dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are bored like me during the covid times you can watch pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. I've been watching with my gf for the last weeks xD
HA!😂 You've got it backwards sir💡History lasts forever because history can not be changed, but everything else such as physical items can be changed😂😂👍
Trouble is, it is a crime under Federal Law to melt down United States coins for the silver content. That would include any coin rings that you showed. Just saying.
@@oldgeezer2007 nope it’s a crime if your doing it to extract the silver and sell it as is however it’s not a crime if it is done for educational or artistic purposes
Put a separate torch over the molds WHILE you pour it, and it will help with the blackness and the bars will come out a lot more even on the top (in the mold) takes a little practice but it’s worth it. Try it and see.
Hey JW! How are you brother! This is such a cool video, I will be joining your membership soon btw! I wish I could learn to pour metals, I have LOTS of copper and a nice amount of real "junk silver ( lot of sterling jewelry etc. Maybe ill the stuff to you lol! Proilly 20, oz of It could make a cool piece thats no doubt!!!
Nice, hey I tried the other day to melt junk silver with a torch, but couldn't heated up enough and when I pour it into the ingots it keep doing mountain and it didn't spread out nicely, but with 99.9 silver it didn't happen, do you have a idea what it could be, or do you recommend me to buy what you are using? Thanks.
Great Vid Bro some fun captions BUTT ffs a lil bit more info Please! what did you coat / plate with ? is that pure silver bullets in water or nitric acid that you sealed and rotated ?!
Slit a peice of copper pipe. Then pound it flat an cut to shape. Aneal it before bending around the jaws or it may crack. i used 1 inch to cover my jaws but my vice is a bit hefty
@@rustybritches6747 Hard to sell to individuals. Even home refined 999 silver bars are hard to sell unless you have a following. Most do this for easy storage and most refiners pay less if at all for scrap jewlery but melt it into a bar they can weigh and assay, and they will buy it that way. Melting the coins was just stupid, they have a known weight and content, easy to sell and usually have a premium.
Yeah the guy below me said it right, the metal is cooling to quickly try adding heat as you pour and into the mound when it’s poured to relax the metal in its new form
Would coin dip clean them up ? A did if nitric acid, little muriatic acid & distilled water solution and a quick dip a rinse and polish cloth might work better than machine buffering. Can you separate the copper from silver to bring the purity up to at least .99 fine or even ..93 fine ??
Yeah most of my tools in the beginning came from there. I did learn that the small anvil is only good for punching letters and numbers and not from stamping. Broke the foot right off
Move your Crucible more towards the front of your kiln. Direct flame from your burner will shorten the life of it. They are not cheap brother. Good job on the pours.
I use a ultrasonic cleaner for cleaning all my junk silver before melting it's quick and easy and doesn't require any work and I use it to clean the dirt and grime off of valuable coins when I find them when out metal detecting or from the bank and what not cuse it doesn't damage them anymore. But I like that roller
So after the first melt, it still had pieces of the flux on top of it, so I wanted to get it off. But, in hindsight, I could've just left it and cleaned it off. Either way, the big bar will eventually be remelted to something cooler. Thanks for watching!!
Interesting I think I'll just keep my junk silver coins as they are. Interesting to see how you do it,. I can see melting rings and other non coin related silver down into bars.
I have some old junk foreign silver coins that are also mixed with copper and I wonder about melting them down to " skim" the copper off and make mostly pure silver bars ? Or does it take a more professional smelting approach to do that ?
@@denp54z check you tube as there probably have uploads to show you how to do it. Personally, I would not advise doing it as unless someone has a way of measuring how pure the silver you have and it's weight, it is just easier to trade the junk silver as it is as just about everyone knows it's value.
@@denp54z Dilute Nitric acid boil, then cool and cement the silver out with copper. That will get you close to 99.9 if you want 99.99 then you have to take it to the next step and build a silver cell. Nitric acid is pretty dangerous stuff and takes quite a bit of knowledge to safely use and dispose of. If I wasn't versed in chemistry I would just cuppel it and get it close to 99% pure. The problem with that is you will need to have it tested to know the purity, so you would need someone with an XRF scanner willing to scan it. I wouldn't melt down coins as they are pre assayed and more likely to be trusted. I work with broken gold and silver jewlery so melting it or dissolving it in acid is no big deal.
@@PHUCKyoutube689 I have used a Nitric Acid solution to clean silver coins/bars of rust stains and other crud but never used it for anything else. There is so much labor, time and materials used to "reclaim silver" it almost seems not to be worth it. Yeah gold has a higher pay out but silver not so much.
I think there are multiple ways to do it but I've seen acids used. It looked kindof complicated. Check out videos on RUclips it looks really cool watching the silver form like an ice crystal out of the solution.
Nice video. I'm not what the purity of the silver was, but I would bet it wasn't over 85%. Lower purity of silver, can make the bars come out black. Your silver may have been hot enough when you took it out of the crucible, but you need to pour about 3 times faster than you did. The silver was hardening in seconds, because the temperature was too low. But still a good video!!
I'm getting ready to buy one of these devil forges. I want to do this exact same thing to melt down .925 silver. Any very important things you've learned since you've got the furnace?
@@JWsCoinsandHobbies 20grams ? That's huge compared to what I'm trying to produce. I'm trying to make $1 .999fs coins... But that's only about 1.2 grams and my rounds are TINY.... So.. I'm going to start testing bimetallic with silver plug in a copper coin to get better sizing. I did a 5gram round last night...but fucked it up when I stamped too hard and tried to press out the dents. Oh well... I'm very new and I'll master it eventually.
Everybody in the comments: “I can’t believe you can’t pour molten metal at home correctly like a foundry” , “came here expecting to learn how to cast silver, Dissapointed” Creator: *likes comment*
If you're going to do something and publish it on the internet......... Do a decent job... The problem is we have hacks that don't realize that the views are worth more than the silver.
Yeah it's tough. I remember back when I refined and had a stash of silver nitrate pellets I refined to pure silver it took alot of pours to get them looking great. I started practicing with lead. But in the end it dont matter cause the refiner I sold to just remelted them all into one big bar anyways lol
Not I. I think he's dealing with 2000 degrees, a different person that pours mentioned how hot it was. I just watch, and I'm scared to get burnt. Think he did a nice job. Will say I loved the coin rings, but I he did what he had to do, to get the 999.
The coin rings look better than the bars
Ehh, one could say that I personally like big ol’ bars.
@Billy Mack, Texas Detective exactly what I thought.
@@johnboore2646 me too ;)
botched rings
dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are bored like me during the covid times you can watch pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. I've been watching with my gf for the last weeks xD
Always pains me to see people melt constitutional silver, silver lasts forever but history doesn’t
HA!😂 You've got it backwards sir💡History lasts forever because history can not be changed, but everything else such as physical items can be changed😂😂👍
@@catherineharris4746 You're right, historians don't actually have anything to do because we already know what happened.
Trouble is, it is a crime under Federal Law to melt down United States coins for the silver content. That would include any coin rings that you showed. Just saying.
@@oldgeezer2007 nope it’s a crime if your doing it to extract the silver and sell it as is however it’s not a crime if it is done for educational or artistic purposes
I though 90% silver was legal to melt because it was taken out on circulation.
Not Hot enough when pooring I had this same problem I added another props torch to my foundry worked a treat
*This was so relaxing to watch. Thanks mate. :)*
Hey I have some silver I want to fo this with...stupid question should I clean it first because some of the stuff is really tarnished
No need to clean it if it just has tarnish
Just add little borax, yr bars or rounds will come out nicely. Also keep heat on the pour so yr metal will flow nicely
Can I use this process to extract coins with 50% silver?
Silver looks and sounds so beautiful!
As far a the color I have always preferred silver over gold. That is why I liked my white gold wedding band.
Sometimes we learn by doing.
Finally someone who understands! Haha thanks!!
You’re moulds should have been hotter,
and add some borax to the melt it will give you a much cleaner results
wow that was cool. GOLD SQUAD OUT!!!
Put a separate torch over the molds WHILE you pour it, and it will help with the blackness and the bars will come out a lot more even on the top (in the mold) takes a little practice but it’s worth it. Try it and see.
So someone needs to hold a flame from a torch into the cast iron mold as the other is pouring the molten metal in the mold correct ?
@@thisisnotnonamep1406 yes!! It will help a lot! Good luck!
Nice! Always harder dealing with the copper in the junk melts but still came out nice.
Hi
Thanks bro! Yeah that black got me, but still turned out alright!
You can avoid that with a really cool neodymium magnet trick
Those punch outs are cool AF… I bet you could sell them as markers to golfers
Need a torch in a Vice blowing on the mold as it pours.
Hey JW! How are you brother! This is such a cool video, I will be joining your membership soon btw! I wish I could learn to pour metals, I have LOTS of copper and a nice amount of real "junk silver ( lot of sterling jewelry etc. Maybe ill the stuff to you lol! Proilly 20, oz of It could make a cool piece thats no doubt!!!
Silver is a real beast in regards of casting it into graphite forms…
You had me fooled there for a minute I thought that was a new kind of drink LOL
The bars might come out looking better if you heat the molds before you pour
They are always heated before, thanks for watching!
He clearly heated the molds first
I find 90% and .925 cools so quickly it's hard to pour a nice even bar. Even with pre heat torch on full blast while pouring.
@@mickeylickey123keep your butane flame on the metal while pouring
And the junk on your fingers lol
Where can a person buy moulds
Nice, hey I tried the other day to melt junk silver with a torch, but couldn't heated up enough and when I pour it into the ingots it keep doing mountain and it didn't spread out nicely, but with 99.9 silver it didn't happen, do you have a idea what it could be, or do you recommend me to buy what you are using? Thanks.
I'm not sure but I think it could have a higher melting temperature. So maybe just need more heat.
MORE HEAT
d u h h h . .
Metal to cold, butane should take you 15mins then the silver will be liquid, use a melt dish. Youll be fine, just please preheat yr mould.
Great Vid Bro some fun captions BUTT ffs a lil bit more info Please! what did you coat / plate with ? is that pure silver bullets in water or nitric acid that you sealed and rotated ?!
Wow very nice JW! Pretty cool stuff! You should call the 5 JUNK, the “Jabba bar”. Lol!
Great video my friend!!!
I love your name, and if you are who I think you are, YOU ROCK!! And if not, you rock anyways!!
@@JWsCoinsandHobbies I’m thinking that you do know! And JW Sir, I appreciate you my brother!!! I’m tired, could use a coffee... 😁
How did u take the copper out?
Easy way for side lettering is wrap in an old leather belt and put in vice. Work smarter not harder JW
You're a genius Gump!! Thanks!
Just started making coin rings and will eventually have to do this. Thanks!
Always wanted to learn how to make coin rings, just haven't tried it yet, maybe one day
Great job buddy boy!🍻👊 The sign looks great. Lmao😝
Like that beaver eh? Hahaha thanks bro! It looks great in the garage!
Cool video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Gina!!
How much silver coins did u start with
Very cool bro. My little Devil Forge just turned up today. Can’t wait to use it.
Nice man! Can't wait to watch the vids!
Is there a way to separate the copper from the silver?
Could refine it with chemicals to get it to .999 fine, but I won't be doing that any time soon.
you can boil it in sulfuric acid .Most say nitric .Yes nitric is faster but expensive . sulfuric will do it
Those sure shined up nice, thanks for sharing.
Stupid question, but how much more difficult is it to refine rather than just melt? Like how much more cost involved to get it to 0.99 silver?
There’s a channel called sreetips that you can watch too answer that.
You should get some copper guards for a vice for your side printing
Thanks for the tip! Definitely going to have to try something
Slit a peice of copper pipe. Then pound it flat an cut to shape. Aneal it before bending around the jaws or it may crack. i used 1 inch to cover my jaws but my vice is a bit hefty
any like to that water roller?
what is called those things you smash in numbers and letters ? I want to buy :D
Do you have any trouble selling homemade bars? Do buyers question the metal content and stay away?
Was also curious about this! I guess it depends on the buyer, if they have a machine or not!
@@rustybritches6747 Hard to sell to individuals. Even home refined 999 silver bars are hard to sell unless you have a following. Most do this for easy storage and most refiners pay less if at all for scrap jewlery but melt it into a bar they can weigh and assay, and they will buy it that way. Melting the coins was just stupid, they have a known weight and content, easy to sell and usually have a premium.
Silver, ohhhh yeah!
Nice job! Looks great! I will do this one day!
100k views 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Congrats brother!
Thanks dude!!! Freaking crazy!!
5:45 Same sound as lake ice splitting or skipping rocks across ice.
Something just relaxing about watching this!
Yeah the guy below me said it right, the metal is cooling to quickly try adding heat as you pour and into the mound when it’s poured to relax the metal in its new form
Reheating makes the metal relax, old trick by metal body workers of crashed cars
Molds are not hot enough...
Like the old saying goes, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", lol.
Nah. It's in the eye of the beerholder
That was very cool
SWEET!!!!
That was awesome to watch,New Subscriber 👍🤩
Would coin dip clean them up ? A did if nitric acid,
little muriatic acid & distilled water solution and a quick dip a rinse and polish cloth might work better than machine buffering.
Can you separate the copper from silver to bring the purity up to at least .99 fine or even ..93 fine ??
Try keeping a torch on the mold before, during and after the pour. It helps.
I find 90% and .925 cools so quickly it's hard to pour a nice even bar. Even with pre heat torch on full blast while pouring.
10k BOOM congrats my friend 🤙
I can't believe you melted down constitution silver
Melting down Junk silver that is barely discernable from other coins and have zero added value
Wow they r very cool looking .. sweet video JW 💪🏻
Cool process! I really enjoyed this vid! And pickles and beavers! Nice!
Did you get that vice from harbor freight? If so I have the same one lol
Yeah most of my tools in the beginning came from there. I did learn that the small anvil is only good for punching letters and numbers and not from stamping. Broke the foot right off
Man, that's Awesome.
A dip in some pickle solution should remove all the black fire scale wthout the need to tumble.
May I suggest a turbo torch
Very Cool JW
Move your Crucible more towards the front of your kiln. Direct flame from your burner will shorten the life of it. They are not cheap brother. Good job on the pours.
Thanks for the tips!!
Very cool video
Enjoyed!
Great video! Btw ...Jw is my Initials also!!
Best initials ever!!
Lol absolutely
I use a ultrasonic cleaner for cleaning all my junk silver before melting it's quick and easy and doesn't require any work and I use it to clean the dirt and grime off of valuable coins when I find them when out metal detecting or from the bank and what not cuse it doesn't damage them anymore. But I like that roller
Was wondering how you got the black nail on your thumb then I seen the end of the video 😂
A1 FOR CLASS PORE MATE? FALL GUY'Z TOMORROW??
That looks like slot of fun!
So much fun!! When I come home I'm bringing the forge, maybe we will have a forge party!
Another trip down Beaver lane....! I like the side lettering. Thanks for sharing the melts. Have a good day @ all.
Phillip Thiebjord thanks brother!!
This is really a well done video JW! Now I want to try this! Thanks for sharing!! DT
So you think its pure silver after burning? i dont think all copper burns off. But im not at end of video yet.
Awesome Silver
So you made 90% silver bars ? Or did I miss how you removed the impurities?
Exactly. Those bars are nowhere near .999 silver. Not even close. I hope they didn't get sold as 999 silver bars
That's kinda why it's stamped with "junk", which is commonly referred to as constitutional silver. 90%. It's worth 90% of spot price.
What can I do with my Junk gold Jewelry?
Junk gold jewelry would have to be chemically refined, and I haven't gotten close to that process yet :)
Cool
Hey bro very nice job on your pours well done good sir thanks for sharing kind regards Greg Lee.
Like the bars. Whays the cover charge 😆
Piece of leather and you can hold the bars in vise for edge lettering with no scratches on surface
JW, love your melting videos, keep em coming. Teach me something, what went wrong with the first pour/melt ?
So after the first melt, it still had pieces of the flux on top of it, so I wanted to get it off. But, in hindsight, I could've just left it and cleaned it off. Either way, the big bar will eventually be remelted to something cooler. Thanks for watching!!
@@JWsCoinsandHobbies Thanks for taking the time to let me know. To my naked untrained eye it is hard to tell. Love these videos, great job
nice. the machine proves to be useful.
Heck yeah! I love this thing!!
That was great!
I love.that funky bar with the crazy corner add charactet
Thanks Jonathon!! I kinda like it too, but maybe a remelt later on
Beaver road need a beaver crossing sign too 😀 how long did you tumble them ?
I tumbled them for an hour, but it didn't work like I wanted to, so I went straight to the wire brush.
JW's Coins and Hobbies I’m not sure how long they need to be tumbled but on antique glass bottles they tumble for days with copper shot
@@mustangdave434 good to know, I thought about doing some rocks just for fun as well since I have it
What did the rings wrong
Interesting I think I'll just keep my junk silver coins as they are. Interesting to see how you do it,. I can see melting rings and other non coin related silver down into bars.
I have some old junk foreign silver coins that are also mixed with copper and I wonder about melting them down to " skim" the copper off and make mostly pure silver bars ? Or does it take a more professional smelting approach to do that ?
@@denp54z check you tube as there probably have uploads to show you how to do it. Personally, I would not advise doing it as unless someone has a way of measuring how pure the silver you have and it's weight, it is just easier to trade the junk silver as it is as just about everyone knows it's value.
@@denp54z Dilute Nitric acid boil, then cool and cement the silver out with copper. That will get you close to 99.9 if you want 99.99 then you have to take it to the next step and build a silver cell. Nitric acid is pretty dangerous stuff and takes quite a bit of knowledge to safely use and dispose of. If I wasn't versed in chemistry I would just cuppel it and get it close to 99% pure. The problem with that is you will need to have it tested to know the purity, so you would need someone with an XRF scanner willing to scan it. I wouldn't melt down coins as they are pre assayed and more likely to be trusted. I work with broken gold and silver jewlery so melting it or dissolving it in acid is no big deal.
@@PHUCKyoutube689 I have used a Nitric Acid solution to clean silver coins/bars of rust stains and other crud but never used it for anything else.
There is so much labor, time and materials used to "reclaim silver" it almost seems not to be worth it.
Yeah gold has a higher pay out but silver not so much.
Good job
JUNK!? next time you better put constitutional on em! lol
But it's considered junk silver :)
wada still believe in santa too? theres no such thing as junk silver man lol
know you know how the lone ranger felt trying to cast silver bullets
How can I turn sterling silver into .999% silver? Or is that not a thing?
I think there are multiple ways to do it but I've seen acids used. It looked kindof complicated. Check out videos on RUclips it looks really cool watching the silver form like an ice crystal out of the solution.
Nice video. I'm not what the purity of the silver was, but I would bet it wasn't over 85%. Lower purity of silver, can make the bars come out black. Your silver may have been hot enough when you took it out of the crucible, but you need to pour about 3 times faster than you did. The silver was hardening in seconds, because the temperature was too low. But still a good video!!
I'm getting ready to buy one of these devil forges. I want to do this exact same thing to melt down .925 silver. Any very important things you've learned since you've got the furnace?
I like silver
Don't we all!
Hmmm. Your little rounds look like my first test round/coin that I carry in wallet. What do they weigh? About 2.0 - 2.5 grams?
Not sure the smallest one in this vid, but usually the smallest I can pour is about 20grams
@@JWsCoinsandHobbies 20grams ? That's huge compared to what I'm trying to produce.
I'm trying to make $1 .999fs coins...
But that's only about 1.2 grams and my rounds are TINY....
So.. I'm going to start testing bimetallic with silver plug in a copper coin to get better sizing.
I did a 5gram round last night...but fucked it up when I stamped too hard and tried to press out the dents.
Oh well... I'm very new and I'll master it eventually.
I have no clue how to use cnc engraver I bought... Do I'm probably going to have to go back to original plan and have some dies made and use my press.
Everybody in the comments: “I can’t believe you can’t pour molten metal at home correctly like a foundry” , “came here expecting to learn how to cast silver, Dissapointed”
Creator: *likes comment*
If you're going to do something and publish it on the internet......... Do a decent job... The problem is we have hacks that don't realize that the views are worth more than the silver.
That’s 11 minutes 19 seconds, that I will never get back.
Green = Go! 😁. Great video JW! OG22 🥳🥳🥳
OG22 my brother!! Thanks!
pouring too slowly and moulds not preheated enough is why they keep not looking right after you pour
also probably not getting forge hot enough either
All of you people judging him in the comments, let's see you try pouring molten metal lol
Yeah it's tough. I remember back when I refined and had a stash of silver nitrate pellets I refined to pure silver it took alot of pours to get them looking great. I started practicing with lead. But in the end it dont matter cause the refiner I sold to just remelted them all into one big bar anyways lol
I think this guy is a genius
Not I. I think he's dealing with 2000 degrees, a different person that pours mentioned how hot it was. I just watch, and I'm scared to get burnt. Think he did a nice job. Will say I loved the coin rings, but I he did what he had to do, to get the 999.
Pickles are the beavers favorite food. Lol
You have the street and we have the liquor store called Beaver Liquors
In LOUISIANA AYY??
@@mrmarmellow555 buffalo ny
Nice
Im no expert, but weres the borax on first melts. Thats why yr bars are black
I know what it is, an upside down dog.