Trying a Metalcore Classic for the FIRST TIME EVER!
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The Dragon was used more with KSE… not sure if it was mod’d but that might be one to also check out
If the amp isn’t for you… I have a great trade offer for you :) (value definitely slanted your way )
It's probably a Baxandall tone stack. For the nerds:
"A Baxandall tone stack is a simple high/low shelf EQ. Bastardized versions can be found in Ampeg, Orange, Tweed Fenders, Sunn amps and more. With the controls set to 5, the frequency response is essentially flat, as opposed to a std TMB tonestack, which has a mid-scoop and bass rolloff with the controls set the same. A Bax stack is capable of essentially a mid-hump, which a std stack is unable to accomplish at any setting."
I'm just here because metalcore was in the title. I did guess Framus because Adam D and Buz McGrath both used them on their respective bands' best albums.
As a devout user of the Framus Cobra, some info for watchers:
- definitely don't use the master at 3 oclock. Keep the channel at 12-1 oclock, and use the master as the master.
- the amp was designed for Greenbacks, so the midrange IS a little weird. But if you get it right on V30's it's quintessential metalcore
- definitely prefers downtuned guitars IMO
- the amp doesn't really have reliability issues, the issues are almost always a result of not having a load on the head. This head can blow real quick if the input on the cab is loose, and the Framus cabs did have kinda weak inputs. The heads are totally solid.
- some tone tips for that PWD tone with a standard V30 (I haven't used it with a Mesa cab): Crunch or Lead with Presence, Channel Volume, Treble at 1oclock, Gain at 12 oclock, mids at 2 oclock, bass at 11 oclock, effects loop at noon. Tube screamer with standard settings.
I have had mine for about 2 years now. I currently have to use IR load boxes because I don't have a way to mic a cab right now. I own about 4 load/ iR boxes and some analog cab sim boxes. I love it with a cab but I have to record silent right now. So I was hoping you could give me some tips on using IRs. Anything would help. it doesn't seem like many people own this amp or at least I have not run into anyone that does. I don't know if the Version matters, but I have a V2.
Agreed. Version 2 dragon user here and the FX mix stays at noon, channel volume at 12:30, and master to taste. Messed with it for a little bit and that wound up being the best for me with my setup.
Thank you for the advice. I will try that as soon as I get home. Appreciate.
It is hard to find somebody with this amp, when you are using very low volume, does gain channel sound like clean and gain channels mixed? Normally when I play amps on low volume and pick slightly, it just sounds more quiet, softer, but with Cobra I feel like there is always some distortion/fizz going on no matter whether I pick hard of soft. I think Warwick told me in theory it is possible in this design to have some bleed.
I think this amp has quite unique top end (quite open, I am surprised this one sounds so muffled), really cool clean channel and hug, thick and yet tight low end.
@alseick to me the channel volume at a lower setting seems to have a thinner sound to it I guess mainly because the power amp is not pushing too hard. But if you go a bit over 12 o clock it starts to get thicker. I started messing with the notch switch and using a Parametric eq to pull out and add frequency to that super scooped tone it gives you. I have found some use for it now. It's tricky. When adding one thing, something else goes away. I have learned the presence and deep synergies together. To pull out some of that fizz I will back off the presence and turn the deep up. Good luck. 👍
I own a cobra as well. This amp really shines in lower tunings. The low end is absolutely beefy as hell. I have a framus dragon cab and paired with the cobra it is a monster
Before watching: Framus Cobra
Edit: YES! Love that amp, especially the mid cut switch so you can do death metal scoops 💀
The following information is gathered from a combination of a single email I received from Framus customer service 10 years ago, and another piece of info from the Framus website that has since been deleted but thankfully - a PDF I happened to save at the time.
Dragon-1 (Production started in September 1998. Serial numbers ranged from F00010 all the way to F00559)
Dragon-2 / 2A (Since December 2000, Serial numbers F00560 - unknown number)
. New main switch and new stand-by switch . Change the anode voltage rectifier and power transformer, anode fuse
. rectifier for tube heating eliminated, new PCB layouts
. Sovtek tubes
(Dragon-2a
. Change of 24mm pots in 16 mm model)
Dragon-3 (Since May 2003, Serial number ranges unknown at this time)
. New optocouplers, new PCB layouts
Dragon-4
. EQ on board, potentiometers 16mm PCB, new PCB layouts
Dragon-5
. PA on board, potentiometers 16mm PCB vertically, new PCB layouts
Cobra-1 / 1A (Serial numbers from F02001 - F02110)
Cobra-1a
. Change of 24mm pots in 16 mm model
Cobra-2 (Serial numbers from F02111 - F02999
. New optocouplers, new PCB layouts
Cobra-5 (Serial numbers from F01347 - F02000, and amps with F03000 or higher)
. PA on board, new potentiometers 16mm PCB vertically, new PCB layouts
in regards to the other serial numbers (the ones found on the square white piece of paper) The first letter refers to the month the amp was made. A=January, B=February, C=March, D=April, E=May, F=June, G=July, H=August, J=September, K=October, L=November and M=December. The last 2 letters are the year it was made. ie: D-099376-03 was made in April 2003.
Used one of these in 2004 for a while. The cabinet was badass too. it was like 2 212s stuck together. Was pretty good without pedals
I've owned V2 and V5 of these beasts. Some tips.
1. Its the CHANNEL volume you want to crank to 3 o clock. Use the Master as a Master should be used.
2. The EQ is active so cut/boost applies
3. This amp is super picky with speakers. Plays the best with GB or CB type speakers. It can sound ok with V30 but it usually gets too harsh with most cabs loaded with them
That’s how my archon is! It sounds kind of nasally and boxy until you turn it lower than drop C and then it sounds huge!
So Kyle... I did some detective work. I'm not familiar with hearing a LETTER at the end of the serial number (I believe you said F0145A ??). I also doubt you pronounced an "8" like an "A" so I'm guessing you have amp F01454 and the 4 at the end looked like an A and you made a mistake? if this is true: I found pics of your amp online from before you bought it (the scratch in the tolex on the rear to the left of the midi port matches up with yours... don't ask me how I found this I just did a quick google and wound up finding what I believe is your amp very quickly.. not my intent but what ever.. If this is the case then the serial number on the square white paper should read B 23196 05 and you have a Version 5 Framus Cobra from 2005. If I'm way off please let me know and I'll help find you some answers. If the serial number was F01458 it's still a version 5.
For the record, the famous Adam D cobra that recorded all of those records we know and love was a version 2 and I will NOT be sharing the serial number ;)
-Blair Bondy
Ugh my old guitar player had one of these, such smooth sounding amps. Easily still one of the nicest sounding amps I've ever been in a room with.
yep blows mesa's out of the water and that is the real reason they are gone
I had one of these briefly for about 6 months. They did fade into obscurity but they were massively popular in the late 2000s, early 2010s, when KSE was using Framus amps, both Dragons and Cobras. These amps had a reputation for sounding fantastic for metal however they also had a reputation for technical issues. The build quality was nothing to write home about honestly. Not great, not bad. From memory, there were 3 versions. V1, V3 and V5. You'd think there were 5 but from everyone I spoke to there were just 3. The latest version having stuff such as external bias points, which was a big improvement since trying to bias the amp beforehand was supposedly a nightmare for techs.
My version was the newest one(bought around 2010, seller told me he bought it in 2004), tubes were pcb mounted instead of chassis mounted. Those are pretty much the only changes I know about. I've heard guys say the revisions sound radically different while I've heard others say they all sound like the Cobra despite tiny variances you'd expect from amp to amp in a production run. I was surprised by the complete lack of high end presence of your amp in this video though... it just sounds so low end dominant, very much giving off the blanket over the cab effect. I don't remember mine being that way. I remember it being tight as fuck with a really big low end, but I was always to get enough mids and treble to get it to sound present and not so dark.
Good point Kyle. I used to want one of these but I wasn't playing anymore at that time. And I completely forgot about it. Hell even when I decided to pick up guitar again and went shopping for my amp, I didn't even consider the framus. Just completely skipped my mind. Can't complain about my evh though. Still excited about that purchase over 2 years ago. Its a heavy hitter for sure. Okay you're about to start playing the amp. Time to stop commenting.
It’s a V5, per the external bias test points
I have had a v2 cobra for 2 years now. And I still bang my head on the wall with it. At times it sounds so good. But sometimes it sounds horrible. When I bought mine, someone put a mod into where it changed the gain structure and ran the bias pretty hot. I kept the mod in, and bypass it so if I didn't like the stock sound I could hook it back in. I love how it sounds with my cabs but struggling with running Irs with it. I dig pretty much the same tones you dial, so if you ever get that sounding how you like it please let me know what you did. Glad to see you finally got to own one. It's a hard road but a good one. The Notch seemed pretty useless until I got catalinbread tribute parametric overdrive. Using that to cut or boost Frequency has made it a viable Feature at least to me. Good luck. Great vid.
I totally missed that one. I guessed a Krank. Dunno if that was ever a classic, 😂
Framus Cobra? Ok, I guessed right. A former guitar player we use to be with had one. Definitely special amp.
You are right about the speakers. The cobra was designed around the greenback speaker and sounds best with it. I think a lot of people were not that much impressed with the amp when playing it with the not matching cab.
The Cobra has so much interaction between every control, that you can get some crazy shapes/tones out of it. The crunch channel always seems a little more straightforward, but on the lead channel I treat the bass/mids and treble/presence as a baxandall set (probably a better word). Pushing the channel volume up will darken the amp, as will effects running full on. I always felt like Cobra was a sibling to the rectifier with some of the goofiness. Try running the bass almost all the way up and the mids almost all the way down. On mine, it works similar to how the rectifier sounds with the treble all the way down and mids pushed up.
Framus Dragon or Cobra is my guess. Adam from KSE used both.
Adam used everything lol. The Framus most likely stayed in the studio due to reliability concerns.
@@higler. correct on Adam using everything Lmao.
@@higler. true. but in the context of what Kyle said, Adam was the one who made the Framus amps famous (I think it was a dragon on the end of heartache and after that hethe Cobra). All the other stuff he used was already popular.
Heard a lot about their reliability issues as well.
What are the main differences between the Cobra and Dragon??
And KSE??
I actually played one of these with the matching cab jamming with some guys I know. I had the same conclusion you did and ended up just running the quad cortex through the effects loop, completely bypassing the cobras pre amp.
That is a smooth sounding killer amp. Great demo, sounded tight AF. Never seen one of these in the real world, so kudos for tracking one down.
I know nothing about Metalcore... but the Cobra was what came to mind because i've never seen you play one and they're pretty rare. Good guess i guess
I saw Terrorizer in 2019 and Lee Harrison was using one of these. His tone was absolutely crushing. Sounded amazing. 🤘
Framus Cobra?
Edit: nice I guessed it, was thinking of killswitch engage and they're the only people I know who use it.
Ola did a couple of cool demos of this amp .I believe he switched out the original tubes in it and got it sounding even better. Appreciate the vid brother.
The Framus Cobra was definitely my dream amp. I just wanted to make an Adam D.-produced album. This is a great amp run-through, however, I would've loved to see a Drop C riff with EMGs.
These amps are unreliable af
Hey Kyle! First off just wanted to say that I love your channel and its concept. It’s a real privilege to get to see amps like this out in the wild and with no post processing on them. I wanted to offer a suggestion, especially since we both own slanted Mesa Recto 4x12s and seem to both be passionate about mid-2000s metalcore tones: try micing one of the top speakers in the cabs as opposed to the bottom ones. You actually get a tighter low end and a more filled out, upfront midrange. I’ve seen interviews with everyone from Colin Richardson to Nolly where they advise that micing one of the top speakers in a slant cab (especially the Recto cabs) is the way to go. Anyway, hope you hit the 20K mark soon and keep producing killer content!
Yes each speaker in a 4x12 sounds different all over the speaker. Some do not know.
I got mine in 04 ish when i was working at a pro guitar shop and it's been my go to ever since. To me it sounds best paired with the straight cobra cab. It sounds good with v30 but its next level with the green backs. I used to just have everything at noon and shred. Mine's an earlier one serial number records say it was built in 05/2004. I played newer ones and they had more gain but it didn't sound as clean as i thought mine did.
as you mention the fade into obscurity part of that was Warwick felt that the distributor was devaluing their product by being so aggressive with getting framus into the mainstream so they pulled back hard and that killed their momentum. I think that bit them in the end because ENGL took over and was everywhere immediately after that.
Have this amp and the cab. It is a beefy sounding amp for sure. Best used for the chug fests. I would recommend using the 3rd channel with the gain at 2 o’ clock and a boost pedal. It is a pain to dial in but that palm mute nastiness is worth it.
Framus Cobra - guessing at 3:02
YEP! I bought mine in 2005 and sold it in 2008 when I was broke in college. Regretted it ever since. Have fun!
Heard about these back in the day from Lamb of God. Used the Dragons at one point I believe! The Drop C riff tone sounded awesome, very apt! Loved this video
Man that sounds so good when you were playing the drop c riffs, seems to respond a lot better to the lower frequency tunings
Brahhhhh, This is the amp that Chris Storey uses in the All Shall Perish Albums..... The Cobra and Dragon Were crazy amps
I’ve been in the market for a new amp and always wanted this one back in like 2004. This video is enough to convince me to pull the trigger
I wish you all the best with this amp. I had one when one of the local bands I followed / was a fan of Killswitch Engage had them. I tried to love it, but I just ended up going to a mesa mark series
I bought one of these back in 2016 for about $1000. i could not EQ it to save my life. I’d have a great overall tone, but i couldn’t get rid of this sub frequency no matter what cab I used.
Can't believe I guessed right. Then again, I've been drooling over this amp ever since I learned KSE used one in the 2000s
Used the Dragon mostly. I believe they used the Cobra on one song because the Framus Dragon blew up. Adam talked about it in an interview
@@MrDarkSide111 good to know! I haven't seen that interview, and always heard it was a cobra. Thanks!
Guessed correctly based on metalcore amps I've not seen in Kyle's collection. Nice score.
Guessed right but I can't prove it. Think I used one on a demo once. Didn't know what I was using too back in 05.
I liked it in parts and didn't at others.
Not sure if you planned on doing this, but it would be interesting to see a follow up video once you've had more time with it.
I can't believe I'm getting to see a Framus Cobra demo! I wanted one so badly in the early 2000's after seeing Lamb of God with a massive shining wall of Framus! I don't think I've ever seen one in the wild, though. A bit off topic, but where do you get your fret wrap/ string dampener?
This is awesome. i am reliving the 20's. 1 Dude what my speakers are showing, you dialing the eq around it all sounds brutal without compare.
2 Framus COBRA blows mesa's completely out of the water.
Remember 'boxy' mids to a listener were never a 'bad thing' its girth! You get a lot of usable sound in a somewhat boxy mid setup. Of course you can still dial it all out, but i am would not. i am have never discovered why a contained boxy mid is so hated. There were some awful amps in the 90s and the boxy mids were complained even i complained, but not with an amp that can maintain all and conatin a boxy mid in it's sound, the bad boxy mid amps were poorly designed solid states that began the grape vine rumors of 'boxyness' it was too boxy and that is all it had. So that is that case closed.
Use WGS green beret and WGS dusty warring signature speakers X pattern in two 4x12's one tight mg cab one oversize mesa 3/4 back. Plug a twin stereo dual 32 band EQ rack in the FX loop. = Your unstoppable. ============
You could also try a marshall greenback cab, marshall's own amps sound heavier and better through it. Check the Ola comparison video total proof. He used all kinds of best mics also. beyer m190, sm58 or 57, room mics, etc.
I have a Cobra ( haven't looked to see what revision I have..but I will) and it definitely likes a Greenback VS V30. I didn't have as much issue dialing it in like I did with my Ubershall TJ but it does have a similar learning curve. Probably one of the tightest high gain amps I've ever owned for sure. It's weird because I was thinking not too long ago that you need to get one of these to demo and *POOF* here it is!! It's cool that you finally got one but if I'm to be honest....I think you will have this amp on the chopping block soon as a "non-keeper" ...but I could be wrong....but I don't think so! Lol Good luck with it Kyle and can't wait for your full dial-in on this beast!! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!
Framuses rule but they can be a little tough to dial in. I love my Dragon and many of my favorite albums have had either the dragon or the cobra. been waiting for this one for a long time!
That intro wasn't unsettling at all.
I can tell from the back of the amp in the thumbnail it must be a Framus Cobra or Dragon. My Cobra made me miserable but it sounds so good.
Tell me, is there an amp which ever sounded bad with Mesa OS? Cabinet is the real key. Great video as usual.
Bias it to 38ma or so. They came biased cold. New power tubes can also help as the stock tubes overall are just a bit weak.
Channel masters at 1-3 o’clock help open it up and reduce the fizz.
You know, I really had no idea about the Framus Cobra until I checked out STL Tones Amphub, and they have a Framus Cobra model on there. It's become one of my favorite options on there.
Still my dream amp,really happy that someone actually brought this back! This is exciting
I believe KSE played with it!???
I wish 5150s/rectifiers were still $500/$800..
Also, The Framus Cobras work/were designed for Greenback speakers.
Thx Kyle you reignited my gas for a cobra. I had forgotten about them. Hopefully I’ll be able to try one someday. Love it when you showcase high gain tight el34 based amps. Not enough of those imo
My guess was a 5150 Letter Block but I was way way off!
*EDIT*
That low tuning was crushing!!
I remember when lamb of god was endorsed by Framus that was the first time I had heard of them but at the time I didnt even know where to get one and I had a dual rectifier that I loved.
They used Framus cabs and guitars on stage during killadelphia. Well and the Ashes album had a cobra with SH10 full shred pickups amongst mesa's and other pickups also. The SH8 invader is on there also, as well as the original active metal livewire bridge pickup by seymour duncan pre blackouts era battery draining active. This was on Ashes of the Wake. Duncan custom, duncan invader, duncan distortion, duncan full shred, duncan everything, duncan JB, duncan metal live wires, multitracked guitars and amps. Completely brutal tone.
@@zAvAvAz Yeah that makes sense I remember it was right around the time ashes of the wake came out
My initial guess was a Mesa Dual Rectifier. HOWEVER, not shocked about the Framus Cobra. I remember when I first heard this amp it was because of my introduction to Killswitch Engage in 2004 for The End of Heartache. I know that amp was used on the album. I actually did get a chance to play one at a local Guitar Center and loved it.
hell yeah
I remember an interview with Mitch Harris from Napalm Death, he usted to have the Cobra back in Smear Campaign. That's the 1st Time I heard about ir. He also mentioned the Framus Dragon.
Willie Adler used 1 on the early L.O.G stuff they sound amazing 👏
I'd love to see you check out the Crate Excalibur. I'm about 90% sure that's what All Out War used on the For Those Who Were Crucified album--I know that's the amp Jimbo was using live and at band practice around that time, and he was definitely using it when they wrote the songs for that album. He had more than one before he left the first time, the second one after he briefly had a Mesa Boogie Mark series amp around the time they went to Europe to tour for Truth in the Age of Lies. Taras bought a Laney stack shortly before they recorded FTWWC but if I remember correctly Jesse told me they didn't use that amp on the record.
Hey Kyle, you got a scammer on here.
Interesting, I always thought that album sounded so thick and tight ❤
@@vanespedals1023 it does sound like that. I wasn't there when they tracked the album so I could be wrong, but that's what I remember being told at the time (but it was like 25 years ago). I do remember that amp sounding a lot heavier than most of the other Crate amps everyone was using at the time, but I saw a lot of Crates in our scene at the time. Kristian Kohle has a mixing contest right now with a song by Malamor from the same era, and he said they used a Crate on that recording as well.
Man, good effort with this amp, but it just sounds like it's got a blanket over it. It opened up at the very end, so whatever you were doing, you were on the right track. I'm sure you'll get it figured out in no time at all, though, Kyle. This is your FORTE!! Keep up the great videos, man!
By the way, I had never even HEARD of this amp, before. I think I'm just of a different generation. I found my used 5150 around '97-'98 (after running an Ultra 60 that I now miss dearly), and that's literally all I played until around 2010.
Dude this thing fucks... Honestly one of the best sounding tones I've heard from you personally (might just be my preference)
All I know about the Framus Cobra is that for the production of The End of Heartache, the guys in Killswitch Engage had to switch to a Framus Dragon to finish the morning because the Cobra died on them
cobra is a fave profile on my kemper
Easy to say I guessed it now, but seeing as that I’ve never seen one in your channel and they are hard to come by.. also had one briefly, the only one I’ve ever been in a room with. But I bought is used from GC and it didn’t function properly so back it went. I thought that one sounded great.. you dialed a decent tone in quick enough on 2 channels. Keep ‘em coming man!
The level control (pre-amp volume) seemed to fill it out but added a fair bit of boxiness
What am I missing? I keep hearing about the average used price on a Dual Rec being between $800/$900, but I don't EVER recall seeing one for any less than $1,100 ANYWHERE.
I got one with the matching 4x12 cab last year. Love it!
I got it right!! Rose Of Sharyn, not that is what he used in the studio but it kinda sounds like it. Scooped mids built in to the design it sounds like.
Always wanted one after seeing one of the Simple Plan music videos when i was a teenager these amps are incredible wish i could still afford one.
I was so close with the guess, I was thinking framus dragon because those are what Adam D used in Killswitch
Bogner Uber ultra is coming.
Ive got the Dragon. Love the tones from it. I initially wasn't a fan of the fizz from it. But I would back off the master volume and crank the volumes to 3:00 and adjust from there. Really tamed the fizz doing it that way. Just spend some time with it and get to know it.
I wanted a Framus SO BAD back in the day bc Unearth, but I met more than a couple of former owners that claimed they did not have the best build quality so they moved on. Go
I used to teach at a shop that sold Framus amps, the second Cobra we got in lit on fire after a total of about 3 hours worth of use.
Until then, I loved it.
It sounds sick, tight, percussive, but still thick with a really great high end on the lead channel.
KSE used one on the End of Heartache and it died during the recording of the album
@@LucasLeCompteMusic it was a dragon that died not a cobra but yea.
@@snapascrew ohhh ok cool! I heard it was the cobra.
I only played one once a long time ago when they were being sold new in the early 00s, I remember it being not too bad
Hi Kyle! Seasons Greets! Not gonna lie my inner self was saying it was aMarshall JCM900 SLX but pretty sure without searching you've been in the same room and had a run through on your channel already.
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That's very likely a v5 seeing as it has the bias points. I've only ever had them on v5s.
Don't listen to people that say v5s suck. I've owned like 15? Cobras and my favorite one ever is a v5. The earlier ones can be *slightly* darker but there is really not a massive difference
Also effects mix at noon. Crank channel volumes to reduce fizz. I generally have most eq knobs really high
Do not use with v30's. Use with greenbacks or equivalent. Don't use with hot pickups or you get a weird almost hm2 upper mid buzz. The lower output the better. Start with a ts style boost. Dime channel volumes and forget about it, not past 3pm, not 4pm, DIMED. Sounds like someone conflated "master" with channel volume...like all metal amps, the power section sounds good right up to clipping maybe they meant "3" and not "3pm". FX mix knob to 12pm, sends a really nice boost to the power amp...not sure what is going on there, but the loop blows chunks as it's line level and is just badly engineered, may be to do with where it sits in the circuit between gain stages/phase inverter? Also, just like the peavey xxx, dialling up the master 2 will add sparkle/aggression to master 1 when not engaged. The crunch channel is the one to use. Set eq flat except for treble. This one is the most powerful shaper imo. For greenbacks set at 3 on the dial, yes, 3, never exceed this for good clear tone with minimal fizz. For v30's, set at 2-2.5, this is if all of the above is followed. It does like the Orange cabs with v30's as they are wired at 16ohm (darker) and I guess the 16ohm tap on the output transformer is wound a bit different to the 8ohm making it a bit smoother. You can dial the lows down to 4 and mids push to 6-6.5 but the mids on this amp sound great at noon. I don't like to use the depth on this amp as it congests the tone. Yeah you lose some girth but it sounds much tighter and is still very punchy. Use gain around 6.5 and you can tweak this along with your boost settings to find a balance of attack/saturation. It's quite a dry amp with a fast percussive power section like a vht deliverance. I don't like the lead channel as it is too boomy in the lows and scooped in the mids, like even with them dimed. It is a bit squishier and has more gain though...what else, oh yeah presence flat i.e. noon on the dial for gain channels. Notch switches are useless. Use either JJ E34L's or ruby el34 and bias to 70% dissipation depending on plate voltage (usually ~495 volts at idle) this should come out around 33ma bias.The amp is quite noisy and can be prone to channel bleed. It uses a plethora of 1/8th watt resistors which make the inside of the amp bake when trying to dissipate 400 odd volts in the preamp and whatever boost is running in the input. As a result, well gigged specimens can eventually experience issues and blow the output transformer. The midi engineering on the PCBs and the optocouplers on the v5's is shit and contributes to noise and channel bleed. There are some small mods to tweak this amp into the beast it has the potential to be. I believe fja mods is familiar with this enigma of a high gainer and is open for business after a prolonged hiatus. Would be nice if someone actually made a good modern playthrough of this amp taking all of its incongruencies into account and really spending the time with it. It's still a giant killer in stock form.
Also a choke and mercury upgrade output transformer go a long way to clearing up the tone
5:01 I did! I remember very well when everyone was freaking over them thanks to Killswitch Engage.
I remember when there was a used one at Guitar Center for $850, played it, loved it, was gone when I returned to the store later the same day. 😞
I thought you were going to say Marshall valvestate. That would be a cool amp to review if you already haven't done it.
My buddy had one for his tech metal band but I'd always hesitated to pick one up since he said they were super tight
pretty sure the cobra cabs have greenbacks in them which sound very different
@11:46 almost sounds like a speaker is fried! Now at 13:08 ya got somethin'!
I dig it , love the tone. I wonder how much difference the matching cab will make in the sound?????
You need to try it with greenbacks or P50E’s. Fane F25’s and Splawn Small Blocks are great too. The effects loop knob effects things, I think around 12 o’clock was the sweet spot. Mine is at the tech, channels stopped switching and I’m stuck on the crunch channel for now. Also between like 2 o’clock and full on the channel volume depending on where you like it, then set the volume with the master. These things also love EHX 12AX7’s. I only really like those in this amp and my MP-1. You really need to try one in the V1 spot at least. They’re super picky amps, worth the effort and expenses that go with it though, when you’ve got the setup and settings perfect it all comes together and the hype is understood. People don’t like them with V30’s but they sound fine, it’s just not voiced for that and needs to be set accordingly.
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I guessed the amp! For me it was the Bury Your Dead dvd tone that had me wanting one and the way you described it reminded me of that haha!
Had a Cobra and many Dragons. Great amps, but most of them have the issue that a few diodes, that are used for the channel switching, are not working right and the channels are kind of overlaying themselves. Had that problem with my Cobra and my 5 Dragons.
If this problem is fixed, those amps are amazing. Also, kt77 powertubes work great in this amps.
We have one of the original versions without the bias points. You should give it a try with DV77’s seems to respond well with those
I believe that’s the amp that gives Napalm Death their guitar tones.
Kyle please make sure unplug that amp when not in use they have been know to start on fire. Have a good amp tech go through it. Merry Christmas hope you make your 20k goal
Framus sounded pretty good. Kyle, you ever worry about stacking amps that high? Triggers my OCD lol. I was going to ask you your advice in shelving but does not look like you use shelves at all.
Holy cow I guessed right! I wracked my brains for a good five minutes but you had played all my guesses before, until I went “Didn’t Killswitch Engage use Cobras?”
I’ve honestly never heard of this amp. Maybe it’s because don’t like metal core at all. Ha ha. However, this amp definitely has an interesting sound. That mid growl is unique for sure. I’m looking forward to hearing you pair it up with a different speaker/cab.
I like metalcore and even I haven't heard of this amp before this video lol. I always thought KSE mainly used 5150s back then.
I guess right. This amped was used by KSE and shaped the metalcore tone. You pretty much gave it away at the beginning 😝
You got a great tone out of it. Very cool! 👍
Great amp for sure. Haven't heard about these in a while. Good to see you finally got one 🤘
The problem with the Framus Cobra and Dragon was always the loop knob. Had both and until I got the FJA loop mod on the cobra I was always having issues with it. Plus the amps were not real solid in the build construction. They had to cool down before moving them because if you bumped them hard when they were hot they would break...mainly at the bottom of the tubes sockets. Just my experience with these amps.
Also I found that engaging the mid cut switch and cranking the mid knob got me a pretty decent tone.
Had one for a brief period of time a couple of years ago. Very sterile sounding amp. I was constantly trying to compensate its quirks with tips I gathered in several forums, but it just didn‘t work for me. I finally decided to sell it and someone drove 1 1/2 hours from Cologne to buy the amp. A couple of minutes before the buyer’s arrival I switched the amp on to play a last riff and say goodbye… and the amp suddenly died without warning. You can probably imagine the embarrassment I felt when the buyer arrived after his long drive and I had to tell him the deal couldn‘t happen.
The Framus Cobra just reminds me of mid-2000s HCAF
Speakers matter more than anything else in the signal chain
5:00 I was first going to say Splawn Nitro but then you already have a Splawn sitting back there. So the only other option was the Framus Cobra, that Adam used in layers. I also knew exactly who you were talking about without even thinking twice. Why? Because I went on a tone chase in the 2000s as well :D
I even tried some Framus amps back then but they never sounded right compared to my 5150, but I can see how this worked really well in layering.
Lol so uh any chance you want to get your have on a KSE owned Nitro. Cuz umm... I might be the current owner.
@@John-mh9ty haha awesome, that thing has some history! I never had the real thing but a custom preamp built after schematics and I used it on tour but eventually just settled with my EVH III