Melting silver plated items into ingots
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
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today im going to be melting down some silver plated items into some ingot.lets see what i end up with
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Great video. I have tons of silver plated items. Mostly copper underneath it. I will try this. Have a great weekend 😊🤗
Thank you. Let me know how you get on. 👍
That's cool. For some reason I figured it would still look like copper, with silver plating only being 7% of the make-up. Good to know though. It has a nice color to it. I have a bunch myself, I may have to melt some down. Nice goin'.
Thank you. I was actually melting these for a friend. If they were mine I might of taken a different approach 👍😂
You can get cool effects by pickling low silver and gold alloys in a weak acid. The acid disolves the surface copper without touching the silver/gold.
That was great to watch yeah some aluminium get oxidised leaving more dross when melted but nice once cleaned up into ingots , nice days work brother
Thank you 👍
nice bars, thanks for the video...
Thank you
Don't listen to that friend again 0:14
what does it melt into?
An ingot
The little boots one was definitely either steel or lead, i have a pair of them, they are mad heavy!
I’m pretty sure they were brass as there was no chemical reaction at all and solid brass is very heavy aswell
Those were actually some pretty cool cowboy boots 👢👢
Before you melt this kind of stuff take a grinder & see if its Copper, Brass or stainless, You have Lead + Pewter Contamination, No scrap yard will buy them as Cu Or Brass maybe Lead as they pay the lowest, Some are made of brass with Lead handles, Also since your melting Lead mixtures check & see if your filters are rated for Lead?
I melted these for a friend and wanted them all melted together so I was just doing as he wanted i definitely wouldn’t of melted them if they where mine I would of got someone to chemically remove the silver.
Thank you for watching 👍
@@meltingipswich maybe mention that in the beginning when you noted it was for a friend that they didn't want the silver separated and this is not a method for anyone wanting to properly separate the silver from the rest of the metals. It SHOULD be obvious but there are some very clueless people on this planet.
The stainless won't melt at that temp. Alot of silver plate is German silver mostly nickle.
Why would you not refine the silver out? From what I see the items on the table were more valuable as antiques. For instance I have sold the small boots for around €10 and €30 for a pair. Some plated items still have value, not a lot but more than low end scrap as has been noted. But a nice job on the smelting and the ingots.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
I melted these for a friend and if they were mine I would of done things differently 👍
You could recover the silver from surface first, then melt.
I melted these for a friend and I just done what he asked me to do
Looks like a good old black and decker drill still going strong.
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Sending this off for Sreetips to refine?
😂🤣 that wouldn’t be a bad idea
What are they worth now What’s the assay ?
I’m not sure, what ever someone will pay for them I guess sorry I don’t think they are worth anything really
Well done.
Nice bars of what is now a mystery alloy. Total waste of time and money.
Thank you
2:13 how lucky are you that this did not blow up a soon as you put that in? I did something similar with a small copper elbow and had molten metal blow all over the place.
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Does the silver pour out first, guessing that the copper is heavier and takes longer to melt?
What is the material that the silver is covering?
The whole thing is silver in colour I am very tempted in drilling into it to see what’s inside
@@meltingipswich yeah I think you should drill it as well!
@@meltingipswich how about cutting one in half? Or cut the end off so we can see if it layered.
Are you in Ipswich, MA?
Ipswich England 🏴
Greetings from Ipswich, QLD (That's Australia for the uneducated)
What percentage silver is the usual ingot from silver plating?
5% maybe
I’m not to sure but I would say it was very little even as little as 1%
Was 3 pounds for a kilo of silver plate a good deal?
I’m not sure 🤔 as I said I melted this for a friend so I didn’t get to sell this or experiment on it I wish I still had it so I could cut it in haft to see what it looked like inside.
Thank you for watching 👍
Being silver plate is the result a .925 bar? Great pour fun to watch. Thanks for sharing.😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
No I don’t think there is much silver in it at all but the whole thing was silver in colour which was surprising
So how would someone separate the silver from the base metal being plated?
Nitric acid @@joshwade633
@@joshwade633 Hn03 .
Then precipitation and drop the silver out of solution to separate any other metals
Options:
1. Cut it up to expose the base metal and soak it in HCl. The acid will dissolve the base metal and leave flakes of the silver plating.
2. Put it in an electrolyte bath and do reverse electroplating.
3. Soak it in HNO3 until everything dissolves and then add copper metal to the solution. The copper will cause the silver to precipitate out as it's more reactive than silver.
4. Melt it in a Portland cement cupel with some lead, zinc, or other base metals. The Portland cement will absorb liquid metal oxides but not liquid metals. Silver only forms an oxide under 195° C and the melting point of silver is almost 5 times that high. The base metals will be absorbed into the cupel, darkening it, and a button of silver (and any other noble metals that might be in the alloy) will form.
I detected zinc smoldering andthe video showed a piece melting quite quickly like aluminum so I would bet you have copper, brass, aluminum and a possibility of pewter but from what I read pewter is to costly to silver plate.its a " pot luck pour!"
😂 yeah I think there is a real mixture there I would probably throw lead in there aswell
I don’t understand melting plated idems not much Silver in them.
Thank you 👍
I've some epns knifes, 2 questions if anyone can help,
is a 3kw 1100C electric furnace hot enough to fully melt it and would it be suitable for casting small spur gears 33t 1m?
Silver content is so small I'd disregard it but it'd be nice to repurpose the metal.
I’ve actually got video on melting silver in a 3kw electric furnace and I failed miserably so I just put it in the gas and that done the job 👍
16 lbs of what? What is the chemical composition of your end product?
It’s a mystery I have no idea I just melted it down for a friend
what is the value of it all
Be far easier to remove the silver in solution now it's concentrated
So what happened to the metal
It’s still there
Can u sell them for profit?
You can but they are not going to make you load of money
@@meltingipswich damn
So, a silver rich pewter?
I’m not sure what I’ve ended up with. It’s a mystery ingot
How much silver can successfully be extracted 40 % silver
I’m not sure 🤔 I was just by a friend to melt it down if it was mine I would of wanted to extract the silver first
How much
@@reillystsb I’m not sure
@@meltingipswich Thanks
Way less it was plated not sterling 2% maybe
Cool video 👍. To the whiners: -try do this yourself, it’s fun, addictive and a profit… so why not? 😅
Go on Bro 😎
Thank you
What's the device that you need for melting down the metal so I could buy it for me
I use a 10kg devil forge
It’s so interesting to watch this pour. I’m so accustomed to aluminum that seeing something silvery but without the same surface tension is hard to process in my head. Great video Ipswich!
That you I not even sure what kind of metal it is. But I meted then for a friend and I guess it’s up to them to figure that out 😂
Thank for watching 👍
@@meltingipswich would be wrong to just call it pot metal at this point?
Great for casting artsy stuff
Silver plate scraps for $1 a pound when clearly marked
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I'm confused, if it is only silver plated, where did the other metal go?
It’s created an alloy. An unknown alloy tho
I have the same question do u no Thank you
@@JimKing-w4n the metals didn’t go anywhere it’s made an alloy
@@meltingipswich Thank you for getting back to me!
Its alloy now 😂❤
Yeah
I was pretty surprised to see any sort of silvery appearance on the finished ingots. I'd have thought they would look like brass, which I am assuming is the main underlying metal, although some could be pewter. Also surprised to NOT see the normal scabby surface appearance of pure copper and to some extent, brass. I'd reco doing a specific gravity test (hang with string in water) on that smaller bar to get an idea of the composition, just for giggles.
😂 thank you but these where melted for a friend so I no longer have them. Thank you for watching 👍
Where did the slag go , shouldn't the silver of fell to the bottom and broke the slag off. At least thats what ive seen done before. Maybe point me to a more informationmnal video on the process. I guess the separation, how does that take place by heat alone. Uneducated so im asking.
I’m not entirely sure how to make it pure silver but I think the best way is using chemicals but I have seen people melt it with a lot of lead and just keep burning until the lead burns away then you left with the silver but I’m not sure if that works
@@meltingipswich I appreciate you taking time to respond. I'm new to investing in silver and see the benefits of melting down unwanted "garbage" silver. I see a large portion of slag did come off. That's the actual garbage, correct? Do you have a questimation on the quality or purity I guess?
i would be guessing that was pewter
I think it’s alsorts if I’m honest
😢 I like antiquar, and vintage, but there is ... 😮😢
Sorry it wasn’t mine 😂 I was melting it for a friend. So I was just do what I was asked to do. Thank you for watching and commenting 👍
I'm just a little guy, I could have worn those boots. I would have paid 500 dollars for said boots!
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Jesus loves you and died for you man of God have a blessed rest of your year
Thank you 👍
Time to buy a purity tester.
I would love to get one but they are very expensive but maybe in the future
Wow, you didn’t clean up any slag. The bars would’ve came out so much better.
Looks like some lead oxides
It is more than likely there is lead amongst them
What a waste of energy...for nothing.
Thank you 😄
Literally just a pile of potmetal now
Usually tin or pewter and is actually quite expensive to buy for ammo reloading. It’s a waste of energy for idiots like you to write hateful comments. He is just pursuing a fun hobby and making money in the process. Thanks for ruining someone’s day 🍆🤏
@@E-wasteOwen 👏
@@E-wasteOwen This is not hateful. It is a waste of energy and you americans are big at that. No. 2 polluter in the world! Congrats.
This reminds me of the gold-plated brass pins that are being melted down, cast into ingots and sold on eBay by unscrupulous sellers in the middle east. You are just taking an item that is easy to extract the valuable plating from - and making it completely uneconomical. You might just as well spend the gas and your labor to melt down and sell zinc scrap.
This was melted down for a friend it wasn’t mine. I was just doing as I was asked I know it would have been better to extract the silver. And I would never sell things on eBay under false pretences. Thank you for watching and commenting I welcome all comments 👍
That is some very dirty silver.
Refine 999.
I don't know why everyone is so mean. Like the silver content is a life changing amount, get real. What's next, "OMG you couldn't even drill for natural gas to use in your forge, what a loser." LOL I mean come on.
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75 percent silver 25 percent tin copper and silver do not look silver when melted .silver and brass not likely as the silver would start burning off before the brass melts. lead no chance . That's my opinion awesome melt brother
Yeah I’m not really sure what it is but it was done for a friend and they will have to figure that out. One thing they are heavy old bars
Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha.
I took an old Samsung phone charger 1.5 volts at milliamps of current used the red wire on the silver plate and the black wire on a piece of copper and it is doing a stand up job of deplating without any effort.😂😂😂😂.
Awesome mate 👍
Too bad the boots weren't your size. They wouldn't be comfortable, but style usually isn't.
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so all that work for worthless muck metal. still interesting content however
waste of gas and time for very little money if any
I don’t pay for gas and it’s a hobby so for me it’s very much worth it. Thank you for watching 👍
So you're just melting it all together into one chunk without separating the silver from everything else and making it seem like that's just ok for everyone who watched your video and didn't know any better?? Irresponsible.
Thank you 👍
It's is way easier for his friend to now remove the silver in solution from the other metals .
@@yesrecovery1297 Yes, some of us know this, I'm betting a significant portion of people watching this video do not. Maybe it's mentioned somewhere and I missed it...
fake
What’s fake
you dont get pure silver from plate melt
@@peteanderson1714 who said you did