Rating Skincare Hacks: Ice, Gua Sha, Dermarolling, Tinkle Razors

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • Reviewing skincare hacks that we've seen on social media, part 2 in our series! Today, we debunk ice, gua sha, home dermarolling, and using tinkle razors to shave the face!
    0:00 Intro
    0:59 Ice Hack
    3:47 Home Dermarolling
    8:04 Gua Sha
    11:14 Paint roller hack
    13:05 Shaving the face
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  • @maenad1231
    @maenad1231 3 года назад +8894

    My heart skipped a beat when that kid said he’s gonna leave the peeling solution on his open wounds for an hour

    • @charmainetom5638
      @charmainetom5638 3 года назад +612

      Saammme. Especially because the package says not to exceed 10 min. I feel so bad for his skin 🙊

    • @raechel.oglesby
      @raechel.oglesby 3 года назад +226

      Kids not Tiktok are ignorant. Don’t read instructions on products and are damaging their skin.

    • @maenad1231
      @maenad1231 3 года назад +39

      @@bernesemuir8022
      Your skin must be more resilient than average. I’m definitely happy you got good results! Just avoid creating open wounds on your skin before using it!

    • @kathykov1
      @kathykov1 3 года назад +4

      @@bernesemuir8022 I have left it on for an hour as well. I don't have sensitive skin.

    • @SmOkEeLeGaNcE
      @SmOkEeLeGaNcE 3 года назад +64

      Also, did the kid read that it's not supposed to be used on irritated skin? Why would he do this? Since I used roller, and this particular chemical peeling solution (SEPARATELY!) and I know how both things burn, I can't even imagine how it hurt combined!

  • @bsssutube
    @bsssutube 3 года назад +8089

    Pleaseeeee do a video on darkened skin - knees, elbows, and ARMPITS especially

    • @yarafares5465
      @yarafares5465 3 года назад +93

      Yesss I need that

    • @paige172
      @paige172 3 года назад +33

      same

    • @haru.5262
      @haru.5262 3 года назад +16

      UP

    • @christiankim8554
      @christiankim8554 3 года назад +33

      I don't use anything on my armpits except soap and I promise you it feels smoother and it is closer to my skin tone compared to before but just be prepared if you have sweating problems or if your armpits are smelly lol. The hair is also like going away or something. But yeah, you can try it if you like but I dunno if it's gonna work for you and I think that there's no study relating to that so yeah. Just a tip HAHAHA.

    • @angele4091
      @angele4091 3 года назад +92

      Start waxing instead of shaving, it helps lighten the skin

  • @Pupperpie
    @Pupperpie 2 года назад +2190

    I love actual dermatologists on RUclips giving skincare tips and busting myths.

  • @jamilynn322
    @jamilynn322 2 года назад +4957

    Also, 90% of the TikTokkers blathering on about how ice makes your face look "young" and "firm" are about 15 years old, so they could smear CheezWhiz on their faces and they'd still look "firm", so - yeah.

    • @shaeismagical
      @shaeismagical 2 года назад +119

      Yes let's point that out. Lol!

    • @Ytube928
      @Ytube928 2 года назад +209

      The ice therapy isn't tiktok trend it's pretty old traditional women use to wash their face with ice or cold water it really decrease the morning puffiness on face and reduces the scars and inflammation and even out tone!🙌

    • @luxury-style6905
      @luxury-style6905 2 года назад +34

      Lol yes they also need to point out the fact that they r FIFTEEN that's why their skin looks young

    • @xosilverwingxo
      @xosilverwingxo 2 года назад +28

      I believe Joan Crawford used it pretty regularly!

    • @alishaparker315
      @alishaparker315 2 года назад +6

      🤣🤣💀

  • @sharit7970
    @sharit7970 3 года назад +6416

    Takeaway: don't take medical advice from teens on the internet ; )
    Edit: thanks for the likes! Usually I get 4 or 5 tops...

    • @drdrew3
      @drdrew3 3 года назад +250

      Don’t take ANY advice from teens.

    • @sharit7970
      @sharit7970 3 года назад +14

      @@drdrew3 XD !

    • @Orangecat-np3xy
      @Orangecat-np3xy 3 года назад +92

      As a teen myself.... I AGREE

    • @emiliag6699
      @emiliag6699 3 года назад +3

      Amen!

    • @sharit7970
      @sharit7970 3 года назад +2

      @@emiliag6699 XD !!

  • @michaddo
    @michaddo 3 года назад +3464

    The way I gasped when he said he was going to leave the peeling solution on for an hour.....

    • @weedywendy4266
      @weedywendy4266 3 года назад +152

      it says right on the bottle.. 5-10 minutes, max. eeek!

    • @JenniieeFurrRobles
      @JenniieeFurrRobles 3 года назад +64

      This comment almost made me faint (i barely started watching the video but im going thru the comments lol)

    • @Mandy3141
      @Mandy3141 3 года назад +34

      I think the video was debunked months ago, someone says it's a fake (well, I hope so!)

    • @argieclyde741
      @argieclyde741 3 года назад +8

      I screamed. Noooooooooo! Hahahaha

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 года назад +9

      @@JenniieeFurrRobles I think most of us watch 'n read simultaneously!

  • @JH-yj7kk
    @JH-yj7kk 2 года назад +284

    I enjoy gua sha as a relaxing ritual and face massage. I do find it eases some of the tension I can carry in my face muscles and reduces puffiness. I think the more mind blowing results that people see probably are as a result of putting more time and effort into their skin care over all, rather than the gua sha itself. If you've decided to do a gua sha routine, you've probably gone down the skin care rabbit hole and are diligently following an am/pm routine and wearing sunscreen too, so an improvement in the appearance of your skin is likely due to just taking care of it generally.

    • @alaraaslln
      @alaraaslln 6 месяцев назад +10

      A relative of mine does face yoga and I have the chance to see him at certain intervals of the year. God, the change in him was incredibly good. Also, my personal opinion is that it has a little bit to do with faith because it feels very safe to do.

    • @hotlinemiammary
      @hotlinemiammary 6 месяцев назад

      Didn't know about gua sha until recently and as someone who spends a lot of time in front of computers for a living, I love it just as a tension relief technique. But the second I started seeing all of the weird claims, I cracked up. Believe will believe anything as long as it's in the form of short form content I swear.

  • @fuzzy912
    @fuzzy912 Год назад +91

    I'm a chronic clencher and my jaw is always tensed, when I wakeup I always have swelled face, and guasha really helps release the tense on my face and decreases the swelling. So I can definitely say it's effective in this case.

    • @sandyn3384
      @sandyn3384 9 месяцев назад +3

      You can also maybe consider BOTOX injections, my mom did and it was the end of her bruxism that almost destroyed her teeth.

  • @TaeKat
    @TaeKat 3 года назад +3061

    “It helps the serums absorb”
    SIR. THATS AN ACID, NOT A SERUM

    • @julkachxjnowsky8084
      @julkachxjnowsky8084 3 года назад +51

      YES! why dont more people talk about this?!?

    • @QUEEN-df1mc
      @QUEEN-df1mc 3 года назад +42

      And you can't even do that with a serum. 🤦‍♀️

    • @SEA-dv5kh
      @SEA-dv5kh 3 года назад +59

      @@tracyosasu3954 wow so genuine !! doesn't sound scammy at all

    • @321MjC
      @321MjC 3 года назад +11

      @@SEA-dv5kh ☠

    • @miyuvmiyuvailesi3470
      @miyuvmiyuvailesi3470 2 года назад +1

      🙄🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  • @in_the_2106
    @in_the_2106 2 года назад +847

    Grey's anatomy was right after all, dermatologists are bright and shiny.

  • @antonyxd7584
    @antonyxd7584 Год назад +375

    The second video reminds me of a gold rule that my dermatologist once told me and that I follow like law: home-use products should NEVER burn and not even tingle. I had bad acne and due to many online videos I assumed that the burning from my treatment (given by my dermatologist) was normal (though it hurted like hell), but the acne worsened. Went again and the treatment was too strong for me (he didn't know because I never told him it burned assuming it wasn't relevant). Because of that misinformation from the internet I completely disbalanced (and kinda chemicaly burned) my skin, and took me two years to recover.

    • @ZeratronXellos
      @ZeratronXellos Год назад +14

      Yeah but that product from the ordinary is pretty strong and if you’re not used to it it may tingle a bit but it’s still a good product to use if you respect the indications. First time I used it for only 6 minutes as it was tingling a bit and second time I increased to 8 minutes with less discomfort. Also I don’t use it more than once a week and it’s a really good product for exfoliation your skin.

    • @shashankkollaje5640
      @shashankkollaje5640 Год назад +2

      it happened to me when I used Benzoyl Peroxide on my face.

    • @Miss_Deeds
      @Miss_Deeds Год назад +9

      Alpha Hydroxy Acid does burn. At home or at the salon. Retinol for anti aging and acne also will irritate and feel worse before it feels better.
      Yes there’s misinformation that’s why it’s crucial to find at least 6-10 resources for the info. You’ll figure out what’s up when you watch more than one video.

    • @yolyprog2561
      @yolyprog2561 Год назад

      How could you not complain immediately

    • @AnimeLover069
      @AnimeLover069 8 месяцев назад

      The microneedling before the peel...Ooh man.

  • @Purple-sx8us
    @Purple-sx8us Год назад +67

    In today’s world where everyone is “beauty guru” and have tons of advices to share we often get confused and end up torturing our skin , thank the lords for doc like you and Doc V who keeps us honest and aware ! Thank you for doing what you are doing !

  • @MarissaCooperButPoor
    @MarissaCooperButPoor 3 года назад +2215

    Watching these two smile makes me so happy, it's like going out in the sun without the uv damage.

  • @TheFunninthesun
    @TheFunninthesun 3 года назад +695

    “First of all. I hate 5 min crafts. PERIOD.”
    -Dr. Shah

    • @ItsAmandaRed
      @ItsAmandaRed 2 года назад +1

      I thought he was saying CRAPS lmao

  • @bainiksan
    @bainiksan 2 года назад +73

    I gasped the moment that guy showed the derma roller and that The Ordinary solution. This is a self inflicted crime.

    • @janinem9011
      @janinem9011 3 месяца назад +1

      I saw a young girl do it on TT and was thinking... NOOOOOOO

    • @111...
      @111... 2 месяца назад

      TikTok is just plain bad news. Look at how many people have been harmed because of Tik Toc Challenges!

    • @ashleynicolemartinez7870
      @ashleynicolemartinez7870 Месяц назад

      I have been doing it for years and 36 people say look way younger then my age every one to there option

  • @Qwertky
    @Qwertky Год назад +241

    I like to use a cooled guacha tool to apply my morning serum. Just because it feels nice, and helps wake me up. 😃

    • @mima_piedade
      @mima_piedade 8 месяцев назад +7

      It's like me and my face brush, do I need a vibrating pink brush on my face every day? Not really, but it makes me happy.

    • @hotlinemiammary
      @hotlinemiammary 6 месяцев назад +1

      So I read that chilling the tools can actually cause problems with how the drainage works because of the sudden introduction of cold to the skin, but I'm not an expert. Still feels heavenly though.

  • @voodoochild7533
    @voodoochild7533 3 года назад +882

    The dermarolling one had me screaming!!! This boy 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @abirk4538
      @abirk4538 3 года назад +50

      He has multiple videos like this destroying his skin for likes and attention

    • @mejamariellee
      @mejamariellee 3 года назад +22

      @@zeynees i think he is faking the videos

    • @bubble1778
      @bubble1778 3 года назад +2

      @@zeynees isn't he the same kid that would take off his braces

    • @mainerfreebird
      @mainerfreebird 3 года назад +2

      He sounds dumb from the get

  • @nevershoutBritta
    @nevershoutBritta 3 года назад +1485

    Can y’all do a proper hair removal video for women’s faces, I have PCOS and ya girl gets thick hairs on my face but I always get ingrown hairs

    • @CASSIESBAKERY
      @CASSIESBAKERY 3 года назад +21

      Same here too. 😫

    • @noemitellez3098
      @noemitellez3098 3 года назад +19

      Try the tweezerman hair remover tool! It’s the one that’s shaped like a V. It was 20 us bucks for me but it’s so very worth it.

    • @Simply_Evory
      @Simply_Evory 3 года назад +3

      I need this also

    • @jennahope4353
      @jennahope4353 3 года назад +15

      any hair thicken tips? my hairline is thinning.

    • @marymckee3339
      @marymckee3339 3 года назад +24

      Try electrolysis, been doing it for really a year for my chin because of pcos n so far can see a huge significant of changes. Once the hair is gone it doesn't come back.

  • @alisonsomerville5565
    @alisonsomerville5565 Год назад +8

    It’s so good to hear professional sensible skin care advice.There is much hype and nonsense out there that it’s so hard for us laypeople to sift through it all.Thank you gentlemen for doing the handwork for us.
    Ps found your channel by accident,am really glad I did though.Keep up the great work.

  • @leftymind2977
    @leftymind2977 3 года назад +2865

    I love how Dr. Shah out here exposing himself like, “I eat like shit and sleep like shit”, LOL.

    • @Assyla_555
      @Assyla_555 3 года назад +11

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @TrinitySilva
      @TrinitySilva 3 года назад +122

      but he still looks like that??? hahaha maybe his idea of eating like shit is different than mine

    • @rachelsullivan2926
      @rachelsullivan2926 3 года назад +20

      @@TrinitySilva right? 🤣🤣

    • @rachelsullivan2926
      @rachelsullivan2926 3 года назад +19

      I must say, it made me feel less guilty about the chocolate covered cashews I was eating earlier.

    • @aiasaleh9193
      @aiasaleh9193 3 года назад +26

      And " I hate 5 min crafts period " 😂😅😅😅😅

  • @kslmt
    @kslmt 3 года назад +3213

    I am a massage therapist, and I am trained in gua sha. Thank you so much for addressing this ridiculous trend of using it on the face. Gua sha is great for muscles, though. Keep up the good work of educating us all. 🙂

    • @chickenwithlaserlegs1485
      @chickenwithlaserlegs1485 3 года назад +45

      Would you recommend doing gua shua on certain isolated body parts?
      Edit: I meant on other isolated body parts other than your face!

    • @kslmt
      @kslmt 3 года назад +220

      @@chickenwithlaserlegs1485 yes! It is amazing for hypertonic muscles; it is one of the only things that give me relief in my upper back. But be warned, it can cause some seriously alarming-looking bruises, even though they don't hurt.

    • @genesislover
      @genesislover 3 года назад +78

      Can people not have hypertonic muscles in their face? It seems like that would be super common in the jaw area especially.

    • @kslmt
      @kslmt 3 года назад +111

      Yes, you can have hypertonic face muscles, but the skin and other tissues on the face is much more delicate than, say, on the back. Even the facial muscles are very small, and gua sha works best on larger muscles. If I were trying to release hypertonic muscles in the face, I would likely use trigger point therapy, pin and stretch techniques or simply light to medium Swedish strokes.

    • @litil.n6774
      @litil.n6774 3 года назад +9

      @@kslmt what about if it's used to lift the face and not for any other reason. Does it work then

  • @theresapearman9644
    @theresapearman9644 2 года назад +38

    Thank you guys!!! I’m an Aesthetician and these videos are a constant battle for us pros in the treatment room. I saved this video and shared to my page so these things I tell my clients are validated by doctors and dermatologists like yourselves! 😊 👏

  • @linaabdullah6856
    @linaabdullah6856 2 года назад +2

    I like how you have the timing for each topic in the description, so i can go straight to what i want, love your vidos!

  • @vanessak222
    @vanessak222 3 года назад +819

    "Ouch it burns!" Well yeah...you just put peeling solution on after rolling microneedles on your face lol

    • @marac9087
      @marac9087 3 года назад +13

      Guess he not even leave it there for 1 min.. That was burning 😂

    • @chongcongmietmai5558
      @chongcongmietmai5558 2 года назад +4

      OMG I can't even imagine how bad it will burn shtttt, leave it for 1 hour, bet he could not last for 30s

    • @sla7538
      @sla7538 2 года назад +5

      Aha bha and he rubbed it in his skin🤔

    • @lisaspikes4291
      @lisaspikes4291 Год назад +5

      From what I’ve learned about micro needling and dermarolling, you really shouldn’t put anything on your face for hours after you do it! Especially not a peeling product!
      I usually do it at night before bed, then wash my face in the morning and apply a gentle moisturizer. Save the fancy serums and peelers for a couple of days later!

  • @sunvavachi
    @sunvavachi 3 года назад +470

    Dr. Maxfield has to share how he keeps his face so smooth while shaved for men out there, he has clearly mastered his skin care routine!

  • @loues916
    @loues916 2 года назад +3

    They just look at each other with so much love❤️. I’m melting and learning at the same time.

  • @DomDollx
    @DomDollx Год назад +54

    Very very good video series on correcting these misinformed culture of life hacks ....some people are just risking their existing natural/default wealth of health and wellness w these wacky hacks esp young folk. Good on you, on of my fav channels foe skincare. It feels grt when you confirm that some of my routine choices are supported by you guys :D

  • @wajihafz7775
    @wajihafz7775 3 года назад +943

    I want someone to look at me how Dr Maxfield looks at Dr Shah🥺❤️

    • @Ajwad99
      @Ajwad99 3 года назад +51

      I literally said the same thing so I’m not crazy!!!

    • @jimenez1131
      @jimenez1131 3 года назад +41

      Omg wait are they dating or together? (This is the first video I watch so idk, also don’t mean it in a rude way but I can’t figure out if they are or not😂)

    • @andreaholmes180
      @andreaholmes180 3 года назад +15

      Yea.... what's going on there🤔

    • @serenatheresegonzalez1660
      @serenatheresegonzalez1660 3 года назад +19

      The guy in black is married cuz he had a wedding band on his left hand...

    • @cheyenneross1809
      @cheyenneross1809 3 года назад +40

      They both have wives

  • @MariaGarcia-cv5yz
    @MariaGarcia-cv5yz 2 года назад +1496

    A dermatologist told me about ice to help with my acne years ago and it was the best piece of advice and help I got with my acne mainly I believe because it decreases inflammation. For me it was a complete gamechanger

    • @susanlynn1213
      @susanlynn1213 2 года назад

      Eat vegan to reduce acne.

    • @itadakimasu101
      @itadakimasu101 2 года назад +77

      A chilled face mask would have the same effect and probably better for your skin too :)

    • @firmakurtcedrickd.5706
      @firmakurtcedrickd.5706 2 года назад +9

      so ice really works?

    • @itadakimasu101
      @itadakimasu101 2 года назад +159

      @@firmakurtcedrickd.5706 it works to decrease inflammation, the clogged pore will still be there just not as red, hot, and burning. Any type of cold applied to your face can also reduce the swelling. It’s something you would have to do every day or twice a day, but it would never get rid of your acne.

    • @hush3448
      @hush3448 2 года назад +4

      Do you put ice directly on your face?

  • @maggotz1699
    @maggotz1699 2 года назад +6

    You guys are just great. I’ve had so many question about skin care. been trying to do research on products before I buy them but there are so many reviews it’s really hard to know what’s what! The last thing I want to do is cause accidental harm to my skin caused by misinformation & you guys are very informative! Thank you for your extremely educated opinions!

  • @WrittenbyDaisyCampbell
    @WrittenbyDaisyCampbell Год назад +78

    I LOVE that y’all don’t act “greater than thou” like you’re very “if it works for you”
    My dermatologist is like this too, she for sure has guided me towards the right product too.

  • @valbunch3359
    @valbunch3359 3 года назад +1462

    These videos have definitely stopped me from buying unnecessary products. I had my eye on the Gua Sha tool and I’m happy I came across this video 🙌🏼

    • @Account-pr6vk
      @Account-pr6vk 3 года назад +104

      I already bought one 🤣 oops

    • @skyejacques
      @skyejacques 3 года назад +12

      Me too, I was wondering why I was delaying getting the tool or doing it by following a good video

    • @intenseasmr9180
      @intenseasmr9180 3 года назад +110

      I have one and I like it.

    • @NewlyWedz06
      @NewlyWedz06 3 года назад +61

      I just got mine earlier today. 😭. But I’m keeping it bc it makes me feel good.

    • @TentinQuarantino_
      @TentinQuarantino_ 3 года назад +33

      I got one for free with Birchbox (jade roller too). I like the gua shua tool in the morning to depuff and promote lymph drainage, with a serum to lubricate.

  • @stacyharvey1383
    @stacyharvey1383 3 года назад +457

    I use gua sha because I work for the human version of Sauron and she stresses me out so much that I clench my jaw all day. I always make sure to apply a facial oil first and use gentle movements toward the lymphatics. It seems to help with the muscle tension in my face and the back of my neck.

    • @heroinheroine6929
      @heroinheroine6929 2 года назад +70

      I really like that phrase, "female version of Sauron". How is it going in Mordor? I hope one day you will get back on her!

    • @aror6480
      @aror6480 2 года назад +8

      I found out a RUclips channel ran by physiotherapists and I learned lots of places to touch and massage your face in order to relax your jaw. Just pressing under your ear lobe, where the low jaw starts, is superpainful but after keeping the pressure there the pain diminished and I felt relaxed. Anyway, after 3 years with a clenched jaw I bought a "férula de descarga" (no idea of the name in English) usually, people use it while sleeping but when I am home I wear it whenever I am not eating. Life changer!

    • @kitti2868
      @kitti2868 Год назад +22

      This is my favorite comment of all times. On a more serious note I hope you have found a better boss since!

    • @Simplenotion
      @Simplenotion Год назад +11

      Please leave Mordor. I just did. It's worth it!

    • @hazel6969
      @hazel6969 Год назад +7

      Human version of sauron🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @chrstphrmc
    @chrstphrmc 2 года назад

    LOVE how Dr. Maxfield looks at Dr. Shah. It fills my heart.

  • @cheycheygilfish1760
    @cheycheygilfish1760 Год назад +20

    through my experience, the main thing that helped my skin really start clearing is when i changed my diet so that definitely helped me

  • @_jasleendhaliwal
    @_jasleendhaliwal 3 года назад +2424

    hi doc! Can you guys please also talk about lasers and other option for hair removal

    • @banzaher9822
      @banzaher9822 3 года назад +13

      Yes please!!

    • @db-gb5xi
      @db-gb5xi 3 года назад +21

      Dr Davin Lim has a number of videos on lasers. Dr Vanita Rattan, Dr Dray, Dr Alexis Stephens also have videos on it.

    • @jacquelinemichele
      @jacquelinemichele 3 года назад +29

      Can you please also talk about lasers in general? For like anti aging and sun damage and acne etc?

    • @allisonbeeman3199
      @allisonbeeman3199 3 года назад +25

      I’m curious about long term effects. Is this something that may cause cancer? Has this been studied?

    • @serenity1015
      @serenity1015 3 года назад +53

      Oh lawdy. I have been doing laser hair removal for a few months and excuse my language but THAT SHIT HURTS. I have pcos and more thicker hair so everyone is going to have a different experience but it is so worth it. I don't have to worry about shaving all the time and ingrown hairs anymore. It feels so freeing to not have to waste time shaving. You do have to shave before each session though.

  • @ashtonwilliams5515
    @ashtonwilliams5515 3 года назад +247

    Would love to see a video that covers hair removal and the impacts on the skin. It’s often difficult to know if my skin is irritated from hair removal or not and what is worth investing in to protect my skin, but keeping it smooth.

    • @noemitellez3098
      @noemitellez3098 3 года назад +1

      Have you tried the tweezerman hair removal tool ?

    • @TalkWithJoce
      @TalkWithJoce Год назад +2

      Yep am especially curious about sugaring

  • @nadiakhan1754
    @nadiakhan1754 2 года назад +5

    Thank you so much you guys answered my question related to Trinkle razors. I was looking for this answer from a genuine person for so long🙌🏻

  • @MN-ns1lo
    @MN-ns1lo 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for talking about facial lymph drainage. I think this is especially helpful for the people with lots of filler in face.

  • @anaguerrerosholisticwellbe2788
    @anaguerrerosholisticwellbe2788 3 года назад +520

    I do body gua sha in my practice (I am Chinese medicine practitioner) to help with stiff/painful muscles and blocked channels. Facial gua sha as we see it today, is a modern trend and the claims are ridiculous haha! Gentle gua sha on the face stimulates the circulation and may improve collagen production. And that's that.
    Great videos guys! Keep them coming x

    • @FlamesofLion
      @FlamesofLion 2 года назад +23

      This is what I love about medical RUclips, cause the standard Caribbean female, such as myself, would have no idea. We'd see it as a weird named trend from the internet.
      I personally wish the misinformation would stop, because if these things are advocated then I'd advocate the really products/ service

    • @jesussaves8549
      @jesussaves8549 2 года назад +2

      Yes but it won’t change your nose shape is what they are saying

    • @mitza420
      @mitza420 Год назад +2

      @@FlamesofLion Sad thing is misinformation will never stop

    • @hol8642
      @hol8642 Год назад +1

      Interesting because the person who made the tiktok video they look at is also a TCM doctor 😯

    • @garbijcan181
      @garbijcan181 Год назад +2

      that's why I use the gua sha on my face !! also feels nice on my masseter, scm (ik that's neck), and temples

  • @kimisilv
    @kimisilv 3 года назад +295

    If only a classroom could keep us this engaged. Thanks Docs!

    • @changeeyecolor3891
      @changeeyecolor3891 3 года назад +2

      👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @eachandeverything9068
      @eachandeverything9068 3 года назад +4

      There were NO boys or teachers in my school days that looked like these two men do 😂😉😂😂. If there were I’m sure all of us girls woulda paid attention 200%!! Lol. But seriously I luv hearing what they have to say.

  • @virginiaariaz4214
    @virginiaariaz4214 2 года назад +5

    You two are amazing! I love your honesty and your humor 😊👍Thank you so much for educating us all.

  • @rumple503
    @rumple503 9 месяцев назад +4

    I no longer buy skincare products or tools without watching your videos first. I love this channel, thank you so much for giving us such great content and help FOR FREE ❤

  • @musicmania635
    @musicmania635 2 года назад +48

    He applied an ACID on open wounds...I am so scared for that kid's skin... I'll be having nightmares about it for ages now.😰😰😰

  • @Wilson-gp1kg
    @Wilson-gp1kg 3 года назад +369

    Ow it’s burning, but I’m going to keep applying it.... oh and then leave TO on for 6x the recommended time! Mental!

    • @DeorsaWisteriaVenustiano
      @DeorsaWisteriaVenustiano 3 года назад +16

      I know, right? I was legit saying "stop applying it then."

    • @m.marten6525
      @m.marten6525 3 года назад +15

      From what I've heard he makes those insane videos which are all fake at the end just to get views

    • @chloedenlinger3217
      @chloedenlinger3217 3 года назад +6

      This doesn’t have to do with mental illness. It has to do with lack of wisdom. Being a sufferer of mental illness and being a sufferer of lack of wisdom, these things are not one in the same trait. There is a difference.

    • @chipmunkwarcry
      @chipmunkwarcry 3 года назад +8

      @@chloedenlinger3217 I think they are British and using the phase in that sense. That said I completely agree with what you have to say about wisedom

    • @Wilson-gp1kg
      @Wilson-gp1kg 3 года назад +11

      @@chloedenlinger3217 it’s a phrase of speech.

  • @KarlaJMO
    @KarlaJMO 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for doing these videos…they are so important to debunk the harmful hacks and promote healthy skin treatments. Did not know the spatula trick to apply lotion/treatments to your back!!

  • @lindaroach1
    @lindaroach1 Год назад +2

    THANK YOU so much for all of your work, expertise and taking the time to relay all of your knowledge to us! So appreciated!

  • @Crazee108
    @Crazee108 3 года назад +322

    The editing during the lymphatic drainage moment was everything. 🤣

    • @Doctorly
      @Doctorly  3 года назад +51

      😂 Dying -Dr. Maxfield

  • @chelleec23
    @chelleec23 3 года назад +169

    Dr. Maxfield has the cutest smile and I can't help but smile when he does.

    • @jennifermunoz9758
      @jennifermunoz9758 3 года назад +6

      I can't believe no one is talking about how good looking these guys are!!

  • @delilah8470
    @delilah8470 2 года назад +16

    i was gifted a rose quartz facial roller and guasha or whatever it’s called and i love to put it in the freezer and use it to help with reducing redness, inflammation and pain from cystic acne.

  • @VeronicaRenaeMUA
    @VeronicaRenaeMUA Год назад +1

    Love this! Debunked the myths! Thanks for sharing. You both pointed out some great points that I am definitely taking away and sharing with my clients!

  • @ohmightywez
    @ohmightywez 3 года назад +310

    As a person who was born with a genetically malfunctioning lymphatic system, I learned to do effleurage on myself from head to toe, and give my face a light lymphatic massage each night and morning when I apply my serums and moisturizer. It helps me a great deal.

    • @christian_k_e
      @christian_k_e 3 года назад +1

      s

    • @hmacklemore2226
      @hmacklemore2226 3 года назад +28

      They weren't disparaging effleurage though. They were just pointing out that massaging your face isn't going to reduce wrinkles or tighten your pores or any other TikTok claims.

    • @everberry51
      @everberry51 3 года назад +4

      I think the point is if you need it, you need it. If you don’t, you won’t see/feel much difference

    • @rainyafternooncafe
      @rainyafternooncafe 3 года назад +1

      May I ask what your lymphatic condition is called? I have a lot of lymphatic problems but no diagnosis as to the cause yet. 😔 Thanks.

    • @lannyslough8684
      @lannyslough8684 3 года назад +1

      Good for Fibromyalgia 👍. I need to learn more about this. Thanks

  • @indiegogurt
    @indiegogurt 3 года назад +418

    Traditional gua sha hurts LOL my mom and grandma do it to me when I have muscle aches and OOH HONEY

    • @jeylenereyes1588
      @jeylenereyes1588 3 года назад +43

      I agree! I worked at a holistic spa and got a gua sha massage and it was sooo painful. Plus all the bruising afterwards scared the crap out of me lol

    • @ms1472
      @ms1472 3 года назад +37

      YESSS T_T One time, I went to a buddhist temple close to my home and the monk asked me if I wanted to try it because I had achy shoulders. BRUH, my shoulder was black by the time I left. Hahahaha

    • @lauraashley1
      @lauraashley1 3 года назад +1

      @@ms1472 sounds fun 😄

    • @ms1472
      @ms1472 3 года назад +4

      @@lauraashley1 It was....an experience that is for sure hahahaha.

    • @Kiwi_TaylorsVersion
      @Kiwi_TaylorsVersion 3 года назад +4

      @@ms1472 did it help you?

  • @noik_11
    @noik_11 Год назад +1

    I love the advice, but I love you’re guys energy and commentary even more

  • @lynnpotts8037
    @lynnpotts8037 2 года назад +2

    You two are very entertaining and informative. I really like the banter.

  • @deb74
    @deb74 3 года назад +705

    Phew! Almost thought I would have to ditch using my Tinkle Razors! That’s what you call a “Close Shave” 😜

    • @madisonmorales9795
      @madisonmorales9795 3 года назад +7

      BAHAHAHA

    • @mrschammo
      @mrschammo 3 года назад +4

      Hahahhaha Pun intended 😉

    • @blaredo
      @blaredo 3 года назад +4

      Do your hairs grow back stubly? My fear with using these products are not the regrowth but the stubble ?

    • @GiuaSuki
      @GiuaSuki 3 года назад +13

      @@blaredo its just not the soft end of the hair as it was before but its nothing compared to mens stuble. so yes feels a bit different but not too bad.i do it once a week typically but its worth it having super soft skin and it looks way more glowy.

    • @baileyMFvext
      @baileyMFvext 3 года назад

      @@GiuaSuki twinkle are amazing!! Tried and true and i get mine off Amazon. 3 packs for less than $10 i believe

  • @christinasantini8020
    @christinasantini8020 3 года назад +361

    Tinkle razors (and the like) changed my skin! Takes off the peach fuss and exfoliates skin -thus making skincare perform @ a higher level. The peach fuzz absolutely DOES NOT come in thicker or darker!

    • @gidget_
      @gidget_ Год назад +7

      Can I use a normal razer without gel or anything like that on the razer it's self or should I stick with Tinkle razer? I'm going to start doing this, but I don't want to cut myself. Lol. Would it be easier or harder with a normal razer? Thank you. Oh, and do I use anything else on the skin before I shave? I know nothing like shaving gel, but face wash or just dry skin? Sorry, I have so many questions, but I want to get it right. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me. 😊

    • @MT-hk9cp
      @MT-hk9cp Год назад +7

      @@gidget_ nope. I use a Sima dermaplaning tool from Target for 29.99 and it comes with special razors. I used to use a regular razor but there is a sugnificant difference with a dermaplaning tool.
      Ut

    • @gidget_
      @gidget_ Год назад

      @@MT-hk9cp oh okay thank you. I'll go pick one up and try it.

    • @jaxl1931
      @jaxl1931 Год назад +1

      Omg I've been wanting to try it but was scared. I'm going to trust your advice and go for it, thanks!

    • @StacyJo97
      @StacyJo97 Год назад

      Do you use any sort of serum? or do you use the tinkle on dry skin?

  • @joywimer4281
    @joywimer4281 Год назад +1

    These two have the BEST SMILES 😁 and are so knowledgeable!!! so interesting and intelligent 🤓 love listening to them

  • @aanushkawaes
    @aanushkawaes Год назад +33

    I used aloe vera ice cubes and it was sooooooo good. My skin looked more relaxed after 3 months of use

  • @meganz020
    @meganz020 3 года назад +161

    I love the chemistry between these two

    • @denniswilliam8867
      @denniswilliam8867 3 года назад +1

      Hello Megan, how are you?

    • @yayo27
      @yayo27 3 года назад +23

      @@denniswilliam8867 bye not u flirting in the comments 💀💀

    • @snehathapa584
      @snehathapa584 3 года назад +23

      @@yayo27 grandpa is a freaky gyal 😩💅

  • @pikachurk4836
    @pikachurk4836 3 года назад +10

    love how his videos are so structured. like here's the intro and here's the thing u want to know about

  • @Divineminds111
    @Divineminds111 Год назад +3

    You two are awesome together!! I appreciate all the honesty and point of view as professionals 🔥🤍✨ Thank you!! Honesty is what our society needs!

  • @MamaT160
    @MamaT160 Год назад +1

    You guys are fun to watch and very informative. I cringe to think what some people out there are doing to their skin. Take care of it, yes indeed, but if the promises seem over the top, they usually are. If some of this stuff worked, everybody would be doing it, including the doctors. Thanks for helping sort all this out.

  • @veronicad.2433
    @veronicad.2433 2 года назад +1

    Thank u for your videos! Very pleasant to watch and the honesty about things is so refreshing and so needed! So many products so much hype hard to know what to believe! So thank u so much!! Love your personalities and smiles!!! Love your videos!!!!🌻

  • @sereneconaway4791
    @sereneconaway4791 3 года назад +221

    When he said he was leaving the mask on for an hour I gasped so loud my next-door neighbors probably heard me

  • @rosem6885
    @rosem6885 3 года назад +182

    I was diagnosed with PCOS about 34 years ago. So I have struggled with mild-to-moderate facial hair most of my adult life. I recently started using a tinkle razor and I absolutely love it. My makeup has never been so smooth. Going to watch your video now on how to shave like a dermatologist. I figure I can always improve my technique.

    • @grazsts3005
      @grazsts3005 3 года назад +3

      Have you thought about laser hair removal?

    • @misscolts
      @misscolts 3 года назад +5

      Weird question but were you able to get pregnant?

    • @rosem6885
      @rosem6885 3 года назад +8

      @@misscolts I never had children, but I am single and never tried.

    • @rosem6885
      @rosem6885 3 года назад +9

      @@grazsts3005 I have not. I have friends that have done it with not much success. I am 52 years old and my facial hair is starting to grow in very pale. My understanding is the hair must be dark for the lasers to be effective.

    • @jacquelinemichele
      @jacquelinemichele 3 года назад +7

      I love them too! I used to do threading but now I just use the tinkle razors on my mustache and sides of face. Unfortunately if I have acne I can’t do it because it does irritate.

  • @Americanbeauty25
    @Americanbeauty25 Год назад

    I love Dr. Shah his advice has helped me a lot. I have Pcos and I’m glad he brought that up.

  • @klaustoret3198
    @klaustoret3198 Год назад

    Love their advice. I hope many people watch them.

  • @sjblack9135
    @sjblack9135 3 года назад +11

    These two are just a joy to watch

  • @andis4156
    @andis4156 3 года назад +74

    Honestly with Gua shua I do it lightly bc it helps my face relax after work...not expecting my double chin to vanish lol

  • @CarrieArt7
    @CarrieArt7 2 года назад

    Dr. Maxfield's laughter is infectious.

  • @nandavanhouten5831
    @nandavanhouten5831 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much guys! I was wondering about the face shaving and you clarified it for me! Awesome!!! ❤

  • @TheMePlusU4Eva
    @TheMePlusU4Eva 3 года назад +196

    I have severe eczema, so ice on flare ups help so much.. especially right after a shower. I have an ice pack next to my bed, just in case I scratch while sleeping..

    • @saumyabajaj3523
      @saumyabajaj3523 3 года назад +6

      Same, ice packs are saviour for us.

    • @kendreaneufeld794
      @kendreaneufeld794 3 года назад +22

      I had no clue THANK YOU!! My 6 year old has horrible eczema and claws his skin in his sleep :(

    • @alishawilliamshunt6441
      @alishawilliamshunt6441 3 года назад

      Omg I’m gonna try this because always itch while sleeping too!!

    • @TheMePlusU4Eva
      @TheMePlusU4Eva 3 года назад +5

      Try Aloe Vera! It dries really bad, but it will dry up your flare ups that are red! Which are the most itchy! It minimized my biggest flare up a while ago since I was going through steroid withdrawal. Straight up aloe Vera plant! Rub the inside of the plant on your skin, let it dry. Sleep and shower it off the next day and moisturize! Do it for days! Maybe even twice a day.

    • @a.e4648
      @a.e4648 3 года назад +1

      If I'm not mistaken from what I learned, hyaluronic helps draw moisture so it can probably help with your eczema. Nonetheless, still follow what your doctor advices

  • @Carosaurio
    @Carosaurio 3 года назад +2208

    The ordinary peeling solution literally says on the box: "don't leave on the skin for more than 10 minutes".
    This random guy: "Okay, so I'm going to leave this on for an hour, see ya!".
    READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND FOLLOW THEM, it's not so hard.

    • @raerohan4241
      @raerohan4241 3 года назад +107

      Honestly that’s probably the main cause behind the majority of TO’s negative reviews. For some reason people just cannot. Follow. Instructions! Which is a really bad thing when you’re working with concentrated anything

    • @charlottehaines741
      @charlottehaines741 2 года назад +15

      Yeah, I can't even believe they didn't point the issues out on what he was using after he used the micro needling!! Holy Cow!!!

    • @sujapandey752
      @sujapandey752 2 года назад +18

      And the irony is that guy might have 1000 of followers and they're definitely gonna follow him blindly.

    • @drummachine5787
      @drummachine5787 2 года назад +17

      @@raerohan4241 that’s the main cause of negative reviews for literally everything

    • @Pupperpie
      @Pupperpie 2 года назад +18

      Ikr. The peel is supposed to PEEL. Not to penetrate like wtf? It’s meant to exfoliate the outermost layer. Even a non skincare expert can see the logic in that????

  • @c.uni2370
    @c.uni2370 2 года назад +169

    I will say gua sha has been so beneficial to my skin, and knowing where it comes from. I keep that mindset that it’s more for healing vs treating appearance (beauty). No it won’t change ur bone structure (something needed by cosmetic surgery) but it’s definitely beneficial to the skin & it’s always in my skincare routine.

    • @eenzamevriend7183
      @eenzamevriend7183 Год назад +15

      I love it and for sure helps with puffiness, lymphatic drainage, waking up my skin and waking up in general, it’s relaxing and I feel and look more rejuvenated. It even helped clear my acne and break up scars so I have nothing but good to say.

    • @tsuyuasui7297
      @tsuyuasui7297 Год назад +1

      What type of gua sha do yall use¿

    • @tsuyuasui7297
      @tsuyuasui7297 Год назад

      ​@@eenzamevriend7183 Do you use an expensive Gua sha

    • @TrinaGallo
      @TrinaGallo Год назад

      I can SEE the difference Gua Sha has made. It took a while to learn the proper way to use. Now I don’t wanna skip a day. 😊

    • @TrinaGallo
      @TrinaGallo Год назад +1

      @@tsuyuasui7297My 1st tool was pretty inexpensive. But now I got the Lanshin Pro! It’s the face oil that’s expensive!

  • @mamamememoo
    @mamamememoo 2 года назад +289

    For those who pan facial guasha and write it off, i would love to share that my experience with it has been really good. My water retention went down and the lymphatic drainage has give my overall appearance better contour at the jaw line. My dark eye circles also improved and because you tackle acupressure points for your organs on the face, it’s good for your health too. My face has been glowing after I started doing facial guasha daily.

    • @aimejasmine3772
      @aimejasmine3772 2 года назад +8

      Hi can u tell me more abt how you do gua sha at eye area? I've been doing gua sha only at my jaw and would love to try for my eyes area as well

    • @bitoddinnit955
      @bitoddinnit955 2 года назад +29

      That's been my experience. It helps with the sinus pressure and subsequent drainage from using it. I literally be spitting loogies once I start sweeping towards past my jaw. Helps my puffiness!

    • @literaryjunkie6987
      @literaryjunkie6987 2 года назад +3

      @@bitoddinnit955 yesss! The sinus pressure relief is ahmazzing!

    • @andilenkosi7396
      @andilenkosi7396 2 года назад +3

      Same. I get instant results because I get puffy eyes

    • @meowsparkles537
      @meowsparkles537 Год назад +2

      I had instant results on my puffiness. I think Gua Sha is more effective than those disposeable eye mask pads IMO

  • @marinasantiago9337
    @marinasantiago9337 3 года назад +4

    I love how the doctors are honest ! 💕💕💕❤️

  • @ayeshajahan1291
    @ayeshajahan1291 3 года назад +4

    Amazing video. Plz keep making videos on the trending beauty and makeup hacks, so that we can prevent ourselves from harming our skin, rather than improving it. It was really helpful.

  • @monpetitchouxpastry
    @monpetitchouxpastry 2 года назад +5

    God I am SOOO glad you approve of dermaplaning / shaving the face because it’s honestly changed my life lol

  • @rachelattack
    @rachelattack Год назад +4

    A clean, natural bristle body brush is great for applying to the back. It's also useful for physical exfoliation on knees and legs or anywhere if you're gentle

  • @yanizrodriguez954
    @yanizrodriguez954 3 года назад +3

    I'm so glad you aprove the shaving face hack. I being doing this for like 1 year, and my facial hair is not growing thicker at all. Exfoliates my skin and it looks so glowing after I do it.

  • @sushmitamishra7669
    @sushmitamishra7669 3 года назад +5

    Love your videos! You guys give such great information but somehow your tone and the format of the video is easy to take in for skincare newbies without it being overwhelming.

  • @rubaiatasnim843
    @rubaiatasnim843 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for clarifying so many myths with logical explanation

  • @theresamccue5891
    @theresamccue5891 Год назад +13

    Love you guys ❤️ thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us 😘

  • @rainydays999
    @rainydays999 3 года назад +15

    I love my Tinkle razors! I'm 65 and I have had some peach fuzz growth due to changing hormones...I think. It takes a little practice and there is definitely a specific technique or they just won't work. But Tinkle are the best I've tried and it's not difficult. I have never cut myself with this razor and I don't believe that my hair grows back in thicker. I love the smooth look and feeling it leaves.

  • @lorangeeter7338
    @lorangeeter7338 3 года назад +762

    Im so happy that the Tinkle was approved because I wasn’t gonna stop 🤣 it makes my skin look so good lol

    • @chrissym1372
      @chrissym1372 2 года назад +13

      I'm thinking about starting this but was wondering- how often do you use it?

    • @seenawu9996
      @seenawu9996 2 года назад +29

      I did it yesterday for the first time and my skin is glowing and Im real glad it's approved.

    • @organicc00chie
      @organicc00chie 2 года назад +4

      RIGHT lmao

    • @sagnikaghoshal3881
      @sagnikaghoshal3881 2 года назад +1

      Same here

    • @zahara9427
      @zahara9427 2 года назад +2

      @@seenawu9996 what do you put on your face before dermaplaning?

  • @LIBREPUB
    @LIBREPUB Год назад

    These two crack me up while giving great information

  • @MisNikkiAshlee
    @MisNikkiAshlee 2 года назад +1

    Just discovered this channel and I love it! So helpful and informative. Thank you ♥♥

  • @WhiteMoonBloom
    @WhiteMoonBloom 2 года назад +6

    Thank you for your awesome videos! I am an Esthetician and always have clients asking me about the latest skin care trends... Someone recently brought me a home dermarolling device and asked my opinion... I had never seen one before, but my immediate reaction was 'I don't think that's a good idea' ... Im so greatful you just explained what my intuition was telling me.
    You guys are great and very helpful! 💖🥰

  • @jakobie
    @jakobie 3 года назад +10

    Appreciate the thought of not only pronouncing Gua Sha correctly but more importantly, educating the rest of the world of its true use and benefits without disrespecting its long standing position in East Asian culture.

  • @charlenebenfield1378
    @charlenebenfield1378 2 года назад +4

    You guys are silly but always so informative. I'm 56 and have loved skin care for 30 years. Way back then you either went to a derm, or educated yourself and lots of trial and error. The tried and trues of years ago are still the top ones today, but there are so many great things we have access to. I always learn something new.. And I am really so grateful than you share your knowledge for free.i like to watch your videos twice, you guys are hilarious when muted

  • @Tessitura9
    @Tessitura9 Год назад +18

    "Aaaaaaah, it burns!! Ok so I'm gonna keep this one for an hour..." 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @MarisseReyes
    @MarisseReyes 3 года назад +144

    You both have great chemistry and it seems like you both have a lot of fun filming these videos. Watching 70% for the good vibes and 30% for the skincare tips 👌🏽

    • @astagirl2
      @astagirl2 2 года назад

      Žž

    • @danyavilaoficial
      @danyavilaoficial 2 года назад +3

      Clearly “in love”

    • @TheFaro2011
      @TheFaro2011 2 года назад +3

      Their personalities just work so well. They're both nice guys.

  • @victorialerdal7986
    @victorialerdal7986 2 года назад +86

    I've done dermaplaning at home for eleven years, can testify that my hair does not grow in thicker at all. Still just peach fuzz 😊

    • @Priyakumari_3004
      @Priyakumari_3004 2 года назад

      Is it pricky when it starts growing??

    • @ayeshasiddiqah1871
      @ayeshasiddiqah1871 2 года назад

      @@Priyakumari_3004 uuuuuuh18i1o191im1llkoo

    • @jelly4074
      @jelly4074 Год назад +1

      What you need to learn is how to quit? 11 years.. why??

  • @asmaqadir7509
    @asmaqadir7509 7 месяцев назад

    I just wanna say only one thing that I actually love when doc shah smile

  • @monicaceja7692
    @monicaceja7692 2 года назад +2

    #2 video :)))I can t, I almost pee myself, leave it on for an hour lol you guys hold the cry laugh so good, I loved this one,thanks for brighting my night!!

  • @tammimesce6537
    @tammimesce6537 3 года назад +4

    I just discovered your channel! Love you guys - so fun to watch and listen to, and I appreciate the sound skin care advice. Can't wait to watch more!

  • @morrischen5628
    @morrischen5628 3 года назад +167

    Thank you for respecting gua sha as a traditional health practice! Those beauty claims are absolutely outrageous but gua sha is super effective for many other things, like heat stroke. You also don't have to necessarily use so much force that you bruise the skin for it to be effective.

    • @aikaterini5102
      @aikaterini5102 2 года назад +3

      I didn't see much respect though.

    • @Joysings86
      @Joysings86 Год назад +19

      @@aikaterini5102 He was respectful to the culture, but not impressed with popular culture using it incorrectly.

    • @aikaterini5102
      @aikaterini5102 Год назад +2

      @@Joysings86 no.

    • @kphoria1009
      @kphoria1009 Год назад +9

      @@aikaterini5102 saying “no” isn’t proving your point

  • @lalayatem3758
    @lalayatem3758 2 года назад

    Thank you guys, God bless you both!

  • @kerenton5897
    @kerenton5897 2 года назад +6

    Dermarolling works well for hair loss, it stimulates follicles, though definitely don't drag and use 1-1.5mm depth, also don't use a roller at all -- use a pen/stamp module because than it doesn't 'roll' aka drag.