Slafkovský has had his moments this season and he's still very young but my main concern with him is that it's almost as if Slafkovský is how you say Lindros in Slovak because he's gotta keep his head up and stop putting himself in a vulnerable position to get hit.
5 goals in 7 games for Harvey-Pinard. Him and Dach are fun to watch right now. I don't care that the team is tanking. They have really good prospects for the first time in many years!
My boy Johnny Hawkey was spot on from day one of the trade. I remember him being the first one to claim without a doubt that the habs are laughing their way to bank with this trade the morning after draft day. Was spot on with Monahan too.
@@gastondeveaux3783 I personnally wouldn't say he's done... but his role is obviously changing, he can't be the guy doing all the physical work anymore. Obviously, since it's mainly the reason why he's been so good in the past, he might never be of use again on the first 2 lines. However, I think he can be of great help on a 3rd or 4th line. Unfortunately, with such a role, there's no way we can trade him before his (bad) contract ends. Not that big of a deal considering our biggest contracts will be Nick Suzuki and Caufield at around 7-8m each for the remaining of Gally's.
@@0racle999 hopefully by the time the team competes, Gally can have the kind of role that Byron had in the 2021 playoffs. Byron was seen as this anchor contract all year, but in the playoffs he was an absolute beast and I'm glad the Habs had him.
lol i played against dach when we were 13-14. i was a goalie and i remember my goalie parter saying to me “the kids goin to the chel😳😳” before we played him, and something along the lines of we’re going to get lit up, and that we did ! my team also went 0-32-0 that year.. wasn’t the best time
i think dach has always had first line elite potential. hes got the size the shot the skill, the playmaking, its hard to even put him up against someone bc he has the size with all the skill
Frank Nazar and Kevin Korschinsky are really good prospects, I think alot of people are phoning the trade in as a win already when the stuff that was aquired hasn't even played. Unless those 3 players never step on the ice, I think we should hold off on calling winners but still be happy with what both got.
Yeah this was a huge head scratcher from Chicago. He had a solid rookie year and showed flashes of greatness. They gave up too soon on him, probably why they're as bad as they are right now
Dach was terrible last season for the Hawks. He was regressing and needed a change of scenery which he’s getting in Montreal right now, also Kent Hughes overpaid for Dach at last years draft which made it an easy trade for Chicago to make.
He gave me some Corey Perry vibes when he first arrived in Montreal for how he works the boards and plays around the net. Also, the fact he was playing Right Wing and has an edge to him. I think there is some Sheiffele now that he is shooting more and at Centre.
@@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004 I’m actually a huge fan. Name me a Montreal born player that’s been this good in the last 10 years that the Habs have drafted? If you want to exclude drafting and included traded for then Danault is the only answer.
@Young Guns Podcast I'm from Little burgundy 10min walk to the bell center ain't about where you from its the knowledge of the game. Don't hype up players who haven't made any statement in the league yet
@@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004 So we cannot celebrate the great story of Montreal born Habs player Harvey-Pinard who was drafted in the 7th round and is having a major impact with the team at 24 years old and playing first line minutes with Suzuki?
Never knew him personally, but had friends who played with Dach in Fort Sask AAA. They made him sound like a legend lol. Glad to see he's having success in the NHL though
Suzuki’s also playing injured and has Anderson and Pitlick as his line mates. I think he’ll be better than Dach long term but I really like the idea of a Dach-Suzuki-Caufield line.
If Slav develops well, the best would be Caufield-Suzuki-Slav, and Dach centering the second line (with Anderson Drouin or Hoffman or anyone else). With Dvorak as third center, it looks good. Now we need more wingers
@@dgib1694 I would be shocked if Dach stays centre much longer after this draft because it is loaded with centres. So in 2-3 years he could be a second line winger and a great one at that.
Dach was not a bust his whole time in Chicago. His rookie season (18-19 yo) he played 17 minutes per game in the playoffs and scored 6 points in 9 games with a +3. Unfortunately he got injured the following season preparing for the World Junior Championship, because the NHL was not playing so he was loaned. The Hawks never gave him a defined role when he came back, but honestly I saw enough skill in him in the few games I saw him play over three years that I was stoked when we traded for him.
Well, considering we traded DeBrincat I can tell you Hawks fans don’t really care about trading Dach. Dach sucked in Chicago. Head scratcher on paper, but I honestly don’t think he has this type of season with Chicago. It just wasn’t working.
Spot on man! Never saw it that way but it's true that Chicago seem to step back by a big margin with that trade. I hope Kent Hughes and Geoff Gorton will be able to pull off more tricks like that in near future
@@BattlefrontNow agree, but to me they had already a good player with good potential, now they just start back from 3-4 years. I'm not saying Nazar won't be good, I'm just saying that this is a big step back. Maybe Dach wasn't meant to be developped by Chicago, I really dunno, but what tell us that Nazar is meant to be developped by them then?
Look Dach most likely wouldn't what he is if he was in Chicago still. Kirby needed a change of scenery. The Hawks took a fast and high ceiling forward in Frank Nazar. Am I glad to see Kirby doing well yes because last season I said Dach will have his break out next season which ment this season. Therefore I will still say Dach wasn't working in Chicago and he likely still wouldn't be working if he was still here. I want nothing but the best for Dach to succeed but I'm looking real forward for the future with Frank Nazar.
Chicago clearly rushed him in the league. He wasn't ready to play in the NHL at 18 or 19 years old. With the habs, you are starting to see the player the Hawks drafted 3rd overall. The package was there, he just needed an environment that would allow him to put it all together and Montreal offered him exactly that! The kid not only developed his offensive skills, he also dug in and got that dog (chien) out of him. He's a menace on the ice now. His physical play is scary!! The fact that Kent Hughes got him for the 13th overall pick is unbelievable. He's a stud! Great video btw!
Bro I am so glad you turned a new Leaf and stopped doing the click bait and this has been probably your best stuff that I’ve watched in years over the last bit. good job brother.
Good to see, I think that wrist injury he had couple years back had something to do with his production in Chicago. They just kinda threw him back in there after his surgery and expect him to be 100%.
As a couch GM, I was quite disappointed in Davidson trading him away. Same with Debringcat. Could you imagine Dach, Debringcat, and, Bedard on a line? That would be wild. haha
Im loving all of these young guys making the habs team. I know St.Louie isnt the best in terms of coaching, but I do believe that anyone under his umbrella will take off in their carreer and find their niche, their place. As long as Molson gives St.Louie time, and has faith in this new team, the habs will be one of the top teams in the league in the next 2-3 years. Everyone just needs to get settled into this new era and things will start taking off. Mark my words.
I honestly think Chicago drafted him based on stats and outside analytical consensus, as opposed to team fit, and held him to that expectation. I watched Kirby play A ton his draft year in Sask. While he was never really that fast, flashy game-breaker you’d typically expect from a top 3 prospect, he had poise & NHL calibre awareness. Had he been taken later by a team who was patient enough to let him develop his pro game and fill out his 6’3” frame, he’d have never been considers a bust. Glad he’s doing well in MTL.
Anderson had a pretty good game, he got 2 assists, which we’ve been begging for this entire season. Suzuki seems like he’s injured so I definitely think they should take them out if it’s threatening at all. But he had a very good game today. Also Dach is one point behind Patrick Kane and two behind Max Domi.
I don't know if Johny Hawkey speaks french but the accent (or lack of) was on point ;) Dach looks great so far. Lot of potential. Liked Romanov but i don't see how this trade could end up being bad for Montreal.
Dach and Slaf are going to have stellar careers (if they keep healthy). Two big guys with speed and skills, they are necessary to the Habs future. They may not be generational but looking at what Dach is doing and Slaf's potential to do the same, I get the feeling we will be on board for great things to come. Slaf is 18… guys, 18! He's fresh out of high school for God's sake. We got to be patient. Some pretty nice talent is coming such as Hudson, Mailloux, Roy, Kidney, Farrel, etc Having a Connor McDavid is nice but having a solid defence and real talent spread out over all the trios is to me more efficient. The other team can never lower their gard and at some point during the game they make a mistake, then a penalty, and then things start to go haywire.
I don't know if I would by hyping Dach up quite this much. So far, he seems like a good supporting piece, but not someone you consider as part of the core. That's not really the type of player a team is going to feel regret for trading. Using the Blackhawks for another example: I don't think Dach is on the verge of being what Patrick Sharp was for them via the Philly trade way back. 32 points at this point of the season is nice, but its not "omg" territory by a long shot yet. It does seem like his underlying numbers are decent though.
You have to look at more than the points. The habs are a mess this season. There's no stability because there's a lack of talent, passion or players due to injuries. Dach is one of the few that keeps getting better. He was alright at the begining of the season, coming back from a long time injury, but he's now playing at a 50 points pace at 22 years old on a bottom team. It's excellent. You can see his confidence in his plays. He even got into a fight. The kid is growing much faster than anyone anticipated. Also, Sharp is a winger that started producing at 25 by playing with Kane and Toews. Dach plays center with Dadonov and Hoffman, just a small difference.
@@0725038 Unknowingly, you just opened a whole can of worms with me regarding Sharp, lol. As great as he was on the wing, he was misused in Chicago quite a bit and was a big reason I couldn't stand Quenneville after a while (although there are much more significant reasons I despise that enabler now). In 2009-10, Sharp was primarily viewed as a center. You can verify this via Hockeyviz. He did play LW on occasion, but when it came down to it, he was the second line center behind Toews. Making sure I wasn't making it up, I spot checked a few games in the Final against Philly, and yeah, he was a center. So he wasn't necessarily playing exclusive with Kane & Toews. (Although yes, he did see quite a bit with Kane) So it drove me nuts for the rest of his career when Quenneville never played him at center ever again after 2010. The 2011 & 2012 seasons, the Hawks were hurting really badly at the #2C spot. In 2011 they tried to pigeon hole Bolland there (which then just leaves a giant hole on the checking line.) Frolik & Kopecky were also tried there. It was a train wreck that was completely avoidable because they already had a proven, Cup Winning Second Line Center on the team, and the coach refused to use him there. In 2012, I kid you not, Quenneville tried putting Kane in at center to make up for the total lack of a second line center, despite still have a well-proven Patrick Sharp on the team. They also tried that year: Kruger, Shaw & Bolland (again.) Those two years were pretty dismal as a result. Anyway, yeah, I don't mean to diminish Dach's value solely based on his points. But if the conversation is about if Chicago is going to 'regret' this trade, points is the thing that really makes a team wince at its bad decisions. Could Dach end up really taking off his career and being a sure-fire 2C? Sure. I just think its way too early to say this is a trade Chicago would most definitely want back. Oh, and one last note on Sharp, his 2006-07 totals don't look that impressive: 20 goals, 15 assists. But when Sharp first came to CHI from Philly, he wasn't thought of as much of a player (lacked the first round pick pedigree), spending much of his time on the bottom two lines. But by the end of the season, he worked his way up the line-up and put in 13 goals in the final 27 games of the year (near 40 goal pace) without Kane or Toews. That streak is what helped get him into position the following year for his 36 goal breakout season.
@@IRanOutOfPhrases I agree with everything you say, but take a look at 2006-2007. That club looked A LOT like the habs right now. Weak offense with old players and a very talented young blue line. Sharp did alright, but he didnt have any help either. Dach is in the same situation, but he's doing much better offensively and defensively while being 2 years younger. The way he's going right now, if you can give him two players that are as talented as him, I expect him to be better than Sharp.
@@0725038 Definitely true that the Habs now are very comparable to that rendition of the Hawks (I think their standings points percentage is nearly identical, lol) Although I don't know if I'd say Dach is doing just as well offensively as 2007 Sharp. Because like I was saying, Sharp came onto the team and was being wasted on the bottom two lines, including for a large chunk of the 2006-07 season. Dach on the other hand has been on line 1 from the moment he landed in Montreal, getting to play with Suzuki & Caulfield for roughly 40 games this year. That's a significant leg-up on what Sharp was given. Dach is already behind Sharp's 20 goal pace that season. So yeah, he's got Sharp well beat in assists, but Dach also wasn't relying on the likes of Arkhipov & Salmelainen to put in goals for him for half a season, haha I'd still need to see Dach really ratchet things up another level before Chicago can start looking really dumb on this one. As you said though, he's only 21, so its quite possible we've not seen his best yet. I think one other thing to keep in perspective though is I think in the end, it probably still was going to be the right move to trade him when they did. His first three years were all quite rough, with the most recent being particularly brutal. He was even put in a position to succeed last year too, with lots of time on the top two lines with Kane, Debrincat, and on occassion a splash of Toews. It just didn't work. Would THIS year have gone any better for him? Given the state of the Hawks this year, I think his downward trend very well would have continued. Even Kane is having a down year this season. You need to get what value you can in a trade before its too late. Perhaps they can be faulted for not having enough patience, we'll see over time. But sometimes you need to hit the reset button and maximize the amount of draft picks you have to give yourself as many chances as possible to get lucky. And unlike Philly with Sharp, they at least gave him a fair chance.
As a hawks fan we all knew just how good dach could be but also that management wasn't focused on developing him properly while Kane and toews were still on the team and he needed a change
dach had a big problem in chicago deferring and not shooting the puck when he had a good chance, if he can fix that part of his game he can be great with the canadiens
I feel this move was to bolster the tank for the Chicago Blackhawks. With Dach I'm sure they would be closer to a Wild card spot with maybe 5 more wins. This was Strategy with like you said a lateral move with drafted Nazar.
David Krejci has one of the highest hockey IQs in the league + exceptional vision, you cant learn those. More like Charlie Coyle perhaps, with about the same ceiling.
FYI Nazar did not play most of this season, he had hip surgery in October. We hope for the best for the kid but you know... I like Habs position much more let's say !
I'll say this though, being a third overall pick is a lot of pressure... until you change team. Dach in Montreal doesn't have to play like the third best player of his class like he did in Chicago, because the Habs didn't give that much for him. As long as that 13th overall pick doesn't turn into a superstar, Habs fans and media will be more than happy if he's just a solid top 6 player. Some players thrive under pressure, but Dach seems to have a lot more fun with the lower expectations he has in Montreal, which ironically makes him actually better
So I guess the Blackhawks are the stupidest team in the NHL when you could rebuild around Debrincat Reichel Dach and way more draft picks you’ll get. That’s really smart Chicago.
After this season Jets might as well trade Dubois to Montreal for either Anderson,Dach,Hutson pick Dubois is having over point a game this year doing really amazing but still only wants Montreal.
Do we know how many good centremen the Hawks have in waiting? What was the chemistry in the room with this kid? What was Dach asking for through his agent? Was Dach threatening to not play for Chicago? Is there a clause which kicks in that would have cost $ to Chicago? What were the coaching assessments on Dach? A 13th pick isn't exactly dog-food on a roster, what makes you think the Hawks don't realise what they're giving and for what they're getting? Easy to 2nd guess...
Hawks fan here, really was a head scratcher seeing him traded away for a mid-first and a second. Glad to see he’s doing well, he was lacking a lot of confidence playing for the hawks. I think Davidson dropped the ball here personally..🤷♂️
Predicting success in the NHL has to keep scouts up all nights. We see so many “come out of nowhere “ and first rounders who tank..that is what makes hockey the best sport
Good video but just [TOO DISRESPECTFUL] towards Chicago as [YOU CAN TONE IT DOWN SOME MAN]. The Habs got a [WIN] in the deal as it seems so move on a [BE PLEASED] with that but [RESPECT] the team that gave the deal to the Canadians?
As a hawks fan the habs have one of the best teams in the long run, y’all have one of the youngest rosters in the league, its a matter of time thats all
I think he is a complementary piece that can do well with the right players and not consistently. You'll see flashes, perhaps even good seasons, but he won't be a driver.
To be fair, the change of scene could have been what he needed to find his game again, there's no guarantee that Kirby would be this good if he had have stayed.
It wasnt chicago giving up on dach chicago was getting rid of anyone that could prevent them from tanking lol. It was obvious they were going to tank for bedard
Reminder: Chicago is the same organization that traded Phillip Danault and a 2nd for Thomas Fleischman and Dale Weise to Montreal. It seems like Chicago has this unending desire to trade young centres that they’ve given up on entirely to Montreal for questionable returns
At no point did I understand why the Blackhawks traded Dach. 21 years old is not usually the guys a rebuilding team trades away. You trade away guys like Kane or Toews, who are old and near the end of their career, but could still be of value to teams in contention. I guess the team had given up on him. Maybe he wasn't getting along with the coaches. Maybe he silently requested a trade. Maybe the GM had just finished an abnormally large joint when he made the deal. Idk. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Kyle Davidson is a bad joke of a GM, as bad as the Dach deal was it not an isolated mistake.. Got Rid of - to For 1. DeBrincat - Ottawa One 1st rd 22 Pick (7th overall K. Korchinski) One 2nd rd 22 Pick (39th overall P. Ludwinski), & one 3rd or 4th rd Pick in 2024 TWENTY FOUR 2. Dach - Montreal One 1st rd 22 Pick (13th overall F. Nazar), & One 3rd rd 22 Pick (66th overall Gavin Hayes) 3. Strome - Washington Nothing 4. Kubalik - Detroit Nothing 5. De Haan - Carolina Nothing 6. Gustafsson - Washington Nothing 7. Lankinen - Nashville Nothing Even the Hagel deal at last years Trade Deadline was a mistake, then and now. I like Korchinski as a 7th overall Pick, but a 7th, 39th & a 3rd or 4th round Pick is Poor return for a Guy that just turned 25 who already has TWO 40+ Goal Seasons, and 32 Goals in 52 Games the Covid shortened Season. As for the Dach Trade I am NOT as thrilled on Nazar the 13th overall Pick in that horrible deal, thinking the Hawks gave up Dach for nothing.
So sad when Chicago traded him. Glad he's putting up numbers, from the moment he made that crazy dangle against the ducks I knew he was gonna be a stud
I've worked with Coach St. Louis and can tell you that nobody works harder and he will make sure they sweat the good sweat . But he's Only the Coach . Management must make up its mind as to what it wants LES CANADIENS to be !!
Had the Hawks not picked Dach the Kings wouldn’t have picked Turcotte and the Kings would have drafted Stutzle instead of Byfield in 2019. Thanks Hawks.
Anyone can go back to what I said this past summer and see that I believed Dach was not given a chance in Chicago. But I didn't blame Chicago. They had Toews and Strome playing Center already. Toews was making over $10M and was a Stanley cup champion. So he was going to play on the top 2 lines. Then you had Strome who was also a top 3 pick, was the same size and had 2 years of experience more than Dach. So Dach ended up playing on the 3rd or 4th line. Chicago put all their $$$ in their top 2 lines. The 3rd and 4th line wingers were all plugs or grinders. What can you expect from Dach. Hey, 18 year old rookie, we'll put you with Andrew Shaw and Zack Smith.. Now go up there get 50 points. Like that was ever going to pan out. I just don't understand why Chicago let him go AFTER they decided on a rebuild. I guess they didn't see a potential that they were happy with. Oh well. Their loss. A lot of people were upset to see Romanov go. Me too. But you can't compare those 2 players. The Habs needed to score goals and they got a player who has the potential to be a real star. And maybe thought the Habs traded a good solid defensemen for a bust but Dach is proving these fans wrong.
Honestly I don’t feel bad at all for the Blackhawks because if they can give up on a player that fast then they shouldn’t have the right to have a player like Dach
Dach with more skill than Krejci? Lol yeah, no. That's just foolish. Only reason Krejci gets looked over as much as he does is because he plays under Bergeron.
50-YEAR-OLD Jagr Is STILL Playing LMAO: ruclips.net/video/m9GJqZ4ydWU/видео.html
Johnny i love ur videos keep them up! :)
Ure incredibly underrated
Jagr is an incredible specimen. Pretty soon, he'll have to strap skates onto a pair of canes.
@@zxshark9119 cheers bro thank you so much!
he was made in a lab
Not giving up on Dach is exactly why we have to be patient with Slaf
Agreed
Meh Dach Is a good player but not a super start perfect third liner that can play second line
@@neilsunstrum933 yea for now but I can see him getting better
Slafkovský has had his moments this season and he's still very young but my main concern with him is that it's almost as if Slafkovský is how you say Lindros in Slovak because he's gotta keep his head up and stop putting himself in a vulnerable position to get hit.
@@neilsunstrum933 holy shit bro we don’t watch the same game if you think dach is a third liner lol
Johnny remembering his roots 🥲 Missed the Habs videos, but I've been loving the league-wide stuff!! Keep it up man
Thanks for sticking with me bro, appreciate you alex
Toujours cool d'entendre des petits bouts de français par ci par là. Super bon contenu!
Merci Samuel!
5 goals in 7 games for Harvey-Pinard. Him and Dach are fun to watch right now. I don't care that the team is tanking. They have really good prospects for the first time in many years!
UN GARS DE CHEZ NOUS
@@JonathanHawkey Ouai! Ça fait du bien. Un prospect québécois qui n'est pas un flop 😅
Prospects not nhl players they need ahl time
@@failcomp9915 Harvey-Pinard is 24 years old and he played three seasons in the AHL?
Ylonen should take some notes from RHP
My boy Johnny Hawkey was spot on from day one of the trade. I remember him being the first one to claim without a doubt that the habs are laughing their way to bank with this trade the morning after draft day. Was spot on with Monahan too.
Harvey Pinard is Gally reincarnated
he is such a beast
I feel Gally is done. Constant injuries.
@@gastondeveaux3783 I personnally wouldn't say he's done... but his role is obviously changing, he can't be the guy doing all the physical work anymore.
Obviously, since it's mainly the reason why he's been so good in the past, he might never be of use again on the first 2 lines.
However, I think he can be of great help on a 3rd or 4th line. Unfortunately, with such a role, there's no way we can trade him before his (bad) contract ends. Not that big of a deal considering our biggest contracts will be Nick Suzuki and Caufield at around 7-8m each for the remaining of Gally's.
Passing the torch
@@0racle999 hopefully by the time the team competes, Gally can have the kind of role that Byron had in the 2021 playoffs. Byron was seen as this anchor contract all year, but in the playoffs he was an absolute beast and I'm glad the Habs had him.
lol i played against dach when we were 13-14. i was a goalie and i remember my goalie parter saying to me “the kids goin to the chel😳😳” before we played him, and something along the lines of we’re going to get lit up, and that we did !
my team also went 0-32-0 that year.. wasn’t the best time
You have to lose to win? Hope it helps.
@@markhammar3977 i will keep that in mind if I ever go winless again!
Dude your team sucks🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tom..193 ohhhh, no way?
i think dach has always had first line elite potential. hes got the size the shot the skill, the playmaking, its hard to even put him up against someone bc he has the size with all the skill
Second line at best
Frank Nazar and Kevin Korschinsky are really good prospects, I think alot of people are phoning the trade in as a win already when the stuff that was aquired hasn't even played.
Unless those 3 players never step on the ice, I think we should hold off on calling winners but still be happy with what both got.
Yeah this was a huge head scratcher from Chicago. He had a solid rookie year and showed flashes of greatness. They gave up too soon on him, probably why they're as bad as they are right now
Dach was terrible last season for the Hawks. He was regressing and needed a change of scenery which he’s getting in Montreal right now, also Kent Hughes overpaid for Dach at last years draft which made it an easy trade for Chicago to make.
Yeah, we knew he was good which is why we gave him up because we’re *rebuilding*
He gave me some Corey Perry vibes when he first arrived in Montreal for how he works the boards and plays around the net. Also, the fact he was playing Right Wing and has an edge to him. I think there is some Sheiffele now that he is shooting more and at Centre.
I must say.. that 2019 draft.. what a year .. first round filled with studs.
Chicago's thought process: trading Dach & Debrincat for Nazar & Bedard/Fantili. Doesn't seem so bad when looked at that way.
Harvey-Pinard is the best Quebecor the Habs have had in years! Full time NHLer in my books!
And this is why you're a casual fan
@@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004 I’m actually a huge fan. Name me a Montreal born player that’s been this good in the last 10 years that the Habs have drafted? If you want to exclude drafting and included traded for then Danault is the only answer.
@Young Guns Podcast I'm from Little burgundy 10min walk to the bell center ain't about where you from its the knowledge of the game. Don't hype up players who haven't made any statement in the league yet
@Young Guns Podcast traded for ? DROUIN... BY FAR. So yeah you sure you're a fan or just a simple male groupie
@@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004 So we cannot celebrate the great story of Montreal born Habs player Harvey-Pinard who was drafted in the 7th round and is having a major impact with the team at 24 years old and playing first line minutes with Suzuki?
Never knew him personally, but had friends who played with Dach in Fort Sask AAA. They made him sound like a legend lol. Glad to see he's having success in the NHL though
Harvey-Pinard on the first line was a beauty to watch tonight.
hey... let's not disrespect the fireplace channel
lol
Suzuki’s also playing injured and has Anderson and Pitlick as his line mates. I think he’ll be better than Dach long term but I really like the idea of a Dach-Suzuki-Caufield line.
If Slav develops well, the best would be Caufield-Suzuki-Slav, and Dach centering the second line (with Anderson Drouin or Hoffman or anyone else). With Dvorak as third center, it looks good. Now we need more wingers
@@dgib1694 I would be shocked if Dach stays centre much longer after this draft because it is loaded with centres. So in 2-3 years he could be a second line winger and a great one at that.
At this rate Anderson's way better than Suzuki bud
Suzukis a boarderline bust
@@tom..193 🙄
Did everyone forget he's a top 5 pick and still in his early 20's... like what?
Dach was not a bust his whole time in Chicago. His rookie season (18-19 yo) he played 17 minutes per game in the playoffs and scored 6 points in 9 games with a +3.
Unfortunately he got injured the following season preparing for the World Junior Championship, because the NHL was not playing so he was loaned.
The Hawks never gave him a defined role when he came back, but honestly I saw enough skill in him in the few games I saw him play over three years that I was stoked when we traded for him.
Well, considering we traded DeBrincat I can tell you Hawks fans don’t really care about trading Dach. Dach sucked in Chicago. Head scratcher on paper, but I honestly don’t think he has this type of season with Chicago. It just wasn’t working.
Spot on man! Never saw it that way but it's true that Chicago seem to step back by a big margin with that trade. I hope Kent Hughes and Geoff Gorton will be able to pull off more tricks like that in near future
It’s called addition by subtraction, Chicago will say “Kirby who?” if they get Bedard. Not to mention if Nazar pans out.
Disagree. You realize Chicago got the 13th overall pick in the draft from dach. We can’t grade this trade until 3-4 years from now.
@@BabyDean "if they get Bedard", ''if Nazar pan out'' I don't think this is a good way to build a team with some ''if'' but hey, I might be wrong too
@@BattlefrontNow agree, but to me they had already a good player with good potential, now they just start back from 3-4 years. I'm not saying Nazar won't be good, I'm just saying that this is a big step back. Maybe Dach wasn't meant to be developped by Chicago, I really dunno, but what tell us that Nazar is meant to be developped by them then?
Merci pour tes vidéo , I really like watching all of them!
Look Dach most likely wouldn't what he is if he was in Chicago still. Kirby needed a change of scenery. The Hawks took a fast and high ceiling forward in Frank Nazar. Am I glad to see Kirby doing well yes because last season I said Dach will have his break out next season which ment this season. Therefore I will still say Dach wasn't working in Chicago and he likely still wouldn't be working if he was still here. I want nothing but the best for Dach to succeed but I'm looking real forward for the future with Frank Nazar.
Chicago clearly rushed him in the league. He wasn't ready to play in the NHL at 18 or 19 years old. With the habs, you are starting to see the player the Hawks drafted 3rd overall. The package was there, he just needed an environment that would allow him to put it all together and Montreal offered him exactly that! The kid not only developed his offensive skills, he also dug in and got that dog (chien) out of him. He's a menace on the ice now. His physical play is scary!! The fact that Kent Hughes got him for the 13th overall pick is unbelievable. He's a stud!
Great video btw!
Bro I am so glad you turned a new Leaf and stopped doing the click bait and this has been probably your best stuff that I’ve watched in years over the last bit. good job brother.
Ça m'a surpris quand tu as dit LE CHIEN ! :D
Good to see, I think that wrist injury he had couple years back had something to do with his production in Chicago. They just kinda threw him back in there after his surgery and expect him to be 100%.
its always nice to heard some french word , continue with your video buddy💪🏽
As a couch GM, I was quite disappointed in Davidson trading him away. Same with Debringcat. Could you imagine Dach, Debringcat, and, Bedard on a line? That would be wild. haha
Im loving all of these young guys making the habs team.
I know St.Louie isnt the best in terms of coaching, but I do believe that anyone under his umbrella will take off in their carreer and find their niche, their place.
As long as Molson gives St.Louie time, and has faith in this new team, the habs will be one of the top teams in the league in the next 2-3 years. Everyone just needs to get settled into this new era and things will start taking off.
Mark my words.
do miss the habs, but im excited for next season habs, especially after the draft, cant wait, huge W, great vid like always bro
1 top 10 pick and another potential top 12…I’m excited and we haven’t even made trades yet !
@@m4t67u FRRRR, IT'S GONNA GET BETTER AND BETTER
@@AKAKATTACK_YT HYPEDDD
Can you make a sens video next! Would love to here your opinion on them.
Loving Dach... guy is skilled. St. Louis magic.
His month or so with Goal and Suze really helped his confidence! Let's hope he can be a 2-3 with Beck there too!
I honestly think Chicago drafted him based on stats and outside analytical consensus, as opposed to team fit, and held him to that expectation.
I watched Kirby play A ton his draft year in Sask. While he was never really that fast, flashy game-breaker you’d typically expect from a top 3 prospect, he had poise & NHL calibre awareness. Had he been taken later by a team who was patient enough to let him develop his pro game and fill out his 6’3” frame, he’d have never been considers a bust.
Glad he’s doing well in MTL.
Anderson had a pretty good game, he got 2 assists, which we’ve been begging for this entire season. Suzuki seems like he’s injured so I definitely think they should take them out if it’s threatening at all. But he had a very good game today. Also Dach is one point behind Patrick Kane and two behind Max Domi.
Tu mérite plus d’abonné Bonne Video bro 🔥
You're only 22. Nice bro... you know ur stuff and ur a good broadcaster.
I don't know if Johny Hawkey speaks french but the accent (or lack of) was on point ;) Dach looks great so far. Lot of potential. Liked Romanov but i don't see how this trade could end up being bad for Montreal.
Dach and Slaf are going to have stellar careers (if they keep healthy). Two big guys with speed and skills, they are necessary to the Habs future. They may not be generational but looking at what Dach is doing and Slaf's potential to do the same, I get the feeling we will be on board for great things to come. Slaf is 18… guys, 18! He's fresh out of high school for God's sake. We got to be patient. Some pretty nice talent is coming such as Hudson, Mailloux, Roy, Kidney, Farrel, etc Having a Connor McDavid is nice but having a solid defence and real talent spread out over all the trios is to me more efficient. The other team can never lower their gard and at some point during the game they make a mistake, then a penalty, and then things start to go haywire.
I don't know if I would by hyping Dach up quite this much. So far, he seems like a good supporting piece, but not someone you consider as part of the core. That's not really the type of player a team is going to feel regret for trading. Using the Blackhawks for another example: I don't think Dach is on the verge of being what Patrick Sharp was for them via the Philly trade way back.
32 points at this point of the season is nice, but its not "omg" territory by a long shot yet. It does seem like his underlying numbers are decent though.
You have to look at more than the points. The habs are a mess this season. There's no stability because there's a lack of talent, passion or players due to injuries. Dach is one of the few that keeps getting better. He was alright at the begining of the season, coming back from a long time injury, but he's now playing at a 50 points pace at 22 years old on a bottom team. It's excellent. You can see his confidence in his plays. He even got into a fight. The kid is growing much faster than anyone anticipated. Also, Sharp is a winger that started producing at 25 by playing with Kane and Toews. Dach plays center with Dadonov and Hoffman, just a small difference.
@@0725038 Unknowingly, you just opened a whole can of worms with me regarding Sharp, lol. As great as he was on the wing, he was misused in Chicago quite a bit and was a big reason I couldn't stand Quenneville after a while (although there are much more significant reasons I despise that enabler now). In 2009-10, Sharp was primarily viewed as a center. You can verify this via Hockeyviz. He did play LW on occasion, but when it came down to it, he was the second line center behind Toews. Making sure I wasn't making it up, I spot checked a few games in the Final against Philly, and yeah, he was a center. So he wasn't necessarily playing exclusive with Kane & Toews. (Although yes, he did see quite a bit with Kane) So it drove me nuts for the rest of his career when Quenneville never played him at center ever again after 2010. The 2011 & 2012 seasons, the Hawks were hurting really badly at the #2C spot. In 2011 they tried to pigeon hole Bolland there (which then just leaves a giant hole on the checking line.) Frolik & Kopecky were also tried there. It was a train wreck that was completely avoidable because they already had a proven, Cup Winning Second Line Center on the team, and the coach refused to use him there. In 2012, I kid you not, Quenneville tried putting Kane in at center to make up for the total lack of a second line center, despite still have a well-proven Patrick Sharp on the team. They also tried that year: Kruger, Shaw & Bolland (again.) Those two years were pretty dismal as a result.
Anyway, yeah, I don't mean to diminish Dach's value solely based on his points. But if the conversation is about if Chicago is going to 'regret' this trade, points is the thing that really makes a team wince at its bad decisions. Could Dach end up really taking off his career and being a sure-fire 2C? Sure. I just think its way too early to say this is a trade Chicago would most definitely want back.
Oh, and one last note on Sharp, his 2006-07 totals don't look that impressive: 20 goals, 15 assists. But when Sharp first came to CHI from Philly, he wasn't thought of as much of a player (lacked the first round pick pedigree), spending much of his time on the bottom two lines. But by the end of the season, he worked his way up the line-up and put in 13 goals in the final 27 games of the year (near 40 goal pace) without Kane or Toews. That streak is what helped get him into position the following year for his 36 goal breakout season.
@@IRanOutOfPhrases I agree with everything you say, but take a look at 2006-2007. That club looked A LOT like the habs right now. Weak offense with old players and a very talented young blue line. Sharp did alright, but he didnt have any help either. Dach is in the same situation, but he's doing much better offensively and defensively while being 2 years younger. The way he's going right now, if you can give him two players that are as talented as him, I expect him to be better than Sharp.
@@0725038 Definitely true that the Habs now are very comparable to that rendition of the Hawks (I think their standings points percentage is nearly identical, lol) Although I don't know if I'd say Dach is doing just as well offensively as 2007 Sharp. Because like I was saying, Sharp came onto the team and was being wasted on the bottom two lines, including for a large chunk of the 2006-07 season. Dach on the other hand has been on line 1 from the moment he landed in Montreal, getting to play with Suzuki & Caulfield for roughly 40 games this year. That's a significant leg-up on what Sharp was given. Dach is already behind Sharp's 20 goal pace that season. So yeah, he's got Sharp well beat in assists, but Dach also wasn't relying on the likes of Arkhipov & Salmelainen to put in goals for him for half a season, haha
I'd still need to see Dach really ratchet things up another level before Chicago can start looking really dumb on this one. As you said though, he's only 21, so its quite possible we've not seen his best yet.
I think one other thing to keep in perspective though is I think in the end, it probably still was going to be the right move to trade him when they did. His first three years were all quite rough, with the most recent being particularly brutal. He was even put in a position to succeed last year too, with lots of time on the top two lines with Kane, Debrincat, and on occassion a splash of Toews. It just didn't work. Would THIS year have gone any better for him? Given the state of the Hawks this year, I think his downward trend very well would have continued. Even Kane is having a down year this season. You need to get what value you can in a trade before its too late. Perhaps they can be faulted for not having enough patience, we'll see over time. But sometimes you need to hit the reset button and maximize the amount of draft picks you have to give yourself as many chances as possible to get lucky. And unlike Philly with Sharp, they at least gave him a fair chance.
As a hawks fan we all knew just how good dach could be but also that management wasn't focused on developing him properly while Kane and toews were still on the team and he needed a change
Their loss, Kane and towes are fossils now🤣
dach had a big problem in chicago deferring and not shooting the puck when he had a good chance, if he can fix that part of his game he can be great with the canadiens
I feel this move was to bolster the tank for the Chicago Blackhawks. With Dach I'm sure they would be closer to a Wild card spot with maybe 5 more wins. This was Strategy with like you said a lateral move with drafted Nazar.
David Krejci has one of the highest hockey IQs in the league + exceptional vision, you cant learn those. More like Charlie Coyle perhaps, with about the same ceiling.
FYI Nazar did not play most of this season, he had hip surgery in October. We hope for the best for the kid but you know... I like Habs position much more let's say !
I'll say this though, being a third overall pick is a lot of pressure... until you change team. Dach in Montreal doesn't have to play like the third best player of his class like he did in Chicago, because the Habs didn't give that much for him. As long as that 13th overall pick doesn't turn into a superstar, Habs fans and media will be more than happy if he's just a solid top 6 player. Some players thrive under pressure, but Dach seems to have a lot more fun with the lower expectations he has in Montreal, which ironically makes him actually better
So I guess the Blackhawks are the stupidest team in the NHL when you could rebuild around Debrincat Reichel Dach and way more draft picks you’ll get. That’s really smart Chicago.
Keep up the good content Johnny!
cheers kevin!
After this season Jets might as well trade Dubois to Montreal for either Anderson,Dach,Hutson pick
Dubois is having over point a game this year doing really amazing but still only wants Montreal.
Kirrrr byyyyyyy Dachhhhhhhhh 🙅♂🙆♂
Do we know how many good centremen the Hawks have in waiting? What was the chemistry in the room with this kid? What was Dach asking for through his agent? Was Dach threatening to not play for Chicago? Is there a clause which kicks in that would have cost $ to Chicago? What were the coaching assessments on Dach? A 13th pick isn't exactly dog-food on a roster, what makes you think the Hawks don't realise what they're giving and for what they're getting? Easy to 2nd guess...
Hawks fan here, really was a head scratcher seeing him traded away for a mid-first and a second. Glad to see he’s doing well, he was lacking a lot of confidence playing for the hawks. I think Davidson dropped the ball here personally..🤷♂️
Pinard ain't going back to Laval. He earned his full time spot.
Predicting success in the NHL has to keep scouts up all nights. We see so many “come out of nowhere “ and first rounders who tank..that is what makes hockey the best sport
where is the intro. I am here for the intro.
Good video but just [TOO DISRESPECTFUL] towards Chicago as [YOU CAN TONE IT DOWN SOME MAN]. The Habs got a [WIN] in the deal as it seems so move on a [BE PLEASED] with that but [RESPECT] the team that gave the deal to the Canadians?
As a hawks fan the habs have one of the best teams in the long run, y’all have one of the youngest rosters in the league, its a matter of time thats all
I think Suzuki is playing injured though. Minor one but I think he's got something.
As a Blues fan, giving up on a very young, tall, skilled center too early can be a mistake! (Hi, Tage)
I think he is a complementary piece that can do well with the right players and not consistently.
You'll see flashes, perhaps even good seasons, but he won't be a driver.
If Chicago doesn’t get bedard, only then will they regret trading dach.
Harvey-Pinard is great considering he’s a 7th round draft pick.
To be fair, the change of scene could have been what he needed to find his game again, there's no guarantee that Kirby would be this good if he had have stayed.
Love it when u speak québécois hahahah
It wasnt chicago giving up on dach chicago was getting rid of anyone that could prevent them from tanking lol. It was obvious they were going to tank for bedard
Can you do better descriptions? Ech does them :P
I feel like they have no eager to win, you can see it in the game, the lack of pace and energy put in is really affecting the end result.
Reminder: Chicago is the same organization that traded Phillip Danault and a 2nd for Thomas Fleischman and Dale Weise to Montreal.
It seems like Chicago has this unending desire to trade young centres that they’ve given up on entirely to Montreal for questionable returns
What a nice win
The Habs had their share of bad trades too. Like Sergachev for Drouin or McDonagh for Gomez.
This is such an underrating of Frank Nazar
10/10 French accent
Ik it came out of nowhere
At no point did I understand why the Blackhawks traded Dach. 21 years old is not usually the guys a rebuilding team trades away. You trade away guys like Kane or Toews, who are old and near the end of their career, but could still be of value to teams in contention. I guess the team had given up on him. Maybe he wasn't getting along with the coaches. Maybe he silently requested a trade. Maybe the GM had just finished an abnormally large joint when he made the deal. Idk. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Kyle Davidson is a bad joke of a GM, as bad as the Dach deal was it not an isolated mistake..
Got Rid of - to For
1. DeBrincat - Ottawa One 1st rd 22 Pick (7th overall K. Korchinski) One 2nd rd 22 Pick (39th overall P. Ludwinski), & one 3rd or 4th rd Pick in 2024 TWENTY FOUR
2. Dach - Montreal One 1st rd 22 Pick (13th overall F. Nazar), & One 3rd rd 22 Pick (66th overall Gavin Hayes)
3. Strome - Washington Nothing
4. Kubalik - Detroit Nothing
5. De Haan - Carolina Nothing
6. Gustafsson - Washington Nothing
7. Lankinen - Nashville Nothing
Even the Hagel deal at last years Trade Deadline was a mistake, then and now.
I like Korchinski as a 7th overall Pick, but a 7th, 39th & a 3rd or 4th round Pick is Poor return for a Guy that just turned 25 who already has TWO 40+ Goal Seasons, and 32 Goals in 52 Games the Covid shortened Season. As for the Dach Trade I am NOT as thrilled on Nazar the 13th overall Pick in that horrible deal, thinking the Hawks gave up Dach for nothing.
Even worse is that he's signed for $3.36 until 25-26
So sad when Chicago traded him. Glad he's putting up numbers, from the moment he made that crazy dangle against the ducks I knew he was gonna be a stud
How many of those dangles led to goals for him or his teammates?
@@BabyDean ye I know, glad he's finally putting up numbers though
I've worked with Coach St. Louis and can tell you that nobody works harder and he will make sure they sweat the good sweat .
But he's Only the Coach . Management must make up its mind as to what it wants LES CANADIENS to be !!
Had the Hawks not picked Dach the Kings wouldn’t have picked Turcotte and the Kings would have drafted Stutzle instead of Byfield in 2019. Thanks Hawks.
The team is not boring to watch.
Go Habs go tank hard for Bedard
Bedard in mtl would be dope
@@JonathanHawkey no it wouldn't, take that back right now
@@colinlata6224 nah he would be a fantastic hab
@@muffinknight8101 apologize for your statement right now
@@colinlata6224 no I don’t think I will
Reading your Description hurts my brain.
The hawks should’ve traded kane, towes, and debrincat instead of dach, hagel, and strome
Anyone can go back to what I said this past summer and see that I believed Dach was not given a chance in Chicago. But I didn't blame Chicago. They had Toews and Strome playing Center already. Toews was making over $10M and was a Stanley cup champion. So he was going to play on the top 2 lines. Then you had Strome who was also a top 3 pick, was the same size and had 2 years of experience more than Dach. So Dach ended up playing on the 3rd or 4th line. Chicago put all their $$$ in their top 2 lines. The 3rd and 4th line wingers were all plugs or grinders. What can you expect from Dach. Hey, 18 year old rookie, we'll put you with Andrew Shaw and Zack Smith.. Now go up there get 50 points. Like that was ever going to pan out. I just don't understand why Chicago let him go AFTER they decided on a rebuild. I guess they didn't see a potential that they were happy with. Oh well. Their loss.
A lot of people were upset to see Romanov go. Me too. But you can't compare those 2 players. The Habs needed to score goals and they got a player who has the potential to be a real star. And maybe thought the Habs traded a good solid defensemen for a bust but Dach is proving these fans wrong.
Kirby Dach will have his Tage Thompson moment in a couple years just wait
The most mind-boggling thing about him is that he's only 22
Ton anglais est impeccable bro 🙌
Ou c'est tu son français qui est impeccable. Je sais même pas si il est québécois
Let's talk about this deal when Frank Nazar is in the NHL.
Just a reminder that Cale Makar owns Kirby Dach js
Lmao the oilers have 4 guys already with 60 points and up lol 😆. Kirby who. Zach hyman is 100% way better. Go oil go!
Only two people can wear their hats on backwards, welders and back catchers
Honestly I don’t feel bad at all for the Blackhawks because if they can give up on a player that fast then they shouldn’t have the right to have a player like Dach
Dach was a 3OA, right? Yeah he's got a higher ceiling than Suzuki
77-Nice number
Imagine if dsch turns out to be as good as zibinijad when he was traded from ottawa
Dach with more skill than Krejci? Lol yeah, no. That's just foolish. Only reason Krejci gets looked over as much as he does is because he plays under Bergeron.
Harvey pinard 99 overall
"more boring than the fireplace channel" haha nice