I want Garage 56 to be a Japan Super GT500 car. See how they perform against the hypercars. Perhaps they can have strict fuel capacity limits to prevent them from contending to win. But the speed comparison would be cool.
Cool idea, but I doubt about the engine, the NRE engines (engine format used by all GT500 cars), was never intended to run 24 hours. The longest race NRE engine ever run was Suzuka 1000 km (about 7-8 hours endurance race). Also take note that Suzuka did not have long straight like Le Mans or Fuji Speedway (which make stressful for the engine itself). Also, GT500 cars are corner monster because of their massive downforce. Although seems good idea, but I think 24 hours of Le Mans is not the territory of GT500.
@@fajarastanaprima2771 For what it's worth, NASCAR Cup series engines were also not designed for 24h racing, but with some minor changes the engine did quite well. Granted NRE engines are a lot more power dense.
@@fajarastanaprima2771 In that case, detune the engine to GT300 regs, change only a small amount of the aero (to minimize drag) and then let it compete for overall GT win.
@@vivos71 you also need to know that Garage 56 NASCAR use detuned version or Chevrolet R07 engine. R07 capable about 800-880 hp, 9500 rpm, but for Garage 56 at 24h of Le Mans, they detuned it, lowering the rev, so just 670-690 hp with 8500 rpm (saw the onboard & they never went beyond 8700 rpm). Garage 56 already got robust & well reliable R07 engine. But NRE GT500? They somehow kinda stressful engine with only 2.0L 4-cylinder, they must endure high boost from turbo to produce 650 hp & rev higher (about 9000 rpm) for peak power. If they want NRE GT500 engine join 24h Le Mans, yeah it's possible. But I guess they must change a lot of things, even close to change the engine structure itself & make the engineer think that better replace with another or brand new engine to survive 24h race.
@@FallingPicturesProductions if you said "GT300", they would prefer the "true" GT300 or cars that fit GT300 but could also join LMGT3, which is = GT-R GT3 (although dated), NSX GT3, or RC F GT3 (although dated). Detune the cars power is possible but if they found that the pace is almost same as regular GT3, the manufacturers/teams would found it "nonsense/pointless" anymore to run the GT500 cars at Le Mans.
Technichally, it happened (At 2021 24h lemans Alpine brought an F1 car driven by Fernando Alonso) but not for the 24h so I completely agree with you, a open wheel entry that races 24 hours straight would be interesting
Formula one/e and indycar in le man will be a problem by just looking at it. That why. So it is more work by the way it is. And pit will take more time too. And lastly those cars are fragile too. Like any damage of that your car automatically out of the race so that why that a horrible idea there. Because it's just is. Ok.
Lastly, they don't have head and tail light input. I forget to motion too. So yeah, take it as a grain of salt, too. And like I said, too much work there. Ok.
@ that’s why it’s called “experimental”. Nobody thought NASCAR would be at Le Mans in 1976 and 2023 and look how that turned out. If you use a normal open wheel car, of course it’s not gonna work. Gotta be different. I know it won’t realistically happen, but imagine
The Garage 56 Camaro had a stellar driver lineup. 7 Time NASCAR Cup Champion Jimmie Johnson, DTM and Le Mans winning Mike Rockenfeller, and 2009 Formula One World Drivers Champion Jenson Button. Also almost didn't finish do to the gearbox nearly self destructing.
I loved everything about that Camaro, especially the noise. Sadly I ended up cringing every time I saw footage of it though, it just seemed to create an endless stream of "yeah brother! about time someone showed those europeans how its done! yeeeeehaw" comments- which is a bit of a kick in the balls to all the Corvettes, Vipers, Panoz and Saleens that have consistently done well for decades, even without free reign on the regs.
Now we just need caddy to win overall for the first us make overall since ford won in 1969 with the original run with the gt. Of course us makes have been winning in other classes frequently enough
@@1EnZBosS1 thats why i end saying us makes have won in other classes in that time. I watched as much of that return of the gt as i could and was ecstatic when they did win in class. It just wasnt the overall.
If I'm remembering the full context, the biggest reason why NASCAR got a LeMans entry is that it was NASCAR's 75th anniversary. The NASCAR sanctioning body did nothing with it state side, but we did get the Garage 56 entry. Personally, I really wish we'd take the lessons learned from the G56 entry in order to create a truly world wide series.
Maybe future G56 entires could attempt to branch out from the original three (current) G56 cars: Deltawing => I honestly don't have a good idea for this one. Amputee => Design that incorporates controls for a driver with no hands and/or arms. Would be difficult, but rewarding. G56 Camaro: Why not take other non-endurance series car designs? (Like Nascar trucks, Turismo Carreterra, etc). Just like the previous above, I think it could offer some interesting ideas.
There was also the front engined Nissan with the batteries carried in the wheel. They had Jann Mardenborough and Max Chilton as their drivers. Sadly we won't see any more oddities anytime soon
That might a idea, rally car are built to race on pavement (asphalt)/concrete also clay/dirt and snow/ice. That mean when the marbles build up on the track. They rally look of the car would allow to race up top of the loose marbles without damaging the car at all. That a fantastic idea there. Why I never thought of that in the first place here. That a dream to see anyway. Like wow.
In gran turismo 7 , I got a chapparal 2x vgt and the ai said it was a garage56 project. Cool to see it in the actual 24h of lemans just flat down. Like literally
They are one-make car company only that race. They fit there very well. Like one-make spec racing is a example there. It fit there like there brand. So that I'm thinking there.
I want to see a GT500 entry or an Aussie Supercar V8 and I think all 3 manufacturers Ford, Chevrolet, and Toyota of the series can talk their way to the ACO
@@Yosh1az Cool idea, but I doubt about the engine, the NRE engines (engine format used by all GT500 cars), was never intended to run 24 hours. The longest race NRE engine ever run was Suzuka 1000 km (about 7-8 hours endurance race). Also take note that Suzuka did not have long straight like Le Mans or Fuji Speedway (which make stressful for the engine itself). Also, GT500 cars are corner monster because of their massive downforce. Although seems good idea, but I think 24 hours of Le Mans is not the territory of GT500. For V8 supercars Australia, I think its still get higher possibility than Super GT GT500, since their engine were based from GM LS or Ford Coyote which already proven on many endurance races.
@@fajarastanaprima2771 I am confident that manufacturers and a willing team can tweak the NRE engine to last for 24 hours, like GM and Hendrick did with the G56 Camaro.
@Yosh1az yeah, possible, but need to do alot of things. Detuned & reduce the engine rpm. Especially for turbo engine, need to reduce turbo boost. For Garage 56 Camaro, its much easier to do, since Chevrolet R07 engine already robust enough, so they just put restrictor, & reduce the engine rpm.
I'd love to see something like a DW12 with slightly more bodywork, lights and whatever else is required. Not quite an open wheel single seater, but very similar. IndyCar could do well trying out new tech with a G56 entry in this vein
@@camrsr5463 Cool idea, but I doubt about the engine, the NRE engines (engine format used by all GT500 cars), was never intended to run 24 hours. The longest race NRE engine ever run was Suzuka 1000 km (about 7-8 hours endurance race). Also take note that Suzuka did not have long straight like Le Mans or Fuji Speedway (which make stressful for the engine itself). Also, GT500 cars are corner monster because of their massive downforce. Although seems good idea, but I think 24 hours of Le Mans is not the territory of GT500.
Call me lame but I wanna see Lotus type cars to do endurance racing again, I wanna see Garage 56 experiment with medium power (300-400 horsepower) but with extremely lightweight bodies. with inline 4s or something like that idk I love 2010 lotus.
Garage 56 is Proof that You Should Let The Teams, And team Engineers and Auto Makers Build and Design, not NASCAR themselves. NASCAR Themselves are Idiots when it comes to building Cars they have been since the Gen 5 Era. Plus Teams and Manufacturers should not Run a Fixed Amount of HP, say Toyota Runs 700+, Ford Runs 800+, Chevy Runs 900
"This is the one that probably brought you in to click on this video" Nope, the deltawing made me click on your video. Not enough people cover it's story. And strangely I think it looks better in its original open cockpit configuration lol.
Agreed. The Deltawing brought me here. I love that car and cried when it crashed at Daytona. I think with a little development it could have been a winner. The concept of lightweight and efficient is what everyone is trying to do anyway and what we need more of. Sure it required a slight rethink of placing the car on the apex and running side by side but the drivers said it handled amazingly. Poor engine choice thou😅
I want Garage 56 to be a Japan Super GT500 car. See how they perform against the hypercars. Perhaps they can have strict fuel capacity limits to prevent them from contending to win. But the speed comparison would be cool.
Cool idea, but I doubt about the engine, the NRE engines (engine format used by all GT500 cars), was never intended to run 24 hours.
The longest race NRE engine ever run was Suzuka 1000 km (about 7-8 hours endurance race).
Also take note that Suzuka did not have long straight like Le Mans or Fuji Speedway (which make stressful for the engine itself).
Also, GT500 cars are corner monster because of their massive downforce.
Although seems good idea, but I think 24 hours of Le Mans is not the territory of GT500.
@@fajarastanaprima2771 For what it's worth, NASCAR Cup series engines were also not designed for 24h racing, but with some minor changes the engine did quite well. Granted NRE engines are a lot more power dense.
@@fajarastanaprima2771 In that case, detune the engine to GT300 regs, change only a small amount of the aero (to minimize drag) and then let it compete for overall GT win.
@@vivos71 you also need to know that Garage 56 NASCAR use detuned version or Chevrolet R07 engine.
R07 capable about 800-880 hp, 9500 rpm,
but for Garage 56 at 24h of Le Mans, they detuned it, lowering the rev, so just
670-690 hp with 8500 rpm (saw the onboard & they never went beyond 8700 rpm).
Garage 56 already got robust & well reliable R07 engine.
But NRE GT500? They somehow kinda stressful engine with only 2.0L 4-cylinder, they must endure high boost from turbo to produce 650 hp & rev higher (about 9000 rpm) for peak power.
If they want NRE GT500 engine join 24h Le Mans, yeah it's possible.
But I guess they must change a lot of things, even close to change the engine structure itself & make the engineer think that better replace with another or brand new engine to survive 24h race.
@@FallingPicturesProductions if you said "GT300", they would prefer the "true" GT300 or cars that fit GT300 but could also join LMGT3, which is = GT-R GT3 (although dated), NSX GT3, or RC F GT3 (although dated).
Detune the cars power is possible but if they found that the pace is almost same as regular GT3, the manufacturers/teams would found it "nonsense/pointless" anymore to run the GT500 cars at Le Mans.
Imagine an experimental Open Wheel car as the “4th” car for Garage 56
Technichally, it happened (At 2021 24h lemans Alpine brought an F1 car driven by Fernando Alonso) but not for the 24h so I completely agree with you, a open wheel entry that races 24 hours straight would be interesting
@@dakyrs1484like 2026 Aston Martin AMR 26 LMP?
Formula one/e and indycar in le man will be a problem by just looking at it. That why. So it is more work by the way it is. And pit will take more time too. And lastly those cars are fragile too. Like any damage of that your car automatically out of the race so that why that a horrible idea there. Because it's just is. Ok.
Lastly, they don't have head and tail light input. I forget to motion too. So yeah, take it as a grain of salt, too. And like I said, too much work there. Ok.
@ that’s why it’s called “experimental”. Nobody thought NASCAR would be at Le Mans in 1976 and 2023 and look how that turned out.
If you use a normal open wheel car, of course it’s not gonna work. Gotta be different.
I know it won’t realistically happen, but imagine
The Garage 56 Camaro had a stellar driver lineup. 7 Time NASCAR Cup Champion Jimmie Johnson, DTM and Le Mans winning Mike Rockenfeller, and 2009 Formula One World Drivers Champion Jenson Button. Also almost didn't finish do to the gearbox nearly self destructing.
Garage 56 in 2023 24hrs of Le Mans eventually finished 38th after 24hrs of Le Mans, ahead of all LMGT3 cars.
I loved everything about that Camaro, especially the noise. Sadly I ended up cringing every time I saw footage of it though, it just seemed to create an endless stream of "yeah brother! about time someone showed those europeans how its done! yeeeeehaw" comments- which is a bit of a kick in the balls to all the Corvettes, Vipers, Panoz and Saleens that have consistently done well for decades, even without free reign on the regs.
Now we just need caddy to win overall for the first us make overall since ford won in 1969 with the original run with the gt. Of course us makes have been winning in other classes frequently enough
Ford won with their gtlm cars in 2016 my man
@@1EnZBosS1 thats why i end saying us makes have won in other classes in that time. I watched as much of that return of the gt as i could and was ecstatic when they did win in class. It just wasnt the overall.
@@1EnZBosS1he said OVERALL
@@1EnZBosS1it is now almost 9 years since last time Ford won a 24hrs of Le Mans race in general.
Such a criminally small amount of info on the Camaro. That thing had tons of character, it was so insanely loud that it kept people up all night
If I'm remembering the full context, the biggest reason why NASCAR got a LeMans entry is that it was NASCAR's 75th anniversary. The NASCAR sanctioning body did nothing with it state side, but we did get the Garage 56 entry. Personally, I really wish we'd take the lessons learned from the G56 entry in order to create a truly world wide series.
Maybe future G56 entires could attempt to branch out from the original three (current) G56 cars:
Deltawing => I honestly don't have a good idea for this one.
Amputee => Design that incorporates controls for a driver with no hands and/or arms. Would be difficult, but rewarding.
G56 Camaro: Why not take other non-endurance series car designs? (Like Nascar trucks, Turismo Carreterra, etc). Just like the previous above, I think it could offer some interesting ideas.
God yes PLEASE Turismo Carreterra! More people need to know about this series!
It'd be cool to see a V8 Supercar compete in garage 56 or maybe wheel out an old le man's racer (kinda counter productive but would be cool)
2028 24hrs of Le Mans may see a Gen 4 V8 Supercars racing in 24hrs of Le Mans.
I agree, they look like a funny gt3 cars and they race in Australian race those Australian supercars should fit well. Like that nascar car there.
I'd love garage 56 to be a hydrogen powered Toyota
There was also the front engined Nissan with the batteries carried in the wheel. They had Jann Mardenborough and Max Chilton as their drivers. Sadly we won't see any more oddities anytime soon
but wasn't that nissans actual entry into the 2015 season?
id love to see either a GT500 or a modified rally /rally cross car as a G56 Entry tho idk how the ACO will like to field yet another modified race car
That might a idea, rally car are built to race on pavement (asphalt)/concrete also clay/dirt and snow/ice. That mean when the marbles build up on the track. They rally look of the car would allow to race up top of the loose marbles without damaging the car at all. That a fantastic idea there. Why I never thought of that in the first place here. That a dream to see anyway. Like wow.
Rally car are all weather cars they will work everywhere as you please.
In gran turismo 7 , I got a chapparal 2x vgt and the ai said it was a garage56 project. Cool to see it in the actual 24h of lemans just flat down. Like literally
I hope we could see GARAGE 56 racing full time in WEC soon.
They should, but don't take formula racing cars.
They are one-make car company only that race. They fit there very well.
Like one-make spec racing is a example there. It fit there like there brand. So that I'm thinking there.
I want to see a GT500 entry or an Aussie Supercar V8 and I think all 3 manufacturers Ford, Chevrolet, and Toyota of the series can talk their way to the ACO
@@Yosh1az Cool idea, but I doubt about the engine, the NRE engines (engine format used by all GT500 cars), was never intended to run 24 hours.
The longest race NRE engine ever run was Suzuka 1000 km (about 7-8 hours endurance race).
Also take note that Suzuka did not have long straight like Le Mans or Fuji Speedway (which make stressful for the engine itself).
Also, GT500 cars are corner monster because of their massive downforce.
Although seems good idea, but I think 24 hours of Le Mans is not the territory of GT500.
For V8 supercars Australia, I think its still get higher possibility than Super GT GT500, since their engine were based from GM LS or Ford Coyote which already proven on many endurance races.
@@fajarastanaprima2771 I am confident that manufacturers and a willing team can tweak the NRE engine to last for 24 hours, like GM and Hendrick did with the G56 Camaro.
@Yosh1az yeah, possible, but need to do alot of things.
Detuned & reduce the engine rpm. Especially for turbo engine, need to reduce turbo boost.
For Garage 56 Camaro, its much easier to do, since Chevrolet R07 engine already robust enough, so they just put restrictor, & reduce the engine rpm.
Some kind of active aero car would be cool
I'd love to see something like a DW12 with slightly more bodywork, lights and whatever else is required. Not quite an open wheel single seater, but very similar. IndyCar could do well trying out new tech with a G56 entry in this vein
I agree with that
That look like a formula prototype car. Ok.
I'd like to see an Australian Super V8 make an attempt.
Le Mans 24 Hours, The Ultimate Race. :)
GT-500...SuperGT
@@camrsr5463 Cool idea, but I doubt about the engine, the NRE engines (engine format used by all GT500 cars), was never intended to run 24 hours.
The longest race NRE engine ever run was Suzuka 1000 km (about 7-8 hours endurance race).
Also take note that Suzuka did not have long straight like Le Mans or Fuji Speedway (which make stressful for the engine itself).
Also, GT500 cars are corner monster because of their massive downforce.
Although seems good idea, but I think 24 hours of Le Mans is not the territory of GT500.
Call me lame but I wanna see Lotus type cars to do endurance racing again, I wanna see Garage 56 experiment with medium power (300-400 horsepower) but with extremely lightweight bodies. with inline 4s or something like that idk I love 2010 lotus.
Man Try Talking about Late Model Stocks, the CARS Tour, the ASA, Super Late Models. I just got into Late Model Stocks and Super Late Models
Those are late model stock cars. It possible too.
Garage 56 is Proof that You Should Let The Teams, And team Engineers and Auto Makers Build and Design, not NASCAR themselves. NASCAR Themselves are Idiots when it comes to building Cars they have been since the Gen 5 Era.
Plus Teams and Manufacturers should not Run a Fixed Amount of HP, say Toyota Runs 700+, Ford Runs 800+, Chevy Runs 900
How so? They own the series, you obviously don't know what your talking about
"This is the one that probably brought you in to click on this video"
Nope, the deltawing made me click on your video. Not enough people cover it's story. And strangely I think it looks better in its original open cockpit configuration lol.
Agreed. The Deltawing brought me here. I love that car and cried when it crashed at Daytona. I think with a little development it could have been a winner. The concept of lightweight and efficient is what everyone is trying to do anyway and what we need more of. Sure it required a slight rethink of placing the car on the apex and running side by side but the drivers said it handled amazingly. Poor engine choice thou😅
Remember when alpine had f1 to race in le mans???
Why not those Australian supercars it will look funny against the GT3 Cars at Le Mans here.