@@fallenslave6684 how has he made an "entire career" out of a few minutes of footage of this woman in particular? Louis Theroux has professionally covered diverse topics through various mediums since 1992 and gained critical success long before he came in contact with the WBC.
As soon as Jael says "she was a liar, hon," it shows that she's gotten defensive, like she's struggling with the human side of suddenly rejecting a friend
Yeah, it's awful. In the original documentary she comes across as a rather sweet, charming young woman who's struggling a little to put on this face that she's been brainwashed into. In this follow-up, there's still something there but a lot of the humanity seems to have gone and any possible signs of inner conflict have seemingly disappeared. So sad.
All human beings deserve death?, I question if she is in the correct role as a nurse, caring for people, and already thinking that they are destined for hell, it is quite obvious her heart is not with the people she has the responsibility to look after, all I can say is God help us.
why hilarious ? They are allowed to watch or read what they want , that is what is so interesting about it. They haven't been totally shut out, in fact the reason she finally left the cult was because of a relationship on Twitter.
But yet the girl and her family talk about serving God and doing God's judgment by picketing at places and protesting at places that are an inconvenience to others; hurt other people even worse emotionally because that's what they think God wants them to do. So they in face do have pride and take pride in what they do, so the question is, does this family deserve death? Yes. She just answered her own question.
Yea, that got me confused as well! Punishment of God when you step on a road bom in middle eastern, but hey I will take care of you if you are sick... But searching for logic in this family is lost on me anyway
@@aubreyt.copeland5019 I don't know.. Nurses aren't paid that well in America and she seems to be pretty smart when you hear her talk (besides the obvious brainwash) so yea, I think she genuinely picked this because she likes it? Still weird though
There's an interview with her a couple years after this and she actually shows herself to be a pretty empathetic person towards her patients and even cries over the memory of one of them suffering. She's not evil.
Yep. Jury's out on whether or not you choose to be evil, but it's pretty rare a person chooses to be brainwashed. It kind of defeats the purpose. Cults are kinda messed, yo.
Well look at the animal word. Look what humans do. Look at the porn industry. Tobaco industry Cancer caused by adultery and smoking and how manny animals are instinght. And you still think that humans are not sinners and worthy of death? You have blind eyes my friend. Let Jesus open them!
She doesn’t mind dwelling on other peoples sins but won’t talk about her own. They’re so delusional I pity them what a sad reality it must be for people in the church. You can tell that pastor Phelps is an evil vindictive old bogey.
You can see Jael slowly morphing into Shirley... Physically and being more defensive and aggressive in her responses and using the word 'hon'... Creepy and sad.
no, no... you dont get to do that. THEY are not giving christians a "bad name". they are doing exactly what the bible instructs them to do to the letter. CHRISTIANITY ITSELF and the abrahamic god is whats giving christians a bad name
At least in "They live" (1988), they had to wear special glasses to see the real nature of the many ads everywhere and what that peculiar society expected from them. Here, she unapologetically wears the message straight on her t-shirt.
Two questions: 1. If God makes all these judgements, how do they know the difference between a judgement of God & something that's just an unfortunate event? 2. ruclips.net/video/39j-vUDBJE4/видео.html 1:29 mins in How can God be terrible & jealous & vengeful as well as merciful & loving? I mean, think about it. Who in their right mind would respect & want to hang out with someone who is terrible, jealous & vengeful?
Am I wrong for actually feeling horrible that she believes this so genuinely? Imagine waking up and after seeing the face of God, and he says depart from me. May God soften her heart.
My God, Jesus never taught in the way this church teaches, he was graceful, humble, merciful and kind. Jesus came to save and not to condemn...who are you to condemn others you are not God...Teach in the way that is taught in the bible your approach is not right and true to Gods will...vengence is the Lords and not your own...Jesus healed the sick, the lame, forgave and had mercy on a thief, he never said served your right or you deserve to die...how can you say you serve a God and Jesus if your approach shows no love or mercy but depicts hate for the very people believers are called to save. Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, 2 but early the next morning he was back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them. 3 As he was speaking, the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd. 4 “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?” 6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!”8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust. 9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?” 11 “No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.” John 8:1-11
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One circle after another. Just talking and talking their way around a verbal spiral. Straw-man to the core
The way they all recite bible verses. Everything that comes out of their mouths sounds so rehearsed. It’s annoying and shows many signs of being brainwashed.
Look up Westboro Baptist Church. Yeah, it's a cult, composed mostly of members of one family. They hate everyone. Real Baptists have disowned them. They've done some really despicable things.
Lauren Drain, daughter of now former member Steve Drain. Steve kicked Lauren out of their home for going against some of the church's teachings a couple years before this documentary was released. I guess Lauren and Jael were pretty close friends at one point, but once she got excommunicated Jael basically pretended like she never existed. Such is the way of cults.
No. This is a tiny group, at the time only around 80 people. There theology is Hyper - Calvinistic and very niche. This is what Fred Phelps does to people
Not this Cult! Reminds me more of a Satanic cult, the way they behave! Even Devil knows the Scriptures, except he twists them, just as these people do!
That's true, that's true she is right we all do deserve death and everlasting punishment. We're nothing but trash and filthy rags needed to be thrown in the dumpster and burned up.
not quite THAT bad... we all will die, immortality is still WAY out of reach, but science is still advancing... 150 years might be the new norm of the next century... and then higher and higher? but never immortal, we need more than a few species changes first
So the reporter makes an entire footage, on hateing and bullying this woman. Who actually. Tells the truth about the Bible. And tells that Jesus can save you from the danger what is going to come. Inteligent! Wow! You sir deserve a medal. I am sure you are satisfied with yourself.
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"I'll take that as a Yes." Smooth Louis...
00:20 that laugh came from the heart. A rare moment of truth.
It's weird how she talks about human benigs as "they" rather than us or we
u still don't know what they are?
arsam kiani
what
Is she a terminator?
Is it not weird how this reporter makes an entire career by hating her and bullying her?
@@fallenslave6684 how has he made an "entire career" out of a few minutes of footage of this woman in particular? Louis Theroux has professionally covered diverse topics through various mediums since 1992 and gained critical success long before he came in contact with the WBC.
As soon as Jael says "she was a liar, hon," it shows that she's gotten defensive, like she's struggling with the human side of suddenly rejecting a friend
It's a shame that Jael is still a member there. I bet if she left she would be much more of a beautiful person inside and out.
For somebody who says that pride has no place in serving god, she seems fairly proud about disowning her friend.
yeah they look very prideful to go out in the world to tell people that God hates (insert random thing here)
+BrontoSmilodon1 "God hates Bowel Movements "
@@autumnasters "God Hates Burger King"
@@SilhouetteJudas "God hates boiled eggs."
A bunch of crazy hypocritical fanatics , I'm so fucking happy I wasnt born into a family like that
She actually sounds like her mum. That's a very very bad thing in this case.
Yeah, it's awful. In the original documentary she comes across as a rather sweet, charming young woman who's struggling a little to put on this face that she's been brainwashed into. In this follow-up, there's still something there but a lot of the humanity seems to have gone and any possible signs of inner conflict have seemingly disappeared. So sad.
The woman in the documentaries is not her mom. Her mom hasn't appeared in any media or TV shows.
Shirley does have a monotone voice. Unlike her Pops He has got a Hillbilly twang.
With that profile picture... I am sure I will listen to your advice. Big boy!
@@fallenslave6684 dude, ure completly brainwashed too, just.live ur damn life and try to open up on others topics than these nonsense
All human beings deserve death?, I question if she is in the correct role as a nurse, caring for people, and already thinking that they are destined for hell, it is quite obvious her heart is not with the people she has the responsibility to look after, all I can say is God help us.
Pride has no place in serving God yet she is proud of that tragically ugly bedroom she spends so much time in...
Anyone else notice she has the book Breaking Dawn on her shelf from the Twilight series? I find that hilarious 😆
I find it hilarious that your joy comes from mocking and ridiculing this precious woman!
why hilarious ? They are allowed to watch or read what they want , that is what is so interesting about it. They haven't been totally shut out, in fact the reason she finally left the cult was because of a relationship on Twitter.
@@darkmysterytemple Megan is the one who left because of twitter, Jael is the woman in this video & she's still in the WBC.
It’s so funny how he asks questions. He asks them the simple questions that really hit the spot and get them to say stupid shit.
It's so sad that these kids were taught not to have any emotion but hatred because their grandfather was schizophrenic................
But yet the girl and her family talk about serving God and doing God's judgment by picketing at places and protesting at places that are an inconvenience to others; hurt other people even worse emotionally because that's what they think God wants them to do. So they in face do have pride and take pride in what they do, so the question is, does this family deserve death? Yes. She just answered her own question.
Unless I heard wrong...
Jael: is a nurse
Also Jael: says all humans deserve to die
???
One word: paycheck.
Yea, that got me confused as well! Punishment of God when you step on a road bom in middle eastern, but hey I will take care of you if you are sick... But searching for logic in this family is lost on me anyway
@@aubreyt.copeland5019 I don't know.. Nurses aren't paid that well in America and she seems to be pretty smart when you hear her talk (besides the obvious brainwash) so yea, I think she genuinely picked this because she likes it? Still weird though
There's an interview with her a couple years after this and she actually shows herself to be a pretty empathetic person towards her patients
Maybe she means that humans aren't immortal and that we all die.
There's an interview with her a couple years after this and she actually shows herself to be a pretty empathetic person towards her patients and even cries over the memory of one of them suffering. She's not evil.
So what she said here was either a lie or she's over-exaggerating.
@@SilhouetteJudas it's her religion that has warped her mind
@@Joshua-dc1bs yep I’m sure she’s a competent and caring nurse and that’s where her core personality shines
Yep. Jury's out on whether or not you choose to be evil, but it's pretty rare a person chooses to be brainwashed. It kind of defeats the purpose. Cults are kinda messed, yo.
She's a victim of abuse.
Imagine walking into someone's room and seeing that shit painted on the walls. That was the part of the doc that was the most disturbing to me.
The room is awsome
"Pride has no place in serving God" -- this could be a quiz question like whether the Flanders' said it or the Westboro Baptist Church
‘Are you kind of rejoicing in these calamities?’
‘Definitely, definitely, yeah’
This really made me laugh
This girl probably doesnt watch porno... so she has to get her kicks from elsewhere LoL....
"All human beings deserve death because they were born sinners."
A philosophy to kill by...
Well look at the animal word. Look what humans do.
Look at the porn industry.
Tobaco industry
Cancer caused by adultery and smoking and how manny animals are instinght.
And you still think that humans are not sinners and worthy of death?
You have blind eyes my friend. Let Jesus open them!
@@fallenslave6684 lol what the fuck are you saying? You think everyone deserves to die because these things exist?? Wheres the logic in that
@@IamSuperEffective. The wages of sin is death. All humans have sinned so we deserve our wages, death. Deal with it
Well everybody is gonna die anyway so its not a matter of deserving it at all since there is no choice.
@@categories5066 Speak for yourself mate. You haven't exactly convinced me to die with that bullshit concept.
She doesn’t mind dwelling on other peoples sins but won’t talk about her own. They’re so delusional I pity them what a sad reality it must be for people in the church. You can tell that pastor Phelps is an evil vindictive old bogey.
Mr Theroux, it amazes me that you have such little views on all your videos on RUclips. All your docs/videos are great. Thanks!
She's a NURSE?
You can see Jael slowly morphing into Shirley... Physically and being more defensive and aggressive in her responses and using the word 'hon'... Creepy and sad.
I'm not a Christian but I feel sorry for all those Christians living in the modern world who are being given a bad name by these awful people
no, no... you dont get to do that. THEY are not giving christians a "bad name". they are doing exactly what the bible instructs them to do to the letter. CHRISTIANITY ITSELF and the abrahamic god is whats giving christians a bad name
Everything aside, at least she got that Obey shirt on, drip or drown 😎
Hopefully one day all the kids one day can find piece outside of that church and eventually the church won't be no more
hey, we need SOMEONE to at least match Rev. Phelps "STRAIGHT TO HELL!", i mean who has said it better than he?
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Who else would just skeet skeet skeet allover her face or is it just me?
Peace, love and Jesus? Or God, vengeance and damnation. How to hold two contradictory thoughts at the same time and believe in them both.
its easy enough when u realize there is a heaven and hell, NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES are proof enough for me
At least in "They live" (1988), they had to wear special glasses to see the real nature of the many ads everywhere and what that peculiar society expected from them. Here, she unapologetically wears the message straight on her t-shirt.
"All Human Beings Deserve Death" - Wow. Mother Theresa would be so proud.
unironically she would be. Mother Theresa was one evil human being.
@@nuck- Exactly my point. :)
want to give it a dislike and a like at the same time
Press them both at the same time then bro,it will work eventually
Wow! officially coo coo for coco puffs
she's gonna be that crazy old cat lady one day.
wha..i mean....it's just nonsense.
An extreme example of the dangerous influence of superstitious rubbish on the human psyche...
Jael looks like James from Team Rocket
The Obey shirt lol Tyler the Creator
Any psychologists or psychiatrists on here with an opinion? I’m very curious.
and the Devil said onto the Westboro Church "wow, you guys are a bit too mental for my liking.. I am out of here"
Two questions:
1. If God makes all these judgements, how do they know the difference between a judgement of God & something that's just an unfortunate event?
2. ruclips.net/video/39j-vUDBJE4/видео.html 1:29 mins in
How can God be terrible & jealous & vengeful as well as merciful & loving? I mean, think about it. Who in their right mind would respect & want to hang out with someone who is terrible, jealous & vengeful?
Am I wrong for actually feeling horrible that she believes this so genuinely? Imagine waking up and after seeing the face of God, and he says depart from me. May God soften her heart.
i concur with her last statements about pride, the rest i don't know.
My God, Jesus never taught in the way this church teaches, he was graceful, humble, merciful and kind. Jesus came to save and not to condemn...who are you to condemn others you are not God...Teach in the way that is taught in the bible your approach is not right and true to Gods will...vengence is the Lords and not your own...Jesus healed the sick, the lame, forgave and had mercy on a thief, he never said served your right or you deserve to die...how can you say you serve a God and Jesus if your approach shows no love or mercy but depicts hate for the very people believers are called to save.
Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, 2 but early the next morning he was back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them. 3 As he was speaking, the
teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught
in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd. 4 “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?” 6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!”8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust. 9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?” 11 “No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.” John 8:1-11
One circle after another. Just talking and talking their way around a verbal spiral. Straw-man to the core
why even bother give them air time ???
In her most recent interviews, Jael seems really conflicted and broken. What a shame 😔
I haven’t seen any recent ones 😢
Phelps, more like melts..
I like being an atheist
HER TIME WILL COME....
What's great is she has a TED talk about why she left the church
I think this is her Sister!
WHAT DID I JUST WATCHED! O.O
Just straight talking
January 15th, 2009 must have been a real downer for the cult members at WBC. 😕😕
"All human beings deserve death because they're born in sin"... I find this aspect in Christian religions especially messed up and simply complexing
Then don't birth me right
In other words ether join the cult or every human deserves death very selfish way of thinking, I hope someday she gets out of this terrible cult.
Louis Theroux wasted his precious time of his life away from his family by revisiting her.
Nope! At least one Daughter left due to his efforts!
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"only when its for B.B.C."
LOL
will M BBC = BRITISH BUGGERY ( of children ) Corporation 👿 evil entity
Rejoicing in death is mental! How is that serving God!?
What about Enoch and Elijah? Why did they not experience death?
I’m sure her husband sh/ts his pants when he hears her come home…
The way they all recite bible verses. Everything that comes out of their mouths sounds so rehearsed. It’s annoying and shows many signs of being brainwashed.
What a hypocrite. She talks about pride having no place with God but that's all these people are are prideful hateful with false doctrine
I also lol everyone there's a volcano erupt.
This is the first time I have seen this, so what is it? Just another human being going through their growth psychology? Is she part of a cult?
Look up Westboro Baptist Church. Yeah, it's a cult, composed mostly of members of one family. They hate everyone. Real Baptists have disowned them. They've done some really despicable things.
Well everyone dies, true
...anybody who has right thinking....
Sorry babe I have left thinking
Weirdo
THE BIBLE SAYS LOVE NO 1 BUT GOD YA'LL HATERS R ?? DUMB ( I don't know her history but this video she's good)
1:40 lauren who?
Lauren Drain, daughter of now former member Steve Drain. Steve kicked Lauren out of their home for going against some of the church's teachings a couple years before this documentary was released. I guess Lauren and Jael were pretty close friends at one point, but once she got excommunicated Jael basically pretended like she never existed. Such is the way of cults.
not gonna lie, she's attractive
Get glasses...she has a face like a man...transgender?
@@philjudd3473 she’s pretty in a plain unassuming way
Damn she’s low key cute tho, thinking about converting
Down bad..
Some dick would cure them
Awesome, my foot.
She is way too young to be interviewed
Sounds like a true Christian to me.
Jael smells now
Wow...this is what christianity does to people....scary
No. This is a tiny group, at the time only around 80 people. There theology is Hyper - Calvinistic and very niche. This is what Fred Phelps does to people
@@CherryDreamer96 That's not a great argument. JC started out with 12
The Phelps girls are thicc
She a clone of her mama. Be your own person, gurl
Fo real, dawg.
Nice to see that there are still real christians in this world.
Not this Cult! Reminds me more of a Satanic cult, the way they behave! Even Devil knows the Scriptures, except he twists them, just as these people do!
You must have watched the wrong video if that's the conclusion you reached.
That's true, that's true she is right we all do deserve death and everlasting punishment. We're nothing but trash and filthy rags needed to be thrown in the dumpster and burned up.
not quite THAT bad... we all will die, immortality is still WAY out of reach, but science is still advancing... 150 years might be the new norm of the next century... and then higher and higher? but never immortal, we need more than a few species changes first
Well said sister!
Steven Flamenco lol nice bait?
She's hot I reckon
Cuckoo. 👀🤪
Seems like such a good Christian
Pocket Man ýýýý
These are true Christians living their lives by the Bible
No, they're not.
So the reporter makes an entire footage, on hateing and bullying this woman. Who actually. Tells the truth about the Bible. And tells that Jesus can save you from the danger what is going to come.
Inteligent! Wow! You sir deserve a medal. I am sure you are satisfied with yourself.
God bless the WBC!