. So you have to see it in context. The sample is going to be different depending on the era.
Danes and Dutch look very similar
We're family! That is nice!
I'm Dutch but found out I'm in haplogroup J1
You have a good accent are you Irish greetings from the Netherlands
Did a DNA test, and most of my origins come from Scandinavia, but also strange, allot from the US.
Van Gogh with the-gh pronounced! Do you speak Dutch? Do Scots speakers pronounce Gogh as do the Dutch?
I looked up how to pronounce it but I'm not sure if I got it right, I don't speak Dutch.
@@celtichistorydecoded I believe its pronounced Van Houch, with the ch as in loch. Its definitely not a G sound as in gate, its much softer and is more glottal. Pretty easy for a Scottish voice to get around it.
@@iainmc9859 If you would pronounce it using the 'loch' as a reference then it would be van choch....
@@100percentnonofyourbiz The Dutch gh is pronounced as ch as in loch. The g at the beginning is a glottal h, thus Houch; much closer to hook than goff.
@@iainmc9859 I'm dutch so i think i know how to pronounce it....(and yes that is sarcasm) the g at the beginning is actualy a hard g as we call it in dutch not even close to a hhh sound
as german I would guess........west frisian and saxon in direction to the german border........west germanic like we here in northwest Germany......
Funny you show the portrait of the King and Queen of The Netherlands: He is of German descent, she is Argentinian. Same for myself btw, Dutchman, born in the Netherlands and grew up there, but of German descent. Anyway, I prefer Germany over The Netherlands, way more decent people. :-)))
Yes, we know that Germans consider themselves a great breed.😅
Frisi where vikings. Just mixed thrue common tribes.
viking is an occupation, Frisians are Germanic just like the Franks, Saxons, Danes, Goths and Swedes etc.
Easy dutch has a viking/germanic roots
Netherlands means Low Lands, Not low countries.
Funny that as it was also known as High Germany by the Scots in the 17th and 18th century.
Lands = landen = countries.
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You look like van Gogh. 😮
Sorry but Dutch Welkom and goedemorgen is more like English than Fries
The genetic makeup of the country today is not the same as the genetic makeup of the Dutch people, for obvious reasons 😉
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Great achievement! Congratulations!
Wow, even leprechauns find Nederland interesting... Maybe English subtitles make the vide better...
Most of the video had subtitles. The RUclips subtitles were quite good.
I need subtitles to read and understand your comment...
Your comment is a 👎 for me.
IT IS NOT DAN KO , and NOT FEN GOK!! It is vvvvvahnnn Gogh with GT pronounced like CH in lochness, AND gh, pronoubced like CH in lochness...Stop murdering the poor felows name PLEASE! He is NOT Chinese...
Don't be angry about it. I am sure we don't pronounce English as we should as well.
I am Dutch and i understood him very well.
Im aryan
aaaa nice we got a Scot again yuo got some grivvvvvvvy for mi grennny ? A ? I need a thuisand !!! I need a thuisand .... yes