I studied the Bible in the Baptist Church and because of that the Catholic traditions made PERFECT sense to me as the whole truth. So. The opposite of what he said. And explains why Catholics who have studied are the ones who do NOT leave.
I think they leave because they don’t know it. They never dove deep into apologetics and learning WHY we believe what we do. Now, there are some who are leaving the church who are really just leave religion in general who probably “hate it” because they hate any belief system. But as for Catholics who become Protestant? I’m telling you, it’s mostly nominal Catholics who didn’t really study the faith. I’m just telling you from experience if you do the whole thing makes sense. So if you understand the whole picture of Christianity in Catholicism why would you leave that for a half truth in the Protestant Church? I’ll use the Eucharist for example. If you’ve studied and you know we have good reasons to believe Jesus comes to us to be our spiritual food in Holy Communion, and that all early Christians understood this and believed it, why in the world would you leave and go where communion is symbolic?
@@GratiaPrima_ hi there, former Catholic here of 55yrs until our dear Lord remove the scales from my eyes like in the case of Paul, and I received the gift of TRUE faith! I know alllll about the Catholic system- and the false gospel it taught. I makes me so sad because I love Catholics who are my family and friends BUT, I chose Christ and His Holy Word. The teachings of the Roman Catholic Church has not changed because it can’t- it has proclaimed itself infallible. I’m just here to worn people of this and not let their PRIDE in a religion send them to eternal death. I can recom listening to Mike Gendron and also John MacArthur on Roman Catholic teachings on you tube. That is if you really want the truth. Bless you all.
Catholics believe we are saved by grace through faith. Where works enter the equation is that we are expected to not only accept the free gift of faith, which cannot be earned and is bestowed by the grace of God, but also *work* to maintain our life in that grace. We are expected to do good works in order to maintain our faith, but we do not believe that any amount of good works can *earn* saving faith. In other words, we cooperate with the grace we are given by God for our salvation.
Indeed. Even better, we love another with people on the inside. I believe my heart that Jesus really did established the one, true, holy, & apostolic Catholic Church. With no doubt, for some reason. You should learn more about it by going in a website called Catholic Answers.
@@MenacingRabbit I love this argument. It shows the ignorance of a Protestant. The Catholic Church Baptises and he is saying that we are not Christian because we Baptise. Can I please get a well thought out argument on why we aren't Christian vs. garbage like this?
I’m a Christian today, not in spite of the Catholic Church’s teaching, but rather BECAUSE of the Catholic Church’s teaching. I love Jesus and I love His Church!
This is laughable. I can point to many people in every century since 33 AD that were Catholic. They believed in regenerative baptism, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, a hierarchical Church with the bishop of Rome as the head. When I was a Baptist I couldn’t find anyone that resembled my beliefs until the 16th century. The Bible is a Catholic book. We canonized it in the Councils of Rome, Carthage and Hippo. I don’t need anyone in this world to tell me that I’m a Christian.
Why isn't Jesus starting the catholic church in the Bible. Jesus is not a catholic. He is a Jew. He is King of the Jews. Jesus didn't start the catholic church. That is a lie straight from hell. Satan started the catholic church, with a lie. Satan supports the catholic with lies. There is no truth in the devil. There is no truth in the catholic church. satan runs the show. Jesus died once for your sins. Stop doubting and believe
You are catholic. Catholics and Christians believe different things. The Christians put their Faith in Jesus. Catholics denounce Jesus. His death for the atonement of sin is not enough. The catholic religion wants you to trust them, instead of trusting God and His Word. Catholics are not Christians
One thing that a lot of Protestants do not know about is that in 1999, the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation signed a joint document stating that salvation is by grace through faith. What Catholics need to realize about Protestants is that they do not believe that you get saved by saying a prayer. What Protestants need to realize about Catholics is that they do not believe you can work your way into heaven.
I have never been so distressed by anything as hearing that Catholics are not considered Christians!!! WHAT??? As a child, I atteneded the Baptist church with my family, but honestly, never felt 'at home.' There was always a preacher yelling and pounding his fist on the podium, preaching hellfire and damnation, which, as a child scared me to death! After I started dating my husband, when I was 18, who was a Catholic, I began attending Mass with him. From the first time I walked into the Catholic Church, I felt a sense of peace, like I belonged. There was a quiet reverence, not like a social gathering in the Baptist church. On the altar, at the front and center of the church, there was Jesus, hanging on the Cross. There was no question as to why you were there. The Baptist church either had a choir or a baptismal. Christ is THE center of the church. HE is the only one I worship. Yes, we hold Mary in high esteem because God chose her as the mother of His Son Jesus, but I have never 'worshipped' her or any saint...never have and never will. My faith grew stronger and I was actually 'saved' after becoming a Catholic! So, anyone says that we're not Christian had better get their facts straight! Besides, the Catholic Church was the first Church. All protestant religions broke off of the Catholic church because they thought 'their' way was better!
Linda, Actually, I was you in reverse. I was actually away from the Church for many years (40+). I returned about 7 Years ago. Long story. I'm not saying that it was all bad...when I was away from the Church. I attended a small Non-Denominational Christian Church for about a year. A friend of mine is not Catholic. She believed a lot of the lies that were spread about the Catholic Church. Slowly, she has come to understand the Church and now defends it when she hears lies, such as the lie that "Catholics don't read the Bible.".....She knows better now. You have probably heard it said that the weak Catholics leave the Church....The Non-Catholics Churches get the weak Catholics. The Catholic Church gets the strong Christian Non-Catholics. That does seem to ring true. I was weak. Yet, I made a point of learning a lot about the Catholic Church. Thanks for your defending the Catholic Faith!!
@Sheist MCE Who is OP? HOW did she prove that Catholics don't read the Bible? Also, images are not forbidden in scripture. You really should read beyond the Verses in Exodus, the verses that forbid graven images. Later, it shows us how images of God can be made. I do know that there is a Verse in Deuteronomy, which explains why representations of God cannot be made. I'll have to look up the Verse. Later, it does show us that images of God can be made. The Verses in Exodus, that forbade the creation of graven images, is about the pagans. The pagans used to create images of things such as animals, like eagles and bulls, etc, and other created images such as the sun and the moon. The pagans created those images and worshipped them. God did not want His people to act like the pagans. He knew that they would be tempted to act like the pagans. He knew their sinful nature. He knew that they would do that very thing with the Bronze Serpent, also known as the fiery serpent. Again, there are verses beyond the verses in Exodus, that do show us that images of God can be made. I am not talking about the verses that tell us of Moses and the Bronze Serpent. Let me know, I can explain it.
This co-opting of the label “Christian” by heirs of a 16th Cent. heresy, and then the boomeranging back at the original “Christian” church with the loaded question “Are THEY Christian?” is unintentionally, and humorously, ironic
Ben Sommer Hello - If you read the scriptures- Jesus asked all his apostles- whom do you say that I am ? Peter was the first to recognize him as as Lord. If you keep reading the scriptures- Jesus told Peter when speaking to him - get behind Me satan.’ He did not give the keys to Peter to the kingdom of heaven alone/ but to ALL who believe in him and treat him as Lord. If you believe that Francis or any pope is the vicor of Christ- you’ve fallen into satans lies. Remember that God is no respector of persons- read read the scriptures- if you keep any human as a substitute or even pray to the dead -which is forbidden in the scriptures- you will be guilty of the scriptures.
@David Israel I left it at "pls be charitable" and decided to disengage, since I didn't detect an openness on your part to dialogue. But sure, I'll respond one more time. Charity, per the catechism is: "The divine virtue by which we love God above all things for His own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God". Its embedded in many prayers & traces clearly back to NT scripture. Caritas (latin) & Agapē (greek) are often interchangeable, and translated as "Love" and "Charity", e.g. in KJB, Douay-Rheims etc. As to confused or diabolical or stupid priests...I'll one-up you: perhaps the majority of bishops in the west are thoroughly corrupt or cowardly. Men are often (and usually these days) wicked. But if you intend to offer that as evidence that the Church is the false one, then that's kinda an ad-hominem attack. Its also an ancient heresy (Donatism) to assert that church teaching and sacraments are invalid if not governed & performed by saints. Good luck finding any human institution that isn't rife with corruption. Many leave the catholic church because of its members' corruption, mistakenly believing that if only they can find a home with good people, then THAT'S the church God intended. This is one reason why protestant denominations proliferate: "Pastor Jim is teaching wrong, let's go start a new church" Lastly - your violent bent...I get the passion. We ARE the Church Militant - the body of living humans struggling on earth to achieve salvation and heaven. The saints in Heaven are the Church Triumphant. So - militancy is a way of life for us earnest believers. And though there's a valid approach to worldly, physical conflict ("just war") - the true militancy we in the church are called to is a spiritual one. Mentioning in two consecutive youtube comments that you'd like to kill or punch someone out doesn't show to me that you think or act from christ-centered, righteous indignation
Oh how I wish Blessed Cardinal Newman were alive today to debate this guy. If the debate were like a fifteen round fight, this "theologian" would be down on the mat and the fight would be over by the end of the first round. Been a Protestant; I am now a very happy and proud Catholic. This guy does not see the deepness of the Catholic faith but then he's only taken a very superficial look/read as his statements bare this out. Oh well, he's a Christian too. I just wish he'd quit questioning my Christianity. OK you Protestants here's the deal. You guys began in 1517. The Catholic Church began 33 A.D. and that is AN HISTORICAL FACT!
Scott Hahn or any of the CA guys would destroy this guy as well. The joke is they are using a Catholic book to try to disprove Catholicism. Doesn't work.
Why not listen to Dr. Scott Hahn: a great protestant preacher who converted to the Catholic Church & now a great Catholic theologian & preàcher!😇😇😇 Live Truth! Live Catholic!
Have you listened to Bartholomew F Brewer: a former catholic priest who was saved by grace from his dead religion. Has a wonderful book called 'Pilgrimage from Rome' would recommend reading it. Live Truth! Live Jesus! ❤
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Not all Christians understand that the Church established by Jesus Christ was the Catholic Church. Some are of the remarkable belief that there was no "Church" and that the early Christians all just got baptized, read the Bible, and prayed together, and were "saved." Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church and commissioned the Apostle Peter as the person responsible for it after his Ascension. (Matthew 16:16-20). And we know Peter was recognized as such and that he fulfilled this role. (Mk 1:36; Lk 9:28,32; Acts 2:37; Acts 3:6-12; Acts 9:40; Acts 20:28; 1 Cor 15:4-8; 1 Cor 9:5; 1 Pet 5:2; . . . among a great many others.)
Why would Christ start a church specific to a region and a culture when he came to save all ? Isn't the kingdom invisible according to the word why would it be a building ?wouldn't that make it less accessible less "Freely" Given Wouldn't that create dividing lines as it has what about the orthodox schism what about all the traditions piled on over the centuries that aren't directly instructed in the word , what about new doctrine like the catechism? The bible says do not put your trust in man in multiple places , a theme isiah covers. Perhaps the church was built than in Antioch that was the first time people called themselves Christians in Acts , though I do not see any traces of extra curricular catholic practice in the book of acts ? So has man come up with the rest?
@@snowwhitethegypsy3842 Using your logic why didn't God the Father send many sons all over the world? You accept Jesus appeared in human form at one time period and place but refuse to believe Jesus established one Church with one leader over it - Petras, the rock - Peter.
@@wade998 ........Yes, more than 40 thousand MANmade, NEW-AGED and FALSE churches like this SDA, which was founded by the Whites. Jesus warned us about their coming during his life on earth ebcause he KNEW their coming, teaching AGAINST his teachings. You can tell their FALSENESS because they NO LONGER observe that ONE and ONLY signature teaching of Jesus which is the celebration of the......MASS. ALL of these MANmade churches that exist nowadays have that good-to-the-ears, feel-good-teachings as their way to entice, lure and tempt christians to join their MANmade church. We have to remember that ALL of Jesus teachings were, are and NEVER be easy, NEVER be good-to-the-ears and NEVER be-feel-good teachings because ALL of them are meant to be HARD, to enter that NARROW GATE, where he also walked through, agate filled with sufferings, persecutions, trials, tribulations, etc.etc because the rewards are NOT here on earth ( that's fro the WIDE GATE WALKERS ) , but the rewards await for the NARROW GATE WALKERS in heaven. When Jesus says.......take up your CROSS and FOLLOW ME, he meant them EVERY SINGLE WORDS OF THAT ORDER, to follow his life,, to LIVE, ACT, SPEAK and DO just like what he DID during his life on earth. THESE FALSE churches are teachings the complete OPPOSITE, which are ALL leading to the WIDE GATE and sadly MILLIONS are falling for their TRAP. those who are FAITHFUL believers, STAY inside Jesus ONE and ONLY church.....the CATHOLIC CHURCH.
Let me ask this question: are Protestants Christian? Is someone who believes in faith alone biblical? As a Catholic I know what the Church teaches in this regard. And there are PLENTY of protestants sitting in the pews of their church every week who never read their bible and know next to nothing of the bible and Church history, it isn't just Catholics. I don't need him telling me if I'm Christian or not.
@@nonya7954 thats not the point. Catholics rely on the church to interpret it for you. The Bible clearly says we have the spirit for interpretation. Of course you will disagree!!
@@edalbanese6310 Given the "interpretations" of the Bible by the JWs, Mormons, Branch Dividians, and on and on don't you think there's a reason why Matthew 16:18 doesn't say "Everyone who's heard my teachings go out and spread them according to your own interpretation. I offer no command structure post resurrection." Jesus created a single Church on earth with a single leader for a reason.
Quick answer to save four minutes: Y-E-S We believe Jesus died for our sins and that He is the son of God - Sincerely a Cradle Baptist/Protestant who converted to Catholicism
@@Stefan-X24 you misunderstand catholic theology we don't believe that Mary to catholics is the mother of God in the sense that Jesus is God, so it makes sense, to me at least, that she is sacred but not divine
@@craveb7653 She must be devine because she is co-mediatrix with Christ. She is the one that dispenses mercy to us (not Christ) according to catholic dogma.
Wow a lot of people here bashing Catholicism.99% of them don't even really understand what Catholics believe if they did they would truly convert. But that's okay because Christ did say that we would be persecuted. The Catholic church has been around for two thousand years. How many years has protestantism been around. I think you got my point
@Asaph Vapor Peter is the Rock on which the Church is Built Mark 3:16; John 1:42 - Jesus renames Simon “Kepha” in Aramaic which literally means “rock.” This was an extraordinary thing for Jesus to do, because “rock” was not even a name in Jesus’ time. Jesus did this, not to give Simon a strange name, but to identify his new status among the apostles. When God changes a person’s name, He changes their status. Gen. 17:5; 32:28; 2 Kings 23:34; Acts 9:4; 13:9 - for example, in these verses, we see that God changes the following people’s names and, as a result, they become special agents of God: Abram to Abraham; Jacob to Israel, Eliakim to Jehoiakim, Saul to Paul. 2 Sam. 22:2-3, 32, 47; 23:3; Psalm 18:2,31,46; 19:4; 28:1; 42:9; 62:2,6,7; 89:26; 94:22; 144:1-2 - in these verses, God is also called “rock.” Hence, from these verses, non-Catholics often argue that God, and not Peter, is the rock that Jesus is referring to in Matt. 16:18. This argument not only ignores the plain meaning of the applicable texts, but also assumes words used in Scripture can only have one meaning. This, of course, is not true. For example: 1 Cor. 3:11 - Jesus is called the only foundation of the Church, and yet in Eph. 2:20, the apostles are called the foundation of the Church. Similarly, in 1 Peter 2:25, Jesus is called the Shepherd of the flock, but in Acts 20:28, the apostles are called the shepherds of the flock. These verses show that there are multiple metaphors for the Church, and that words used by the inspired writers of Scripture can have various meanings. Catholics agree that God is the rock of the Church, but this does not mean He cannot confer this distinction upon Peter as well, to facilitate the unity He desires for the Church. Matt. 16:18 - Jesus said in Aramaic, you are “Kepha” and on this “Kepha” I will build my Church. In Aramaic, “kepha” means a massive stone, and “evna” means little pebble. Some non-Catholics argue that, because the Greek word for rock is “petra”, that “Petros” actually means “a small rock”, and therefore Jesus was attempting to diminish Peter right after blessing him by calling him a small rock. Not only is this nonsensical in the context of Jesus’ blessing of Peter, Jesus was speaking Aramaic and used “Kepha,” not “evna.” Using Petros to translate Kepha was done simply to reflect the masculine noun of Peter. Moreover, if the translator wanted to identify Peter as the “small rock,” he would have used “lithos” which means a little pebble in Greek. Also, Petros and petra were synonyms at the time the Gospel was written, so any attempt to distinguish the two words is inconsequential. Thus, Jesus called Peter the massive rock, not the little pebble, on which He would build the Church. (You don’t even need Matt. 16:18 to prove Peter is the rock because Jesus renamed Simon “rock” in Mark 3:16 and John 1:42!) Christ appoints Peter the first pope and the Gates of hell will not prevail against it
Asaph Vapor The church is one The church is forever The church is visible The church is hierarchical The church is the kingdom of God on earth The church is Truth The church is our teacher The church is the bride of Christ The church is the mystical body of Christ The church is dynastic The church is holy The church is apostolic The church is a mystery The church is Catholic The one True Church is The Roman Catholic Church
The Catholics themselves do not seem to understand what they are; how they came about. Simply, Rome from which RCC came about was a kind of political/military power at the time of Christ and when they could not suppress Christianity adopted the policy of dilution instead by trying to mix paganism to it. The result of which remained RCC of today. However, God has been preserving/shielding the body of Christ from corruption. The foundation of God stands sure bearing this seal God knows those that are his, let everyone that names of God depart from iniquity. So, that's it very briefly.
Such a silly response and followed by an even sillier reply; Go back and listen around the 3 minute mark. You both missed the point! It’s about our relationship with God through Christ (thus the Christianity). By grace through Faith in Christ alone as the scriptures teach. All the man made denominations are but a mere balancing act between clarification or distraction.
@@KresimirKralj Sorry, your wrong. They were called Christians, not Roman Catholics. Christians, non-denominational Christ loving Christians, we’re meeting in house churches while Jesus was still alive and that is still true today. I’ll be praying for your brother. Much love
@@drummerhq2263 You may pray for me as I may pray for you brother but the truth of the matter is that the Catholic teachings began since Christ. We kept that tradition alive and the other Christianity that came after is man-made but I always say doesn’t matter how you believe as long as you believe.
Constantine created a bunch of rules for the people in his city to follow because it was illegal to not be a “Christian “ so many non believers were entered and needed rules to make them seem holy. The. The Catholic Church started distorting the word of god and extorting it’s people and the Catholic Church has done this every since. It is not a church at all but a den of vipers.
@@jaredhall5886 Are you saying that Constantine Started the Catholic Church. He didn't. Since it looks like you most likely believe that Constantine started the Catholic Church.....You do believe that, don't you?....Prove it. Yet, IF you do believe it, don't just say that he started it...Prove it. Be specific with the details, please. Also, NO verse in scripture proves what you say. Prove it, please, first by proving that Constantine started the Church....and prove it with scripture, please. I guarantee that you can't. IF you think that you can, go for it.
As a very passive Catholic, I ask you - Who would you rather have interpreting the Bible, the Church that compiled it and has been working on it for 2000 years, or a televangelist from rural America?
@@williamgullett5911 mate, all churches do to some extent.. at least the Catholic Church is always on the spotlight and has to publically apologize and show restraint every now and then. I don't think old school (or even modern day) Puritans or Calvinists can lecture anyone on using Scripture to abuse and manipulate their communities. "Plant the seed, brother in financial need. It's not like 100 USD will pay your rent anyway." Please..
@@6969smurfy true, and unless/until you eradicate religion, it will keep on happening. Churches are man-made and man-managed. People of faith should follow something for the general ideology or message, not for poorly translated words in a book or for the guidance of someone with a funny hat.. lol
A Christian is someone who believes in Jesus Christ (that he is God) and follows his teachings. I believe Catholics believe in Jesus and they follow His teachings. We all try to follow Jesus's teachings exactly and faithfully (we try to emulate him) and we will ALL inevitably fail in one way or another. Only God knows who is going to heaven!
Naw if your praying to mary your not a christain, exodus 22 says God is a jealous God and will not share his glory with no one, he has always condemned the praying to anyone but him
@@kingslade414 anti catholic propaganda doesn't decide who's christian or not . it never has and never will .Every follower of Christ is a christian . Zealots can speak all they want it won't alter that fact
I love how all these anti-Catholics assume things about the church when they’ve never been Catholic themselves and never actually gone in depth into what the church teaches and it’s history it’s hilarious
JEROME BURNETT you’re mistaken by the definition of church you’re thinking of only the earthly church in which the pope is the representative of Christ on earth there are three churches the church suffering the church triumphant and the church militant the pope is the earthly leader of the church militant and that’s it Christ is the overhead of the church and is acknowledge so by all Catholics and if not they are wrong in doing so
@@matthewbianco7417 Yes, please base your arguments off scripture. Jesus is the head of the church, not the pope. Where in scripture does it say that there are three churches? Where did Jesus ever even say that the position of pope was needed? Never. If Peter was indeed the first pope of the church, installed by Jesus himself, maybe he would have mentioned it in either of his books? Seems something quite important not to be missed, if it were true. But indeed it is not. All I can say is look back to scripture, and you will find truth.
Its really sad that this “Christian” comment section looks just like any other. Snarky and argumentative like the world. I was hoping to reason on here but it all looks a bit too much like the rest of RUclips.
The elephant in the room is the fact that for 1500 years the Christian church was catholic. So according to this line of thinking there were Christian’s at the time of Jesus and then they disappeared for a while and then popped back up with Luther. Either that or their were invincibly ignorant Catholics. But why would the Holy Spirit not guide the church into true doctrine for so long? Especially to the extent this man is talking about. He’s basically saying for most of church history a majority of Christian’s were actually damned because they didn’t believe in doctrines that didn’t even exist yet like scripture alone or faith alone. I’m not a Catholic. I’m not even sure if I’m a Protestant. I’m struggling with it but I’m not going to play bias with this. I’m going to investigate and seek the truth.
TL;DR: Yes, yes they are Christianity is eternal. It is not a religion that just came up after the year 33 AD, it's always been here. As long as we know that God is eternal, then a faith in him and his existence must also be. So no, it wasn't founded by Christ's apostles. You built your case on a fallacy, but for the sake of clarification, let's go with it. The Catholic Church isn't the apostles or the only church that came from the apostles. They were the messengers to Christ's teachings, and they didn't all go to Rome. Moreover, contrary to common belief, the Catholic Church was not always around. At all. When we were first called Christians in Antioch, there was no Catholic or Orthodox Church. In fact, it was around 500 years later that there was a Catholic Church. In the year 451 AD, a council was held in Chalcedon to dispute a certain heresy that had arisen. After the council, the Egyptian and some other churches disagreed with the decision, and became the non-Chalcedonians. We later became the Orthodox Churches. The Chalcedonians, who are now the Catholics (and who the Protestants eventually came from) agreed with the decision. Moreover, Jesus clearly stated that we need Baptism to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. He never mentioned a specific type of Baptism, nor did he ever mention a Baptism into a certain sect of Christianity (as he certainly knew the Church would divide). Therefore, all Baptized are Christians, regardless of what they believe, or what Church they belong to. If you have any thoughts or arguments, please go ahead and tell me. At the end, one of us will walk away knowing more than they did. Also sorry for the wall of text lol.
I’m not sure why this is in my recommended, since I’m a catholic 😂 The argument that Catholics aren’t Christians has always felt really silly to me, considering historically not only did Catholicism come before Protestant branches of Christianity, but Catholics have been considered Christians for over two thousand years now, seeing as the first pope was literally an apostle. It doesn’t matter to me if someone is Protestant or catholic (or orthodox, for that matter) as long as we care for others and love as well as we can.
You claim that it doesn't matter to you if someone is a Protestant or catholic ( or, orthodox). I agree with you, to a point. A person's beliefs DO matter. I do know that some Non-Catholics deny the Trinity, call it evil and pagan. That it is NOT. The majority of main stream Christians accept the Trinity. Some accept the idea of ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, OSAS, as it is sometimes called. OSAS is right from Satan. A person's beliefs matter. I am sure that you are aware of that. I am Catholic. I often defend the faith. Not all Catholics believe the way that they should. The ones who support abortion, for example....We can't put all Catholics in one group, or all Non-Catholics in one group, saying that they are all the same. We need to look at all as individuals. We do need to care for others, love each other. Yet, again, we need to know a person's beliefs. I do know that I would not want to be in the shoes of the ones who deny the Trinity, who bad mouth the Three in One...especially on Judgement day. Just a thought.
@@marymac7605 it does matter when the trappings of tradition exceed the athority of scripture and the itching of mans ears. I am a follower of christ aand his organizational church as outlined in the book of acts and the BiBLE in general which I believe to be true, athoritative and complete for todays christian free of mans tradition .
@@howardzane572 Explain just how tradition exceeds the authority of scripture. Not all tradition is good. The Bible tells us that. Yet, the Bible does tell us to go by tradition. By tradition, I am referring to SACRED TRADITION, which are the teachings of Jesus Himself. In the very early years of Christianity, they did not have a complete Bible. The early Christians did not go by the idea of going ONLY by the Bible. The New Testament was not available for quite some time. Some of the early Christians met Jesus and heard Him preach. Some heard the gospel of Jesus from the apostles and some of the early Christians, such as Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp. Since the Catholic Church started....they could not go by the idea of going by BIBLE ALONE. How could they? They went by the Old Testaments, parts of it.....AND by SACRED TRADITION, the words of Jesus Himself!! Jesus gave the apostles the Holy Spirit to guide them and to guide the Church. The Holy Spirit teaches the Church, guides it to this day. The Holy Spirit has guided the Church to understand things better, to understand HIM, to understand the Trinity, the Three divine persons in One God. Explain just how the Catholic Church exceeds scripture? As I explained before...ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, or OSAS is not at all Biblical. That exceeds scripture. Many verses speak against the idea of 0SAS, prove it to be false. Also, the Trinity is Biblical. Some demean the Trinity, call it evil and pagan. That it is NOT. The Churches that act like life does not start at conception, that abortion is OK..it is not. Acting like same-sex marriages are OK....That all exceeds scripture. I believe we have conversed before. Do you only look at the Catholic Church, or, do you look at other Churches, too? I can't recall. I do know that there are Verses that some use , to speak against the Catholic Church.....many of those verses should not be used in that way. Again, please give me examples of traditions that you claim exceed scripture, and I will do my best to answer you on that. Just remember that not all Catholics understand their own faith, and may not be able to defend it, the same way that not all Non-Catholics can defend their faith. Thanks
@@marymac7605 ok lets assume that you are correct that the catholic church was here first what has hppened over the centuries that it has become the non biblical apostate church that we know today
@@howardzane572 It has NOT become the non Biblical apostate Church that....WE know today? You may believe that. I don't. Prove your points by using scripture. NO verse says that the Catholic Church is the non biblical apostate Church. For one thing, I trust in Jesus' promises. He did promise that Hell would never prevail over His Church. THAT is why I do not run the Church down the way that some do.....IF it really was here first.... ( It was)......It would not become the non biblical apostate Church. Saying that demeans Jesus, calls Him a liar. That I will never do. I trust in HIM totally. I focus more on HIM than on sinful man. Thank You
As a Catholic priest and monk, I appreciate the honesty and the tone of this response. Yes, exactly: one can only be saved by truth and not by error. It must be so since Christ alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Just as Dr Willis thinks some Catholics may have saving faith in Christ and true repentance, so also a Catholic thinks Trinitarian Protestants are indeed Christians and that (if their error and schism are not personally culpable) may indeed be saved. Truth matters. Error leads away from God, away from holiness. If evangelical Protestants consider me as a Catholic to be in error, then they should bear witness to me, to help me believe the pure gospel. If a Catholic regards Protestantism as having rejected essential truths of Christianity that are necessary for sanctification and whose denial can impede final salvation, then the Catholic should likewise witness to that conviction and help Protestants to enter into Catholic unity. This still allows for ad hoc cooperation on matters of common Christian concern. We shouldn't be shrill or insulting, but we do need to be honest with one another. Something that does puzzle me is that those who insist that Catholics are not Christian at all (given our understanding of grace and free will) do not typically apply that standard to Arminian evangelicals and to proponents of decisional regeneration and universal atonement. At the same time, most Baptists won't commit themselves to five-point Calvinism as essential doctrine, and many oppose it as damaging to the Christian mission. If that kind of diversity of opinion is accepted among Bible-believing evangelicals, then how can Catholics be non-Christian?
@@7James77 I noticed that many, maybe even all of Tim Spangler's messages have been deleted, from a lot of You Tube videos. I don't know whether he voluntarily removed them, or if he was kicked off You Tube. We used to debate a lot. He was a character. He used to deliberately pick fights with just about everyone. So, hopefully, he has stopped stalking you. Someone told me that he goes under a lot of different names. Who knows, maybe he converted to the Catholic Church?
@@7James77 True. I just noticed that many, if not all of his messages have been deleted. It would be great if he repented and returned to the Church. Thanks, and God Bless, MM
Ex-Catholic here. I never learned anything in the Catholic church. I hopped around from Catholic chruch to Catholic Church. It wasn’t for me in the end. But I can honestly say, (and I’m not speaking for anyone else but myself) I didn’t know Jesus Christ for 26 years of my life until a year ago. I accepted Jesus a few years ago and am now a non denominational Christian. Just a. Christian. Not Catholic, not Protestant, not, not Baptist. Christian.
Yes, Catholics are Christian, as we believe Jesus Christ is God who took on Flesh and laid down His life to atone for the Eternal punishment due our sins. The Difference between Catholic Christians and Protestants, is Catholic Christians believe we must do as Jesus Christ teaches, and not just have faith alone, as we must cooperate with God's saving grace and repent and bear fruit and forgive others and love one another and perservere to the end. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@ammonquitalig9077 Did Jesus Christ teach Faith alone and Scripture alone? No! Yet, regarding alleged "graven images", the Bible teaches Joshua prostrated himself before an image of the ark of the covenant. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@ammonquitalig9077 The Bible does teach many in the early Church sought the mediation and intercession of mere human beings like Peter and Paul and their prayers and shadow and handkerchiefs for miracles, and so too even today, for not even death can separate us, as the prayers of a righteous person have Great power in its effects. You are in my prayers! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@matthewbroderick8756 Jesus also never taught ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, or OSAS. OSAS is not at all Biblical. I know that you know that. Sadly, some don't. Keep up the good work in defending the Faith.
I was raised Catholic. As far as I'm concerned if someone truly believes in Jesus, good works will come naturally. If someone is doing good works to avoid hell fire then the good works they do don't come from the heart.
Exactly I've been back to the Catholic Church only for about three months being raised a cradle.I wanted to help people out not because I had to because it was a holy spirit working inside me.about a week ago I wasn't even praying but I was just thinking I would like to help somebody out and I turn into the church parking lot and what do I see. I see an elderly woman standing there with a flat tire with aJack in her hand I pulled up and said you need help and she said I was praying for somebody to come by. I truly believe that God put her there for a reason and now I called and wanted to help out at a food pantry run by the church. this normally isn't me but I know and I want to help out again not because I have to but because I want to. The holy Spirit has been guiding me my entire life but I decided recently just to sit and listen to him. He puts people and situations in your path for a reason
Key point, “ as far as I’m concerned”. God does not respect what you think rather he has given us his written word, the mind of Christ found in the Bible. The Bible is authoritative, not man or any human institution.
Of course you have to do good works by heart not forced. Some say they truly believe in jesus and yet dont even read the bible or pray or don't even go to church for years.
The Most Holy Catholic Church with the pontificate of the successor of the Apostle Peter is the only true Church, which was founded by Jesus Christ himself and to which the fullness of salvation has been entrusted. Anyone who knowingly and consistently rejects it rejects the visible body of Christ on earth and incurs the wrath of God with eternal damnation in the fires of hell.
Clear as mud. If I meet a Catholic or anybody else, for that matter, one question I ask is, How do you get to heaven. If they answer by saying you have to be baptized (or any other work), then I know they are not saved. I don't know why this is such a touchy issue. How are we supposed to preach the Word to the whole world if we don't preach the true Good News?
@@georgepierson4920 I'm guessing you are referring to John 3:5 , let me ask you something , why doesn't Jesus say baptism of water in that verse, but in all verses that pertain to water baptism they all say baptism?
There are so many commenters seeming to take delight in pointing out that catholics are not Christian. That is not the way of Christ. True Christians should pray for their brothers and sisters to seek Jesus, not ridicule, judge, and condemn them. As the video points out, Catholics can be Christian and have salvation based on their faith in and acceptance if Jesus, even if they belong to a church that doesnt align with scripture. Many protestants who call themselves Christian show no evidence of faith in Christ and will not have a place in heaven. Which is better? Let's follow Christ's teaching and the apostles' example with converting religious men and women in the 1st century. The apostles didnt condemn but respected the people's devotion, then showed them a more excellent way to salvation through the gospel of Christ alone. That is what we should all be doing whenever and wherever we have opportunity.
You hit on the key to everything, tearing down your brothers in Christ is not Christian. You understand Christ outside of religion, God bless you, go in peace brother.
Wow. As a Catholic, I had no idea people thought we weren't Christian. Yeah, I know a lot of things are different but we all believe in the same God so I didn't think people asked this question. This was kinda educational.
Autumn Wissenburg I would think that Catholics view born-agains as non-Christians. Catholics were kind of the original Christians and so everyone else is apostate.
@Bin Sam Ireneaus (189 A.D ) is shutting down Saph, BUT knowing him , he will find a way to TWIST and DenY this. The man has Ky-High Ego, even after he got shut down 4 times by 4 people.
@@seanpermann3561 It’s funny how non Catholics like to pass judgement on them, especially since The Catholic and Orthodox Churches were the only mainstream forms of Christianity for 1,500 years..
Interesting, every time that you open the scriptures, you are reading from a Catholic book, even using the very same New Testament canon as decided by late 4th century Catholics, first Bishops meeting in Rome (382 ad) and then confirmed by Bishops meeting in Hippo (393 ad) and Carthage (397 ad). This list of 27 New Testament writings out of 300+ early Christian writings is not found in scripture. Inconsistently for you, you tacitly trust in their authority to have decided the NT canon - yet your reject their decision on the Old Testament canon when they said it was 46 writings (7 said not be inspired by Father Luther who had no authority 1,100 years later). Inconsistent too, these 4th c Bishops ALL believed that through their words of consecration as priests, the bread and wine transformed into the resurrected Christ. So this raises many questions for Southern Seminary : 1. Just HOW does the Holy Spirit work, consistently or inconsistently? And what did Christ mean when he said : 2. Christ is the head of his Church. (Col 1: 18) 3. Christ''s Church is the pillar of truth (1 Tim 3: 15) 4. Christ's Church is the bulwark of truth. (1 Tim 3: 15) 5. Christ's Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known. (Eph 3: 10) 6. Christ PROMISED to lead it to ALL Truth. (Jn 16: 13) 7. Christ PROMISED that he would NEVER leave it. (Mt 28: 20) 8. Christ PROMISED that the gates of hell would not prevail (it will not teach doctrinal error) ; (Mt 16: 18) 9. Do you believe Christ was undependable and a liar as he failed repeated above, especially #6 and #8 (I hope not) ? 10. Do you believe that these 4th c Bishops - ALL Catholics - were pagans? And that you are using a (their) pagan book?
The Catholic Church has existed for two thousand years, and the oldest Protestant ones just over 500. These fundamental teachings that you speak of have existed long before any Protestant reforms, and Jesus said of this Catholic Church that he built, "The gates of hell shall not prevail against it." So then how can they be wrong, and how can the altered teachings about salvation and such be right? Does it really make sense to say that the Catholic Church, handed down from the time of Jesus and the apostles, was the one true church for 1500 years, and then suddenly it was no longer so, and its doctrines became wrong? To think that God's own Church needed human reformers to "correct" its central doctrines is quite blasphemous, if you ask me.
@JEROME BURNETT I think you need to know something about the Bible here: it was compiled _by_ the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is not a product of the scriptures like all the Protestant ones are, but rather the Bible is a product of the Catholic Church. Regarding popes, Peter was quite explicitly given authority by Jesus, who said, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on Earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in heaven." The other disciples and apostles respected his authority, as we see in the Council at Jerusalem (Acts 15). After Peter, there have always been popes in the Catholic Church in line with the apostolic succession, even in the first century. Ultimately though, you haven't answered my question, and you actually seem to have reinforced it. You say that the Catholic Church "fell away," but if it did this, then there was nothing in its place. This directly contradicts what Jesus said about his Church.
@JEROME BURNETT Again, you didn't answer my comment adequately. I said that the Catholic Church is not a product of the Bible, but I also said that the Catholic Church _compiled_ this Bible, the same Bible that the Protestant churches claim to be rooted in. So the Catholic Church cannot possibly be one such "cause of division and offenses contrary to the doctrine...," as it literally added this phrase to the collection of God's Word that is the Bible, and it formed/formalized the doctrine mentioned. And it should be noted that the "Catholic Church" is not some massive, faraway institution, but it is the community of Catholic believers under the divine guidance of the One True God. A second point that comes from this is that the Catholic Church is not a product of the catechism. First of all, this is absurd, because the first official, written catechism where Catholic doctrine could be summed up was created over a thousand years after the birth of the Church with Peter and the apostles at Pentecost. Second of all, as I said, the Catholic Church is the community of believers, guided by God through his chosen leaders (apostolic succession gives us the popes), and it is, as St. Paul says, the "mystical Body of Christ" -- NOT the sum of a set of beliefs. Finally, I would ask you, what church, if not the Catholic Church, is then the true Church, as founded by Jesus Christ? As I said in my initial comment, it doesn't make sense to say that it is any of the Protestant ones. As for a "non-denominational" community, where does Peter's role as first pope, or the role of the Sacraments, come in? Where is God's visible presence and guidance? It truly does not make sense any other way.
Deb Keo And I find it insulting that you say the Bible doesn’t come before the Catholic Church. “In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God” John 1:1 “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and TRUTH” John 1:14 The Word is the Bible and the Bible is the Word. The Word is was made flesh (Jesus) and he dwelt among us. How dare you say that your church is above Jesus who not only is human but is GOD? YOU PUT YOUR CHURCH ABOVE GOD?!? Yep, I thoroughly believe the Pope is the false prophet and the Roman Catholic Church is following his lies. It’s only a matter of time before we are in the tribulation and he begins to support the Anti-Christ. I will never bow to people who claim to be above God. I would rather lose my head.
@JEROME BURNETT the bible is our doctrine dude New Testament Canon is dictated by the Catholic One True Church since early 4th century. God didn't abandon his church for 1500 years until he sent you another saviour Martin Luther lol... So yeah drop the blasphemy
I am a Filipino Roman Catholic since I was a baby, and I have an older cousin who is a Protestant. I truly love my cousin because she was like my big sister whenever whe's around with me. I am thankful for God and Jesus that she is still part of my life and that she gave me happiness and a light within my heart :)
SICK OF RELIGION, ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. YOU CAN HAVE RELIGION BUT, DIDN'T HAVE JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE. WHEN I'M YOUNGER I DIDN'T KNOW WHY I'M WORSHIPPING MAMA MARY, AND OTHER WOODEN SAINTS AND CONFESSION TO THE PRIEST WHERE IN FACT IT'S NOT BIBLICAL THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD EXAMINE OUR FAITH IF IT'S GENUINE OR NOT. WE CANNOT EARN OUR SALVATION THROUGH OUR GOOD DEEDS, AND DEMAND TO GOD THAT WE SHOULD BE IN HEAVEN BECAUSE WE DO THIS SACRAMENTS, GOOD DEEDS, CHARITY ETC. IF WE DO THAT, JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR OUR INIQUITIES FOR NOTHING. AS the word of God is written For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
@@rebeccaanderson5626 GOD BLESS YOU. And Your Family. THE LORD JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR US. IN ORDER THAT WE CAN'T SUFFER THE WRATH OF GOD FOR OUR SINS. HE DO IT WILLING BECAUSE HE LOVE US. JOHN 3:16
@@rebeccaanderson5626 YOU CAN LAUGH OUT LOAD FOR THIS TIME BUT IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR IT'S TOO LATE THE REGRET IS ALWAYS IN THE END.
l believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord, ... I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting
@Jon Morgan Watson I was evangelical to catholic I too believe the bible was inspired by holy men spake through the Holy Ghost these where the early apostles of the Catholic Church in 1st, 2nd,3rd centuries Catholic Church put their writings together to make the bible.
You’re all wrong, the Bible consists of books from the Torah (Old Testament) and the teachings of Jesus Christ are all in the New Testament. All of these books had been found which are known as the Dead Sea Scrolls. The catholic church is just another false church leading lazy people too lazy to actually read the Bible so they decide to follow a pagan pope who wears the hat that the god Dagon wore.
@@MenacingRabbit This is wrong on so many levels i don't know where to start. The fact that the early councils decided which texts would be part of the Canon is well established. Just read the research. Concerning the Dead Sea scrolls you can actually read a lot of them on line. You will find a a lot of fragments from the Old testament and other Jewish material, but no mention of Jesus. Kind of necessary if you want to talk about Jesus, don't you think? . There is a lot of research on that, done by serious scholars, not internet punks sitting in their moms basement, look it up.
@@laurentdrozin812 call me what you want but Jesus the name isn’t mentioned, His name is Yeshua. His name is mentioned plenty of times and no pagan, idol worshiping catholic has the ability to take biblical books out and call them non canonical. You cannot take or add from biblical scripture, if you’re going to question 1 book in all the books found in the Dead Sea scrolls then you’re placing the integrity of all their other books as well. Typical catholic picking and choosing what to follow in the Bible. Sunday isn’t even the sabbath, the Roman Catholic Church changed it.
A true born again Christian is sealed by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is very active in the life of that believer . This is the best evidence because the Holy Spirit produces fruit and ministers to the believer in ways an unbeliever cannot experience. 1st John tells us all about the hallmarks of a born again believer
This would have been so funny if it wasn't so popular. Start with false statement, say it's Catholicism and then criticise it based on that. Catholicism teaches that salvation is a free gift, but has to be willingly received. So obvious. Most sincere and logical outcome of this "by grace alone" is Kalvinism, where people are born saved or doomed, and there is nothing they could do to change it. Pure nonsence.
@@baraneo8195 if you ever kissed a picture of your mom, she would surely be offended right? And how confused you must have been to embrace a picture. Can't you see it's silly? All Catholics know, these are pictures of our beloved mother (as Jesus made us His brothers mind you). So either you are misinformed and lost or a hipocrit of ill will. Saints are not dead. But living, united with God. Giving us examples and intercede for us.
@@damian_ski That's a foolish first start of your argument. Wrong, mary claims herself to be a handmaiden, a vessel of God and in no way or sense does she claim to be our mother. Literally, you cannot bring up the verse. Jesus is the one and only intercessor between God and man, there is no intercession of the dead as we are all asleep and wait for the day of the Lord. 1 Timothy 2:5. You worship idols. God loves us and God Bless!
Let me ask you this... does the Southern Seminary have apostolic tradition? Because the Catholic Church sure does. If your church doesnt, you technically dont have any divine authority, let alone be asking if Catholics are Chiristian are not. The irony and ignorance in church history with this dude is so apparent and I love how this comment section is so based. Praise God!
@@edalbanese6310 What does that even mean? Haha Apostolic sucession is truth. It's the true history of the Church. Whats true is that this guy's church started in America in 1859, not Israel 33 AD. No apostolic succession, that is the truth.
As a Catholic for around 70 years, I have never heard the doctrine that you can save yourself by good works. Catholics are taught salvation through the blood of Jesus just like all christians. They are also taught that it is probably not possible to be a christian without good works. It will be a sad day when you die and are kneeling before the Throne of God when you hear God say "why didn't you feed me when I was hungry?" Maybe you can tell him it wasn't necessary because you were saved by the blood of Jesus. I'm sure every denomination can find enough members without teaching falsehoods about other denominations. Keep your eyes on Jesus.
Maybe it's the hypocrisy of the RC church that others find repulsive , there stance on gays but sweep child abuse under the carpet , they claim to believe in Jesus Christ but have endorsed anti semitism for hundreds of years , , there hypocrisy is astonishing and deluded
The reason you may not have heard of that doctrine is because that particular doctrine is known as Pelagianism and was condemned as a heresy at the Council of Carthage in 418, and thus is not taught by the Catholic Church. It is because protestant leaders that up untill recently I believe that Catholics thought they could earn their way into salvation, and if I had not started learning about the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Churches on my own I would probably still be misinformed.
@Asaph Vapor, man, you are everywhere! Well, on the topic, I don't believe in splitting away from my family over small (less than 10%?) disagreements. But who am I to advise you on your family issues. By the way, before continuing, please give me one good reason for rejecting many teachings of the Church fathers, while accepting the Bible they collected and canonised. Or the reason for the exclusion of Deuterocanonicals from the original Bible when both Jesus and gospel writers quoted from them? Or at least the reason for projecting Sola scriptura doctrine when it's not mentioned nowhere in the scripture.
A Christian is one who accepts Gods offer of salvation and also accepts that there is only one way to do so and that is to ask for that forgiveness and to live by the example of Christ , who himself said I A M THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME .....elsehere says bygrace are ye saved NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST, which puts to bed any idea that penny indulgennces, rosary beads, mass, the confesion box, baptism as a child, money giving or anything else " earns " salvation
I remember growing up Methodist and thinking even then, why does the New Testament describe only one Church and why are there now so many denominations? It is Protestantism, not Catholicism, that is unbiblical.
I'm just Christian, through and through. But I believe that if you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord and accept his teachings you will be saved. (Romans 10:9) No matter your denomination. Just my opinion! Can't wait to see yall in heaven! God bless! 💘🙏🏻✝️
Of course nothing in the Bible say " if you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord you'll be saved" That the sinners prayer and made up by evangelicals.
Luther was catholic, this means that the catholic were the ones that was against the catholic church, because of the false teachings of pulgatory, praying to saints, but the catholic church wanted to burn Luther alive.
@@paulariveraa3512 Hi. How could Catholics be against Catholicism? That makes no sense. Also, praying for the souls in Purgatory has been a doctrine since before Jesus was born. Praying to saints has been a practice since the first century in the days of the apostles. I'm not sure how they can be false teachings when they've existed since the days of the early Christians.
@@lf9081 "Luther protested the corruption in the Catholic Church" Are you making him out to be a hero? Luther taught that Moses was an idiot, that men could be polygamous, and that adulterers and murderers would enter Heaven provided they believed in Jesus. How is he the good guy in this? "so they wanted to kill him" And we'll just ignore the Catholics who were murdered for refusing to convert to Protestantism. Totally fair.
Liz Ferrara Have you ever read the 95 theses? Luther’s only objection was that paying money for indulgences so that St Peters basilica could be rebuilt because the original had burnt down was immoral. He had no problem with indulgences though! www.luther.de/en/95thesen.html Did you know Luther was a complete fruitcake? After reading Luther’s quotes in this link below you will want to puke knowing this is the father of your heretic movement! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 www.davidlgray.info/
The authors of this video are very ignorant. I’m asking them to engage with me in a debate on the legitimacy of Catholicism. Will you respond or will you hide?…
@@DUZCO10you calling people cowards will not take you far. have engaged with many catholics snd hate seems to be a common element. how about love as Jeseus showed?
@edalbanese6310 read my comment again. There is no hate. I'm stating what they'll likely do: hide and they are cowards for it. Nothing more nothing less. Hate is what you read into my comment
@edalbanese6310 as for love, I love Him and His holy Catholic and apostolic church. The same one where the remains of the apostles rest because for the first 1,000 of Christianity EVERYONE was Catholic
I'm a roman catholic.... and a christian.... How could you even contemplate that I'm not? roman catholics are christians, devout followers of the Christ - Sure, we pray for the intercession of Our Lady and the saints..... But at the heart, the core of our faith, is the recognition that Christ died for our sins.... We are therefore 'Christ'ian 🙄
As the denomination Protestant indicates, they are protesting against the Catholic Church no wonder they end up thinking that we are not Christians. Catholics are the original Christians that's a fact, protestant follows the teachings of Luther ( FORMER CATHOLIC) and the division occured by his arrogance is the result of the division among protestants themselves.
We are Catholics and we are definitely Christians. The problem is people are not asking us the question. They are 'telling us' as if we don't know ourselves. We know who we are!!!
as long as you pray to the dead, worship Mary and the saints and rely on the false doctrines of the church of rome then you have a problem........we are told to come out of the camp of apostacy and THAT is what must be done by those who personally accept Gods offer of salavation ...it is NOT something which is bestwed upon babies who have no idea of what is going on but rather is a personal decision which has to be made
@@hawneedog that may well be whAT YOU ARE TAUGHT BUT i HAVE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID NOT EXIST UNTIL THE DEATH OF cONSTANTINE AT WHICH POINT HIS TITLES ETC WERE HANDED OVER TO THE EXISTING CHURCH AND AS FOR THE BIBLE i THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT THE LETTERS OF THE DISCIPLES AND OTHERS WERE WRITTEN WELL BEFOR CONSYTANTINE SO IT IS COMPLETELY WRONG FOR YOUR CHURCH TO TELL YOU THAT it GAVE IT TO YOU
Protestant have some nerve asking if the people who give them their Bible are saved. The Bible has many Books that pretty much says faith and works will manifest themselves in each others 🙏
@@lydiapetra1211 IF those 7 Books are NOT Biblical as you claim, Why were they included in the Original King James Version, and kept for 274 Years, from 1611? Those 7 books were kept from 1611-1885!! IF they were NOT Biblical, WHY would it have taken Non-Catholics 274 Years to Figure that out? Guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God? Were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they decided to include them, and KEEP them from 1611-1885?? ( Non Catholics finally had them removed in 1885. ) OR, were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they had those books Removed in 1885 ? Which is it? One way or the other, they were NOT guided by God. Which is it?
@@lydiapetra1211 I noticed that you responded to Asaph Vapor....Did you ever notice that ALL of his comments are GONE? Many You Tube videos have DELETED his many comments, or He deleted them himself. IF he is so right....why are his comments ALL GONE? Totally gone....
@@marymac7605 because the world hates Truth!! And the world is ruled by Satan! Let's face it the RCC is Satan's greatest Hoax! And people foolishly belied and believe and follow all the teachings of the RCC! .. which are doctrines taught by demons!!! Truth is found in the Bible...but people are too lazy to study it instead they just believe the garbage taught by their priests who are just as lost as they are....the blind leading the blind....very sad...!!!
@@marymac7605 those 7 books are heretical....Not Biblical! It's the RCC who has included them...and the RCC persecuted and murdered God's people who came against it....it's through the Reformation that God used to bring His Truth alive...
Not true. A person who has confessed with their mouths and believed in their heart that Jesus Christ is Lord and in repentance accepted Him as their Savior is a true Christian. Platitudes do not count. I’m not intending to be rude but instead want everyone to understand so they get it right. You must have a personal relationship with Jesus. Time is short, and even though that statement has been said for millennia, only now is everything set for the events in Revelation to take place. The only thing I see missing is a restored temple in Jerusalem. Interesting, exciting and terrifying times. Take care!
Even the devil and his league of demons believe and confesses Jesus is lord. The day will come when man will say. We preach in your name and cast out demons in your name and the Father will say, Depart from me you workers of evil, I never knew you!
The terms Grace alone and Faith alone are not found in the Bible except when St. James tells us "We are not saved by Faith alone". Read James 2:24. "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only"!
Agree. ADDITIONALLY........ Jesus LAID OUT so clearly in Matthew 25:31 to 46, Matthew 7:21 to 23 and James that WORK is Jesus NUMBER ONE requirement for the person to enter his heavenly Kingdom. As we can see and read in Matthew's chapters.....he sent ALL those who are so called FAITH-FILLED to HELL because they lacked that one thing........WORK !! Then, add what James says that........WORK without FAITH is dead, likewise, FAITH without WORK is also dead. PLUS add Jesus words or reminder to his disciples that..........They/people will know that you are MY disciples, MY Followers, MY brothers and sisters, MY real BORN-OF-GOD children by your FRUITS/BY your WORKS.. ...Jesus said these words HIMSELF, so for these people esp. the man in this video to claim that FAITH is the W, is making Jesus a Liar ! they are also SOWING DISCORD, so they will answer to Jesus when their Judgment day comes.
@Asaph Vapor Let me answer this one for you, Mr. Doinky man ( see how I sent back your OWN word to you?/) FAITH AlONE....means, Doing WORK is NOT the way to obtain that FAITH because FAITH is a GIFT FROM GOD. A person can not say..... I am going to give money to the poor in my church , so I can have the fAITH my Friends have. I want what they have, of having that solid and strong FAITH. WORK can NOT produce FAITH, otherwise that person will BOAST. HOWEVER......Since FAITH IS A GIFT from GOD given with GRACE to those of whom God gives ( because NOT everyone is given with FAITH ), so to those who are given that FAITH, he/she is EXPECTED to bear FRUITS/WORKS, otherwise, that FAITH which is given from GOD would just become a ......DEAD FAITH OR, would become a man who was given TALENTS, but buried it, thus, he did not gain any profit, so when the master came back /Jesus, he was NOT happy that he did NOT gain any from what he GAVE to the man, sort of like....YOU who has a DEAD FAITH. See? I just answered your Ephesians 2:8 to 9 in less than 10 minutes and without any effort in it. You know why?? because this is a REPEAT topic that I must have answered FOUR TIMES !!!! Debating with you is getting by the minute because you are so sloooow ans shallow in biblical understanding. YOU do NOT have ANY spiritual discernment at all, Asaph !!!! NONE !!!! More tomorrow , since it's my prayer time. i have so MUCH to THANK Jesus with, for giving me knowledge to CLEAR UP his REAL teachings from a DECEITFUL person like you.
@Asaph Vapor ...Your understanding of Ephesians which CONTRADICTS and OPPOSES to Jesus words in Matthew 25:31 to 46 shows your Ignorance of this verses. that's why you easily BELIEVED these FALSE Pastors because you have NO spiritual discernment. FAITH must bear FRUITS/GOOD WORKS , because WITHOUT that GOOD WORK, WITHOUT that gOOD WORK, your FAITH is meaningLESS and can NOT help you to enter jesus Kingdom. Says WHO???? Jesus HIMSELF. You truly are the DRAGON'S SEED with this understanding and TWISTED version of this Verses and no wonder you are LOST. NOW, you have NOTHING left since I just debunked the very core belief you had. You and the others FALSELY Relied on this single verse with a VERY VERY FALSE understanding of this verse. Look how it CONTRADICTS to jesus own words. Are you drunk when you posted this comments?????? Completely ZERO comprehension, Zero !!!
A landmark report on Tuesday found that at least 330,000 children were sexually abused by clergy and lay members of church institutions in France over the past 70 years.
Lmao, I'm from the most Catholic country in the world : Brazil. I don't even need to say anything more, look at carnaval. That shit was invented and developed in a country where until the 90's almost (if not more) 70% was Catholic. Also, most of the Catholics practised fornication.....
@@bendover4668 The Catholic Church was not known as the Roman Catholic Church in the very beginning. It was not known as the RCC until King Henry VIII called it the Roman Catholic Church. He was angry that the Pope would not let him divorce his wife and marry another woman. So, he called it ROMAN Catholic. He meant it as a derogatory term. Sadly, the name stuck. Also since you say that the RCC created a corrupt Church, you are calling Jesus a liar. He promised that Hell would not prevail, and Hell has not prevailed. It really makes no sense to look at the sinners in any Church, to focus on what sinful man has done or not done. Without JESUS, no Church is any good. Every Church is full of sinners. The Catholic Church is no exception. When Jesus is taken out of the equation, no Church is any good. When do you claim the RCC got its start? What Year? Just remember that the Catholic Church, the one many call the RCC was not called the RCC. It was not known as the RCC until King Henry VIII called it the Roman Catholic Church. I have heard some claim that Constantine affected Christianity, that he corrupted Christianity. To say that is to demean Jesus. He did promise that Hell would not prevail . And Hell has not prevailed. Choosing to focus ONLY on sinners makes no sense. I choose to focus ON JESUS. IF you are out to look for evil, you will find it. Every earthly Church is corrupt because it is run by man. Yet, JESUS IS the Church. He is the Head of the Body of Christ. He is all that matters. I choose to not focus on sinful man, because Without Jesus, every Church is corrupt. HE makes the Church great. Something to really think about.
@@bendover4668 It's just the Catholic Church. There are over 20 rites. "Roman" (actually "Latin" is the correct title) is the Church of the West and happens to be the largest. But all 20+ are in communion with each other.
@@bendover4668 there is no "roman" catholic church. It is just the catholic church which is made up of 2r diferente churches..the roman le latin portion is only one branch..you hace eastern catholic like byzantines, green catholic melkite, maronites, or iraquí chaldean churches
Catholic is Christian, and Christian is Catholic. Vatican II says the Church of Christ is the Catholic Church. Protestantism is not Christian. Only the Catholic Church is Christian. Protestantism never had and never will have any authority to define any dogma or doctrine. Some Protestant denominations agree with some of the Catholic/Christian teachings, for example the Holy Trinity, but the dogma of the Holy Trinity was defined by the Catholic/Christian Church. Protestantism has defined no Christian dogmas, because the only authority to define Christian dogmas is the Catholic/Christian Church.
Yes... you are right...but a Christian refers only to a true believer who is born again and led by the Holy Spirit....who lives according to the New Testament only!
@@nestproductions7420 I didn't mention the Old Testament.... only the New Testament... what is it that you don't understand so I can explain it to you.
@@nestproductions7420 Christian means follower of Jesus according to New Testament...the New Testament is God's infallible Truth and Word! Anyone who is not born again as in John 3:3 will never go to heaven....the New Testament is the only direction, instruction and teachings sanctioned by God... If you follow any other teachings than the New Testament than you follow doctrines taught by demons!!
What’s funny is that I’ve been Catholic for forty-two years: alter boy to Christmas & Easter Catholic, read and watched Catholic and Apologetic videos, read Trent, countless masses, looked it Catechism, etc and I haven’t once heard or read, “your saved by faith + works.” It’s the oddest thing, the only people that preach faith + works are Protestants who think we preach it.
George Penton that whole discourse is predicated in our acceptance of Christ as our Savior. Those virtues by themselves don’t get is to heaven, but a reflection of Christ in us. Works based Gotta read Trent, brother, “ “If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or by the teaching of the Law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema” (Session 6; can. 1).
I think we are in agreement, Andrew. The Church teaches that faith without works is dead but she also teaches that works without faith is dead. Where Catholics and Protestants differ is that Catholics believe that faith is just the beginning whereas Protestants think that faith is all we need. Catholics see salvation as a process. Protestants think salvation is a one time event where they have an emotional experience after giving their hearts to Jesus at a revival meeting. There is nothing wrong with giving your heart to Jesus, of course, but salvation is a lot more than that. If a Protestant gives his heart to Jesus but goes back to his sins, like a lot of them do, he won't go to Heaven. Worse, if he thinks his salvation experience gives him a license to sin---and many think just that---he will not go to Heaven.
Thats the problem, you go by the doctrine of catholisism, and not by the doctrine of jesus Christ, and i see you dont read the holyscriptures. Yeap your not a christian.
@Asaph Vapor Where is your evidence for that? The Church has always professed Christ as Savior. And remember, your Catholic (use our theology + Bible + worldview) just deny Church authority. So its our (collectively) theology.
Because most don't bother to actually study the historicity of the Church themselves and rely on the ignorance of others to tell them about Catholicism
@@PatrickInCayman true brother. But let us rely on each other for support. We have no friends in this world. But we have each other and our faith to the most holy. Let us spread a message of love as those have that came before us. There is so much hate in the world. Let us not be bitter. Let us prosper. For the path is least traveled but the finish line is eternal.
@@michaelkapp4722 that is kind of least common denominator, maybe simplistic, but true, as far as it goes. I would add that, when we come to faith in Christ, we need Baptism into His Church. Baptism of water and the Holy Spirit.
Very opinionated and closed-minded of you to think that way. How many religions are there on Earth? And how many of those religions are heavily based on where you're from? I'll give a hint. The majority of us are born into a certain kind of religion, based on country, family etc. A hard truth for you to accept is this: Jesus Christ was a real person. Outside of that, its all different stories.
@@pumpkin9916 my religion is not based on where I live,as it is Middle Eastern and I am not. Neither is it dependent on my family as I am in the process of converting in an Atheist household,I am Catholic because of the overwhelming amount of history that backs it up.
@@Somezoomer Not all individuals are religious based on location, but majorities are (Philippines 99% catholic, etc). Muslims have 3 or 4 billion followers, what makes us Christians so sure theres isnt true? Again, I'm Christian 100% lol just saying its impossible to factually know whats correct and what isn't. A mystery of the world
Sir, God is the only one to judge whether a person is a Christian. Not you. Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church, with Peter, the greatest of the apostles, as the first pope.
We all know Protestantism just want to make short-cuts, then why did Luther didn't went to Orthodoxy when he spot some lapses of the Roman Catholic Church.
Luther spotted some lapses in the Catholic Church? He needed to look at himself first, to do as Jesus said....Before he judged others, he needed to remove the log from his own eye before he tried to remove the speck from others eyes....At least the Catholic Church didn't/doesn't call Jesus an adulterer and a fornicator. Luther did. Luther said that he was sure that Jesus had sex with the woman at the well. Luther also approved of adultery between husbands and wives. For husbands having problems in their marriages, his advise was 'There is always the maid." He said that he could fornicate 1,000 times a day and still be justified. He said that our Consciences are of the devil...he said that we should go and do just the opposite of what our consciences tell us. He also was known as being quite Anti-Semetic. At first, he was kind to the Jews. When he could not get them to convert, he came out and said that they should lose their rights....and have their homes and synagogues destroyed. He was actually praised in a book written by Heimlich Himmler of the Third Reich. HE notices lapses in the Catholic Church? Wow. He sure didn't look at himself, did he? He needed to.
This answer does not satisfy me because I am not a Catholic nor am I a Protestant. I am a disciple of Christ and have been immersed into Christ and thus I am a Christian but I am not part of any denomination or cultural State religion.
www.desiringgod.org/articles/why-should-i-go-to-church ^^^ It really has some valid points as well as scripture such as Ephesians and Romans that state the need for being attached to such a community of believers because we are part of the body of Christ and as such we all have a role. Im just saying maybe you should consider going to church if u dont or maybe im just seeing this comment wrong cus to me it sounds like you dont attend church since you do not hv a denomination.
I was a member of Church of Christ for 38 years, I converted to Roman Catholic,, best decision of my life,,, this was kind of insulting,,, no meat on that bone if you ask me
@@Bugsy0333 According to God's word not mine. It's objective that what he chose is idolatry, it's not subjective when it comes to God's word if you are a Christian. God's word can't be argued with.
@@blackairforceenergy1084 you mean Mary is the mother of Jesus (son of God), not God. Before you comment anything that is very wrong without knowledge, don't go attack someone that is false information that came from you. May peace be with you and God bless.
@@blackairforceenergy1084 who said we don't pray to God and Jesus? Is that what other taught Catholic is? We pray for them foremost because they're the Father, the Son an the Holy Spirit.
@@edalbanese6310 So the Trinity isn't truth? Praying for the dead to make it to heaven (aka get out of purgatory) in the Book of Macabees (which is part of the original Bible but Protestants edited it out of their versions to support their beliefs). Study the early Church if you want to believe as the earliest followers of Christ believed because they were taught by those who met and followed Jesus.
I was raised Catholic and never knew Jesus! My mom was a Catholic until she was 47 was born again and then left the Catholic Church! I left at 17 and was born again a few years later!
sounds like you both made a huge mistake. 17? and you thought you had the authority or the knowledge to know the true faith and its holy mysteries in its entirety, and then have the audacity to say that the catholic baptism was not confirming or validating to give you communion within the true faith? and to say you were born again? after already being born again through christian catholic baptism? jesus says himself that not all who cry jesus will receive salvation, even though you now presumably claim to ‘know’ Him in your schism, he says he will say to those people, he never knew you, and then you go to everlasting fire. there are no words for this ignorance and apostasy. only one. demonic.
You need both works and faith! Not faith ALONE look up in the bible, James 2:24-26 (this is in yall's version of the bible). AND Catholics ARE CHRISTIANS, We are the original church created by Jesus. THUS The ORIGINAL CHRISTIANS and were the Christians who died for the faith in the early church. Be reminded that Martin Luthur did change the bible taking out books (he didn't agree with) and even adding in words. Please, I ask ALL Christians BOTH CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT (yes, that include you Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, and Methodist) to look at Christian history and learn more about the Catholic faith ( there are many resources like the Catechism, which outline the Catholic Christian Faith.)
A landmark report on Tuesday found that at least 330,000 children were sexually abused by clergy and lay members of church institutions in France over the past 70 years.
@@JC-hm7he Which is why is sad that people still pray someone other than God. Especially when Christ tells you to pray through Him in His name to the Father to glorify the Father in the Son. That Christ is the One and Only Mediator between God and man, that Jesus and the Holy Spirit both intercede your prayers to God, that your prayers are not to be repetitive nor in vain like the heathens. That no where in the Bible is there a single example of someone other than God being able to receive prayer, or someone being prayed to other than God that justifies such an act. 1 Timothy 2:5, Matthew 6:7, John 14:6, 13-14.
@Asaph Vapor ........... Well, hello there, Mr. Asaph, who got VAPORized and QUIT conversing with me because ALL his beliefs got debunked ! As ALWAYS, a babyish and kinder level answer.......YOUR words....." is Mary your Mother"? Why Catholics call Mary Mother"???????????? Someone here does NOT know nor READ the bible esp. the part where Jesus GAVE his OWN MOTHER to John telling them BOTH, and showing his GOD-SIDE Character saying........" WOMAN, behold YOUR SON" and to John, he says......" SON, behold YOUR MOTHER" !! hmmm...............let's SEE and EXAMINE as to WHY did Jesus tell MARY to look at John as HER OWN SON when they're NOT even bloodly related at all ????AND, why did Jesus calls John as SON, when John was NOT Mary's own SON???? For YOU not to understand this scenario shows you really have NO DEEP Godly understanding at all, Asaph !!! Here's WHY Jesus GAVE HIS OWN MOTHER TO JOHN and TO ALL OF US !!!!! John represents MANKIND, his CREATIONS, his CHILDREN ! Those who FOLLOW, BELIEVE and DO the commandments of GOD, his TESTIMONY are called the WOMAN'S OFFSPRING and this scenario here at the foot of the cross ALIGNS to what Revelation chapter 12 describes...........MARY, as the QUEEN in HEAVEN, is the MOTHER of all HIS CREATIONS !!! It's like......hello Asaph's brain? Are you asleep or functioning at all??? Seems like your brain is completely out of order, Asaph !! So, IF you want to be here debating , you're gonna have to make that brain of yours FUNCTION !!!
@Asaph Vapor BTW......do NOT ask me with ignorance......" where did it say in the bible?? because what i DESCRIBED YOU, the scenario at the foot of the cross, is Inside the BIBLE !!! Go REAd it !! That means.....Go FILP the pages of the bible and READ it !!!
The first time in history the word “Christian” was used is found in the Book of Acts in chapter 11 verse 26 where it says, “The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.” They were ALL Catholics as that was the ONLY Church, given Jesus started ONE church - the Catholic Church. Christian = Catholic. Nearly 1500 YEARS later a PROTEST movement was started by Martin Luther. The protesters are called PROTESTants. There are many types of Protestants with widely varying beliefs like JWs and Mormons. None are as large as the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Jesus didn't start the catholic church. The church at Antioch was a Gentile church, not a catholic church. That is how the devil twists scriptures. The catholics twist scriptures the same way. Lie's straight from hell and out of the mouth of the devil
@@Henry-eh2jk Let's see what the early Church Fathers had to say about this. St. Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of none other than John the Apostle. And do you know what he said around the year 107? He wrote, "wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." So there you have it. The bishop of Antioch, were followers of Christ were first identified as "Christians", calls those same Christians "Catholic". Please do not say that Catholics twist the Scriptures as if it's intentional and saying it comes from the "mouth of the devil". Where do you get this attitude? Does your preacher like to bash Catholics or something? It might be more ecumenical to say that in your opinion Catholics are misguided and then state why you think that.
@@Henry-eh2jko connect your brothers in Christ with Satan, is beyond what Christ has called upon us to do. Hate is Hate and you are filled with it. Jesus can not share a heart filled with hate.
@@vinrico6704 Jesus said that those who humble themselves will be exalted and that those who exalt themselves will be humbled. Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; and cling to what is good. Jesus did not start the catholic church. The Bible is not catholic. Catholics are not Christians. You twist scriptures. May The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit bless you and continue to bless His Chosen People, the Nation of Israel. Halleu Yah Thank you Jesus
@@Henry-eh2jk double down, triple down, you follow the words written down on paper, the words of men, to base your faith on the hate of others is no faith at all, I can not judge you as you judge me, I do not pretend to be God as you do., I do not pretend to know anything except that I have accepted Jesus, you pretend to know Gods word, his words are unknowable. You pretend to know the path and might even point at it occasionaly yet you mock and scorn those who actually walk it. What concern is it of yours to mock and scorn the only church of Jesus Christ, the Church who wrote the Bible that you quote to scorn and hate us, what concern is it of yours?
I love how we like to pretend nothing happened between the Apostolic Age and Martin Luther. Did Luther descend from Heaven with his LONG debunked "theories" of Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and the like? This sounds like Protestant nonsense, but okay.
Sounds like you dont know what you talking about, are you trying to say that the word of GOD is not the only divine authority? Sola scrituras means : God's word only, this means don't add anything else, like the apocryphal books.
@@paulariveraa3512 I am trying to say that Christians unanimously interpreted Sacred Scripture in one way for literally 1,500 years until some German guy decided he could do it by himself and caused the worst division in the history of the Church. And that's including Gnostic, Arian, and other heresies.
You seem very smart, i will like to debate you, according with the holyscriptures, not according with catholisism, because catholisism is not scripture related. Do you accept my challenge!
@@paulariveraa3512 Okay, I mean Catholics basically compiled the Bible that even Protestants use so I'm more than willing to debate you using the Bible Christians have used for thousands of years.
@@paulariveraa3512 Also are you going to tell me that you're going to ignore what Christians throughout history believed about the Bible, biblical authority, and almost anything else? I think that it would be a disservice to all those Christians who were persecuted at the hands of the Romans and other groups to so fundamentally challenge what they believed.
Well, since the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus himself, yes, Catholic are indeed Christians. They are the original Christians who spread the Gospel, wrote the Bible (with divine inspiration) and established the faith. Over the centuries many denominations split off from the One True Church.
What does a church need be catholic! Doctrine!!! Tradition!!! A lot of the early bishops have different traditions and views which are very different from today's catholic doctrines and traditions. Therefore it's not very accurate to say THE church that Christ found was The Catholic Church. Note: I do believe catholics to be Christian and I myself plan on converting.
According to Protestantism all believers in Christ are automatically saved. Well, Catholics believe in Jesus. Therefore according to Protestant logic all Catholics are saved. Right, Protestants?
It's not that we're saved by faith AND works, but instead that we are saved by faith that it rooted in works. James chapter 2 should clear that up. Hopefully now you will see that Catholicism is good. Not even the gates of hell will overcome it, never mind some Protesters of the Church.
Are you saved? Tho?? Catholics pray to Mary and statues and have pagan symbols on popes I believe that’s idolatry and worshiping image that’s bad and you should rely on the Bible instead of the pope he claimed that god speaks in him that is blasphemy and not true read your Bible and know the truth get the kings James Bible the devil will deceived so many Christians watch out and pray for the truth because the truth is Christ
Sorry but the works should be rooted in your faith not the other way around. We do good works for the Lord out of faith that He has saved us from our sins’ penalty.
No it is of the devil but too blind to see it cause James is not written to Christians but Jews in the coming tribulation(that already happened according to catholism) but starts after the rapture. So not all doctrine is for us today and so the books from Paul are mostly for Christians and some for jews and the general epistles are mostly for Jews and Hebrew to Revelation are mostly for jews and some for christians. We are saved by grace through faith without works. Rom 3:28 Therefor we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law or Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteosness come by the law, then christ is dead in vain. And if you don't rightly devide Gods word as God demands then you get wrong doctrine like the false catholic church and is the whore of Babylon but you just don't see that. Catholics murdered millions of Christians in the early days so they are enemies of true believers and are decieved big time.
@ItsJBoB Not really cause the verses dont apply to Christians but Jews in the coming tribulation starting in revelation 6 and we are in 2 now and for them it will be faith and works to get saved cause the Jews rejected Jesus so it will be harder to get saved then... so we are now saved by faith and even if I show no fruit I am still saved cause faith gives us righteousness not works cause works we do for rewards in heaven and crowns not salvation.
If you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, you try your very best to follow his teachings and don't have hate in your heart you are a Christian regardless of whether you're Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox or whatever. I strongly refute the suggestion that we are already saved and by faith alone because plenty of people of faith have done and continue to do terrible things. You must have faith AND live your faith by your actions! Judgement day is when we truly know if we are saved in my opinion.
YES, Catholics who proclaim Jesus Christ as their Savior ARE Christians. True, some just go to Mass and pretend to be Christian, just like many Protestants do likewise. And those Catholics as well as Protestants will end up in Hell 🔥 if they do not wake up and repent. (Good works have a lot more to do with living in accordance with God's Word and will, and less to do with being kind or good deeds) As for being saved, are we saved by faith alone, or faith + works? Let's see what the Bible says JAMS. 2:24: -A man is justified by works and NOT by faith alone. JAMS. 2:26: -Faith without works is dead. GAL. 5:6: -only thing that counts is faith working in love. 1 COR. 13:2 - faith without love is nothing. JOHN 14:15 - If you love Me (Jesus) keep My Commandments. MATT. 19:16-17 - If you wish to enter into life, keep My Commandments.
beautiful brother. one thing to add is that yes those people you mention may end up in hell, but we do not condemn nor say with assurance that they will be, all we can do is HOPE (and pray) that many will be saved including the lukewarm, including the non believers. It is in this way we show our true Christianity, praying and showing love for our enemies. God Bless.
As we Catholics always point out, the phenomenon is: "Weak Catholics become Evangelicals or Protestants. Strong Evangelicals or Protestants become Catholics." Weakness and strength here refer to: especially knowledge and understanding of the Bible, and also church history, doctrine and morals, and one's covenant (not "personal relationship" which is unbiblical) with Jesus. Those Evangelicals or Protestants who devoutly study the Bible in its fullness eventually discover that the Catholic Church is the original, authentic, and complete Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ himself and so decide to join or revert to it. Those who have not yet done so, have not yet fully studied and understood (underline: fully studied and understood) the Bible.
Asaph Vapor you obviously have not “fully studied or understood” Acts or the Bible for that matter. It was the first Pope, Peter (Matthew 16), in the Holy Spirit, who lead and presided the Jerusalem church (Acts 2). That was the birth of the Catholic Church. If you cannot see these as enough proofs from the Bible it is because you are still a weak Evangelical. You need to study more and fully understand the Bible then you’ll be lead to the true Church founded by Jesus Christ himself, the RCC!
Asaph Vapor show me where in the Bible can you find: trinity, sola scriptura, sola fide, altar call, rapture, or even, Bible. You a have a lot more to learn about the Bible. Just because a term cannot the found in the Bible doesn’t mean the idea or reality is not in the Bible.
Asaph Vapor be not afraid. Just be open to the Holy Spirit. Lets focus on where you started this debate. The church in Jerusalem. Don’t muddle it and bring up many other issues. In a debate per se that’s ruled out of order. Reread what I’ve pointed about it. As I can see you’re a so-called Bible Christian, lets stick to the Bible. Open your Bible to Acts 2 and Matthew 16. Still on the Bible... so, have you found those terms or words i challenged you to find in the Bible? Be serious. Read it. Pray. As to your question. I’ve read, studied, prayed the entire Bible many times over. Want to know in what languages, including Hebrew and Greek?
@Asaph Vapor Ha Ha still calling people troll and other names. Still changing the subject when you can not answer Still claiming that you will answer then don't """"YOU: show me where in the Bible can you find: trinity, sola scriptura, sola fide, altar call, rapture, or even, Bible ME: How simple is that troll! It's all in the Scriptures. """"" Admit it you did not finish school
Asaph Vapor you’re no longer holding on to the debate proper. You’re just saying things out of order. You lose. But that’s not the point. I invite you in the Holy Spirit to fully study and understand the Bible. I will be one in welcoming you when you join the original, authentic, and complete Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ himself.
This guy made me laugh. I’m a Roman Catholic and this guy is not only a heretic but he’s condescending. I’m glad I’m a Catholic. At least I know where we got our Bible. Good luck with that you Protestants. 🙏🏼
You were being condescending right back . Most bible translations are good ,some better than others. When you say that you have the original Bible it was not without fault. As a matter of fact it was only a couple of original Greek manuscript copies to make the KJV and a couple of the pages of Revelation were actually ripped out so they did their best. Newer translations are based off of over 6000 Greek manuscripts and are more accurate but I’d never even consider fighting mean words with mean words. You know better and I know better. Keep on working and praying and one day you’ll find your “ Pause Button”
I would strongly urge you to look into transubstantiation of the Eucharist and you’ll realize why that makes the Catholic gospel completely false because in order to eat Jesus’s flesh he’d have to die resurrect again every single Sunday. That in itself contributes to the false Catholic gospel and Paul was clear that anyone preaching a false Gospel will be accursed. Not to mention by definition is cannibalism and vampirism. I was raised Catholic and the info that I’m giving to you is done out of love not only you but to keep the gospel of Jesus Christ the way it always was and should stay. I was a Catholic for over 25 years and I started doing research and that’s why I am no longer a Roman catholic. Roman Catholicism cannot be called Christianity because Mary is a deity . Check your king James Bible and let me know if it says in the Bible that Mary was assumed was to heaven. Roman Catholics changed the Ten Commandments, The Our Father and praying to these dead “saints” is definitely against what Scripture tells us to do and that is to go directly to our creator Jesus Christ and to our Holy Father. Would love to chat about this In Christ’s Love Brian
@@brianwhitaker5288 yes, I would LOVE to chat with you. You have so much of what we do twisted and in error. It’s sad really. There’s too much to type here. I’ve studied Catholicism in depth along with many Protestant teachings. (With over 33,000 different denominations it’s hard to get exactly what they are all teaching) You most definitely have the Eucharist wrong. The Catholic priest or Bishop makes present the one and only sacrifice at every Mass. We DO NOT recrucify Jesus at every Mass. Mass transcends time and space so we are truly present at the Last Supper. Look up the Jews and the Passover where they make the Exodus present at every Passover event. I’m sorry that you left the Eucharist for a lie but many do just like when many walked away from Jesus in John 6:66. Anyway, when I hear people like you who have Catholicism all wrong it only boosts my faith and makes me know that since we have the truth it can ONLY be distorted to be refuted. You have to spread lies about what we do because the truth would bring you back. I could talk with you for a very long time but I’ll pray for you instead. Just please do yourself a favor and be fair to yourself. Spreading lies about what Catholics do is destructive to you and those who hear you. We all know where lies originate from. It started in the Garden of Eden. Mary is a deity? Oh boy. Lies everywhere. God bless you.
@@brianwhitaker5288 Wow Brian, looks like you've been indoctrinated HEAVILY by protestant theology. Near most everything you say is false and relies on bad theology and superficial reading of Holy Scripture. Sad that you couldn't take up those difficulties you had with your Catholic priest
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; cit is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
“For by grace (alone) you have been saved through (the work of) faith, and this (grace alone) is not from you, it is the gift of God, it is not from (Mosaic) works (of the Torah), so no one may boast. For we are His handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works (of love) that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them.” Ephesians 2: 8-10. See also Romans 2: 5-8, James 2: 14-26. 🙏
“For in Christ Jesus (Yeshua the Messiah) neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith WORKING through LOVE.” Galatians 5: 6. Father Paul, Catholic priest and apostle of Christ, says that “faith” is a WORK…. 🤔
There are many reputable videos on Catholic misconceptions by qualified speakers. Scott Hahn, Bishop Barron , Alaister McIntyre etc. The way I see it. When christianity was being established there were experts in many fields all working together to collate what is now the Bible. They worked painstakingly on this and devoted their lives to getting it right. When completed because of the subtlety in the nuances it was thought that it should be interpreted by those that would take these nuances into account. In an age when most people were illiterate this was thought to be the best move. If these nuances were to be misinterpreted they could give ambiguity to the texts. Catholicism left the interpretations to those qualified to do so and accepted the word handed down. This was to prevent multiple interpretations leading to schisms in the Christian doctrine. It is these schisms that have lead to all the different evangelical and protestant versions. Just for the record Catholics do not worship Mary, she is venerated. We dont worship statues. ( ark of the covenant had statues on it ). Anyway if you dare to look online for reasonable Catholic answers they are there.
No excuses for idolatry, they do worship her. Praying to the dead and statues of them is worship no matter how you spit ball it. God loves us and God Bless!
@@baraneo8195 Do you honor your parents? lovingly remember your grandparents by keeping a picture of them? Belong to a prayer group? Ever asked someone to pray for you?
My husband was born and raised Roman Catholic. I was raised in a southern Baptist church. We have had countless discussions about the differences in our churches and what we were taught growing up through the church. We have come to realize through reading our bibles together and forming strong, independent relationships with the Lord that both of our churches taught us things that we do not agree with today. It is my belief that everyone can find something their church has taught them that may be contrary to what the Bible actually says. I think being honest with one another and reading the word of God on your own time can enlighten you beyond just attending church. My husband and I are Christians and now we tend to only say that, without following up with our denomination because in the end it doesn’t matter what you identify as. It only matters if you are saved through Christ.
@rangers94ism The history of Catholic pedophile priests and the cover-up right to the Pope has turned my stomach away. What about yourself what's your feeling?
@@Bugsy0333 Those pedophiles weren't true Priests. They were predators posing as priests. However, if you are going to throw stones make sure that you are not living in a glass house.
The Bible is not a Catholic book. Catholics did not write it, nor does their doctrines and church meet the description of the doctrine and church of which it speaks. The New Testament was completed before the end of the first century, A.D.
@@nononono4006 Strangely, the Original King James Version Bible (1611) was very close to the Catholic Bible. The Original KJV Bible contained those 7 Books...the books that Non-Catholics call the Apocrypha and Catholics call the Deuterocanonical books. The Original KJV Bible contained those 7 books for 274 Years, from 1611-1885! Those books were then removed by Non-Catholics in 1885. Those books became quite Inconvenient to Non-Catholics. They said that the books were Not Canonical. In other words, they claimed that the New Testament did not Reference those 7 books. Yet, there are about 113 Cross-References between the New Testament and those 7 books. They removed them in 1885, so that no one would know that they did belong, do belong. I learned that, interestingly, on an Official King James Version Online Bible study site. I was surprised that they even admitted that. When I first learned that, I asked myself just WHY it would have taken them 274 YEARS to figure out that those books did not belong. Guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God? Were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they included those 7 books in the Original KJV Bible and KEPT them for 274 Years, from 1611-1885?? OR, were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they had those books Removed in 1885?? One way or the other, they were Not guided by God. Which is it? I used to think that Luther had those books removed around the time of the Reformation. He didn't want those books, yet, they were included in the Original KJV Bible for 274 Years. Food for thought. Some may take this food for thought, start to taste it, start to nibble it a little, maybe even start to Digest it. Yet, some will announce that they are on a Diet..a diet from real Truth. You may have known about this, or not. We can all stand to learn something new.
@@nononono4006 The New Testament was not available at first. The Catholic Church is the one who put the Bible together, who chose which books to include in the Bible and which ones not to include. Also, some are not aware as to why Luther decided against those 7 books. ( Despite that, those books were included in the Original KJV Bible. ) At first, he wanted to keep MACCABEES II, but he felt that it made no sense without MACCABEES I, so he decided to cut them both out. (They weren't cut out). Also, there were 4 Books of the New Testament that he didn't want....that included JAMES. He called James "An epistle of straw." He also said that he wanted to "Throw Jimmy into the fire." He also based his reasonings on not wanting the 7 books on the reasonings of the Jewish Council of Jamnia. The Jews at Jamnia were Jews who were not converts to Christ. The Jews at Jamnia, being that they were not converts to Christ...had no divine Right to say just WHICH books Christians included in their Bible. Apparently Luther thought they did...or, he didn't think.? I have heard some claim that the Jews did not approve of the 7 books. There were Jews who did approve of those 7 books, who WERE converts to Christ. The diaspora Jews accepted the 7 books, accepted Jesus as their Savior. Yet, Luther chose to go along with the reasonings of the Jews at Jamnia, with Jews who DID NOT accept Christ , who were not converts, who did not want to spread the good news of Our Savior, Jesus Christ. Guided by God? I have heard that there may not have been a Jewish Council of Jamnia. Whether there was or not, Luther believed they existed, and went right along with their reasonings...with the reasonings of the Jews who were not converts to Christ. The diaspora had a real divine right to say Which books to include in the Bible. Luther thought otherwise. Nevertheless, the Holy Spirit got His way when those 7 Books were included in the Original KJV Bible (1611)....and were kept until 1885. The Original KJV Bible was quite close to the Catholic Bible. In 1885, Non-Catholics just couldn't have that. More food for thought.
Jesus came first, He still does and forever will. We have direct access to Him and He in return is our access to the Father. If there is one thing that blatantly calls into question Catholicism for me, it’s the need to submit to the Popes authority. I submit to one Authority and that is Jesus Christ. Another blatantly antithetical Catholic tradition is calling the priests, father. Jesus said in as plain a language as possible that you are to call no man father but your Heavenly Father. I find it curious that he specifically said that. It’s as if he was giving the new believers a heads up of what to avoid in the future.
@@chrismitchell45 The Bible does not outlaw calling Priests Father. Jesus meant that for the scribes and the pharisees. They did not have ultimate respect for God, the Father, in Heaven. The apostles, outside of Judas, had real respect for God, the Father, in Heaven. After Jesus said that, the apostles referred to themselves as Fathers. It has only been in fairly recent history that Non-Catholics use that verse the way that you did. Hundreds of Years ago, Non-Catholic theologians understood that verse the way that it was meant to be understood...most of them, anyway.
Just here for the historical information. Not religious whatsoever, but saw a documentary on the Knights Templar, and fell down a rabbit hole. From a non bias outside perspective, it seems silly to not think Catholics aren’t Christians. Do you all acknowledge one Creator? Was Jesus s real person and son of God? Do you all acknowledge sin and forgiveness? Then Catholics are Christians. End of story. It’s not that complicated. Catholics derived from from the Old Testament which was translated from the Hebrew Scripture. Everyone knows the scripture may have been misinterpreted in some areas due to the limited selection of words, which hold multiple definitions. What a clusterf***. The point is, if you accept God into your heart and life, and acknowledge that he is your creator, and live a life of love, respect, acceptance, forgiveness etc, you’re a Christian. All of you are Christians in my eyes. To each and their own, cheers.
Dude the church does NOT contradict our faith! We are saved BECAUSE we believe (- & we believe because of what we've heard from the church started by Jesus Christ!) There is no "error" in matters of faith and morals taught by the church. If "Protestant" was right then WHICH "Protestant" church is THE church started by Jesus Christ? (* And WHICH "Protestant" church can trace it's roots all the way to Peter Paul and Jesus??)
Catholics have been believing in Jesus, And following Jesus for 2000 years now, but protestantism and the protestant doctrines of "scripture alone" and "faith alone" comes from Martin Luther in 1517. Newsflash:.... Luther is not Christ. neither are any of the other :reformers" All the protestants who want to "lead us to christ" don't even have christ. they have Martin Luther and a book that they stold from the catholic church. Luther was a drunken pervert who had mental problems and visions of the devil whom he conversed with
If a catholic tells you that he has repented and does trust in jesus alone for salvation, the next thing you should do is ask him of he still believes that he could end up purgatory or loose his slavation from mortal sin. If yes, then he/she has not grasped the Gospel yet. Catholics who reject justification by grace through faith alone believe in a Jesus that is not sufficient to pardon their sins. That's not the Jesus of the Bible. I would recommend that we should never treat a Catholic with the presumption that they have understood the real Gospel and trusted the real Jesus who is powerful enough to cleanse all mortal sins and who has finished fulfilling the law.
Romans1:17 Wow you must be proud of yourself that you are alone the one who does understand the NT and the Gospels. Congratulations and hats off. James 2:14-26, Matthew 25:31-46
You need to examine the basis on which you are a Protestant. Who founded the Catholic Church? Ans: Jesus Christ (Matt 16: 17-19) Who founded the first Protestant Church? Ans: Martin Luther (apostate Catholic priest) Why on earth would you follow the teachings of an apostate priest instead of the teachings of Christ's Universal Church? It is not Luther's Church it is Christ's Church! At the founding of His Catholic Church, did Jesus hand out Bibles and say' promulgate my teachings which are in this bible'? Ans. No, Jesus gave the apostles the mission to teach and preach; he never explicitly said to write down his teachings in the Bible. The apostles handed on the content of Hebrew texts via the spoken word and their own experiences which became Scripture and thus defined the Bible as an aid to their mission of teaching. The Church defined the canon of the bible. Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the sole means of passing on what Jesus taught? This is a basic Protestant belief. Ans. Nowhere! However, the bible does say that the "Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth". ( 1 Tim 3:15 ) Yet you have rejected the Church that Jesus founded and instead you are a member of Luther's church (or one of the thousands of offshoot denominations). With all of these known facts, how can you still be a Protestant?
Michael K Some historical facts-You can find evidence that Peter was in Rome by reading these books and letters. Tertullian, in The Demurrer Against the Heretics (A.D. 200) - Letter to the Romans (A.D. 110), Ignatius of Antioch - Irenaeus, in Against Heresies (A.D. 190). These books are available online. Protestants of course will deny it.
Wolf GANG David Adrian Ignatius of Antioch was the first known to have referred to the church as Catholic in 110 AD. Several others did, too between that time and the year 400 AD.
Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. The fact is, there are saved and lost Catholics just like there are saved and lost Protestants. The problem here is questions like this do nothing to profit, only cause division among believers, which the Bible plainly teaches against. 1 Timothy 1:4 - Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. Christ couldn't care less whether you're Protestant or Catholic. When Jesus and the Apostles stopped at Cesarea Phillipi, He asked them who people were saying He was. Then He personally asked Peter who he believed He was ("confess with thy mouth/ believe in your heart.") Peter gave a heartfelt answer without regard to what the public was saying, which is exactly what Christ wants from us all. It is irrelevant in regards to your personal salvation if Peter was the first Pope, or if he wasn't saved until the Holy Spirit came after Christ's ascension. It doesn't matter what your denomination says, what determines your eternity is who YOU say and believe He is. The time we waste trying to prove who's wrong and who's right should be used spreading the good news of God's love through His Son instead. "Let God be true and every man a liar" Romans 3:4
The Error of the Protestant Lie: "But as for the cowardly and unbelieving, and abominable and murderers, and fornicators and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their portion shall be in the pool that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Revelation 21:8, ignored by all liars. See Rev 21:27 also. It is a foregone conclusion that Jesus Christ founded only one Church. 1) Why then, do Protestants ignore this fact and continue to splinter the Body of Christ? 2) There is no Protestant who can trace his or her church back any farther than the Protestant revolt of the early 16th century. Where is the verse which authorized them to break from the true Church in the first place? 3) No Protestant can show that their church was founded by Jesus Christ, yet Scripture says there is only one Church, the one founded by GOD (Psalms 127:1, Matthew 16:18). 4) They deny that the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus Christ founded, yet they cannot name the Church which He did found in its stead. Isn't it strange that Scripture has said that GOD's Church will last forever (Isaiah 2:2,59:21, Matthew 28:20, Ephesians 3:21), and yet Protestants refuse to name it? If Scripture can be believed at all, why then do they refuse to name GOD's one and only Church? 5) They cannot name the person who founded the Catholic Church while at the same time they deny that it was Jesus Christ. That is strange also, since every Church on earth was founded by a person with a name. Every single one of the tens of thousands of Protestant sects can be traced back to a human person with a name, as its founder. Why is it that Protestants refuse to name the founder of the Catholic Church? Isn't that the epitome of arrogance as I touched upon in a previous segment? 6) Why do Protestants spread the lie that the Catholic Church apostatized soon after the last Apostle died, and therefore the Church of today is not the one that Jesus Christ founded? This lie flies in the face of Matthew 16:18, as Protestants must then have to admit that the 'gates of hell' did indeed prevail, that the Bible was in error, and that all of the verses I have previously listed that promise the perpetualty of Christ's Church must be in error as well. This so-called "great apostasy" lie is then magnified a hundredfold since no Protestant can produce genuine historical documents which record such a "monumental, universe shaking event". Every writer who was alive at the time had to have witnessed that supposed "profound event", and those who have lived ever since (up until the time that the lie was invented by Protestantism), did not write about it either. What with the "greatest event since the crucifixion" at hand, why didn't they? It is because it never happened, that's why. Simply put, "No lie is of the truth", 1John @, so therefore no lie can be proven. Scripture does say that people within Christ's Church will apostatize, but not the Church itself. For you see, it is impossible, since Christ is the Head, and the Church is His Body. How could the Body of Christ rebel against, and leave His Head? They are inseparable forever. "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior." Ephesians 5:22-23 Okay Protestants, explain those verses? Is Christ really the Savior of His Body, or did He desert it as Protestantism would have us believe? Is Holy Scripture in error yet again according to Protestant false charges? Are we to believe the Protestant lie, or the truth of the Word of GOD? Do you recall the story of the wheat and the chaff, where the weeds will co-exist with the righteous up until the very end, and then they will be separated out and burned (Matthew 13:24-30)? "For, in the first place, when you assemble as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you; and I partly believe it, for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized." 1Corinthians 11:18-19. From those two verses we have a perfect example of the apostasy of individuals within the Church, those who cause divisions and factions. Now from what I have shown in many places in this writing, just who is the cause of divisions and factions? It is none other than Protestantism. Protestantism has already created over 36,000 divisions and factions, and which number is still increasing unceasingly every week to this very day. Who are the 'genuine among you'? They are the faithful of the one and only Church that Jesus Christ founded and which is still with us after almost 2000 years of persecution. Read Acts 5:38-39 for the reason why this longevity. For those who continue to spread the lie of the so-called, and non-existent, "great apostasy", please re-read Revelation 21:8, and endeavor to explain Ephesians 5:23-24? 7) How many verses have I shown in this writing that Protestants ignore? Isn't it a lie to say that you follow Scripture literally to the word, and yet ignore so many Scriptural verses? 8) Why do Protestants take the whole Bible literally except for John chapter 6, which they call symbolic? One chapter in the whole Bible is symbolic? How can that be true? 9) How can Protestants say that Sola Scriptura has been in use from day one, when for over 1400 years almost no one had a Bible, and even if they did, the great majority of the masses were illiterate anyhow? 10) Since Protestants believe that "all Scripture is inspired (2Tim @)", then why aren't the gospels of Peter, Philip, Nicodemus, Bartholomew, Andrew, Thomas, etc, in their Bible? 11) Where in Holy Scripture did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith is to be solely based on a book? How about the same question except for using the Apostles instead of Jesus? 12) Why do Protestants say it is the Bible which is the pillar and foundation of truth when the Bible clearly says it is the Church (1Tim @)? Please give me the name of that Church? 13) Why do Protestants reject Apostolic Tradition when the Bible clearly says, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold the teachings that you have learned, whether by word or by letter of ours." 2Thessalonians @, yet another verse ignored, and taught against by Protestantism. 14) Why do Protestants deny that the Bible came from the Catholic Church when they cannot name a truthful and provable alternate source, and where there are literally hundreds of genuine historical documents which prove them to be wrong in their denial? 15) Protestants deny that Peter was given primacy in Matthew 16:18. Nothing in Scripture is done without a purpose. For what purpose then, did Jesus change Simon's name to Peter? 16) Why do Protestants deny that the Papacy is Scriptural, when in fact, it is very Scriptural? 17) Why is it that Protestants can never supply genuine historical documents to "prove" their false charges? Is it because the lie can never be proven, but the truth can be? It is simple, if you have no truth, then you have no proof. Catholics can, and do, supply genuine historical documents to prove what they teach. Why then do Protestants refuse to read them? Romans 1:18, 2:8 18) Why do Protestants deny the unbroken line of succession of Popes down through the centuries from St. Peter to the present Pope, when the Catholic Church has given free access for anyone to research genuine historical documents to prove it to be true, but Protestants refuse to read them? Anyone can go to a secular encyclopedia and see the same succession of Popes. 19) Why do Protestants deny that the Catholic Church has existed from the first century, when hundreds of genuine historical documents, written by scores of Holy men and women, are freely available to prove them wrong in their denial? However, Protestants simply refuse to read them. As explained earlier, Protestants teach that history ended with Acts 28:30 and did not begin again until Luther came along. 20) I saved the worst Protestant lie as the last one on this list. When asked who founded the Catholic Church, there are some who answer correctly that it is Jesus Christ who founded it, but they quickly add that the Catholic Church fell into apostasy and is not the same Church today as the one founded by Jesus. Of course they have no documented proof of this world shaking event as to the who caused it and when and where it happened. By making this false charge they may have condemned themselves because they have just called Jesus Christ a liar. You see there are verses in Holy Scripture which they either choose to ignore or do not understand, and the verses show that Jesus in fact did promise that His Church would last for all time and so did St Paul:
Sheesh, you put a lot of time in this post. I find it amusing that the common enemy of many Protestants to be the Catholic Church. Yet there is no discussion of Eastern Orthodox. Also when a Southern Baptist disagrees with a Methodist, nothing is heard about it. I'm thankful to be protestant free now for 4 years. If only others would put away their pride and read Church history and teachings then they might see the beauty that I now see. When I think of Christ's Church, nothing compares to the truth, beauty, and good like our Church does.
I've met Christians who were Catholics - they had a real love for Christ and noticeable fruit in their words and conduct. We all see in the mirror darkly.
I studied the Bible in the Baptist Church and because of that the Catholic traditions made PERFECT sense to me as the whole truth. So. The opposite of what he said. And explains why Catholics who have studied are the ones who do NOT leave.
Don’t most leave the church cause they hate it? That’s my experience with catholic people I know
I think they leave because they don’t know it. They never dove deep into apologetics and learning WHY we believe what we do. Now, there are some who are leaving the church who are really just leave religion in general who probably “hate it” because they hate any belief system. But as for Catholics who become Protestant? I’m telling you, it’s mostly nominal Catholics who didn’t really study the faith. I’m just telling you from experience if you do the whole thing makes sense. So if you understand the whole picture of Christianity in Catholicism why would you leave that for a half truth in the Protestant Church? I’ll use the Eucharist for example. If you’ve studied and you know we have good reasons to believe Jesus comes to us to be our spiritual food in Holy Communion, and that all early Christians understood this and believed it, why in the world would you leave and go where communion is symbolic?
Deb Keo amen to that you are right
@@GratiaPrima_ hi there, former Catholic here of 55yrs until our dear Lord remove the scales from my eyes like in the case of Paul, and I received the gift of TRUE faith! I know alllll about the Catholic system- and the false gospel it taught. I makes me so sad because I love Catholics who are my family and friends BUT, I chose Christ and His Holy Word. The teachings of the Roman Catholic Church has not changed because it can’t- it has proclaimed itself infallible. I’m just here to worn people of this and not let their PRIDE in a religion send them to eternal death. I can recom listening to Mike Gendron and also John MacArthur on Roman Catholic teachings on you tube. That is if you really want the truth. Bless you all.
@@GratiaPrima_ you obviously cant build a wheel or house...or get along with a jewish slayve engineer that can
Catholics believe we are saved by grace through faith. Where works enter the equation is that we are expected to not only accept the free gift of faith, which cannot be earned and is bestowed by the grace of God, but also *work* to maintain our life in that grace. We are expected to do good works in order to maintain our faith, but we do not believe that any amount of good works can *earn* saving faith.
In other words, we cooperate with the grace we are given by God for our salvation.
I actually believe Catholics (converts in particular) are the most passionate Christians on the face of the earth.
Indeed. Even better, we love another with people on the inside. I believe my heart that Jesus really did established the one, true, holy, & apostolic Catholic Church. With no doubt, for some reason. You should learn more about it by going in a website called Catholic Answers.
Yes we Love God and tbh I dont understand the arguing what matters is Loving God ❤
Catholics aren’t Christians, the Bible is clear about baptism.
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@@MenacingRabbit I love this argument. It shows the ignorance of a Protestant. The Catholic Church Baptises and he is saying that we are not Christian because we Baptise. Can I please get a well thought out argument on why we aren't Christian vs. garbage like this?
I’m a Christian today, not in spite of the Catholic Church’s teaching, but rather BECAUSE of the Catholic Church’s teaching. I love Jesus and I love His Church!
lervin78 Awesome! Keep at it!
Amen!!
Is salvation by grace alone through faith alone?
@@jaredhall5886, yes by grace alone, but not by faith alone.
@@lervin78 that’s not what the Bible says..
This is laughable. I can point to many people in every century since 33 AD that were Catholic. They believed in regenerative baptism, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, a hierarchical Church with the bishop of Rome as the head. When I was a Baptist I couldn’t find anyone that resembled my beliefs until the 16th century. The Bible is a Catholic book. We canonized it in the Councils of Rome, Carthage and Hippo. I don’t need anyone in this world to tell me that I’m a Christian.
Why isn't Jesus starting the catholic church in the Bible. Jesus is not a catholic. He is a Jew. He is King of the Jews.
Jesus didn't start the catholic church. That is a lie straight from hell. Satan started the catholic church, with a lie. Satan supports the catholic with lies. There is no truth in the devil. There is no truth in the catholic church. satan runs the show.
Jesus died once for your sins. Stop doubting and believe
You are catholic. Catholics and Christians believe different things. The Christians put their Faith in Jesus. Catholics denounce Jesus. His death for the atonement of sin is not enough.
The catholic religion wants you to trust them, instead of trusting God and His Word.
Catholics are not Christians
@@Henry-eh2jk More of the Prottie nonsense that I was raised in.
@@sdboyd Why isn't Jesus starting the catholic church in the Bible?
Another proud catholic lie
@@Henry-eh2jk What an ignorant statement to make. Please do some research before you get on the internet and look like a dummy.
One thing that a lot of Protestants do not know about is that in 1999, the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation signed a joint document stating that salvation is by grace through faith. What Catholics need to realize about Protestants is that they do not believe that you get saved by saying a prayer. What Protestants need to realize about Catholics is that they do not believe you can work your way into heaven.
Isn't that generally what most catholics believe, especially in this comment section in my personal experience, works have no part of salvation.
Lie. Why do then they persist on doing mass to save a dead man in purgatory?
@@jpsatre where did you hear that? Mass is just a celebration of Jesus's sacrifice for us.
lol. youre a catholic and you dont know that? be a better catholic first rather than engage in this discussion first. haha.
@@brendonpremkumar8207 It's about time someone with reason was in the comment sections
I have never been so distressed by anything as hearing that Catholics are not considered Christians!!! WHAT??? As a child, I atteneded the Baptist church with my family, but honestly, never felt 'at home.' There was always a preacher yelling and pounding his fist on the podium, preaching hellfire and damnation, which, as a child scared me to death!
After I started dating my husband, when I was 18, who was a Catholic, I began attending Mass with him. From the first time I walked into the Catholic Church, I felt a sense of peace, like I belonged. There was a quiet reverence, not like a social gathering in the Baptist church. On the altar, at the front and center of the church, there was Jesus, hanging on the Cross. There was no question as to why you were there. The Baptist church either had a choir or a baptismal.
Christ is THE center of the church. HE is the only one I worship. Yes, we hold Mary in high esteem because God chose her as the mother of His Son Jesus, but I have never 'worshipped' her or any saint...never have and never will. My faith grew stronger and I was actually 'saved' after becoming a Catholic! So, anyone says that we're not Christian had better get their facts straight! Besides, the Catholic Church was the first Church. All protestant religions broke off of the Catholic church because they thought 'their' way was better!
Linda, Actually, I was you in reverse. I was actually away from the Church for many years (40+). I returned about 7 Years ago. Long story. I'm not saying that it was all bad...when I was away from the Church. I attended a small Non-Denominational Christian Church for about a year. A friend of mine is not Catholic. She believed a lot of the lies that were spread about the Catholic Church. Slowly, she has come to understand the Church and now defends it when she hears lies, such as the lie that "Catholics don't read the Bible.".....She knows better now. You have probably heard it said that the weak Catholics leave the Church....The Non-Catholics Churches get the weak Catholics. The Catholic Church gets the strong Christian Non-Catholics. That does seem to ring true. I was weak. Yet, I made a point of learning a lot about the Catholic Church. Thanks for your defending the Catholic Faith!!
@Sheist MCE Who is OP? HOW did she prove that Catholics don't read the Bible? Also, images are not forbidden in scripture. You really should read beyond the Verses in Exodus, the verses that forbid graven images. Later, it shows us how images of God can be made. I do know that there is a Verse in Deuteronomy, which explains why representations of God cannot be made. I'll have to look up the Verse. Later, it does show us that images of God can be made. The Verses in Exodus, that forbade the creation of graven images, is about the pagans. The pagans used to create images of things such as animals, like eagles and bulls, etc, and other created images such as the sun and the moon. The pagans created those images and worshipped them. God did not want His people to act like the pagans. He knew that they would be tempted to act like the pagans. He knew their sinful nature. He knew that they would do that very thing with the Bronze Serpent, also known as the fiery serpent. Again, there are verses beyond the verses in Exodus, that do show us that images of God can be made. I am not talking about the verses that tell us of Moses and the Bronze Serpent. Let me know, I can explain it.
@@marymac7605 Thanks so much!
@Read Your Bible What do other experts say?
@@lindahandley5267 Oh, you're welcome! God Bless, MM
This co-opting of the label “Christian” by heirs of a 16th Cent. heresy, and then the boomeranging back at the original “Christian” church with the loaded question “Are THEY Christian?” is unintentionally, and humorously, ironic
Ben Sommer Hello - If you read the scriptures- Jesus asked all his apostles- whom do you say that I am ? Peter was the first to recognize him as as Lord. If you keep reading the scriptures- Jesus told Peter when speaking to him - get behind Me satan.’ He did not give the keys to Peter to the kingdom of heaven alone/ but to ALL who believe in him and treat him as Lord. If you believe that Francis or any pope is the vicor of Christ- you’ve fallen into satans lies. Remember that God is no respector of persons- read read the scriptures- if you keep any human as a substitute or even pray to the dead -which is forbidden in the scriptures- you will be guilty of the scriptures.
Divina Eftoski hi Divina. This is off topic from my comment
David Ortiz please be charitable here. Name calling...
David Israel “cursed” “cult” “demon possessed” “getting violent”. You’re not much better in the charity department than mr Ortiz here.
@David Israel I left it at "pls be charitable" and decided to disengage, since I didn't detect an openness on your part to dialogue. But sure, I'll respond one more time.
Charity, per the catechism is: "The divine virtue by which we love God above all things for His own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God". Its embedded in many prayers & traces clearly back to NT scripture. Caritas (latin) & Agapē (greek) are often interchangeable, and translated as "Love" and "Charity", e.g. in KJB, Douay-Rheims etc.
As to confused or diabolical or stupid priests...I'll one-up you: perhaps the majority of bishops in the west are thoroughly corrupt or cowardly. Men are often (and usually these days) wicked. But if you intend to offer that as evidence that the Church is the false one, then that's kinda an ad-hominem attack. Its also an ancient heresy (Donatism) to assert that church teaching and sacraments are invalid if not governed & performed by saints. Good luck finding any human institution that isn't rife with corruption. Many leave the catholic church because of its members' corruption, mistakenly believing that if only they can find a home with good people, then THAT'S the church God intended. This is one reason why protestant denominations proliferate: "Pastor Jim is teaching wrong, let's go start a new church"
Lastly - your violent bent...I get the passion. We ARE the Church Militant - the body of living humans struggling on earth to achieve salvation and heaven. The saints in Heaven are the Church Triumphant. So - militancy is a way of life for us earnest believers. And though there's a valid approach to worldly, physical conflict ("just war") - the true militancy we in the church are called to is a spiritual one. Mentioning in two consecutive youtube comments that you'd like to kill or punch someone out doesn't show to me that you think or act from christ-centered, righteous indignation
Oh how I wish Blessed Cardinal Newman were alive today to debate this guy. If the debate were like a fifteen round fight, this "theologian" would be down on the mat and the fight would be over by the end of the first round. Been a Protestant; I am now a very happy and proud Catholic. This guy does not see the deepness of the Catholic faith but then he's only taken a very superficial look/read as his statements bare this out. Oh well, he's a Christian too. I just wish he'd quit questioning my Christianity. OK you Protestants here's the deal. You guys began in 1517. The Catholic Church began 33 A.D. and that is AN HISTORICAL FACT!
Scott Hahn or any of the CA guys would destroy this guy as well. The joke is they are using a Catholic book to try to disprove Catholicism. Doesn't work.
@The Hopper Amen!!!!!!
@The Hopper ...and definitely NOT english, nor spanish, nor cantonese neither
So what's your point?
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Have you listened to Bartholomew F Brewer: a former catholic priest who was saved by grace from his dead religion. Has a wonderful book called 'Pilgrimage from Rome' would recommend reading it.
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Not all Christians understand that the Church established by Jesus Christ was the Catholic Church. Some are of the remarkable belief that there was no "Church" and that the early Christians all just got baptized, read the Bible, and prayed together, and were "saved."
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church and commissioned the Apostle Peter as the person responsible for it after his Ascension. (Matthew 16:16-20). And we know Peter was recognized as such and that he fulfilled this role. (Mk 1:36; Lk 9:28,32; Acts 2:37; Acts 3:6-12; Acts 9:40; Acts 20:28; 1 Cor 15:4-8; 1 Cor 9:5; 1 Pet 5:2; . . . among a great many others.)
Why would Christ start a church specific to a region and a culture when he came to save all ? Isn't the kingdom invisible according to the word why would it be a building ?wouldn't that make it less accessible less "Freely" Given Wouldn't that create dividing lines as it has what about the orthodox schism what about all the traditions piled on over the centuries that aren't directly instructed in the word , what about new doctrine like the catechism? The bible says do not put your trust in man in multiple places , a theme isiah covers. Perhaps the church was built than in Antioch that was the first time people called themselves Christians in Acts , though I do not see any traces of extra curricular catholic practice in the book of acts ? So has man come up with the rest?
@@snowwhitethegypsy3842 Using your logic why didn't God the Father send many sons all over the world? You accept Jesus appeared in human form at one time period and place but refuse to believe Jesus established one Church with one leader over it - Petras, the rock - Peter.
All catholic lies. Straight from hell
Catholics are the original Christians. Protestants came 1,500 years later and are 30,000 denominations.
Right on !!!
I think it's 40,000 denominations now.
@@wade998 ........Yes, more than 40 thousand MANmade, NEW-AGED and FALSE churches like this SDA, which was founded by the Whites. Jesus warned us about their coming during his life on earth ebcause he KNEW their coming, teaching AGAINST his teachings. You can tell their FALSENESS because they NO LONGER observe that ONE and ONLY signature teaching of Jesus which is the celebration of the......MASS. ALL of these MANmade churches that exist nowadays have that good-to-the-ears, feel-good-teachings as their way to entice, lure and tempt christians to join their MANmade church. We have to remember that ALL of Jesus teachings were, are and NEVER be easy, NEVER be good-to-the-ears and NEVER be-feel-good teachings because ALL of them are meant to be HARD, to enter that NARROW GATE, where he also walked through, agate filled with sufferings, persecutions, trials, tribulations, etc.etc because the rewards are NOT here on earth ( that's fro the WIDE GATE WALKERS ) , but the rewards await for the NARROW GATE WALKERS in heaven. When Jesus says.......take up your CROSS and FOLLOW ME, he meant them EVERY SINGLE WORDS OF THAT ORDER, to follow his life,, to LIVE, ACT, SPEAK and DO just like what he DID during his life on earth. THESE FALSE churches are teachings the complete OPPOSITE, which are ALL leading to the WIDE GATE and sadly MILLIONS are falling for their TRAP. those who are FAITHFUL believers, STAY inside Jesus ONE and ONLY church.....the CATHOLIC CHURCH.
Actually the Catholic church was founded in the fourth century by Constantine.
Let me ask this question: are Protestants Christian? Is someone who believes in faith alone biblical? As a Catholic I know what the Church teaches in this regard. And there are PLENTY of protestants sitting in the pews of their church every week who never read their bible and know next to nothing of the bible and Church history, it isn't just Catholics. I don't need him telling me if I'm Christian or not.
Catholics don’t read the bible. The Church interpret the bible for you.
@@edalbanese6310 says who? We can read the Bible all we want.
@@nonya7954 thats not the point. Catholics rely on the church to interpret it for you. The Bible clearly says we have the spirit for interpretation. Of course you will disagree!!
@@edalbanese6310 Given the "interpretations" of the Bible by the JWs, Mormons, Branch Dividians, and on and on don't you think there's a reason why Matthew 16:18 doesn't say "Everyone who's heard my teachings go out and spread them according to your own interpretation. I offer no command structure post resurrection." Jesus created a single Church on earth with a single leader for a reason.
@@jimohara4796 where? Show me in the bible? Human tradition is not truth. Yes great arguments with using Mormons etc
Quick answer to save four minutes: Y-E-S
We believe Jesus died for our sins and that He is the son of God
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Sincerely a Cradle Baptist/Protestant who converted to Catholicism
So you also believe that Mary was in the beginning with Jesus heping Him creating everything?
@@Stefan-X24 you misunderstand catholic theology we don't believe that
Mary to catholics is the mother of God in the sense that Jesus is God, so it makes sense, to me at least, that she is sacred but not divine
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She must be devine because she is co-mediatrix with Christ. She is the one that dispenses mercy to us (not Christ) according to catholic dogma.
@@Stefan-X24 I’ve been Catholic all my life. If you provide a CCC citation, I would love to look into your argument
@@gavinbrunhofer3051
As a catholic, are you familiar with the terms "Nihil Obstat" and "Imprematur"?
Thank God I’m Catholic
agreed!! "Your are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church" - which church - The Catholic Church of course!
Nonsense….the “church” is referring to Jesus
Jesus is the head of the church and we Catholics make up his body.
Thank God I am not
Wow a lot of people here bashing Catholicism.99% of them don't even really understand what Catholics believe if they did they would truly convert. But that's okay because Christ did say that we would be persecuted. The Catholic church has been around for two thousand years. How many years has protestantism been around. I think you got my point
@Asaph Vapor Peter is the Rock on which the Church is Built
Mark 3:16; John 1:42 - Jesus renames Simon “Kepha” in Aramaic which literally means “rock.” This was an extraordinary thing for Jesus to do, because “rock” was not even a name in Jesus’ time. Jesus did this, not to give Simon a strange name, but to identify his new status among the apostles. When God changes a person’s name, He changes their status.
Gen. 17:5; 32:28; 2 Kings 23:34; Acts 9:4; 13:9 - for example, in these verses, we see that God changes the following people’s names and, as a result, they become special agents of God: Abram to Abraham; Jacob to Israel, Eliakim to Jehoiakim, Saul to Paul.
2 Sam. 22:2-3, 32, 47; 23:3; Psalm 18:2,31,46; 19:4; 28:1; 42:9; 62:2,6,7; 89:26; 94:22; 144:1-2 - in these verses, God is also called “rock.” Hence, from these verses, non-Catholics often argue that God, and not Peter, is the rock that Jesus is referring to in Matt. 16:18. This argument not only ignores the plain meaning of the applicable texts, but also assumes words used in Scripture can only have one meaning. This, of course, is not true. For example:
1 Cor. 3:11 - Jesus is called the only foundation of the Church, and yet in Eph. 2:20, the apostles are called the foundation of the Church. Similarly, in 1 Peter 2:25, Jesus is called the Shepherd of the flock, but in Acts 20:28, the apostles are called the shepherds of the flock. These verses show that there are multiple metaphors for the Church, and that words used by the inspired writers of Scripture can have various meanings. Catholics agree that God is the rock of the Church, but this does not mean He cannot confer this distinction upon Peter as well, to facilitate the unity He desires for the Church.
Matt. 16:18 - Jesus said in Aramaic, you are “Kepha” and on this “Kepha” I will build my Church. In Aramaic, “kepha” means a massive stone, and “evna” means little pebble. Some non-Catholics argue that, because the Greek word for rock is “petra”, that “Petros” actually means “a small rock”, and therefore Jesus was attempting to diminish Peter right after blessing him by calling him a small rock. Not only is this nonsensical in the context of Jesus’ blessing of Peter, Jesus was speaking Aramaic and used “Kepha,” not “evna.” Using Petros to translate Kepha was done simply to reflect the masculine noun of Peter.
Moreover, if the translator wanted to identify Peter as the “small rock,” he would have used “lithos” which means a little pebble in Greek. Also, Petros and petra were synonyms at the time the Gospel was written, so any attempt to distinguish the two words is inconsequential. Thus, Jesus called Peter the massive rock, not the little pebble, on which He would build the Church. (You don’t even need Matt. 16:18 to prove Peter is the rock because Jesus renamed Simon “rock” in Mark 3:16 and John 1:42!) Christ appoints Peter the first pope and the Gates of hell will not prevail against it
Asaph Vapor
The church is one
The church is forever
The church is visible
The church is hierarchical
The church is the kingdom of God on earth
The church is Truth
The church is our teacher
The church is the bride of Christ
The church is the mystical body of Christ
The church is dynastic
The church is holy
The church is apostolic
The church is a mystery
The church is Catholic
The one True Church is
The Roman Catholic Church
Lost in Space? Congratulations. You’re a Protestant
The Catholics themselves do not seem to understand what they are; how they came about.
Simply, Rome from which RCC came about was a kind of political/military power at the time of Christ and when they could not suppress Christianity adopted the policy of dilution instead by trying to mix paganism to it. The result of which remained RCC of today. However, God has been preserving/shielding the body of Christ from corruption. The foundation of God stands sure bearing this seal God knows those that are his, let everyone that names of God depart from iniquity. So, that's it very briefly.
charles akwue Jesus started one church and said it would last forever.
The Roman Catholic Church.
You do realize that there were Christians around long before Martin Luther, don't you?
Yes they where called Catholics
Such a silly response and followed by an even sillier reply;
Go back and listen around the 3 minute mark.
You both missed the point!
It’s about our relationship with God through Christ (thus the Christianity). By grace through Faith in Christ alone as the scriptures teach. All the man made denominations are but a mere balancing act between clarification or distraction.
@@KresimirKralj Sorry, your wrong. They were called Christians, not Roman Catholics. Christians, non-denominational Christ loving Christians, we’re meeting in house churches while Jesus was still alive and that is still true today. I’ll be praying for your brother. Much love
@@drummerhq2263 You may pray for me as I may pray for you brother but the truth of the matter is that the Catholic teachings began since Christ. We kept that tradition alive and the other Christianity that came after is man-made but I always say doesn’t matter how you believe as long as you believe.
@@drummerhq2263 Christians before Luther were Roman Catholics. Please read a history book.
Catholicism is the true Christian religion.
Constantine created a bunch of rules for the people in his city to follow because it was illegal to not be a “Christian “ so many non believers were entered and needed rules to make them seem holy. The. The Catholic Church started distorting the word of god and extorting it’s people and the Catholic Church has done this every since. It is not a church at all but a den of vipers.
@@jaredhall5886 Are you saying that Constantine Started the Catholic Church. He didn't. Since it looks like you most likely believe that Constantine started the Catholic Church.....You do believe that, don't you?....Prove it. Yet, IF you do believe it, don't just say that he started it...Prove it. Be specific with the details, please. Also, NO verse in scripture proves what you say. Prove it, please, first by proving that Constantine started the Church....and prove it with scripture, please. I guarantee that you can't. IF you think that you can, go for it.
As a very passive Catholic, I ask you - Who would you rather have interpreting the Bible, the Church that compiled it and has been working on it for 2000 years, or a televangelist from rural America?
So, say they changed the word a couple of 1000s years ago would It make a difference to you?
You mean the church who has used the Bible to control and manipulate catholics for hundreds of years?
@@williamgullett5911 mate, all churches do to some extent.. at least the Catholic Church is always on the spotlight and has to publically apologize and show restraint every now and then.
I don't think old school (or even modern day) Puritans or Calvinists can lecture anyone on using Scripture to abuse and manipulate their communities.
"Plant the seed, brother in financial need. It's not like 100 USD will pay your rent anyway." Please..
@@davidsousalopes2391 you say all churches di to some extent. The word says idolatry to all....
@@6969smurfy true, and unless/until you eradicate religion, it will keep on happening. Churches are man-made and man-managed. People of faith should follow something for the general ideology or message, not for poorly translated words in a book or for the guidance of someone with a funny hat.. lol
A Christian is someone who believes in Jesus Christ (that he is God) and follows his teachings. I believe Catholics believe in Jesus and they follow His teachings. We all try to follow Jesus's teachings exactly and faithfully (we try to emulate him) and we will ALL inevitably fail in one way or another. Only God knows who is going to heaven!
Yes, we are the first Christians!
No. Catholics are not Christians. The first Christians were Gentiles. Not catholic. Another catholic lie
@@Henry-eh2jkthat's a false belief from you lol
@@greensterhp You are the one who has been lied to. And you believe them.
of course we are christian, what question is this ? 🧐we pray to Jesus Christ our savior , what else could we be ?
And don't forget mother Mary yes 👍
@@axomorlora3625 true .
Naw if your praying to mary your not a christain, exodus 22 says God is a jealous God and will not share his glory with no one, he has always condemned the praying to anyone but him
@@kingslade414 Mary had a little lamb little 🐑 little 🐑
@@kingslade414 anti catholic propaganda doesn't decide who's christian or not . it never has and never will .Every follower of Christ is a christian . Zealots can speak all they want it won't alter that fact
I love how all these anti-Catholics assume things about the church when they’ve never been Catholic themselves and never actually gone in depth into what the church teaches and it’s history it’s hilarious
JEROME BURNETT you’re mistaken by the definition of church you’re thinking of only the earthly church in which the pope is the representative of Christ on earth there are three churches the church suffering the church triumphant and the church militant the pope is the earthly leader of the church militant and that’s it Christ is the overhead of the church and is acknowledge so by all Catholics and if not they are wrong in doing so
Not once has the Church ever said that the Pope owns the Church. Church isn’t something that can be owned
@@matthewbianco7417 Yes, please base your arguments off scripture. Jesus is the head of the church, not the pope. Where in scripture does it say that there are three churches? Where did Jesus ever even say that the position of pope was needed? Never. If Peter was indeed the first pope of the church, installed by Jesus himself, maybe he would have mentioned it in either of his books? Seems something quite important not to be missed, if it were true. But indeed it is not. All I can say is look back to scripture, and you will find truth.
Jane Dough I hope you realize those are relics and we aren’t a bunch of skull worshipers
Matthias Matthew chapter 16 verses 17-20
Its really sad that this “Christian” comment section looks just like any other. Snarky and argumentative like the world. I was hoping to reason on here but it all looks a bit too much like the rest of RUclips.
The elephant in the room is the fact that for 1500 years the Christian church was catholic. So according to this line of thinking there were Christian’s at the time of Jesus and then they disappeared for a while and then popped back up with Luther. Either that or their were invincibly ignorant Catholics. But why would the Holy Spirit not guide the church into true doctrine for so long? Especially to the extent this man is talking about. He’s basically saying for most of church history a majority of Christian’s were actually damned because they didn’t believe in doctrines that didn’t even exist yet like scripture alone or faith alone.
I’m not a Catholic. I’m not even sure if I’m a Protestant. I’m struggling with it but I’m not going to play bias with this. I’m going to investigate and seek the truth.
As Christianity was founded by Jesus’ apostles, i.e. the catholic church, the question is: are people outside the catholic church real christians?
TL;DR: Yes, yes they are
Christianity is eternal. It is not a religion that just came up after the year 33 AD, it's always been here. As long as we know that God is eternal, then a faith in him and his existence must also be. So no, it wasn't founded by Christ's apostles. You built your case on a fallacy, but for the sake of clarification, let's go with it. The Catholic Church isn't the apostles or the only church that came from the apostles. They were the messengers to Christ's teachings, and they didn't all go to Rome. Moreover, contrary to common belief, the Catholic Church was not always around. At all. When we were first called Christians in Antioch, there was no Catholic or Orthodox Church. In fact, it was around 500 years later that there was a Catholic Church. In the year 451 AD, a council was held in Chalcedon to dispute a certain heresy that had arisen. After the council, the Egyptian and some other churches disagreed with the decision, and became the non-Chalcedonians. We later became the Orthodox Churches. The Chalcedonians, who are now the Catholics (and who the Protestants eventually came from) agreed with the decision. Moreover, Jesus clearly stated that we need Baptism to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. He never mentioned a specific type of Baptism, nor did he ever mention a Baptism into a certain sect of Christianity (as he certainly knew the Church would divide). Therefore, all Baptized are Christians, regardless of what they believe, or what Church they belong to. If you have any thoughts or arguments, please go ahead and tell me. At the end, one of us will walk away knowing more than they did.
Also sorry for the wall of text lol.
I’m not sure why this is in my recommended, since I’m a catholic 😂 The argument that Catholics aren’t Christians has always felt really silly to me, considering historically not only did Catholicism come before Protestant branches of Christianity, but Catholics have been considered Christians for over two thousand years now, seeing as the first pope was literally an apostle. It doesn’t matter to me if someone is Protestant or catholic (or orthodox, for that matter) as long as we care for others and love as well as we can.
You claim that it doesn't matter to you if someone is a Protestant or catholic ( or, orthodox). I agree with you, to a point. A person's beliefs DO matter. I do know that some Non-Catholics deny the Trinity, call it evil and pagan. That it is NOT. The majority of main stream Christians accept the Trinity. Some accept the idea of ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, OSAS, as it is sometimes called. OSAS is right from Satan. A person's beliefs matter. I am sure that you are aware of that. I am Catholic. I often defend the faith. Not all Catholics believe the way that they should. The ones who support abortion, for example....We can't put all Catholics in one group, or all Non-Catholics in one group, saying that they are all the same. We need to look at all as individuals. We do need to care for others, love each other. Yet, again, we need to know a person's beliefs. I do know that I would not want to be in the shoes of the ones who deny the Trinity, who bad mouth the Three in One...especially on Judgement day. Just a thought.
@@marymac7605 it does matter when the trappings of tradition exceed the athority of scripture and the itching of mans ears. I am a follower of christ aand his organizational church as outlined in the book of acts and the BiBLE in general which I believe to be true, athoritative and complete for todays christian free of mans tradition .
@@howardzane572 Explain just how tradition exceeds the authority of scripture. Not all tradition is good. The Bible tells us that. Yet, the Bible does tell us to go by tradition. By tradition, I am referring to SACRED TRADITION, which are the teachings of Jesus Himself. In the very early years of Christianity, they did not have a complete Bible. The early Christians did not go by the idea of going ONLY by the Bible. The New Testament was not available for quite some time. Some of the early Christians met Jesus and heard Him preach. Some heard the gospel of Jesus from the apostles and some of the early Christians, such as Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp. Since the Catholic Church started....they could not go by the idea of going by BIBLE ALONE. How could they? They went by the Old Testaments, parts of it.....AND by SACRED TRADITION, the words of Jesus Himself!! Jesus gave the apostles the Holy Spirit to guide them and to guide the Church. The Holy Spirit teaches the Church, guides it to this day. The Holy Spirit has guided the Church to understand things better, to understand HIM, to understand the Trinity, the Three divine persons in One God. Explain just how the Catholic Church exceeds scripture? As I explained before...ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, or OSAS is not at all Biblical. That exceeds scripture. Many verses speak against the idea of 0SAS, prove it to be false. Also, the Trinity is Biblical. Some demean the Trinity, call it evil and pagan. That it is NOT. The Churches that act like life does not start at conception, that abortion is OK..it is not. Acting like same-sex marriages are OK....That all exceeds scripture. I believe we have conversed before. Do you only look at the Catholic Church, or, do you look at other Churches, too? I can't recall. I do know that there are Verses that some use , to speak against the Catholic Church.....many of those verses should not be used in that way. Again, please give me examples of traditions that you claim exceed scripture, and I will do my best to answer you on that. Just remember that not all Catholics understand their own faith, and may not be able to defend it, the same way that not all Non-Catholics can defend their faith. Thanks
@@marymac7605 ok lets assume that you are correct that the catholic church was here first what has hppened over the centuries that it has become the non biblical apostate church that we know today
@@howardzane572 It has NOT become the non Biblical apostate Church that....WE know today? You may believe that. I don't. Prove your points by using scripture. NO verse says that the Catholic Church is the non biblical apostate Church. For one thing, I trust in Jesus' promises. He did promise that Hell would never prevail over His Church. THAT is why I do not run the Church down the way that some do.....IF it really was here first.... ( It was)......It would not become the non biblical apostate Church. Saying that demeans Jesus, calls Him a liar. That I will never do. I trust in HIM totally. I focus more on HIM than on sinful man. Thank You
As a Catholic priest and monk, I appreciate the honesty and the tone of this response. Yes, exactly: one can only be saved by truth and not by error. It must be so since Christ alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Just as Dr Willis thinks some Catholics may have saving faith in Christ and true repentance, so also a Catholic thinks Trinitarian Protestants are indeed Christians and that (if their error and schism are not personally culpable) may indeed be saved. Truth matters. Error leads away from God, away from holiness.
If evangelical Protestants consider me as a Catholic to be in error, then they should bear witness to me, to help me believe the pure gospel. If a Catholic regards Protestantism as having rejected essential truths of Christianity that are necessary for sanctification and whose denial can impede final salvation, then the Catholic should likewise witness to that conviction and help Protestants to enter into Catholic unity. This still allows for ad hoc cooperation on matters of common Christian concern. We shouldn't be shrill or insulting, but we do need to be honest with one another.
Something that does puzzle me is that those who insist that Catholics are not Christian at all (given our understanding of grace and free will) do not typically apply that standard to Arminian evangelicals and to proponents of decisional regeneration and universal atonement. At the same time, most Baptists won't commit themselves to five-point Calvinism as essential doctrine, and many oppose it as damaging to the Christian mission. If that kind of diversity of opinion is accepted among Bible-believing evangelicals, then how can Catholics be non-Christian?
The simple question is: do Catcholic believe that Christ died on the cross, shed His blood and was resurected to forgive our sins?
Answer: absolutely we do…
@@billmartin3561 Thanks for replying!
when you make an anti-Catholic video and Catholics rip into your falsehoods in large scale
tim spangler could you please stop stalking me on youtube. I have no interest in speaking to you.
@@7James77 I noticed that many, maybe even all of Tim Spangler's messages have been deleted, from a lot of You Tube videos. I don't know whether he voluntarily removed them, or if he was kicked off You Tube. We used to debate a lot. He was a character. He used to deliberately pick fights with just about everyone. So, hopefully, he has stopped stalking you. Someone told me that he goes under a lot of different names. Who knows, maybe he converted to the Catholic Church?
@@marymac7605 Anything is possible 😂
@@7James77 True. I just noticed that many, if not all of his messages have been deleted. It would be great if he repented and returned to the Church. Thanks, and God Bless, MM
@@marymac7605 It is odd. I hope he has too. God bless you as well.
Dear Jesus, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy.
LOL!!!! Bryan mercy is going FULL PSYCHO AGAIN!!!!!
You are a LIAR and a DECEIVER!!!!
That includes all 100 or so of your youtube accounts
@Bin Sam
Poor psycho baby!!!!! Bryan is a LOSER!!!!
@Bin Sam
You make up people on your blogs to tell you how great you are???
LOL!!!! LOSER!!!!
Seriously!!!! LOL!!!!! LOSER!!!!
Amen
Ex-Catholic here. I never learned anything in the Catholic church. I hopped around from Catholic chruch to Catholic Church. It wasn’t for me in the end. But I can honestly say, (and I’m not speaking for anyone else but myself) I didn’t know Jesus Christ for 26 years of my life until a year ago. I accepted Jesus a few years ago and am now a non denominational Christian. Just a. Christian. Not Catholic, not Protestant, not, not Baptist. Christian.
When you were Catholic how often did you go to church? Did you go to C.C.D.? Did you ever go to Confession?
George Penton never i was pretty much atheist with the title of “Catholic” ya know?
@@Byzantium_ So you know very little about it, right?
George Penton now I know a lot about. Look if you’re going to say is still know nothing about it then just stop. You Catholics are all the same. Smh
George Penton still wanna talk? Let debate the doctrine of transubstantiation. I’m happy to.
Yes, Catholics are Christian, as we believe Jesus Christ is God who took on Flesh and laid down His life to atone for the Eternal punishment due our sins. The Difference between Catholic Christians and Protestants, is Catholic Christians believe we must do as Jesus Christ teaches, and not just have faith alone, as we must cooperate with God's saving grace and repent and bear fruit and forgive others and love one another and perservere to the end. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
Did Jesus Christ taught to kiss the feet some statues (i.e. the saints?)
Did Jesus taught to pray to statues of the some saints for miracles??
@@ammonquitalig9077 Did Jesus Christ teach Faith alone and Scripture alone? No! Yet, regarding alleged "graven images", the Bible teaches Joshua prostrated himself before an image of the ark of the covenant. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@ammonquitalig9077 The Bible does teach many in the early Church sought the mediation and intercession of mere human beings like Peter and Paul and their prayers and shadow and handkerchiefs for miracles, and so too even today, for not even death can separate us, as the prayers of a righteous person have Great power in its effects. You are in my prayers! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@matthewbroderick8756 Jesus also never taught ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, or OSAS. OSAS is not at all Biblical. I know that you know that. Sadly, some don't. Keep up the good work in defending the Faith.
I was raised Catholic. As far as I'm concerned if someone truly believes in Jesus, good works will come naturally. If someone is doing good works to avoid hell fire then the good works they do don't come from the heart.
Que yo sepa, cualquier doctrina cristiana concibe el infierno. Poniéndolo en contexto, un cristiano haría cuanto sea para evitarlo.
Exactly I've been back to the Catholic Church only for about three months being raised a cradle.I wanted to help people out not because I had to because it was a holy spirit working inside me.about a week ago I wasn't even praying but I was just thinking I would like to help somebody out and I turn into the church parking lot and what do I see. I see an elderly woman standing there with a flat tire with aJack in her hand I pulled up and said you need help and she said I was praying for somebody to come by. I truly believe that God put her there for a reason and now I called and wanted to help out at a food pantry run by the church. this normally isn't me but I know and I want to help out again not because I have to but because I want to. The holy Spirit has been guiding me my entire life but I decided recently just to sit and listen to him. He puts people and situations in your path for a reason
Key point, “ as far as I’m concerned”. God does not respect what you think rather he has given us his written word, the mind of Christ found in the Bible. The Bible is authoritative, not man or any human institution.
You can't get to heaven just by good works Alone. You gottah be in the Word daily. You must be saved Jhon 3 16
Of course you have to do good works by heart not forced. Some say they truly believe in jesus and yet dont even read the bible or pray or don't even go to church for years.
The Most Holy Catholic Church with the pontificate of the successor of the Apostle Peter is the only true Church, which was founded by Jesus Christ himself and to which the fullness of salvation has been entrusted. Anyone who knowingly and consistently rejects it rejects the visible body of Christ on earth and incurs the wrath of God with eternal damnation in the fires of hell.
Back that up with scripture. Let's pretend that you can cite your sources.
Considering the Catholic Church was founded by Christ himself, it is no surprise we’re Christians.
I must have missed the part where Christ established the Catholic Church
Clear as mud. If I meet a Catholic or anybody else, for that matter, one question I ask is, How do you get to heaven. If they answer by saying you have to be baptized (or any other work), then I know they are not saved. I don't know why this is such a touchy issue. How are we supposed to preach the Word to the whole world if we don't preach the true Good News?
Amen
I am Catholic and can tell you, you get into heaven by believing that Jesus is the Son of God and He died for your sins.
Jesus commanded baptism and you are speaking against what Jesus commanded.
But NOT for salvation! The man on the cross next to Jesus was not baptized, but he WAS SAVED!
@@georgepierson4920 I'm guessing you are referring to John 3:5 , let me ask you something , why doesn't Jesus say baptism of water in that verse, but in all verses that pertain to water baptism they all say baptism?
There are so many commenters seeming to take delight in pointing out that catholics are not Christian. That is not the way of Christ. True Christians should pray for their brothers and sisters to seek Jesus, not ridicule, judge, and condemn them. As the video points out, Catholics can be Christian and have salvation based on their faith in and acceptance if Jesus, even if they belong to a church that doesnt align with scripture. Many protestants who call themselves Christian show no evidence of faith in Christ and will not have a place in heaven. Which is better? Let's follow Christ's teaching and the apostles' example with converting religious men and women in the 1st century. The apostles didnt condemn but respected the people's devotion, then showed them a more excellent way to salvation through the gospel of Christ alone. That is what we should all be doing whenever and wherever we have opportunity.
You hit on the key to everything, tearing down your brothers in Christ is not Christian. You understand Christ outside of religion, God bless you, go in peace brother.
By following your suggestion ‘let’s follow Christ’, a Catholic will grow further to be like Christ, and will grow further away from a Catholic
Wow. As a Catholic, I had no idea people thought we weren't Christian. Yeah, I know a lot of things are different but we all believe in the same God so I didn't think people asked this question. This was kinda educational.
Autumn Wissenburg I would think that Catholics view born-agains as non-Christians. Catholics were kind of the original Christians and so everyone else is apostate.
Technically you're not.
@Bin Sam Ireneaus (189 A.D ) is shutting down Saph, BUT knowing him , he will find a way to TWIST and DenY this. The man has Ky-High Ego, even after he got shut down 4 times by 4 people.
You are not. Please wake up
@@seanpermann3561 It’s funny how non Catholics like to pass judgement on them, especially since The Catholic and Orthodox Churches were the only mainstream forms of Christianity for 1,500 years..
Interesting, every time that you open the scriptures, you are reading from a Catholic book, even using the very same New Testament canon as decided by late 4th century Catholics, first Bishops meeting in Rome (382 ad) and then confirmed by Bishops meeting in Hippo (393 ad) and Carthage (397 ad). This list of 27 New Testament writings out of 300+ early Christian writings is not found in scripture. Inconsistently for you, you tacitly trust in their authority to have decided the NT canon - yet your reject their decision on the Old Testament canon when they said it was 46 writings (7 said not be inspired by Father Luther who had no authority 1,100 years later). Inconsistent too, these 4th c Bishops ALL believed that through their words of consecration as priests, the bread and wine transformed into the resurrected Christ.
So this raises many questions for Southern Seminary :
1. Just HOW does the Holy Spirit work, consistently or inconsistently?
And what did Christ mean when he said :
2. Christ is the head of his Church. (Col 1: 18)
3. Christ''s Church is the pillar of truth (1 Tim 3: 15)
4. Christ's Church is the bulwark of truth. (1 Tim 3: 15)
5. Christ's Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known. (Eph 3: 10)
6. Christ PROMISED to lead it to ALL Truth. (Jn 16: 13)
7. Christ PROMISED that he would NEVER leave it. (Mt 28: 20)
8. Christ PROMISED that the gates of hell would not prevail (it will not teach doctrinal error) ; (Mt 16: 18)
9. Do you believe Christ was undependable and a liar as he failed repeated above, especially #6 and #8 (I hope not) ?
10. Do you believe that these 4th c Bishops - ALL Catholics - were pagans? And that you are using a (their) pagan book?
The Catholic Church has existed for two thousand years, and the oldest Protestant ones just over 500. These fundamental teachings that you speak of have existed long before any Protestant reforms, and Jesus said of this Catholic Church that he built, "The gates of hell shall not prevail against it." So then how can they be wrong, and how can the altered teachings about salvation and such be right?
Does it really make sense to say that the Catholic Church, handed down from the time of Jesus and the apostles, was the one true church for 1500 years, and then suddenly it was no longer so, and its doctrines became wrong? To think that God's own Church needed human reformers to "correct" its central doctrines is quite blasphemous, if you ask me.
@JEROME BURNETT I think you need to know something about the Bible here: it was compiled _by_ the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is not a product of the scriptures like all the Protestant ones are, but rather the Bible is a product of the Catholic Church.
Regarding popes, Peter was quite explicitly given authority by Jesus, who said, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on Earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in heaven." The other disciples and apostles respected his authority, as we see in the Council at Jerusalem (Acts 15). After Peter, there have always been popes in the Catholic Church in line with the apostolic succession, even in the first century.
Ultimately though, you haven't answered my question, and you actually seem to have reinforced it. You say that the Catholic Church "fell away," but if it did this, then there was nothing in its place. This directly contradicts what Jesus said about his Church.
@JEROME BURNETT Again, you didn't answer my comment adequately.
I said that the Catholic Church is not a product of the Bible, but I also said that the Catholic Church _compiled_ this Bible, the same Bible that the Protestant churches claim to be rooted in. So the Catholic Church cannot possibly be one such "cause of division and offenses contrary to the doctrine...," as it literally added this phrase to the collection of God's Word that is the Bible, and it formed/formalized the doctrine mentioned. And it should be noted that the "Catholic Church" is not some massive, faraway institution, but it is the community of Catholic believers under the divine guidance of the One True God.
A second point that comes from this is that the Catholic Church is not a product of the catechism. First of all, this is absurd, because the first official, written catechism where Catholic doctrine could be summed up was created over a thousand years after the birth of the Church with Peter and the apostles at Pentecost. Second of all, as I said, the Catholic Church is the community of believers, guided by God through his chosen leaders (apostolic succession gives us the popes), and it is, as St. Paul says, the "mystical Body of Christ" -- NOT the sum of a set of beliefs.
Finally, I would ask you, what church, if not the Catholic Church, is then the true Church, as founded by Jesus Christ? As I said in my initial comment, it doesn't make sense to say that it is any of the Protestant ones. As for a "non-denominational" community, where does Peter's role as first pope, or the role of the Sacraments, come in? Where is God's visible presence and guidance? It truly does not make sense any other way.
Deb Keo The Catholic Church has tampered with the Bible, and doesn’t follow God’s commandments.
Deb Keo And I find it insulting that you say the Bible doesn’t come before the Catholic Church.
“In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God” John 1:1
“And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and TRUTH” John 1:14
The Word is the Bible and the Bible is the Word. The Word is was made flesh (Jesus) and he dwelt among us. How dare you say that your church is above Jesus who not only is human but is GOD? YOU PUT YOUR CHURCH ABOVE GOD?!? Yep, I thoroughly believe the Pope is the false prophet and the Roman Catholic Church is following his lies. It’s only a matter of time before we are in the tribulation and he begins to support the Anti-Christ. I will never bow to people who claim to be above God. I would rather lose my head.
@JEROME BURNETT the bible is our doctrine dude New Testament Canon is dictated by the Catholic One True Church since early 4th century. God didn't abandon his church for 1500 years until he sent you another saviour Martin Luther lol... So yeah drop the blasphemy
I am a Filipino Roman Catholic since I was a baby, and I have an older cousin who is a Protestant. I truly love my cousin because she was like my big sister whenever whe's around with me. I am thankful for God and Jesus that she is still part of my life and that she gave me happiness and a light within my heart :)
SICK OF RELIGION, ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.
YOU CAN HAVE RELIGION BUT, DIDN'T HAVE JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE.
WHEN I'M YOUNGER I DIDN'T KNOW WHY I'M WORSHIPPING MAMA MARY, AND OTHER WOODEN SAINTS AND CONFESSION TO THE PRIEST WHERE IN FACT IT'S NOT BIBLICAL THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD EXAMINE OUR FAITH IF IT'S GENUINE OR NOT.
WE CANNOT EARN OUR SALVATION THROUGH OUR GOOD DEEDS, AND DEMAND TO GOD THAT WE SHOULD BE IN HEAVEN BECAUSE WE DO THIS SACRAMENTS, GOOD DEEDS, CHARITY ETC. IF WE DO THAT, JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR OUR INIQUITIES FOR NOTHING.
AS the word of God is written
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
@@bbm-sara1580 lol 🤣 explain to Jesus Christ
@@rebeccaanderson5626 GOD BLESS YOU. And Your Family.
THE LORD JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR US. IN ORDER THAT WE CAN'T SUFFER THE WRATH OF GOD FOR OUR SINS. HE DO IT WILLING BECAUSE HE LOVE US.
JOHN 3:16
@@rebeccaanderson5626 YOU CAN LAUGH OUT LOAD FOR THIS TIME BUT IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR IT'S TOO LATE THE REGRET IS ALWAYS IN THE END.
@@bbm-sara1580 Pls don't use caps Locks dears give the wrong kind of messages .
l believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord, ... I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting
The apostles Creed!!!✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🙏
@@davidhunter2393 The Catholic Church is anything but Holy
Even Luther mentioned the holy Catholic Church in the apostles creed
@Jon Morgan Watson Martin Luther is the founder of your faith.Unless you believe the bible came from thin air I would agree with you
@Jon Morgan Watson I was evangelical to catholic I too believe the bible was inspired by holy men spake through the Holy Ghost these where the early apostles of the Catholic Church in 1st, 2nd,3rd centuries Catholic Church put their writings together to make the bible.
You guys are aware of the fact the the Bible was put together by the Church in the first place, right?
Nah they think king James did it
You are aware of the fact that today's Catholic Church has to do very little with what happened back there right?
You’re all wrong, the Bible consists of books from the Torah (Old Testament) and the teachings of Jesus Christ are all in the New Testament. All of these books had been found which are known as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The catholic church is just another false church leading lazy people too lazy to actually read the Bible so they decide to follow a pagan pope who wears the hat that the god Dagon wore.
@@MenacingRabbit This is wrong on so many levels i don't know where to start. The fact that the early councils decided which texts would be part of the Canon is well established. Just read the research. Concerning the Dead Sea scrolls you can actually read a lot of them on line. You will find a a lot of fragments from the Old testament and other Jewish material, but no mention of Jesus. Kind of necessary if you want to talk about Jesus, don't you think? . There is a lot of research on that, done by serious scholars, not internet punks sitting in their moms basement, look it up.
@@laurentdrozin812 call me what you want but Jesus the name isn’t mentioned, His name is Yeshua. His name is mentioned plenty of times and no pagan, idol worshiping catholic has the ability to take biblical books out and call them non canonical. You cannot take or add from biblical scripture, if you’re going to question 1 book in all the books found in the Dead Sea scrolls then you’re placing the integrity of all their other books as well.
Typical catholic picking and choosing what to follow in the Bible.
Sunday isn’t even the sabbath, the Roman Catholic Church changed it.
A true born again Christian is sealed by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is very active in the life of that believer . This is the best evidence because the Holy Spirit produces fruit and ministers to the believer in ways an unbeliever cannot experience. 1st John tells us all about the hallmarks of a born again believer
@@nestproductions7420 How do you know you are indwelt by the Holy Spirit?
This would have been so funny if it wasn't so popular. Start with false statement, say it's Catholicism and then criticise it based on that. Catholicism teaches that salvation is a free gift, but has to be willingly received. So obvious. Most sincere and logical outcome of this "by grace alone" is Kalvinism, where people are born saved or doomed, and there is nothing they could do to change it. Pure nonsence.
It's true though, idolatry runs in catholicism.
@@baraneo8195 No. You're wrong.
@@damian_ski Worshiping a statue and praying to the dead. Welp thats idolatry in near completion
@@baraneo8195 if you ever kissed a picture of your mom, she would surely be offended right? And how confused you must have been to embrace a picture. Can't you see it's silly? All Catholics know, these are pictures of our beloved mother (as Jesus made us His brothers mind you). So either you are misinformed and lost or a hipocrit of ill will.
Saints are not dead. But living, united with God. Giving us examples and intercede for us.
@@damian_ski That's a foolish first start of your argument. Wrong, mary claims herself to be a handmaiden, a vessel of God and in no way or sense does she claim to be our mother. Literally, you cannot bring up the verse. Jesus is the one and only intercessor between God and man, there is no intercession of the dead as we are all asleep and wait for the day of the Lord. 1 Timothy 2:5. You worship idols. God loves us and God Bless!
Let me ask you this... does the Southern Seminary have apostolic tradition? Because the Catholic Church sure does. If your church doesnt, you technically dont have any divine authority, let alone be asking if Catholics are Chiristian are not.
The irony and ignorance in church history with this dude is so apparent and I love how this comment section is so based. Praise God!
Tradition is not truth!
@@edalbanese6310 What does that even mean? Haha Apostolic sucession is truth. It's the true history of the Church.
Whats true is that this guy's church started in America in 1859, not Israel 33 AD. No apostolic succession, that is the truth.
As a Catholic for around 70 years, I have never heard the doctrine that you can save yourself by good works. Catholics are taught salvation through the blood of Jesus just like all christians. They are also taught that it is probably not possible to be a christian without good works. It will be a sad day when you die and are kneeling before the Throne of God when you hear God say "why didn't you feed me when I was hungry?" Maybe you can tell him it wasn't necessary because you were saved by the blood of Jesus. I'm sure every denomination can find enough members without teaching falsehoods about other denominations. Keep your eyes on Jesus.
Maybe it's the hypocrisy of the RC church that others find repulsive , there stance on gays but sweep child abuse under the carpet , they claim to believe in Jesus Christ but have endorsed anti semitism for hundreds of years , , there hypocrisy is astonishing and deluded
The reason you may not have heard of that doctrine is because that particular doctrine is known as Pelagianism and was condemned as a heresy at the Council of Carthage in 418, and thus is not taught by the Catholic Church. It is because protestant leaders that up untill recently I believe that Catholics thought they could earn their way into salvation, and if I had not started learning about the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Churches on my own I would probably still be misinformed.
Good works, through the power of The Holy Spirit, are the means to eternal reward in Heaven, not to Salvation.
@@tudyk21 Are you trying to say that a person can receive salvation and still be selfish& greedy?
What about the seven sacraments, the 10:commandments, and going to confession?
Those are all works
Question:
Which one of the 200(approx) denominations of Protestants are the real Christians?
Swedenborgians. It's the Swedenborgians.
@Asaph Vapor, man, you are everywhere!
Well, on the topic, I don't believe in splitting away from my family over small (less than 10%?) disagreements. But who am I to advise you on your family issues.
By the way, before continuing, please give me one good reason for rejecting many teachings of the Church fathers, while accepting the Bible they collected and canonised.
Or the reason for the exclusion of Deuterocanonicals from the original Bible when both Jesus and gospel writers quoted from them?
Or at least the reason for projecting Sola scriptura doctrine when it's not mentioned nowhere in the scripture.
A Christian is one who accepts Gods offer of salvation and also accepts that there is only one way to do so and that is to ask for that forgiveness and to live by the example of Christ , who himself said I A M THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME .....elsehere says bygrace are ye saved NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST, which puts to bed any idea that penny indulgennces, rosary beads, mass, the confesion box, baptism as a child, money giving or anything else " earns " salvation
It's closer to 30,000 denoms.
I remember growing up Methodist and thinking even then, why does the New Testament describe only one Church and why are there now so many denominations?
It is Protestantism, not Catholicism, that is unbiblical.
Catholics never say that they are saved by grace and works. "Thou shalt not bear false witness"
Expanding on what I said above, it is not possible to do all the commands of Jesus without grace. Catholics do believe that.
I do believe the Vatican declared Ephesians 2:8-9...an anathema if anyone goes by that.
No - it’s not ‘a’ church - it’s THE church.
Its the highway to hell
I'm just Christian, through and through. But I believe that if you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord and accept his teachings you will be saved. (Romans 10:9) No matter your denomination. Just my opinion! Can't wait to see yall in heaven! God bless! 💘🙏🏻✝️
Thank you for keeping the peace god bless 🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
God bless
Of course nothing in the Bible say " if you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord you'll be saved" That the sinners prayer and made up by evangelicals.
@@jgood3047 Um yes it does. Romans 10:9 like I said in my original comment
You are PROTESTANT Christian, don't steal the title Christian, you anglos are THIEVES
So when you say Protestant, which of the 45,000+ denominations are you speaking for?
Luther was catholic, this means that the catholic were the ones that was against the catholic church, because of the false teachings of pulgatory, praying to saints, but the catholic church wanted to burn Luther alive.
@@paulariveraa3512
Hi. How could Catholics be against Catholicism? That makes no sense.
Also, praying for the souls in Purgatory has been a doctrine since before Jesus was born. Praying to saints has been a practice since the first century in the days of the apostles.
I'm not sure how they can be false teachings when they've existed since the days of the early Christians.
colour pink Because Luther protested the corruption in the Catholic Church, so the wanted to kill him
@@lf9081
"Luther protested the corruption in the Catholic Church"
Are you making him out to be a hero? Luther taught that Moses was an idiot, that men could be polygamous, and that adulterers and murderers would enter Heaven provided they believed in Jesus. How is he the good guy in this?
"so they wanted to kill him"
And we'll just ignore the Catholics who were murdered for refusing to convert to Protestantism. Totally fair.
Liz Ferrara Have you ever read the 95 theses? Luther’s only objection was that paying money for indulgences so that St Peters basilica could be rebuilt because the original had burnt down was immoral. He had no problem with indulgences though!
www.luther.de/en/95thesen.html
Did you know Luther was a complete fruitcake? After reading Luther’s quotes in this link below you will want to puke knowing this is the father of your heretic movement! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
www.davidlgray.info/
The authors of this video are very ignorant. I’m asking them to engage with me in a debate on the legitimacy of Catholicism. Will you respond or will you hide?…
They will hide. Cowards
there are many variants of the catholics. what sect do you belong to? plus matt 16:18, read it in greek. no one is hiding.
@@DUZCO10you calling people cowards will not take you far. have engaged with many catholics snd hate seems to be a common element. how about love as Jeseus showed?
@edalbanese6310 read my comment again. There is no hate. I'm stating what they'll likely do: hide and they are cowards for it. Nothing more nothing less.
Hate is what you read into my comment
@edalbanese6310 as for love, I love Him and His holy Catholic and apostolic church. The same one where the remains of the apostles rest because for the first 1,000 of Christianity EVERYONE was Catholic
Protestants in a nutshell...
“are the people who founded Christianity Christians?”
And that's totally not question-begging, right?...
The apostles were all liars and Charletons then they built a church on there lies
@@karazor-el9596 sure pal
Whoever calls on the name of Jesus
And trust him as savior is CHRISTION
Unless they also commit idolatry.
@@baraneo8195 who commits idolatry?
@@niakoch9390 catholics.
I'm a roman catholic.... and a christian.... How could you even contemplate that I'm not? roman catholics are christians, devout followers of the Christ - Sure, we pray for the intercession of Our Lady and the saints..... But at the heart, the core of our faith, is the recognition that Christ died for our sins.... We are therefore 'Christ'ian 🙄
As the denomination Protestant indicates, they are protesting against the Catholic Church no wonder they end up thinking that we are not Christians. Catholics are the original Christians that's a fact, protestant follows the teachings of Luther ( FORMER CATHOLIC) and the division occured by his arrogance is the result of the division among protestants themselves.
We are Catholics and we are definitely Christians. The problem is people are not asking us the question. They are 'telling us' as if we don't know ourselves. We know who we are!!!
as long as you pray to the dead, worship Mary and the saints and rely on the false doctrines of the church of rome then you have a problem........we are told to come out of the camp of apostacy and THAT is what must be done by those who personally accept Gods offer of salavation ...it is NOT something which is bestwed upon babies who have no idea of what is going on but rather is a personal decision which has to be made
@@johnjohnston7580 John.... The catholic church gave the world the bible itself. Meditate on that for a moment :)
@@hawneedog that may well be whAT YOU ARE TAUGHT BUT i HAVE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID NOT EXIST UNTIL THE DEATH OF cONSTANTINE AT WHICH POINT HIS TITLES ETC WERE HANDED OVER TO THE EXISTING CHURCH AND AS FOR THE BIBLE i THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT THE LETTERS OF THE DISCIPLES AND OTHERS WERE WRITTEN WELL BEFOR CONSYTANTINE SO IT IS COMPLETELY WRONG FOR YOUR CHURCH TO TELL YOU THAT it GAVE IT TO YOU
Protestant have some nerve asking if the people who give them their Bible are saved. The Bible has many Books that pretty much says faith and works will manifest themselves in each others 🙏
@Asaph Vapor Amen!...not to mention the RCC have 7 extra books that are Not Biblical!
@@lydiapetra1211 IF those 7 Books are NOT Biblical as you claim, Why were they included in the Original King James Version, and kept for 274 Years, from 1611? Those 7 books were kept from 1611-1885!! IF they were NOT Biblical, WHY would it have taken Non-Catholics 274 Years to Figure that out? Guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God? Were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they decided to include them, and KEEP them from 1611-1885?? ( Non Catholics finally had them removed in 1885. ) OR, were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they had those books Removed in 1885 ? Which is it? One way or the other, they were NOT guided by God. Which is it?
@@lydiapetra1211 I noticed that you responded to Asaph Vapor....Did you ever notice that ALL of his comments are GONE? Many You Tube videos have DELETED his many comments, or He deleted them himself. IF he is so right....why are his comments ALL GONE? Totally gone....
@@marymac7605 because the world hates Truth!! And the world is ruled by Satan!
Let's face it the RCC is Satan's greatest Hoax! And people foolishly belied and believe and follow all the teachings of the RCC! .. which are doctrines taught by demons!!!
Truth is found in the Bible...but people are too lazy to study it instead they just believe the garbage taught by their priests who are just as lost as they are....the blind leading the blind....very sad...!!!
@@marymac7605 those 7 books are heretical....Not Biblical!
It's the RCC who has included them...and the RCC persecuted and murdered God's people who came against it....it's through the Reformation that God used to bring His Truth alive...
Every person that follow Jesus message (Love God and love the others) is a true christian. End of the explanation.
There's more to it and the New Testament is our only guide!
Not true. A person who has confessed with their mouths and believed in their heart that Jesus Christ is Lord and in repentance accepted Him as their Savior is a true Christian. Platitudes do not count. I’m not intending to be rude but instead want everyone to understand so they get it right. You must have a personal relationship with Jesus.
Time is short, and even though that statement has been said for millennia, only now is everything set for the events in Revelation to take place. The only thing I see missing is a restored temple in Jerusalem. Interesting, exciting and terrifying times. Take care!
Jesus spoke, exposed, destroyed, mentioned, and taught a whole lot more than that!
Oh I'm sorry, I thought he said to have eternal life you must be baptized with Water and the Holy Spirit and to keep the commandments
Even the devil and his league of demons believe and confesses Jesus is lord. The day will come when man will say. We preach in your name and cast out demons in your name and the Father will say, Depart from me you workers of evil, I never knew you!
The terms Grace alone and Faith alone are not found in the Bible except when St. James tells us "We are not saved by Faith alone". Read James 2:24. "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only"!
Agree. ADDITIONALLY........ Jesus LAID OUT so clearly in Matthew 25:31 to 46, Matthew 7:21 to 23 and James that WORK is Jesus NUMBER ONE requirement for the person to enter his heavenly Kingdom. As we can see and read in Matthew's chapters.....he sent ALL those who are so called FAITH-FILLED to HELL because they lacked that one thing........WORK !! Then, add what James says that........WORK without FAITH is dead, likewise, FAITH without WORK is also dead. PLUS add Jesus words or reminder to his disciples that..........They/people will know that you are MY disciples, MY Followers, MY brothers and sisters, MY real BORN-OF-GOD children by your FRUITS/BY your WORKS.. ...Jesus said these words HIMSELF, so for these people esp. the man in this video to claim that FAITH is the W, is making Jesus a Liar ! they are also SOWING DISCORD, so they will answer to Jesus when their Judgment day comes.
@Asaph Vapor Let me answer this one for you, Mr. Doinky man ( see how I sent back your OWN word to you?/) FAITH AlONE....means, Doing WORK is NOT the way to obtain that FAITH because FAITH is a GIFT FROM GOD. A person can not say..... I am going to give money to the poor in my church , so I can have the fAITH my Friends have. I want what they have, of having that solid and strong FAITH. WORK can NOT produce FAITH, otherwise that person will BOAST. HOWEVER......Since FAITH IS A GIFT from GOD given with GRACE to those of whom God gives ( because NOT everyone is given with FAITH ), so to those who are given that FAITH, he/she is EXPECTED to bear FRUITS/WORKS, otherwise, that FAITH which is given from GOD would just become a ......DEAD FAITH OR, would become a man who was given TALENTS, but buried it, thus, he did not gain any profit, so when the master came back /Jesus, he was NOT happy that he did NOT gain any from what he GAVE to the man, sort of like....YOU who has a DEAD FAITH. See? I just answered your Ephesians 2:8 to 9 in less than 10 minutes and without any effort in it. You know why?? because this is a REPEAT topic that I must have answered FOUR TIMES !!!! Debating with you is getting by the minute because you are so sloooow ans shallow in biblical understanding. YOU do NOT have ANY spiritual discernment at all, Asaph !!!! NONE !!!! More tomorrow , since it's my prayer time. i have so MUCH to THANK Jesus with, for giving me knowledge to CLEAR UP his REAL teachings from a DECEITFUL person like you.
@Asaph Vapor ...Your understanding of Ephesians which CONTRADICTS and OPPOSES to Jesus words in Matthew 25:31 to 46 shows your Ignorance of this verses. that's why you easily BELIEVED these FALSE Pastors because you have NO spiritual discernment. FAITH must bear FRUITS/GOOD WORKS , because WITHOUT that GOOD WORK, WITHOUT that gOOD WORK, your FAITH is meaningLESS and can NOT help you to enter jesus Kingdom. Says WHO???? Jesus HIMSELF. You truly are the DRAGON'S SEED with this understanding and TWISTED version of this Verses and no wonder you are LOST. NOW, you have NOTHING left since I just debunked the very core belief you had. You and the others FALSELY Relied on this single verse with a VERY VERY FALSE understanding of this verse. Look how it CONTRADICTS to jesus own words. Are you drunk when you posted this comments?????? Completely ZERO comprehension, Zero !!!
A landmark report on Tuesday found that at least 330,000 children were sexually abused by clergy and lay members of church institutions in France over the past 70 years.
If only you non Catholics could hold to your marriage vows as well as you could cite scripture to suit your purposes.
@Asaph Vapor If only Prots could stop incest in Alabama.
Lmao, I'm from the most Catholic country in the world : Brazil. I don't even need to say anything more, look at carnaval. That shit was invented and developed in a country where until the 90's almost (if not more) 70% was Catholic. Also, most of the Catholics practised fornication.....
Lets us pray for each other please put your faith in christ and trust him
Look not to men or traditions but to please God
Short answer is yes
The issue is protestants came into being until the 15th Century, so there was no "valid church" for about 14 centuries?
Nope. The Catholic Church was in the beginning suitable. The institutionalization of the Roman Catholic Church created a corrupt church.
@@bendover4668 The Catholic Church was not known as the Roman Catholic Church in the very beginning. It was not known as the RCC until King Henry VIII called it the Roman Catholic Church. He was angry that the Pope would not let him divorce his wife and marry another woman. So, he called it ROMAN Catholic. He meant it as a derogatory term. Sadly, the name stuck. Also since you say that the RCC created a corrupt Church, you are calling Jesus a liar. He promised that Hell would not prevail, and Hell has not prevailed. It really makes no sense to look at the sinners in any Church, to focus on what sinful man has done or not done. Without JESUS, no Church is any good. Every Church is full of sinners. The Catholic Church is no exception. When Jesus is taken out of the equation, no Church is any good. When do you claim the RCC got its start? What Year? Just remember that the Catholic Church, the one many call the RCC was not called the RCC. It was not known as the RCC until King Henry VIII called it the Roman Catholic Church. I have heard some claim that Constantine affected Christianity, that he corrupted Christianity. To say that is to demean Jesus. He did promise that Hell would not prevail . And Hell has not prevailed. Choosing to focus ONLY on sinners makes no sense. I choose to focus ON JESUS. IF you are out to look for evil, you will find it. Every earthly Church is corrupt because it is run by man. Yet, JESUS IS the Church. He is the Head of the Body of Christ. He is all that matters. I choose to not focus on sinful man, because Without Jesus, every Church is corrupt. HE makes the Church great. Something to really think about.
Because there were no other churches xdddd
@@bendover4668 It's just the Catholic Church. There are over 20 rites. "Roman" (actually "Latin" is the correct title) is the Church of the West and happens to be the largest. But all 20+ are in communion with each other.
@@bendover4668 there is no "roman" catholic church. It is just the catholic church which is made up of 2r diferente churches..the roman le latin portion is only one branch..you hace eastern catholic like byzantines, green catholic melkite, maronites, or iraquí chaldean churches
Catholic is Christian, and Christian is Catholic. Vatican II says the Church of Christ is the Catholic Church. Protestantism is not Christian. Only the Catholic Church is Christian. Protestantism never had and never will have any authority to define any dogma or doctrine. Some Protestant denominations agree with some of the Catholic/Christian teachings, for example the Holy Trinity, but the dogma of the Holy Trinity was defined by the Catholic/Christian Church. Protestantism has defined no Christian dogmas, because the only authority to define Christian dogmas is the Catholic/Christian Church.
All Christians are saved because we believe in Jesus! Thank you Jesus for saving us
Yes... you are right...but a Christian refers only to a true believer who is born again and led by the Holy Spirit....who lives according to the New Testament only!
@@nestproductions7420 that's not what I wrote... please reread what I wrote!!!
@@nestproductions7420 I didn't mention the Old Testament.... only the New Testament... what is it that you don't understand so I can explain it to you.
@@nestproductions7420 Christian means follower of Jesus according to New Testament...the New Testament is God's infallible Truth and Word!
Anyone who is not born again as in John 3:3 will never go to heaven....the New Testament is the only direction, instruction and teachings sanctioned by God...
If you follow any other teachings than the New Testament than you follow doctrines taught by demons!!
@@nestproductions7420 dude... you have the right to go to hell.... if you reject God's Truth...that's where you are going.
What’s funny is that I’ve been Catholic for forty-two years: alter boy to Christmas & Easter Catholic, read and watched Catholic and Apologetic videos, read Trent, countless masses, looked it Catechism, etc and I haven’t once heard or read, “your saved by faith + works.” It’s the oddest thing, the only people that preach faith + works are Protestants who think we preach it.
We do preach it, Andrew. Faith plus works is sound Catholic doctrine. Read Matthew 25:31-46.
George Penton that whole discourse is predicated in our acceptance of Christ as our Savior. Those virtues by themselves don’t get is to heaven, but a reflection of Christ in us. Works based Gotta read Trent, brother, “ “If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or by the teaching of the Law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema” (Session 6; can. 1).
I think we are in agreement, Andrew. The Church teaches that faith without works is dead but she also teaches that works without faith is dead. Where Catholics and Protestants differ is that Catholics believe that faith is just the beginning whereas Protestants think that faith is all we need. Catholics see salvation as a process. Protestants think salvation is a one time event where they have an emotional experience after giving their hearts to Jesus at a revival meeting. There is nothing wrong with giving your heart to Jesus, of course, but salvation is a lot more than that. If a Protestant gives his heart to Jesus but goes back to his sins, like a lot of them do, he won't go to Heaven. Worse, if he thinks his salvation experience gives him a license to sin---and many think just that---he will not go to Heaven.
Thats the problem, you go by the doctrine of catholisism, and not by the doctrine of jesus Christ, and i see you dont read the holyscriptures. Yeap your not a christian.
@Asaph Vapor Where is your evidence for that? The Church has always professed Christ as Savior. And remember, your Catholic (use our theology + Bible + worldview) just deny Church authority. So its our (collectively) theology.
God help us we're so misinterpreted as Catholics and all it takes is a history lesson but we're still misinterpreted...
Because most don't bother to actually study the historicity of the Church themselves and rely on the ignorance of others to tell them about Catholicism
@@PatrickInCayman true brother. But let us rely on each other for support. We have no friends in this world. But we have each other and our faith to the most holy. Let us spread a message of love as those have that came before us. There is so much hate in the world. Let us not be bitter. Let us prosper. For the path is least traveled but the finish line is eternal.
Clear gospel message? So clear that Protestants split into 67,000 separate churches???
huh
@@coldleo4950 its true, while Orthodox and Catholics stayed in tradition, protestants split where there are about 67,000 different ones
who are you to decide if Catholics are Christians?
He can't. Bottom line: if you have repented if your sin and put your faith in Christ ALONE for salvation, then you are a Christian.
@@michaelkapp4722 that is kind of least common denominator, maybe simplistic, but true, as far as it goes. I would add that, when we come to faith in Christ, we need Baptism into His Church. Baptism of water and the Holy Spirit.
Utter nonsense,saying our traditions go against the bible WE COMPILED. If there wasn’t Catholicism,there wouldn’t be Christianity in any form.
Very opinionated and closed-minded of you to think that way. How many religions are there on Earth? And how many of those religions are heavily based on where you're from?
I'll give a hint. The majority of us are born into a certain kind of religion, based on country, family etc.
A hard truth for you to accept is this: Jesus Christ was a real person. Outside of that, its all different stories.
@@pumpkin9916 my religion is not based on where I live,as it is Middle Eastern and I am not. Neither is it dependent on my family as I am in the process of converting in an Atheist household,I am Catholic because of the overwhelming amount of history that backs it up.
@@Somezoomer Not all individuals are religious based on location, but majorities are (Philippines 99% catholic, etc). Muslims have 3 or 4 billion followers, what makes us Christians so sure theres isnt true? Again, I'm Christian 100% lol just saying its impossible to factually know whats correct and what isn't. A mystery of the world
Protestantism is in sharp decline in the west. And it's because of 'sola scriptura'
Wow your so wrong and right in the same statment!!! This was for the comment poster not your replies. Well I think?
Sir, God is the only one to judge whether a person is a Christian. Not you. Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church, with Peter, the greatest of the apostles, as the first pope.
Where you get this information from.. the church.. 🤦🏽♂️
@@jayrocky9067 history
@@jayrocky9067 there’s physical evidence EVERYWHERE
We all know Protestantism just want to make short-cuts, then why did Luther didn't went to Orthodoxy when he spot some lapses of the Roman Catholic Church.
Luther spotted some lapses in the Catholic Church? He needed to look at himself first, to do as Jesus said....Before he judged others, he needed to remove the log from his own eye before he tried to remove the speck from others eyes....At least the Catholic Church didn't/doesn't call Jesus an adulterer and a fornicator. Luther did. Luther said that he was sure that Jesus had sex with the woman at the well. Luther also approved of adultery between husbands and wives. For husbands having problems in their marriages, his advise was 'There is always the maid." He said that he could fornicate 1,000 times a day and still be justified. He said that our Consciences are of the devil...he said that we should go and do just the opposite of what our consciences tell us. He also was known as being quite Anti-Semetic. At first, he was kind to the Jews. When he could not get them to convert, he came out and said that they should lose their rights....and have their homes and synagogues destroyed. He was actually praised in a book written by Heimlich Himmler of the Third Reich. HE notices lapses in the Catholic Church? Wow. He sure didn't look at himself, did he? He needed to.
@@marymac7605 Fantastic! Thanks!
@@lindahandley5267 Thanks so much! God Bless, MM!!
@@marymac7605 Keep saying the truth Sister!
@@lindahandley5267 I will!!
This answer does not satisfy me because I am not a Catholic nor am I a Protestant. I am a disciple of Christ and have been immersed into Christ and thus I am a Christian but I am not part of any denomination or cultural State religion.
www.desiringgod.org/articles/why-should-i-go-to-church
^^^
It really has some valid points as well as scripture such as Ephesians and Romans that state the need for being attached to such a community of believers because we are part of the body of Christ and as such we all have a role. Im just saying maybe you should consider going to church if u dont or maybe im just seeing this comment wrong cus to me it sounds like you dont attend church since you do not hv a denomination.
You should consider converting to Catholicism. Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.
Have you heard/read the early fathers? Can you make a comparison between your church to the 1st or 2nd century church.
Best comparison is Acts 2 congregation
@@gr8god4u is your church have bishops like the early church?
I was a member of Church of Christ for 38 years, I converted to Roman Catholic,, best decision of my life,,, this was kind of insulting,,, no meat on that bone if you ask me
Kind of insulting? What about?
Not the best decision of your life homie. You commit open idolatry. Not exactly the best decision. Have a nice life. God loves us so truly! Amen!
@@baraneo8195 According to you right ?
@@Bugsy0333 According to God's word not mine. It's objective that what he chose is idolatry, it's not subjective when it comes to God's word if you are a Christian. God's word can't be argued with.
@@baraneo8195 There are over 10,000 Gods what makes you think you have cosen the correct one? Just curious ?
You can't argue Gods word? Why not ?
The simple answer is yes.
No*
No because u worshipers in the name of Mary and think that mary is mother of god
@@blackairforceenergy1084 you mean Mary is the mother of Jesus (son of God), not God. Before you comment anything that is very wrong without knowledge, don't go attack someone that is false information that came from you. May peace be with you and God bless.
@@itzsachielytgaminggirl4443 but jesus said pray to the father only(god) and not mary she just gave jesus a human body jesus exists befor her so
@@blackairforceenergy1084 who said we don't pray to God and Jesus? Is that what other taught Catholic is? We pray for them foremost because they're the Father, the Son an the Holy Spirit.
Sola scriptura is unbiblical. The Catholic Church is the true church.
So Is purgatory and Mary is human. Tradition is not truth.
@@edalbanese6310 And het, you believe in the Protestant tradition of sola scriptura.
@@edalbanese6310 Catholics agree that Mary is human.
@@edalbanese6310 The early first century Church had to rely on tradition.
@@edalbanese6310 So the Trinity isn't truth? Praying for the dead to make it to heaven (aka get out of purgatory) in the Book of Macabees (which is part of the original Bible but Protestants edited it out of their versions to support their beliefs). Study the early Church if you want to believe as the earliest followers of Christ believed because they were taught by those who met and followed Jesus.
I was raised Catholic and never knew Jesus! My mom was a Catholic until she was 47 was born again and then left the Catholic Church! I left at 17 and was born again a few years later!
What do you mean you never knew Jesus in the Catholic church, the Catholic church continually preaches Jesus!!!
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Everything about Catholicism is focused on Jesus.
sounds like you both made a huge mistake. 17? and you thought you had the authority or the knowledge to know the true faith and its holy mysteries in its entirety, and then have the audacity to say that the catholic baptism was not confirming or validating to give you communion within the true faith? and to say you were born again? after already being born again through christian catholic baptism? jesus says himself that not all who cry jesus will receive salvation, even though you now presumably claim to ‘know’ Him in your schism, he says he will say to those people, he never knew you, and then you go to everlasting fire. there are no words for this ignorance and apostasy. only one. demonic.
MiraculousToons do you believe in both Testaments
You need both works and faith! Not faith ALONE look up in the bible, James 2:24-26 (this is in yall's version of the bible). AND Catholics ARE CHRISTIANS, We are the original church created by Jesus. THUS The ORIGINAL CHRISTIANS and were the Christians who died for the faith in the early church. Be reminded that Martin Luthur did change the bible taking out books (he didn't agree with) and even adding in words. Please, I ask ALL Christians BOTH CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT (yes, that include you Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, and Methodist) to look at Christian history and learn more about the Catholic faith ( there are many resources like the Catechism, which outline the Catholic Christian Faith.)
yes please! im Catholic and been watching Christian tiktoks and ppl saying the Catholic church is evil and all which is NOT true
I'm a Catholic and I Love to be Catholic, my parents taught me to pray and my nanny... And I kept that as a wonderful gift to bridge to Christ
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idolatry is disgusting
Saints worshippers
@@baraneo8195 Catholics would say it’s beyond disgusting. It’s a sin.
@@JC-hm7he Which is why is sad that people still pray someone other than God. Especially when Christ tells you to pray through Him in His name to the Father to glorify the Father in the Son. That Christ is the One and Only Mediator between God and man, that Jesus and the Holy Spirit both intercede your prayers to God, that your prayers are not to be repetitive nor in vain like the heathens. That no where in the Bible is there a single example of someone other than God being able to receive prayer, or someone being prayed to other than God that justifies such an act. 1 Timothy 2:5, Matthew 6:7, John 14:6, 13-14.
Catholics honor Mary. You tell Jesus you don’t want his mom in your home. Not nice
@Asaph Vapor ........... Well, hello there, Mr. Asaph, who got VAPORized and QUIT conversing with me because ALL his beliefs got debunked ! As ALWAYS, a babyish and kinder level answer.......YOUR words....." is Mary your Mother"? Why Catholics call Mary Mother"???????????? Someone here does NOT know nor READ the bible esp. the part where Jesus GAVE his OWN MOTHER to John telling them BOTH, and showing his GOD-SIDE Character saying........" WOMAN, behold YOUR SON" and to John, he says......" SON, behold YOUR MOTHER" !! hmmm...............let's SEE and EXAMINE as to WHY did Jesus tell MARY to look at John as HER OWN SON when they're NOT even bloodly related at all ????AND, why did Jesus calls John as SON, when John was NOT Mary's own SON???? For YOU not to understand this scenario shows you really have NO DEEP Godly understanding at all, Asaph !!! Here's WHY Jesus GAVE HIS OWN MOTHER TO JOHN and TO ALL OF US !!!!! John represents MANKIND, his CREATIONS, his CHILDREN ! Those who FOLLOW, BELIEVE and DO the commandments of GOD, his TESTIMONY are called the WOMAN'S OFFSPRING and this scenario here at the foot of the cross ALIGNS to what Revelation chapter 12 describes...........MARY, as the QUEEN in HEAVEN, is the MOTHER of all HIS CREATIONS !!! It's like......hello Asaph's brain? Are you asleep or functioning at all??? Seems like your brain is completely out of order, Asaph !! So, IF you want to be here debating , you're gonna have to make that brain of yours FUNCTION !!!
@Asaph Vapor BTW......do NOT ask me with ignorance......" where did it say in the bible?? because what i DESCRIBED YOU, the scenario at the foot of the cross, is Inside the BIBLE !!! Go REAd it !! That means.....Go FILP the pages of the bible and READ it !!!
The first time in history the word “Christian” was used is found in the Book of Acts in chapter 11 verse 26 where it says, “The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.” They were ALL Catholics as that was the ONLY Church, given Jesus started ONE church - the Catholic Church. Christian = Catholic. Nearly 1500 YEARS later a PROTEST movement was started by Martin Luther. The protesters are called PROTESTants. There are many types of Protestants with widely varying beliefs like JWs and Mormons. None are as large as the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Jesus didn't start the catholic church. The church at Antioch was a Gentile church, not a catholic church. That is how the devil twists scriptures. The catholics twist scriptures the same way. Lie's straight from hell and out of the mouth of the devil
@@Henry-eh2jk Let's see what the early Church Fathers had to say about this. St. Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of none other than John the Apostle. And do you know what he said around the year 107? He wrote, "wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." So there you have it. The bishop of Antioch, were followers of Christ were first identified as "Christians", calls those same Christians "Catholic".
Please do not say that Catholics twist the Scriptures as if it's intentional and saying it comes from the "mouth of the devil". Where do you get this attitude? Does your preacher like to bash Catholics or something? It might be more ecumenical to say that in your opinion Catholics are misguided and then state why you think that.
@@Henry-eh2jko connect your brothers in Christ with Satan, is beyond what Christ has called upon us to do. Hate is Hate and you are filled with it. Jesus can not share a heart filled with hate.
@@vinrico6704 Jesus said that those who humble themselves will be exalted and that those who exalt themselves will be humbled.
Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; and cling to what is good.
Jesus did not start the catholic church. The Bible is not catholic. Catholics are not Christians.
You twist scriptures.
May The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit bless you and continue to bless His Chosen People, the Nation of Israel.
Halleu Yah
Thank you Jesus
@@Henry-eh2jk double down, triple down, you follow the words written down on paper, the words of men, to base your faith on the hate of others is no faith at all, I can not judge you as you judge me, I do not pretend to be God as you do., I do not pretend to know anything except that I have accepted Jesus, you pretend to know Gods word, his words are unknowable. You pretend to know the path and might even point at it occasionaly yet you mock and scorn those who actually walk it. What concern is it of yours to mock and scorn the only church of Jesus Christ, the Church who wrote the Bible that you quote to scorn and hate us, what concern is it of yours?
I love how we like to pretend nothing happened between the Apostolic Age and Martin Luther. Did Luther descend from Heaven with his LONG debunked "theories" of Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and the like? This sounds like Protestant nonsense, but okay.
Sounds like you dont know what you talking about, are you trying to say that the word of GOD is not the only divine authority? Sola scrituras means : God's word only, this means don't add anything else, like the apocryphal books.
@@paulariveraa3512 I am trying to say that Christians unanimously interpreted Sacred Scripture in one way for literally 1,500 years until some German guy decided he could do it by himself and caused the worst division in the history of the Church. And that's including Gnostic, Arian, and other heresies.
You seem very smart, i will like to debate you, according with the holyscriptures, not according with catholisism, because catholisism is not scripture related. Do you accept my challenge!
@@paulariveraa3512 Okay, I mean Catholics basically compiled the Bible that even Protestants use so I'm more than willing to debate you using the Bible Christians have used for thousands of years.
@@paulariveraa3512 Also are you going to tell me that you're going to ignore what Christians throughout history believed about the Bible, biblical authority, and almost anything else? I think that it would be a disservice to all those Christians who were persecuted at the hands of the Romans and other groups to so fundamentally challenge what they believed.
Well, since the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus himself, yes, Catholic are indeed Christians. They are the original Christians who spread the Gospel, wrote the Bible (with divine inspiration) and established the faith. Over the centuries many denominations split off from the One True Church.
What does a church need be catholic! Doctrine!!! Tradition!!!
A lot of the early bishops have different traditions and views which are very different from today's catholic doctrines and traditions.
Therefore it's not very accurate to say THE church that Christ found was The Catholic Church.
Note: I do believe catholics to be Christian and I myself plan on converting.
The catholic church was not founded by Jesus
@@X_mano why would you convert to a church that preaches a false gospel?
@@Convexhull210 Protestantism was founded by man.
@@Convexhull210 Lying is a sin.
According to Protestantism all believers in Christ are automatically saved. Well, Catholics believe in Jesus. Therefore according to Protestant logic all Catholics are saved.
Right, Protestants?
Ignorant. 🤦🏽♂️
It's not that we're saved by faith AND works, but instead that we are saved by faith that it rooted in works. James chapter 2 should clear that up. Hopefully now you will see that Catholicism is good. Not even the gates of hell will overcome it, never mind some Protesters of the Church.
Are you saved? Tho?? Catholics pray to Mary and statues and have pagan symbols on popes I believe that’s idolatry and worshiping image that’s bad and you should rely on the Bible instead of the pope he claimed that god speaks in him that is blasphemy and not true read your Bible and know the truth get the kings James Bible the devil will deceived so many Christians watch out and pray for the truth because the truth is Christ
Sorry but the works should be rooted in your faith not the other way around. We do good works for the Lord out of faith that He has saved us from our sins’ penalty.
No it is of the devil but too blind to see it cause James is not written to Christians but Jews in the coming tribulation(that already happened according to catholism) but starts after the rapture. So not all doctrine is for us today and so the books from Paul are mostly for Christians and some for jews and the general epistles are mostly for Jews and Hebrew to Revelation are mostly for jews and some for christians. We are saved by grace through faith without works. Rom 3:28 Therefor we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law or Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteosness come by the law, then christ is dead in vain. And if you don't rightly devide Gods word as God demands then you get wrong doctrine like the false catholic church and is the whore of Babylon but you just don't see that. Catholics murdered millions of Christians in the early days so they are enemies of true believers and are decieved big time.
@ItsJBoB Not really cause the verses dont apply to Christians but Jews in the coming tribulation starting in revelation 6 and we are in 2 now and for them it will be faith and works to get saved cause the Jews rejected Jesus so it will be harder to get saved then... so we are now saved by faith and even if I show no fruit I am still saved cause faith gives us righteousness not works cause works we do for rewards in heaven and crowns not salvation.
If you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, you try your very best to follow his teachings and don't have hate in your heart you are a Christian regardless of whether you're Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox or whatever. I strongly refute the suggestion that we are already saved and by faith alone because plenty of people of faith have done and continue to do terrible things. You must have faith AND live your faith by your actions! Judgement day is when we truly know if we are saved in my opinion.
YES, Catholics who proclaim Jesus Christ as their Savior ARE Christians.
True, some just go to Mass and pretend to be Christian, just like many Protestants do likewise. And those Catholics as well as Protestants will end up in Hell 🔥 if they do not wake up and repent.
(Good works have a lot more to do with living in accordance with God's Word and will, and less to do with being kind or good deeds)
As for being saved, are we saved by faith alone, or faith + works?
Let's see what the Bible says
JAMS. 2:24: -A man is justified by works and NOT by faith alone.
JAMS. 2:26: -Faith without works is dead.
GAL. 5:6: -only thing that counts is faith working in love.
1 COR. 13:2 - faith without love is nothing.
JOHN 14:15 - If you love Me (Jesus) keep My Commandments.
MATT. 19:16-17 - If you wish to enter into life, keep My Commandments.
beautiful brother. one thing to add is that yes those people you mention may end up in hell, but we do not condemn nor say with assurance that they will be, all we can do is HOPE (and pray) that many will be saved including the lukewarm, including the non believers. It is in this way we show our true Christianity, praying and showing love for our enemies. God Bless.
As we Catholics always point out, the phenomenon is: "Weak Catholics become Evangelicals or Protestants. Strong Evangelicals or Protestants become Catholics." Weakness and strength here refer to: especially knowledge and understanding of the Bible, and also church history, doctrine and morals, and one's covenant (not "personal relationship" which is unbiblical) with Jesus. Those Evangelicals or Protestants who devoutly study the Bible in its fullness eventually discover that the Catholic Church is the original, authentic, and complete Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ himself and so decide to join or revert to it. Those who have not yet done so, have not yet fully studied and understood (underline: fully studied and understood) the Bible.
Asaph Vapor you obviously have not “fully studied or understood” Acts or the Bible for that matter. It was the first Pope, Peter (Matthew 16), in the Holy Spirit, who lead and presided the Jerusalem church (Acts 2). That was the birth of the Catholic Church. If you cannot see these as enough proofs from the Bible it is because you are still a weak Evangelical. You need to study more and fully understand the Bible then you’ll be lead to the true Church founded by Jesus Christ himself, the RCC!
Asaph Vapor show me where in the Bible can you find: trinity, sola scriptura, sola fide, altar call, rapture, or even, Bible. You a have a lot more to learn about the Bible. Just because a term cannot the found in the Bible doesn’t mean the idea or reality is not in the Bible.
Asaph Vapor be not afraid. Just be open to the Holy Spirit. Lets focus on where you started this debate. The church in Jerusalem. Don’t muddle it and bring up many other issues. In a debate per se that’s ruled out of order. Reread what I’ve pointed about it. As I can see you’re a so-called Bible Christian, lets stick to the Bible. Open your Bible to Acts 2 and Matthew 16. Still on the Bible... so, have you found those terms or words i challenged you to find in the Bible? Be serious. Read it. Pray. As to your question. I’ve read, studied, prayed the entire Bible many times over. Want to know in what languages, including Hebrew and Greek?
@Asaph Vapor Ha Ha still calling people troll and other names. Still changing the subject when you can not answer Still claiming that you will answer then don't """"YOU: show me where in the Bible can you find: trinity, sola scriptura, sola fide, altar call, rapture, or even, Bible ME: How simple is that troll! It's all in the Scriptures. """"" Admit it you did not finish school
Asaph Vapor you’re no longer holding on to the debate proper. You’re just saying things out of order. You lose. But that’s not the point. I invite you in the Holy Spirit to fully study and understand the Bible. I will be one in welcoming you when you join the original, authentic, and complete Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ himself.
This guy made me laugh. I’m a Roman Catholic and this guy is not only a heretic but he’s condescending. I’m glad I’m a Catholic. At least I know where we got our Bible. Good luck with that you Protestants. 🙏🏼
You were being condescending right back . Most bible translations are good ,some better than others. When you say that you have the original Bible it was not without fault. As a matter of fact it was only a couple of original Greek manuscript copies to make the KJV and a couple of the pages of Revelation were actually ripped out so they did their best.
Newer translations are based off of over 6000 Greek manuscripts and are more accurate but I’d never even consider fighting mean words with mean words. You know better and I know better.
Keep on working and praying and one day you’ll find your “ Pause Button”
I would strongly urge you to look into transubstantiation of the Eucharist and you’ll realize why that makes the Catholic gospel completely false because in order to eat Jesus’s flesh he’d have to die resurrect again every single Sunday. That in itself contributes to the false Catholic gospel and Paul was clear that anyone preaching a false Gospel will be accursed. Not to mention by definition is cannibalism and vampirism.
I was raised Catholic and the info that I’m giving to you is done out of love not only you but to keep the gospel of Jesus Christ the way it always was and should stay. I was a Catholic for over 25 years and I started doing research and that’s why I am no longer a Roman catholic.
Roman Catholicism cannot be called Christianity because Mary is a deity . Check your king James Bible and let me know if it says in the Bible that Mary was assumed was to heaven. Roman Catholics changed the Ten Commandments, The Our Father and praying to these dead “saints” is definitely against what Scripture tells us to do and that is to go directly to our creator Jesus Christ and to our Holy Father.
Would love to chat about this
In Christ’s Love
Brian
@@brianwhitaker5288 yes, I would LOVE to chat with you. You have so much of what we do twisted and in error. It’s sad really. There’s too much to type here. I’ve studied Catholicism in depth along with many Protestant teachings. (With over 33,000 different denominations it’s hard to get exactly what they are all teaching) You most definitely have the Eucharist wrong. The Catholic priest or Bishop makes present the one and only sacrifice at every Mass. We DO NOT recrucify Jesus at every Mass. Mass transcends time and space so we are truly present at the Last Supper. Look up the Jews and the Passover where they make the Exodus present at every Passover event. I’m sorry that you left the Eucharist for a lie but many do just like when many walked away from Jesus in John 6:66. Anyway, when I hear people like you who have Catholicism all wrong it only boosts my faith and makes me know that since we have the truth it can ONLY be distorted to be refuted. You have to spread lies about what we do because the truth would bring you back. I could talk with you for a very long time but I’ll pray for you instead. Just please do yourself a favor and be fair to yourself. Spreading lies about what Catholics do is destructive to you and those who hear you. We all know where lies originate from. It started in the Garden of Eden. Mary is a deity? Oh boy. Lies everywhere. God bless you.
@@brianwhitaker5288 Wow Brian, looks like you've been indoctrinated HEAVILY by protestant theology. Near most everything you say is false and relies on bad theology and superficial reading of Holy Scripture.
Sad that you couldn't take up those difficulties you had with your Catholic priest
@@brianwhitaker5288 GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FAVORITE FLAVOR OF THE MONTH CHURCH.
“See that a person is justified by works and NOT by faith alone.” James 2: 24. 😊
not understanding the context of this passage has damned millions. and it is sad indeed.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; cit is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
“For by grace (alone) you have been saved through (the work of) faith, and this (grace alone) is not from you, it is the gift of God, it is not from (Mosaic) works (of the Torah), so no one may boast. For we are His handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works (of love) that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them.” Ephesians 2: 8-10. See also Romans 2: 5-8, James 2: 14-26. 🙏
“The Case for Catholicism” by Trent Horn.
“For in Christ Jesus (Yeshua the Messiah) neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith WORKING through LOVE.” Galatians 5: 6. Father Paul, Catholic priest and apostle of Christ, says that “faith” is a WORK…. 🤔
There are many reputable videos on Catholic misconceptions by qualified speakers. Scott Hahn, Bishop Barron , Alaister McIntyre etc.
The way I see it. When christianity was being established there were experts in many fields all working together to collate what is now the Bible. They worked painstakingly on this and devoted their lives to getting it right.
When completed because of the subtlety in the nuances it was thought that it should be interpreted by those that would take these nuances into account. In an age when most people were illiterate this was thought to be the best move.
If these nuances were to be misinterpreted they could give ambiguity to the texts.
Catholicism left the interpretations to those qualified to do so and accepted the word handed down.
This was to prevent multiple interpretations leading to schisms in the Christian doctrine.
It is these schisms that have lead to all the different evangelical and protestant versions.
Just for the record Catholics do not worship Mary, she is venerated.
We dont worship statues. ( ark of the covenant had statues on it ).
Anyway if you dare to look online for reasonable Catholic answers they are there.
No excuses for idolatry, they do worship her. Praying to the dead and statues of them is worship no matter how you spit ball it. God loves us and God Bless!
@@baraneo8195 Do you honor your parents? lovingly remember your grandparents by keeping a picture of them? Belong to a prayer group? Ever asked someone to pray for you?
@@CadillacBunner Do I pray to them? No? Do I pray to the dead? No? do I exalt them? No.
Praying to someone other than God is literally idolatry.
@@baraneo8195 I know that.
My husband was born and raised Roman Catholic. I was raised in a southern Baptist church. We have had countless discussions about the differences in our churches and what we were taught growing up through the church. We have come to realize through reading our bibles together and forming strong, independent relationships with the Lord that both of our churches taught us things that we do not agree with today. It is my belief that everyone can find something their church has taught them that may be contrary to what the Bible actually says. I think being honest with one another and reading the word of God on your own time can enlighten you beyond just attending church. My husband and I are Christians and now we tend to only say that, without following up with our denomination because in the end it doesn’t matter what you identify as. It only matters if you are saved through Christ.
Hang on i was raised Roman Catholic and left the faith many years ago.The Catholic faith has a big problem .
You and your husband should read John 6. Only the Catholic Church observes this correctly
@@Bugsy0333 Well, go back and it won't be a problem
@rangers94ism The history of Catholic pedophile priests and the cover-up right to the Pope has turned my stomach away.
What about yourself what's your feeling?
@@Bugsy0333 Those pedophiles weren't true Priests. They were predators posing as priests. However, if you are going to throw stones make sure that you are not living in a glass house.
Which came first: the Bible or the Catholic Church?
Answer: Catholic Church
The Bible is not a Catholic book. Catholics did not write it, nor does their doctrines and church meet the description of the doctrine and church of which it speaks. The New Testament was completed before the end of the first century, A.D.
@@nononono4006 Strangely, the Original King James Version Bible (1611) was very close to the Catholic Bible. The Original KJV Bible contained those 7 Books...the books that Non-Catholics call the Apocrypha and Catholics call the Deuterocanonical books. The Original KJV Bible contained those 7 books for 274 Years, from 1611-1885! Those books were then removed by Non-Catholics in 1885. Those books became quite Inconvenient to Non-Catholics. They said that the books were Not Canonical. In other words, they claimed that the New Testament did not Reference those 7 books. Yet, there are about 113 Cross-References between the New Testament and those 7 books. They removed them in 1885, so that no one would know that they did belong, do belong. I learned that, interestingly, on an Official King James Version Online Bible study site. I was surprised that they even admitted that. When I first learned that, I asked myself just WHY it would have taken them 274 YEARS to figure out that those books did not belong. Guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God? Were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they included those 7 books in the Original KJV Bible and KEPT them for 274 Years, from 1611-1885?? OR, were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they had those books Removed in 1885?? One way or the other, they were Not guided by God. Which is it? I used to think that Luther had those books removed around the time of the Reformation. He didn't want those books, yet, they were included in the Original KJV Bible for 274 Years. Food for thought. Some may take this food for thought, start to taste it, start to nibble it a little, maybe even start to Digest it. Yet, some will announce that they are on a Diet..a diet from real Truth. You may have known about this, or not. We can all stand to learn something new.
@@nononono4006 The New Testament was not available at first. The Catholic Church is the one who put the Bible together, who chose which books to include in the Bible and which ones not to include. Also, some are not aware as to why Luther decided against those 7 books. ( Despite that, those books were included in the Original KJV Bible. ) At first, he wanted to keep MACCABEES II, but he felt that it made no sense without MACCABEES I, so he decided to cut them both out. (They weren't cut out). Also, there were 4 Books of the New Testament that he didn't want....that included JAMES. He called James "An epistle of straw." He also said that he wanted to "Throw Jimmy into the fire." He also based his reasonings on not wanting the 7 books on the reasonings of the Jewish Council of Jamnia. The Jews at Jamnia were Jews who were not converts to Christ. The Jews at Jamnia, being that they were not converts to Christ...had no divine Right to say just WHICH books Christians included in their Bible. Apparently Luther thought they did...or, he didn't think.? I have heard some claim that the Jews did not approve of the 7 books. There were Jews who did approve of those 7 books, who WERE converts to Christ. The diaspora Jews accepted the 7 books, accepted Jesus as their Savior. Yet, Luther chose to go along with the reasonings of the Jews at Jamnia, with Jews who DID NOT accept Christ , who were not converts, who did not want to spread the good news of Our Savior, Jesus Christ. Guided by God? I have heard that there may not have been a Jewish Council of Jamnia. Whether there was or not, Luther believed they existed, and went right along with their reasonings...with the reasonings of the Jews who were not converts to Christ. The diaspora had a real divine right to say Which books to include in the Bible. Luther thought otherwise. Nevertheless, the Holy Spirit got His way when those 7 Books were included in the Original KJV Bible (1611)....and were kept until 1885. The Original KJV Bible was quite close to the Catholic Bible. In 1885, Non-Catholics just couldn't have that. More food for thought.
Jesus came first, He still does and forever will. We have direct access to Him and He in return is our access to the Father. If there is one thing that blatantly calls into question Catholicism for me, it’s the need to submit to the Popes authority. I submit to one Authority and that is Jesus Christ. Another blatantly antithetical Catholic tradition is calling the priests, father. Jesus said in as plain a language as possible that you are to call no man father but your Heavenly Father. I find it curious that he specifically said that. It’s as if he was giving the new believers a heads up of what to avoid in the future.
@@chrismitchell45 The Bible does not outlaw calling Priests Father. Jesus meant that for the scribes and the pharisees. They did not have ultimate respect for God, the Father, in Heaven. The apostles, outside of Judas, had real respect for God, the Father, in Heaven. After Jesus said that, the apostles referred to themselves as Fathers. It has only been in fairly recent history that Non-Catholics use that verse the way that you did. Hundreds of Years ago, Non-Catholic theologians understood that verse the way that it was meant to be understood...most of them, anyway.
Just here for the historical information. Not religious whatsoever, but saw a documentary on the Knights Templar, and fell down a rabbit hole. From a non bias outside perspective, it seems silly to not think Catholics aren’t Christians. Do you all acknowledge one Creator? Was Jesus s real person and son of God? Do you all acknowledge sin and forgiveness? Then Catholics are Christians. End of story. It’s not that complicated.
Catholics derived from from the Old Testament which was translated from the Hebrew Scripture. Everyone knows the scripture may have been misinterpreted in some areas due to the limited selection of words, which hold multiple definitions. What a clusterf***. The point is, if you accept God into your heart and life, and acknowledge that he is your creator, and live a life of love, respect, acceptance, forgiveness etc, you’re a Christian. All of you are Christians in my eyes. To each and their own, cheers.
Dude the church does NOT contradict our faith!
We are saved BECAUSE we believe (- & we believe because of what we've heard from the church started by Jesus Christ!)
There is no "error" in matters of faith and morals taught by the church.
If "Protestant" was right then WHICH "Protestant" church is THE church started by Jesus Christ?
(* And WHICH "Protestant" church can trace it's roots all the way to Peter Paul and Jesus??)
@Malachy.......Your response to this yapping-with-no-comprehension man here is brilliant !! You are BRILLIANT !!!
Catholics have been believing in Jesus, And following Jesus for 2000 years now, but protestantism and the protestant doctrines of "scripture alone" and "faith alone" comes from Martin Luther in 1517. Newsflash:.... Luther is not Christ. neither are any of the other :reformers" All the protestants who want to "lead us to christ" don't even have christ. they have Martin Luther and a book that they stold from the catholic church. Luther was a drunken pervert who had mental problems and visions of the devil whom he conversed with
If a catholic tells you that he has repented and does trust in jesus alone for salvation, the next thing you should do is ask him of he still believes that he could end up purgatory or loose his slavation from mortal sin. If yes, then he/she has not grasped the Gospel yet. Catholics who reject justification by grace through faith alone believe in a Jesus that is not sufficient to pardon their sins. That's not the Jesus of the Bible. I would recommend that we should never treat a Catholic with the presumption that they have understood the real Gospel and trusted the real Jesus who is powerful enough to cleanse all mortal sins and who has finished fulfilling the law.
Romans1:17 Wow you must be proud of yourself that you are alone the one who does understand the NT and the Gospels. Congratulations and hats off. James 2:14-26, Matthew 25:31-46
You need to examine the basis on which you are a Protestant. Who founded the Catholic Church? Ans: Jesus Christ (Matt 16: 17-19) Who founded the first Protestant Church? Ans: Martin Luther (apostate Catholic priest) Why on earth would you follow the teachings of an apostate priest instead of the teachings of Christ's Universal Church? It is not Luther's Church it is Christ's Church! At the founding of His Catholic Church, did Jesus hand out Bibles and say' promulgate my teachings which are in this bible'? Ans. No, Jesus gave the apostles the mission to teach and preach; he never explicitly said to write down his teachings in the Bible. The apostles handed on the content of Hebrew texts via the spoken word and their own experiences which became Scripture and thus defined the Bible as an aid to their mission of teaching. The Church defined the canon of the bible. Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the sole means of passing on what Jesus taught? This is a basic Protestant belief. Ans. Nowhere! However, the bible does say that the "Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth". ( 1 Tim 3:15 ) Yet you have rejected the Church that Jesus founded and instead you are a member of Luther's church (or one of the thousands of offshoot denominations). With all of these known facts, how can you still be a Protestant?
Michael K Some historical facts-You can find evidence that Peter was in Rome by reading these books and letters. Tertullian, in The Demurrer Against the Heretics (A.D. 200) - Letter to the Romans (A.D. 110), Ignatius of Antioch - Irenaeus, in Against Heresies (A.D. 190). These books are available online. Protestants of course will deny it.
Dominus Vobiscum out of context brother :)
Wolf GANG David Adrian Ignatius of Antioch was the first known to have referred to the church as Catholic in 110 AD. Several others did, too between that time and the year 400 AD.
Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
The fact is, there are saved and lost Catholics just like there are saved and lost Protestants. The problem here is questions like this do nothing to profit, only cause division among believers, which the Bible plainly teaches against.
1 Timothy 1:4 - Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Christ couldn't care less whether you're Protestant or Catholic.
When Jesus and the Apostles stopped at Cesarea Phillipi, He asked them who people were saying He was. Then He personally asked Peter who he believed He was ("confess with thy mouth/ believe in your heart.") Peter gave a heartfelt answer without regard to what the public was saying, which is exactly what Christ wants from us all. It is irrelevant in regards to your personal salvation if Peter was the first Pope, or if he wasn't saved until the Holy Spirit came after Christ's ascension. It doesn't matter what your denomination says, what determines your eternity is who YOU say and believe He is.
The time we waste trying to prove who's wrong and who's right should be used spreading the good news of God's love through His Son instead. "Let God be true and every man a liar" Romans 3:4
The Error of the Protestant Lie:
"But as for the cowardly and unbelieving, and abominable and murderers, and fornicators and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their portion shall be in the pool that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Revelation 21:8, ignored by all liars. See Rev 21:27 also.
It is a foregone conclusion that Jesus Christ founded only one Church.
1) Why then, do Protestants ignore this fact and continue to splinter the Body of Christ?
2) There is no Protestant who can trace his or her church back any farther than the Protestant revolt of the early 16th century.
Where is the verse which authorized them to break from the true Church in the first place?
3) No Protestant can show that their church was founded by Jesus Christ, yet Scripture says there is only one Church, the one founded by GOD (Psalms 127:1, Matthew 16:18).
4) They deny that the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus Christ founded, yet they cannot name the Church which He did found in its stead. Isn't it strange that Scripture has said that GOD's Church will last forever (Isaiah 2:2,59:21, Matthew 28:20, Ephesians 3:21), and yet Protestants refuse to name it? If Scripture can be believed at all, why then do they refuse to name GOD's one and only Church?
5) They cannot name the person who founded the Catholic Church while at the same time they deny that it was Jesus Christ. That is strange also, since every Church on earth was founded by a person with a name. Every single one of the tens of thousands of Protestant sects can be traced back to a human person with a name, as its founder. Why is it that Protestants refuse to name the founder of the Catholic Church?
Isn't that the epitome of arrogance as I touched upon in a previous segment?
6) Why do Protestants spread the lie that the Catholic Church apostatized soon after the last Apostle died, and therefore the Church of today is not the one that Jesus Christ founded?
This lie flies in the face of Matthew 16:18, as Protestants must then have to admit that the 'gates of hell' did indeed prevail, that the Bible was in error, and that all of the verses I have previously listed that promise the perpetualty of Christ's Church must be in error as well. This so-called "great apostasy" lie is then magnified a hundredfold since no Protestant can produce genuine historical documents which record such a "monumental, universe shaking event". Every writer who was alive at the time had to have witnessed that supposed "profound event", and those who have lived ever since (up until the time that the lie was invented by Protestantism), did not write about it either. What with the "greatest event since the crucifixion" at hand, why didn't they? It is because it never happened, that's why. Simply put, "No lie is of the truth", 1John @, so therefore no lie can be proven.
Scripture does say that people within Christ's Church will apostatize, but not the Church itself. For you see, it is impossible, since Christ is the Head, and the Church is His Body.
How could the Body of Christ rebel against, and leave His Head? They are inseparable forever.
"Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior." Ephesians 5:22-23
Okay Protestants, explain those verses? Is Christ really the Savior of His Body, or did He desert it as Protestantism would have us believe? Is Holy Scripture in error yet again according to Protestant false charges?
Are we to believe the Protestant lie, or the truth of the Word of GOD?
Do you recall the story of the wheat and the chaff, where the weeds will co-exist with the righteous up until the very end, and then they will be separated out and burned (Matthew 13:24-30)?
"For, in the first place, when you assemble as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you; and I partly believe it, for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized." 1Corinthians 11:18-19.
From those two verses we have a perfect example of the apostasy of individuals within the Church, those who cause divisions and factions. Now from what I have shown in many places in this writing, just who is the cause of divisions and factions? It is none other than Protestantism. Protestantism has already created over 36,000 divisions and factions, and which number is still increasing unceasingly every week to this very day.
Who are the 'genuine among you'?
They are the faithful of the one and only Church that Jesus Christ founded and which is still with us after almost 2000 years of persecution. Read Acts 5:38-39 for the reason why this longevity.
For those who continue to spread the lie of the so-called, and non-existent, "great apostasy", please re-read Revelation 21:8, and endeavor to explain Ephesians 5:23-24?
7) How many verses have I shown in this writing that Protestants ignore? Isn't it a lie to say that you follow Scripture literally to the word, and yet ignore so many Scriptural verses?
8) Why do Protestants take the whole Bible literally except for John chapter 6, which they call symbolic? One chapter in the whole Bible is symbolic? How can that be true?
9) How can Protestants say that Sola Scriptura has been in use from day one, when for over 1400 years almost no one had a Bible, and even if they did, the great majority of the masses were illiterate anyhow?
10) Since Protestants believe that "all Scripture is inspired (2Tim @)", then why aren't the gospels of Peter, Philip, Nicodemus, Bartholomew, Andrew, Thomas, etc, in their Bible?
11) Where in Holy Scripture did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith is to be solely based on a book? How about the same question except for using the Apostles instead of Jesus?
12) Why do Protestants say it is the Bible which is the pillar and foundation of truth when the Bible clearly says it is the Church (1Tim @)? Please give me the name of that Church?
13) Why do Protestants reject Apostolic Tradition when the Bible clearly says, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold the teachings that you have learned, whether by word or by letter of ours."
2Thessalonians @, yet another verse ignored, and taught against by Protestantism.
14) Why do Protestants deny that the Bible came from the Catholic Church when they cannot name a truthful and provable alternate source, and where there are literally hundreds of genuine historical documents which prove them to be wrong in their denial?
15) Protestants deny that Peter was given primacy in Matthew 16:18. Nothing in Scripture is done without a purpose. For what purpose then, did Jesus change Simon's name to Peter?
16) Why do Protestants deny that the Papacy is Scriptural, when in fact, it is very Scriptural?
17) Why is it that Protestants can never supply genuine historical documents to "prove" their false charges? Is it because the lie can never be proven, but the truth can be?
It is simple, if you have no truth, then you have no proof.
Catholics can, and do, supply genuine historical documents to prove what they teach.
Why then do Protestants refuse to read them? Romans 1:18, 2:8
18) Why do Protestants deny the unbroken line of succession of Popes down through the centuries from St. Peter to the present Pope, when the Catholic Church has given free access for anyone to research genuine historical documents to prove it to be true, but Protestants refuse to read them? Anyone can go to a secular encyclopedia and see the same succession of Popes.
19) Why do Protestants deny that the Catholic Church has existed from the first century, when hundreds of genuine historical documents, written by scores of Holy men and women, are freely available to prove them wrong in their denial? However, Protestants simply refuse to read them. As explained earlier, Protestants teach that history ended with Acts 28:30 and did not begin again until Luther came along.
20) I saved the worst Protestant lie as the last one on this list. When asked who founded the Catholic Church, there are some who answer correctly that it is Jesus Christ who founded it, but they quickly add that the Catholic Church fell into apostasy and is not the same Church today as the one founded by Jesus. Of course they have no documented proof of this world shaking event as to the who caused it and when and where it happened. By making this false charge they may have condemned themselves because they have just called Jesus Christ a liar. You see there are verses in Holy Scripture which they either choose to ignore or do not understand, and the verses show that Jesus in fact did promise that His Church would last for all time and so did St Paul:
Sheesh, you put a lot of time in this post. I find it amusing that the common enemy of many Protestants to be the Catholic Church. Yet there is no discussion of Eastern Orthodox. Also when a Southern Baptist disagrees with a Methodist, nothing is heard about it.
I'm thankful to be protestant free now for 4 years. If only others would put away their pride and read Church history and teachings then they might see the beauty that I now see. When I think of Christ's Church, nothing compares to the truth, beauty, and good like our Church does.
I've met Christians who were Catholics - they had a real love for Christ and noticeable fruit in their words and conduct. We all see in the mirror darkly.
They worship idols.