3 WAYS TO DO STAIRS
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2018
- i did these steps 3 different ,you tell me if there is a visual difference , or if you notice any difference at all , on January the 9th i will post another video revealing witch steps were done witch way, and my opinion witch way i like best and why.
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Thank you so much for this video! We just had some new carpet installed by contractors in our house, and a few of the stairs had some loose spots over the tack strips on the sides. I tried your little trick of tapping the edges down into the groove, and that did it. Looks amazing now!
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Man, I can’t thank you enough for this video! Never tackled stairs before, or even laying carpet in general. By far the best video I’ve come across on the topic. Answered all of my questions and saved me a ton of time.
Nice work boss .
I wish customers go with this type of carpet all the time :) easy to work with.
Thank you
Mohammad Juma thank you and yes it is easy to work with mid grade carpet is my favorite carpet To install
Thank you so much for taking the time to clarify for me. Ordered my carpet today and I am very excited! Thank you again :-)
Jenny Lyn Sparrow You’re welcome, good luck on your project I hope it turns out beautiful for you
Best video I've seen on the subject. Cheers.
Sindig0 Thank you appreciate that
Great video, very informative! I’ll be tackling this project shortly, will definitely use this information!
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Lol. I love that you have all the exact same tools I do. Same shooter. Same kicker. Same staples. Stare tool.
Thanks for your experiment and contribution to science.
I’m sorry my English is not really good but I have to thank you for your video was really good as a support in my job it helps me a lot your explanation was so clear and I did as the way you say THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS VIDEO
Satra Montra I am so glad I could be of help, and thank you so much for your feedback
Excellent video mate, you've given me the confidence to do it my self as you cant get any fitters in the UK at the moment due to the lock down, stay safe cheers again.
Boyd Hill Awesome, good luck my friend
Boyd how did it go?
Great tutorial! Just what I needed! Thanks a lot!:)
Glad it helped!
Great attention to detail. Perfect. Nice video. Clear and concise. Thx for taking the time
Good video and great work. I can't tell the difference in the 3. Thanks
Peter Dimperio Thank you I appreciate that and I appreciate you for watching thank U, if you happen to think of anything that I have not covered in previous videos I am open for recommendations
Thanks for the video
Just did my first set of stairs
Dan Silker cool, i hope they turned out great
Great video my man. I liked how you showed different methods. I plan on doing my basement stairs and I am going to do the tread method
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I usually put the tack strip in or not depending on the style of carpet
Carmen Ruggiro Yep that’s me
Thank you for your video. I used it to learn enough to my own steps. Mine isn't perfect, but it's good.
AWESOME
great video's been trying to learn to install carpet on stairs I've done rooms flat floor but never done stairs . good info in this video
Thank you sir
Thank you very much. From Gabriola Island, British Columbia, Canada.
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Now thats how you install carpet on the steps.i tried to show people that worked with me the same way and they still have trouble doing it.keep up the good work.
John Alley Thank you sir
@@FloorsbySouthernboys anytime
John Alley 👍
great job, thanks for sharing this.
Dave Thawley You’re welcome thank you for watching and thank you for your comment
Always taught top to bottom that way u trap the riser in on landing and work down.you bolster carpet in as you go down being carefully not to go through it.then lean your weight on hammer and smooth up onto grips to take any slack up.also no underlay on riser the edge of gripper can rub on backing of carpet if customer rubs heel as they come down stairs on riser then gripper edge cuts into backing of carpet.the idea is if you use gripper you use underlay too soo carpet similar height to grips no bump then just hooks on gripper perfectly.like the gripper on the sides although normally only on twists.no need for carpet stretcher to be fair.I also like to roll sides of carpet leave a gap on underlay and carpet drops in.ive found u cut width too net will fray.always cut slightly bigger so cut edge rolled and protected.
Good video just different methods.
Paul Machin yup thank you
Been there done that, I truly understand the carpet installation process been doing it for 40 yrs,now just side jobs.........
Robert Missimer just 26 years for me I don’t see how people last 40 and 50 years doing this I’m looking at maybe five More years tops, this is breaking my body down
@@FloorsbySouthernboys but what would you do after installing carpet for so long?
Steve If I install the tax strip I only put it on the tread
Good video,will have a go at my own stairs cheers
Karl Naus
Thank you sir
Thanks for the great video!
Jason Lewis 😀👍You’re welcome
Your doing a great job showing the different ways they are installed!!! Customer should pick one of the 3 methods of appearance which is one of three ways to do step are "contour" "Waterfall" "runner" these are the 3 different looks!
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Thank you
I always strip the riser when doing waterfall. None when doing bullnose. Always like strip on the side of the treads as well. I feel that ticking the sides look better and prevents fraying of the cut edges
Great video, one of the best I’ve seen for how to carpet stairs and the different methods, I will be doing this in the next few weeks, thanks!
Awesome, good luck my friend I hope they turned out beautiful
Well? How they turn out lol
@@FloorsbySouthernboys yes! they turned out very well, added the 1/8" like you suggested and they tucked in nicely! I wasn't exactly sure how to lay the pad, ended up wrapping it around the nosing and down the riser, which made it quite difficult stapling under the nosing lol, probably would do the pad a little different next time :)
Hi mate, I did a stairs landing today and I fitted the stairs just like the way you did in this video and I can't believe the difference in how they looked a thousand times better they looked than "waterfall"!
It's the first time I've done stairs that way and to be truthful I think I'm going all my stairs that way from now on.
It took me twice as long but it was all worth it because even the customer said they looked great,
I've never seen my stairs look so tight and clean.
I never used to put smooth edge on the sides of the stairs and when I hoovered up the sides would be loose but now I put Smooth edge the carpet stayed put.
Thanks for the video👍
sausage man Dude that is awesome it makes me feel so great when people do awesome jobs and then they learn from my videos and stuff like that I don’t want to get big headed don’t don’t give me wrong I’m not trying to get big headed but when somebody improves and does better and just didn’t doozy as him that you have it makes me proud man it makes me want to just keep making more videos and aunt and I just love it man I love the way you try to improve all the time that’s how you get better never stop improving never stop never stopping good job sausage man proud of you
FloorsbySouthernboys well, all thanks to you my friend, my name is "David" anyway😂 I put that name up ages ago just to create an account.
When I started out I never thought I'd be using the same methods that made me a better floor layer from a guy that lives in Arizona!
Hey!! You never know I may come and work with you for a week someday to learn from the master 😂
sausage man Thank you for the compliment David but I hardly consider myself a master
FloorsbySouthernboys well compared to most guys I've work with you up the with the best.
sausage man Well thank you
Thank you
Shane Conley Glad to be of help
Love this video,there are few ways to do depending on who you are working for and what type of carpet you are installing. I never put the tack strip on the side,sorry but to many people complain when they walk barefoot
Robert Missimer That’s cool if everybody agreed on every single thing we would be robots that would be a boring world to live in so it’s cool to express your own opinion
There so many things people don't understand what goes into the work!!
Robert Missimer true
Beautiful!
You honestly do a great job. Wish you were around Chicago
😀👍thank you
Amazing to see how we all do things . Here in Ireland it’s 90% waterfall with double grips ( strip on riser & thread ) . Also nobody grips the sides unless it’s a kite or winder (turn) step . Some people will request bullnose style , me personally hate it . We never use a knee kick on a step either. Still great video 👍
Also we nearly all work from the top down . Rubber mallet is handy too instead of a hammer 👍
Tony Bennett Well thank you I appreciate that
cut your carpet to size, roll it then unroll as you fit one at a time
Installing carpet with the waterfall technique is becoming a lost art. Don't think there's many who can install on the bottom big step or bullnose with the waterfall technique. Sewing those and caps is a lost art as well.
Doing it the right way nice as always boss
Don victory Thank you sir
I'm wondering which way is your favorite. Great video. Thanks for sharing!
Plants On Purpose
I like it with the tack strip in the back of the tread And on the sides
Thanks for the video!
I want to put carpet down only on the tread, what would be best, tack strip on the tread and side of, staple gun and side tack? Also should I be doing underlay?
Yes you want to put underlay, and I will staple the front and tack strip the sides and back
Thank you for the video! I am going to try the staple method of doing my back stairs. Question… Do you cut off the carpet after stapling down on the tread each time before you begin to do the next rise and tread? It looks like the other two methods using tac strip can be done in a continuous piece of carpet. Thank you for your answer.
Jenny Lyn Sparrow no ma’am, it can be done in a continuous piece as long as your stairs run straight, if your steps get wider or narrower then that’s when you have to cut a separate piece, as long as they are straight you can run a continuous piece
Thank you Sir!
Interesting where I’m from we only use electric staple gun . No tack strip unless concrete steps once in a blue moon . Then we use the tack strip method. But never seen anyone use tack strip on the sides . I always contour (Chicago style ) or whatever you call yours lol also . Just a tip we all use white rubber mallets instead of hammer. Not as loud hitting the stair tool . Thanks for sharing .
I have enjoyed your video sir and still learning.
Good work there
Thank you
Thank you.
Arreola Rodriguez You’re welcome
Great videos.
Joel Ressell Thank you sir
I enjoy your videos, never too old to learn some new things, but I always used tack strips on the tread, risers, and sides of the tread. Showing my age, but carpet tackers were never used on any part of an installation when I first learned the installation business. They are great tools, and I have used them but "tackless" will hold much better than a carpet tacker. The carpet will at times pull right through the staples. Not to mention an Axminster carpet would be destroyed in no time if only installed with a carpet tacker. Keep focusing on the quality of your work. I am trying to be constructive in my comments, keep up the good work and videos.
Thank you sir, you feedback is appreciated
Thanks
thank you great lesson
You’re welcome
Nice job
I may try the strip on the side.I don't understand if you have a thicker pad why it doesn't roll off on your strip?Does it look like it falls off on your walls?
Aaron Payne No sir even with a half inch pad I have never noticed it dropping off by the wall
I do carpet repair and most steps don’t have tack strips on the sides.
When a customer calls with wrinkles on the steps I have to explain to them that yes I can get most of the winking out but you will see a few dimples on each side from my carpet staples.
One day I hope to do a wrinkle repair and find those side tack strips.
I Wish it was common practice to do it your way.
Much better
Hi there, can you tell me what knives you use. In UK our general knives are the Delphins but you guys seem to use the same type. Also your staple guns look alit better. What's the make? Cheers
orcon action knife staple gun is duofast
My old roberts kicker looked just like yours almost same missing paints spots and everything poor old thing snapped in two a few years back
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Thanks wish me luck 🤞
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Awsome Job I thought you have to cut each individual step, now I know is one complete piece 😀
George Reed You can do one piece as long as the steps are straight, if they get an arrow at the top four wide at the top then you have to split it and cut a wider or more narrow piece to make it fit
Im a fitter from the UK been fitting 16 years, we fit them differently, i also though in america they cap and band every step separately, i prefer this way of fitting though i wish they fitted like this in the uk
Don't your find that it leaves an unnecessary gap on the riser when you upholster the stair with tack? I understand it with waterfall, but not sure why you would with an upholstered step, does it seem to help on installation?
hello. nice job. Can you tell me how much you charge people for same stairs job?? 150? thank you
Daniel Kawrow $12 for bullnose stamps plus yardage
What stair tool do you have? Been wanting to know the difference between Roberts and Crain.
Decker Morgan Mine is a Crain , But they do not make them like the one mine is anymore, the one that took its place is a little bit smaller, they have the small ones and big ones mine is a medium one because it’s over 20 years old
Nice edit but I am still wondering if that stair tool was stuck between those tack strips.
Mellow Man 😂 no sir
I get where your coming from
In Cal. We call those "Hollywood stairs" nosing exposed -no strip on riser -
But there's also "waterfall stairs" nosing Not exposed
- Yes strip on riser -
I myself always strip on tread usually double wide (commercial strip)
Doing high end work almost always wool or berber
Or some fancy crap decorators pick out
Good job tho bud 😊
Thank you my friend that is mostly what I am doing now as well
When you are carpeting the stairs using more than one piece of carpet (in case one step is wider, or you don’t have adequate length for the whole set of stairs), do you start from the top or the bottom?
Always start with the bottom step and work your way up and always square the bottom of the carpet
Good job 👏🏽
Thank you
Can you make a video on how to cut stripe carpet for stairs as there’s not many videos on that
Jeff Brown Just to soon as I get an opportunity I sure will
FloorsbySouthernboys thanks
Great video! I’ve just removed old carpet and crumbling underlay (I think it’s about 30 years old). I’m going to replace the underlay. Do I need to replace the carpet grippers?
You might as well while you’re at it, no sense to change it out 30 year old carpet and leave in the same grippers
Hey, I just wanted to update you that I finished my steps myself and I have to say I’m really happy with the end result. I wanted to show you but I don’t think I can upload a pic on here.
I’ve uploaded the video on my page if you’re curious. Thanks for the tips
Handsome work
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I've been doing flooring for more than 30 years and there are 100 different ways to do any job. If you are busy, don't have call backs and have repeat customers who give you the next job without asking price in advance you know you are doing something right. I have seen some wierd stuff through the years like a circular pie staircase done in one big piece.
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Nice job, thank you for taking the time to film this. I'm about to attempt my first stair run. I've laid carpets before but never stairs so your guidance is invaluable
awesome ! good luck
Thanks
Peter Gillam 👍
Thanks cool dude
You bet
Your way is different than mine but doesn’t mean we’re wrong. Also if you put tack strip on the bottom of riser and on the stair you can can work your way down with just the chisel.
Ali Nehme You’re exactly right, that was the point of this video, showing that there is a bunch a ways to do things without everyone being wrong
Great video. Could you tell me which size staple you use? I would like to buy a staple gun to do my carpet job.
3/16 crown and 9/16 leg
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Thanks, mate
Amazing great good nice ♥️🗡️🔥
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No difference at all! Very clean and neat!!!
It's such a plush carpet I can't tell! In all my years I've never screwed gripper to stairs I've always used my staple gun. I like the tip about the angle of your staple gun under the bull-nose. I totally agree with you to gripper the riser and tread you'll never have a more tighter safer step, when I fit stairs I go top down I've tried bottom to top and I didn't like it! plus how do you match striped stairs when you start from the bottom?
sausage man if I was doing some striped steps I would do the top flap first where it comes out of the hallway measure over from And Row cut the rest of my steps to where they would match up with the top not an issue that’s how I do steps That have a pattern match
FloorsbySouthernboys when you get some striped stairs you'll have to do a video to show me.👍
sausage man Will do
Ps what knife blades do you use as mine go blunt after a few cuts
personna or better tools
Can you show the waterfall method...?
Should there be a tack on the base of the riser...?
Yup There should be
In engeland snijden ze het ondertapijt bij de voorkant van de trede af,
Ik vouw het ondertapijt om de trede heen, zo ktijg je een mooie volle trede.
Bert Eiling ???
Nice I have always done on the side the three different installers i learned from never did but I think it looks and makes a better job
do you use tack strips with outdoor/indoor carpet?
CONNIE HAWKINS A lot of people confuse commercial carpet with indoor outdoor carpet, if it is commercial carpet with an action back on it then yes at Tack strip
@@FloorsbySouthernboys no, its indoor/outdoor turf type going on wooden basement steps. i guess stapling or gluing are probably suitable.
Looks great l! ( ... and here I am thinking I would like a patterned carpet on my stairs.... that would probably add at least five times the work, matching, and cost...)
Red Berry Farm 😮 Yeah it will definitely add cost and labor, thank you for your feedback I appreciate
We're stepping on tack point from the tack strip at the crease of the steps. Im having to hammer down. Is this a poor job or common for all?
lmgpharm Sounds like they are not placed properly, you should not be able to step on them
Did you maybe put the tack strip backwards?
Thin carpet ?
Cheap fkn carpet
What size staples , and what type of staple gun do you use?
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Wouldn't you just love to see him try to fit a Roger Fells wilton?
it is necesary to drive screws on the wood?, i mean the tack strip has nails
He did that when the wood was a little flimsy and would not take a nail well without flexing and vibrating.
And the gap between the riser and gripper???
Hey bro how many feet does a seam tape has?
66
Question 🖐 what size staples do you need?
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What electric nail/staple gun are you using?
JTC Intl duo fast Electric staple gun
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Can u do a video on opening the carpet to fix a floor squeak ...
Joaquin Martinez That’s a very rare occasion but I will see what I can do
And can u open it where the carpet is not running the same way if possible ?
Thanks you
Joaquin Martinez Depending on where the squeak is you would probably be better off just fold in the carpet back fixing the floor and then laying the carpet back down without cutting it if you’re able to do that kind of depends on where the floor is squeaky
FloorsbySouthernboys can u show how to do a patch on carpet?
Great video! Could you please do a video where you put carpet on ONLY the treads? That's what I need to do. I don't want to carpet the risers. Thanks in advance!
Kimberly Gabaldon 😀👍
I’m about to attempt this also so this video was really helpful in seeing the different methods in installing carpet on stairs. I have a nail gun with staple or nail tacs. Which Would you recommend? I can also see you recommend from the nose to the riser which I assume keeps it all secure and tight? I’ve seen varying tools used. Thanks
I just removed the stair carpet the builder in stalled 20 years ago. I was quite surprised there was no tack strip anywhere, I never knew that was an option. And yet the carpet was nice and tight all these years without any issue from poor installation. They used about 7 staples across the width of the 36" steps, but you used a TON more staples. I was thinking I pity the poor guy who has to take all those staples out!
BluesriderDF 😂
i say put the tack strips on the face and save more staples and i like how the screws do stronger than nailing it or shooting it
Surely if it was a fine velvet carpet or fine loop, you will notice all the staples and the ridge from the tack strip on the riser..that carpet looked fine, but must depend a lot in the carpet being used.
ruclips.net/video/piMJe_0jhKc/видео.html this is the reveal and if you see what i say i'm sure you will agree
I always used tack strip and only strip the rise if the step has no nose and I am water falling them
I'm wondering if you are bullnosing the steps why are you tack stripping the rise?
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You said 3 different ways!! In the UK, we don't tack it under the nose as a rule, except for the bull nose!!
We just get it really tight from gripper to gripper...
I doubt you can answer in time, as my wife wants this done today, but how do you cut for diagonal steps at the top of a staircase?
Jaymee Smith measure diagonally from corner to corner and then measure from the point at the back of the step over to the floor in the front of the step And that will give you the size you need and you can go from there
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Thank You!
Jaymee Smith 👍
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Well, I got e'm done. Not the best in the world, but my wife likes it! Thanks again!
Jaymee Smith awesome, good job 👍
I have to learn how to carpet a house in a day or I'm going to get fired. My boss has to do all the carpet because nobody else knows how and I feel bad because he has to do all the work. Thanks for making me a professional
Different strokes for different folks Im a carpet fitter over thirty years and was trained by a old school fitter,I have never had a call back on a flight of stairs, I never used gripper on side of steps, never needed to I just measured twice and cut once Sinai was as tight to the wall as one can be, Tacking? staples? I would have been fired!! And never did I use a hammer to tuck between thread and riser I used a blunted bolster chisel and used force of my hand of course never hitting at an angle but directly at where I would know the joint would be from thread to riser. The only times tacks staples would be used is in the bull nose or if they were open steps. I guess these method’s would do for a novice not enough yardage £££ in a stairs and landing to play around with gripping the side and using a stretcher where a stretcher was never designed to be used. But like I said different strokes …..
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Never put smoothedge on the riser when you're doing bullnose stairs. 8th step from the landing had smoothedge on riser cause the lump is obvious.
I actually "kick" the width rather than little push you give. That's the old way. A smart installer does width with a "kneeless" installation tool. Waterfall style stems from stair cases that don't have a nose but the riser is slanted where it meets the tread below it. How you place your tackless when doing waterfall with noses will depend on the angle of the carpet as it comes down, and the thickness of the carpet. Installed too high an you will only catch the first row of pins. Waterfall is a good alternative when the noses are small and the carpet is thin.
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