@@larryc1616 Intel is presently a 20 Billion plant in Columbus, Ohio,let alone building about 10 other plants across the country. I don't know the numbers but to call them a distant third?
@@joaquimbarbosa896 Who would have giessed that Putin will start a war? Nuclear power would maybe have been another possibility, I don't know the cost of energy in France, e.g.
@@Julia-Richter France despite having had its worst year since 1987 in nuclear power production due to failings in security systems (wich were caused by neglected maintencen caused by 1-Being forced to sell at a loss to competitors and 2-Being forced to close reactors prematurely, a law that fortunatly was removed) still has much cheapper energy then Germany. Also, while Putin's war wasn't likely, depending so freaking much on russian gas for oyur ecnomy (with plans to be even MORE dependent on russian gas) was a HUGE mistake, Germany should've at least had 1 LNG terminal and support pipelines in other parts of Europe (wich until Russia's war they were against for "enviromental reasons") And most importantly, independent from all of this, shutting down nuclear power production was a HUGE mistake regardless, specially when their plants were running without problems. 8 plants can still be re opened fortunatly
They are also investing in manufacturing facilities in Columbus, Ohio. It is time to take the manufacturing of products back from Asia so our economies can't be held hostage any longer.
@@amiigose Actually in 2 years all Chinese technology can't keep up because they can't make the newest and fastest semiconductors. It is estimated that they will need 10 to 15 years to catch up with ASML chip technology. The next 15 years all the newest chips will come from the west.
@lastChang @ArabicReja973 Both has shown up in comments, you are the 7*24 keyboard warriors who live in the comment section. same comments split in DW, Bloomberg, and France 24.
@@Joey-ct8bm 🤣🤣🤣 lol, i think u must learn study of china 😂😂, china already prepare for this war many many year bro, like sink road, BRICS, hold 2nd large US debt, and are u dont thinking why china banned US micron chips🤣🤣, dont under estimate china bro, US says china cant enter to ISS , and now china have own space station 🤣🤣, and dont forget if china economy sick world become fevers, and germany going fall 😂😂
I must state i have shares in intel. As a bias. Though, subsidizes and incentives doesn't bother me; depending on creative financial tools used. I still agree with the chief economist to overall aspects but there are exceptions like starting a new industry, that have not been there prior, or an industry that brings in even more indirect jobs. Though i would phase out such subsidizes and incentives, once the industry is matured and organically growing.
Let's not forget that Tesla chose Germany for the location of its factory. As for the quality of its roads, clearly he hasn't seen the often horrible conditions of US roads and highways.
there US has most extensive road network anywhere on earth, so yeah, not every mile of it is in pristine condition. there is a difference between there are bad roads in the US and US roads are bad. there are bad roads in germany doesn't mean german roads are bad. there are bad roads everywhere.
Horrible roads? Compared to which country? I'm French and have been to the USA. They have great roads over there globally and impressive network of roads too.
@@jeckjeck3119 The Terminator actor ARnold S was seen filling potholes around his estate. He is a Republican and he is frustrated! He still drives a Hummmer and it still makes no difference..? Must be bad there!
It's all so close together anyway. Germany is relatively small in terms of surface area. By American standards, it's right next door and can be reached by car in a short time.
Simple because they got the biggest subsidies there. Having a big company with high paying jobs is something very attractive for less developed east German cities so they gladly give them bigger subsidies than a city that already has plenty of industry. Also cost of living is lower so your wages can also be lower.
Intel have a huge factory here in Ireland which i'm pretty sure was 100% privately financed with no subsidies. Seems odd Germany has to come up with €10bn just to get it going.
That's how American corporatism works. Welfare king Elon Musk is the best know corporatist who became rich of government subsidies. Believe Ireland (12.5) has the second lowest corporate income tax rate after Hungary (9) in Europe, yet Hungary has a whopping 27% sales tax.
@@rambleon2838 Actually, the only reason that is necessary is due to Asian countries providing subsidies for 1/3 cost of chip manufacturing for the last 30 years. Since the modern economy is global, it is basically required to provide subsidies close to 1/3 cost if you want semiconductor manufacturing in your country. Also, Western countries have higher labor and land cost, which puts them at an additional disadvantage. So, subsides are critical to secure this supply chain. Additionally, semiconductors are the foundation of technology economy, and critical for national security.
@@eyeofthetiger7 Totally agree and I do understand the dynamics of globalism and unequal competition between free democracies and state run oligarchies and the creation of jobs which pay back in form of taxes, but corporations and CEO's shouldn't get off the hook tax free through manipulated tax policies which favors the rich as is the case in the US. I'm not as familiar with corporate tax practices in Europe, but besides Hungary companies do pay a lot of taxes in the EU. We should have never allowed globalism with authoritarian regimes to begin with.
Is the presenter deaf? The guest says that subsidies are not indicative of general investment climate to which the follow up question is - can Germany compete with subsidies?!?
Because since the 90s it has became an Israel company - more money and real investment is done in Israel, all other fab around the world are just marketing departments
Contracts for those subventions are confidential? There might be a case for it, but I really would like it to be made in public. Should they be public looking into them should be the main part of reporting.
Congratulations, Germany. Digitization is the future, I guess. Even Siemens Mobility AG Germany including Siemens made trains will surely take advantage of the digitization trend. German train technological products are also Germany's main export item. 🙏
getting rid of corporate tax is not an option. Out of all of his problems he listed, bad infrastructure: roads and railwails and also reducing the burden of bureaucracy are the lowest hanging fruit. Just reduce the HOURS it takes to be compliant with laws. If instead of needing 2000 professional working hours to be compliant you could reduce it to 1500 professional working hours... Even medium sized businesses have to spend around 240 professional working hours on being compliant - and even more time to catch subsidies most companies would even ignore. Some of which could be alleviated by moving more of it digitally, but not just copy what we had into digital, actually create a way to more efficiently extract the information you need. First off all, move everything over to one platform, cities and union states clearly don't have the knowhow to make website infrastructure, just have the federal level provide it and everyone uses it together. It can even be for profit competing with other website making products with some caviats. I'm sure you can't just remove all the requirements for compliance and catching subsidies, but there's a big indifference about making the experience faster and cheaper on the user side.
ASML specializes in the development and manufacturing of photolithography machines which are used to produce computer chips. They don't really design chips, just build other companies chips.
Why should Germany pay anything? They want to sell their products here. Just come up with EU laws to restrict imports from i.e. China. And proper taxation.
@@crazychinese7315 who cares. They want access to European markets like any other company. Why should Germany pay for it? It doesnt matter if they are produced in the US or Germany.
Most semiconductors are made in Taiwan which is why they are doing this not just in Europe but in America as well since there is a very real possibility that China will invade Taiwan, there would then be a severe shortage of semiconductors and China would have huge leverage in claiming Taiwan annexation by promising to allow semiconductor production to continue in exchange which the world can't function properly anymore without.
i appreciate the courage of news anchor for wearing those shoes with blue suit, i can never make public appearance in that color combination, it's so brave to wear it.
Mate, when you have a study about economic performance putting Portugal in front of Germany, you automatically lose all the credibility.. Studies just for sound bites, they represent less the 20% of the the reality..
Tesla tried to invest $1 billion in Germany to build the EV factory but the whole project was delayed by all kinds of weird incidents and bureaucracies. Germany is not competitive and attractive any more.
So the main guy "Math" that designed the giant leap in chip design was killed. He took a break after he designed it and they told him during they would stagger releases. He had his partner working with another company 'amd' for a competing chip that would be slightly different so there wouldn't be a monopoly. He was pissed about the release platform so he got burned and macheted by one of the Farid slaves sent to do it. The partner didn't know how to do the work so it got pushed back decades.
Employees can’t feel belligerent toward their employer. Especially in technology. Everyone must be willing to compete - work harder - build experience.
Germans are highly reasonable people philosophy is deeply rooted in the intellectuals there. Germany is economy number four in the world but in creativity is the first.
It's a good thing as long as the receiving country can't be blackmailed with the investment. I don't say China is _already_ blackmailing them, but the suspicion is not unreasonable, at least they try to "buy" themselves new "friends", as seen in many votes in the UN.
@@hape3862 how come people are not suppicions about american companys while they literally known for blackmailling countries or threat them sanctions!!
@@Harvyydent I agree. The USA has been the bully of the world for at least the last 20 years, rather since WW2. We Germans were and are as critical of this as you are, believe me. We are _not_ an occupied country or vassal state of the US, we _didn't_ enter the Iraq war, we have always (since WW2, mind you, hehe) used our military only for peacekeeping missions. We have always been against sanctions, for example we were the ones who negotiated the Iran deal and the Minsk agreement, both of which unfortunately failed. We have tried to trade fairly with everyone, including Russia and China. But when it comes to deciding which side we are on, it is crystal clear that we share most of the values of the Western democracies!
@@hape3862 I dont have nothing against german my friend, I really wish german well, But i just find weird how news outlets bring american foreign investment in a postive way, But when china or saudi arabia does they bring it out as negative or something to be worry about!!!
@@Harvyydent Didn't you follow the NordStream news? Russia built it allegedly in our both best interest. We even sold our subterranean gas storage facilities to Russian Gazprom!!! And then they blackmailed us - long before the war and the destruction of the pipeline! "Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!" Russia (together with the USA and the UK - not Germany, btw) guaranteed Ukraine *sovereignty and territorial integrity* in 1994(!) in the Budapest memorandum; in turn Ukraine gave all its nukes from the Soviet era to Russia. Tell me: Who violated the treaty and who is indeed protecting Ukraine??? And ask Sri Lanka which experiences they have made with selling their port to China? Most African States aren't able to pay the mortgage rates they owe to China for the "bargain infrastructure". Who do you think has to bail them out in the end? Everyone is entitled to make their own experiences with authoritarian regimes, but we are entitled to warn others, aren't we?
Wow, a bank who thinks that lower taxes are better, that is really unpredictable. I wonder if people from the left side of politics for example like a trade union leader, think that higher taxes help to redistribute wealth, so that the poor don't get left behind. More importantly, I wonder how balanced DW is, does DW let the trade union leaders have just as much time to explain how higher taxes help to redistribute wealth to the poor, compared to the amount of time DW gives to Banks to explain how lower taxes help the rich to get richer (or whatever he was trying to explain).
What nonsense are you talking about? The German language and its ability to describe technical things precisely has made it possible for Germany to become a technical leader for many decades.
@@michaelroth2783 The language is still important. The problem in Germany is the left wing politics and wrong energy politics, not the German language.
Due to significantly higher energy costs Germany is experiencing major setback in its industries. The damage to the economy will take decades to recover. 😭😭😭
It is useless the making of higher cost of chips has no market competition. The final step of chip-making only the people who use chapsticks can do better, like Taiwan, Korea and Japan.
Industrial electricity prices in Germany are 400% higher than in America. And it wasn't much better before the war in Ukraine. Without massive subsidies/tarrifs, industry would have disappeared in Germany a decade ago. And it isn't the price of natural gas that's the problem. .
Not sure where you getting all this information from…Commercial electricity prices in Germany were on par with USA before pandemic…Plus Companies are getting more conscious with carbon emissions whereas USA produces one of the dirtiest electricity in the world and is responsible for Carbon emission 800% that of Germany…!
@@quettagladiator5272 commercial electricity prices were never on. Par with the US. Dirtiest? Germany literally got rid of nuclear power of winch the US produces the most of for coal, and not just any coal literally the dirtiest most polluting coal on the planet
Germany will switch back to nuclear power in a few years, that's inevitable. It simply takes time to vote the existing politicians out of office and inform the voters.
There are chips in our phones designed to ignore certain calculations from being done. Those mathematical algorithms could be very progressive in electrical engineering. The CIA knew, and now chips like these will never help advance mathematics. As much as that math can help us advance, it could shut down binary bits in these chips. We keep saying we are advancing when we really are ignoring the most important problems in math. edit: For example: math can be ethical, and ethical math can be integrated at the foundation of building our Artificial intelligence. Allowing us to overcome corruption and terrible social problems that are sure to occur in Artificial intelligence.
@@davidemberson8607 What is nonsense is that people think the internet is a safe place to put your your private information. If massive companies including the government cannot do anything about bots, scam callers, that use everybody's private information, then people are not able to trust the security of their information let alone the security of the internet at all. If private and public entities cannot even begin to protect vulnerable people then they surely cannot protect themselves.. right down to the core of the internet. More importantly reversing cryptography is a vulnerability for chip makers and they specifically try stop people from doing what hurts their business at the source of their product, by owning what you do with it. Even if that means being anti-competitive or even by preventing progress in mathematics. It is actually a simple problem with the internet: keep your vulnerabilities secret; but many do not know keeping those secrets are preventing progress.
Nice try comparing private investment and business interests from US companies with Chinese strategic statefunded take over. We have learned from the Gazprom disaster to not get involved with companies run by their governments as it is no longer business. It's politics then.
I prefer Apple's M1 chips... much faster, much more energy efficient and smaller - whilst more robust. Intel has been wasting everyone's time and investments.
Only faster in a certain WATT range, Above 50 watts apple has nothing that can compare to AMD & INTEL If they would have a chip of 100 watts, it would indeed destroy the competition... But they don't, sadly :)
@@JOKEMMM AMD focuses on graphic power. different story. But Intel is dead.. it's like BMW and Mercedes trying to grasp even a portion of what Tesla has developed in the past 20 years. They can't. Too far behind. Intel is too far behind Apple. It's over.
Damn that's a great catch for Germany, tens of thousands of high paying jobs and important future tech know-how secured
They will be replaced by robots anyway. LOL.
chip making is automated
@@user-zt4zr7eg6z Why even bother breathing..
We'll all be dead evemtually..
(sarcasim)
No competition against #1 TSMC and #2 Samsung both building FABS in USA#1🇺🇲
@@larryc1616 Intel is presently a 20 Billion plant in Columbus, Ohio,let alone building about 10 other plants across the country. I don't know the numbers but to call them a distant third?
"Intel signs €30 billion deal for facility in Germany" This was the title! And not what are Germanys plans for the future!
If the industry had supported going green, energy would be much cheaper in Germany today. Just saying.
Yeah, and it was germany/german companies that wanted gas to be seen as green energy. They got themself to blame
Or maybe just don't close your nuclear reactors while becoming more dependent on gas?
@@joaquimbarbosa896 Who would have giessed that Putin will start a war?
Nuclear power would maybe have been another possibility, I don't know the cost of energy in France, e.g.
@@Julia-Richter France despite having had its worst year since 1987 in nuclear power production due to failings in security systems (wich were caused by neglected maintencen caused by 1-Being forced to sell at a loss to competitors and 2-Being forced to close reactors prematurely, a law that fortunatly was removed) still has much cheapper energy then Germany.
Also, while Putin's war wasn't likely, depending so freaking much on russian gas for oyur ecnomy (with plans to be even MORE dependent on russian gas) was a HUGE mistake, Germany should've at least had 1 LNG terminal and support pipelines in other parts of Europe (wich until Russia's war they were against for "enviromental reasons")
And most importantly, independent from all of this, shutting down nuclear power production was a HUGE mistake regardless, specially when their plants were running without problems. 8 plants can still be re opened fortunatly
@@joaquimbarbosa896If Zaporisha was a power plant harvesting wind or sun, Russia couldn't weaponize it.
They are also investing in manufacturing facilities in Columbus, Ohio. It is time to take the manufacturing of products back from Asia so our economies can't be held hostage any longer.
It sounds like a lots of lobbying...
From Magdeburg here✌️
Betting on Germany 🇩🇪 or Japan is a good bet. But on China, it's a bad bet anyhow.
- Basically, Chinese economy is very sick. There's no cure.
😂😂😂 germany going sink to ocean 😂😂 lol
@@amiigose Not too obvious there are you Lee Ping, or whatever ?
@@amiigose Actually in 2 years all Chinese technology can't keep up because they can't make the newest and fastest semiconductors. It is estimated that they will need 10 to 15 years to catch up with ASML chip technology. The next 15 years all the newest chips will come from the west.
@lastChang @ArabicReja973 Both has shown up in comments, you are the 7*24 keyboard warriors who live in the comment section.
same comments split in DW, Bloomberg, and France 24.
@@Joey-ct8bm 🤣🤣🤣 lol, i think u must learn study of china 😂😂, china already prepare for this war many many year bro, like sink road, BRICS, hold 2nd large US debt, and are u dont thinking why china banned US micron chips🤣🤣, dont under estimate china bro, US says china cant enter to ISS , and now china have own space station 🤣🤣, and dont forget if china economy sick world become fevers, and germany going fall 😂😂
EU is the second largest economy in the world
Well yes. You can say Earth is the first largest economy in the world as well
its the fastest shrinking economy in the world. EU is surving because of German people Tax
@@kmtsvetanov Only because of Germany
The EU is basically tied with China for 2nd
I must state i have shares in intel. As a bias. Though, subsidizes and incentives doesn't bother me; depending on creative financial tools used. I still agree with the chief economist to overall aspects but there are exceptions like starting a new industry, that have not been there prior, or an industry that brings in even more indirect jobs. Though i would phase out such subsidizes and incentives, once the industry is matured and organically growing.
So why not subsidice Infineon or especially subdicide SMEs. SMEs cant move their taxes into tax heavens are more robust and lasting.
Let's not forget that Tesla chose Germany for the location of its factory.
As for the quality of its roads, clearly he hasn't seen the often horrible conditions of US roads and highways.
there US has most extensive road network anywhere on earth, so yeah, not every mile of it is in pristine condition.
there is a difference between there are bad roads in the US and US roads are bad.
there are bad roads in germany doesn't mean german roads are bad. there are bad roads everywhere.
I filled potholes voluntarily and guess what? They dig them out .
Horrible roads? Compared to which country? I'm French and have been to the USA. They have great roads over there globally and impressive network of roads too.
@@jeckjeck3119 The Terminator actor ARnold S was seen filling potholes around his estate. He is a Republican and he is frustrated! He still drives a Hummmer and it still makes no difference..? Must be bad there!
why not in Dresden or Leipzig? Semi-industrial needs a lot of peripheral resources, and in Dresden, everything is ready.
Dresden has a history of getting firebombed by the Allies.
Dresden is already full with other semiconductor companies, so the local workforce in sphere migth already be exhausted.
It's all so close together anyway. Germany is relatively small in terms of surface area. By American standards, it's right next door and can be reached by car in a short time.
Simple because they got the biggest subsidies there. Having a big company with high paying jobs is something very attractive for less developed east German cities so they gladly give them bigger subsidies than a city that already has plenty of industry. Also cost of living is lower so your wages can also be lower.
The reason was available space. There was no place near Dresden or Leipzig that was big enough and prepared to host such a big factory.
100 billion investment in new plants in Ohio.
Intel have a huge factory here in Ireland which i'm pretty sure was 100% privately financed with no subsidies. Seems odd Germany has to come up with €10bn just to get it going.
That's how American corporatism works. Welfare king Elon Musk is the best know corporatist who became rich of government subsidies. Believe Ireland (12.5) has the second lowest corporate income tax rate after Hungary (9) in Europe, yet Hungary has a whopping 27% sales tax.
@@rambleon2838 Actually, the only reason that is necessary is due to Asian countries providing subsidies for 1/3 cost of chip manufacturing for the last 30 years. Since the modern economy is global, it is basically required to provide subsidies close to 1/3 cost if you want semiconductor manufacturing in your country. Also, Western countries have higher labor and land cost, which puts them at an additional disadvantage. So, subsides are critical to secure this supply chain. Additionally, semiconductors are the foundation of technology economy, and critical for national security.
@@eyeofthetiger7 Totally agree and I do understand the dynamics of globalism and unequal competition between free democracies and state run oligarchies and the creation of jobs which pay back in form of taxes, but corporations and CEO's shouldn't get off the hook tax free through manipulated tax policies which favors the rich as is the case in the US. I'm not as familiar with corporate tax practices in Europe, but besides Hungary companies do pay a lot of taxes in the EU. We should have never allowed globalism with authoritarian regimes to begin with.
I guess this is Intel de-risking and Germany benefiting from "friend-shoring".
Excellent 👍 Germany has high level skills we need Germany to be part of the decoupling from China
Germany is _not_ decoupling from China, that would be foolish, we de-risk instead. America should do the same.
Is the presenter deaf? The guest says that subsidies are not indicative of general investment climate to which the follow up question is - can Germany compete with subsidies?!?
A month later … this did not age well
Awesome news ❤
My question is,why Intel doesn't stay in US ?!
Because since the 90s it has became an Israel company - more money and real investment is done in Israel, all other fab around the world are just marketing departments
They are planning to invest over $100 billion in US, too.
@@frankpham1782 You are a liar,Intel is still an American company.
@@JigilJigil $100 Billion is TSMC investment into the US, not intel
@@valevisa8429 When was the last time you saw a CPU that was "Made in U.S.A"
Contracts for those subventions are confidential? There might be a case for it, but I really would like it to be made in public. Should they be public looking into them should be the main part of reporting.
Esp. why not helping SMEs in Germany that are especially under pressure.
Germany has way too much bureaucracy
Congratulations, Germany. Digitization is the future, I guess. Even Siemens Mobility AG Germany including Siemens made trains will surely take advantage of the digitization trend. German train technological products are also Germany's main export item. 🙏
getting rid of corporate tax is not an option. Out of all of his problems he listed, bad infrastructure: roads and railwails and also reducing the burden of bureaucracy are the lowest hanging fruit.
Just reduce the HOURS it takes to be compliant with laws. If instead of needing 2000 professional working hours to be compliant you could reduce it to 1500 professional working hours...
Even medium sized businesses have to spend around 240 professional working hours on being compliant - and even more time to catch subsidies most companies would even ignore. Some of which could be alleviated by moving more of it digitally, but not just copy what we had into digital, actually create a way to more efficiently extract the information you need.
First off all, move everything over to one platform, cities and union states clearly don't have the knowhow to make website infrastructure, just have the federal level provide it and everyone uses it together. It can even be for profit competing with other website making products with some caviats.
I'm sure you can't just remove all the requirements for compliance and catching subsidies, but there's a big indifference about making the experience faster and cheaper on the user side.
Why Intel? We need European semiconductor brands. We've got ASML in Europe. Why not try to do it ourselves?
Because the principle goal is to outpace China in the chip war
You need intel, asml isn't enough
I thought they are trying. It's just not an easy task and will probably take a long time.
ASML specializes in the development and manufacturing of photolithography machines which are used to produce computer chips. They don't really design chips, just build other companies chips.
ASML is a global superstar - but it is only one part of the semiconductor chain
Why should Germany pay anything? They want to sell their products here.
Just come up with EU laws to restrict imports from i.e. China. And proper taxation.
Intel products? you know Intel is not a Chinese campany right?
@@crazychinese7315 who cares. They want access to European markets like any other company. Why should Germany pay for it?
It doesnt matter if they are produced in the US or Germany.
@@user-zt4zr7eg6z because the Americans quite literally owns your country, do I need to remind you that you are still under the American occupation?
Most semiconductors are made in Taiwan which is why they are doing this not just in Europe but in America as well since there is a very real possibility that China will invade Taiwan, there would then be a severe shortage of semiconductors and China would have huge leverage in claiming Taiwan annexation by promising to allow semiconductor production to continue in exchange which the world can't function properly anymore without.
@@sistinechroma no since they move everything back to the US.
Technically Germany would probably be ahead of China.
Technically Germany is ahead of China in every scientific field.
Intel is loosing the tech war with tsmc they are stuck in 10nm lol
@@渡海-q2w TSMC is not Chinese.
@@chillxxx241 That's not quite true. Strictly speaking, China and Taiwan are one country with two systems. Read some history books.
@@OpenGL4ever That is absolutely untrue, but keep up the good work CCP bot!!!!
i appreciate the courage of news anchor for wearing those shoes with blue suit, i can never make public appearance in that color combination, it's so brave to wear it.
Was he trying to match his hair?
Anyway, he's a cutie, isn't he?
Many corporations are rigged by intelligence agencies to control humanity 😅
Mate, when you have a study about economic performance putting Portugal in front of Germany, you automatically lose all the credibility.. Studies just for sound bites, they represent less the 20% of the the reality..
Cooperate taxes are harmonized bro!
This is how good Chinese 🇨🇳 semiconductor industry is:
10,000 Chinese chip developers closed their companies in 2021 to 2022.
@lastChang @ArabicReja973 Both has shown up in comments, you are the 7*24 keyboard warriors who live in the comment section.
@@kioly_ah 11 month old CCP bot crying 😢
@@χσχσ-ν3χ hhhh
@@χσχσ-ν3χand you are 8 year old cry baby from west.
Intel is loosing the tech war with tsmc they are stuck in 10nm lol
Tesla tried to invest $1 billion in Germany to build the EV factory but the whole project was delayed by all kinds of weird incidents and bureaucracies. Germany is not competitive and attractive any more.
30 bill yet they fired so many people
ehre mehr jobs für uns!
Quatsch. Alles nur vom Staat subventioniert.
So the main guy "Math" that designed the giant leap in chip design was killed.
He took a break after he designed it and they told him during they would stagger releases.
He had his partner working with another company 'amd' for a competing chip that would be slightly different so there wouldn't be a monopoly.
He was pissed about the release platform so he got burned and macheted by one of the Farid slaves sent to do it.
The partner didn't know how to do the work so it got pushed back decades.
Employees can’t feel belligerent toward their employer. Especially in technology. Everyone must be willing to compete - work harder - build experience.
more personal data stored
Intel will end up just like IBM.
It is not only a possibility , is even more inevitable.
Unless a major change in culture.
Happy Melon = the most active Wumao on youtube.
@@ThomasMcKeon-rw4sm I mean the "original old King" IBM .
Current IBM is not IBM, only left the name.
I also feel sad for HP , visit them in 80's
@@JigilJigil Just call people Wumao and don't want discussion, already tell who you are. BOT.
@@happymelon7129IBM is a huge company what changed their direction many years ago.
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Germans are highly reasonable people philosophy is deeply rooted in the intellectuals there.
Germany is economy number four in the world but in creativity is the first.
OMG we're losing our identity 😱
Maybe if Germany decreased the taxes and the bureaucracy...
Better develop European technology
The MSP430 and ARM CPU architecture were designed in Europe.
Its a horror story coming up...
Brexit wins again. 😂
when American multinational corporation invest in foreign country is a good thing for that country, But when china does it u say is a bad thing!!!
It's a good thing as long as the receiving country can't be blackmailed with the investment. I don't say China is _already_ blackmailing them, but the suspicion is not unreasonable, at least they try to "buy" themselves new "friends", as seen in many votes in the UN.
@@hape3862 how come people are not
suppicions about american companys while they literally known for blackmailling countries or threat them sanctions!!
@@Harvyydent I agree. The USA has been the bully of the world for at least the last 20 years, rather since WW2. We Germans were and are as critical of this as you are, believe me. We are _not_ an occupied country or vassal state of the US, we _didn't_ enter the Iraq war, we have always (since WW2, mind you, hehe) used our military only for peacekeeping missions. We have always been against sanctions, for example we were the ones who negotiated the Iran deal and the Minsk agreement, both of which unfortunately failed. We have tried to trade fairly with everyone, including Russia and China. But when it comes to deciding which side we are on, it is crystal clear that we share most of the values of the Western democracies!
@@hape3862 I dont have nothing against german my friend, I really wish german well, But i just find weird how news outlets bring american foreign investment in a postive way, But when china or saudi arabia does they bring it out as negative or something to be worry about!!!
@@Harvyydent Didn't you follow the NordStream news? Russia built it allegedly in our both best interest. We even sold our subterranean gas storage facilities to Russian Gazprom!!! And then they blackmailed us - long before the war and the destruction of the pipeline! "Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!"
Russia (together with the USA and the UK - not Germany, btw) guaranteed Ukraine *sovereignty and territorial integrity* in 1994(!) in the Budapest memorandum; in turn Ukraine gave all its nukes from the Soviet era to Russia. Tell me: Who violated the treaty and who is indeed protecting Ukraine???
And ask Sri Lanka which experiences they have made with selling their port to China? Most African States aren't able to pay the mortgage rates they owe to China for the "bargain infrastructure". Who do you think has to bail them out in the end?
Everyone is entitled to make their own experiences with authoritarian regimes, but we are entitled to warn others, aren't we?
Wow, a bank who thinks that lower taxes are better, that is really unpredictable.
I wonder if people from the left side of politics for example like a trade union leader, think that higher taxes help to redistribute wealth, so that the poor don't get left behind.
More importantly, I wonder how balanced DW is, does DW let the trade union leaders have just as much time to explain how higher taxes help to redistribute wealth to the poor, compared to the amount of time DW gives to Banks to explain how lower taxes help the rich to get richer (or whatever he was trying to explain).
Couldn't possibly care less what the liberal left thinks! They're like lemmings.
CCP who?
EU can't survive without Chinese 😂😂
So is the case with US…!
Germany's survival stands or falls with it's willingness to give up on the G E R M A N L A N G U A G E
What nonsense are you talking about? The German language and its ability to describe technical things precisely has made it possible for Germany to become a technical leader for many decades.
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The decades are over
@@michaelroth2783 The language is still important. The problem in Germany is the left wing politics and wrong energy politics, not the German language.
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The problem is only the German language
The world speaks English now
German was ok in the 19th century, but not today
@@michaelroth2783 Wrong, the majority of the world speaks Chinese.
Due to significantly higher energy costs Germany is experiencing major setback in its industries. The damage to the economy will take decades to recover. 😭😭😭
Yeah spend those billions into renewables instead. It makes no sense to build more factories.
High energy costs > supporting Russia
BS, there will be a revolutionary break thru in nuclear fusion soon which will change the energy dependency on rogue nations.
It is useless the making of higher cost of chips has no market competition.
The final step of chip-making only the people who use chapsticks can do better, like Taiwan, Korea and Japan.
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Industrial electricity prices in Germany are 400% higher than in America. And it wasn't much better before the war in Ukraine.
Without massive subsidies/tarrifs, industry would have disappeared in Germany a decade ago.
And it isn't the price of natural gas that's the problem. .
Not sure where you getting all this information from…Commercial electricity prices in Germany were on par with USA before pandemic…Plus Companies are getting more conscious with carbon emissions whereas USA produces one of the dirtiest electricity in the world and is responsible for Carbon emission 800% that of Germany…!
@@quettagladiator5272 commercial electricity prices were never on. Par with the US. Dirtiest? Germany literally got rid of nuclear power of winch the US produces the most of for coal, and not just any coal literally the dirtiest most polluting coal on the planet
Germany will switch back to nuclear power in a few years, that's inevitable. It simply takes time to vote the existing politicians out of office and inform the voters.
There are chips in our phones designed to ignore certain calculations from being done. Those mathematical algorithms could be very progressive in electrical engineering. The CIA knew, and now chips like these will never help advance mathematics. As much as that math can help us advance, it could shut down binary bits in these chips. We keep saying we are advancing when we really are ignoring the most important problems in math. edit: For example: math can be ethical, and ethical math can be integrated at the foundation of building our Artificial intelligence. Allowing us to overcome corruption and terrible social problems that are sure to occur in Artificial intelligence.
This is utter nonsense.
@@davidemberson8607 What is nonsense is that people think the internet is a safe place to put your your private information. If massive companies including the government cannot do anything about bots, scam callers, that use everybody's private information, then people are not able to trust the security of their information let alone the security of the internet at all. If private and public entities cannot even begin to protect vulnerable people then they surely cannot protect themselves.. right down to the core of the internet.
More importantly reversing cryptography is a vulnerability for chip makers and they specifically try stop people from doing what hurts their business at the source of their product, by owning what you do with it. Even if that means being anti-competitive or even by preventing progress in mathematics.
It is actually a simple problem with the internet: keep your vulnerabilities secret; but many do not know keeping those secrets are preventing progress.
America >>> depend to Germany >>> Germany depend and need on China .... fascinating ....
China .... is idling by ....
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Nice try comparing private investment and business interests from US companies with Chinese strategic statefunded take over. We have learned from the Gazprom disaster to not get involved with companies run by their governments as it is no longer business. It's politics then.
China needs EU & US markets otherwise they collapse.
Besides lousy tax breaks, Germany has too many rules and regulations.
For example, did you know you can't operate an electric scooter on German roads?
Take it back to the US
Couldn't pay me to have an electric scooter.
Terrible idea to invest in an area where Russia is going to obliterate
Russia can't even take 25% of Ukraine. There's no way it can even begin to take Germany
hahaha
Day dreaming again?
Ruzzia is O V E R
how are they going to obliterate when they cant even equip their own soldiers with decent gear.
I prefer Apple's M1 chips... much faster, much more energy efficient and smaller - whilst more robust. Intel has been wasting everyone's time and investments.
M1 isn't faster
Only faster in a certain WATT range,
Above 50 watts apple has nothing that can compare to AMD & INTEL
If they would have a chip of 100 watts, it would indeed destroy the competition... But they don't, sadly :)
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@@JOKEMMM AMD focuses on graphic power. different story. But Intel is dead.. it's like BMW and Mercedes trying to grasp even a portion of what Tesla has developed in the past 20 years. They can't. Too far behind. Intel is too far behind Apple. It's over.
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Did Germany have work force. Majorty of its population is old. How it will work in Germany. Its will be a loose for Intel