Review: Kuretake Sable Brush Pen No 40 & 50
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- The Kuretake Brush Pen No. 40 & 50 can use ink converters and refillable ink.
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Just want to let you know these brush and fountain pens reviews are very helpful for beginners. They stood the test of time so far, as I'm watching them in June 2022! Thanks so much
Kuretake is superior. The Kuretake is Well built, a nice weight, robust and reliable and a great pleasure to work with. Another great review, thank you for sharing.
I love your reviews of traditional mediums and especially pens or brushes or markers. Please do more of these, Parka!
It's ongoing, but I also create other types of videos to mix things up
i just bought the kuretake - its the best brush pen ive ever used
i became a member of your Patreon and I encourage others to contribute, too :) love your videos. your style is so gentle and informative. truly wonderful. thank you.
Thanks for your support 😁
You can refill the pentel brush with staedtler mars ink for better flow c:
+Daniela Betancourt Thanks for the tip.
Teoh Yi Chie g
have you ever experienced any clogging with this ink?
I've been debating on picking up the #40 or #50. I've been enjoying using my fountain pen with my Pentel brush pen, which was recently stolen. At least the perp's bag wasn't pressurized, and it blew up all over their clothes! Oh, right: All fountain & brush pens must travel in the plane's carry on with you, NO EXCEPTIONS, or it ruins everything. Pentel has an explicit warning about depressurization. Never had issues, with my pens sideways, or upright with me, sketching by the window.
Excellent video. I am going to order a Kuretake 40. thanks.
I use these with Rotring ink now. I have all you other ones you reviewed 😂 but Rotring gives nicer lines
Great demo!
Excellent review. Thank you.
Thanks :-)
Tech Yi Chie, I watched all of your Brush Pen videos, I decided to purchase a brush pen with a small tip with natural brissiles, Thanks for all your videos, big help.....
Brett Thorndike : which brush pen did you buy?
Thanks for the review. I have had a pentel bp for years, but have been very curious about the others, because of the sable hair. I hadn't realized they could use a converter, which is great. A questin about filling - when you refill with the converter, do you put the brush end into the ink too, like you would with a fountain pen, or do you fill the converter separately?
You can refill in either way. I will take out the converter to refill. There's some sort of hole near the bristles that I'm not sure if I want to block.
+Teoh Yi Chie great thanks!
I really love how comprehensive your reviews are.
I was wondering on the durability of the kuretake brush pens. How do these pens hold up after many years? Do they bristles get frayed?
Great review! Question: which would you say is better for very small details and lines, the Pentel or the Kuretake? I'm fairly new to brush pens, so I'd like to go with an option that would be slightly easier to control, while still producing good, organic lines.
+Mr. Prometheus Personally I prefer Kuretake with the natural hair bristles because they last longer.
As always, thanks for sharing! I love this brush pen. I love the strokes, it is beautiful and rich looking. Do you draw everyday? How long have you been drawing? Did you see that Liz Steel has you on her blog today? You're FAMOUS!
+Red Gemini Arts Thanks. I've only been drawing more seriously since 2005.
+Teoh Yi Chie Which ink do you use? I'm so afraid to get these kind of brushes and pens, I'm afraid I won't know how to change the ink. I'm going to purchase it but, which ink should I use?
+Teoh Yi Chie Can I get another color ink? I would like to get like brown. Again, which ink should I get to use for watercolor sketching?
+Red Gemini Arts I suggest Noodler's Ink, Platinum Carbon Black, Sailor Kiwa Guro. Someone suggested Staedtler Mars ink. I guess you can try Rotring ink as well. I would use Noodler's first to try.
+Red Gemini Arts There are not a lot of coloured inks for watercolour sketching. Only coloured waterproof inks I know are from De Atramentis.
Thank you for the great review. I think that I'm going to pick up a Kuretake brush pen and some extra tips so that it will last me a long time. One thing I may have missed in the review however; did you mention how long you used the Kuretake tip before it got worn out?
+Anitropius I can't really remember how long mine lasted. But sable usually last longer than synthetic bristles. Just be careful not to damage the hair when you put the cap back on.
Hello. I have been using my Kuretake 40 for about a month. It just started flooding and I am getting too much ink through the brush. Any suggestions?
Do you find any difference between the metal body Kuretake and the plastic Pentel body as far as length of time before capped brush pen ink dries out? Do each have (or not have) an extra seal or little cap of some sort inside the big pen cap that helps keep ink (and I suppose the inky bristles) fluid between uses? I could imagine being able to use it several times a week but could go 7-10 days between uses. Do you rinse the bristles or clean off with damp tissue before setting aside between uses?
And THANKS SO MUCH for your wide-ranging tutorials pulling together lots of great information from your artistic endeavors!, making it all look so effortless yet inspirational!
Not sure how tight the cap is though for Pental and Kuretake. But if they are not used for long periods, they will dry eventually
Thank you for your videos. Your reviews are great! I have a pentel brush and I expected a better inkflow, so after this I can't wait to try a Kuretake.
I`ve got the Kuretake No.8 and the Pentel Brush pen and I also think the inkflow of the Kuretake is better.
+firecloud I was about to say the same. The no.8 is so long, if feels more as if i am using a brush than a pen.
How do you refill kuretake no 8?
Saringe, or carefully with an eye dropper. I have not tried the eye dropper on it, bit it works in a similar fashion with my Pilot Parallel Pens for calligraphy.
@@Ab-fi5bhshould also work with the platinum converter
So I’m curious. I recently purchased one of these and my bristles split causing double lines. What’s a good way to fix this?
Excellent video!
What is the best way to fill the Platinum converter when using this brush pen?
+ECurry I take out the convertor and suck up ink from the ink bottle.
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Super ! Where did you buy these brush pens? I wish to get them, because I am a beginner in Chinese calligraphy. Thank you in advance for your answer.
Hello Teoh, Thank you for the review! I came here because I have the Pentel pen but am looking for something thats about half as long/thick.
I've not been able to see any smaller bristle brush pens, Do you know of any?
Thank you
+GetBant I don't know of any that is shorter. The Kuretake is already very short.
Thanks for your reply, I guess if its shorter than the Pentel I might get one to see!
I do quite enjoy the Pentel sign touch pen as a shorter brush 'style' pen (altho not bristles)
Teoh, do you know if Platinum carbon ink cartidges work with the 40 and 50?
Not sure about that. The cartridge will fit, but I'm not sure if the ink is safe for use since it's pigmented.
@@teohyc I wondered about that. Thanks, Teoh.
can I use Sublimaze printer ink in the kurerake pen?
Also, something I just discovered. Do NOT use really rich, really thick black ink with brushes! Really undiluted ink is very sticky, and will stop the tip from snapping back to a point.
To use thick really dark ink. dilute it with water first!
Be extra careful with any "shellac" inks. They will clog up the tip and are almost impossible to remove. India Ink or pigment based ink should also never completely dry out. It will be hard to clean. If you don't need a deep black, for example if you just want to try and sketch or if you don't use the pen very often, then you can play it safe and use fountain pen ink. This is dye and water based and does not have pigment particles. So it will not clog and can be removed easily. However it's not water resistant.
Hello Teoh, I have a question. Can I use Noodlers ink (the one for the fountain pens) on the pentel brush? I mean are they any different? Please answer 😊 thanks 😁
+Lourdes Ortega You can use. The ink looks quite patchy when drawing that's all
How do you refill the pen with the converter? And how long did you wait before receiving the pen from amazon?
I take out the converter and put into the ink bottle and suck the ink up. As for the delivery time, I cannot remember as it was too long ago. You may be able to find this on eBay as well.
Hi, Teoh... thanks for the video! I have a question: I bought a Kuretake penbrush at an art store on the Internet. But after the use of the first Cartidge it got stuck when I replaced it. Ink does not flow. I want to ask if you can recommend me something to unblock it (I tried washing it with water unsuccessfully) thanks! Btw... fun fact is that I also used the Kuretake as a dip brush after worn out. XD
+Cristian Docolomansky Cerda You can use Rotring Cleaning Fluid to clean the brush.
Hah! you're right! How didn't I thought about that before! XD Good call. Thanks!
Thank you for this video! I just bought the Kuretake 40 based off your review, but I think they may have changed the design? I cannot take the top off. I just ruined the brand new pen trying to take that top off to get access to the whole bristle :(. It seems the plastic top is not removable anymore. Very sad since that's what I bought it for!
+carolicious74 The plastic top is quite tight. Just twist it clockwise and anticlockwise bit by bit to losen it first.
Teoh Yi Chie it can't be twisted. It is now just one whole piece of plastic. I've seen a few reviews mention the change as well, some people prefer the non removable top design because the top would become loose and twist the bristles. Perhaps Kuretake changed the design due to this concern or maybe the new whole plastic design is cheaper to produce.
For future viewers, I can confirm that the design has been changed, at least for the replacement part. In my model you can still wiggle off the tip, but what comes off is not just a housing but a rod-shaped feed (that can be reassembled without damage). To identify the model that I have, the gold band near the tip is not creased like in the video but flat.
@@jhanschoo confirming this, ive tried to leave a comment to that effect but theyre being automatically deleted. dont follow the tip removal in this video unless your pen has the 2 crease lines in the gold band.
Would this be a good brush pen for a beginner? Im looking for something somewhat decent but not too pricy. Whats the difference between the 40 & 50 models? Thx!
It's good for beginners. If you want budget, get the Pentel Pocket Brush Pen and refill it yourself. ruclips.net/video/mbItEKkNWZY/видео.html
I bought the No. 40, but the plastic tip was on so firmly that I couldn't remove it no matter how hard I tried. This was when I had literally just received the brush in the mail. I would've loved to have the full length of the bristles, but I guess I'll have to buy a replacement to do that.
If you use the full length of the bristle, the ink flow will not be able to catch up.
May I know where do you buy the Noodlers Bullet Proof ink in Singapore? Thanks!
+onechristmaswish I don't think they are sold in Singapore. I bought mine online from Amazon.com. For the other inks, sometimes I buy them on eBay.
Great review, I’ve been a fan of the Kuretake no.13 for a while now and decided to splurge a bit and get the no.50 for something nicer in hand and smaller to carry, and honestly I’m at a loss. My brush is real hair and you can tell from the smell, but when I put the included cartridge it would not fill at all. I have no idea what the problem was but tried taking out the cartridge and flushing the brush it, poke it from inside and whatnot. Eventually I got it to “work” but the ink comes out washed out, I thought I still had water in the feed but after a lot of using it still comes out at like 60~70% darkness. Can’t say I’m not disappointed, I don’t know if I should try and get another brush tip replacement especially because I had the hope that the no.13 brush tip would fit and it doesn’t so I can’t even swap those around…
Any advice?
Maybe have the pen tip face down for a night, and test the next day. My guess is there's still water in the pen. Since black ink is difficult to dilute unless there's water.
It’s gotten better with time but it is still not as dark as my no.13, weird. Now I’m worried about swapping inks on either of them if cleaning between inks dilutes the color too much. I still have a platinum converter in the mail and wanted to try with some of the ink cafe inks by kuretake themselves. I don’t expect their black or sumi ink bottles to work either as I don’t think those are even fountain pen inks to begin with. I might have to try with the carbon blacks if I want darker inks.
Appreciate your videos. Have subbed. I thought to get a nylon brush pen to use for my ink drawings and I realize that it has a learning curve especially using it for multitudes of long lines. Do you recommend real hair over the nylon for this traditional inking since I go slower than most probably? It's traditional as in American, I suppose. The type done by Alphonso Dunn. When speaking about traditional inking my mind would go to the art that Japan and China did from ancient times.
Perhaps real hair can get you sharper point and can last longer. At least that’s what I experienced with my real vs synthetic brushes
@@teohyc Hi Teoh, I'm watching this again and I have another question. Perhaps, it's a request. Could you do a video of you painting a line and wash picture? You do watercolor, and I would like to see one with these brush pens as the star (with bristles, real and and then nylon) and the watercolor part second. It would be interesting to see what difference the type of britsles make. Also, I wonder if you do the ink first or last or both?
Hi Teoh,
If I already have Kuretake brush no.13, are these brushes are significant upgrade? I'm interested in no.40. but It's a bit pricey for me.
Performance is the same. No 40 matte body may turn sticky if you are in humid climate. No 50 glossy body will last. Check out the price of the sable refills. If the price is close to the disposable Kuretake brush pens, it's worth a upgrade for the no 50 body.
@@teohyc I don't really like no.50 body looks. I love the matte looks, but If it has sticky problem, I think my best option is just to buy a replacement tip for no.40 / no.50 and put it into my no.13 glossy body. Jetpens said it's compatible.
Thanks for your reply and video reviews, Theo. I bought a lot of art supplies based on your recommendation recently. They are very helpful!
I will help you spam likes from now on~ lol
thank you. How do you fill the ink to the converter?
I take out the converter to refill, then wipe and put back.
Kuretake is mew favorite
Recently the tip started to lose its sharpness every now and then, giving me thicker lines when I don't want that. Have you ever had this problem?
+NotOrdinaryInGames How long have you been using it? So far I don't have the problem. But if it gets worn, you can buy a tip replacement.
+Teoh Yi Chie Believe it or not, only 2 months. And it's hasn't lost its sharpness completely; sometimes the tip just forgets it has to be sharp, and goes all over the place. I have to then manually reshape it. At first I thought it's the thick india ink I used, but now I am using the stock Kuretake ink, and STILL sometimes the point just un-sharpens itself.
Hi Teoh, thanks for your video. I have a question becouse my english its not very good. The ink converter works with the kuretake No 40? Do you try with the rotring ink?
You have to use Platinum ink convertor for the Kuretake. Yes, you can try Rotring in the Kuretake also.
This one? www.amazon.com/Luxury-Brands-Platinum-Converter-PLAT500/dp/B004XDE024/ref=pd_sim_229_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4VJ0T8P7ZYN7690C4P25
Yes, that's the one. See if you can find it cheaper on eBay from Japanese sellers.
Last question XD, do you know if this kuretake is refilable or uses ink refills? www.amazon.com/Kuretake-brush-character-blister-japan/dp/B001C0BCBI/ref=sr_1_78?ie=UTF8&qid=1481155292&sr=8-78&keywords=brush%2Bkuretake&th=1
im confused
Vica That looks like a Pentel Color Brush Pen so it's probably refillable ruclips.net/video/H-Go2m85jkI/видео.html
I just bought Kuretake DW 140-50 and would like to install converter ink plat500 but can found only Converter 800a ,is it compatible to plat500?
Not sure about that.
@@teohyc Thanks
Do you think noodlers heart of darkness ink would be good for the no 40 brush pen?
I've not used Heart of the Darkness before. I suggest Sailor KiwaGuro, Platinum Carbon or De Atramentis Archive Ink to refill
@@teohyc will those inks dry out on the brush is I leave it sitting for 12 hours - 24 hours?
@@solar7927 If you cap the brush pen, tip will stay wet
Is Royal Talens Ecoline waterbased inks ok to use? Is noodlers australian roses ok to use?
Water-based. Noodler's Black Swan in Australian Roses is also water-based. So both are not waterproof and are water-soluble.
@@teohyc but are good to use
Can I put carbon ink in a kuretake 50 sable hair? It never clogs my vintage platinum long short pen
Not sure about that. Look at your ink bottle opening and look for physical particles. If there are, I don't recommend using it inside the brush pen. Go with Rotring ink
@@teohyc thanks! Nope, apparently no « crusty residue ». I’ll give it a try. Is rotring waterproof?
@@catlange Rotring is waterproof
What ink bottle where you using?
+keannumartinez Sailor Kiwa Guro www.parkablogs.com/node/11387
how long did it take for the bristles to wear out?
There's no fixed answer as it depends on how often you use it
Can you use the same brush for different colors or do I need to buy various brushes for the different colors
You can use with different colours. Be careful of pigmented ink which may clog
@@teohyc how does one clean the brushes
@@mlf316 Just run water through the brush
Sorry to bother you with all of my questions. how long does it take for ink to dry. Reason I ask is I want to use different color within my paintings and dont want them to run together
@@mlf316 It's best to test the inks you use because each ink will have different drying time.
Also what kind canvas can be used
It can be used on smooth and fine grain surface
I am looking into getting a Kuretake 40 or 50, but I have been using a Kuretake Bimoji as the local art store carries them. I have not used the Pentel but I was curious if you have had the experience of using the Bimoji? I am curious how the Bimoji compares to the 40/50? I know the longevity of the real sable hair is going to be far superior and the ability to refill will pay for it's self over time compared to buying several disposable Bimoji but how much better will the overall writing experience be? I am also curious if other Noodler's inks work well with the 40/50 as I wont be water coloring over much of my works I am less concerned about waterproof inks and more about color variety.
Also thanks for the great videos, I've only recently discovered your channel and haven't watched everything yet, but what I have has been exceptional.
+bmmcwhirt I don't actually use this brush pen for writing so it's difficult for me to judge its writing performance. The only thing to note is the bristles are what I consider to be a bit short. With natural bristles, they are probably more flexible when writing when compared to the sponge like brush pens.
What is the model number for the platinum converter?
I'm not sure if there's a model number. It's just called Platinum ink converter. You can find it on eBay, I'm sure.
500, the golden one.
Do synthetic brush pens wear out faster compared to sable brush pens?
Synthetic usually wear out faster.
Teoh Yi Chie Just got my kuretake 40 yesterday and still playing with it now. But the bristles are quite bushy after playing around with it. Is there any way to get it back to normal?
redheadedme Use water to keep the hairs together. In normal usage, the hair should not be bushy. It's best to draw with them by pulling and less side strokes.
Teoh Yi Chie thank you! I'm also wondering which ink do you use for refilling the cartridges. Did you experience clogging? If so, how do you clean them?
redheadedme Most waterproof inks are pigmented so pen maintenance is required once in a while, especially if you don't use the pen often. This will prevent the pen from clogging. I use Rotring ink, those for technical pens. If you do not need waterproof ink, you can just go for typical fountain pen black ink.
One more thing. Kuretake ink is the same for all their models. And it is NOT waterproof.
I used it for a couple watercolors and it worked fine. Are you sure it's completely dry before using the watercolors?
Yeah, the one I got was not waterproof.
I thought mine was not, however, I tried to use water based inks over a drawing that was a few days old and had no problems. Came as a surprise because my first test smudged very badly only 15 mins after I finished the drawing. I really rubbed the liquid all over the lines to make sure it was really not smudging the second time. Pleasant surprise.
Dat sketch brah
Can the pen just use fountain pen ink?
Depends on the type of ink. Dye based inks will work well. For waterproof inks, I recommend Rotring
what types of inks i can use ?
Sailor KiwaGuro, Platinum Carbon or DeAtramentis
I have the kuretake 50 , sable hair
I honoustly believe there is too much ink flow , something there is so much ink it's almost impossible to do very fine lines
Also , One ink cartridge a day ( after a full day of drawing )
Maybe get the Pentel colour brush pen instead.
@@teohyc
I also have that one :)
Finer lines are imho easer with the pentel because it's easier to apply almost no pressure since the weight of the pencil is heavier compared to the kuretake
Can you review kuretake no.8 :D ty
+Mirurun It's going to perform the same. Just that that brush pen is longer.
Teoh Yi Chie thanks!
sorry teoh but I know it's written BrisTle but it's pronounced brissel.... sorry .. I I looove your videos but I was an english teacher and can't help myself! You have taught me so much I want to return the favour
+Fiona Pycock Thanks 😁😂
I know the differnece between the 40 and 50 is synthetic versus sable hair
But what abou the 13 , what are the differences compared to 40/50 ?
Lol I was planning on getting two to use two different inks until u said it was 30 $ :/
There are non-sable versions which are cheaper. And the Kuretake Cambio. Search Amazon or eBay
I prefer the ink flow of the Pentel because it gives me more control over drawing thinner lines and moreover I use smoother paper so I get sharper lines.
Did he just say, 'If the Bristols get worn out' ? I say...., better send for Matron
What's with all the different Kuretake pen numbers.... very confusing trying to sort out what is what! I'm sure Kuretake would increase their sales if they gave the pens a name rather than these silly numbers.
Different models. Yeah it is confusing
The Pentel hated me for some reason, and leaked from places I did not want. And the nylon hairs are too soft and bend too easily.
+NotOrdinaryInGames My Pentel does not leak by my Kuretake leaks.
this is an out of date design. do not try to follow this tip removal unless your pen is over 6 years old.
They have a new design?