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What's funny is if you go to that article now, its had the title changed from 12 iconic American brands to 9. And there's not a single source listed anywhere in the article. That news site looks like an AI generated click bait farm.
Came to comment this. Keep the custom shop stuff in the US, move the standards to Japan or Korea. Assuming they drop the damn price along with it (they won't) their product would move a lot more.
@@KnapfordMaster98do me a favor and look at what a current Jackson made in Japan model is going for lol. I’ll give you a hint. (It’s more than the most expensive Gibson Les Paul Standard) I don’t think a Gibson made in Japan would go for less than that.
The ONLY reason left to buy Gibson is that they're still made in the USA (I'm British). I want to own the same instruments that I saw my British and American heroes play on TOTP and MTV during the 70s & 80s. I want a little piece of Nashville, not Beijing!
@@ChrisShortyAllen😂 it’s not a competition People work hard for the things they want and they want those things to meet their expectations. You pooping on their aspirations doesn’t make you superior
When comparing prices in Australia to the USA, you need to factor shipping costs too. So your conversion of $2,333.66 wouldn't be far off the $1,999 Sweetwater price. We get screwed over twice in Australia; shit currency conversion and exuberant shipping costs...
@@infinidominion It's in the ballpark, although it's hard to compare as the Japanese sellers sometimes factor shipping into the price. Their prices can vary wildly from seller to seller. You think you've found an amazing deal until you click on shipping and see they want $400 for it.
To be fair shipping costs are really weird and hard to judge final cost by... Like the UK has the most expensive shipping in Europe to the US when they are closer to the USA and don't have to travcel far by land... Instead of Sweden which has insanely cheap and fast shipping despite thye most round a bout route you can take... Like going south to central central Europe then west to the channel then south though tge channel to the US... Also shipping product like this has never been an iisue only when your company is small and youi don't ship somewhere often and don't want the costomer to eat the whole cost of shipping... Which for all the issues the auromoblie industry has with multi region car sales... shipping isn't one of them as the shipping cost isn't that big of cost if you already made a car able to sold new in that region... Like the Asian companies mostly make theor cars in their major region and only openb factories in regions that have a very unqie and popular model.... So yeah Gibson won't caree about shipping cost and if it did you would pay for iy not them.
I own 4 les Paul customs, 2 60s standards, 2 explorers, 2 j45s, a les Paul studio, an es335, a recent made 63 les Paul custom and a nonreverse thunderbird. The day they’re no longer made in the USA I’ll never buy another.
I work for Guitar Center, that eclipse strat was part of an exclusive GC VIP event before it actually dropped. In person you really get to appreciate what they were trying to do, he wasn't kidding about the flaming on the neck too, the one that was shipped to our store was literally insane. A super cool piece, go check it out if you haven't.
I've been saying this is what the grossly overpriced Epiphonies were about, along with allowing them the Gibson headstock. Conditioning people to accept import Gibsons across the line with the only USA made Gibsons being Custom Shop.
Epiphone already shifted production of some models to the Samick factory in Indonesia. I have an Epiphone Joe Pass model made in Indonesia and the fit and finish is awesome.
Gibson could have Mexico or Japanese made like Fender and I don’t think people would hate on that as much. One thing is for sure, anything made outside of the US better be significantly cheaper…
That looks like a purposely planted thing to denote a genuine article. Would imagine counterfeiters wouldn't notice that and put both dots on, unknowingly instantly giving it away
Never under-estimate what a corporate suit will do when they need to hit a profit margin and don't truly understand the community. They've already been having QA issues that aren't common outside of Gibson.
Correct. A japanese made ibanez prestige hardtail will be delivered to you in perfect condition with ZERO factory issues, better playability and feel and much less money.
Gibson should be made in the Cort factory. They'd be better quality. And could offer better features in production models like stainless steel frets and locking tuners.
TBH, I don't care where a guitar is made. You can make a great guitar anywhere given the same woods, hardware, electronics, skilled workers, and attention to detail/consistency.
I have been saying for a while that I believe there will be a time , sadly in the near future that a portion of Gibson production will move abroad . Wouldn’t be surprised if anything below standard goes that way. Think probably more fender will go this way too. It’s sad but for survival most companies have had to tread this path.
I think so too. I also think that the stuff that's moved out of the US will be Epiphone badged. So for example, the tributes and studios will be Epiphone models and be missing from gibson's catalog. This protects the gibson brand.
I really doubt they would stop making guitars in the US, but if they did that is a great reason to pick up a Heritage. Keeping the history of the Parsons Street factory alive, and hopefully they get the old smokestack back up someday.
I've heard the same nonsense about another major American manufacturer in another product market for the last five years. Nothing has changed except that they certain factories were closed and consolidated to existing locatolion elsewhere in the USA.
For the right price I'd buy a non American Gibson. But why would Gibson do this after investing so much into Epiphone? A non American Gibson would kill Epiphone nearly overnight.
You can already get pro-level Gibsons for lower real cost than what they went for back in Da Golden Age, and to move production out of the country in today's political climate would be a case of towering bad sense. The tariffs we can expect will make imports considerably more expensive, perhaps to the point that Chinese Epiphone prices will be in Gibson USA territory and the (hopefully hypothetical) Indonesian Gibsons will be above that. Peavey's reputation took a hit when Hartley took production to the People's Republic, and should make for a word-to-the-wise moment for Gibson.
I could see them moving some of their "lesser" models to non-US factories, like say Studios for example, but not abandoning US production altogether. Fender has their MIM line with actual Fender branding & I don't think it's destroyed their brand.
Buying a Gibson not made in the USA is like buying a fake Rolex. Something you buy so you can pretend you own a Gibson. Foreign manufactured guitars with brands from American companies seem like licensed knock offs, especially the low end guitars made in factories that make knock offs of multiple brands. Gibson and Rickenbacker are the only two big American guitar brands I know of that haven’t sold out yet. Gibson is starting to edge towards it now that they’re using the Gibson headstock profile on Epiphone Les Pauls so in the end Rickenbacker may stand alone. I hope not.
I'm already dumping my Gibson Custom Shop guitars to buy a couple pre CBS Telecasters... After 15 years of having a dozen CS Les Pauls I realize I grab my old Norlins when I want to play a LP
Am I the only one SCREAMING for a Jimmy Page Epiphone model? Not just the double neck, but I’d LOVE to see an Epiphone #1 or #2 Les Paul! As far as Gibson being made overseas, I really can’t see it, but Fender, PRS, Gretsch & everybody else, except for Rickenbacker does it. They would still have to do Custom shop stuff over here. And YES! Do an episode on the blue LP Supreme!
Austin, on the Gibson process YT series of videos it states that all guitars go through the Plek machine yet we see Sweetwater offering Plek pro for $299 can you say what the difference is?
I think they would continue to build the standard and up models in the USA, but I could see them moving studios to the cort factory in Indonesia and have a lower tier Gibson. Kind of like what PRS does with their SE models.
I’ve played an Epi LP that I got in ‘94. After I got done doing what I wanted to it, I gigged the crap out of it. It needs a refret now, and nobody around here does it, so I needed a new LP. I looked around at new epis, and there is no way in hell I would spend a grand on a Chinese made guitar. So I bought a Gibson studio. It’s amazing, pleked, plays like a dream, and made in good old USA. It was worth the extra money for me. If gibson moves out of country, it would ruin their brand.
I have exclusively played hardtail Stratocasters for decades, & I do believe that this ugly painted reverse sunburst limited HSS model, is the first hardtail to ever feature the contoured neck heel…🎸
I had to restring a JP Double neck & I went through the same thing with getting strings that were long enough. I contacted Ernie Ball/D'addario/Picato etc etc & they all said they didn't make strings that were long enough for the 12 neck due to reasons mentioned in the video HOWEVER I did find a set that were just about long enough ( despite Ernie Ball telling me no they wouldn't fit!) - Ernie Ball 12 Nickel Custom Sets will fit:)
Gibson has a lot of other brands under their wing. I could see them moving certain sister brands or midrange stuff to Indonesia, but not their highest end stuff. Like Tom Murphy is not moving to Indonesia.
He’ll get bought out and some Chinese dude will take over and not even miss a beat . Same way they moved out of Kalamazoo , they’ll move out of Nashville ! Trump won’t save them .
What are you gonna do with 5-8 cars though? I think people should be able to spend how much they want on the thing they want without people like you criticising them.
That Fender eclipse Burst is my favorite they have next to that Blue outside Black inside “night Burst” they have, that reminds me of Pandora from Guitar hero
I honestly think they are starting to get concerned about the fakes now. I would be all for it! them offering a cheaper overseas model with the Gibson logo most people could actually afford.
People complained about the USA quality Gibsons… Now they cry because they wont be made in the US anymore… then they will complain again when they come back to the US because of ultra high prices and not good quality… lolol.. these people complain yet they are still nobody in the music scene
I personally wouldn't care if Gibson left America (I'm English anyway) but given how much they pride themselves on being American it would be funny. It'd be cool if they could bring the price down a bit
So during my time there, the rumor was that Henry J was behind the Chibsons in an attempt to see which Eastern country could make the best version the cheapest and then was moving production there. Not sure how true it was, but ever wonder why as sue happy Gibson was/is over thier brand and shapes they never hunt the Chibson builders down?
I have thought for a while that Gibson might go to Japan for "in-line" and keep the US for Custom Shop only. Less staff, less are (rent), $6K+ US builds.
Oh my goodness. I love that Studio Session. If it's priced right ($2000-ish, less than a Standard) I'll be bringing one of these home. 3600 AUD is 2300 USD as you said, but their prices also include VAT. A $2000 price tag makes sense since the Modern Studio probably didn't sell well, and Gibson realized they need to give more for the same money, since they can't very well charge less. That article is completely made up.
I got that Stratocaster Eclipse !!! I got so lucky because the one I got has insanely beautiful flame on the back of the neck compared to the ones I’ve seen in my local Guitar Center. The ones in my GC still had beautiful flame but the one I got the flames were more pronounced !!
Leaving America won't ruin Gibson, their pricing, quality control issues (given the price), and overall attitude will. Or already has. I like their guitars and all but yikes. My $750 Epiphone Koa custom makes great music, makes me feel happy, and I literally do not care where in the universe it was made.
I like that they're now doing a "regular" Jimmy 1275, hopefully it's only the beginning of his guitars. I wonder what a Gibson USA #1 would be priced at
I was at my local Guitar Center store yesterday, and they had 2 of the new Les Paul Studio Sessions hanging on the wall, 1 trans black and 1 honey burst. They looked really nice, and they were priced at $1,999. I got one of the new LP Studios that came out a couple months ago and it is fantastic, so I have high hopes for the Session as well. Might have to check one out.
I don’t see Gibson moving from made in USA. Maybe they might move their “cheaper” Gibson’s to Indonesia like the studio modern lites but I doubt they’d do that even. They’ve got Epiphone made in china as their more affordable option but even they are getting up there. Here in Australia those high end Epiphone’s are $2,800 the same price as the Gibson modern lite is
I had a Double Neck SG w/that tail piece & I had to order the Octave G string from C.G. Gitty Cigar Box Guitar supply place. I had some one to measure to make sure it was long enough & I bought a couple of dozen of the single Octave G strings.
Who cares if they did move manufacturing out of the US. Its been proven time and time again that the quality of a US made Gibson isn't all that. Overseas manufacturing in Korea, Indonesia, and even in some Chinese factories are just as good, if not better than any Gibson. I have Gibson, I have US Fender, I have Schecter, I have Epiphone and you know what, I honestly don't think the US stuff is worth what I paid for it.
Gibson leaving the US would be insane. Why don’t they keep the Chinese Epiphones under 1k and start a Gibson made in Japan line that could sit in that $1200-2k range that would be high quality and still be cheaper than USA.
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What's funny is if you go to that article now, its had the title changed from 12 iconic American brands to 9. And there's not a single source listed anywhere in the article. That news site looks like an AI generated click bait farm.
Yeah, definitely AI generated and not based on reality.
It would 100% destroy their brand and value.
Why
no i wouldn't buy a non-American Gibson. no thank you. that's what Epiphone is for.
Move Gibson production to Japan and the quality would be 10x better.
Gibson mij would be worth the money.
Came to comment this. Keep the custom shop stuff in the US, move the standards to Japan or Korea. Assuming they drop the damn price along with it (they won't) their product would move a lot more.
@@KnapfordMaster98 No Hungary, Korea, Missouri, Philippines or Russia - ew!
@@KnapfordMaster98do me a favor and look at what a current Jackson made in Japan model is going for lol. I’ll give you a hint. (It’s more than the most expensive Gibson Les Paul Standard)
I don’t think a Gibson made in Japan would go for less than that.
My MIJ Gretsch is leaps and bounds better than either one of my Gibsons.
I would totally abandon Gibson if they moved all production out of the US.
I totally abandoned gibson 15 years ago
@telecatsermaster Fair enough. I still love my Gibsons just fine
Yup
I never inhabited them
@@infinidominion Ibanez guy?
The ONLY reason left to buy Gibson is that they're still made in the USA (I'm British). I want to own the same instruments that I saw my British and American heroes play on TOTP and MTV during the 70s & 80s. I want a little piece of Nashville, not Beijing!
Yes, same here, British as well. Long may Gibson continue to be made in the US.
You're buying guitars for weak reasons.
@@ChrisShortyAllen😂 it’s not a competition
People work hard for the things they want and they want those things to meet their expectations. You pooping on their aspirations doesn’t make you superior
If the qualitity would be much better?
I’m sure Chris shorty Allen up there only buys guitars for like, the most, valid reasons lolz
When comparing prices in Australia to the USA, you need to factor shipping costs too. So your conversion of $2,333.66 wouldn't be far off the $1,999 Sweetwater price.
We get screwed over twice in Australia; shit currency conversion and exuberant shipping costs...
Hows shipping from Japan?
@@infinidominion It's in the ballpark, although it's hard to compare as the Japanese sellers sometimes factor shipping into the price. Their prices can vary wildly from seller to seller. You think you've found an amazing deal until you click on shipping and see they want $400 for it.
Don't forget the cost of conversion to right hand drive. 😅
To be fair shipping costs are really weird and hard to judge final cost by... Like the UK has the most expensive shipping in Europe to the US when they are closer to the USA and don't have to travcel far by land... Instead of Sweden which has insanely cheap and fast shipping despite thye most round a bout route you can take... Like going south to central central Europe then west to the channel then south though tge channel to the US... Also shipping product like this has never been an iisue only when your company is small and youi don't ship somewhere often and don't want the costomer to eat the whole cost of shipping... Which for all the issues the auromoblie industry has with multi region car sales... shipping isn't one of them as the shipping cost isn't that big of cost if you already made a car able to sold new in that region... Like the Asian companies mostly make theor cars in their major region and only openb factories in regions that have a very unqie and popular model.... So yeah Gibson won't caree about shipping cost and if it did you would pay for iy not them.
I own 4 les Paul customs, 2 60s standards, 2 explorers, 2 j45s, a les Paul studio, an es335, a recent made 63 les Paul custom and a nonreverse thunderbird. The day they’re no longer made in the USA I’ll never buy another.
You wouldn’t need to, based on your inventory, so you’re good to go.
@@ckelly5141 lol well said
No, I would not buy a non made in USA Gibson.
why
I work for Guitar Center, that eclipse strat was part of an exclusive GC VIP event before it actually dropped. In person you really get to appreciate what they were trying to do, he wasn't kidding about the flaming on the neck too, the one that was shipped to our store was literally insane. A super cool piece, go check it out if you haven't.
I've been saying this is what the grossly overpriced Epiphonies were about, along with allowing them the Gibson headstock. Conditioning people to accept import Gibsons across the line with the only USA made Gibsons being Custom Shop.
I mean prices for epi are not so overpriced when you see standard gibies being shit quality (even though it has gotten a tad bit better)
I love and have play Gibson guitars for over 45 years....however....no new guitar is worth $10,000 + to a true player....
Yeah
That’s why I gig a studio every weekend. Don’t need pretty, just need a good playing and sounding guitar.
Epiphone already shifted production of some models to the Samick factory in Indonesia. I have an Epiphone Joe Pass model made in Indonesia and the fit and finish is awesome.
I am calling BS on the whole Gibson moving to Indonesia. They are American Made. It is one of their things...
Did you call B.S. on Harley-Davidson ? Be quiet cause your jeans are made in Vietnam , and you drive a Hyundai .
In my opinion, moving the production outside of the US would destroy the brand.
Gibson could have Mexico or Japanese made like Fender and I don’t think people would hate on that as much. One thing is for sure, anything made outside of the US better be significantly cheaper…
Why ? The Eastman SB59V is made in China and they cost as much as a Gibson Standard .
Always wondered why the 6 string veneer doesn’t have a dot but the 12 string does??
That looks like a purposely planted thing to denote a genuine article. Would imagine counterfeiters wouldn't notice that and put both dots on, unknowingly instantly giving it away
Never under-estimate what a corporate suit will do when they need to hit a profit margin and don't truly understand the community.
They've already been having QA issues that aren't common outside of Gibson.
Correct. A japanese made ibanez prestige hardtail will be delivered to you in perfect condition with ZERO factory issues, better playability and feel and much less money.
Gibson should be made in the Cort factory. They'd be better quality. And could offer better features in production models like stainless steel frets and locking tuners.
TBH, I don't care where a guitar is made. You can make a great guitar anywhere given the same woods, hardware, electronics, skilled workers, and attention to detail/consistency.
I have been saying for a while that I believe there will be a time , sadly in the near future that a portion of Gibson production will move abroad . Wouldn’t be surprised if anything below standard goes that way. Think probably more fender will go this way too. It’s sad but for survival most companies have had to tread this path.
I think so too. I also think that the stuff that's moved out of the US will be Epiphone badged. So for example, the tributes and studios will be Epiphone models and be missing from gibson's catalog. This protects the gibson brand.
"for survival"? No, to maximize profits. The end goal of any corporate entity.
Let’s see Fender send Gibson a cease, and desist letter.🎸🎸🎸
probably clickbait. They have to know that the only reason we buy them is because American made.
Isn’t the made in America the biggest deal for lot of people buying Gibson.
Assume pricing won’t change if production would go abroad.
Korean and Japanese guitars are the best made. Used to be Japan was the the outright winner but the stuff from Korea is getting better and better.
I love the ' Sea Smoke ' finish , it looks like an ink blue , also love the Fender ' Eclipse ' finish , especially on the P-bass ! Thanks Trogly !
I really doubt they would stop making guitars in the US, but if they did that is a great reason to pick up a Heritage. Keeping the history of the Parsons Street factory alive, and hopefully they get the old smokestack back up someday.
I stopped buying Epi's when they moved to China. I would not buy a full on Gibson made outside the US.
China guitars are high quality
As you drive your BMW that was made in South Carolina
The 57 classic p'ups in the new Studio are a huge upgrade.
490's suck. 57's are the real deal.
I've heard the same nonsense about another major American manufacturer in another product market for the last five years. Nothing has changed except that they certain factories were closed and consolidated to existing locatolion elsewhere in the USA.
Knowing GIBSON'S greed If they ever did move Abroad They would More than Likely Keep their Prices The Same For even MORE PROFIT !
For the right price I'd buy a non American Gibson. But why would Gibson do this after investing so much into Epiphone? A non American Gibson would kill Epiphone nearly overnight.
If they're as creative/fun as Fender Japan, I'd buy a Gibson Japan
You can already get pro-level Gibsons for lower real cost than what they went for back in Da Golden Age, and to move production out of the country in today's political climate would be a case of towering bad sense. The tariffs we can expect will make imports considerably more expensive, perhaps to the point that Chinese Epiphone prices will be in Gibson USA territory and the (hopefully hypothetical) Indonesian Gibsons will be above that.
Peavey's reputation took a hit when Hartley took production to the People's Republic, and should make for a word-to-the-wise moment for Gibson.
Shure i would buy chinese or asian gibsons, probably the qualitity would be better.
I hope they don’t leave th US, but if they do I’m locking my Les Paul’s up in a vault and selling them when I’m old.
I could see them moving some of their "lesser" models to non-US factories, like say Studios for example, but not abandoning US production altogether. Fender has their MIM line with actual Fender branding & I don't think it's destroyed their brand.
Get woke go broke Gibson.
Gibson is smart enough to know that if they move all production out of the U.S. that they will lose the biggest majority of their US sales.
If they are going to Indonesia they are out for a money grab , labor is super cheap and quality will suffer!
Really ? Did your Apple products suffer after they moved to China ? 🤣
Gibson is engraved in American history. can't be anywhere else
Just like Ford , Apple , Harley-Davidson , right ? !
Gibson Mexico
I'm definitely going to try the new anniversary bass. Very excited to test it out.
Buying a Gibson not made in the USA is like buying a fake Rolex. Something you buy so you can pretend you own a Gibson.
Foreign manufactured guitars with brands from American companies seem like licensed knock offs, especially the low end guitars made in factories that make knock offs of multiple brands.
Gibson and Rickenbacker are the only two big American guitar brands I know of that haven’t sold out yet.
Gibson is starting to edge towards it now that they’re using the Gibson headstock profile on Epiphone Les Pauls so in the end Rickenbacker may stand alone. I hope not.
Heritage of Kalamazoo
To me LP Studios should be bare bone as possible. Save in all senses, no binding, no cooo top, just dots. Make it as affordable as possible
I'm already dumping my Gibson Custom Shop guitars to buy a couple pre CBS Telecasters... After 15 years of having a dozen CS Les Pauls I realize I grab my old Norlins when I want to play a LP
Am I the only one SCREAMING for a Jimmy Page Epiphone model? Not just the double neck, but I’d LOVE to see an Epiphone #1 or #2 Les Paul! As far as Gibson being made overseas, I really can’t see it, but Fender, PRS, Gretsch & everybody else, except for Rickenbacker does it. They would still have to do Custom shop stuff over here. And YES! Do an episode on the blue LP Supreme!
Austin, on the Gibson process YT series of videos it states that all guitars go through the Plek machine yet we see Sweetwater offering Plek pro for $299 can you say what the difference is?
I think they would continue to build the standard and up models in the USA, but I could see them moving studios to the cort factory in Indonesia and have a lower tier Gibson. Kind of like what PRS does with their SE models.
The hardtail on that strat is the selling point for me. Cool finish but not necessary. The string through body is what I love about my telecaster
0:52 Anyone know what model this is? 🤔
la bella strings are really long, at least the benders are.
Iommi was endorsed by LaBella for a while, not sure if still is. They're great strings
I’ve played an Epi LP that I got in ‘94. After I got done doing what I wanted to it, I gigged the crap out of it. It needs a refret now, and nobody around here does it, so I needed a new LP.
I looked around at new epis, and there is no way in hell I would spend a grand on a Chinese made guitar. So I bought a Gibson studio. It’s amazing, pleked, plays like a dream, and made in good old USA. It was worth the extra money for me.
If gibson moves out of country, it would ruin their brand.
Did we touch on the new Gibson Hummingbird EC? Don't mind a cutaway on an acoustic
I love that hardtail Eclipse strat! I love hardtails. I have two Warmoth partscasters with hardtails and a Fender strat with a blocked tremolo.
I have exclusively played hardtail Stratocasters for decades, & I do believe that this ugly painted reverse sunburst limited HSS model, is the first hardtail to ever feature the contoured neck heel…🎸
Re Les Paul Studio's, to my ear i do prefer the sound of 57 Classics to the 490's.
I had to restring a JP Double neck & I went through the same thing with getting strings that were long enough. I contacted Ernie Ball/D'addario/Picato etc etc & they all said they didn't make strings that were long enough for the 12 neck due to reasons mentioned in the video HOWEVER I did find a set that were just about long enough ( despite Ernie Ball telling me no they wouldn't fit!) - Ernie Ball 12 Nickel Custom Sets will fit:)
Thanks for the video.
Gibson has a lot of other brands under their wing. I could see them moving certain sister brands or midrange stuff to Indonesia, but not their highest end stuff. Like Tom Murphy is not moving to Indonesia.
He’ll get bought out and some Chinese dude will take over and not even miss a beat . Same way they moved out of Kalamazoo , they’ll move out of Nashville ! Trump won’t save them .
WHOA TROGLY!! Canada ONCE?? Details please.
Acoustics made in the old Garrison factory.
you could wear the silk pajamas to bed while you cry yourself to sleep knowing you spent enough on a guitar that could have paid for 5 to 8 cars.
What are you gonna do with 5-8 cars though? I think people should be able to spend how much they want on the thing they want without people like you criticising them.
Where are you going to buy 5 to 8 cars for 50,000$ 😅
@@steveparish9210
At the salvage yard, or maybe one of the auctions where used cars dealers sell the cars that don’t sell quick enough on their lots.
That Fender eclipse Burst is my favorite they have next to that Blue outside Black inside “night Burst” they have, that reminds me of Pandora from Guitar hero
Fender calls that burst finish with the blue edge and black center “dark night”
What about the Fender Ultra 2 series?
Just buy a PRS
I honestly think they are starting to get concerned about the fakes now. I would be all for it! them offering a cheaper overseas model with the Gibson logo most people could actually afford.
That's like a Chinese Harley..😮
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I love my firefly guitars 😊
ew les paul ew, i will never buy a les paul from anywhere even if it's free.
Would you have to buy it if it was free? Me confused. 🤔
People complained about the USA quality Gibsons… Now they cry because they wont be made in the US anymore… then they will complain again when they come back to the US because of ultra high prices and not good quality… lolol.. these people complain yet they are still nobody in the music scene
No for Gibson products made anywhere else
I just got my eclipse strat today, limited to 400!
I personally wouldn't care if Gibson left America (I'm English anyway) but given how much they pride themselves on being American it would be funny. It'd be cool if they could bring the price down a bit
They wont post it...they will just do the change quietly...SHADY!
So during my time there, the rumor was that Henry J was behind the Chibsons in an attempt to see which Eastern country could make the best version the cheapest and then was moving production there. Not sure how true it was, but ever wonder why as sue happy Gibson was/is over thier brand and shapes they never hunt the Chibson builders down?
Very interesting……🤔
I’d have thought they had no laws protecting them until a chibson arrives at the US border. Why would a chinese factory care about american laws?
I have thought for a while that Gibson might go to Japan for "in-line" and keep the US for Custom Shop only. Less staff, less are (rent), $6K+ US builds.
Moving? Maybe, maybe not. But best to grab a used Gibson right now, since there are some amazing bargains to be had in the currently slow used market.
The only way I would ever buy a Gibson is if I found one at a garage sale or other dirt cheap score to sell on for profit.
good !-now maybe they can sell them for realistic prices😂
Oh my goodness. I love that Studio Session. If it's priced right ($2000-ish, less than a Standard) I'll be bringing one of these home. 3600 AUD is 2300 USD as you said, but their prices also include VAT. A $2000 price tag makes sense since the Modern Studio probably didn't sell well, and Gibson realized they need to give more for the same money, since they can't very well charge less.
That article is completely made up.
The Gibson website still has job listings up for their USA factories, which would not be the case if they were moving operations overseas.
I got that Stratocaster Eclipse !!! I got so lucky because the one I got has insanely beautiful flame on the back of the neck compared to the ones I’ve seen in my local Guitar Center. The ones in my GC still had beautiful flame but the one I got the flames were more pronounced !!
if they do this then the price best drop by 70%.....
NO, i would not buy a non-usa gibson.
Leaving America won't ruin Gibson, their pricing, quality control issues (given the price), and overall attitude will. Or already has. I like their guitars and all but yikes. My $750 Epiphone Koa custom makes great music, makes me feel happy, and I literally do not care where in the universe it was made.
The specs you show on the Strat says RW fretboard and the guitar you show is maple.
I like that they're now doing a "regular" Jimmy 1275, hopefully it's only the beginning of his guitars. I wonder what a Gibson USA #1 would be priced at
Please make all my usa gibsons worth more! Heck yeah.
I was at my local Guitar Center store yesterday, and they had 2 of the new Les Paul Studio Sessions hanging on the wall, 1 trans black and 1 honey burst. They looked really nice, and they were priced at $1,999. I got one of the new LP Studios that came out a couple months ago and it is fantastic, so I have high hopes for the Session as well. Might have to check one out.
Which guitar center?
I guess that’s a good way to give fender the complete lead..
I don’t see Gibson moving from made in USA. Maybe they might move their “cheaper” Gibson’s to Indonesia like the studio modern lites but I doubt they’d do that even. They’ve got Epiphone made in china as their more affordable option but even they are getting up there. Here in Australia those high end Epiphone’s are $2,800 the same price as the Gibson modern lite is
I would never buy a Gibson unless it was Made In America. I'll play Heritage
What kind of pick did Jimmy use?
Those are sold on zzounds those studio sessions?
I had a Double Neck SG w/that tail piece & I had to order the Octave G string from C.G. Gitty Cigar Box Guitar supply place. I had some one to measure to make sure it was long enough & I bought a couple of dozen of the single Octave G strings.
the session studio fixed all the things i didn't like about the modern studio
I played the Eclipse finished Strat at a Guitar Center last week. The neck on that one was also very figured and very cool looking.
Who cares if they did move manufacturing out of the US. Its been proven time and time again that the quality of a US made Gibson isn't all that. Overseas manufacturing in Korea, Indonesia, and even in some Chinese factories are just as good, if not better than any Gibson. I have Gibson, I have US Fender, I have Schecter, I have Epiphone and you know what, I honestly don't think the US stuff is worth what I paid for it.
And the truth…..will set you free. Actually, a free Gibson would be nice…um…wherever it is made.
@@ckelly5141 The 'truth' is that getting rid of most non essential material possessions would set us free, but that's a tough one 😊
Gibson leaving the US would be insane. Why don’t they keep the Chinese Epiphones under 1k and start a Gibson made in Japan line that could sit in that $1200-2k range that would be high quality and still be cheaper than USA.
Dude that eclipse color in person IS AMAZING.