We MAX OUT 1 Stat For Every Pokemon, Then We Battle!
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
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What if you could take any stat and completely max it out for 1 Pokemon! Well we did that for a full team then battle!
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Shedinga with max hp would be literally indestructable
You should have given kyurem freeze-dry over ice fang
@@vincentwilliams4343 fr
Ditto with max HP wouldve been INSANE
Fr, crazy miss. Would've had 2 maxed stats
Tobin missed both.
honestly could of taken Rhydon with max sp def, eviolite, it aint dying.
and max hp Ditto would be insane.
Blissey with max physical defense XD
Cloyster with max special defense would’ve been crazy
My instant reaction at that round too
The most terrifying option i see?
Max HP Shuckle
In general, i think the best way to go about this challenge is not "what do i make even better" but "what problematic stat can i remove", you gain a lot more bst if you buff the lowest stat of a mon instead of an already high one
Or max HP imposter ditto with choice scarf
For large part yes, but also mons are generally designed around their best stat, like a defensive mon probably has defensive typings, or a heavy hitter probably has heavy hitting moves
Lot of pokemon is about making a good mon better, not shoring up their weaknesses (Square cube law etc, improving good has bigger impact)
@@jaredduncan8495 don't really even need scarf in this, with max hp you tank basically anything cuz you've got opposing poke with basically 3.5x as much hp and if you give it lefties or smth it's just a lot better imo.
@@PJOZeus I mean, yes and no, some mons just need one stat to be supercharged to go from mid to busted or to knock out a particular weakness, like imagine Blissey with max defense or a slow powerhouse like Rhyperior with max speed. A challenge like this is a good way to overcome the weaknesses of certain Pokemon that just happen to be lacking in certain areas, though amplifying their best qualities isn't a terrible idea, it's just that doing so is ignoring some other really interesting possibilities (though obviously you wouldn't want to arbitrarily enhance stats either, not much point in maxing out the special attack of a physical attacker after all.)
If there was Ditto with max HP he copies all but the HP Stat of the opponent making it 2 max stats unless they swapped to the mx hp pokemon
Tobin throwing back to back picks.
Max sp def eviolite Rhydon would be cracked.
Max HP ditto would be INSANE
Max hp leftovers ditto and max spdef cloyster
@@kristeenlivesay2664 I raise you a max physical attack with a good old shell smash + white herb + skill link
Throw in max SpAtk Sheer Force Life Orb Lando too
Also max hp uxie is so bulky. Imagine blissey health with 130 for both defenses
My thoughts, too. Max HP ditto was an OBVIOUS choice.
Imagine Max HP Shuckle or Dusclops
Literally, the second coming of Dussy 😂
max defence blissey would be even better than max hp dusclops.
@@albedo2433 max defense chansey.. with eviolite.
Max HP Shedinja
Imagine a ditto full hp copying a shuckle max attack. It would be the highest attack, hp , defense and special defense in the entire game
Tobin: "I feel like his speed is kinda crazy, so why give him speed"
Also Tobin: max speed, swift swim Kingdra
I was just confused by him picking a damn kingdra to go with speed when a rhyperior is on the screen. Give that thing max speed and with its already amazing att and def if would be sooo much better
@@MrJarik1 finally thank you, someone said it, All they keep saying is "max spdef" but dude, evolve it to rhyperior and max its speed and boom it's a high attack speedster, I love watching them but sometimes it does get annoying sometimes with their pick
@@pat2rick26 Honestly! These guys were picking to boost a pokemon's already great stat instead of boosting something that has already great stats and upping it's poor stat to max (Like making a glass cannon have max def or something)
This was a cool idea but it actually made me realise you could use a similar one for a regular "then we battle" video. Why not - before seeing your starters - declare a stat and you must take whichever starter is best in that stat. EG: Round one you declare "attack" - then turn around and whichever has the highest attack stat you must take it (if it's a tie you choose) and then you've used attack and can't use it again. After doing this once for each stat you have your team.
There are 6 stats to choose from, so perfect number for a team
Fun idea, love it.
Maybe not with them choosing the stat, but spinning the wheel, to get some randomness in play
Everyone talking about the ditto and the cloyster, but dylan not getting a max defense swoobat, which can simple calm mind and then stored power is funny
Yeah that's another option I saw in this. I was thinking having a frail poke with simple and ability to boost sp.def getting a lot more def would've been insane. Especially with maybe weakness policy too, which pairs great with simple.
Rocky was an MVP because Dylan understood the assignment with it. Buff the weakest stat. Do it correctly and you can make another Dussy.
Even if electric terrain woke up asleep mons, Landorus wouldn't be woken up because only Grounded pokémon are immune to sleep
Only grounded pokemon are affected by terrains* (I'm pretty sure that's what you meant to say anyways xD)
@@albedo2433 yeah that's what I meant
I think ditto with max hp is probably broken, missed opportunity for the little devil to shine.
Two 255 stats would be pretty good.
@@FrostyFyre did we forget imposter is a thing lol
@@FrostyFyre Imposter
Honestly yall didn’t meta game this enough it would’ve generally been better to remove a bad stat rather than improving an already good one
More value fr
Loved the concept. Sad Tobin treated it like a typical fight for half of it. It could’ve been Tobin’s win if he was figuring out which maxed stats were on each Mon based on his damage and yours.
I feel like Tobin straight up forgot his opponent could have max special defense lol.
I think Tobins biggest problem was he was too scared to act on his calls.
He was calling every switch at the start . Hated his line "if I call it wrong Im screwed" dude you got screwed cause you didnt call them.
Dylan- I got everything right , the next turn, now I’m confused 😂😂
LOL 😂
7:01 the fact Tobin got a sceptile after Dylan got a grovyle is wild
Yeaaa but they didn't pick it 😭
Dylan out here cheating cuz Koko does not get moonblast 😢
Yeah i noticed that too, but ig all I can say in this specific case is "If you don't get caught, is it really cheating?"
i dont know if the 15 bp difference between that and dazzling gleam wouldve really made a difference with 255 spa
@@abmutes3533 I'm pretty sure landorus would've survived one more turn and maybe would've gotten to wake up and earth power tapu koko, but dylan had a huge lead in the pokes he had left so he probs still would've won.
Yeah, some of these are weird - Pult should have Clear Body, Infiltrator, or Cursed Body, but not Pressure
Dylan going “I actually got all of these right” with almost none of them right 😂😂
LOL 😂 I was so happy watching it back
I mean, he was quite close on most later on, with basically only mistake being switching out of lando and grimmsnarl which is hp and which is sp.def
shuckle max hp would be interesting
My thoughts exactly
Or shedinja
@@johncox8527 Giga Chad play, give Shedinja 255 defense
Not Tobin missing reads. Fog of War was crazy on this one
Fr it was hard to watch.
Ngl Tobin threw not picking Ditto and maxing HP with imposter. Literally the best Pokémon in the game with that set😂
Edited: Changed Attack to HP
Pretty certain Ditto when transformed copies every stat except for HP so if he maxed HP it would’ve been ridiculous
Not picking eviolite rhydon max special defense is also a huge miss
When Ditto transforms all stats are copied from the opponent pokemon except HP, so maxed atk ditto do nothing, maxed HP does
Max attack ditto would be useless for this, max HP iw where it's at
@@TheAlexandrine that's what I meant, I mistyped lol
Tobin threw so hard every turn
Yeah fr im not even play competitively and just watch poke battle in youtube....
But every decision he choose from the start is hard to watch...
@@vian6990 that's because you know both pov
Tobin didn't pick possibly the best pokemon possible, Ditto with 255 hp
Here are the Max Stat Pokémon I created from your respective starter options:
Tobin’s Starters:
255 Sp. Atk. Kingdra: Moves: Dragon Pulse, Scald, Hurricane, Ice Beam. Ability: Swift Swim. Item: Choice Specs.
255 HP Ditto: Moves: Transform. Ability: Imposter. Item: Choice Scarf.
255 Speed Mamoswine: Moves: Earthquake or High Horsepower, Icicle Crash, Rock Slide, Knock Off. Ability: Thick Fat. Item: Choice Band.
255 Attack Sceptile: Moves: Leaf Blade, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Swords Dance. Ability: Unburden. Item: Focus Sash.
255 Defense Grimmsnarl: Moves: Foul Play, Spirit Break, Light Screen, Reflect. Ability: Prankster. Item: Light Clay.
255 Sp. Def. Charizard: Moves: Flamethrower, Roost, Toxic, Defog. Ability: Blaze. Item: Heavy-Duty Boots.
Dylan’s Starters:
255 HP Uxie: Moves: Psyshock, Draining Kiss, Nasty Plot, Substitute. Ability: Levitate. Item: Leftovers.
255 Attack Barraskewda: Moves: Liquidation, Close Combat, Crunch, Flip Turn. Ability: Swift Swim. Item: Choice Band.
255 Sp. Atk. Venusaur: Moves: Sludge Bomb, Giga Drain, Earth Power, Weather Ball. Ability: Chlorophyll. Item: Choice Scarf.
255 Defense Centiskorch: Moves: Fire Lash, Leech Life, Power Whip, Knock Off. Ability: Heavy-Duty Boots.
255 Speed Kyurem-White: Moves: Draco Meteor, Freeze-Dry, Fusion Flare or Flamethrower, Roost. Ability: Turboblaze. Item: Life Orb.
255 Sp. Def. Aggron: Moves: Head Smash, Earthquake, Stealth Rock, Protect. Ability: Rock Head. Item: Leftovers.
Genuinely one of the most enjoyable Then We Battle videos you've ever done. A great idea, and with the mons having normal abilities and moves as well it made it such a tactical battle instead of a powerhouse fest. Was so good to watch. Would love more of these!
Tobin made a MAJOR miss not taking the ditto and making it max HP. The HP stat carries over during transform, so a max HP ditto with imposter would just be a free use of two maxed stats. This is also why imposter blissey is run in the almost any ability category. If you transform into something with even a bit of a defensive presence, you become a MONSTER.
I just realised, did he name the Gothitelle "Your It" because of its ability shadow tag? If so, "Shadow tag your it" is awesome naming!
This is actually the most interesting "and then we battle" video I have seen in a while.
I love the "chess factor" it brings to a pokemon battle
My best team set up for each player -
Tobin:
1. 255 Sp. Def - Rhydon @ Eviolite/Lightningrod, Iron Defense | Body Press | Stealth Rock | Rest
2. 255 HP - Ditto @ Leftovers/Imposter
3. 255 Speed - Cloyster @ King's Rock/Skill Link, Icicle Spear | Pin Missile | Rock Blast | Substitute
4. 255 Atk Salamence @ Wide Lens/Moxie, Dragon Dance | Dual Wingbeat | Dragon Claw | Rock Slide
5. 255 Def - Grimmsnarl @ Eject Button/Prankster, Sunny Day | Body Press | Reflect | Light Screen
6. 255 Sp. Atk - Charizard @ Blunder Policy/Solar Power, Heat Wave | Air Slash | Solar Beam | Focus Blast
Dylan:
1. 255 HP - Uxie @ Leftovers/Pressure, Calm Mind | Stored Power | Baton Pass | Foul Play
2. 255 Sp Def - Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry/Intimidate, Parting Shot | Will O Wisp | Snarl | Overheat
3. 255 Def - Venusaur @ Big Root/Overgrow, Leech Seed | Sleep Powder | Toxic | Knock Off
4. 255 Sp. Atk - Tapu Koko @ Choice Scarf/Electric Surge, Volt Switch | Moonblast | Thunderbolt | Grass Knot
5. 255 Speed - Kyurem @ Power Herb/Teravolt, Freeze Shock | Fusion Bolt | Rock Slide | Substitute
6. 255 Atk - Dragapult @ Life Orb/Clear Body, Dragon Dance | Dragon Darts | Sucker Punch | Substitute
I love, love, love, LOOOOOOOOOVE this format, please bring this one back, maxed out stat? FUN!
One of my favourite videos of the random starters series, it was so interesting to see you guys go into so much details about the strategy!
I love love loved this format. All the bois should run videos like this.
This switching to each person to explain their picks and decisions, and the reasons why they make those choices. I love this content, great work!
I feel like Tobin forgot that the video’s gimmick applies to both players
Love this style of video, where you each have a moment to talk through your decisions and how you built the pokemon. ❤
i dont wanna hate but tobin trolled in this video so hard lmao
Ditto with max hp
Cloyster with max spdef
Swoobat at with max fed (and simple calm mind)
So many good opportunities missed. Super awesome idea for a video though.
I've seen so many people being critical of choices so I just wanted to say Awesome video. Thank you both for putting in so much work to create entertainment for the people.
I really think due to the format in which starters were chosen it made this the most competitive and entertaining then we fight video yet across all the boys channels.
I really feel the “I’ve missed you” from Tobin 😂
Yeah honestly fun
Identifying their sets generally doesn't matter a damn in these videos but figuring out what they picked (watching you do so I should say) was a unique and interesting twist
Would be down to see another episode of this, perhaps with lukey
next time could you randomize the stats you max out or reverse it where you make 1 stat the lowest you can
Making one stat be lowest is kinda useless. Could get Calyrex-Shadow and then they just say "I'm gonna nerf my Attack for this one." and they basically just get a buffed calyrex-shadow (buffed since lower attack makes you take less from foul play.)
@@albedo2433 i am just suggesting things idk how broken/bad something might turn out i just wanna see some funny things happen
Gotta love Tobin feeding every attacker to its counter and just going “well I guess 255 stats and +2 setup just aren’t very good.”
I like when yall can talk while playing
mamoswine and landorus "You have one ground type for my immunity on volt switch"
I'm always happy to see my friend Maractus. Not a great or popular mon, but it's too precious for how rarely it's been in game.
Love these videos! Just a heads up guys, I looked it up during the video and Black sludge for a poison type like Venusaur is better than left overs but not by a huge margin. Just friendly facts 😁
It heals the same. It's better only because if it's tricked by an opponent it won't heal them if they aren't a poison type themselves but will hurt them instead each turn. It frees lefties for your other mons
It's a minor precaution but then again you never know what might happen.
Only reason black sludge is *technically* better is in case a pokemon uses trick on venusaur. (And also if they're doing item clause (which they weren't since tobin had 2 specs pokes) then black sludge lets you put lefties on smth else.)
Maxed out defense blissey is the first thing I immediately thought of when the rules were read out and I got shivers
now imagine blissy with max hp and max Defence... that thing would be a god
please do more of these it was so much fun!!!
I would love to see someone fuse blissey and shuckle with stamina lol since I just watch the fusion video with dussy
You've all heard of dussy, now get ready for SHUSSY!!!
(We need to see which one would win in a 1v1)
@@alicedodobirb2808 I feel like the winner of that is whoever has the bigger PP lol.
Dylan thinking he figured out all the stats was tooo funny.
Amazing mind games in this one!
the "it's gonna do a lot... please" from Tobin has been killing me for like 20 minutes lololol
That little graphic with the mons over their stat was so clutch
Hear me out, DUSSY with max hp would be hilarious
Would love to see more of this kind of challenge
It makes me happy that we all thought of shuckle
Shuckle with max attack 💀💀💀
i have an idea for a future video! you blindly choose your starter and you get to rearrange the bst of the final evolution (with some rules like min. 50 in each max. 150)
Very happy to see you still doing a lot of amazing videos! Hope you keep having more success in the future! 😄
Another amazing video, Thank you for all the hours of entertainment ❤
Shedinja with Max HP would’ve been HYSTERICAL
I like this type of video it’s slightly different from the norm everyone does but gives that homie vibe ❤
Anyone else screaming at Tobin to pick Ditto! It would of been so broken with max HP
Loved this video. I would like to see this one more. Thank you.
this is my new favorite idea for a then we fight now
The fact Dylan didn't pick the best competitive pokemon of all time is kind of insane. Excadril is good and all, but Incineroar is the best ever, even if this is singles.
Love this concept please do more!!
This felt like Bill and Ted's Pokémon Adventure
I hope we see more videos like this in the future. They're many great options for all these stats in both Sw/Sh and Sc/Vi. Here's some from each stat that would either stand out or be fun for me personally.
HP-Shadinja, Shuckle, and Ditto
ATK-Tinkaton, Jirachi, Mightyena, or any other physical attacker who needs a better ATK stat
DEF-Blissey, Assault Vesters, and Eviolite mons
SP-ATK - Mew, Porygon 2, and Sheerforcers
SP-DEF - Kartana, Assult Vesters, and Eviolite mons like DEF
SD-Dracovish, Arctizolt, and Pokémon with few good priority moves
Some of these can be swapped around like Dracovish into ATK or Mightyena into Speed, but I feel these could be fun.
I really liked this video idea! Would love to see this again
I love that you have some videos where you mute the opponent and try to guess what their thinking without them giving hints. You have to do one of these with Shady. The mind games would be crazy.
6:30 IMO Sceptile here with 255 Atk is always really strong - Sceptile has an extremely diverse physical movepool, but it's normally super restricted by its shiste Atk stat. At base 255 Atk, you give it Sash + Unburden (or some other way to abuse Unburden), you can run something like Trailblaze + Acrobatics + Drain Punch (for if like hazards break your sash and it answers steels) + Thunder Punch, with Quick Attack, Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, Leaf Blade, and Earthquake all being great options as well. Alternatively, if you want to do something really off the wall, you could instead go Endure + Liechi Berry to guarantee an Unburden proc and get +1 Atk.
Edit: Oh also, you'll probably realize this during the battle, but Leech Seed takes a set percentage of your opponent's HP and gives it to you. That means that you gain a flat amount of HP based on your opponent's HP stat, not your own. What I'm getting at here is that you'll barely notice the healing from Leech Seed on Venu unless you Leech Seed their max HP mon. (Wish works similarly where it gives half of the Wish user's HP stat to the mon receiving the Wish, meaning that Wish passing sucks when done by low HP stat mons, even if they have really good defenses).
"I wish electric terrain woke me up." It does. Landorus is a flying type.
Not cause it's flying but cause it's already asleep before the terrain was active
@@user-ws8tr6gc2eif terrain comes up, asleep Pokémon also wake up. It is because it’s flying.
More of this rule set please! Great video!
I kinda wished someone had gotten a Pokémon with a good Special move pool but no Special Attack to finally make it work :D
Nobody would expect a Gyarados to hit with devastating Thunderbolts
Awesome team building Dylan
4:23 NOTHING is better than Reese’s!
this idea would be so scary with shuckle raising his attack to the max
I need more videos like this. Dylan, if you read this, make another please 🙏🏻
Having physical and special coverage really could have mattered here. If gothitelle carried psyshock, it could have sent kabutops back into extinction.
Defensive mons are hard to gauge, so having some kind of way around it is worth it.
I think it would be interesting if you did this style again but throughout the battle if you call out the persons boosted stat correctly, they have to tell you what their next move is or something. It’s so easy to mix up HP for D/SpD so it would be difficult. Maybe you only get to call each stat once and if it’s wrong the person doesn’t tell you anything so you can’t cross anything off the list?
I love the solo commentary
I want to see what would happen if you played against each other, but with actual VGC strategies in double battles
The next few videos based on this idea, all stats maxed out(1), one stat minimum/minimized(2), and the third video could be all stats are minimum
Dude didn’t even need to bring out the Kyruem sat in the back 😂
27:04 Dylan saying he got everything right when he pretty much got everything wrong is hilarious. I get it's hard to jump to conclussions with the given information though
You guys should take more formats from Pokémon showdown OMs! I would love to see you guys try things like inheritance, full potential, and all those fun formats
YOU LIVE AND LEARN!
( 13:25 )
so, i had an idea. do a video like this, like a really similar one. but if you can guess the correct changes at the end on every mon, you get an advantage the next time you both battle. like an illegal move, or any ability
The sonic adventure battle 2 cameo made me way happier then it should have
"I don't want to risk it"
This guy has the npc gameplan 😂 no predictions allowed
Not Dylan out here with 2 mons with illegal moves 😭
First turn i would have been putting HP on that Budew. Toxic Spikes, Giga Drain, Leech Seed, Black Sludge Roserade sounds like a vibe
Venusaur putting in work again. 😅
What a great video!
I hope this will come up again, a max speed Snorlax or something would go hard :D
THIS WAS AMAZING...... I want you to do this with Shady so bad
Great video idea please do again, an idea opponent picks which you have to use with out seeing your pokemon.
I usually don't like regular human names for pokemon, but Jared on Venasaur kinda fits. Its like when your Uncle goes by his middle name cause his first name is Venasaur
This video was great please do it again!
Damn, Dylan was playing 4D chess in this one. Didn’t even have to use half of his team.