Do we have to leave Sweden soon forever? | Life in Sweden Update
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2023
- 🇸🇪 OMG, big changes in our lives happened and we don't know if we can stay in Sweden. In today's video, I talk about what happened.
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Very unfortunate and this is a tough spot to be in. Don't just wait and see if he can get some new job with his current employer. He needs to apply for every decent job he can find, and he should obviously contact companies rather than just look for ads.
Thank you! He's definitely doing that already.
Oh no! I want you to stay in Sweden and keep making your vlogs that I love watching so much. I hope things will work out for you.
So sorry to hear that, I hope your partner can find a new job soon, or maybe he can apply for some kind of family reunification as a spouse to an EU citizen. I'm facing a similar challenge right now so, you are not alone! Hope everything will get better for everybody facing this situation.
Yes, I think it is probably easier for him to get allowed to stay and to work here as family to an EU citizen living here, at least then his next employer shouldn't have to show that they couldn't fill the job with a EU citizen.
Thank you! 😊 And all the best to you, too! 🙏
Very sorry to hear this. As a Brit in Sweden myself, I understand the anxiety. I myself am now nine months into a two year contract for a university. I'm hoping my boss can give me another two year contract after this one but no guarantees...
I really hope you can stay! And I'm sure you're exploring all possible options.
Brexit effect unfortunately.
@@tyjay6885 Brexit has nothing to do with Swedish laws. However, you can apply for Swedish citizenship as long as you have valid identification from your native country, have a valid EU/EES permit, and have stayed in the country for 5-8 years.
@@WolfHeathen issue is British citizen now won't be eligible for article 50/ESS EU permit.
@WolfHeathen But Brexit does impact the position of British people residing in Sweden, within Swedish and EU law. Since Brexit, Brits in Sweden have needed work permits - these are sponsored by employers. Thus you're right to reside in Sweden is pegged to your job.
THE PLAN WAS SO YOU COULDN'T REBEL AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT'S AWFUL POLICY
Stay positive! Think out of the box! I’m sure y ou’ll find a solution. I’m sending you good vibes ✨
Thank you very much! We'll definitely take some actions 🙏
I hope everything works out.
We are considering relocating to Sweden for a year to work. Your videos have been very helpful
Hoppas att allt ordnar sig! Kram
So sorry to hear that....wish you all the luck!
Sorry to hear that. I hope it works out somehow, wherever that may be. Hope you'll be able to stay in Sweden though :)
Hope it works out for you 💯
That said Brexit is certainly causing a lot of troubles. Which at least some Brits admit 😉
Really sorry to hear this. I'm a Scot married to an EU citizen (Belgian) who is retired/Disabled. To date we can legally remain here, and we do have Right of Residence. For now....But I know many people are in the same boat over the changes, with far too many not knowing if they will be able to stay or not. And I know from past experience (had to leave my native Scotland due to Brexit, and being wed to a European. Got given the choice of "country or husband, not both") how stressful and difficult it is to wait on a decision. I hope for the very best outcome for you and your family. Hang in there. (((((hug)))))
Oh My! I am so sorry to hear your latest news. Losing a job/contract is one of the worst feelings in life. Keep motivated and rest when you need to. Having worked in Japan many years, I know about the work visas/applications etc. Please keep your spirits up. There is always a way. Much love from Northern California ❤
Very sorry to hear this. I hope you find a solution so that you can stay.
Thank you! 🙏
I think there’s some leniency in the immigration laws if the company you work at goes bankrupt and if you have a family, house etc here but I’m not sure. It’s important in any case to start a process with Migrationsverket as if you wait to long, for example when you are already unemployed, then that can be a reason for denial of a visa.
Thank you! 😊
You two are recourcedul and smart, I´m sure you will find a solution!
I'm really sorry to hear this. But at the same time I hope that he will find an even better job, so it will end up better for you all.
That sound very sad. I hope things will turn to the beter soon.
Thank you! 😊
So sorry to hear this😢But If he starts looking for other jobs instead of just waiting for his job today to give some information so go out and hunt jobs at klients and so on😊I hope that you guy's Will stay in Sweden and have a amazing life❤
Det var tråkiga nyheter. Jag hoppas att allt ordnar sig till slut.
I almost forgot to mention. The most common way to get a job in sweden is to build a personal network. If you have a work you most likely find partners through your work you can contact. But if you are uneployed you can do it by joining gym´s or clubs where you can find a contact that might lead you to a new job.
update is informative
As far as I understand, you are not married. Wouldn't it be easier for your partner if you were married. I could be wrong, but I think that married couples with children find it easier in your situation to stay in Sweden.
Hope it works out for you, Sweden needs people like you.
No it dont matter if one ís marriged or not, its the same for partners, in swedish "sambo", in english i belive one call it "comon law marrige"? In anyway, living at the same adress, shared economy, and having children togheter is altso prove of that! The only real benefit of being marriged in sweden is if one of the partner dies and there is children with other partners!
@@stiglarsson8405 Or as the common-law widow to your almost namesake (Stieg Larsson) discovered, if one of the partner dies and there are no will.
@@cynic7049 About my almoste namesake, his official name was Karl Stig-Erland Larsson, and there was another Stig Larson writer that was more in to poetry, so he change the name at books to Stieg Larsson!
In anyway he and Eva Gabrielsson didnt get any children, they was only living under the same roof!
So his father and brother inherited all his property!
Soo, then there is another thing for those not marriged and no children, and that is "registrated partnership"!
Its rather more importante for those with children.. becuse children always heretige there parents, if there is any! But, the widow/widower can keep and live of there spouse heretige, and its not distributed befor both is death!
Yeh, I'm not sure but we will look into it :)
Good luck 🙏
Hoppas det går bra för er. Krångligt system. 🤔🤗
Jag håller tummarna för er, så ni kan stanna och bo där ni vill vara. Kram Per
I will keep my fingers crossed for you to be able to stay and live where you like to be. Hugs Per
Thank you very much! :)
I hope that it will work out for you
Is very sad 😭 ! Oh God I wish you guys get work their 😊
Thank you! 😊
I hope for the best.
I do believe there's a residence permit for "family member of an EU person working in Sweden" that he would be able to apply for and then wouldn't be dependant on a company to sponsor his visa and could freely look for work. Good luck and i hope he finds something!
I believe you're referring to the "Surinder Singh" route.
I would say it like the soldier in the movie An Officer & Grntleman ”I have no other place to go”. It’s not so easy to move for many reasons.
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Good luck.
Im so sorry to hear this!
Ofcourse you dont need to leave.. its rather that one could need to go trough a new process with our imigration authority.
And who like to do that again, especialy when one partner lost income and one have bought a house together!
The resident status is probaly the least concern, but could put paperwork upon ones other strugle!
And then, get a new job, at least close to that one hade is a problem when one only have 2 years of "networking" insight!
Soo.. my hope is that he have a profession thats wanted in Stockholm, and in worste case have to comute to the other side of the city!
I really hope it will be ok and that he find a job.
Good luck
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Hi I'm sure you've found it already but i have just applied for the jobseeker visa which you can get if you have higher-level education. I have no idea how it will take and he may have to pop back to UK to apply. If successful, it means you can stay and look for jobs. Also as soon as you get a job you can start working on the same day that you apply for the full work permit. So you don't have to wait.
I have been applying for jobs from the UK and been rejected quickly they say it's because they don't want to wait for the work permit, which i understand. Fingers crossed, I'll be coming to Stockholm soon. I'll let you know how long the visa takes.
Thanks for the tip and all the best for you! :)
GOOD LUCK TO YOU BOTH!
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Sorry to hear this. I really hope this works out for you. However in 5:45 "You have to prove that you really need this person". I think this is wrong. I'm no expert in migration laws but as far as I know we don't have such law in Sweden. This is called "arbetsmarknadsprövning" in Swedish and has been proposed by several political parties but have not got majority in the parliament. The only thing that applies is that the employee needs to earn more than a certain amount. This will be heavily raised for next year to 27200 SEK / month, but I'm sure Chris makes more than so. Hope this helps going forward.
As a Brit living in Switzerland I had similar issues. That was before Switzerland signed up for EU free movement of workers/population and did also require the employer's need for skills be proven before a work permit was issued.
After first working for 18 months here my company's main project customer decided to call a halt. Therefore the company could no longer invoice the customer and needed to let the project team go and had ONE MONTH notice. I was on a yearly renewable work permit so scrambled to get employment through another local company. The new company had to effectively "take on" my work permit and do the admin in the background. Long story short - after 35 years I have married, had a family here, taken on citizenship, worked all my life and now retired. Yes it is a hiccup in the plan but with diligence and ensuring the admin is correct, your partner will get a new job (especially if he is highly skilled) and life in Sweden will go on.
And I must add, that, just as in Switzerland, *it is appreciated that you integrate in Swedish society speak the language and share Swedish values and behaviour*
Sweden has too many people who don't and only cost the state.
Übrigens, Julia - Dein Englisch ist zauberhaft!
Wishing you all the best / Alles Gute, Rob in Switzerland
I hope this type of situation brings out empathy for those in Sweden who appear based on their immutable external factors to be immigrants more than your partner. (A Brit does not stick out as much as say Asian/MiddleEastern/African person.
And no I dont mean those who cause harm, I mean everyday peaceful people who just happen to have a darker shade than your british partner. I hope people extend the same empathy, they are just the same. He wants a job and to stay in Sweden and so do they.
Absolutely!
i hope it will work out for you so you can stay
Thank you! 😊 🙏
Hi. Does Sweden have the “accompanying spouse visa”?. I recently moved to Denmark with my German wife. I was able to get the accompanying spouse visa as my wife is an EU citizen and I am Australian. I done a quick google search and it appears the laws are similar in Sweden. Now I have all the same rights as an EU citizen
That sucks - losing your job is horrible.
Moneywise, else it's an opportunity.
What field is he in? Some fields are struggling to find employees.
It´s very sad to heear this. I hope your partner will find a job soon so you can stay Julia. But aply for a tourist visa is not the right thing to do. What he needs to aply for is a partner visa since he is not an Eu cicizen like you are. But i do hope it will turn out well for the both of you so you can stay.
I have a great deal of admiration for Sweden. But for me, the long hours of darkness in the winter would be a deal breaker.
I left Sweden and have no regrets.
Good for you.
@@annicaesplund6613 Yes.
Oh mei, Uli...!
Man merkt es dir an, dass es dir grad nicht gut geht... 😥
I am thinking of you and although I am also not that religious it sometimes helps to talk to "someone" who might be listening.
I am going to send a message "to above" and ask for help so that you four can keep on living your dream in Sweden.
As a suggestion: If Chris could not work at another daughter company or if he could not find any other job soon, couldn't maybe you "hire" him for your own business? At least for the moment until he has found a new fulltime job?
Maybe this situation will even be a chance for him to change the business he is working in?
A lot of people (have to) change their profession for different reasons and see this sooner or later even as a positive new chapter and one step forward in their life.
Grüße und ganz viel Kraft für euch! 🫂
Es geht IMMER irgendwie weiter und es gibt bestimmt eine gute Lösung.
Never give up! 💪
The problem of "hiring him in her own company" Is that they have now increased the minimum salary to be eligible for work permit to 80% of the Swedish median salary
Ah, ok. Thank you for this clarification.
So that "interim solution" would be quite expansive.
However, they could attend to a lawyer specialised on labour or residential rights to get some advice on how to proceed (except accepting ANY kind of job he could find at the moment to fulfil that minimum salary requirement you mentioned).@@datadrivendev
What does he work with? The company i work at are about to grow extremely now. I can tell that 3M now is our costumer. But 2 other are top secret. Both one of the largest in the world in their field. We are doing solar cells for consumer products. That charges indoor too. There are people from all over the world working there. We speak english at work. We have to locations in Stockholm. At KTH and in Kista. The company is Exeger. Look it up. There are some RUclips videos also.
I *highly* doubt his residence permit will be cancelled simply due to loss of his job. As long as the residence permit is valid, he should be able to live in the country and find new work.
I am sorry to hear that. Why don't you ask for a family reunion visa since you have incomes and you are a UE citizen? Good luck.
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Because the current times but you have to know that usually the people from third countries are a need for visas to staying in Sweden example in UK the EU citizens also need to apply for visas dear lady just remember that
Sad to see! Wish you all the best! What a mess with England left EU!
Es ist sehr traurig, davon zu hören.
Danke!
Does he, by any chance, have a grandparent from an EU country? My dad's father came to the US from Budapest. I have tried to talk him into applying for Hungarian citizenship for years (just to get EU citizenship; neither of us has any interest in living in Hungary). Only now that things in the US are very scary is he considering going for it.
Cheers🌠
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If it happens to be IT/computer programming sector the partner want job in...
If you're married doesn't your partner receive dual EU/UK nationality?
Get married!!! You would be amongst the few people who actually do such a thing for the right reason :)))
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Hello! It's sad how it is right now for you. If you like Sweden and want to stay here, why not do what most Britons in Sweden did when the UK was about to leave the EU, they applied for Swedish citizenship. If there is no continued job for your partner, you can look up to Norrland, because up here there are jobs and they are looking for a lot of people with certain skills that are not found in Sweden. If your partner wants to work in the space industry, we have Esrange in Kiruna and several people from different countries work there. Then we have LKAB which is then a mining company and they are also looking for people and are a good company and I think that company is the most equal company in Sweden as both men and women have the same pay for the same work. A bit away from me one or most of them just from the UK, haven't seen them but in the yard outside the apartment building there is a British registered car and it has been there for 2-.3 years.
I've been following the changes to the migration rules and I know that they are changing/or have changed the rules about citizenship, increasing the number of years one must live here before they can apply and of course, that income threshold is the biggie.
@@f.goossens8118 This with labor immigration from countries outside the EU, is more to stop people being exploited from low-wage countries and doing the less attractive jobs, such as berry picking, cleaning jobs, dishwashers and similar jobs, so entrepreneurs take to Sweden to exploit people.
Her partner is not eligible to that kind of citizenship because that was only a transition period and you had to have been living in the applicable EU country before the 1st January 2021.
This was an agreement between the EU and the UK and was of course the same for EU citizens living in the UK.
@@Tim_Nilsson Can't speak for Sweden but just to clarify EU citizens living in the UK weren't able to apply for citizenship under any special brexit scheme. We were however able to apply for a settled status which gives us indefinite right to remain but not a citizenship. You can still apply for the citizenship under normal rules but it's quite expensive to do so. The only downside to indefinite right to remain is that you loose it if you decide to live outside the UK for 5 consecutive years and that you cannot vote. But at least it was free.
@@annar6294 I'm not sure you were given a citizenship over here either.
It was possibly (probably) the exact same solution.
Well that is sure problem if your spouce isn´t EU citizen. I don´t know how does it impacts the situation that you had baby in Sweden. Is he/she citizen of Sweden? That will effect too for the whole family to stay in country.
If he have learned swedish language then it is easier for him to seek a new job in there. If not, it´s sure harder but not impossible.
After 2½ years why hasn't he applied to be a citizen?.
Not enough time. I think you need four years for permanent residency and five years for citizenship. Might be shorter if you have a Swedish partner who you live with for two years, but obviously Chris isn't in this situation.
Yes, not enough time yet. But we definitely will (if we get the chance).
@@LivingSwedish 5 years is a long time for that.
If his job disappears, so does the basis upon which his residency stands. In other words, he will lose his residency permit. If he wants to apply for a new work/residency permit, 'uppehållstillstånd', he will need to make the application from his 'home' country, i.e. the UK, I assume. The system is brutal, as it is in most European countries these days, like the UK. A very important question is what YOUR status is, i.e. did you apply for and get some kind of uppehållstillstånd? Yes, you can be here as an EU national, but you can reinforce your status here by getting some kind of Swedish residency status. As an EU citizen, you have the right to family, and the right to have your spouse and children with you, anywhere within the EU. That said, this is like reading the very small fine print on a label, you still need to jump through the bureaucratic hoops to exercise your rights. I have gone through this, in a way, as I had to wait almost a year before my wife and child could join me here... and I am Swedish.
Hi Uli. Its sad to hear, i hope it will turn to the better for all of you . Iv been in the same boat and its not fun. I wonder is he member in any union and what do they say. If he is not se so he get one always a union because of money. iI Sverige har vi arbetsförmedling, försäkringskassa och fackförening och de styr över reglerna när du blir arbetslös. Arbetsförmedlingen är inte kul att gå till men ett mäste tyvärr. Jag har läst lite om en fackförening kallad Unionen den lär vara bra och täcka många arbetsområden kolla upp den. Försäkringskassan kan ju du sedan förut så jag säger inget där. Jag håller tummar och tår för er. Jo en sak till det brukar ske en omplacering i företaget en sådan här gång tillsammans med facket kolla upp det med verkar vara ett stort företag så tummen upp. Kj.
Literally just get married..... simple solution for all your problems. Get a divorce after 2-3 years when he gets permanent Swedish passport and residency if you don't want to be in married status after that.....
Why complicate simple situations....
What if he is married to an EU citizen ;)
Cant be to hard for an Englishman to find work here. Cant you employ him?😅
Try to get a an Irish citizenship......
Or a Swedish....
Why?!She is german citizen
He's not, he is from a country outside EU. So he should try for EU country citizen.@@Miaplaysmm258
But she is 🇪🇺 citizen and he can live with her inside EU
Obviously not.....@@Miaplaysmm258
F, skatt sedel 🤔
I think he can stay because you are a EU citizen
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Definitely worth looking into. My husband is Belgian, so long as we met the required income to support ourselves I and my adult daughter are able to be residents. We've only been here almost two years though and I know the right to apply for citizenship saw the time a person is living in Sweden raised from, I think, four years.
Just hire your partner untill he finds a new job thats it.
Unemployment is on the rise.
Well the problem is that the LEFT and Liberalists in sweden is to blame 100%!
If the doors was a bit closed and we helped the people that needed help then this wouldn't happen. Now we are the whole world social office and that's not working in the long run!
It's just sad that people who works and do great thing is stuck in between ,Doesn't matter where they come from!
If someone follow the rules and add to society no one would say anything but that's far from reality right now!
Sorry?! More liberal rules would allow him to stay. The problem is caused by a combination of tougher immigration laws and Brexit.
Loosing a job is about company economy and these days it has a lot to do with rising interest rates and over all recession in the world. Not so much a right/left issue.
The problem for this family specifically is also about him not being a EU-citizen due to BREXIT which definitely was a RIGHT wing issue in UK.
And finally we have the increased demands on people living in Sweden without having Swedish citizenship, and those requirements are very much driven by the RIGHT wing in Sweden.
These new rules will be inforced wheter You are muslim or christian, black, brown or white and so on. It´s called DEMOCRACY.
So your crocodile-tears for this family and blaming the left and liberals is pure hypocricy.
Why not apply to a uppehållstillstånd? me and my family did it
i told u the day that u opened this channel, that sweds and sweden doesnt give a shit about people who work legally and pay taxes and obey by the rules, they gave permanent residencies and free housings for refugees that doesnt speak even english or want to find a job. why i left sweden is because i was working 2 jobs, and migrationsverket the immigration decided to not extend my residence permit cause i should have only one job witha salary of 13000 sek minimun instead of combining 2 jobs with 11 k each. so they basically kicked me out although i speak fluent swedish and was paying more taxes than most refugees. and u know what? its for the best, now im in another country where i earn less money, but the weather is warm, the food is delicious, and most importantly : the ppl are normal, they smile they talk they make jokes and they call you to check on you or to hang out. sweden offers you only depression, loneliness, and health and mental problems. and it will make your kids like robots with no family values . no one i knew in sweden was married or was still together with the mother of their kids. anyways if you still wanna live in that shitty country of sweden where nothing makes sense, my advice to you is that your husband can get a residence permit through you if you have one in sweden you simply apply for family reunification, but if you dont have that yourself, then you should check if your husband could get a german citizenship through you, which im pretty sure he can depending on how many years you been together and if you are married or not.
You need to scan the whole country for job in his field. Check North of Sweden also. Otherwise he can look for jobs in Norway. 😉🙏
All will be well ❤️🩹 I'm sure things will work out... and your husband will get an even better opportunity in Sweden! Everything happens for a reason!