Quick tips for anyone new considering trying DAoC. 1 Casters are difficult if you come from modern MMOs. Anything attacking you will stop any spellcasting for 3 seconds, use quick cast, and KITE KITE KITE in pvp. if a melee gets on you you become a liability. 2 Don't be discouraged if you have trouble in RvR. These freeshards are like the world series of DAoC, there are some EXTREMELY good players, esp some of the EU guys. 3 Get used to using face and stick, I bind them to F and Shift+f. 4 Push through the learning phase. The game feels clunky at first, but once you learn it you'll realize how mechanically high the skill cap is for this game. Your time will be rewarded. 5 Some classes like sorc, mins, healer, or any of the major CC classes have an extremely high skill floor just to be semi-functional on, start with something easy like a melee class or imo the best starter class, the skald. Skald has an amazing toolkit with insta damage,snare,and single target crowd control. This game is unrivaled when it comes to pvp. Take your time and enjoy the learning experience. Once you experience rvr with a competent group on comms you'll be hooked for life
Well for a completely new player I would have given the exact opposite advice ;-). Despite I haven't played for years I think the mechanics still are the same as 5 years ago on Ywain. New players learn the core game mechanics in PvE first and melee (tank) classes (without a group and/or healer) have enormous downtimes by healing themself. Tanks also deal "quite" less damage compared to caster classes. So they can not chainkill tons of npcs. Melee (tank) classes will be cannon fodder in RvR in the beginning because they can not interrupt at a distance and need to get in melee range to actually cause damage. I would recommend therefore a pet-casterclass like Cabalist or Necromancer for Albion (Theurgist and Sorcerer are more difficult!), Enchanter or Animist for Hibernia or Spiritmaster or Bonedancer for Midgard. These are the classes with the easiest progress in PvE and they also can perform really good in RvR once you know how to play them. Especially classes like the Necromaner or Bonedancer are really predestined for new players. They also have the chance to farm gold/platin and items in a very short period of time. With this gold you can equip new characters more quickly, leveling up crafting skills, buy a nice house and so on. If you really want to play a melee character you should definitly take a hybrid class like Paladin/Reaver (Albion), Thane/Skald (Midgard) or Champion/Vampiir (Hibernia) because their magic component like chants, lifeleech, damage casts, healing, crowd control or debuff spells help a lot while learning the mechanics of the game. For completely new players I wouldn't recommend any healing, buffing, stealth, full tank, off tank, support or crowd control classes in the beginning. They all can progress solo to a certain extend but it's much slower and complicated than any of the mentioned pet-classes. Casters with pets are easy mode in PvE and can also do a good job in RvR.
@@Indydayagreed 100% Also it is easier to learn the mechanics of casters than to learn how to strafe properly to land side styles which is simply vital for light and hybrid tanks and assassins.
So glad to see video made on this game. I played at release and for straight 16 years there after. I truly love this masterpiece! Thanks for trying to keep it alive
The Eden server (you may already know this) is a private server jam packed with people playing, it's a true new beginning for DAoC and it's free if you want to relive the good ole days
@@TheNathanNAPALM I found it today and just in time to enjoy a new fresh server in 2023 with over 200 players on a Friday evening, that blows away the live server. I just rolled a troll berzerker. Love that class
I've been playing DAOC EDEN since beta and it is by far the absolute best private shard that has been made. Fantastic questing for easy leveling. Easy ways to level in battlegrounds and find groups. They've done a real good job with this one. The only thing I don't like much are New Frontiers but I can get over it.
Watched this for entertainment while I ate my pot pie. Im a DAoC vet from pre Atlantis. This video was very informative for those that never played it, as well as fun to watch. Back then my main was an inconnu reaver, in eden my main is an inconnu necromancer.
Old DAOC vet from the Nimue Server back in the day. Played for 12 plus years. Nice to see this GEM of a game is alive and well. I was watching vids about EDEN on opening night. Thousands of players returning. The BG'S had damn near 1k players on each realm. I never seen anything like it. Made me very happy and I will be returning. DAOC has such a devoted fan base. A mid level PC can run it with ease because the graphics are 20 years old. You can have hughe RVR fights with all those spell effects going off and your system wont crash or lock up. So who cares if the graphics arent the latest and best. All that action and you dont have to spend 5k on a top end gaming rig. A decent ISP speed is alk yiu need for TONS of enjoyment hours. TOA was too much of a grind. Time to jumo back into game. Such great memories.
Not entirely sure how the HELL this ended up in my queue but I must say VERY nice job production wise. I dicked around with DAOC years ago, beginning my MMO journey in '07 with runescape and WOW , then EVE and a few others, dipping out for the most part 5-6 years ago. Messed around a bit on the Uthgard shard YEARS ago and found a lot about the game interesting and held up but had a hard time getting used to how much slower characters moved vs WOW and other games not all that much newer, among other things. As you say though, if NOTHING else the RVRVR deal is one of a kind, and Im amazed there's very little by way of gripes historically or today about balance what with the utterly nauseating amount of choice both race and class wise, where the former actually have a modicum of gameplay relevance. Maybe I'll come visit this Eden server you mention....
Bainshee isn't the only gender locked class. Valk is too. I wish this video came out before last march, would have helped me as a new player. Didn't even know about the Eden server till now. To start out on the co-op server for new players, is also probably best, as the pvp mindset with folks mows over new players being able to learn and navigate inside the game. EC accounts are frowned on bigly, everyone committed to playing will apply pressure to upgrade your account, especially if a guild adopts any of your characters in. Folks with more game experience definitely are helpful to learn from, but not everyone has patience to assist new players.
This is the 1st game I Ever played! I would sit on my dads lap and he would help me Eventually he built me a little computer of my own, and one of his guildmates handed down one of their accounts (mainly so the guild could keep active access to their max lvl characters lol) I even got the hang of being a Partys healer! Would go and support in the battlegrounds, Troll Shaman focused on healing and some crowd control Honestly i get a little misty eyed thinking about back then 💜 Over the years Dad and I have returned a few times, Him more than I, but guess who's back this time! lol (without the max lvl account cuz it's been too long to easily remember)
Playing Eden as well and overall it is solid. Here are some things to note that I have noticed: Theurg Ice Pets do a lot of damage at lower levels... I mean... A lot, as in around level 18ish the ice pet hits for 170 delve or so which equals a level 50's Direct Damage on Average! Cabalists Ruby Simulacrim does about the same damage. Necromancer is really solid, don't have to wait for pet swings for shade casts to go off anymore, and quick cast is anytime as well instead of the next pet swing. The Realm Buffers seem to give Yellow Buffs, thus making classes that have buffs more solid because base buffs will at least be purple followed by yellow spec by default. I have to learn more but I'm still thinking on what character to play, either maybe Deathsight Necro or Cave Shaman I don't know lol.
Over 20 years old and still going. The best PvP experiences ever in many people's opinion, over 36 different classes I believe (depending on Live versus Freeshard etc). Well worth checking out. He didn't touch on it but just because you picked on realm to start on that doesn't mean you can't play on other realms as well, there is a timer before you can log in to a different realm (to lessen cross realm cheating in PvP), you do get an experience bonus for sticking on one realm that builds the longer you stay playing on that specific realm
I used to main an inconnu necromancer on merlin, still haven't figured out how to play the new one since all the changes occurred to it's playstyle a few years ago. Have since been enjoy a Shar vamp, Inc reaver, and Briton Paly
been too long to remember WHAT server i ran, specially since i ran multiple servers to try out EACH realm... my main though was a Sylvan Valewalker, Lvl 50 with 2 artifacts being leveled up.. would be nice to play again.. still have my original game disks too...
@@michaeldpa1333 i've tried the Eden server.. and i would LOVE to level TOA arti's... just sayin... tempted to run MY own server... need a second machine first though...
Paladin a good class? Needed in groups? Can tank well? How’s it in high end max lvl? Would love to play but don’t want to sink 6 months into a class that isn’t good or needed
They recently got a 15 million dollar investment, so I believe it will still come out but I fear without all the things that makes DAoC awesome, it could suffer
There is the free shard Eden. Look it up. Lots of people in all realms but has slowed a bit during Diablo 4 and summer. Most of us are there if not on live servers
It's included, but here is some extra for you : #1 Don't take a bath #2 Hug trees #3 Make lots of fungus creatures in the most annoying places #4 Run away every time in danger #5 Lose most of the time #6 Tired of losing? Start back at #1
Hold on hold on hold on. Chanter is not main CC for hib, bard is. And chanter doesn't even have mezz. Light eld has an aoe mezz but bard is still main CC due to its setup.
Was good. Now just a merchant based mmo. I mean I get needing to earn money but you charge monthly for a 20 yr old game that hasn’t had a genuine expansion since like 2009. I played from release until 2010. Every day. Without miss. Now I just go back ever so often, for nostalgia sake. Mess around for a month and leave. Every class has been turned into vanilla copies of the opposing realms equal. Took away classes special features and replaced them with redundant copies of spells the class already had. That’s just flat out laziness and/or incompetence. Take the light tanks / dps for example. Berserker, blademaster, mercenary. Please explain to me why the berserkers class ability is 16% damage increase for 20 second duration. 7minute reuse timer. Blademaster is 15% damage increase WITH 10% accuracy bonus WITH an immunity to being critical hit buff. 30second duration. 7min reuse timer. Mercenary is a 100% proc rate buff for a 30% fumble debuff on enemy with a proc to reduce casting / archery range as well. 30second duration. 7min reuse timer. That doesn’t strike anyone as a bit… unbalanced lol. And instead of reworking them, let’s rework all their weapon styles to mirror each other. That’ll balance em out. Now cmon. You can completely gut the combat styles to make them all have essentially the same thing instead of balancing out the class abilities? I mean, I could go on and on and on. Just frustrates me how much a great game can be ruined. My problem I guess.
If you want to play with other adults who actually have old school experience, teamwork, respect, etc. Eden is not the place. It's just a bunch of chat trolling kids. There's no unreal 5 like advertised. it's basic and SI, that's it. No other expansions. And because of a couple of minor changes they've made, yer a total noob, no matter if you've played for 20+ years. You'll be trolled by kids if you dare share any opinions... just go back to live and recover your old toons and have a good time with fellows.
Were you trying to make this video as obnoxious and seizure inducing as possible with all of this super zoomed in game play with blue flames and flashy colorful pop up writing on top? Damn..
Quick tips for anyone new considering trying DAoC.
1 Casters are difficult if you come from modern MMOs. Anything attacking you will stop any spellcasting for 3 seconds, use quick cast, and KITE KITE KITE in pvp. if a melee gets on you you become a liability.
2 Don't be discouraged if you have trouble in RvR. These freeshards are like the world series of DAoC, there are some EXTREMELY good players, esp some of the EU guys.
3 Get used to using face and stick, I bind them to F and Shift+f.
4 Push through the learning phase. The game feels clunky at first, but once you learn it you'll realize how mechanically high the skill cap is for this game. Your time will be rewarded.
5 Some classes like sorc, mins, healer, or any of the major CC classes have an extremely high skill floor just to be semi-functional on, start with something easy like a melee class or imo the best starter class, the skald. Skald has an amazing toolkit with insta damage,snare,and single target crowd control.
This game is unrivaled when it comes to pvp. Take your time and enjoy the learning experience. Once you experience rvr with a competent group on comms you'll be hooked for life
Well for a completely new player I would have given the exact opposite advice ;-). Despite I haven't played for years I think the mechanics still are the same as 5 years ago on Ywain. New players learn the core game mechanics in PvE first and melee (tank) classes (without a group and/or healer) have enormous downtimes by healing themself.
Tanks also deal "quite" less damage compared to caster classes. So they can not chainkill tons of npcs. Melee (tank) classes will be cannon fodder in RvR in the beginning because they can not interrupt at a distance and need to get in melee range to actually cause damage.
I would recommend therefore a pet-casterclass like Cabalist or Necromancer for Albion (Theurgist and Sorcerer are more difficult!), Enchanter or Animist for Hibernia or Spiritmaster or Bonedancer for Midgard.
These are the classes with the easiest progress in PvE and they also can perform really good in RvR once you know how to play them. Especially classes like the Necromaner or Bonedancer are really predestined for new players. They also have the chance to farm gold/platin and items in a very short period of time. With this gold you can equip new characters more quickly, leveling up crafting skills, buy a nice house and so on.
If you really want to play a melee character you should definitly take a hybrid class like Paladin/Reaver (Albion), Thane/Skald (Midgard) or Champion/Vampiir (Hibernia) because their magic component like chants, lifeleech, damage casts, healing, crowd control or debuff spells help a lot while learning the mechanics of the game.
For completely new players I wouldn't recommend any healing, buffing, stealth, full tank, off tank, support or crowd control classes in the beginning. They all can progress solo to a certain extend but it's much slower and complicated than any of the mentioned pet-classes. Casters with pets are easy mode in PvE and can also do a good job in RvR.
Never played a shard but played SI until about three years ago. I an curious as to the comparison and surely miss my bg guys
@@Indydayagreed 100%
Also it is easier to learn the mechanics of casters than to learn how to strafe properly to land side styles which is simply vital for light and hybrid tanks and assassins.
You've outdone yourself on this vid Nathan. Very well done and informative. Keep it up and looking forward to more of these for many other mmorpgs.
Thank you!
Someone played too much EverQuest. The Enchanter is NOT the primary crowd control class of Hibernia. The Bard is. Nice video.
Thank you for clarification Thomas
So glad to see video made on this game. I played at release and for straight 16 years there after. I truly love this masterpiece! Thanks for trying to keep it alive
The Eden server (you may already know this) is a private server jam packed with people playing, it's a true new beginning for DAoC and it's free if you want to relive the good ole days
@@TheNathanNAPALM I found it today and just in time to enjoy a new fresh server in 2023 with over 200 players on a Friday evening, that blows away the live server. I just rolled a troll berzerker. Love that class
I've been playing DAOC EDEN since beta and it is by far the absolute best private shard that has been made. Fantastic questing for easy leveling. Easy ways to level in battlegrounds and find groups. They've done a real good job with this one. The only thing I don't like much are New Frontiers but I can get over it.
Yeah I wish SOMEBODY would do old frontiers
Agreed best freeshard yet!
Watched this for entertainment while I ate my pot pie. Im a DAoC vet from pre Atlantis. This video was very informative for those that never played it, as well as fun to watch.
Back then my main was an inconnu reaver, in eden my main is an inconnu necromancer.
Old DAOC vet from the Nimue Server back in the day. Played for 12 plus years. Nice to see this GEM of a game is alive and well. I was watching vids about EDEN on opening night. Thousands of players returning. The BG'S had damn near 1k players on each realm. I never seen anything like it. Made me very happy and I will be returning. DAOC has such a devoted fan base. A mid level PC can run it with ease because the graphics are 20 years old. You can have hughe RVR fights with all those spell effects going off and your system wont crash or lock up. So who cares if the graphics arent the latest and best. All that action and you dont have to spend 5k on a top end gaming rig. A decent ISP speed is alk yiu need for TONS of enjoyment hours. TOA was too much of a grind. Time to jumo back into game. Such great memories.
Man I miss playing. It's been years since I played on Merlin. Had some great 8v8 battles back in the day!
as a daoc pvp vid maker /golfclap to you sir! well done! sending this to every friend ive been trying to get into daoc for 20 yrs :D
Much appreciated! I’m far from a pro at DAoC but I played it like a fiend back in the early 2000s, still the best PvP in MMOs to date. Masterpiece!
Not entirely sure how the HELL this ended up in my queue but I must say VERY nice job production wise. I dicked around with DAOC years ago, beginning my MMO journey in '07 with runescape and WOW , then EVE and a few others, dipping out for the most part 5-6 years ago. Messed around a bit on the Uthgard shard YEARS ago and found a lot about the game interesting and held up but had a hard time getting used to how much slower characters moved vs WOW and other games not all that much newer, among other things. As you say though, if NOTHING else the RVRVR deal is one of a kind, and Im amazed there's very little by way of gripes historically or today about balance what with the utterly nauseating amount of choice both race and class wise, where the former actually have a modicum of gameplay relevance. Maybe I'll come visit this Eden server you mention....
Bainshee isn't the only gender locked class. Valk is too. I wish this video came out before last march, would have helped me as a new player. Didn't even know about the Eden server till now. To start out on the co-op server for new players, is also probably best, as the pvp mindset with folks mows over new players being able to learn and navigate inside the game. EC accounts are frowned on bigly, everyone committed to playing will apply pressure to upgrade your account, especially if a guild adopts any of your characters in. Folks with more game experience definitely are helpful to learn from, but not everyone has patience to assist new players.
Really good video ! Shared with my pals that aren't familiar in the game but interested!
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you so much! Grew up watching my dad play this and wanted to try it out
Going to be a great time!
Hyped to play it again in this form! One of the few open world sandboxes that just doesnt exist in the same form anymore.
just installed the game and rolled a Troll Thane and a Kobold Savage! gonna see which one i enjoy more.
I miss Daoc so much!
You coming to play with all the DAoC fans on Eden?
I miss it so much too
Same 😢
Played this game when it came out. Love it! Miss it! So great!
This is the 1st game I Ever played!
I would sit on my dads lap and he would help me
Eventually he built me a little computer of my own, and one of his guildmates handed down one of their accounts (mainly so the guild could keep active access to their max lvl characters lol)
I even got the hang of being a Partys healer! Would go and support in the battlegrounds, Troll Shaman focused on healing and some crowd control
Honestly i get a little misty eyed thinking about back then 💜 Over the years Dad and I have returned a few times, Him more than I, but guess who's back this time! lol (without the max lvl account cuz it's been too long to easily remember)
Love Eden, can't wait for S2!!
Midgard Rulez, Albion Drools!!!!!
Playing Eden as well and overall it is solid. Here are some things to note that I have noticed:
Theurg Ice Pets do a lot of damage at lower levels... I mean... A lot, as in around level 18ish the ice pet hits for 170 delve or so which equals a level 50's Direct Damage on Average! Cabalists Ruby Simulacrim does about the same damage.
Necromancer is really solid, don't have to wait for pet swings for shade casts to go off anymore, and quick cast is anytime as well instead of the next pet swing.
The Realm Buffers seem to give Yellow Buffs, thus making classes that have buffs more solid because base buffs will at least be purple followed by yellow spec by default.
I have to learn more but I'm still thinking on what character to play, either maybe Deathsight Necro or Cave Shaman I don't know lol.
Wow this game looks awesome 😳
It absolutely is!
Over 20 years old and still going. The best PvP experiences ever in many people's opinion, over 36 different classes I believe (depending on Live versus Freeshard etc). Well worth checking out. He didn't touch on it but just because you picked on realm to start on that doesn't mean you can't play on other realms as well, there is a timer before you can log in to a different realm (to lessen cross realm cheating in PvP), you do get an experience bonus for sticking on one realm that builds the longer you stay playing on that specific realm
I used to main an inconnu necromancer on merlin, still haven't figured out how to play the new one since all the changes occurred to it's playstyle a few years ago. Have since been enjoy a Shar vamp, Inc reaver, and Briton Paly
tanks, this gona be super useful, starting to play now
Have fun!
Great vid and good overview. A bit too many visual effects though 😅
If im not mistaken, valk is also gender locked but i mostly play Albion and maybe Hibernia of i need a change of scenery lol
been too long to remember WHAT server i ran, specially since i ran multiple servers to try out EACH realm... my main though was a Sylvan Valewalker, Lvl 50 with 2 artifacts being leveled up.. would be nice to play again.. still have my original game disks too...
Try the EDEN Server. Free download and no monthly fee's ... NO TOA Artifacts to level.
@@michaeldpa1333 i've tried the Eden server.. and i would LOVE to level TOA arti's... just sayin... tempted to run MY own server... need a second machine first though...
8:20 u could stop the video here and i would have learned enough to be happy very good vid thanks
I just got my friar to 50, but my friend and I plan on playing mid mostly. I will look for you guild! lol
Please update for Season 2!!
Paladin a good class? Needed in groups? Can tank well? How’s it in high end max lvl? Would love to play but don’t want to sink 6 months into a class that isn’t good or needed
Armsman and Paladin are pretty what n what for tanking, both are accepted and valuable, Paladin gets an edge imo due to being able to endurance regen
My all time favorite pvp/rvr game....is this game dead nowadays? Last time I get on, it was tough to play...that was years ago though.
Valk is female only also
Drasticle Dread are you there
So is PvP the end game of DAooC?
Do I have to 15$/mo just to see other classes???because I'm only seeing like half the classes your are mentioning for each realm
Yes, but the Eden server we are all going to play on after Dec 10th is a free private server
the legend/story of melleri still around?
Do you think will ever see Camelot Unchained come to life?
They recently got a 15 million dollar investment, so I believe it will still come out but I fear without all the things that makes DAoC awesome, it could suffer
What is the best server to play on as a returning player to get into everything?
There is the free shard Eden. Look it up. Lots of people in all realms but has slowed a bit during Diablo 4 and summer. Most of us are there if not on live servers
Vote Hibernia in the community tab. Rise sons of the Green!!!
Nathan can you do a macro making tutorial? I’m playing a shaman and have so many buffs…
Releasing Hibernia newbie guide soon?
It's included, but here is some extra for you :
#1 Don't take a bath
#2 Hug trees
#3 Make lots of fungus creatures in the most annoying places
#4 Run away every time in danger
#5 Lose most of the time
#6 Tired of losing? Start back at #1
@@TheNathanNAPALM you forgot whine about how OP Mid is
Oh yeah that goes for Albs too
Where do I download the game? And can you play it on a MacBook Pro?
When will the new official server start?
Not sure yet
Hold on hold on hold on. Chanter is not main CC for hib, bard is. And chanter doesn't even have mezz. Light eld has an aoe mezz but bard is still main CC due to its setup.
Yeah my mistake, got mixed up with EQ
Hate to be that one guy but valks are gender locked as well, great video though Nathan
What?!
Is Eden going good now or no?
Eden is doing very well. Good population.
DAoC still exists?
Sure does and a new private server that is packed full of people launching on Dec 10th join us!!
Ywain is the "real" DAOC ... private Servers come and go, but the real DAOC is still here to stay :)
I hear there shall come a new classic server from broadsword, is it true?
Hunters cant charm animals theu can summon a pet though
do ppl still play Eden?
Yes pop took a small hit but still 1500-1700 or so every time I’ve checked
Was good. Now just a merchant based mmo. I mean I get needing to earn money but you charge monthly for a 20 yr old game that hasn’t had a genuine expansion since like 2009.
I played from release until 2010. Every day. Without miss.
Now I just go back ever so often, for nostalgia sake. Mess around for a month and leave.
Every class has been turned into vanilla copies of the opposing realms equal. Took away classes special features and replaced them with redundant copies of spells the class already had. That’s just flat out laziness and/or incompetence.
Take the light tanks / dps for example. Berserker, blademaster, mercenary.
Please explain to me why the berserkers class ability is 16% damage increase for 20 second duration. 7minute reuse timer.
Blademaster is 15% damage increase WITH 10% accuracy bonus WITH an immunity to being critical hit buff. 30second duration. 7min reuse timer.
Mercenary is a 100% proc rate buff for a 30% fumble debuff on enemy with a proc to reduce casting / archery range as well. 30second duration. 7min reuse timer.
That doesn’t strike anyone as a bit… unbalanced lol. And instead of reworking them, let’s rework all their weapon styles to mirror each other. That’ll balance em out.
Now cmon. You can completely gut the combat styles to make them all have essentially the same thing instead of balancing out the class abilities?
I mean, I could go on and on and on.
Just frustrates me how much a great game can be ruined. My problem I guess.
uhm, what ?
If you want to play with other adults who actually have old school experience, teamwork, respect, etc. Eden is not the place. It's just a bunch of chat trolling kids. There's no unreal 5 like advertised. it's basic and SI, that's it. No other expansions. And because of a couple of minor changes they've made, yer a total noob, no matter if you've played for 20+ years. You'll be trolled by kids if you dare share any opinions... just go back to live and recover your old toons and have a good time with fellows.
Were you trying to make this video as obnoxious and seizure inducing as possible with all of this super zoomed in game play with blue flames and flashy colorful pop up writing on top? Damn..
Where is your video? Think you can do better? This video has been liked by many, I can't please everybody nor do I try
this game is racist humans r 1 race not a bunch of separate 1s what's wrong with the devs
Umm, no, there is a wide variety of humans across all 3 realms.
@@TheNathanNAPALM lol just trooling