I actually like how long the fight is. You're not fighting an actual person, you're basically fighting a glorified premise. Literally the fear of the unknown future taken physical form
This is a hell of a final boss. I’ve wiped twice on him. Very long, I just skipped to see how far I made it. I’ve died on his last phase twice. Can’t wait to finish it and see the ending.
Xenoblade Chronicles 1: Torn half of crazed scientist who embodies said scientist's god obsession and bears the power of a divine artifact Xenoblade Chronicles X: Robotic body with digitised human brain turned into an animal/human amalgamate monster, also mixed with an alien warlord Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Confounded AI controlling a superweapon made by aforementioned divine artifact Xenoblade Chronicles 3: AI of world-controlling machine corrupted by what is essentially its cargo and wants to prolong its own existence Man, the Xenoblade series is wacky.
Bonus: XC1FC: Foggy apparition of amalgamated humans from another dimension unconsciouscly corrupting life on Bionis. XC2TGC: The same confounded AI, in full strength, soloing the world. XC3FR: Zanza-ed version of an all-seeing AI friend who wants to kidnap everyone to his own world with it's own Endless Now with the use of his foggy friends.
I was able to take him down on the very first try. I think my secret was that all six of them were in their default forms and I controlled Noah the whole time who I gave an accessory that allowed him to revive the others. My Hero of choice was the Nopon duo.
A neat thing Monolithsoft seems to have patched, since this was uploaded, is that the actual boss music isn't interrupted by the chain attack theme now. Just played through this for the first time and it made it SO much better
Did you use a Chain Attack during the final phase of the fight? From 1:01:36 onwards? As far as I know, it doesn't play except during that portion of the fight.
I don't know. I actually liked the idea of having the Chain Attack theme playing when Z's HP is 25% and knowing full well victory is imminent. I don't get the hate for the Chain Attack hate.
This is a great fight. IMO it justifies its length because it really makes you feel that you're on your last legs facing a god you have no logical chance of beating. My only complaint is a nitpick based on how I fought him. My characters died and were revived A LOT. So every 5 seconds I'd hear "BACK TO THE ETERNAL FLOW WITH YOU, WHERE YOU BELONG!" then half a second later "YET YOU RISE, YOU WILL TASTE DESPAIR!" It got so bad I had to pause the game and take a break.
0:34 Bolearis:come on now you lot! It's time for colony 4 to show off its fangs! So what're you loafing around for? Get your asses in gear! Keves engineer:S-s-sorry boss it's just th-the engine's cooked out and won't start Bolearis:Then *kick* the mudder till it does! You gotta be firm! Really give it some elbow grease here! Keves engineer: sir that's insane this us a delicate instrument.. Bolearis: Delicate, MY ASS!! Whack it!, smack it! Show it who's sparking boss! Keves engineer: I'm telling you, you can't just kick it and... (Ferronis powering up) Bolearis:well lookee here, guess I'M the boss! Keves engineer: is this a joke? Bolearis: Allll right! Now we can come out swingin. WHO'S WITH ME?! Me: Damn bolearis, chill out dude!
@@voidoflight2420 the passage of fate is a bit vague in 3. In the original game, we know that Zanza can see the future. Z doesn't really have that ability. They may exist outside of time but they can only see the past and present. Otherwise, he would have seen that Moebius would be killed and that the party would eventually reach Origin. 3 tried to mimic 1 but failed the landing. I believe that a more down-to-earth plot would be better in that case. They threw so many plot points and concepts at the players but explained little to none in the end.
@@Izelor The entire point of 3's storytelling is to have most of the background be subtext, instead of the story explaining everything to you blatantly, so I don't feel like it failed. With the Passage of fate, I meant moreso that Z dies in the same sort of place Zanza is fought within, a tunnel of light.
@@voidoflight2420 That's what I don't like about 3. The other 2 games had symbolism too but at least the plot was clear and by the end of the game you know why 99% of the things happened like this. 3 is too open to interpretation which has led to all sorts of fan theories and explanations, something that I, personally, hate. In my opinion, a story should work effectively both with someone relevant to the series and to someone new. For example, anyone could pick up either XC1 or XC2 and enjoy the story. It takes good knowledge of the previous games to really understand what's going on in XC3. Instead of creating a new story and throwing hints here and there, they just mashed up the 2 old worlds and their characters, created a few boring villains and called it a day. Even Ouroboros is irrelevant in the end.
@@zyine2023 In the settings there's an option called "Interlink control type“ and it allows you to individually control when the other characters interlink. The numbers in the middle indicate the interlink level.
I swear, to date this has to be one of the hardest final bosses I've ever done. I reckon I must have been doing something wrong while playing this game, because I've noticed I changed characters in fights way more frequently than others.
Have you seen the final boss of Xenoblade 2? That one can wipe out your entire party with one art. And changing characters frequently is fine, actually.
It's too long in my opinion. The 1st phase with his humanoid form with the changing aoe debuffs plus seals on your abilities then breaking them 1by 1 was brilliant. The giant floating head phase was not. Wacking that giant floating head took ages and it wasn't even hard.
I think it would be less annoying if you could get a checkpoint in between and if you could skip cutscenes. Though maybe they didnt do it since the 2nd phase is already buggy enough as it is.
@@Amitlu they should patch that in. It certainly is possible because the game has an autosave feature. Probably after the cutscenes. And make the cutscenes skipable as well. Worst boss design in terms of pacing in my opinion. I'd rather keep on redoing sister friede's 3 phase boss fight in dark souls than redo the fight with Z lol.
Moebius were created from the fear everyone felt for the future. Moebius' goal was to bring stability and certainty to tame that fear. Of course, the way they went about it wasn't ideal.
most annoying fight. not because he's difficult or anything, no, but you see thousands of cutscenes. you have to beat him again and again and again. I just wanted this fight to be over. it was made into a much , MUCH longer fight than neccesary
"Where you shall you rise, you WILL TASte dEspAir"
I actually like how long the fight is. You're not fighting an actual person, you're basically fighting a glorified premise. Literally the fear of the unknown future taken physical form
This is a hell of a final boss. I’ve wiped twice on him. Very long, I just skipped to see how far I made it. I’ve died on his last phase twice. Can’t wait to finish it and see the ending.
13:35 "let the stage of- you defy me..." great timing with that tachyon slash there
How have I never noticed that. 😂
NOW STARLIGHT KICK! OUCH!
This is Viserys’ actor right? Damn he’s got a sexy voice
The biggest surprise I encountered playing this game is that i can actually see Moebius’s side in all of this, that in a way Z is right
Z has a point, not the same thing as being right ... but his position is understandable, and one you can easily see yourself agreeing.
Xenoblade Chronicles 1: Torn half of crazed scientist who embodies said scientist's god obsession and bears the power of a divine artifact
Xenoblade Chronicles X: Robotic body with digitised human brain turned into an animal/human amalgamate monster, also mixed with an alien warlord
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Confounded AI controlling a superweapon made by aforementioned divine artifact
Xenoblade Chronicles 3: AI of world-controlling machine corrupted by what is essentially its cargo and wants to prolong its own existence
Man, the Xenoblade series is wacky.
Psychopathic even... give me more
Bonus:
XC1FC: Foggy apparition of amalgamated humans from another dimension unconsciouscly corrupting life on Bionis.
XC2TGC: The same confounded AI, in full strength, soloing the world.
XC3FR: Zanza-ed version of an all-seeing AI friend who wants to kidnap everyone to his own world with it's own Endless Now with the use of his foggy friends.
I was able to take him down on the very first try. I think my secret was that all six of them were in their default forms and I controlled Noah the whole time who I gave an accessory that allowed him to revive the others. My Hero of choice was the Nopon duo.
I see I’ll try this then
Waiting until the final moment to unleash the Chain Attack music again was pretty smooth from the game.
Agreed.
"It's because it amuses me!" ~ Zed
"TEAR. THIS. MONSTER. DOWN!!!" ~ me
You're not the only one here pal 😅
A neat thing Monolithsoft seems to have patched, since this was uploaded, is that the actual boss music isn't interrupted by the chain attack theme now. Just played through this for the first time and it made it SO much better
Did you use a Chain Attack during the final phase of the fight? From 1:01:36 onwards? As far as I know, it doesn't play except during that portion of the fight.
I don't know. I actually liked the idea of having the Chain Attack theme playing when Z's HP is 25% and knowing full well victory is imminent.
I don't get the hate for the Chain Attack hate.
Something that I noticed is that if you look into the green aura-thing in the Y part, you can see actual human faces.
Black trenchcoat, silverish long hair, repeatedly talks about this pear 🍐
_Yup definitely no Sephiroth copy_
Meanwhile, he’s an Ultima copy:
Who has Ultima’s VA too.
“humans desired can be… likened to the river following. Humanity yearns for it. The endless now… that is why I’m here to find” -Z
"The War and The Pain.... It's not because you're here to find.... You're here to repeat the Cycle of Pain from the Past"
This is a great fight. IMO it justifies its length because it really makes you feel that you're on your last legs facing a god you have no logical chance of beating.
My only complaint is a nitpick based on how I fought him. My characters died and were revived A LOT. So every 5 seconds I'd hear "BACK TO THE ETERNAL FLOW WITH YOU, WHERE YOU BELONG!" then half a second later "YET YOU RISE, YOU WILL TASTE DESPAIR!" It got so bad I had to pause the game and take a break.
0:34 Bolearis:come on now you lot!
It's time for colony 4 to show off its fangs! So what're you loafing around for? Get your asses in gear!
Keves engineer:S-s-sorry boss it's just th-the engine's cooked out and won't start
Bolearis:Then *kick* the mudder till it does! You gotta be firm! Really give it some elbow grease here!
Keves engineer: sir that's insane this us a delicate instrument..
Bolearis: Delicate, MY ASS!!
Whack it!, smack it! Show it who's sparking boss!
Keves engineer: I'm telling you, you can't just kick it and...
(Ferronis powering up)
Bolearis:well lookee here, guess I'M the boss!
Keves engineer: is this a joke?
Bolearis: Allll right! Now we can come out swingin. WHO'S WITH ME?!
Me: Damn bolearis, chill out dude!
Anyone else notice the man dies in a similar way to how the Xenoblade 1 final boss died?
Zanza was cut in half by Shulk. Z got kamikazed by M and N.
@@Izelor and yet both died in a similar place, since Z became a bootleg version of the passage of fate.
@@voidoflight2420 the passage of fate is a bit vague in 3. In the original game, we know that Zanza can see the future. Z doesn't really have that ability. They may exist outside of time but they can only see the past and present. Otherwise, he would have seen that Moebius would be killed and that the party would eventually reach Origin. 3 tried to mimic 1 but failed the landing. I believe that a more down-to-earth plot would be better in that case. They threw so many plot points and concepts at the players but explained little to none in the end.
@@Izelor The entire point of 3's storytelling is to have most of the background be subtext, instead of the story explaining everything to you blatantly, so I don't feel like it failed.
With the Passage of fate, I meant moreso that Z dies in the same sort of place Zanza is fought within, a tunnel of light.
@@voidoflight2420 That's what I don't like about 3. The other 2 games had symbolism too but at least the plot was clear and by the end of the game you know why 99% of the things happened like this. 3 is too open to interpretation which has led to all sorts of fan theories and explanations, something that I, personally, hate. In my opinion, a story should work effectively both with someone relevant to the series and to someone new. For example, anyone could pick up either XC1 or XC2 and enjoy the story. It takes good knowledge of the previous games to really understand what's going on in XC3. Instead of creating a new story and throwing hints here and there, they just mashed up the 2 old worlds and their characters, created a few boring villains and called it a day. Even Ouroboros is irrelevant in the end.
what is that icon at 50:00 never seen it, is it something that i missed to unlock?
What icon?
@@AntiQuaz idk there are icons with your party characters and in the middle there are levels that goes from 1 to 3
@@zyine2023 In the settings there's an option called "Interlink control type“ and it allows you to individually control when the other characters interlink. The numbers in the middle indicate the interlink level.
@@AntiQuaz thank you so much👍
@@zyine2023 No problem!
Man I love Xenoblade 3
Same!
I swear, to date this has to be one of the hardest final bosses I've ever done. I reckon I must have been doing something wrong while playing this game, because I've noticed I changed characters in fights way more frequently than others.
Have you seen the final boss of Xenoblade 2? That one can wipe out your entire party with one art.
And changing characters frequently is fine, actually.
Definitely the best final boss and ending in the series or any series.
Hell yeah Xemnas can suck it!!!!!
I'm so glad you enjoyed it ☺️
It's too long in my opinion. The 1st phase with his humanoid form with the changing aoe debuffs plus seals on your abilities then breaking them 1by 1 was brilliant. The giant floating head phase was not. Wacking that giant floating head took ages and it wasn't even hard.
I think it would be less annoying if you could get a checkpoint in between and if you could skip cutscenes. Though maybe they didnt do it since the 2nd phase is already buggy enough as it is.
@@Amitlu they should patch that in. It certainly is possible because the game has an autosave feature. Probably after the cutscenes. And make the cutscenes skipable as well. Worst boss design in terms of pacing in my opinion. I'd rather keep on redoing sister friede's 3 phase boss fight in dark souls than redo the fight with Z lol.
n and m's death got me
1:23:07 I completely didn’t understand this part Noah 🤨
Moebius were created from the fear everyone felt for the future. Moebius' goal was to bring stability and certainty to tame that fear. Of course, the way they went about it wasn't ideal.
@ it make sense now, but I don’t understand why with the killing and stuffs
@@spike2623Agree 😕
The battle that dethroned Xemnas as a final boss
Eeer no lmao
Xemnas is easy
So here is a little fun fact the Japanese voice from Z is the same voice actor
Edit sorry my mistake I it was Ansem (seeker of darkness)
I respectfully disagree
Completely different kind of gameplay.
29:49 ost?
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1:22:19 Finish him 🫡
So we basically got Z light in FF16.
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u will taste this pear
you defy me
"The curtain... falls."
1:20:49 they couldn't though
I’m on this fight RN laying it on hard mode and I think I’ll lower the difficulty. I’m lvl 76 and I cannot beat it😢
Better bring some healers.
They should add routes to xenoblade like pacifist, genocide, etc that would be interesting
How would that work?
I think adding bad and good endings would be more fitting
Im kinda disappointed when i fight this guy with character that level 99
most annoying fight.
not because he's difficult or anything, no, but you see thousands of cutscenes.
you have to beat him again and again and again.
I just wanted this fight to be over.
it was made into a much , MUCH longer fight than neccesary