Can You Draw Your Concealed Weapon When It Counts?

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  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt  3 года назад +40

    Check out our sponsor USCCA for self defense training, knowledge and legal protection at www.usccapartners.com/hard2hurt
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    • @somethinsomethin7243
      @somethinsomethin7243 3 года назад

      @9:40 that two hand weapon retention was pretty good. It looks like that could be your next video! It looks like his left knee keeps you from rotating to turn into him. It's thing like that people don't see or practice.

    • @jasonadams8549
      @jasonadams8549 3 года назад

      Have you thought about the necessity of carrying multiples? Refer to Clint Smith "one is none and two is one". I would also suggest blades as a defensive tool as a means to remove any obstacles preventing accessibility when you have close encounters. Fixed blades as an absolute standard. I don't know where you're at, but yes fixed blades are legal in my area. Some ideas to keep in mind, if you haven't thought of them yet.
      Additionally, empty handed skills are fantastic to have as well. Every tool is simply an answer to a question and every question needs an answer.

    • @liamflanagan490
      @liamflanagan490 3 года назад

      @@jasonadams8549 The Clinch pick from Shiv Works is meant for that exact thing. It's supposed to be a knife you can get out when you can't get anything else out.
      Like if you're pinned to the ground, or you're being shoved up against a wall, or you're in your car, and someone is in the passenger seat shoving you into the D pillar.
      Getting a clinch pick out is either going to make them get off of you, and give you enough space to get a firearm out, or, they're going to get filleted. You can;t really take a clinch pick away from someone without getting cut real bad.

    • @mikeemmons1079
      @mikeemmons1079 3 года назад

      You are working with big guys, big guys dont have anywhere near as many threats to assess. When there is a threat for a big guy, it is usually full on red cuz whoever it is just pulled an equaliser out of their trunk. Get some average sized guys.

    • @danared1848
      @danared1848 3 года назад +1

      Start doing a series where you compare self defense tools, something like machete vs hammer

  • @ThisJam44
    @ThisJam44 3 года назад +393

    Mike: "You've got a 50/50 chance of failing at self defense or succeeding at murder."
    Narrator: They hated him, because he spoke the truth.

    • @jrbpainting6470
      @jrbpainting6470 3 года назад +6

      @Christy Guichard you're just making shit up lol, no one is calling people nazis for shooting actual muggers in a struggle, typical shit to just make up a scenario and get mad about it

  • @LarsJ1977
    @LarsJ1977 3 года назад +704

    Duh.. just draw your piece when you hear the scary music!

  • @enoughofyourkoicarp
    @enoughofyourkoicarp 3 года назад +346

    "I would *just* do this thing!"
    Ah yes, Just-Jutsu, the most popular form of Bullshido.

    • @MrKeepnit100
      @MrKeepnit100 3 года назад +13

      I'm a dectuple stripe 15th degree super kami guru dragon black belt in Just jutsu.

    • @heksariusl8916
      @heksariusl8916 3 года назад +13

      If it was easy to win a fight with just one "thing" everyone could do it and win the fight

    • @Donky_Kongs_Baby
      @Donky_Kongs_Baby 3 года назад +1

      @Ike but no Mike It's not about whether or not the person who attacks you is trained but even if you assume that most males in America have played football or done wrestling which means 8 times out of ten they will tackle you pretty effective or sucker punch you if you watch world star you see it happen all the time and like Mike says everyone has a plan till they are punched. So to say oh I'm going to do (insert b.s. here) is not practical unless you train and even then it is a hard task you still need to be able to fight. This also excludes legal ramifications and legal issues that may be presented after the fact.

    • @Murcielag0scuro
      @Murcielag0scuro 3 года назад +1

      @@MrKeepnit100 Super kami guru... TFS?

    • @MrKeepnit100
      @MrKeepnit100 3 года назад +2

      @@Murcielag0scuro I see you also are one of culture

  • @SenseiSeth
    @SenseiSeth 3 года назад +468

    My legs are my concealed weapons, but only when I wear pants

    • @aqibpatwary
      @aqibpatwary 3 года назад +14

      thank you sensei seth very cool

    • @StormBringare
      @StormBringare 3 года назад +10

      Are they registered as lethal weapons though?

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth 3 года назад +29

      @@StormBringare of course, I’m a law abiding citizen

    • @StormBringare
      @StormBringare 3 года назад +2

      @@SenseiSeth
      And my farts are deadly, between you, me and Bruce Lee we almost have an entire lethal human.

    • @makaiev
      @makaiev 3 года назад +1

      Running away is the 2º best self defense move.

  • @gozer87
    @gozer87 3 года назад +229

    What I like about this channel is that the self defense tips are leavened with a helping of common sense and sarcasm.

  • @alduin69
    @alduin69 3 года назад +257

    "Any time you put a 'just' in there, you're full of crap."
    Mike, it astounds me how much you say which is simply perfect. This is why I am here.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 3 года назад +8

      I'm sorry, clearly Mike is ignoring how I could just use my magical powers of flight to escape

    • @darrellwil64
      @darrellwil64 3 года назад +2

      That is my take-away from this video.

    • @BaconSizzleWasTaken
      @BaconSizzleWasTaken Год назад

      yeah, it’s j… it’s ju- it’s perfect

  • @Chris.Haines.
    @Chris.Haines. 3 года назад +200

    Yes "I would just shoot them" is my second favorite line. Only topped by "I would just kick em in the nutz" We all know that attackers come up bow politely then stand bow legged and say "excuse me good citizen I am your attacker would you like to defend before I rob you"

    • @piman-qt7of
      @piman-qt7of 3 года назад +26

      Let us play a game of chess for your wallet

    • @miesvaillanykyisyytta3252
      @miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 3 года назад +1

      That and maze, stabbing etc. does not work in every instance but shooting worked for George Zimmerman even though he was on the ground and being pummeled. It's not bad to know some unarmed self-defense just like it's not bad to take a first aid course but not every person needs to be a doctor and it's obnoxious to ridicule them for it. Most people would rather be mugged, raped and even killed than spend ten years rolling on a fungus ridden mat so they would be considered effective by some guy who plays on people's fears to make money.

    • @ScroDiddly
      @ScroDiddly 3 года назад +13

      "Just kick him in the knee."
      I actually used to say that when I was a kid. Then, I wasn't a kid and stopped.

    • @StyleTime
      @StyleTime 3 года назад +12

      @@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252
      Zimmerman actually did have some MMA training, so it probably helped him access to his weapon.
      And the mats at gyms and dojos are cleaned and disinfected. Shouldn't be fungus riddled unless the place sucks.
      The fear mongering for profit applies to everything though, guns too.
      People saying "I would just shoot him" are often mocking the idea of training martial arts, so I'm not really mad at returning the sentiment tbh. People oversimplify way too much stuff these days, and not in just self defense.

    • @emirsirem9266
      @emirsirem9266 3 года назад +3

      You forgot the famed "I would just kick them in the knee "

  • @Nikkiv4u
    @Nikkiv4u 3 года назад +55

    I like how you respect the size and skills of your students. A lot of teachers have that tough-guy mentality with big guys, even though everyone in the room knows what happens if they go all out.

  • @RyNotBread
    @RyNotBread 3 года назад +103

    Mike: is being smothered by wrestler
    Also mike: "I would just shoot him"
    Sounds about right for the comments lol

  • @Yoshi-dp1bc
    @Yoshi-dp1bc 3 года назад +92

    ‘Well, because you’re in my personal space and you just-‘

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +36

      And now I'm dead lol

  • @WithLoveFromJessie
    @WithLoveFromJessie 3 года назад +101

    It says a lot about Nate's character that he didn't even know how to PRETEND to be a bad guy walking up to you

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +29

      I can't say the same lol...

  • @jacksonlee2279
    @jacksonlee2279 3 года назад +25

    Lmaooo! When Nate had you on the ground and you were saying “I would just shoot him” I was dying.

  • @iisgray
    @iisgray 3 года назад +42

    Every fight in this was amusing and entertaining, and then each time I remembered I was actually watching my hypothetical self getting my shit absolutely kicked in

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +18

      Yeah its fun until you think what we are simulating lol

    • @oscarbear7498
      @oscarbear7498 Год назад

      100% I'm Mike's height.
      I'm laughing until I think, holy crap that's what I would look like but worse because I don't make my living by train LOL, so I'm extra screwed .
      Makes you respect big dudes more , the sheer strength they have to go ape shit and smash is nuts

  • @nickarnold1622
    @nickarnold1622 3 года назад +108

    I only wear thai shorts and a gi top on a date

    • @groenpaardje
      @groenpaardje 3 года назад +23

      Gi top with a bow tie for weddings.

  • @hester9311
    @hester9311 3 года назад +39

    "I'm here to assault you!"
    "No thanks, already had rough day."

  • @MG-bi6mq
    @MG-bi6mq 3 года назад +34

    Takes me a few moments and a lot of screaming to charge up my chi blasts. Best course of action is to have a climactic battle (maybe get beaten up a bit so you have an underdog finish) and then launch your kamehameha as a finishing blow.
    Don’t forget to double tap.

    • @christianxxx9393
      @christianxxx9393 3 года назад +2

      Just casually screams for 5 min

    • @anselmvantil7328
      @anselmvantil7328 3 года назад +1

      Thats why you need b level characters to be cannon fodder while you power up. Perhaps a friend no one really likes?

  • @isaweesaw
    @isaweesaw 3 года назад +26

    Never even thought of that initial point. By the time you have a justifiable reason to use force, you're already going to be fighting to get to your weapon
    Great video and visualisation as always

    • @gamersforlife3440
      @gamersforlife3440 3 года назад

      Just shoot before they try or stay far away

    • @gamersforlife3440
      @gamersforlife3440 3 года назад

      murder is better then trouble

    • @isaweesaw
      @isaweesaw 3 года назад +7

      @@gamersforlife3440 How about neither? You can't just shoot everyone you think might threaten you

    • @gamersforlife3440
      @gamersforlife3440 3 года назад

      @@isaweesaw Lol if someone coming at me or trying to provoke me will aim gun and if he do something i will shoot if u wont u are an idiot bro :)

    • @gamersforlife3440
      @gamersforlife3440 3 года назад

      @@isaweesaw Its ok i can understand maybe ur country is different law wise but for me i would shoot i wont let them take advantage of me.I know how to defend myself and read behavioural patterns.

  • @paulsmith4889
    @paulsmith4889 3 года назад +34

    Weapon retention or force on force classes will open eyes to those "I'll just shoot'em."

  • @adamkreuz9068
    @adamkreuz9068 3 года назад +8

    A lot of gun owners need to watch this. I know I'm not good at fighting so when I carry I focus all of my energy on avoiding conflict and being aware of my surroundings. Also started carrying pepper spray because you don't always have to shoot someone.

  • @outdoorsythings2573
    @outdoorsythings2573 3 года назад +34

    Very informative.
    Might I add one thing..
    If your attacker had a knife, I think that would change everything. I personally know it would. And most knife attacks happen with out warning making it very unlikely you will get your firearm out. I know the police here have a 20 foot rule. Any closer and they wouldn't be able to draw and shoot before the person is on them. Great video. Good info. Keep up the great content

    • @solarissv777
      @solarissv777 3 года назад +4

      in this scenario, you will get cut anyway, but how severely, depends on your training. For police, security and others who are likely to be stabbed due to their occupation, the reasonable solution to improve the chance of survival would be stab proof/resistant armor.

    • @chrisjones6002
      @chrisjones6002 3 года назад +8

      The 21' "rule" was never intended as a rule. It started from some testing that was done and they found it was the minimum distance that an officer could reliably draw and get at least one shot off if charged by someone they are watching. That means you are almost certainly getting cut or stabbed at that distance unless you also move or get an immediately incapacitating hit, think central nervous system only. That's assuming you are completely focused on your attacker, carrying open and have a respectable draw to first shot time too. Pistols suck at stopping people quickly so you better be a really good shot or plan to move as it's happening.

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 3 года назад

      @@chrisjones6002 But it also doesn't account for the fact that you're not likely to run into people stupid enough to keep charging through bullets.
      Nearly all people will fuck off when they see a gun, unless you are particularly special.

    • @chrisjones6002
      @chrisjones6002 3 года назад +2

      @@totalmetaljacket789 a rational person would stop of course but many violent people aren't rational. Did you see the videos of the guys charging police with knives lately? I remember seeing two separate incidents where the cops had to shoot them.
      Also people who are worked up won't necessarily know they've been shot or even react to it before getting to you.

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 3 года назад

      @@chrisjones6002 I'm not a cop, and most violent people are rational enough to avoid death.
      This isn't a made up opinion. I've seen my fair share of self defense shootings in my time on the internet, and most run.

  • @SaftonYT
    @SaftonYT 3 года назад +19

    6:10
    I love how Mike's idea of motivation for his students to tackle him is to slap them in the face.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +12

      He started to back off and i had to slap him again to get him to go when we were on the ground too lol

  • @paulpolito2001
    @paulpolito2001 3 года назад +5

    For real, impeded malfunction clearance is one of those things most people never even think of, so huge props, Mike. Tap-rack-bang plus a few extra steps is a lot harder to do right. Learn to use your kit, ffs.

  • @sampokuru8141
    @sampokuru8141 3 года назад +16

    You would also have to consider if the other person notices the weapon on your body they will probably also try to take it from you, like in some extended wrestling

  • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
    @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 года назад +44

    Yes, I can, I'm very good at drawing. And I always carry some paper, so I can have something to draw on.

  • @areallybigdwarf4560
    @areallybigdwarf4560 3 года назад +21

    9:13
    cliff was like "chill out bro it's just a wallet"

    • @canphan1375
      @canphan1375 3 года назад +1

      The most emotion we’ve ever seen cliff show next we see a big smile

  • @GodspeedZX6
    @GodspeedZX6 3 года назад +7

    I`m trying to convince some of the BJJ crew to try this with me. Most of us carry and I feel like this type of training often gets neglected.

  • @ArchieSuave
    @ArchieSuave 3 года назад +3

    Another really well thought out video. You are one of the best guys on YT because you actually give a counter argument to all the shit mall ninjas talk about. Lots of people out there act like everything is easier than it sounds and that there are short cuts for training. You always demonstrate the contrary.

  • @perrenchan6600
    @perrenchan6600 3 года назад +26

    As the old saying goes, dont put all your eggs into one basket.
    A serious question though, if you were to flip the scenario and say you tackled someone because youre scared they may have a gun, would it look like this grappling/wrestling kind of scenario? If so how would you further develop it to have a higher success rate of disarming the guy?

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +17

      Get a training gun and wrestle over it with a friend. That's what it looks like.

    • @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
      @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 3 года назад +9

      Don’t tackle people with guns. Case in point, Kyle Rittenhouse.

    • @perrenchan6600
      @perrenchan6600 3 года назад +1

      @@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 tell that to the bad guy in this video demonstration 😂

    • @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
      @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 3 года назад

      @@perrenchan6600 You’re forgetting that most of them got shot 😂

    • @perrenchan6600
      @perrenchan6600 3 года назад +1

      @@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 they got shot either way, it's almost as if it's bad to attack people 🤔😂

  • @Spartan120
    @Spartan120 3 года назад +4

    Kinda reminds me of that time when Shane from fightTips talked about his home self-defense class where they simulated an attacker in your bedroom and you had to draw your pistol from the nightstand. Shane was the only one who successfully fended off the attacker & got a shot off because he was the only one who focused on using unarmed fighting/jiujitsu to subdue the attacker first. Everyone else tried to reach for the pistol first and got into a wrestling match over it (which they lost).

    • @JCPRuckus
      @JCPRuckus 3 года назад +4

      You: Just woke up in surprise from a dead sleep.
      Intruder: Just spent 10 minutes psyching himself up to fuck somebody up if he has to.
      Who's going to win the first 30 seconds of that wrestling match?... You probably don't want that 30 seconds to be wrestling over a gun.

    • @totalmetaljacket789
      @totalmetaljacket789 3 года назад +3

      @@JCPRuckus Well I'd hope I wouldn't be waking up when they get to my bedroom door... All the other noise beforehand would probably be good enough.

    • @JCPRuckus
      @JCPRuckus 3 года назад

      @@totalmetaljacket789 - Yeah, but that's not the scenario OP was talking about. So that's not the point I was making.

  • @colesaul-milligan7478
    @colesaul-milligan7478 3 года назад +4

    Thanks Mike and company!

  • @ArmorPiercingTyrant
    @ArmorPiercingTyrant 3 года назад +6

    This is hands down my favorite Hard2Hurt video.
    I want an "I would just shoot him" t-shirt with you trapped under Nate.

  • @rye-bread5236
    @rye-bread5236 3 года назад +2

    Gotta say the part at 3:24 was super informative.
    Underhook then across the back to pin the arm to prevent punches, but set up with the free hand attaining wrist control and pushing it to position.
    Head position plus arm hold takedown.
    Then at 3:42 punch the head get them to grab your wrists and guide that away from their body opening up a knee slide across the bicep, to NS.
    Solid. I'll try that next time I roll.
    Great video. I know many fat guys who have this mentality.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +2

      lol this dude likes to learn... he's looking at the video behind the video

    • @rye-bread5236
      @rye-bread5236 3 года назад

      @@hard2hurt Thanks mate, love your videos, wish I could train with y'all but I'm over in VA. I'm just trying to be a sponge so I can be better than yesterday.

  • @user-nw4bw2he7h
    @user-nw4bw2he7h 3 года назад +7

    Remember, and I do not mean this in an aggravating way, I want to remind you that semi autos with vasculating barrels are very unreliable when you push them into someone. I say this because you're seen a couple of times stabbing the guy with the barrell. And in a striker fired gun like a glock if you fuck that up the gun becomes useless.
    Take care nice video

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +7

      You mean like i said would happen in the video lol?

    • @user-nw4bw2he7h
      @user-nw4bw2he7h 3 года назад +11

      @@hard2hurt I just noticed you saying it, it wasnt clear enough for me just because I don't speak good english and had to replay a few times, my bad. In that case well done man, love your channel keep it up.

    • @HickLif3
      @HickLif3 3 года назад +1

      This is why weapon lights are awesome. Get a tlr-1 on a g19 or something and it's a built in stand off. But best practice would be to try and hold it back. Craig Douglas has awesome videos on that

  • @sidneyg8470
    @sidneyg8470 3 года назад +3

    Hey I just found your channel and I'm such a big fan already, your vids remind me of shooting the shit with my crossfit or bjj coaches before class, I really miss training these days and these videos keep me thinking about technique, i really appreciate it

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +1

      Are you doing something at least? calisthenics? conditioning? solo drills?

  • @scottratliff9776
    @scottratliff9776 3 года назад +1

    Best weapon self defense video on the web! I'm a officer and sometimes I feel like no one on Earth has a clue until watch these videos. Thanks bro!

  • @roBLINDhood
    @roBLINDhood 3 года назад +13

    Great video Mike!! The content and the production was both really good.
    This one reminds me of Craig Douglas’s ECQC stuff. Are you familiar with that?

    • @iamthelizardking6239
      @iamthelizardking6239 3 года назад

      I literally just commented that when I saw the first minute I thought of Craig lol

    • @trevor3788
      @trevor3788 3 года назад

      Agreed.
      Good stuff.
      The one with John and the UFC fighter is really good.
      I put the Clinchpick video in another comment on here about car weapons.
      Probably the best on-person carry defense tool I’ve seen.

    • @Shrike200
      @Shrike200 3 года назад

      Oof. I'm getting sweaty just remembering that course. That one left me bruised for a bit.

  • @anratic
    @anratic 3 года назад +2

    Saw a video a while ago on a similar situation... What if your instinct is to fall on your back as you draw your weapon? Increase the distance immediately. You do open yourself to smacking your head on something but you might get the shot off.

  • @nightpandas7178
    @nightpandas7178 2 года назад

    It's not just about avoiding harm to yourself it's also about responding with aggression to a threat. That's a big part of self defense psychology/culture

  • @kylemcmahon9777
    @kylemcmahon9777 3 года назад +2

    First video I saw of yours and can’t wait to see more

  • @smac919
    @smac919 3 года назад +1

    7:23 that would make a great movie line after a realistic tussle / grappling fight for a gun.

  • @tristanhunt9098
    @tristanhunt9098 3 года назад +2

    Great vid mate, people always seem to forget about the practicalities of where you place your self defence tools, if you can't get it out and ready to go when someones got you pinned you fkd up big time, as a rule I always leave the house with a knife or two (two is one one is none) sometimes three depending on time of day/night and where I'm heading one is purposed for self defence the other two are multifunctional for general purposes, always put in the same spots and all easy to get to if I ever need one of them, would rather have one and not need it than need it and not have it especially in today's world

  • @eintracht691
    @eintracht691 3 года назад +2

    I have that same holster. Love it! Ronin 3-L for M&P 2.0C. Great video guys, keep up the good work!

  • @PushyPawn
    @PushyPawn 2 года назад

    "I don't know how to walk up to you and just tackle somebody." *(receives a slap of encouragement)*
    Nate is such a sweet boy.

  • @udaidshabbir
    @udaidshabbir 3 года назад +4

    "I'd rather be judged by 12, than be carried by 6 guys"
    damn!

  • @TheFacesZ31
    @TheFacesZ31 3 года назад

    "Malfunctions" DING DING DING DING DING
    This right here. Having been in my share of fights i recognize that EVERY fight goes to grappling at some point and a firearm that needs to reciprocate in that space will probably end up out of battery.
    I carry a .38 revolver as my backup gun for this reason. Still have to be conscious of the blast from the forcing cone if you carry a .357 and i dont like holes in me if i can avoid it.
    Training with a dummy gun like this is INVALUABLE for carriers but rarely practiced. Thank you Icy Mike.

  • @brantleycombs3088
    @brantleycombs3088 2 месяца назад

    Lmaooo 6:12 “idk how to just walk up to you and tackle you”
    *slap
    “Come on man!”

  • @_Mailman
    @_Mailman 2 года назад

    Wish we had someone local like this cus this is worthwhile practical self defense training I would sign up for

  • @ChefMoshe
    @ChefMoshe 3 года назад +1

    This is one of the most important videos you have made. Well done.

  • @obiwanquixote8423
    @obiwanquixote8423 3 года назад +2

    This was interesting and very informative. Another thing in addition to people being nice, is that it's probably a little legally dubious to go for a gun in the middle of a one on one fist fight where you're still standing and contact has just been made.

  • @driver3899
    @driver3899 3 года назад +2

    " just stand up! " is also another of my favourite comments from the sidelines
    while watching someone get crushed from top pressure by a grappler/wrestler

  • @yamiyomizuki
    @yamiyomizuki 3 года назад +3

    This is essentially what i always say, if someone hasn't tried to lay hands in you, you aren't drawing a deadly weapon, and if they have, a gun isn't going to save you if you can't already fight.

  • @joeholloway4558
    @joeholloway4558 2 года назад +2

    A few thoughts about this. First, if you escalate from ordinary force to deadly force against an unarmed person, depending where you live, you will probably end up locked up. Second, if it does warrant a deadly response, you don't have to play by the rules. Bite em, poke them in the eye, hit them in the throat. Do what you need to break free.

  • @concretebreakdowns9656
    @concretebreakdowns9656 3 года назад +3

    Great vid, some concepts you just gotta physically show.
    Another thing that goes against the "I'd just shoot him" argument: The shots you got off on the ground where from really awkward angles with your wrist, with the gun near your own head. I would NOT have the balls to shoot like that.

  • @iamthelizardking6239
    @iamthelizardking6239 3 года назад +5

    You need to have Craig Douglas on his ECQC course is something you need to experience.

  • @milescorporosus4058
    @milescorporosus4058 2 года назад +2

    When someone says "I would just shoot him," what I hear is someone waiting for an excuse - real or imagined - to pull a gun on another person.

  • @ToyMachine22122
    @ToyMachine22122 3 года назад +1

    This is why I think carrying OC spray is MORE important than a firearm.
    You can deploy OC spray just because someone is acting aggressively*; to deploy a firearm you must have a reasonable fear of grave bodily injury or death. Hopefully by using OC early on in a confrontation, you’ll never need to draw the firearm, and you’ll have a much much easier time dealing with any legal repercussions.
    If you make a misjudgement, the penalty for misuse of OC is gonna be a hell of a lot lighter than the penalty for even just drawing a firearm when it was not justified. The optics are much better too: many criminals carry and use guns, but almost none of them bother with pepper spray (at least not here in the USA afaik).
    All this is why I think that ANYONE who carries a firearm NEEDS to carry OC spray as well.
    (*) please note I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice. Check your local laws for when exactly it is or isn’t okay to use OC.

  • @IHateHandleNames
    @IHateHandleNames 3 года назад +1

    3:54. Dude, that pinky-fire was slick. You've practiced that before a lot. Nobody snaps into pinky-firing that quick.

  • @judofry
    @judofry 3 года назад +2

    To be controversial, I’ve heard revolvers work better in a tussle because they are less likely to have issues like a semi auto, like jamming into someone and pulling the trigger won’t hang it up

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +4

      That's not controversial. That's just true.

    • @PewLand
      @PewLand 3 года назад

      The cylinder can be jammed up from the sides though. But it definitely wont fail to eject because it doesnt eject in the first place lol.

    • @PewLand
      @PewLand 3 года назад

      Also having a weapon light that slightly protrudes past the barrel and slide makes it easier to push the weapon into something without taking it out of battery. This is why I have a tlr1hl on my g19 instead of a flush fitting light.

    • @judofry
      @judofry 3 года назад

      @@hard2hurt this is why I love your channel!

  • @subjer0
    @subjer0 3 года назад

    Craig Douglas of Shivworks is an expert of how to draw your gun when you're entangled with an attacker. It's pretty much use wrestling to get behind your attacker then draw your gun and fire. If you can't, use a knife that's carried opposite of your gun, and draw that and stab your assailant until they back off so you can draw your gun. Check him out, he has some good stuff.

  • @hogue3666
    @hogue3666 2 года назад

    "Limp-wrist test your guns with ammo," I heard Mike say. Awesome stuff!

  • @SerpantVenomMC
    @SerpantVenomMC 3 года назад +1

    Love this my man, great points Mike! A friend of mine took a $1,400 course for 10 weeks (one class a week) on self defense and now claims to be a hand to hand expert. He spent the past few years dogging any kind of martial arts. Even though he took that class, he refuses to be pressure tested even by sparring in a controlled/safe environment. I’d be willing to bet you and I agree with how foolish that is, but I still would like to hear your thoughts.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +4

      I could give you 6 boxing lessons and you would beat the fuck out of him lol

    • @SerpantVenomMC
      @SerpantVenomMC 3 года назад

      @@hard2hurt I'm actually not far from you haha I do Karate up in Charlotte NC and I've been wanting to hit up your place next time the girl and I head to the beach

    • @SerpantVenomMC
      @SerpantVenomMC 3 года назад

      @South Paw I believe his name was Steve Rodgriguez with Foo Dogs Tactical

  • @DrFrankenschtein
    @DrFrankenschtein 3 года назад

    Love LAS concealment. They're one of the few holster manufacturers that support Olight and they make great, high quality products. I've rocked a Saya for two years straight - love it!

  • @magicbeetle2292
    @magicbeetle2292 3 года назад +3

    And this is why I carry I knife for lethal self-defense instead of a gun , I know they're not the best but they work

    • @huntsclan001
      @huntsclan001 3 года назад +1

      Actually, statistically speaking, a knife is one of the most effective weapons. They're quick and can do a decent amount of damage with basically no training.

    • @magicbeetle2292
      @magicbeetle2292 3 года назад

      @@huntsclan001 yeah I know the statistics, and the range of an attack is what has me carrying a knife

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад

      what statistics are you guys talking about lol

    • @magicbeetle2292
      @magicbeetle2292 3 года назад

      @@hard2hurt i heard them from funker tactical but I don't know the actual source, but knife attacks have high serviceability

    • @trevor3788
      @trevor3788 3 года назад

      The speed, ability to close distance quickly, and surprise are what make knives so “effective”.
      But that is thinking of it mostly from an offensive perspective, or a defensive one where it’s in your hand already and you have a “green light” that this person is someone you need to deal with.
      Having them tucked in places in your home is cool.. indoor range I’d take a long blade over almost anything.
      Anyone in your home is a threat.. but outside that they become less ideal.
      Problem with knife as personal carry in public is none of the big advantages of a knife benefit you. You still face speed of deployment/target recognition problem.. it’s got legal issues in that it’s too severely wounding/lethal for many situations. Requires commitment and getting in it to use effectively (but as you said, not tons of skill).

  • @WayFinder42
    @WayFinder42 2 года назад

    This is exactly the concept of randori I was taught in Aikido, you can't try to go for any specific moves off the bat, you can't 'just do this', you have to work through the situation until there's an opportunity to execute, and everything else you're doing is managing the situation in hopes of finding an opportunity. You have to tread water and hold your breath under the big waves before the trough appears and you can get your breath back type of thing. Sometimes the wave is too big and you just don't get that opportunity in time unfortunately, but that's why you train, to give yourself as much opportunity as possible. Survival is a game of probabilities.
    And that final line is exactly the same kind of philosophy I agree with, if we really care about self defense, why are we trying to defeat people? We want to prevent and deescalate situations ideally before they get to this level. Extreme violent responses should be a last resort, not a first... as proven by so many over reactive untrained police unjustly murdering people.

  • @aylmerjohnson4906
    @aylmerjohnson4906 3 года назад +1

    That's exactly what I've been saying in some gun channel, thanks for bringing this subject up...

    • @aylmerjohnson4906
      @aylmerjohnson4906 3 года назад

      Plus I usually keep my knife on the opposite side of my hip incase of such encounter...

  • @platoplombo15
    @platoplombo15 3 года назад

    Aaaand this is why...revolvers. Hard to accidentally take out of battery, will fire with muzzle against an 'object', and provide a one pound bludgeon when empty. During most of your examples, your pistol would not have fired more than once, if that, due to muzzle contact, slide impingement, accidental press of mag release, partial grip ('limp wrist'), etc.

  • @kencoffman7145
    @kencoffman7145 3 года назад +1

    LOVE THIS STUFF!!! Your thought process in real situations is spot on, in my on idiot opinion. Maybe it's time to up the ante with the pepperball gun and rubber balls?? You guys are as nuts as I am, I think it would be a great upgrade

  • @davidpignatore6532
    @davidpignatore6532 3 года назад +1

    Nice job using your knee/shin to break the grips off your wrist. Works great in alot of situations.

  • @AlexKahl
    @AlexKahl 3 года назад +11

    Since carrying is not thinkable here in Germany I am more interested in your Adidas Sneakers :) what model are those?

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 года назад +1

      Are you at least allowed to have pepper spray ?

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 года назад +2

      @Oliver So, all a criminal has to do is bring a friend ?

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 года назад +2

      @Oliver Then explain, please.

    • @bombastikderteutone6858
      @bombastikderteutone6858 3 года назад +1

      @@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y You will not need it , because in Germany nobody "just" (lol) gets assaulted ;-)

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 года назад +1

      @@bombastikderteutone6858 I remember a firefighter getting assaulted by some drunk teens and dying, a few months ago.

  • @alenlutvica8344
    @alenlutvica8344 3 года назад +11

    If aikido guys are messing with you just go for the body!

    • @theultimatemadman1126
      @theultimatemadman1126 3 года назад +2

      Or anything, I mean I’m pretty sure aikido training is worse than no training

  • @johnbroadway7407
    @johnbroadway7407 3 года назад

    you should try to add eye rakes or eye pokes in these situational exercises that is a weapon more reliable than one that is tucked away. Musashi wrote" when you sacrifice your life, you must make fullest use of your weaponry"

  • @thatoneguy454c
    @thatoneguy454c 3 года назад +1

    Not to mention that contact shots have a tendency to cause malfunctions like a mofo. Because either the slide gets pushed out of battery or clothing gets grabbed by the slide after the first shot. Also a handgun has very little chance to cause instant incapacitation, especially in a high adrenaline situation. If homeboy had a knife you would be in serious trouble once he gets in close like that. Empty handed skills are very important. The one who walks away from encounters like that is usually the one most proficient with violence.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад

      I mean... we did mention it sooo...

  • @Lanedar68
    @Lanedar68 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video! This really shows the need to train at all levels. Would love to see you add a knife into the mix as a additional option.

  • @theultimatemadman1126
    @theultimatemadman1126 3 года назад +1

    I noticed that the time you where able to draw your weapon note safely was when you where able to creat distance.

  • @Triplechomending
    @Triplechomending Год назад +1

    6:22 "I would just shoot him" while Mike was currently in the process of being converted into a bowling ball. 11/10

  • @7The7Eagle7
    @7The7Eagle7 3 года назад

    I love seeing videos like this. Too many people won't carry because they train in martial arts, and too many people don't train in martial arts because they carry a gun. And most of the people in those groups just don't train enough lol. Keep up the realistic videos!

  • @troylambert1601
    @troylambert1601 3 года назад +4

    I'm skeptical of appendix carry. The number of fights I've seen end up in the mount makes me think it would be impossible to get to your weapon when you need it.

    • @maxiboii5518
      @maxiboii5518 3 года назад +1

      U get mounted not matter what ur carry position, ur f’ed anyway

    • @Jamoni1
      @Jamoni1 3 года назад +1

      If it's appendix you can shrimp or bridge and get to it. You only have to move his weight. If it's 4 o clock you have to bridge both of you up. Try it.
      Look up Craig Douglas ECQC.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  3 года назад +1

      Lol... yeah see... super simple... hahaha

    • @Jamoni1
      @Jamoni1 3 года назад

      @@hard2hurt if you're responding to me, I didn't say its easy, just said it's possible. :) by which I mean if you're on your back with a dude in mount a gun at 4 o'clock might as well be on Mars.

    • @maxiboii5518
      @maxiboii5518 3 года назад +1

      @@Jamoni1 thats his whole point. Its all possible, easier said than done.

  • @CrypidLore
    @CrypidLore 3 года назад +3

    You forgot the key to self defense with a firearm, you have to call time-out to buy yourself the time to get your gun, works with bears and boars if they charge you.

  • @zacharywalker1581
    @zacharywalker1581 3 года назад +1

    Another thing that is really scary about this is that most of those "shots" wouldn't even have gone off because when a glock (or any tilting lock semi-auto's for that matter) is barrel stuffed into someone like that, the gun isnt in battery and wont go bang when you want it to. Actually one of the few big advantages of revolvers is this scenario.

  • @rhiannonmcdaniel2313
    @rhiannonmcdaniel2313 3 года назад

    Also, the fight doesn't just stop when a shot lands. If you look at security footage and police cams, the attacker often keeps fighting after being shot.
    So not only do you have to successfully shot them, you also have to stop them from taking you gun and shooting you in turn. All the while making sure that no passerby get shot/almost shot or you'll be criminally charged for that too, not to mention civil lawsuits.

  • @beccas2065
    @beccas2065 3 года назад

    That holster looks amazing!! Have you ever tested a Raw Dog Tactical Holster? You will not be disappointed. It’s so comfortable, you don’t know you are wearing it and it’s very hard for someone else to disarm you, when under attack, but easy for you quick draw. They make IWB and OWB holsters with adjustable retention that fit like a glove. I love your videos and that you test different equipment in real-life scenarios and show how to confront various threats. Keep up the great work!!

  • @SRTTren
    @SRTTren 3 года назад +1

    I love how mike is always on the edge of murder when teaching self defense but you gotta do what you gotta do

  • @yanyanzhang5813
    @yanyanzhang5813 3 года назад +1

    Last time I was watching streetbeefs, and this dude got mounted, and someone in the crowd screamed “STAND UP, JUST STAND UP” and I spit out water.

  • @RyanWright
    @RyanWright 2 года назад +1

    this video GREATLY illustrates why the idea of carrying a firearm for self defense but NOT having a round in the chamber is completely ludicrous. As hard as it was in each of these for you to get the firearm into action and clear, imagine if you had to do that AND rack the slide before you could use it effectively...

  • @Cabbolf
    @Cabbolf 3 года назад

    This is one of the most important videos y'all have done. People really need to think about this stuff.

  • @justinumel1329
    @justinumel1329 3 года назад +1

    Lol! Think this is my favorite H2H videos this far. Funny and informative. Classic!

  • @ninobrown9600
    @ninobrown9600 3 года назад

    Great self defense training module.

  • @bob67497
    @bob67497 Год назад

    "If you're so worried about being judged by 12 instead of carried by 6, why wouldn't you do neither?" BRO this is SUCH a big thing that those dudes miss out on and just don't fuckin understand. I imagine that outside of military and cops, most people saying that have never had a weapon pulled on them. I've had a blade pulled on me, and I've had a gun pulled on me, and boy, even tho I could MAYBE have won that exchange with the gun, and could EASILY have won the exchange with the drunk asshole with a straight razor when I was packing a 13 inch combat knife, I just left. Neither scenario caused me to need to take anyone's life, and I was able to preserve myself without losing anything. Those experiences taught me more about how life really works than ANYTHING anyone's ever told me, or any other experiences I've ever had. You don't have to take the direct path, right through danger just because it's got more bravado to it.
    There's a saying, "There are old assassins, and there are bold assassins, but there are no old, bold assassins." And my experiences with violence have taught me that if it's a real fight I'm getting into, it better not be because I'm feeling bold, it should be because either I won't get to live to be old if I don't fight, or I won't be able to live with myself if I live to be old but don't fight here.

  • @jamesw713
    @jamesw713 3 года назад +2

    I wear my firearm on my strong side and a fixed blade knife in my left front pocket. When approached, I usually have my hand on the handle of my knife. It will be my first close-range defensive weapon to bring into play.

    • @andrzejsobanski6752
      @andrzejsobanski6752 3 года назад +2

      Sounds good. Upon seeing a knife, attacker will either focus his attention on it, or start making much needed distance between you. Just be sure you can draw it fast with your left.

    • @jamesw713
      @jamesw713 3 года назад

      @@andrzejsobanski6752, I always carry it in the same pocket with keys attached to the sheath. Keys keep the sheath in the pocket and the edge comes out quick and free every time. And, it is easy to partially draw/break the tension on the sheath without attracting attention, while the knife is still concealed.

    • @andrzejsobanski6752
      @andrzejsobanski6752 3 года назад

      @@jamesw713 I see, so that's what people not wearing long coats on their shoulders do.

  • @KEVVIE37
    @KEVVIE37 3 года назад +1

    Wow DOPE VIDEO!!! Thx for the info.👍

  • @bob67497
    @bob67497 Год назад

    LOL I feel like you embody that bit from American Dad where he tells his son, "There's only one thing you need to know about karate- guns beat karate every time." but like, you still enjoy punching stuff LOL it's great to see

  • @CancerArpegius
    @CancerArpegius 3 года назад +1

    3:46 he was in the perfect condition to do an oil check

  • @theunboxed878
    @theunboxed878 3 года назад +1

    7:36 thats alot of weight aint it 😭😭😭😂😂😂

  • @jadesidhe2634
    @jadesidhe2634 3 года назад

    All those shots into the air reminds me of the song "cow patti". "Patti and the killer missed eachother but they shot that town to hell"

  • @FoxInTheBasement
    @FoxInTheBasement 3 года назад

    This video plus the taser video are so eye opening. As important to the martial arts/ self-defense community as 'MMA vs Aikido'.

  • @greoricm771
    @greoricm771 3 года назад

    This area is frankly my wheel house doing combatives with the SQT students at Naval Special Warfare during my enlistment. (I had a wrestling and BJJ background so they kept me around as the opfor). The general principle here is spot on. Some of the movements, while natural, aren't the best. The biggest one is pressing the gun out to "chase the target". Frankly that's how you 1) jam the gun by getting it out of battery, and worse 2) start slinging rounds in space you don't want them going. Position over submission was touched on, but not hammered home. Once you have the position then draw and keep the same position before you shoot "thumb pectoral index" is what the kids say these days, its rather effective... as well as legally prudent.

  • @Drainagepipe
    @Drainagepipe 3 года назад

    Another thing to consider I noticed. Several of the shots Mike gets off are driven into Cliff or Nate (I think?). The dummy gun he's using is a glock model. Hard to know, but several of those shots might not have gone off due to taking the gun out of battery. Or if the first shot did get off, now the gun has a malfunction to clear, which would be another nightmare.

  • @jamestheeggplant5446
    @jamestheeggplant5446 3 года назад

    I don’t always agree with this Chanel, but it actually pretty good advice. coming from someone who has gone threw the legal Gantlet for self defense.

  • @terryharris1291
    @terryharris1291 2 года назад

    I have worn jeans and street clothes for training in since 1996,even when training with kettle bells and sandbags I train in jeans and boots.Always wear a belt as well.