The Toxicity Already Starting Between Ricciardo and Tsunoda
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Seeing the toxicity between their respective fans in comment sections is a trip.
Tsunoda has fans? (Jk).
@@Irock2412 - yes but they’re all aged between 8 and 11. You know, about Yuki’s maturity level?
Yuki fans are mainly 12 year old anime fans who have yellow fever and fetishize him because hes japanese
@@Irock2412 yeah, oddly enough tsunoda fans are the most psychotic and delusional I've seen
@@PeterTeal77 I'm honestly getting those vibes more from some of the DannyRic fans, with how they are jumping to conclusions and not looking at the full picture...
Everyone knows that Max's Dad will replace Checo in the second Red Bull.
I want to see Max race half the season, get enough points to win the championship, tag team with Danny Ric, and get a 1-2-3 in the championship. Now THAT would be the clean sweep.
You know Ferrari, Mercedes and at least Mclaren would be funding that on the side
Lmao... Jos will have to take Max out when he's getting lapped by his son.
I've never liked Max's dad! He has always been a complete douch. If I was redbull I would ban his ass from the pits.
Nah man Jos is too blobby to fit in.. XD Cant rule it out though. In a world where maybe slimfast wants to sponsor that. A driver has to be rank un slank, able to be rolled up in a carpet and keep it straight.
As a Danny Ric fan, it pains me to say it. But if Checo starts bringing home regular podiums then the Ric / Yuki battle doesnt matter too much.
I would keep checo until Lawson is ready for red bull
It does matter because one of them will lose their seat to Lawson. And if one of RB juniors wins F2 they will surely promote them.
It does matter because one of them will lose their seat to Lawson. And if one of RB juniors wins F2 they will surely promote them.
@@tiagoferreira5368true, it matters for Yuki then. But at this stage of his career Daniel must go forward or what's even the point?
It's a 2025 seat at RBR or Merc for Daniel, if that doesn't pan out then he might as well have some fun in NASCAR or Aussie touring cars.
Lol he struggled against sainz in a track that was never good for ferrari. He will probably fumble easy podium even when driving a rocketship.
The real question is that why RB asked their drivers to swap positions when Max is about to lapped them both. Like it’s such a bad timing for swap position.
The new team principal just wanna replicate the chaos at ferrari....Franz Tost would never do that.....but he retires so the chaos comes back....
if yuki let daniel pass him when he was told to do so daniel would still have his tires and catch kmag before max got to them he slowed everybody down by hist stubbornes
They would have been fine if Tsunoda had done it instead of chucking a tantrum and delaying.
Lol, Daniel would have never caught Kevin. He got a meaningless position that he didn't deserve.
@@biljancanin Daniel had made up a nine second gap on Tsunoda and Magnussen. He also caught Magnussen again after losing time to the tantrum and the blue flag.
I think that neither Ricciardo nor Tsunoda will ever make it to Red Bull. By 2025, there will be other drivers available that will be better options.
Liam Lawson intensifies.
@@emelle1283I’m not the biggest fan of DR but this is a load of nonsense.
I agree, there’s much better options than an aging ricciardo and a hot headed tsunoda. I hope both have seats in the future!
@@jamesvoneschen6603 Alonso for example is literally a plug n play championship caliber driver.
I think if Christian ends up being ousted as team principle then there's no way into the team for Daniel. The only reason Daniel is in the position he is now is because of Horner.
The biggest issue no one is talking about is the fact that Yuki was P10 on merit at the start of the race and was only overtaken twice, one by Kmag coming out of the pits and then by DannyRic. RB ruined his race by leaving him out on a track with high deg known to have a powerful undercut and it happened twice with him getting caught out by Zhou, Magnussen and Stroll because of bad strategy. If that had never happened Yuki wouldn't have been in the same race as Ricciardo
Yuki absolutely is in the wrong for that cooldown dive, but overall Yuki got so screwed over by RB that race, Yuki had pace to fight for 11th if not points
Sounds like a Laurent Ferrari strategy. Haha
@@Unknown__LukeFrom the response after, it seems that the strategy was determined first, so Yuki had to stay out any way, that was locked in beforehand. Which sucks. Daniel also said he didn't request to be first, but it was a situation that was talked about before the race, because the situation with Dani on softs being faster in the end was already expected. Dani was frustrated because his softs were gone by the time he was ('finally', note the quotes) let past it was not important any more
So, Yuki being shafted is, yeah, true, but also a decision that was made before the race. So the decisions there matter more, and Yuki needs to pay attention to the strategy he locks himself into.
Yes, the position could be given back, but it's P11 / P12 so who cares. Yuki had lost 9 seconds to Dani, so Dani was clearly faster in this stage. So he lacks a bit of vision here (shouting 'he is not fast at all'). Also, the actions after the flag make sure that he will never get a chance to get further in his career. But Dani could've made the whole team a lot happier by giving the position back in the last lap.
daniel saying yuki was immature in interviews, and then telling the press “we all know how yuki is like” tbh, that’s not exactly what a mature team player would be saying either
I wish many people saw this lmao. He's supposed to be the mature one after throwing Yuki under the bus.
@@lejosukebby4107 he didn’t throw Yuki under the bus, Yuki dove in front of it himself
half of the driver's job is driving; the other half is public relations. I'm sure DR could have skipped over questions about YT, but that isn't good PR for the team, since the reporters are trying to get the story from each driver. There has always been drama in F1 btwn drivers/teammates; it's built into the culture. Problems w/the drivers start at the top w/the Team Principal, so that is where you go to first to rectify team issues. If the TP loses control of the team (drivers or crew), then the TP is not a good fit and needs to go. Clearly, the TP's authority has not been understood and he needs to solidify his place at the top through (a different course of) actions..........🏎️
we all know he has problems with anger, and hes been getting better at it, and i can imagine that hearing your teammate say that youre immature or that you have anger issues is like having a punch in the stomach
I'm not even joking when I say I came to RUclips 5 minutes ago looking if Aldas had posted a video about this specifically and he hadn't, walked away for a couple minutes, and BOOM
😂😂😂
you manifested this video
He’s the guy who predicted Uber Eats would beat Gasly in his rookie season.
i blame the team for screwing yuki out of a top ten place with crappy strategy again
Not surprised that Yuki fans blame other people for him being a whiny bitch who can't drive that good.
It's what he does too.
There’s no way he would have gotten 10th. As he couldn’t get passed K-Mag, but even if he was able to stay in front of K-Mag after the pit stop he still wouldn’t have beaten Stroll. Personally I actually think he’s lucky to be in F1 as I don’t think he’s that good. If it wasn’t for Honda he would have been drop in his first season
Deja vu
Funny how this is the best thing about this race 💀
It wasn’t really a race, it was an expensive parade, I switched over to the World Paint Drying Championships, next week I’m off to watch the finals of the British Shot Heading Tournament.
Were you watching Sainz?
@@Ryzard Nah, once I saw Max was gone by 6 years, I basically tapped out.
Good result for him, but far from enough to save this narcoleptic ahh race.
There was plenty to be seen during the race. You obviously didn’t watch.
@@trebm3 No there wasnt. Max won by ages, and the rest of stuff wasnt really that noteworthy aside from the Riccardo v Tsunoda drama.
Not sure what you saw in that race, but it sure as hell wasnt exciting.
Netflix and i are eating this up... Mmmm loving it.
Yuki radio will be the story of 2024 season.
Yuki vs RB will be the best DTS drama thus far
@@darrenho9564are you both sure you like F1 in depth of the sport or is the drama enough to get the upper hand in watching the opening race of 2024?
There wasn’t much to gain from that swap for P12.
Only thing that it creates is less collaboration between Yuki and Daniel plus Yuki forced to give up a position in the opening race FCOL!!
This is utterly pointless if you ask me…
@@raymonschepers994 F1 is boring AF when it's completely dominated by one driver lol. At least yuki's shenanigans (and occasional brilliance when the team doesn't screw him over) are something to look forward to.
Otherwise might as well watch paint dry, which would still be less predictable than the outcome of every race this season 🤷
@@darrenho9564spunkfinger says hi
RB should’ve asked them to re-swap positions before the finish line.
What would be the point? It’s P13-P14 so it would be useless.
I think Yuki showed disobedience, that's why they didn't let them swap back.
@@Timeforspas12exactly, Yuki nessed up the thing, he and his fans should take a note
In what time? Tsunoda's tantrum meant that Ricciardo only had two racing laps - including the last - to attack Magnussen. And why should Tsunoda be rewarded for fucking it up?
It doesn't matter if the positions were not giving any points, Yuki deserved his place in front of Ric. Remember Valteri letting Lewis trough, he then couldn't convert and gave the position back. Ric is a diva.
The thing is that Yuki was the only hope for points until they screwed the strategy on the last pit-stop, while Ricciardo was not even in the same race, then all of a sudden Yuki finds himself with a screeching Daniel behind, fighting for 13. On top of that, Daniel did not returned the place back - so stupid team strategy and favoritism made 1-0 for Ricciardo in races, while Yuki was the obvious faster driver.
I think they screwed Yuki on the 1st stop. Should have come in a lot sooner. He lost almost a second per lap for a few laps...
They did him dirty a lot this race...
Well, Yuki did get the position back, it was just one lap too late. 🤣
If Yuki had given it up immediately. Ricciardo wouldve gotten a better chance to overtake before getting blue flagged, but because i took him damn near 2 laps to give it up. Of course max got them. Yuki fucked the strat
@@josiahzuno8394Then why didn't the pr merchant overtake tsunoda? Maybe because he's washed up and is only good for marketing purposes.
Yuki is a man child
You missed the part where Danny had to let max through and lost 1 second to the haas.
yeah he skipped some pretty important points...
They all lost 1 second to Vers.
@@joshw.5034 But it was offset, meant that KMag was clear of the RB's for 2 laps extra
Sounds like an Aussie
It was P12, there was no need to swap positions. I feel for Tsunoda.
there was a need, if they can't score points then the higher the position the better
@@garbage2882lol not really at least for pilots
@@user-uq8ft4uo8u for the team there was, no one cares in a team what a driver thinks, it's for the benefit of the team
@@garbage2882exactly that’s the hole point, if he fails to overtake after the swap, the right thing to do is give the place back, this is done only for the drivers benefit, as for the team it makes no difference in the championship standings.
@@kevinpi7488yeah, I agree, but Tsunoda may have been a major factor in Ricciardo not being able to overtake, so he didn't deserve that place either
They should’ve kept Lawson.
Probably already offered Ricciardo a contract by that point
@@JWF111- yeah, they SHOULD have kept Lawson. And sacked Yuki.
@@anthony5868whoever loses this season is getting sacked for Lawson.
@@anthony5868 honda specifically wanted a japanese driver in red bull or in the sister team when they signed the contract. They cant just sack him. Atleast until ford power units come around. Believe I want Lawson too but also want yuki to stay. He ain't a bad driver but has a temper problem very quick to anger and that leads him to make big mistakes.
kick both Riccardo and Tsunoda out and just hire Lawson....he can race both cars.....
I've been a Ricciardo fan the whole time I've been watching F1, but Yuki also ranks high on my list of drivers. These team orders really frustrated me, as it's literally the first race, no points were up for grabs and they should just let their drivers race in the positions they earned.
Yea it was totally unnecessary in the end trying to go for P12. If they were trying to pass to score a single point, then by all means let the fresher tires get a crack at it.
Knowing Yuki, he'd probably wreck them both if Ric tried to pass him lol
RB made the wrong decision 🤷♂️ sure ric had pace but the softs fell off and Yuki stayed around half a sec behind ric for the test of the race
And why did the softs fall off? Because Tsunoda kept Ricciardo stuck behind him.
@walover165 nah, Kevin just made his ass as wide as he could. If Daniel attacked him even 3 laps earlier, he wouldn't have had a chance. Sometimes a driver can do that. Some drivers where a nightmare to overtake always. Jarno Trulli is the best example of that. Drive a line where it seems like your car is wider than it really is. It's not the fastest driving, but kewps other behind you. That's what Kevin did, in a freaking Haas
It doesn’t really matter whether it was the right decision or not. They are both trying to get that Perez seat and RedBull will be watching them closely this year. They want another driver like Perez who will just play the team game no matter what. If Yuki doesn’t listen to team orders or gets frustrated on the radio then that is not a good look for him. Imagine him in the RedBull seat not letting Max by. I don’t think that he did the right thing and he should have acted more professionally.
@@biljancanin Daniel would have had a tyre advantage and got by. Or at least had a better chance. And then also would have had more time to switch back.
Ric had softs in free air, it's obvious that he would've pace, but by the time he reached Yuki and K-Mag his softs were like 15 laps old
Ferrari engineers were saying that 8-10 laps in, the softs and the Hards should've close to the same pace (RB 20 excluded, because that car is Newey approved)
Tsunoda has consistently been faster than Ricciardo, thats all that should matter and I really get why hes been annoyed after all the narratives about Ricciardo to Red Bull ignoring Yuki, constant talk about how Yuki is only in F1 cause of Honda, and the team constantly screwing him with with strategy and otherwise. Constant disrespect and underestimation will get to you
I agree, but directing his frustrations at Ricciardo rather than the team is a bad look for him. Ideally he would not direct it at the team either and just save it for the post-race briefing (easier said than done). Overall, Yuki’s actions further develop the idea and narrative of his immaturity, only proving Redbull right and increasing their hesitation to sign him. It also compounds all of the things you listed. It’s a viscous cycle that he certainly has his fault in
a guy like Yuki needs to be a team player since there is not much else going for him. Unless he beat Daniel constantly he is just a liability for a team. Daniel does that and brings good pr and people love him and so on. That counts a lot in a team
Totally agree, Yuki is a great driver
@@daverudabut that's the thing, Yuki was faster than Ricciardo the whole Weekend, the team literally just screwed him over, with both strategy and useless team calls
Someone who gets it!
Neither one is going up to the big boy Red Bull team. Sainz will get Perez seat.
That's what Im hoping for. Sainz is ready to compete for a championship, and RB can give him a chance to do that.... The racing between Max and Sainz could be amazing (it could be Ham vs Nico type of racing).. But again, Max could just outrun him like he did with his other teammates.
Yuki will ❤
It would be the best outcome for Carlos, but i would not want to see him in a Max based team...
Max will destroy Sainz today in his team. Also Jos and Sainz Sr. have huge beef, lots of tension and drama btw the two from torro rosso days, it’s not gonna happen. Red Bull doesn’t need Sainz, they need a Second driver like Yuki
@@yt23-curl Fuk Jos, and Max will destroy anyone period.
The whole point is that a driver swap at that point was really pointless, so it’s a team failure first. Then down to YUKI being not able to follow team orders.
When are we gonna admit that Ricciardo is done
When are we gonna admit that Yuki is only there because Japanese teenage girls love him and Honda provides buckets of cash…
@@rosscato8745 that can be true too, I really don't care lol it's just time to face facts on DR3
@@Nick-qx1vf👍
@@rosscato8745 first of all that team is still present in the sport because of Honda and RedBull is wining thanks to Honda
so far Yuki shown better pace so I feel like Riccardo is a slower driver and he's there just because he was driving for their top team back in the days while in reality he is just an average driver like anyone else, Perez is no faster or slower than Ricciardo
@@rosscato8745 But do you think that Riccardo actually deserves to still be on the grid. Or are you just gonna deflect and berate Yuki?
at this point, its not only about the redbull's seats, its about their career, so I understand the yuki's frustration. Sure, he shouldn't do that move after the race, but ricciardo should reswap the position to yuki to make it fair and square. Importantly, all of this shouldn't happened if RB didn't screw up Yuki's strategy.
Why swap it, tho no points were up for grabs. It's a pointless move to fluff a drivers ego.
it is indeed pointless, but they care about win-lose record. I mean if they don't care about the h2h record, what is the measurement for the redbull seat? the official record would be ricciardo1-0 yuki, but it shouldn't be. that's my point and that's why yuki was furious too i imagine(also the strategy). Maybe I'm wrong, but logically makes sense. @@Thaumaturge2251
@@Thaumaturge2251that's the stupidity of it all...why screw up Yuki when there's no points to be made and no good enough tow to beat Zhou?
Seems to me to be significantly worse for his career to behave this way and show resistance to team orders than losing 1 place outside the points would be...
@@bradman4399He's never been anything but a petulant child.
If Danny Ric is so fast then why should the boss tell his team mate to let him through???
Exactly this. Sainz passed Leclrec because he was faster without team orders. DR could pass Yuki even on soft tires. Sad.
he was saving the tyres for when the swap would come. this was all pre discussed. they gave yuki an opportunity to overtake kmag but he didn't get any close than 0.54s for over 9 laps, and then decided to swap. Daniel got up to 0.26s before they had to let max pass, making him lose almost a 1s behind kmag, which he still caught up to 0.6 before the end.
@@huh4206 BS..catching is one thing, passing is another and he didnt have the skates to pass or pull away from Yuki, he needs team orders unlike drivers who just do it
@@huh4206Yuki was 0.4 sec at his closest to Magnussen. He was sparing his tires. Wtf you smoking
@@joshw.5034What about the fact that for 14 laps Yuki was trying to overtake K-mag and he couldn’t do it, even with DRS. If he couldn’t do it in 14 laps, he wasn’t going to overtake him ever. So the team wanted Daniel to try
I was really hoping Ricciardo was going to let Tsunoda back through once he realized the pass wasn't going to happen on KMag. Probably too much to hope for when these guys are battling for their seat for next year, but I left the race being a bit disappointed in Daniel as well.
Nosecardo doesn't deserve to be at Red Bull ever again - got beat by a teenage Verstappen who is now twice as strong, while Nosecardo has fallen away significantly - with no wins in 6 years and WHOOPED by his McLAren teammate so bad they fired him. Quite frankly he shouldnt even be in F1 let alone the top team in F1. He is 35 - only 4 years younger than Hamilton who is absolute dinosaur. Nosecardo is WAY past it. He has a paltry 3 poles in 240 GP. PATHETIC!
damn you seem a lil agitated@@emelle1283
@@emelle1283 It's really hard to take someone's opinion seriously when they make up mean nicknames like school kid. Ad hominem attacks and name calling are usually the refuge of people that can't construct a logical argument.
Fr. If it had been a matter of scoring points, I'm sure yuki would have accepted it. But not switching back was purely to pad ricciardo's performance. Rb is REALLY playing favorites this year (unfortunately, they're favoring the weaker driver).
I love Danny Ric, but he did not show anything in this race. If you say you’re faster than your teammate but then can’t get past KMag and just sit there keeping station then you just blow your credibility next time.
If he was really 1 second faster per lap, he should've passed yuki on merit, not sitting there whining for team orders
@@juggernaut316 Yep. The only thing I try to remember is the radio are not broadcasted in real time with the video feed, so perhaps Danny was trying to radio ahead before he got up to Yukon. But at the end of the day, once he was let by, Danny made zero progress, even though his future (?) teammate Max was right behind him by that t8me. If there was any time to show your mettle that was it. DR needed to “send it” but never pulled the trigger :(
@juggernaut316 he didn't pass yuki because he was saving the tyres, and under team orders stood behind so yuki had a chance to get kmag, but yuki still hadn't taken kmag for over 9 laps. and then 2 more laps since when yuki got the order to swap. Daniel got as close as 0.26s to kmag when yuki only did 0.542s. if yuki followed the discussed strategy, daiel could've overtaken kmag before the blue flags delayed him again on the last lap to let max pass through.
It wasn’t that easy to pass Yuki on merit when Yuki had DRS on Kmag.
The pit stop timing always have problem for Yuki. Last year many times wrong timing to call Yuki to pit and destroy him. Italian crew do it in purpose, betrayed
If they like sabotaging him so much they should just fire him, got Lawson right there anyway
@@Duval-In-The-WallLawson was rubbish in F2 and bottled the last race in Super Formula. His Qatar race was a disaster….
@@sonypd9842
Lawson was very good in his first 5 races overall. Meanwhile Tsunoda’s first 5 races…
Honestly, I thought the driver swap was unnecesssary, because Ricciardo was on dying softs, so I clearly get why Yuki was frustrated... and then they did not even swap him back after they realized Ricciardo won´t pass Magnussen.
the softs were only dying because of the hold up
@@huh4206the softs were already almost 20 laps old before the holdup…
FFS, only because Yuki took several laps of sulking before Ricciardo forced his way through, by which time the advantage of super-softs had been greatly compromised. Comments by people knowing nothing about racing is painful to read.
Bad strategy, yes, but Yuki needs to address it properly instead of throwing tantrum and endangering his teammate.
endangering is such an exaggeration lol. their antics made things entertaining in an otherwise bore fest of a race, and im all for it
There should be serious consequences for that cooldown lap, unacceptable behavior to be racing after the flag
Yuki made his point clear... He did nothing wrong
@@KailamiMwiinga well, throwing tantrum and trying to ram your teammate is not something I will call a proper behaviour.
@@albertusaswin2012 message was received
Should have swapped back, D. Ric didn't make any progress
Rewatch the race. Look what happens to Danny when he has to let max through
washed@@chadsmart90
exactly
@@chadsmart90 The team knew this .. even more reason not to swap them at that time in the first place. If Kmag was dropping Yuki then there is nothing to lose but not when Yuki is within Kmag DRS. Let the lap play out and have Yuki also give Daniel DRS to pass Kmag on the same straight
Really well said,I just hope Yuki focuses that frustration into keep being the better driver between the two that he has already proof he is both in qualifying and the race and not make mistakes like that drivebomb again because of anger even if it is understandable where that anger comes from
Also as a side note Yuki reacts the same way other drivers do but because people infantilize him so much they make a whole deal about it
LOL no. Any driver pulling a stupid stunt like that gets equally criticized for being immature.
i can understand DR getting the order to go through due to having the different compound and having closed a 9 second gap, during which yuki hadn’t yet managed to get passed KMag. That said due to DR not getting past, they should’ve swapped back at the end
Agreed.
He only closed that 9 second gap because he was driving in clear air though
The thing is everyone is only looking at Daniel’s onboard for after the race. If you watch Yuki’s, he locks up attempting to safely pass by Daniel. And then when he tries to re-enter he’s given no space since Daniel moves directly into his line.
😂
I can't even blame Yuki for being pissed off, that switch was unnecessary. He was catching the Haas and probably could have took him. RB swapping positions just ruined everything
Nah this was just terribly unfair for Yuki
RB's strategy for Yuki didn't make sense because sauber and aston martin undercut them, in that case they should have extend both stints and give Yuki soft tyre in the end to fight against them, just like they did with Ricciardo, now why their calls for pit were utterly dum and of course resulted in destroying Yuki's race we will never know
they need to publicly apologize Yuki because he ended up looking like an idiot while the whole world was watching
Tsunoda didn't have any new softs left. He started the race on his only remaining set. Ricciardo started the race on used softs, keeping his new set for the end. Tsunoda is the only one making himself look like an idiot.
Nosecardo doesn't deserve to be at Red Bull ever again - got beat by a teenage Verstappen who is now twice as strong, while Nosecardo has fallen away significantly - with no wins in 6 years and WHOOPED by his McLAren teammate so bad they fired him. Quite frankly he shouldnt even be in F1 let alone the top team in F1. He is 35 - only 4 years younger than Hamilton who is absolute dinosaur. Nosecardo is WAY past it. He has a paltry 3 poles in 240 GP. PATHETIC!
It was simply ridiculous. Ricciardo was not faster than Yuki. The real problem was that he had to give the position back and he did not.
You brought up so many good points. I personally like them both. Daniel is the Drive To Survive spokesperson at this point and Yuki has been a better more mature driver as the years have gone on. They both have the same goal of just trying to survive and have a seat next season. This is going to get very interesting. I’m hoping they both work together and both prove they deserve to be there in the end.
Wild to see a nice reasonable person in the comment section.
Imagine being miles ahead of your team mates the whole race, then your teammate gets soft tires toward the end of the race and you're getting instructed to let him pass. Then everybody is gonna cheer how he beated you "again" and you have to worry about your career. Lovely
It’s never been about Yuki’s pace, Yuki is quick. He just isn’t professional and he showed that yet again
They will not pair Yuki with Max, it would cause fireworks.
Yuki Tsunoda is a pay-driver: he's only in that car because Honda wanted a Japanese driver in F1.
Now he is a pretty quick driver, but he still can't handle even the slightest problem, even after all the training and coaching Red Bull has invested in his career.
When everything works out in his favour, Yuki's fast, at times even very fast, but as soon as even the slightest thing doesn't go his way, an eruption immediately follows.
Agreed. Yuki needs to lose his seat, effective immediately.
True Yuki is young. All i hear in team radio is F F F F F beep beep beep. He should use less F words, doesnt look mature.
Delusional.
In hindsight, the call to swap is most likely doomed from the start.
We hear the radio call to swap on lap 52, they swapped on lap 53 when Max is right behind them, even if you're being generous and assume the radio comms actually happened a bit earlier at lap 51, that still leaves at best 2 laps before Max shows up at lap 53 and triggers the blue flags.
The swap was doomed from the beginning. The entire plan hinges on Daniel passing before Max shows up or his softs get destroyed, and the window for that plan to work is really small. Even if Yuki gave way early most likely nothing would have changed.
Danny Ric fan but Ithink they should've swapped palces back or at least been allowed to race after Ric failed to catch the car ahead.
Riccardo seems to be trying not to make an issue out of it. Good for him.
He's finally matured.
Easy to try not to make an issue out of it when Riccardo is the one getting the advantage
cos he's a boring PR machine and would never risk saying his mind if it meant getting in daddy horner's bad books
Pr merchant
PR merchant + took the easy way out instead of challenging max for the no.1 spot in RB + can't beat current teammate without team interference/bias. But he will always be part of the RB family I guess 🤷
Ricciardo should qualify faster instead of bossing his younger teammate. Man is acting like he’s still a big shot because he drove for Red Bull one time and so many are still in love with his stupid grin.
Agreed 100% with all you said. I couldn't put it better.
Finally! He's the delulu. Should keep Checo for RBR or take Lawson for RB.
Literally, if checo keeps second place in the championship just keep him one more season, while he isn't fast at qualifying he is competent enough in the races to not be a liability, probably better than pushing Ricciardo to there, who doesn't look any faster
How are you guys so clueless. Daniel didn’t boss anyone.
It was decided BEFORE the race in the strategy meeting that if the teammate behind had newer tires they would be let through.
When riccardo pitted, Yuki was around 7 seconds ahead. Once Danny closed it down into DRS range, the TEAM made the call. Not Danny ric.
@ua7632 - you must have missed the radio mid-race where they appointed DR team principal and king of @Vcarb.
Ric NEEDS team orders to get ahead, lol.
Since when has having competitive nature been seen as toxicity?
im not justifyng tsunoda but dany ric should give the position back when he couldnt with k-mag
That would sound very reasonable if Yuki hadn’t done his best to nullify the intent of the driver swap.
riccardo is finished.He is just a DTS merchant and he is just driving because he brings more sponsorship He is stopping liam's entry
The only reason Ricciardo is still in F1 is because of his PR and ofcourse, Horner thinking he still got it but truth to be told, he is done for good.
EXACTLY! Ricciardo is done... He does not belong at RB, not even close. I dont know why Horner is so caught up on him.
If Tsunoda outperforms him, he's done. He used too much the excuse that the Mclaren is a strange car and he couldn't get used to it, now there are no more excuses. Also there is the opinion that Norris could be a potential world champion so losing to him is not that bad and he could still be a solid number 2 for Red Bull. But i think is a moot point anyway, if Red Bull aren't complete idiots they'll get Sainz next season and secure the constructors championship for the next few years.
@@Faceless_Chat Because he did a test in the RB and was literally as fast as Max... Jesus you casuals are insufferable with your ignorant bullshit.
From honey badger to money badger to team orders badger
Yeah, blame the badger for what was obviously the team's call
😂😂
If Checo is performing as well as he did in Behrain the whole season, I think replacing Checo will be the dumbest thing ever to do, by Redbull
Barely beating Ferrari's and Mercs that were having problems of their own is performing well? Max was cruisin' and put a pitstop between him and Checo.
@@neverenoughgames72 Carlos might have been close to Checo, but i personally don't think Carlos might have overtook Checo, and he finished second what more do you what? " Max was cruising and put a pitstop between him" , So?? Redbull doesn't expect Checo to challenge or even come close to Max, They are happy as long as he finishes second. Doesn't he finish 2nd?? See I'm not a Sergio fan at all , I'm a Verstappan fan , but the disrespect towards Checo is unbearable. And before you come up with other pointless arguments to disrespect any drivers, go read my comment again... i said " IF CHECO PERFORMS WELL AS HE DID IN BEHRAIN, means if he finishes second to Max in most races.
@@AajasAhmed My point being, if the Ferrari's and Mercs didnt have their respective brake and engine difficulties, as in their cars would be operating as intended, Checo might not have come 2nd. No need to become hostile bro.
@@neverenoughgames72 You could have said this in the first place instead of talking like undermining Checo 🤷, maybe you didn't meant it, but reading your first comment made it feel so
@@AajasAhmed Well, im not impressedl with his performance if that is what were talking about. Yes he got P2, but motorsports is about much more than just objective results. Context is vital to produce a bigger picture. If Ferrari had usable brakes im pretty sure Sainz would have gotten P2. And maybe Russell P3 if his engine didnt start cooking itself. But this is all hypothetical ofcourse.
My thing is why didnt they switch back after it was clear ricciardo couldnt hang w kmag
Can‘t blame Yuki really, I wonder when everyone‘s infatuation with Daniel will finally wean off.
I love Yuki and he's my favourite driver and as much as I hate RB for doing him dirty this race, the cooling lap manoeuvre was completely unnecessary and childish. I know it is a really long stretch but I hope one day he'll earn a spot in a championship level car.
Here the problem. When yuki let Danny through, there was a 1.6 second gap to Kmag, the previous lap where he was supposed to be let through was a 0.65 second gap well within drs.
people really believing that both guys are going to be the next bromance duo, while some of the guys like Ocon and Gasly who are people believe will be toxic partnership is handled like a true professional
Great points, Not a good sign for the team
One thing I find strange is yuki had no problems with gasley, ever since he left the now rb team he’s had driver problems and I don’t know why, he step up in 2023 and carried that time on his back that entire year and now he’s been thrown to the way side, I understand why they swapped and what yuki did isn’t acceptable but I don’t blame him for being mad at this not one bit
K Mag for Red Bull next year haha. He kept both the RB B-teams drivers behind him in a literal tractor
I think the Haas is not as bad as we think and Komatsu makes it out to be. Hulk got into Q3 and K-Mag obviously managed to hold off what was expected to be a decent Racing Bulls (RB) car. It’s a case of what could have been with Hulk, if he didn’t have the incident with Stroll at that start.
Honestly either Hulk or KMAG would genuinely be the lead VCARB driver lmao
KMag drove an excellent race, has to be said
Liam Lawson really lucked out tbh. Yuki was so unlucky during those 5 races
riccardo is a has been that should have washed out of f1 after mclaren
Anyone who doesn't understand yukis frustration is not watching f1 races with full attention.. Yuki has been screwed about 6 races last year by strategy. He was running in p10 or 9 this race and instead of pitting him early they decided to wait for whatever reason?
To put him in double hard*
If you're going for double hard there's no fucking point in staying longer in the Track
Lets not forget they got Laurent Mekies in the team now and look whats happening in the first race
That's just how it goes when you have Ricciardo on your team.
The solution is to get rid of Riccardo. At one time he was an exciting up and coming driver, he is now a proven has been. Tsunoda is a hot head, but you really can't get rid of him over Riccardo.
Unpopular opinion: Daniel Riccardo is an overrated pilot as fuck due to drive to survive Netflix show and its humor that attracts lots of fans
Regardless of how things happened, RIC should have given the place back.
Looking forward to this rivalry for the rest of the season 🍿
Ultimately the blame goes to the team, they delayed the initial swap, so Ricciardo wasted tire life sitting behind Tsunoda, then couldn’t pass because of that loss of pace, then didn’t swap the positions back on the final lap. Even if it was a mistake on the cool down lap, Tsunoda was driving fairly hard, and it was just unnecessary. But if this is main rivalry of the season, it’s going to get punchy.
Also, people gotta stop the ‘making another driver look slower’. Tsunoda had better race pace in the first two stints, so it was a more comfortable option for the team to put him on shards, and because Dan was out of position, gambled on the Softs to make up positions. “Oh but softs was a viable stint” it’s Bahrain, the tire wear is the highest all season, softs won’t last 20+ laps at peak performance.
But if you're going to put Yuki in double hards, atleast don't let him be undercuted by the entire grid
@@diegoemanuel8641 True, and that’s on the team for sticking to the planned stop, rather than adapting to what the rest of the grid has done.
I have to be on Yukis side...he should be in line to replace checo... Ricciardo is frustrated and the team because yuki is beating him or matching him
Yuki was 0.450 behind Kmag when they gave him the message....what did they expect... taking people from ferrari already affected them
Daniel on new softs couldn't even pass Yuki on old hards. Daniel out in Q1, Yuki out in Q2 and the badger thinks he can get back into RBR. Carlos will go to RBR in 2025. Daniel no longer has the pace.
Based on 1 race, what about Mexico last year 😂😂😂 so fuckin funny
Riccardo is past his prime. If he had the sauce he would have shown it when he was with McLaren. He is not a replacement for Perez because Perez is the better driver between those two.
I would sign Checo in a heartbeat over Ricciardo
Perez is washed as well let’s be honest here
@@Duval-In-The-Wall thing is there so much drama in the RB paddock with Jos and Horner that I have no doubt that RB has given Perez the short end of the stick throughout his entire stay with the team, last season Perez would have poor qualiy's but usually end up on poll. He has the skill, but the team management is a thorn.
The only one getting Perez’s seat is Carlos. I think we’re going to see Carlos put it all together this season with that extra motivation he now has. Be aggressive, but be smart about it.
Gives us something to talk about, I guess - so cheers Yuki you mad b***ard we love you.
this is what helmut marko style of managment brings, The drama seems fun now, but when they clash or start losing points for thinking individually we will see how good or bad its to put your pilots against each other.
The VCARB team remains catastrophic in its pit strategy.
If the strategists were functioning flexibly, none of this would have happened.This is all.
I don’t think Ric called Yuki an effing helmet, I think it’s more like “It’s the effing helmet” since everything is broadcasted live, hence why Ric said ‘he’ll save it’, maybe for the debriefing.
that makes zero sense
Youre reaching, he called him an helmet, its not that deep.
If I’m the team principal at RB, it’s really simple. I tell each of Yuki and Daniel. We have a great third driver in Liam Lawson, who has already proven he can do the job and wants the job. If either one of you act the way Yuki did again toward the other you are gone and Liam is in. Believe me at that point that ridiculous behavior Yuki put on yesterday will stop.
No it won’t. Yuki has known about his own short fuse for years, seen shrinks, but hasn’t gotten a handle on it. Yuki’s F1 career is in more jeopardy than Daniel’s, just because Yuki cannot control his anger. What Team Principal would want to sign up a problem like that?
@@MaxFromSydney1 oh, I don’t think Daniel’s career is in jeopardy from Yuki’s temperament issue. But I think a message like that from the team principal would probably end any nonsense going on. And would force Yuki to control himself if he thinks he’s about to be replaced or will be replaced by Liam if there’s one more incident like this
Amazing that 4 years into his career Yuki still can’t stop making bonehead moves
Piastri says hello
@@Duval-In-The-Wallimagine being so biased your head is up your ass
But the principal is beta.
2 laps delay does effect softs, plus during that time the delay caused it force Daniel to move for Max, then he had to catch it back up, double negative effect on Daniel passing k-mag
Well most important teambattle of the year. So I can understand that they're fighting probably literally for their seat in F1. But I feel like Hornerbias will give it to ric, even though they are kinda even. Unless Seargent doesnt make it again.
Also Yuki would lose more, because unlike ric he is still in a midfield car, while also being in F1 for only a few years.
I mean, it'd make sense if they went with Ricciardo because he's actually mature and isn't a little baby when stuff doesn't go his way.
@@deathmachineyt3254 Funny that you say that about man who rage-quitted from Red Bull once Max caught up with him.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 That's one incident compared to Yuki, who acts like a baby constantly and is swearing 24/7 and pulling dumb stunts like yesterday when he dive bombed Daniel after the race.
Nosecardo doesn't deserve to be at Red Bull ever again - got beat by a teenage Verstappen who is now twice as strong, while Nosecardo has fallen away significantly - with no wins in 6 years and WHOOPED by his McLAren teammate so bad they fired him. Quite frankly he shouldnt even be in F1 let alone the top team in F1. He is 35 - only 4 years younger than Hamilton who is absolute dinosaur. Nosecardo is WAY past it. He has a paltry 3 poles in 240 GP. PATHETIC!
@@deathmachineyt3254yeah because the team wall tries to screw someone over who's a better driver than their PR stunt on wheels...I would swear as well
Riciardo avocado is too overrated, he is not fast at all, outqualified by tsunoda. His seat should give to lawson
Ricciardo is a bad driver, I dont understand why hes let back in any team, his replacement last year did better then him in just a few races, just lose Ricciardo all together.
Does everyone forget the fact that by the time yuki let him through max caught up and blue flagged them all ruining DR’s chance to overtake?
They ignore it because admitting that Tsunoda was at fault for delaying doesn't fit their agenda.
@@walover165tsunoda was still faster all weekend. The timing charts don't lie.
@@fernank017 I love how "all weekend" apparently excludes practice, now.
@@walover165I love how foolish you are by including practice as proof of pace 🤣.
@@walover165 VCARB messed up.
RB put Yuki in an impossible situation. They kept him out on hard tires while giving soft tires to Riccardo. DC wasn't that much faster. You don't call for a driver swap when you're P 13
Aldas, you’re forgetting that Yuki holding Ric up for two laps let Max Verstappen close up to them, and the blue flags meant that when Ricciardo was let through, he would lose serious time and tyre temperature in those moments
Tsunoda did cost the team there
Idiot, Ricciardo was slow all weekend…
The fact that people still think Daniel has a chance to replace Checois hilarious! Even if Checo left, Daniel does not stand a chance. He's literally washed.
All in all probably a good thing. They both know where they stand and will both try and prove to be the best driver. Ultimately, teammate competitiveness can sometimes be helpful.
Racing Bulls? More like two bulls running into eachother lmao
I assign 80% of the blame to the team. If they had decided from the beginning that they will be doing a different strategy, they should've communicated clearly this scenario. Even if they don't, they could've told Yuki to let Daniel pass and if he failed to do anything about K-Mag then he will give the position back. Althought it would be unfair to blame this entirely to the team principal but this is a failure of communication and one that we should expect from a team led by a former Ferrari man.
I’m guessing the RB pit wall were expecting the soft tyres to last longer than they did
Liam would've been a better choice (*than Ricciardo) for vcaRB imo. but I do love the drama
Sacked DR. McLaren was right to sack him.
The thing is that if the swap would have been completed on lap 51, the blue flag could have been avoided which was on ig lap 54. This means that KMag would not have had the 2sec advantage and Dannys chances of overtaking him would have increased exponentially. But this is just a big what if. That divebomb tho is why Yuki will never go to Redbull. Imagine if he did that to Max and had even the slightest of contacts, man would've been fired before he could say Honda.
As a Yuki fan, I totally agree he shouldn’t have put his angry towards Ricci. He has so much potential, but needs to work on his behavior and professionalism more.
There wasn't tension between the drivers. There was just tension between Yuki and the world.
seems like we all forgot how Ricciardo crashed into back of Verstappen in 2018., RedBull trying to proove their academy driver is good is where it all went wrong, Daniel is overrated and shouldnt have a seat in first place
I know people keep brining up Yuki temper but every driver isn’t the same. There is no one size fits all driver and a majority of the time Yuki is fine. He has every right to be upset that he’s being told to give up his spot instead of Danny just racing and passing him.
Excellent analysis & opinion, nothing to add. Regards.
Great points made.
Frankly, VCARB shouldn't have been in a position where they needed team orders in the first place. They fumbled strategy on their lead car, Yuki, which put Yuki in a position that bunched the two teammates up in the first place.
Yuki had faster race pace and out qualified his team mate. Yes, he should have moved sooner, but at the same time, Ricciardo should have proven the reason with a pass on KMag or given the place back out of respect.
He only lost one lap's worth of performance on a tire that was much quicker than KMag (on older Hards) and couldn't get past. Much credit to KMag's defense but also to the fact that Daniel didn't make it work with what he was given.
All we can say is, Daniel DIDN'T make the most of it for what he was given and sort of proved why Yuki felt aggrieved. Had Daniel been a couple places up the road, it would have at least been easier to explain it was the right move for Yuki...but nonetheless he wasn't.