Right on Doddy. This is the best chain video by far out there. Referencing differences between SRAM and Shimano. Size difference between full Suspension and hard tail, and last but not least positioning of the cranks with an oval chain ring.
Don't tell my SRAM Eagle Power Lock that I'm not supposed to reuse it, because right now I have him believing otherwise and don't won't him to go on strike and finally leave me stranded after 1000s of miles carrying my 230lbs around without issue.
You can reuse them. It's one of those clauses to protect the manufactures, plus I believe shimano don't have the patent on reusable quick links. Oh and don't forget they'd rather you just spend the money on buying another one. I've reused mine after cleaning the chain in petrol and then meth to try out the waxing lubrication thing. No issues at all.
Learnt a lot from this video - I'll be honest I have tended just to copy the old chain, but have swapped between Shimano and Sram chains in the past and not realised they needed different set-ups (which would explain some broken chains...). Top work Doddy!
I’ve used a quick link a number of times on my road bike. I’ve put 1300W through it relatively regularly, and never had problems with the reused quick link.
Bro thank you! I bought one chain kit for $15 and I cut it to short. I tried to superglue it together... ya... so bought another one and watched this. Last time my adhd made me skip through the parts where you say there's two different sets of sporks? idk what they're called. But thank you! I cut this one a little longer but oh well. It gets me around lmao
Yeah it is easier but some mechanics are idiots, they don't care about some differences btw brands. Like Doddy said here there is one . Personally i've had countless of issues because of them. So it's great to have tutorials, check and maintain it by ourselves.
For routine maintenance it's much easier to measure the old one. But this video shows some good methods for when a chain destroys itself in use or you're building a new bike
Best video on the subject. Just what I needed as I am converting from 2x10 to 1x10 with a larger cassette spread and a front chain ring size between the the original double chain rings.
If you see printing on the chain, keep that print facing out!!! Buy a chain for the same number as the speed cassette that you have, each number of speed has a different chain width...
I would add the caution for different sizes of derailleur cage. For this reason I fit my chain thru the derailleur to not gamble on the add x number of links formula.
I doubted Doddy!!!! Upgrading my old school Kona Kilauea from nine speed to 1x11 I used Doddy's demonstrated Shimano measurement using large ring to large ring. New lightweight KMC Gold on large to large and shortened as per the video; must admit it felt like a scene from a bomb disposal war film, surely this looks much too short, panic set in......but I should have had the faith, it fitted perfectly...apologies to Doddy, humble pie eaten!!!
I reuse the links many times never have a problem, my theory is shimano and sram create the system and works very good they can't say reuse the links 50 times they need to have sales
So everytime I take my chain off and give it a good clean and put it in a ultrasonic bath I have to put a new quick link on. Which could be 30 times. Might as well leave it dirty, let it wear and buy a new group set.
Why take your chain off to clean it? That's just asking for trouble. Gets perfectly clean with some degreaser and a quick scrub over with a wire brush before soaping the whole bike and chain, and spray it off. 1x drivetrains make it even easier to clean on the bike. 20 mins to completely clean bike.
Great vid as always! Have a Q. Instead of adding a specific amount of links by doing overlap like on SRAM and all that(I have SRAM)... Does this work?? Let say you know your chainstay growth and it's half an inch. You go around with the chain on biggest sprockets til the chainends meet and then you add half inch of links + "missing"link?
Doddy, I really enjoy your knowledge and information with all things bikes. However, every now and then you release something so wrong, that I feel I must reply and set things right. This time it’s this video on how to replace a MTB chain. I’ve been a certified mechanic for more than 25 years. I think I’ve learned a thing or two about replacing chains. What you described in the video is the most convoluted explanation I’ve ever heard. I’m sure you know better but are obligated to follow the manufacturers’ instructions. --------------------------------- Here’s the correct way to install a New Chain: 1. Remove old chain. LOL 2. Install new chain on the smallest cog of the cassette and around the smallest front chainring. Make sure you’ve threaded the chain through the derailleur(s) properly. 3. Gently overlap the two ends of the chain below the chainstay. 4. Where the ends of the chain overlap, when using a slight tension with your hands, remove one extra link to create tension in the rear derailleur. 5. After installing the quick link, double check for a small amount of tension in the rear derailleur. If the chain is sagging slightly, remove the quick link and remove one additional chain link. 6. Re-assemble the chain. 7. Shift down to the 1st gear (largest cog in the rear). Adjust the B-Limit screw to the correct gap between the cog and the guide pulley. 8. Shift back up to the smallest cog in the rear and recheck the sag of the chain and the tension on the rear derailleur. 9. Make the final adjustments to the High, Low and B-Limit screws and you’re good to go. --------------------------------- This is the way we’ve always installed chains. Never had a problem with any. Doesn’t matter if they’re 8 speed or 12 speed. It always works. Also, please stop telling people that they cannot re-use the quick links from the various manufacturers. You can. I wouldn’t re-use a quick link from an old/stretched chain, but for a new or slightly used chain, rock on. I only dispose of the quick links when I dispose of the chain. And feel free to use any quick link on any chain from any manufacturer. For example, I use KMC quick links on Shimano and SRAM chains. They all work fine provided that they are the correct link for the number of gears of the chain. 12 speed links for 12 speed chains, and so on. One last thing, don’t use more than one quick link per chain unless it’s an emergency repair.
I just love the "I’ve been a certified mechanic for more than 25 years. Never had a problem." argument. Especially when it's used against the manufacturers' recommendations.
I tried to do this on my 11 speed hardtail, and before I cut the chain, I routed the chain through the meck, and then I pulled one end to the point where I would make the cut, and realized that the chain was way too short. I don’t know what I did wrong. I followed all the steps, and counted three links, and when I counted, the chain was not through the meck. Any thoughts on what I could have done wrong?
Just converted an old scott fx2 3x9 to 1x11 the original chain was 102 links after 11 speed cassette and 32T front chainring worked out at 118 links exactly, its been a royal pain in the arse tbh.
Correction at 3:15 I just downloaded the dealer's manual from their website about my deore m5100, and they require you to have full sag when you're calculating chain length
Hi Doddy, your method of chain size measuring seems to differ from the one sram prescribes. You start counting the two extra inner and outer links (for ht) from the first pin. Sram counts from the first (open) link. Any reason your adding more length than sram? I am about to put on my first xx1 eagle chain on my scott 920 ht. Hoping to get it right the first time. Thanks.
@doddy I just changed the NX derailluer on a Trek Fuel to an AXS. I checked the chain length per SRAM and your instructions, and at 8:12 in this video I had two inners butted together. So I could add just one link and be short or three links and be long. I went long, but in top gear (smallest) with the suspension compressed the derailleur is nearly at it back limit - horizontal. Should I go short instead?
holy crap didn't this start with - replacing the chain is easy? This is not the case, deflate my nicely setup suspension, hold on buddy. I might just get a length similar, slightly shorter, than my existing chain.
I replaced my chain it's the same length as the old but it's skipping only on one gear(the smallest sprocket I usually ride on) what do you think is the problem?
you can reuse it but buy a spare and tape it to your cables in case it snaps.I reuse them and i put down around 270 watts and more so dont worry about it
@@zambaretulzambitor3713 not worried per say i've always reused and touch wood never had a problem yet but for the sake of a few pounds a year I might consider it in future.
i'm having trouble measuring the chain length. I added a bafang midmotor to my bike, which has a 9 speed cassette in the rear. I installed a bafang 46t chain ring. When i measure the chain wrapping around the largest sprocket in the rear and the one chain ring, it looks like the chain i purchased is the correct length with cutting. But when I attempt to install it, it seems too small. what am i doing wrong?
Could you not just use the shimano technique on a sram ? For the full suspension because either way the bike will be going under the same amount of movement
Hi, been following your show for years now and wondering if you can assist in sharing a basic guide in tunning rear suspension and fork. Say if you feel the rear wheel is all over the place, do we start adjusting the HSC? Or if your rear wheel keeps on kicking you off when you do small jumps, do we need to adjust the HSR lower? thanks! #askGMBNtech
Have you tried both methods on the same bike to see if there was any difference in the final number of links? I'm curious if both methods give a similar result at the end of the day.
I may have misunderstood, but did you say the Shimano quick links are for emergencies only and you should replace it with a proper link before putting any power through the chain? Does this also mean you need a Shimano joining pin to remove the quick link, or two joining pins if you need to put a payment link in as a replacement should you chain be too short? I’ve been using the Shimano quick link in my chain for a few months 😟
You’re fine. You can use shimano quick links for regular use, just as you would a pin. I use kmc ones on shimano chains no problem. I re use them too haven’t had a problem yet.
I managed to snap my chain twice in 6 months so I got the bike shop to put a new chain on. When I first took it out the gears were slipping loads and there was a grinding noise coming from the gears. I went back to the shop and he reckoned it was the cassette wearing out and I'd need a new one. I decided to carry on riding with it until it got so bad I had to change the cassette but after a month of regular(ish) riding the grinding noise has gone and the gears hardly slip at all. It was almost like it needed riding in. Do you know why this is? Did the chain need to be stretched?
Chains definitely don't need to stretch...are you new to mountain biking? I ask because snapping chains is not something that happens that often. Are you riding a single front chainring...if not that might help, especially if you are 'cross chaining' under load....that's the only way i have snapped a chain in about 20 years of regular riding... trying to help.
@@johnbeedham3010 yeah I know the chain shouldn't snap that quick. It's a new bike so a 1 by. I think it may have been a defective chain and when I took it back they didn't replace it just put a new chain link in and it was the damaged one that went again. Not new to it but got back into after years out. I do maintain my bike, although probably should do more 😆
Most people will basically replace their old chain with a new one. In this case can’t you just measure the new chain with the old one to get the correct size? Seems logical and simple to me.
Apparently...but I reuse them again and again, they get retired when I change chains, never had one fail in 1000s and 1000s of kms.....but I do carry a spare link!
@@dr.science_0177 usually if my quick link breaks and then my chain is broken or when my chain is past the wear limit, then I replace my chain and quick link, or if the quick link breaks then I just get a new one but also some brands quick links are designed to be reusable and some not but even the non reusable ones you can reuse
He says add X # of links + a quick link...and then proceeds to count each pivot point as a link. Keep your terminology correct. Without the graphic showing that you meant pivot points, one would have the chain too long. 12-speed full suspension says "5-6 links", but you can't HAVE an even number of links with the way Doddy was counting them. If you count links as pivot points, an even number of them has you breaking the chain in the wrong place, leaving two outer plates still half-connected.
Hi Doddy, i want to #askgmbn about the chain that went over the biggest cog in my mtb. We were riding an xc trail but my chain got stuck between the spokes and the cogs, we were able to fix it but im not sure if the chain is still road worthy or not, what do you think and what do i need to look for?
You may have damaged your chain and/or some of your spokes. Inspect everything closely. And a bent derailleur or derailleur hanger could easily be the cause, or the result, of your chain getting stuck there. So check your derailleur too.
Psia Krew! The modern chain Iv noticed that sram is less prone to wear rust and collection of debris, I think the coats on them are much stronger and smoother
Yes they still rust, 11spd at least. I don’t see why they don’t finish them like kmc does. No reason a dura ace/xtr chain should not be good enough to deserve it.
Doddy is the best tech guy. Thanks for covering topics like this in detail.
KMC actually has a reusable quick link. I use it on all my bikes with no issues :)
@Monolithic Juggernaut yes I’ve used them many times without any problems
I re-use KMC single use links. I often take my chain off for deep cleaning. Never had an issue when reusing a link.
Its called marketing strategy, if you dont know now you know.
All quick links are reusable, I’ve used my sram quick link over 8 times with zero problems
Thanks for this! Just replaced my chain by myself for the first time ever in 23 years of mountain biking🙈🎉
Right on Doddy. This is the best chain video by far out there. Referencing differences between SRAM and Shimano. Size difference between full Suspension and hard tail, and last but not least positioning of the cranks with an oval chain ring.
Don't tell my SRAM Eagle Power Lock that I'm not supposed to reuse it, because right now I have him believing otherwise and don't won't him to go on strike and finally leave me stranded after 1000s of miles carrying my 230lbs around without issue.
I’ve done it before with no issues. Only time I’ve snapped my chain was when using a standard link and just pushing the pin back in after rejoining it
Same.
You can reuse them. It's one of those clauses to protect the manufactures, plus I believe shimano don't have the patent on reusable quick links. Oh and don't forget they'd rather you just spend the money on buying another one.
I've reused mine after cleaning the chain in petrol and then meth to try out the waxing lubrication thing. No issues at all.
Thanks for sharing this information Brother 😎. This will help me with my new Chain Replacement.
Same here. Reused my SRAM chain link 3 or 4 times. I drove like few hundreds km with it for sure. Nothing happened.
Learnt a lot from this video - I'll be honest I have tended just to copy the old chain, but have swapped between Shimano and Sram chains in the past and not realised they needed different set-ups (which would explain some broken chains...). Top work Doddy!
Thanks for the detailed guide. Doing this tomorrow and wasn’t clear whether the shock should be deflated or not!
I’ve used a quick link a number of times on my road bike. I’ve put 1300W through it relatively regularly, and never had problems with the reused quick link.
Same
Same
I wish I saw this 2 days ago! Installed a new SRAM chain with the link upside down and snapped it at the link, lol. Thanks Doddy!
Bro thank you! I bought one chain kit for $15 and I cut it to short. I tried to superglue it together... ya... so bought another one and watched this. Last time my adhd made me skip through the parts where you say there's two different sets of sporks? idk what they're called. But thank you! I cut this one a little longer but oh well. It gets me around lmao
Sounds like it’s actually easier to just count the links on the old chain.😜
Thanks Doddy!
Maybe if you haven't snapped the chain.. Not possible with no chain or when building a bike from the ground up.
Yeah it is easier but some mechanics are idiots, they don't care about some differences btw brands. Like Doddy said here there is one . Personally i've had countless of issues because of them. So it's great to have tutorials, check and maintain it by ourselves.
For routine maintenance it's much easier to measure the old one. But this video shows some good methods for when a chain destroys itself in use or you're building a new bike
@@DesperateDan3231 I keep a "reference" chain, an old degreased one. I then put a rod through the ends of both chains and match them up.
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 great tip, thank you, much appreciated. 👍👍
Best video on the subject. Just what I needed as I am converting from 2x10 to 1x10 with a larger cassette spread and a front chain ring size between the the original double chain rings.
Thanks Doddy! Just what I needed. Wanted to change the chain on my kids bike and my old hardtail.
The Topeak chain tools come with a chain clip inside the grip ! 👍🏼
The best video I´ve seen about chain sizing !
Great video. One added issue is symmetrical vs asymmetrical Shimano chains. There's a difference.
Great you are thanks for the understandable instructions thank you for sharing 👍
A very thorough tutorial. Fantastic job. Thank you.
Thanks for this and even didn’t think about which way the link went properly. Awesome
I find these videos unbelievably helpful. Thanks so much!
Deflating the rear shock to your personal sag is a useful thing to do before adjusting your b-screw.
Needed this guide more than I thought i did.... good show.
Thanks Doddy .... a clear explanation of a topic with many variants
If you see printing on the chain, keep that print facing out!!! Buy a chain for the same number as the speed cassette that you have, each number of speed has a different chain width...
Very helpful, & great tool to have knowledge wise in the tool box. Thanks again!
I would add the caution for different sizes of derailleur cage. For this reason I fit my chain thru the derailleur to not gamble on the add x number of links formula.
Happy Christmas Doddy and thanks for the great job.....
Merry Christmas!
Doddy, you are the best! Thanks for the understandable instructions!
I still use my quick link in the 5th chain, no problem at all.
I did the same thing and my quick link opened and i lost my chain
Quick links are cheap, snapping a chain can be painful
Lucky, I went otb following advice like yours, my chain snapped
That sucks
My local bike shop does it for less than ten bucks. Worth every penny with the bonus of friendly conversation while I wait.
My bike shop charged $18 for a single sram powerlink
I doubted Doddy!!!!
Upgrading my old school Kona Kilauea from nine speed to 1x11 I used Doddy's demonstrated Shimano measurement using large ring to large ring.
New lightweight KMC Gold on large to large and shortened as per the video; must admit it felt like a scene from a bomb disposal war film, surely this looks much too short, panic set in......but I should have had the faith, it fitted perfectly...apologies to Doddy, humble pie eaten!!!
I reuse the links many times never have a problem, my theory is shimano and sram create the system and works very good they can't say reuse the links 50 times they need to have sales
I would have needed this vid 3 weeks ago🤪
I use a paper clip. Works every time.
So everytime I take my chain off and give it a good clean and put it in a ultrasonic bath I have to put a new quick link on. Which could be 30 times. Might as well leave it dirty, let it wear and buy a new group set.
Why take your chain off to clean it? That's just asking for trouble. Gets perfectly clean with some degreaser and a quick scrub over with a wire brush before soaping the whole bike and chain, and spray it off. 1x drivetrains make it even easier to clean on the bike. 20 mins to completely clean bike.
Cheers for that! I'm converting from SRam SX to Shimano XT 8100 and this vid came in handy for finishing it all off 👏
Great vid as always! Have a Q.
Instead of adding a specific amount of links by doing overlap like on SRAM and all that(I have SRAM)...
Does this work??
Let say you know your chainstay growth and it's half an inch.
You go around with the chain on biggest sprockets til the chainends meet and then you add half inch of links + "missing"link?
Great video. And I want that bike! That is beautiful.
so at 6:42 (for shimano full suss) should it be split at "6" or the next or previous inner plate at "7" or "5"? & then the quick link added.
Doddy, I really enjoy your knowledge and information with all things bikes. However, every now and then you release something so wrong, that I feel I must reply and set things right. This time it’s this video on how to replace a MTB chain.
I’ve been a certified mechanic for more than 25 years. I think I’ve learned a thing or two about replacing chains. What you described in the video is the most convoluted explanation I’ve ever heard. I’m sure you know better but are obligated to follow the manufacturers’ instructions.
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Here’s the correct way to install a New Chain:
1. Remove old chain. LOL
2. Install new chain on the smallest cog of the cassette and around the smallest front chainring. Make sure you’ve threaded the chain through the derailleur(s) properly.
3. Gently overlap the two ends of the chain below the chainstay.
4. Where the ends of the chain overlap, when using a slight tension with your hands, remove one extra link to create tension in the rear derailleur.
5. After installing the quick link, double check for a small amount of tension in the rear derailleur. If the chain is sagging slightly, remove the quick link and remove one additional chain link.
6. Re-assemble the chain.
7. Shift down to the 1st gear (largest cog in the rear). Adjust the B-Limit screw to the correct gap between the cog and the guide pulley.
8. Shift back up to the smallest cog in the rear and recheck the sag of the chain and the tension on the rear derailleur.
9. Make the final adjustments to the High, Low and B-Limit screws and you’re good to go.
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This is the way we’ve always installed chains. Never had a problem with any. Doesn’t matter if they’re 8 speed or 12 speed. It always works.
Also, please stop telling people that they cannot re-use the quick links from the various manufacturers. You can. I wouldn’t re-use a quick link from an old/stretched chain, but for a new or slightly used chain, rock on. I only dispose of the quick links when I dispose of the chain.
And feel free to use any quick link on any chain from any manufacturer. For example, I use KMC quick links on Shimano and SRAM chains. They all work fine provided that they are the correct link for the number of gears of the chain. 12 speed links for 12 speed chains, and so on.
One last thing, don’t use more than one quick link per chain unless it’s an emergency repair.
Seth's Berm Peak YT channel just posted a video about making an entire MTB chain from quick links...
@@mattkavanaugh5623 yep. Saw that video. Crazy but fun if you've got the time. 😁
I just love the "I’ve been a certified mechanic for more than 25 years. Never had a problem." argument. Especially when it's used against the manufacturers' recommendations.
Thanks for this Howie
This is how most bike mechanics are still getting teached today and it works perfectly.
I tried to do this on my 11 speed hardtail, and before I cut the chain, I routed the chain through the meck, and then I pulled one end to the point where I would make the cut, and realized that the chain was way too short. I don’t know what I did wrong. I followed all the steps, and counted three links, and when I counted, the chain was not through the meck. Any thoughts on what I could have done wrong?
Brilliant thanks for the footage my friend
Thanks Doddy 🙂
Just replacing my chain now
Thanks, chain is fitted great. Do you need to oil a brand new SRAM chain? It’s super sticky to touch
Very sturdy, and easy to clean.Excellent product
Just converted an old scott fx2 3x9 to 1x11 the original chain was 102 links after 11 speed cassette and 32T front chainring worked out at 118 links exactly, its been a royal pain in the arse tbh.
Correction at 3:15 I just downloaded the dealer's manual from their website about my deore m5100, and they require you to have full sag when you're calculating chain length
Ffs, I thought everyone was calling him daddy, the I realised it’s doddy 🤣
i need to replace my chain now its worm out but do i leave it till it gets dryer or change it now and ride it through all the slop?
Isnt it easier just to make the new chain the same length as the one your replacing?
Hi Doddy, your method of chain size measuring seems to differ from the one sram prescribes. You start counting the two extra inner and outer links (for ht) from the first pin. Sram counts from the first (open) link. Any reason your adding more length than sram? I am about to put on my first xx1 eagle chain on my scott 920 ht. Hoping to get it right the first time. Thanks.
Hey Doddy and gang, I just counted the links for my bike and did it that way. Is that all good?
If I replacing my old chain with new one, can I just compare length of old chain with new one to know how many links do I need?
If it was functioning just fine, YES, go ahead and line up the old/new break the new one, connect, and you're good to go. It's way less complicated.
I have been doing that for donkey's years. Best and most reliable method.
The bearded Doddy has returned, what are your thoughts about Box Components Prime 9.
@doddy I just changed the NX derailluer on a Trek Fuel to an AXS. I checked the chain length per SRAM and your instructions, and at 8:12 in this video I had two inners butted together. So I could add just one link and be short or three links and be long. I went long, but in top gear (smallest) with the suspension compressed the derailleur is nearly at it back limit - horizontal. Should I go short instead?
What if you have a Spring loaded Shock how would you measure the chain, take if off?
Thanks Doddy - How do you calculate if you have an adjustable chain stay?
I dont want to mess up. Where should the gears be.. how should the gears be
What about if you've got a SRAM derailleur and a Shimano crankset like me ?
holy crap didn't this start with - replacing the chain is easy? This is not the case, deflate my nicely setup suspension, hold on buddy. I might just get a length similar, slightly shorter, than my existing chain.
I replaced my chain it's the same length as the old but it's skipping only on one gear(the smallest sprocket I usually ride on) what do you think is the problem?
I never knew quick links were single use just assumed they could be reused. Lesson learnt.
you can reuse it but buy a spare and tape it to your cables in case it snaps.I reuse them and i put down around 270 watts and more so dont worry about it
@@zambaretulzambitor3713 not worried per say i've always reused and touch wood never had a problem yet but for the sake of a few pounds a year I might consider it in future.
dumb question. are chains directional or is there a top and a bottom etc? thanks!
i'm having trouble measuring the chain length. I added a bafang midmotor to my bike, which has a 9 speed cassette in the rear. I installed a bafang 46t chain ring. When i measure the chain wrapping around the largest sprocket in the rear and the one chain ring, it looks like the chain i purchased is the correct length with cutting. But when I attempt to install it, it seems too small. what am i doing wrong?
Sorry to ask. What if im using a goat link? Will either shimano or sram method works?
Could you not just use the shimano technique on a sram ? For the full suspension because either way the bike will be going under the same amount of movement
when gmbn tech runs out of content, just make another "how to replace my chain" video. Next week: how to inflate your tires.
Tyres.
@@jaykingsun7093 whatever
Can you use your old chain as a measuring guide in counting the links for th proper length?
Will the shimano method works on sram drivetrain?
What about a Shimano 10 speed lenght? :o
Thanks
shimano 11 speed can i use the same method? thanks bro
Use this video if you want your chain to be too short add a extra link over what they say
What about 9 speed? How many extra links then?
Hi, been following your show for years now and wondering if you can assist in sharing a basic guide in tunning rear suspension and fork. Say if you feel the rear wheel is all over the place, do we start adjusting the HSC? Or if your rear wheel keeps on kicking you off when you do small jumps, do we need to adjust the HSR lower? thanks! #askGMBNtech
GMBN Tech, would the 2 links apply for a 2x to 1x oval conversion with a Shimano drivetrain?
My chain skips a little at the quick link on one of the mech wheels. Why? I’m sure it’s on correctly. It’s driving me crazy.
Then the link is stiff, make sure it moves freely.
How many link to add on 9s hardtrail ?
Have you tried both methods on the same bike to see if there was any difference in the final number of links? I'm curious if both methods give a similar result at the end of the day.
In my case (FS with 150mm travel) both methods (Shimano & SRAM) gave me exactly the same results.
Great vid!
I suppose count the links before you have to change the chain .
Do you need to degrease the new chain?
I may have misunderstood, but did you say the Shimano quick links are for emergencies only and you should replace it with a proper link before putting any power through the chain?
Does this also mean you need a Shimano joining pin to remove the quick link, or two joining pins if you need to put a payment link in as a replacement should you chain be too short?
I’ve been using the Shimano quick link in my chain for a few months 😟
You’re fine. You can use shimano quick links for regular use, just as you would a pin. I use kmc ones on shimano chains no problem. I re use them too haven’t had a problem yet.
Why should I deflate my rear shock on sram install? Won't the chain be te small then seeming that you removing all the travel the shock provides?
No, as you shorten the eye to eye length of the shock the swing arm will actually go up and slightly back which will lengthen the chainstay slightly.
I managed to snap my chain twice in 6 months so I got the bike shop to put a new chain on. When I first took it out the gears were slipping loads and there was a grinding noise coming from the gears. I went back to the shop and he reckoned it was the cassette wearing out and I'd need a new one. I decided to carry on riding with it until it got so bad I had to change the cassette but after a month of regular(ish) riding the grinding noise has gone and the gears hardly slip at all. It was almost like it needed riding in. Do you know why this is? Did the chain need to be stretched?
Your chain streached too fast becouse the bad casette, now it feels goodish but it can slip if the casette is too worn and its teeth look like a wave.
I don't know but if you #AskGMBNTech I think they'll try and respond to your question
Chains definitely don't need to stretch...are you new to mountain biking? I ask because snapping chains is not something that happens that often. Are you riding a single front chainring...if not that might help, especially if you are 'cross chaining' under load....that's the only way i have snapped a chain in about 20 years of regular riding... trying to help.
@@mod.ts76 I don't have twitter so can't tag them in...
@@johnbeedham3010 yeah I know the chain shouldn't snap that quick. It's a new bike so a 1 by. I think it may have been a defective chain and when I took it back they didn't replace it just put a new chain link in and it was the damaged one that went again.
Not new to it but got back into after years out. I do maintain my bike, although probably should do more 😆
Aren't you also supposed to put the chain and quick link on so that any words or numbers on the links are facing out?
this overlap is doing my head in…can someone please explain it in laymens terms?
So, since I have full suspension and Deore M6100, do I need to let air out of the rear shock?
Just bought 2 junk bikes off Facebook, haven’t worked on a bike since I was 11 , wish me luck
Can't believe folk go to bike shops for repairs.
Great video
Most people will basically replace their old chain with a new one. In this case can’t you just measure the new chain with the old one to get the correct size? Seems logical and simple to me.
Cool, good nowledge :-)
So everytime I open my quick link I have to replace it?
No,Ive read and personally have reused a quick link 5+ times, no problem at all
Apparently...but I reuse them again and again, they get retired when I change chains, never had one fail in 1000s and 1000s of kms.....but I do carry a spare link!
@@furyxvanity2946 thx for the info my man. So when do I know to change my links
@@johnbeedham3010 how many times have you open your links and how many years since then?
@@dr.science_0177 usually if my quick link breaks and then my chain is broken or when my chain is past the wear limit, then I replace my chain and quick link, or if the quick link breaks then I just get a new one but also some brands quick links are designed to be reusable and some not but even the non reusable ones you can reuse
He says add X # of links + a quick link...and then proceeds to count each pivot point as a link. Keep your terminology correct. Without the graphic showing that you meant pivot points, one would have the chain too long. 12-speed full suspension says "5-6 links", but you can't HAVE an even number of links with the way Doddy was counting them. If you count links as pivot points, an even number of them has you breaking the chain in the wrong place, leaving two outer plates still half-connected.
Did anyone notice the narrow wide bottom jockey wheel.
Is he related to Calvin Jones (Park Tool) ???
Know its a couple of years old now , but did anyone else notice 16 minutes into video the chain isn't routed through the mech correctly ?
#askgmbntech Any tips for how to prepare for an emergency chain repair on the trail?
I always carry extra quick links for that very purpose. Makes chain repair quick and easy.
Hi Doddy, i want to #askgmbn about the chain that went over the biggest cog in my mtb. We were riding an xc trail but my chain got stuck between the spokes and the cogs, we were able to fix it but im not sure if the chain is still road worthy or not, what do you think and what do i need to look for?
You may have damaged your chain and/or some of your spokes. Inspect everything closely. And a bent derailleur or derailleur hanger could easily be the cause, or the result, of your chain getting stuck there. So check your derailleur too.
It also sounds like your derailleur could be out of adjustment, this video should help - gmbn.tech/5mingears
Anyone can tell me if new Shimano chains are still rusting? I was avoiding Shimano chains since 2009.
Psia Krew! The modern chain Iv noticed that sram is less prone to wear rust and collection of debris, I think the coats on them are much stronger and smoother
Yes they still rust, 11spd at least. I don’t see why they don’t finish them like kmc does. No reason a dura ace/xtr chain should not be good enough to deserve it.