Don't Pass and Don't Come - How to Play Craps Pt. 10
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- Don't Pass and Don't Come - How to Play Craps Pt. 10
The Don’t Pass and Don’t come bets. While most players avoid betting “against” the dice, mathematically, it is an ever so slightly better bet than the pass line. Because a player can make money betting either way, I feel like you should be knowledgeable and prepared to bet the “dark side."
When you bet the don’t pass line, you are considered a “wrong” better or a Dark sider. There is nothing wrong with betting this way, it’s just not common. The casino doesn’t care which you bet, as their house edge is the same either way.
So the Don’t pass and Don’t come, work just opposite the way the pass and come work. Unlike the pass & come, the Dont’s are not contract bets and can be taken down at any time.
The Don’t pass bet can only be made before the come out roll when the puck is in the off position. Now the come out roll, 7 or 11 is a loser, 2 or 3 is a win and pays even money.
There are 8 ways to roll a loser and only 3 ways to roll a winner. This is the big dis-advantage you have on the come out roll. If you can make it past the come out roll and a point is established, the odds of winning are now in YOUR favor as the seven is the number most likely to roll. At this point, No other number rolled effects the game. You simply wait for the seven to roll before the point number.
The Don’t Come bet works exactly like the Don’t pass bet, the only difference is you make this bet in the middle of the game, when a point number is already established and the puck is in the ON position. With the don’t come bet, you place the bet in the don’t come area, and if a point number is rolled, the Dealer will move your bet up to a number to mark it. If a seven rolls first and you win, he will pay it off in the don’t come area, and you will be responsible for collecting it. If you plan on making Don’t come bets, you probably want to position yourself around the table, so you can reach the don’t come area. Want to add odds? after the dealer moves your don’t come bet up, simply put your chips down on the layout and ask the dealer to “lay odds” on your don’t come.
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Frequent craps player but still unfamiliar with the don'ts. Love your channel
If somebody gets mad at you for playing the don’t pass just quote them “From my point of view the Jedi are evil”
Ha, love it
Rodolfo Linares lol nice
@@ColorUp what's up man great video I have a question if I'm the shooter and I play the dont pass line and there's a point established but the 7 comes up first obviously I win but do I keep shooting because I technically won or do I win but I have to give up the dice because I craped out???
@@davidrodriguez3195 If a number is marked and a 7 rolls, this is a
"seven out", the dice always pass to next shooter. Yes, even though you are a winner with your don't pass bet.
The first time I played craps it was at a 25$ table. I ended up switching to don't pass after the 7 kept coming up. Most of the players shut up after I said I was betting don't pass to follow the dice. The dealer was the only one that stayed upset.
I've watched a bunch of your videos and they're all great! Thank you!
Thank you, really appreciate the kind words.
I had a great chuckle about the right way bettors being pissed at the wrong way bettor. I have to agree to keep it low key when you win on the dark side.
As a math guy I love the don't pass
Come out roll, 28/36 you won’t lose.
Once a point is reached, the odds are always in your favor.
Only Playing the don’t pass, no odds.
Am I wrong?
Me too
@@jbeavers151you are correct
With these vids that you share with us, I get these instant urges to jump in my car, burn out of the garage and then just floor it to the one Craps table we have in town here 😂😂😂
Eric Boyles haha, well at least you have access, currently I’m a plane flight away from closest craps table, probably why I started filming my own!
@@ColorUp I have four casino's where I live and are a 40 minute drive from my house.
this guy cuddnt deal his way out of a wet paper bag
@@michaelmccormack3981 He acknowledges in another video that he's not a dealer.
Me too man!
Here’s why I bet the don’t. When do you usually walk away from a table? After a 7-out is when I usually leave. It’s when everything is settled, and all of your chips are in your hand. If you are betting against the dice, your last event at the table is a win. It’s a small thing but I like it
Every rolls ends with a 7.
@@ColorUpyou didn't understand him
@@richardly1543 I think I did. He likes to walk away with a win on the 7. I was agreeing by saying every roll ends with a 7. So if you bet the 7, you always end with a win with each shooter. Ha
You can tend to find me hoopting & hollerin every single time I win while everybody else looses. I'm usually cheering "show me the big bad number" while everybody scared for it to show 😂😂😂😂
*loses
Very concise explanation. I do play this strategy when the table grows cold again. I play both sides depending on the luck of the table. Thank you for all your vids! I’m a pretty good craps player now, from a lot of your vids! Thank you!!
Eric Boyles thank you for the kind words, and good luck on coloring up!
I've had all kinds of numbers covered on the don't side and have had all of them picked off before the 7, that's painful.
The first cut is the deepest, NoT really, just gotta live with this black dog
Thank you for great videos, I'm still learning and these videos are really appreciated. I never considered playing "the dark side" until now. I think mostly because I was sure at least one other player was holding a hangman's noose and ready to use it on me if I did play that way !
trythischannel some people can get salty, but bottom line, it’s your money, and the 7 is most common number so....
@@ColorUp Yes, very true.
I just tell them when they get angry, you guys get paid during the game and I sit here and wait to get paid at the end the game. Bottom line we all are against the casinom
Thank u sooo much 4 demonstrating this
I like the DP / DC bets. Minimum bet with $30 odds, making a total of three on each roll.
I like to play the don't pass and the field and 568 kind of like a iron cross i guess . I might have to try some dont come action.
fukin poker players
Don't Pass/Don't Come is to Craps to what the Banker is to Baccarat; the push rule for a boxcar (12) may throw off some betters just like the 5% commission for the Banker bet in Baccarat, but its still the smarter play, and sort of becomes the insurance for sevening out in the point rolls.
should’ve mentioned that on the Dont Come u can call out “No Bet” if u don’t want to lay on that number like a 6 or 8, i jus learned that
Really enjoyed this video. Looking for your other Darkside videos. I am thinking about turning over to the dark side...
Go Browns...
I have a few, GO Browns
The force it's strong with this one. I kinda wanna play now. I wonder if Hollywood casino has a craps table
Ha, I love star wars...which Hollywood casino? what city are you closest to?
Color Up I live in Columbus Ohio
Cool, I used to live there in Delaware, Oh for a minute. Yes Hollywood Cbus has craps table.
Nice. I'll have to check it out one day and use one of your strategies. I've learned so much from this channel. From not knowing anything to feeling like I can take on the table. My aunt likes to play the slots at the Hollywood in Toledo. We went there for my birthday. Made $60 in slots and walked. Not risking it all. Lol
Daniel Cardenas walk away is the key to every casino game :) in cbus I think the table minimums are usually $10 instead of $5, so be prepared for that. On weekends or late night might even be $15. Not enough competition in the area for lower limits. Good luck on coloring up!
I like playing the Don't Pass with one Don't Come. I like to hedge my Don't Come bet by adding odds to my DP and then taking it down after the DC is set. I can't tell you the number of times a seven hits while I am trying to establish the DC but let me tell you it happens rather frequently. The Martingale is a loser but I have good success with a mini bet up after each loss and a down bet after each win. On a 5 dollar table after each loss I add $2 to my next bet which is really good on a choppy table (lose one, then win one and I am ahead). I can lose usually up to 5 or 6 in a row and then with a couple of wins be pretty much back in the game whereas if was doing a straight Martingale I would be busting out or risking a bundle. On a 5 dollar table I buy in for $100 and if I am unlucky to lose it I do not continue the adding to the buy-in, I walk away. I would like to see you try this method on one of your videos - it's a grind but I have been winning quite often with it. I do play around with addition hedge bets when my bet rises after a couple of losses. A hedge such as a dollar on a hardway to increase my chances when the number is a 4,6,8,10 and when I am betting even higher amounts due to losses even a yo hedge on the establishing point for the DP or DC. I don't know if the Hardways and the yo are sound bets in those cases but they sure feel good when they hit. I treat the DP and DC winning and losing streaks as independent of one another - I may be back to the minimum bet on one and 3 or 4 losses in a row on the other. The beauty of this is two fold, first, I never lose more than my buy-in in any one session but I can and have won more than the buy-in on many occasions (my highest winning session at a 5 dollar table is $165 ahead), my second advantage is that often this is an up and down system I might be down by $40 and then go up which leaves me the option of when to leave the table - so if I am playing up and down for a while I can simply decide to color up when I am ahead, yes, I might only win $20 to $30 but if I am starting to feel a little tired, then take the money and run - rest and return later on.
nice strategy
@@andrewjones6157 I played this for 40 sessions at live casino play and was up over $400 for one year with six losing sessions and 34 winning sessions. A number of winning sessions were smaller amounts where I chose to quit after playing for a while (try to quit ahead and when you get tired of the grind). One thing I failed to mention is moving up $2 each after several losses but after the next win the bet is adjusted down by $3. Betting $2 up after a loss and $3 down after a win is the ratio that creates a down draft which gets you back to the starting level. The amount you start your bet, of course, can be scaled to your bankroll, $5 table is merely an example.
He meant 2 to 3 payout at the end. Not 3 to 2.
one of the best videos on craps..
Very few like or know about playing the "dark side"
What if I bet the don’t come when the point is on and the next roll is the point? Also what’s the standard multiple for odds on don’t pass and when the don’t come is on a number?
If you establish a dont come number, the shooter rolls a 7 and you win. Can you keep the dont number up or does it come down automatically. Thx
Great videos and instruction. Very well explained and easy to follow. How about something on buying the numbers. Thanks.
I'd buy a 36, 24, 36 - - but I hear prostitution is frowned upon. L.o.L.!
Honestly, Color Up has a good theory on buying the 4 & 10 (& what-not).
Yes Buying the #s
Need more don't pass videos mixed with other side bets... You don't have to play the don't pass with the don't come...
B- Dill I have a handful of don’t strategies on this channel, obviously not as popular as do strategies though
Color Up ur right... I did notice... after I sent that... but the Don't Pass bets don't have to be mixed with the Don't come
@@BDiLL22 A fun strategy is to bet on Don't Pass. After the point is established, make Place bets. Then start making Come bets.
The last time i played i switched to dont pass when it was my turn at dice. Some of the other players were a little salty but backed off when i kindly explained how much i lost playing come. The dealer however got salty because everyone either temporarily stoped betting or only placed a pass or dont pass bet so the casino was making nothing for about 20 minutes.
not sure why your dealer would care? They make money from their salary and tips, doesn't really matter if casino is making money or not, they aren't getting profit sharing ha.
@@ColorUp That's what I'd like to know. In any case karma got her for killing the mood. I normally practice craps playing VR. The problem is the dice need less force IRL to properly roll. As I threw them they hit the wall with to much force and shot towards the dealer nuking the stakes of chips they have lined up in front of them. I rolled seven on the next roll and decided that was enough craps for the night.
Oh I love betting on "don't pass" I love it when 7 shows up and everybody loses . Everyone gets pissed but I am there all happy and shit!
Yep, for the haters of the Dark Side rollers - - tell 'em:
"Look, there is NOT ONE THING that I do on this board, that will affect the outcome of YOUR roll. If you think my bets on the Dark Side are fouling your rolls up, go tap the Easter Bunny on the shoulder & ask him his opinion on it. He lives & dies on your silly superstition as well.".
😂😂😂 so true
Woohoo the Darkside :)
+sirg2424 Use of the dark side of the Force granted certain abilities that were generally closed to a user of the light side...:)
I always like to play the dark side
Michael Riccio always? I mix it up more now than I used to
I find if I mix it up then I can't keep consistent.
Michael Riccio yeah, I don’t go back and forth in the middle of a session, usually only switch later in day or on different trip
exactly! I like how concise and informative your videos are. They are such a pleasure to watch compared to some of the ridiculous nonsense so people post. Keep up the good work and keep them coming please. Are you close to Atlantic City or Vegas?
exactly! I like how concise and informative your videos are. They are such a pleasure to watch compared to some of the ridiculous nonsense so people post. Keep up the good work and keep them coming please. Are you close to Atlantic City or Vegas?
I used to be a casino and craps dealer for several years and have played craps numerous times.
What I have noticed that very very few people even play the Don’t Come bet. It is rarely played. I don’t mess with it. If I want, I will lay a 4 or 10 and pay the vig as a hedge against a seven out.
The few people I saw play it will chicken out if a six or eight rolls and wave it off. So basically you have people hoping for crap or a 4 or 10 and lay odds.
Honestly I think dealers wouldn’t mind if Dont Cone was taken off of the layout.
Ha, well they did remove with the crapless tables..
It will be a good close game tommorow. Good luck !
I hope so!
color up, where did you get that little table layout? It looks great!
Have Fun casino4you.com
"If I cheer for the Browns, and you cheer for the Cowboys, it doesn't affect the outcome of the game."
No, but cheering for either leads to inevitable disappointment. Just like the tables most nights 🤣
It sounds like you are saying, a bet in the don't come wins when a 7 is rolled next. A bet in the don't come loses when the seven is next rolled before the another point is established.
When a dont come bet is made, the first roll a 7/11 causes it to lose, a 2/3 causes it to win. After a number is established a 7 is a winner.
@@ColorUp Yes, all correct but your video is confusing. You show a bet in the don't come and paying the bet when you say a 7 is rolled.
So I made a mistake? If so, it happens sorry
Just watched your don't come video. Question: point established. place a don't come bet. Next roll is the point. The don't come loses or does it move to the point won? second q. If the don't come is put on the last point, what happens on the come out? If the point on which the don't come resides is thrown, I know you lose because this type of bet is always working. What happens if a 7 rolls am I paid or do I lose? 3rd q.can I take down the don't come before the come out roll? thanks
The point or puck can be ignored for a dont come bet. The first roll it loses to any 7 or 11 while in dont come box. It would move to the old “point” if that’s what is rolled. Then wins with any 7, or loses if the number it’s on is rolled. The puck or main “point” doesn’t effect a dont come. Think of it as a game within a game. You can remove dont bets at anytime and casinos happily allow, because player takes risk on first roll, after that the player is more likely to win.
Please help with max odds! Isn't it always 6? Why is my house saying 6. 7.5, and 10?
Excellent video. Have my own table and have found some success by playing the dc7 until I’ve seen a run of sevens. Then I’ll switch to the pass line until I see a dearth of sevens ,then back to the dc7. Don’t believe in hot or cold tables. Also think dice setters are kidding themselves. I’m a math guy and realize the casino will most likely get me in the end. Just enjoy rolling the bones
It's a great game, for math guys and for superstition guys,
I don't care to play with don't betters. It's just that most players are pass line and come betters. I don't think there's any real advantage to being a don't better. And yes I've heard all the arguments! The problem with pass line betters is they tend to play all the sucker bets. Everything from the CE, hard ways, hops & fire bets! Where as don't betters usually have to have a large bank roll because they get paid less and only play don't pass and don't come with odds. And whether you are on the right or wrong side that's the way to bet. Everything else is just a sucker bet and drains your bankroll.
Although I only play pass line and come bets with odds, I do enjoy watching all the pass line betters making crazy sucker bets! And its fun watching them win. But most end up losing because they're sucker bets.
well said.
Jeff Stone I agree! I call those bets, carnival bets.
Go Browns!!
If I do a $1500 parlay with the Cowboys and you’re sitting by me at a bar I’ll tell you get the fuck out of here lol
Okay ha
Everybody knows you never bet the Cowboys
Have a silly question,after watching all your videos been having allot of crappy shooters including myself lately. I’m considering moving to only play the dark side. But doing my research first. So can I play every other number from 4-10 and not play the point mark,and play the don’t pass line as an insurance? But I will be making money and pressing my bets if this is allowed?
Not sure I understand exactly. Do you mean bet the don't pass. Lets say its a 9. Then make a place bet on the remaining numbers? Yes, you can make some of your bets right side, and some dark side.
Color Up wil try that this weekend thank you
That style of betting is called a cover or blanket.
he put a point on "6", when he should have it on a "5" @ 5:51...that DarkSide is a tricky bet, he corrected himself in the green highlight, lol...good vid anyway...
boris Ydnag I do my best, but make plenty of mistakes...thanks for watching
@colorup There’s no way I’m watching this today and cowboys thrash the browns Sunday😂😂😂😂 I’m feeling lucky
Something you have never covered. Where do I find what the house edge is on each No Number once they have a bet on them?
If you know please say here.
Example from a Don’t Come bet of $10. When the DC bet travels to become each “No Number”.
I know how each one works and how they pay with and without odds. I just want to know the house edge % of the no 4, no 5, and no 6 when they are each established.
Edge for a don’t or DC, stays same at 1.36% now if you were to make a no bet (lay bet) direct on the number, here is a video that shows house edge ruclips.net/video/P6ZG7TofIX8/видео.html
I know that career dealers hate these things, but yesterday I played at one of those electronic tables on a casino boat. I genuinely missed the “real” action, clicking of chips, interplay with the dealers, etc. But if I’m playing “the don’ts” I’ll be more comfortable at these tables where nobody can see my bets because they are only visible on my monitor.
What is the key to calculate the vig laying the 6 or 8?
5% of your expected win. Lay bet pays 5:6 on the 6 or 8, so if you bet $30 you win $25 minus $1.25 vig. (5%) depending on your casino they will round down to $1 or up to $2
What about playing the don’t pass line and then laying multiple COME bets?
Sure, interesting option. You would want your come bets to win first, then when 7 comes you win your don't pass.
@@ColorUp I like the concept because once the point is established, if a seven hits the first or second roll then you’re still making a profit, if it hits the third, then it’s only a push, you’re not losing any money, I would likely only go up to 4 numbers working at once if it gets that far, and if the bank roll calls for it haha
What is the max amount of odds you can put behind a don’t pass? Does it follow a similar structure as pass for the usual 3-4-5 odds tables? I’ve heard it’s always up to six times but I can’t seem to clarify that anywhere...
It is always 6x on a 3,4,5x odds table only. With the don't, max odds is based on the payout, not the amount bet. For example, on a 10x odd table, if your don't bet is $5 you could win $50 by betting $100 on the numbers 4 or 10 (payoff is 1:2) In this example you bet 20x to win back the table max of 10x because the odds pay 1:2. Hope this helps you some.
Color up, I am in Colorado and here we have a $100 max bet limit. How would you play max odds on the Don't pass? Knowing that I need to lay more odds to make the bet, I'm a little confused what the flat bet should be to be able to make the most out of this?
I have just recently moved to CO! I never make a $100 so I'm not positive. But I have read it is a hard $100 limit, so with the Don't, on a $5 table with 10x odds allowed you could bet $100 on the 4 or 10 to win back $50 for example. Odds of $75 would win back $50 on the 5 and 9, and $60 would win $50 on the 6 and 8. Obviously this is effected by your base bet and the odds allowed. So if you raised base bet up to $10 on a 10x table you could lay $90 on the 6/8 to win back $75
@@ColorUp wow that's great! What area did you move to? The weather here is great. Nothing too extreme either direction with regards to climate.
I was thinking to put a flat $16 and Max odds. But the odds bet (it any bet) cannot exceed $100. So since the tables here I think are 3,4,5x odds does that apply to don't pass bets? Or is don't pass and don't come always set for 6x the flat?
When I went, and my memory may be off, all the tables were 5 or 10 times. 6x the flat is always the case when on a 3,4,5x table. I moved up into the Rockies NW of Denver, the weather is.....well it was 9' the other morning yikes cold.
@@ColorUp I see. Ya, I went to Ameristar last time and all their tables were 3,4,5 and a 10 min at the time. I'm not sure if that drops during the day, but this was a Thursday night I think. I haven't played in a long while but it was your videos that really got me fired up about it again. So I thought I would begin revisiting the ol' fun times! I'm currently a tournament poker player, but sometimes it gets really gruelling with the cold streaks.
I was born and raised here in Colorado. Highlands ranch area. The Winters here aren't nearly what they used to be when I was a kid, and they're getting warmer each year for sure! Don't even need a 4wd unless you live in the hills or flatlands. I'm currently in Arvada area. Hopefully I'll see you up there someday soon!
Have Fun weekends limits do change and Ameristar a little diff beast than the rest. They think they fancy :) anyway, yeah I’m loving CO so far and maybe see ya at the tables one day.
Hey there Color Up. Just watched this video from the vault and hope you're still checking comments on it. I saw a recent video from another RUclipsr R.G. "at the D" you probably know him, he declined a point (6) on a DC bet. Is that fairly common? That sounds like a great incentive to play dark.
It is fairly common for players to decline a don't come point of 6 or 8. But you should Never do that. Here is a video where I describe why. ruclips.net/video/tX-YxlO3PmQ/видео.html
You should never decline a Don't bet.
If you bet the Dont Pass, and a 7 hits after the come out roll, you win your Dont pass bet but your place bets get taken away? And if you hit the point number while playing the dont pass, you lose your dont pass bet but all your place numbers stay up? Am I not understanding this?
But if you play the Pass line, if a 7 is rolled after the come out roll, all bets are gone. And if you roll the point, your place bets stay and you win your pass line bet. I dont see why anybody would bet the dont pass.
You have the understanding down correctly. People play the don't pass because once the point is set, the 7 is always more likely to roll and win vs any of the numbers.
I understand only playing the Dont Pass, because of that reason. I dont get playing the dont pass line while having place bets on the board as if a seven hits, you lose your place bets but win your dont pass bet. Its like you want and dont want a 7 at the same time so it seems poinless unless you only place the dont pass, and maybe the field.
@@skylohs4631 Starting with a Don't Pass bet and adding Place bets is a very common hedging strategy.
My question is if I place a DC bet and it goes to a number say for instance 4 and the point is 10, say 10 hits and the puck is off should I be working on the come out and if I am working on the come out and they roll a 4 do I win or lose
Don't bets are always working. So if you have a DC bet that traveled to the 4, the puck being on or off does not effect this game. A 4 will lose the bet, a 7 will win.
y take odds on the dont?
when the puck is on you should have postive ev but a true odds has no ev
so you would be lowering the positive ev percent at that point
should you just flat bet the dont and raise it up to higher units instead of the minimum?
If you raise your flat bet up, you are risking more against the most probable number for the come out, but after point is established you are for sure in great position. As far as taking odds, its a completely fair bet, and really doesn't effect the initial bet one way or another. If you want to get more action on the number, then take odds, it increases the volatility of your bankroll, it does not increase your chances of winning.
I was always under the impression that if you’re shooting , a pass line bet is required. So that isn’t the case? I can shoot and bet don’t pass alone? What about shooting and betting the field alone like in the martingale strategy
Jonathan X a pass line OR don’t pass bet is required if you are the shooter, anyone else there are no requirements
Color Up, personally, I don’t shoot the dice if I’m playing the Don’t Pass. Because, to other players, I’m rooting publicly for me to win with their misfortune. Everyone is putting bets on the table and here I am, shooting for my own selfish greed, so if it’s my turn to shoot, I play the Pass line while hedging this bet with a Craps Check 🙂
@@ericboyles7208 Hedging with a craps bet will lose you more money.
When I was a kid, I had a craps computer game that paid even money on don't pass/come odds bets. I don't even think it had to be the point to take odds, you could just bet against 4,5,6,8,9,10 at any time for even money. I figured it HAD to be like this at the casino since it was like that on my game, and couldn't WAIT to be 21 so I could a killing at a real casino. Then I did some digging and realized it didn't work like that at all. Dreams= dashed lol
blackandblue10 ha, that’s a great story, if only.....go Bucks!
Dam
On a come out can you bet on both the pass line and the don't pass in order to get past the come out roll when you're betting dark
Phillip Caudillo in most casinos yes, and it’s typically called “doey don’t” 12 is still a loser though
Then what
Would it make sense to make a 6/8 place bet when playing don’t pass and don’t come?
Yes. But you should bet at least 2 units on the don't pass. That way you'd win on 6/8 and about break even on 7. And lose on point. Great system in my opinion
My favorite strategy is to start with a $100 Don't Pass bet and then add $80 to $110 on the inside numbers, depending on the point.
Is it a lose if the point off?
If the shooter hits their point yes you lose.
I see it as betting against someone's foot ball team. It makes no difference and the odds are in your favor when you bet for a 7 to roll
Yep, betting on the favorite to win, gets paid less, but more likely to happen
I don't understand. Don't Come just seems to add more numbers that you lose on, when the number that you win on, 7,stays the same. Increasing the risk of losing.
There are 6 ways to roll the 7, a don't come bet is a bet on the 7. If the don't come bet is on any other number, 4 thru 10, there are always less ways to roll that number. So the don't come always has more ways to win than to lose.
Hi, where is part 11?????????
You can get me complete beginner series on my website www.colorup.club
so if you play the pass and dont pass then bet the dont come arent you betting winning odds now? The pass and dont pass bets cancel each other out, and the dont come always has better odds since 7 is the most likely number. What am I missing? Is this correct?
Boba Defett the pass and don’t pass cancel each other out except when 12 rolls, you will lose the pass. Also let’s say you make it past come out roll and place a don’t come bet, the 7 or 11 will make this lose on first roll, but after that you are right, the don’t is more likely to win after the first roll
If you think you get some looks betting darkside, I’ve done it when I was the shooter! And won
Getting looks don't bother me. Its my money, and Im trying to win.
Shooting from the donts, shooter says he wont!
“The point is five” lays point on 6 *
Sorry, I do make mistakes from time to time.
Adding additional odds, Begins to give the edge back to the house.
Just like adding Odds behind your pass line bet lowers the house edge conversely adding to the dark side would raise the house's edge.
Ricardo Cortez Douglas this is incorrect, laying odds is a statistically fair bet with zero house edge. The more you lay, the lower the house edge average decreases. It does not increase your chance of winning any more though.
Color Up I went to the Wizard of odds page and it would seem that he agrees with you. I guess it does make sense if the edge is zero, it would be zero, no matter how much you stack next to your initial bet.
Love your channel.
I'm a pretty fair craps player, if you are ever near Reno or Vegas, I'd love to hit the tables with you.
Ricardo Cortez Douglas I’m a fairly poor craps player ha, I’m looking forward to hitting Reno in near future hopefully!
Can you do a video on crapless craps? I heard that you can make bank with the right strategy. I played it once and got murdered. Seems like it's a big hit at the casino I frequent.
I should...the big difference is there are more "poor" bets available to make with crapless craps. Not sure it would be better to "make bank" as typically it provides higher house edge on most bets.
five sstars !!!
john meksa out of 10? :) thanks!
Hi, good video! My question is: Can I make a pass line bet and then switch to a don't pass bet after the point is established?
no you cannot. you would have to make a don't come bet after the point is set to get a don't number
@@ColorUp ok, thanks
@@ColorUp if I bet a $10 min on the don't pass, how much should I lay down on odds?
@@katiekaisersmith Just depends on what you are comfortable with, the table will have a maximum amount you can lay, but you don't have to do the maximum, you can do a little or non at all. A lot of don't players don't like to lay odds because you are betting more to win back less, but thats because you have the advantage with the 7 working for you.
@@katiekaisersmith I wish I could switch from pass to a don't pass when the point is 4 or 10 because those are the best numbers for don't pass player to have as a point. I found out this play wasn't allowed a few days ago I was a little sad.
how i bet doesnt effect the outcome of the dice, if someone wants to pick a fright with me good luck, picking a fight on a guy in a wheelchair is a bad look lol
Does a 7 on the come out roll win all the don’t come bets
Yes, established don't come bets would win on a new come out roll
Anthaxo 1207 out come will loose 7 and 11 so 8 way to lose and 3 way to win , so what you can do is bet 4 and 10 lay bet , which prevent 7 come out roll
@@ColorUp do dont come bets need to be working on the come out roll to win a roll of 7?
@@chadnollenberg1237 Yes, by default don't come bets are working once they are up on a number, and there is a new come out roll.
@@chadnollenberg1237 Don't Come bets are always working.
Was wondering if it’s ok to increase your odds your laying as the hand goes on? For example: Start by laying single odds then increase them as the hand goes on and your waiting on the seven. Statistically the likelihood of a seven should increase with each non seven throw. And yes, I do understand that each roll is an independent event. However, long term the bell curve of numbers must average out. Thanx
Yes, you can increase your odds or lower or remove your odds at anytime after the point is set.
Hi, If I'm playing the don't pass, wouldn't it be smart to make place bets on the 8 and 6, then I have bets on the 3 numbers that come up the most? If it sevens out I would only lose $4 instead of $44 because I have my don't pass. And I would hopefully win on the 6 and 8 a lot before it seven's out. Also, it seems silly to lay odds on the don't pass if the point is 6 or 8, since they are so likely to come up.
Am I right?
This video shows the strategy you are talking about. ruclips.net/video/InIIQsUAFiE/видео.html
Laying Odds on any point makes sense to reduce the house edge.
Question about turning off Bets: it's my understanding you can turn off "any" bet except the Pass and Come bets as they are contract bets.
it's also my understanding you can turn off your Come Odds, and that if they are turned off at the moment of a seven out, the Come Odds are pushed whereas the come bet is lost.
What about Don't come bets with odds? can you turn off both the Don't come Bet and the Don't come odd? or just the Don't come odd? and if you do have the option to turn off the don't come bet, can you turn off just the don't come odd? Probably NOT of consequence as I doubt anyone ever does it, but just curious about the ability to turn off bets.
thanks!
Sounds like you have everything correct. As far as the donts, they are not contract bets, because after the point is established the player is more likely to win vs the casino so they will happily let you remove the bet. So you can remove or lower the odds or the main bet as you wish....not a great idea, but you are allowed.
Go Browns!
There is always next year! 😂go browns!
i Bet MOSTLY on the DON'T. i'm that guy that Most the Table Hates but i DON'T Giv a FK!!! 🤣
Only superstitious players care, I certainly don’t care, either way you play, it’s against the casino, not the other players
So complicated, would rather play blackjack lol.
I play black side and I love it. I went too Murphy NC last night and win $300 profit I started with $200
Decatur GA nice, I could use $100 :)
Get out of here if I had your money I’d burn mine. lol
Wish more players would join the dark side ;)
imagine if a whole table cheered when the seven hit, ha
I have played with a whole table of darksiders. It was a blast!
Thats great! where was that at?
I've tried to convince newbies that keep losing to join me in the dark side and the dealers get mad. Lol
You should redo this video and correct the mistakes you made. You stated the you get paid on a don't come if a 7 rolls, in the beginning of the video at 4:41. Come on man! lol
How bout you redo it, and I will link to your video. :) ha
@@ColorUp You know, I have been thinking about that. I need to find a good craps table and video camera first and I may give it a go!
@@ColorUp But I do enjoy your videos and your commentary to be fair.
KUF The Other players when i Bet on the DON'T!! They don't give Me $$ or Live with Me So KUF'em if they don't Understand i'm playing what i feel is My best Advantage!!
Yep, your money. Play how you want.
@@ColorUp i Don't Celebrate though when they Lose. i Need table 2 Stay packed as i Need More Shooters 2 bet against!
Every bet you make is against to casino. Pass or Don't Pass
Hold em guy here. I'm in the casino, I hear lots of cheering in the background. Yet at my table it is just chip clanking, the occasional snarky comment about chasing the flush or bad beats. Perhaps a "just this one time" plea before the river. I listen to this video and it sounds like another language. But the ever present social interactions are muted playing no limit tx hold'em, particularly compared to a game like craps. I cant help but want to join in on the banter over there where people are crowded together, drinks in hand laughing with neighbors. Certainly there are the sighs and shaking heads after a loss, as well, but it's like a whole other universe by comparison.
How many hours have I spent playing cards and doing fairly well. Yet the grinding boredom after 4 or 5 hrs gets to me. 18 years into the art of the wager and I want some fresh concepts. That said, dice and craps scare the hell out of me. Yet I imagine if I watch these videos enough and perhaps download an app to try some of these things out, I may actually start to understand wtf is going on. Cheers and thanks for putting out these videos
Get thru the Beginner series and you will be well on your way. Its a fun game and why I love it so much. Of course its a negative EV game, so you won't get the same results you do at poker. But might be a nice break from time to time for ya.
Here we go Steelers!!
Ha, Go BROWNS!!
How about a hard way hedge on the 6 and 8 in the iron cross strategy
Robert Barocas sure, if you like to play the hard ways
Cowboys stand up 🎲🏈💸
Great vid 😎
old video and the maths right but technicality, their superstition means it does or could effect THE outcome just not the odds at infinitum because of the effect. Like if their getting slightly irritated and throw the dice harder or quiver. Even very minutely butterfly effect style, the combination of the extra smooth surface in a specific location followed by an exhaled sigh altering the airflow in response altering the dust and lay of the felt making the die spin a little bit less before hitting the wall causing it to bounce instead of rotate.. Yes these are insanely out of our perception and reach in real time especially but it is also reality and the physical truth of the shorter term that is a single roll.
Thanks for your feedback
@@ColorUp So..! Am I there to help him win by not playing the, Don't pass or am I there to win??? Not trying to be a Butt, but It's a Game and I want to win! Everyone should play the Don't Pass and we could all have fun winnig!
Sorry Color up that was meant for, Mizz Eve. ha!
Read my reply to your reply under Color ups reply! Haa!
comenting pupicly as blue boy
ok?
DON"T lay odds, if you win you get 100% on your bet. Laying odds lowers for R.O.I. ( see don't pass, don't come don't dice setting clip)
Garrison thanks for your point of view
confused ending!!
It’s all about probability. Wager more if you understand the probability is in your favor pull back if it’s not. The probability of a 7 increases everytime it doesn’t hit. Same for all other numbers.
Nope, probabilities reset after every roll. Each roll is independent. Every roll there is a 1 in 6 chance of 7 rolling. Whether it’s been one roll or 100, the next roll has same probability
@@ColorUp it’s technically 6 out of 36 and to be more exact for the non lamens, volatility and odds has more to do with reality than the strict definition of probability. If a seven hits over and over the volatility increases and odds of hitting seven decreases. My dads friend worked in the gambling division of Konami, as a child they challenged me to test their games. I learned that when and how much you bet has more to do with winning than the actual odds on paper. The way I beat the games almost in a determined way by was wagering below 1 percent of your bag and doubling down and pulling in a patterns then walking when up. In fact the that’s why they force black jack players who count cards to to flat bet because they can’t bet down against the odds. Casinos know this and Is the main reason they kick out gamblers. I figure if they kick you out over it it must work. And I have been banned for playing craps and black jack at all MGM resorts unless I flat bet playing black jack at the higher end establishments that require over $100 bets, Or craps that requires a minimum $25 bet. Yes 6 out of 36 in real life does equate the same as 1 out 6 but on paper but in practice it’s 6 out of 36 otherwise the mathematicians wouldn’t say 6 out of 36 and then in annotate 1 of 6. Technically the same on paper but in a real world scenario it’s not the same unless you are in the thousands of rolls….. one out 6 can be determined in hundreds of rolls 6 out 36 is only proven to be determined by thousands of rolls.
Technically 6 out of 36 is the exact probability as 1 out of 6. And no if a 7 hits multiple times, the odds of 7 does not decrease. It remains the same. You can look back at past results and see and define the volatility, but the next roll is same odds as last roll, and every roll after that.
Dont pass, font come, dont field, fk it just dont bet at all.
Go browns
The biggest risk is that you have a losing strategy when you think you have a winning strategy.
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What?
Cleveland Browns fan?
Sadly, yes haha
I'm watching this and i have literally no fucking idea what is coming out of his mouth
deadpenguinss words
Not a good strategy , It is a way to play but not likely a winner , There is one way to always win , Minimize your losses while Maximizing your wins , It is not only possible but it's a sure winner , I NEVER Lose on a dice table , Haven't had a job in 15 years
I appreciate you going through and watching all my videos, but not sure there is a need to leave the same comment on every video. "your way is the only way to play, and you never lose"
Where are you videos James? Share the strategy, don't be so stingy lol
Either we both win money and be happy or we don't.
But I'm not gonna be happy when I lose and you're cheering 😅🤣📣.
it's an impolite bet lol
Impolite? It is meant to be played both ways. There are some people that don't like to see it, but its part of the game. It would be weird to be mad at someone betting banker, when you bet player in baccarat. Im not going to be mad if you bet the Steelers over my Browns. I will be mad if they lose, but not at you for betting on them?
@@ColorUp you will be if they rub it in your face w over celebration
nthnppps nah, Browns almost always lose, so I’ve left stadium 🏟 many times mad my team/bet lost. While Steelers fans are celebrating. Doesn’t bother me...I picked the wrong side