I'd give camera and music better marks... it's very clear what is going on, it's not being held by another person who can't stay on subject...you might not like the music genre but it's a perfectly acceptable loop
Hiya, I m trying to smelting my old gold ring. Looks like the process is similar as smelting silver. Your video is the best I have ever seen! And you are very patient to answer every1's question. Thanks for making the video and sharing your experience!
Hey, sometimes those globs are more interesting than bars. I used to melt down silver bullion on blocks of wood and they would turn into oddly shaped nuggets. People would buy them on ebay for over spot to use in jewelry
Cool video. I just got all the goods to do this from my friends at Metalifferous here in NYC. They told me to do it the same exact way, so thanks man. Also, love Funkorama for background music.
You have to treat the crucible with borax before you melt silver in it. Its called seasoning the crucible. It takes a little bit of Borax at first but you have to keep adding it while you heat the crucible. The borax will burn off for a bit but over time it will form a liquid glass on the bottom. Now you can start smelting silver. Borax keeps the molten silver from sticking.
As a tip if you get a small piece of that ceramic insulation and make a bowl out of it and place the ceramic crucible in it you will heat up faster and use less gas just a suggestion if you do it again it was a night and day difference I can also melt copper as well with mapp gas
Hi buddy thanks for the share, many many years ago I worked at a refinery, once you have it all melted you may want to put a little square of fiber glass at the tip of the rod to get the impurities out. Where did u get that mold and is it cast iron? thanks and regards Alex S
Other way around the glass floats on top of the silver. And yes you can smelt gold and silver ore with borax. Mbmmllc on youtube has tons of videos on that
Since copper melts at 1085 and silver at 962 is there anyway of separating the silver and copper so that you can remove most of that copper to make the bar at or around 99% purity?
to get investment grade silver which is at least 3 9's pure you have to start with a nitric acid extraction which will get you around 99%. To get 99.9+ you must then run it through a silver cell (electrolysis).
@@johnyrebel188 you can get 3 9's pure with acids as well. there's a few other steps after the nitric bath, but its possible, and kind of easy. silver cell actually gets it 4 9's pure if done right.
I can't get my silver to melt completely into a liquid. I have the max heat blow torch so I thought it would work since I just got a little graphite crucible but still no. Do I have to be holding the crucible up off the table/tile like you are? That's it maybe that's where all my heat is going
I was thinking gosh, will there be residue left into the little pan that you melt the silver in and will the silver burn if you over heat it? Is burning it even possible?
Cool Video! So why did you come out with less silver on the scale than when you started? And did you speed up the video or was this accomplished in real time of the video? Oh, and you sound very much like someone I may know, do you live in Texas?
I bought a mag gas torch the other day it gets the silver red but doesn’t melt it like that. what am I doing wrong after I stop hearing it just turns black its 925 silver idk help please
I had some silver stick to a crucible I have. I did coat it with borax.. and it stuck still like fine silver dust.. I recovered it.. (melted a 1 oz round)
looking for info, I have about 15 lbs of silver flake from a silver recovery machine that extracts the silver from photographic solution. I am looking for info on how to melt it down. am interested in selling it. any suggestions????
Ever tried to glaze the mold with the borax as well? Seemed like it didn't tarnish were you chipped the piece off.. maybe it would save a little buff time.
It's an item you buy, not make. Typically they are made of some form of ceramic and can withstand the high temps. RioGrande.com carries all that you need.
I have a mold just like that one and I was thinking about smelting some silver down by melting it in the bar mold itself, using a huge ass magnifying glass. I can make puddles of glass with it. What do you think? Will I succeed? Or should I smelt and pour? Just seems like a pain with how fast it hardens and all
As I comment I'm listening to your vid. Did you use borax? I heard this is very effective. I melted silver but my first time. It was all broken and tarnished. It came out a rosey silver plus a few white topaz he couldn't get out but by scraping. Any hints?
How do you tell if something is sterling? Like those chains and just "Scrap" Are there markings or anything? How do you test em? And where can I find scrap? Sorry for so many questions :P
1. It says anything along the lines of '925' (92.5% pure). 2. You can test it with acid and the purity is based on the colour the acid changes 3. You can buy scrap online, or just from old electronics
As a side note: some less scrupulous jewelry dealers mark their inferior silver alloys as 925 Sterling, when in fact it's much lower. While the quality stamp is always a good thing to look for, it doesn't always mean it's accurate!
mainly look at Mexican silver as one of the big ones for this these days as I have bought Mexican silver that is as low as a third silver but I paid way below scrap at table top sales (5p a gram sort of pricing) but for finding 90%+ silver you have pre-1964 US coins at 90% and pre-1920 UK coins those are sterling...of course you also have jewellery marked .925, ster, sterling and especally with the UK stuff it will have a lion as part of the alley mark confirming it is sterling
Nice video, So, wouldn't most silver rough pour molds be 92.5% or less purity? Also, do you know of any sellers making interesting mold designs that would make something other than a rough bar?
I'm thinking that most rough pour molds that are being sold online would most likely also be .925's since I doubt if people would take the time to refine a rough pour.
Liked and subbed... do you know how to separate Gold, Silver, Platinum, and Palladium from each other? Or copper from Gold? Thanks, can't find anything anywhere.
what is the purity of the bar once it comes out of the mold, is it .999 or .925? and by putting borax in it , that helps burn off the copper , zinc ect that's not silver ?
***** I am mearly smelting down the junk jewelry in to a bar. Smelting does not remove copper or gold out instead it mixes with the silver. All of my bars test over 90% which is what I try to maintain with each melt.
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Finally a video that cuts through all the BS and to the point, thank you.
A very clear, concise video how-to. Thank you for sharing this.
I say this in all seriousness; not only was this a very nice concise video, but that music is LIT!
Camera. 3/10
Music 2/10
Being clear and to the point without droning on .......10/10
I'd say that's a win for the video.
I'd give camera and music better marks... it's very clear what is going on, it's not being held by another person who can't stay on subject...you might not like the music genre but it's a perfectly acceptable loop
Dude; that music is ten outta ten
Great job I'm new at this and have been doing a ;lot of research and so far this has been the best learning tool by far.Thanks for sharing.
smelt is different to melt ;)
Great funky bass line in that music. Good stuff!!
Hiya, I m trying to smelting my old gold ring. Looks like the process is similar as smelting silver. Your video is the best I have ever seen! And you are very patient to answer every1's question. Thanks for making the video and sharing your experience!
Thank You and Good luck
Great video - Thanks for posting!
Had fun watching! Subscribed! Good luck with your channel!
Nice bar, I just started so I’m really good at pouring nuggets and globs 😆
Hey, sometimes those globs are more interesting than bars. I used to melt down silver bullion on blocks of wood and they would turn into oddly shaped nuggets. People would buy them on ebay for over spot to use in jewelry
Cool video. I just got all the goods to do this from my friends at Metalifferous here in NYC. They told me to do it the same exact way, so thanks man. Also, love Funkorama for background music.
You have to treat the crucible with borax before you melt silver in it. Its called seasoning the crucible. It takes a little bit of Borax at first but you have to keep adding it while you heat the crucible. The borax will burn off for a bit but over time it will form a liquid glass on the bottom. Now you can start smelting silver. Borax keeps the molten silver from sticking.
As a tip if you get a small piece of that ceramic insulation and make a bowl out of it and place the ceramic crucible in it you will heat up faster and use less gas just a suggestion if you do it again it was a night and day difference I can also melt copper as well with mapp gas
Hi buddy thanks for the share, many many years ago I worked at a refinery, once you have it all melted you may want to put a little square of fiber glass at the tip of the rod to get the impurities out. Where did u get that mold and is it cast iron? thanks and regards
Alex S
this is really cool. how does the crucible keep the silver from sticking?
thanks for the reply. if can keep collecting silver, u can make a lot of bars :) Is there a way to determine the purity?
They call it glassing in the crucible. Borax turns to glass as its heated and the silver floats on top of the molten glass.
So can you smelt silver ore by using this method
Other way around the glass floats on top of the silver. And yes you can smelt gold and silver ore with borax. Mbmmllc on youtube has tons of videos on that
Since copper melts at 1085 and silver at 962 is there anyway of separating the silver and copper so that you can remove most of that copper to make the bar at or around 99% purity?
you'd have to refine it using either electrolysis or acid refining then melt the resulting powder
To me this is melting and not smelting!
to get investment grade silver which is at least 3 9's pure you have to start with a nitric acid extraction which will get you around 99%. To get 99.9+ you must then run it through a silver cell (electrolysis).
@@johnyrebel188 you can get 3 9's pure with acids as well. there's a few other steps after the nitric bath, but its possible, and kind of easy. silver cell actually gets it 4 9's pure if done right.
very cool i enjoyed your video i think i am going to buy the equipment to melt down silver and gold awesome man
That's bad ass. NEW HOBBY
I can't get my silver to melt completely into a liquid. I have the max heat blow torch so I thought it would work since I just got a little graphite crucible but still no. Do I have to be holding the crucible up off the table/tile like you are? That's it maybe that's where all my heat is going
yes . It involves different types of acid that dissolve the silver and change color to determine the level of purity.
Great pour buddy.
how to you get the bar shape in that block or can you but it?
I was thinking gosh, will there be residue left into the little pan that you melt the silver in and will the silver burn if you over heat it? Is burning it even possible?
Hello friend is the borax safe to use in a crucible for the electric furnaces? Thanks
I did that many times it never came out like that? What am I doing wrong.thanks
Hi
how can calculate the recovery and purity of silver?
Hey there, im beginning to look into furnace and found this so im gonna give it a go, what gas did you use?
Nice video. Thanks !
Will butane torch work? Will 90 percent silver melt ok ?
after melting to silver does it put off the same amount of heat that was applied to it?
How do you prepare the mold that you poured your silver into?
Cool Video! So why did you come out with less silver on the scale than when you started? And did you speed up the video or was this accomplished in real time of the video? Oh, and you sound very much like someone I may know, do you live in Texas?
very cool where did you get your Kit?
What brand and model of blowtorch do you recomend?
I bought a mag gas torch the other day it gets the silver red but doesn’t melt it like that. what am I doing wrong after I stop hearing it just turns black its 925 silver idk help please
What kind of torch are you using, propane or MAPP?
How pure is the end result product ?
Can anyone tell me what thr borax actually does? I know they say it "cleans" the silver but what does it do? Does it remove the other metals?
It’s borax residue and humidity responsible for mild spotting?
What type of torch do you use?
interesting process
Nice.which material pot is used to melt silver?
I had some silver stick to a crucible I have. I did coat it with borax.. and it stuck still like fine silver dust.. I recovered it.. (melted a 1 oz round)
will this same method work on pre-1965 silver coins? then because they are 90% silver is it a good idea to stamp ".900 fine silver" on the bar?
Can you provide links to the tools used please?
Just a decent mapp gas torch.
Very cool bro.
Do you put anything in your mold to help come out?
Hello! What kind of gas do you use to melt? Thank you?
why did u loose so much weight of silver?
I didn't add all the silver into the bar, it was just to much for the mold.
Very nice
Why add a little silver at a time? Why preheat the crucible? What about the non-silver content? How do you separate it out?
Where do I get a kit to melt silver at can you send me a website ???
How do I make my own silver bars at home?
Wich model of torch do you use?
I have been practicing but my silver just comes out grey like the top of your bar same thing ? Why is my torch to small?
To get the silver luster to come out you will have to buff it on a buffing wheel.
is the mold 1 oz or is it 1 troy oz
Does silver shrinks when melted right
What torch and other items would you recommend? I'd like to start doing my own poured bars. Thanks!
2 bernzomatic ts8000s or oxyacetelene
how long does the crucible last with constant use
By which torch u use to melt bro
when melting 40% silver coins how do you get rid of the copper?
looking for info, I have about 15 lbs of silver flake from a silver recovery machine that extracts the silver from photographic solution. I am looking for info on how to melt it down. am interested in selling it. any suggestions????
Is it real silver flake I'd be interested in buying it my email is joshuaryanspaulding@gmail.com let me know
Ever tried to glaze the mold with the borax as well? Seemed like it didn't tarnish were you chipped the piece off.. maybe it would save a little buff time.
What torch is being used here?
Do you need to put any talcum powder or anything else onto the graphite mold so it just pops out when you turn it over?
No. The silver harden's very quickly and just falls out of the mold easily.
whats the price of the crucible and mold? or what would be a suitable household item that would work well as a mold?
I think they were around $20 each. Check around online for good deals.
What did you use as a crucible? Excuse my ignorance but I'm trying to learn.
It's an item you buy, not make. Typically they are made of some form of ceramic and can withstand the high temps. RioGrande.com carries all that you need.
Lol. It's called a crucible.
Awesome!!! Does melting the sterling purify it? If not, how would one go from sterling to .999 fine? Thanks for any info!
dissolve it in acids. then add other stuff to it to drop the pure silver out of the acid.
I have a mold just like that one and I was thinking about smelting some silver down by melting it in the bar mold itself, using a huge ass magnifying glass. I can make puddles of glass with it. What do you think? Will I succeed? Or should I smelt and pour? Just seems like a pain with how fast it hardens and all
fencekid I think it would be very interesting to see you melt different metals with a giant magnifying glass.
+fencekid , i would like to see that man. glass. . .
+fencekid I want a giant magnifying glass too, but for smelting ants.
what r u using for heat ? just a reg propane torch ,,,or what is the best to use in something hand held like your using?
I use a torch with mapp gas cause it burns hotter. A shop torch would work even better.
As I comment I'm listening to your vid. Did you use borax? I heard this is very effective. I melted silver but my first time. It was all broken and tarnished. It came out a rosey silver plus a few white topaz he couldn't get out but by scraping. Any hints?
I melt borax in the crucible first. It creates a glass coating that the molten floats on.
I'd be extremely happy with that if that was my first poor! I'll be finding out real soon how it goes!
Have you thought about adding a second torch on the mold via holding device or have wife hold? Great video
Yes a second torch would be handy to heat the mold. Thanks for watching.
Can the torch be butane?
How do you tell if something is sterling? Like those chains and just "Scrap"
Are there markings or anything? How do you test em? And where can I find scrap?
Sorry for so many questions :P
1. It says anything along the lines of '925' (92.5% pure).
2. You can test it with acid and the purity is based on the colour the acid changes
3. You can buy scrap online, or just from old electronics
As a side note: some less scrupulous jewelry dealers mark their inferior silver alloys as 925 Sterling, when in fact it's much lower. While the quality stamp is always a good thing to look for, it doesn't always mean it's accurate!
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mainly look at Mexican silver as one of the big ones for this these days as I have bought Mexican silver that is as low as a third silver but I paid way below scrap at table top sales (5p a gram sort of pricing) but for finding 90%+ silver you have pre-1964 US coins at 90% and pre-1920 UK coins those are sterling...of course you also have jewellery marked .925, ster, sterling and especally with the UK stuff it will have a lion as part of the alley mark confirming it is sterling
Good video, you also sound like jeff goldblum. Its awesome haha
Jake Grainger You mean Brad Bellflower. lol
Loll good call!
Name blowtorch ???? I want to buy one
What is the size of your mold?How long you take in these process? Thank you. :-)
The mold is 2.5 ozs and I would say a little less then ten minutes.
How the little silver bar worth?
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What purity silver become after this?
Nice video, So, wouldn't most silver rough pour molds be 92.5% or less purity? Also, do you know of any sellers making interesting mold designs that would make something other than a rough bar?
Todd White yes I use old sterling .925 to make the bars. The have tons of different graphite molds on EBay.
I'm thinking that most rough pour molds that are being sold online would most likely also be .925's since I doubt if people would take the time to refine a rough pour.
Why does some of the silver look like brass?
Sterling does have a small amount of copper in it, which might explain the brass color.
How long would say this took you, In real time?
What if i melt different types of silver together?
It would change the purity of the silver.
How can you separate the copper in coin silver?
acid refining with nitric lot of video on here about it
U also have to heat the mold to 400-500 before or u can crack it and you will get a better pour it won’t cool down as fast and make imperfections
Liked and subbed... do you know how to separate Gold, Silver, Platinum, and Palladium from each other? Or copper from Gold? Thanks, can't find anything anywhere.
Dellrugby PM The refining process is a bit different then smelting which is what I'm doing. Thank You for watching.
What torch is that? Propane or MAPP gas? Great video by the way.
Steve Rogers I use Mapp gas because it burns hotter.
+NativePrairie WolfTwo mapp as originally sold is no longer available. the newer version is not as hot.
Where did you get/buy your mold? Thanks
Colton Baker Off the internet. Just look up 1 oz silver bar mold.
Hi,I buy a bernzomatic ts8000 torch recently,but the knob is stuck,it can't screw.(without mapp gas)Could you help me? Thank you.:))
It sounds like your torch is defective .The knob should be able to move. You may want to return it and get another one.
Can knob take apart from torch? Thank you :)))
what is the purity of the bar once it comes out of the mold, is it .999 or .925? and by putting borax in it , that helps burn off the copper , zinc ect that's not silver ?
The bar was tested to be .925. Borax will help remove dirt and such but it does not remove the copper.
ahhh okay. so you wont get as much money per say but still something. cool thank you
***** I am mearly smelting down the junk jewelry in to a bar. Smelting does not remove copper or gold out instead it mixes with the silver. All of my bars test over 90% which is what I try to maintain with each melt.
The mold is made of graphite and will dissipate heat to quickly.
HELLO JUNKMASTER CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TIPE OF GAS YOU USE, AND HOW YOU CLEAN IT TO MAKE IT SHINY
MAP Gas It comes in a yellow can. Don't use propane because it doesn't burn hot enough. I clean my silver on a buffing wheel.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Any local grocery store has borax look in the laundry department
It was a 2.5 troy oz mold