if you use a non sodium based electrolite , are you also makeing silver cloride in salution? silver nitrate will work better , you will need nitric acid to make
@@Glasshopper i would add scrap silver to niyric acid ,, i used about a 67% nitric acid ,,cheapest ,below 68% save on haz mat shipping, add the scrap silver to acid , till all the acid is used up an just a small pc of silver is left then i cut with bottaled water ,, put in 8 000 ml stainless bowl use about 3 to 4 v dc about 2 amps the bowl is the cathod , an the dirty silver is the anoid on top ,about 2 weeks run time , made about 3 kg .99999 silver cristal in lasr batch, if electrolite gets too dirty ,i just cemented out the silver from
I have silver plated screws 1/4”long x 1/8” thick! Could I use a stainless mesh ladle for anode? Process is by the ladle and just shake the ladle in a rinse pot then repeat?
If you used a similar battery charger but it had a switch that put out a higher amperage, would that be beneficial? After you get all your flakes together, don't you melt them, or is there anything else that needs to be done?
How do you do bigger items, e.g. tea pot, tea tray or a goblet etc, would you cut them into smaller pieces? Why are you not doing multiple items together?
I would do the same process except put the silver items in a bucket full of tap water and around 3 cups of salt and mix that up good! Hope this helps!!!
Ive smashed antique silver plate items with a hammer and just knocked off most of the plate. Older items usually have a nice thick plating. Then after use the smashed items and go ahead and do this methd to recover whats left. Then smelt the left over brass/copper items into bricks for fun. Any bright and shiny non magnetic brass alloy will get you 3-4 bucks a pound scrap in my area.
Will this harm gold? I accidentally got silver plating solution on a really nice gold and silver ring (David yurman style banding) and I can’t figure out how to get the silver plating off the single gold band that runs through the middle of the ring 😢😭
I've done some colloidal silver and this current is much stronger to strip the metal faster. You can make colloidal gold in the same fashion, so I'd imagine you'd strip both gold and silver. Please let us know if you've found a way?
Does any of the silver plate onto the stainless knife? Could you possibly use a method like this to do gold? I've seen this method, with using copper anode, but that plates onto the copper itself. Would there be a way to get gold plated items to flake off into the solution like this?
I have been tempted to toss all my silver plated items into pot and melt it all down,I was wondering that when in a melted state if silver separates from the base metal. there has got to be an easier way to separate silver off the base metal. Do you know anyone who has done this?
the silver will not separate, it will alloy with the base metal. However this lump of metal can be put through electrolysis to remove everything but the silver.
I hooked up jumper cables to my alternator and hooked up the cables to the silver in the water and it did wonders (lots more amps) I never tried it with salt
@@ashrutherford1855 I just tried charging from car battery. I was busy doing something else at the time so absent mindedly just turned car off and forgot to disconnect. An hour later!!! Went to my car and saw the wster, now black, still churning. Lucky car still started but anyway my silver plated spoon and fork had started to melt. Do I just chuck it all or is there a way to still recover the silver. I know many will say it is a waste of time for a few pennies but I have all the time in the world. Any suggestions on what to do with this glob will be welcomed.
I think if you're doing it to make money it's not really going to prove worthwhile however, if you're doing it as a hobby and wishing to use the silver on something else, then it is probably intrinsically of interest. Remember also, what you pay for silver is not the same as what you sell it for.
In a lot of cases just selling a plated piece on Ebay as a replacement item will yield a better profit than stripping the tiny bit of silver on some pieces, but do what you like I guess.
Ok so it’s reverse electroplating? I think you could polish this video up a bit as far as keeping it to the essential informative elements first and and then expanding further with in-the-moment commentary. I know you’re not in it to be a famous RUclipsr but your video is in top results for informative content on the specific subject, and could use a 3 minute overview of the steps material etc, and a final few minute closing summary. Meh, even a few power point slides displayed for several seconds lol. It would elevate the utility of the video Thanks for the information regardless, I just had to rewatch and take notes lmao.
Can't plate across! In the presence of chloride ions (from the salt) any silver that would get into solution would immediately precipitate as AgCl, which is extremely insoluble in water. I would expect some of the silver to be in this form, and separated by filtration and treated with NaOH and sugar to recover the metal.
It would be nice before someone to make sure the info is correct any 1st year chemistry student knows better never mix stainless steel and tap water chorine and voltage it erodes the stainless and creates a green mess and makes any silver non refining and waist the silver throughout 45 years of silver plate recovery experience do your homework safety 1st never put yourself in a unsafe and unhealthy situation tap water stainless steel chorine is a bad cocktail that is unhealthy situataion
you can produce chlorine gas with salt water as the electrolyte deff need to vent it.. without the salt and just h20 your positive is producing oxygen and the negative is producing hydrogen and in a gas form those are mixed creating browns gas which is insanely explosive
The charger I got from HF does not work with this setup, only turns on to work with batteries.? Which kind of charger do I need? I think the newer ones don't work on this!
I have a charger from harbor freight I use for electrolsis. you have to connect the charger to the battery terminals than run wire from the charger clamps to the stuff you deplating than you can unhook the clamps from the battery. your pretty much fooling the charger.
Joshua Little ; are you saying that you connected the charger to your car battery then led a wire to the items that are in the salt water solution? Oh yea, what type of wire did you use?
this works but In the far run it cost more then its worth. how ever in the end if you get some flatware that is brass you can recycle it and get some good money or polish it up and sell it online as brass flatware witch brings good money
I have found that when I have not allowed the plated item to remain in the reverse electrolysis system sufficiently long enough to easily remove all silver, and place it back in, addition silver seems to precipitate onto the partially de-plated item. Any thoughts from the community?
Thanks for watching. This method uses a electrical current to separate the silver from the base metal. make sure the ground (black) is on the stainless steel and positive is on the plated item. Maybe mess around with the amount of salt used. Try less salt. I let it sit in there for at least 10 minutes before scraping. Maybe your container is too big. Try a smaller container which will put the two metals closer together. Let me know if you get it to work.
+Guy Foster I'm using a bucket because it's bigger items. I'll try putting the items closet and less salt. either way I'll let you know how it goes. thank you for the input .
it's only $2 of silver if your silver is 99.99% pure. If you didn't refine it before melting it, you have no idea what the purity of it is. At the very best, it's close to sterling and that's only 92.5% pure.
Never use tap water as with all chorine and stainless steel and voltagewill cause the stainless to erode and create green slime and create non usable silver mixed with eroded stainless and the fumes are dangerous or chorine sulfide
No need for more current just takes more time.actually this amount of current is not even necessary. I'm using a busted electric shaving charger right now that's 4v 70ma. Removing it isn't the hard part, recovering it and isolating it from other minerals then smelting it into.999 is the difficult part. But eventually after about $20 electricity, $55-$200 chemicals, months of learning, countless failed attempts, disastrous messes, unbearable frustration, beginning signs of male pattern baldness, and blackened gross looking silver nitrate staned hands, you can have your own little silver button. A button worth maybe twenty dollars to anyone else but not to you..... Nah, to you this silver represents more than your grandmas cutlery... That silver button you had to have was paid for with your dignity, pride, self worth, marrage, your entire fuckin life was the cost of that silver!! And that tiny button of silver, polished to a brilliant white shine from his old leathery, war scared fingers was all they found in his pockets the night they found his remains in the front yard of the house he lived in almost 16 years earlier...
an hour of work + electricity, = paying at least $100 and change for a hobby i guess thanks for saving me the time.. i am gonna throw these forks and spoons away. ha!
Hmmm, i have deplated dozens of items with no problems. I have noticed that some brands have very thin layers of silver on their items and yielded almost nothing. Make sure the stainless steel item is connected to the ground (black) and silverplated item is positive. The silver never really falls off. It separates from the base metal and then needs to be scraped off. Im sorry you are having trouble.
You likely have a "new" style charger. They have electronics in them for safety reasons. Get one that is not digital and it will work. You can also just use a car battery
Tried this with a deep cycle marine battery. My charger won't work unless it's hooked to a battery...ANYWAYS, my water solution became EXTREMELY yellow. Way beyond how it is in your video... what gives?
Also, I didn't even have to scratch the silver off. I dipped the silverplatted spoon in, and looked like 3 minutes later and it was just a straight copper spoon lol..i don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong though.. except the electrical source being too big?
Finally someone who is doing a method that makes sense.
if you use a non sodium based electrolite , are you also makeing silver cloride in salution? silver nitrate will work better , you will need nitric acid to make
I was going to ask.
(Posting to hear the answer)
@@Glasshopper i would add scrap silver to niyric acid ,, i used about a 67% nitric acid ,,cheapest ,below 68% save on haz mat shipping, add the scrap silver to acid , till all the acid is used up an just a small pc of silver is left then i cut with bottaled water ,, put in 8 000 ml stainless bowl use about 3 to 4 v dc about 2 amps the bowl is the cathod , an the dirty silver is the anoid on top ,about 2 weeks run time , made about 3 kg .99999 silver cristal in lasr batch, if electrolite gets too dirty ,i just cemented out the silver from
can you add more salt and keep using the same solution ? and how often (or ) after how many utensils?
can you use this same process for gold plated items ?
Maybe my item was vermeil but I didn't have same result. No flaking anyway
@@nicholaslibby1515 thank you
I have silver plated screws 1/4”long x 1/8” thick! Could I use a stainless mesh ladle for anode? Process is by the ladle and just shake the ladle in a rinse pot then repeat?
If you used a similar battery charger but it had a switch that put out a higher amperage, would that be beneficial?
After you get all your flakes together, don't you melt them, or is there anything else that needs to be done?
Thank you so very much. Excellent way of doing depleting.
How do you do bigger items, e.g. tea pot, tea tray or a goblet etc, would you cut them into smaller pieces? Why are you not doing multiple items together?
I would do the same process except put the silver items in a bucket full of tap water and around 3 cups of salt and mix that up good!
Hope this helps!!!
Ive smashed antique silver plate items with a hammer and just knocked off most of the plate. Older items usually have a nice thick plating. Then after use the smashed items and go ahead and do this methd to recover whats left. Then smelt the left over brass/copper items into bricks for fun. Any bright and shiny non magnetic brass alloy will get you 3-4 bucks a pound scrap in my area.
Will this harm gold? I accidentally got silver plating solution on a really nice gold and silver ring (David yurman style banding) and I can’t figure out how to get the silver plating off the single gold band that runs through the middle of the ring 😢😭
I've done some colloidal silver and this current is much stronger to strip the metal faster. You can make colloidal gold in the same fashion, so I'd imagine you'd strip both gold and silver. Please let us know if you've found a way?
Gold plate over the silver would be easier
Does any of the silver plate onto the stainless knife? Could you possibly use a method like this to do gold? I've seen this method, with using copper anode, but that plates onto the copper itself. Would there be a way to get gold plated items to flake off into the solution like this?
Can you smelt it after you scrape it off? If not why do you have to put it back in the water and filter it?
I have been tempted to toss all my silver plated items into pot and melt it all down,I was wondering that when in a melted state if silver separates from the base metal. there has got to be an easier way to separate silver off the base metal. Do you know anyone who has done this?
the silver will not separate, it will alloy with the base metal. However this lump of metal can be put through electrolysis to remove everything but the silver.
I hooked up jumper cables to my alternator and hooked up the cables to the silver in the water and it did wonders (lots more amps) I never tried it with salt
what about just hooking jumper cables to your car battery?
what about just hooking jumper cables to your car battery?
should work!
same idea, less power but should work, just have the car on or it'll die
@@ashrutherford1855 I just tried charging from car battery. I was busy doing something else at the time so absent mindedly just turned car off and forgot to disconnect. An hour later!!! Went to my car and saw the wster, now black, still churning. Lucky car still started but anyway my silver plated spoon and fork had started to melt. Do I just chuck it all or is there a way to still recover the silver.
I know many will say it is a waste of time for a few pennies but I have all the time in the world. Any suggestions on what to do with this glob will be welcomed.
I wonder if after all that time if it is worth it bye the time you pay for the elec. and silver plate items if you do come out a head
I think if you're doing it to make money it's not really going to prove worthwhile however, if you're doing it as a hobby and wishing to use the silver on something else, then it is probably intrinsically of interest. Remember also, what you pay for silver is not the same as what you sell it for.
Does it matter if the stainless is magnetic or non magnetic?
Same question
Stainless steel should not be magnetic, if it is then it's just plain old tin
At 12V 6Amp laptop power supply will work. I use them for battery chargers
do you know how to do that with gold, without harsh chemicals.
In a lot of cases just selling a plated piece on Ebay as a replacement item will yield a better profit than stripping the tiny bit of silver on some pieces, but do what you like I guess.
If you want to refine karat gold you need silver. Having a source of silver is very beneficial.
@addisceredebemusdocere250 thank you😊
Ok so it’s reverse electroplating?
I think you could polish this video up a bit as far as keeping it to the essential informative elements first and and then expanding further with in-the-moment commentary. I know you’re not in it to be a famous RUclipsr but your video is in top results for informative content on the specific subject, and could use a 3 minute overview of the steps material etc, and a final few minute closing summary. Meh, even a few power point slides displayed for several seconds lol.
It would elevate the utility of the video
Thanks for the information regardless, I just had to rewatch and take notes lmao.
Can you still recycle the bass metal after you remove the silver?
yes
Hey how to recover silver if dilluted in hcl acid ???
Sir how do you silver polish on steel pot?
So the silver just goes into the water? I thought this process would make the silver plate to the stainless, just moving from one to the other
Can't plate across! In the presence of chloride ions (from the salt) any silver that would get into solution would immediately precipitate as AgCl, which is extremely insoluble in water. I would expect some of the silver to be in this form, and separated by filtration and treated with NaOH and sugar to recover the metal.
It would be nice before someone to make sure the info is correct any 1st year chemistry student knows better never mix stainless steel and tap water chorine and voltage it erodes the stainless and creates a green mess and makes any silver non refining and waist the silver throughout 45 years of silver plate recovery experience do your homework safety 1st never put yourself in a unsafe and unhealthy situation tap water stainless steel chorine is a bad cocktail that is unhealthy situataion
you can produce chlorine gas with salt water as the electrolyte deff need to vent it.. without the salt and just h20 your positive is producing oxygen and the negative is producing hydrogen and in a gas form those are mixed creating browns gas which is insanely explosive
Interesting, but what about the energy and time?
If you want to refine karat gold you need silver. Having a source of silver is very beneficial.
The charger I got from HF does not work with this setup, only turns on to work with batteries.? Which kind of charger do I need? I think the newer ones don't work on this!
I have a charger from harbor freight I use for electrolsis. you have to connect the charger to the battery terminals than run wire from the charger clamps to the stuff you deplating than you can unhook the clamps from the battery. your pretty much fooling the charger.
I just did it straight off my car battery, no charger. Just disconnected the negative car lead first. Yes, it was outdoors on a fairly nice day.
Mel Arroyo So I am assuming that it worked..right? Did you get a similar reaction/ outcome, or better?
Joshua Little ; are you saying that you connected the charger to your car battery then led a wire to the items that are in the salt water solution? Oh yea, what type of wire did you use?
Is it work for gold ?
That was cool. Thanks! Seems like two much work though.
this works but In the far run it cost more then its worth. how ever in the end if you get some flatware that is brass you can recycle it and get some good money or polish it up and sell it online as brass flatware witch brings good money
It's mostly just for fun anyway. The brass idea is good one.
This is just a demo... DUH !
If you really want to make money ?
You've got to go bigger !
Does this work with gold teeth?
Teeth shouldn't be plated. Gold teeth should be solid gold
I have found that when I have not allowed the plated item to remain in the reverse electrolysis system sufficiently long enough to easily remove all silver, and place it back in, addition silver seems to precipitate onto the partially de-plated item. Any thoughts from the community?
Same here
I don't know how yours just peals off. mine doesnt. any ideas ?
Thanks for watching. This method uses a electrical current to separate the silver from the base metal. make sure the ground (black) is on the stainless steel and positive is on the plated item. Maybe mess around with the amount of salt used. Try less salt. I let it sit in there for at least 10 minutes before scraping. Maybe your container is too big. Try a smaller container which will put the two metals closer together. Let me know if you get it to work.
+Guy Foster I'm using a bucket because it's bigger items. I'll try putting the items closet and less salt. either way I'll let you know how it goes. thank you for the input .
mine doesn't work
it's only $2 of silver if your silver is 99.99% pure. If you didn't refine it before melting it, you have no idea what the purity of it is. At the very best, it's close to sterling and that's only 92.5% pure.
90% is coin silver. So if you consider coinage as quality silver then 92+ qualifies
reaction is called electrolysis
If silver ever goes to $600 an ounce, this process will be worthwhile!
If you want to refine karat gold you need silver. Having a source of silver is very beneficial.
Never use tap water as with all chorine and stainless steel and voltagewill cause the stainless to erode and create green slime and create non usable silver mixed with eroded stainless and the fumes are dangerous or chorine sulfide
has anyone tried with bigger silverplated items
It should work with more current
No need for more current just takes more time.actually this amount of current is not even necessary. I'm using a busted electric shaving charger right now that's 4v 70ma. Removing it isn't the hard part, recovering it and isolating it from other minerals then smelting it into.999 is the difficult part.
But eventually after about $20 electricity, $55-$200 chemicals, months of learning, countless failed attempts, disastrous messes, unbearable frustration, beginning signs of male pattern baldness, and blackened gross looking silver nitrate staned hands, you can have your own little silver button. A button worth maybe twenty dollars to anyone else but not to you..... Nah, to you this silver represents more than your grandmas cutlery... That silver button you had to have was paid for with your dignity, pride, self worth, marrage, your entire fuckin life was the cost of that silver!!
And that tiny button of silver, polished to a brilliant white shine from his old leathery, war scared fingers was all they found in his pockets the night they found his remains in the front yard of the house he lived in almost 16 years earlier...
an hour of work + electricity, = paying at least $100 and change for a hobby i guess
thanks for saving me the time.. i am gonna throw these forks and spoons away. ha!
If ur going to just throw it sway then just send them to me I'll give them a good home! Seriously
Not sure how you got 100$ unless you're talking the price of the battery charger.
HAS ANYONE GOT THIS TO WORK ???? I HAVE TRIED WITH A BRAND NEW BATTERY CHARGER . H20 AND SALT ............ZERO NOTHING HAPPENED ...........
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IM DOING WRONG???
Hmmm, i have deplated dozens of items with no problems. I have noticed that some brands have very thin layers of silver on their items and yielded almost nothing. Make sure the stainless steel item is connected to the ground (black) and silverplated item is positive. The silver never really falls off. It separates from the base metal and then needs to be scraped off. Im sorry you are having trouble.
a smaller container will bring the two metals closer together which might help. Give that a shot and let us know if you get it to work.
SO THE SMALLER THE BETTER???
You likely have a "new" style charger. They have electronics in them for safety reasons. Get one that is not digital and it will work. You can also just use a car battery
Tried this with a deep cycle marine battery. My charger won't work unless it's hooked to a battery...ANYWAYS, my water solution became EXTREMELY yellow. Way beyond how it is in your video... what gives?
Also, I didn't even have to scratch the silver off. I dipped the silverplatted spoon in, and looked like 3 minutes later and it was just a straight copper spoon lol..i don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong though.. except the electrical source being too big?
@@rodneygreenwaymusic sounds like you left it in the solution to long and the base metal started coming off too.
All that work and time for 5 bucks profit
thats a lot of work for so little. not worth it.
Don’t forget the electricity bill
“No toxic fumes”: hey buddy, you are creating chlorine gas using chlorinated water and salt- it can kill ya.
If he's on a well its not chlorinated.
I could have used sand paper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"If you do the math, 3.7 grams at 50 cents a gram is well over $2.00"? Did you fail grade 4 math?
Sir how do you silver polish on steel spoon?