BoxOvFox's Bizarre Backstory
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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The Gundam being built is the RX-9/C Narrative C-Pack. Bandai HG model number #222
@@klonoafan2012 bad dog, go sit in the corner
@@klonoafan2012 ?????
@@klonoafan2012 the fuck?😂
@@klonoafan2012 Shut up.
Ooooooo I love watching the models be built!
>husband calls someone a pedophile with no proof
>no comment
>they call husband a coward
>instant anger
I love how polite everyone is when starting to rip her a new one. You can hear the change in the tones of their voices--they start out angry, realize they're talking over each other, and then immediately go "oh, sorry, you go ahead ^_^" "aw thanks
The moment they hesitated to answer whether they had contacted their 'employer', I knew they were in the wrong. That's such a violation.
Lio and everybody: You're defending your insane friends
Spooky: I didn't dox Box
Lio: *facepalm*
Imagine finding out your spouse was involved with enabling the stalking/harassment of some for FIVE YEARS over a stupid fanfiction. I'd be more focused on getting them help/off the internet for a while then getting mad at the people calling them out. Also John had a point about this being some high school drama but he said it to the wrong person.
Tbg it surprises me that divorce wasn't on the table like how mental you have to be to stalk and harass someone for fucking FIVE YEARS
Crazy 4 crazy
c4c
Lio brings the “disappointed dad energy” that, unfortunately, a lot of people need
Very true ngl lol
True, true
@@klonoafan2012 shut up Vii
@Klonoafan2012 and?
Lol prove it
I really feel for Box here. Was afraid another RUclipsr I enjoyed was exposed for something bad but it turns out they were being harassed for five years over FANFICTION?! Spooky and her husband seriously need to touch some grass. Extremely pathetic behavior.
If terminally online were people, it's them
I feel like there are legitimate reasons to criticize BoxofFox but stalking and harassing them for years is just insane, especially considering how petty and stupid a lot this stuff was.
Hopefully Fox can rest now after this bs and ppl move on.
Holding onto this for 5 Years. And she’s 7 years my senior! Truly Fatherless Behavior! Unbelievable.
You think that's bad? She's a year away from being twice my age. Ffs, my longest internet drama lasted two months and even I knew when to call it quits.
And all of this over freakin fanfiction and OCs
Well that’s about enough life for me today!!
Bruh I'm 29 and I found her behaviors truly embarrassing! Jfc
She's 9 years my senior. Geez....
As of now I’m 19. What in the what is happening where actual adults who have finished their cognitive development and stuff act less mature than I, a guy who still lives with his parents and worries about his future
how do people not get exhausted with this drama after 5 years? at some point you gotta just go "fuck it, i dont care anymore" and avoid interacting with anything related to it.
Even Marcus and paladin jacobs were able to come together
Thank you Lio for covering this and helping my friend Box. After dealing with these clowns in some part it’s nice to hear from sane people about how absolutely idiotic they are.
Spooky and Box talking about the stuff with Creepswork kind of left me in a nervous state because what I experienced is a lot more insane than what either talked about.
When we dated I was his artist for his “comic” Sandman which was basically Alt Right Deadpool. Take every anti-SJW stereotype you could think of and that was basically the “humor”. The Evangelion stuff was just the tip of the iceberg to what ideas I had to draw for him. But with that he had me trace scenes from the anime to use for “inspiration”. What I remember specifically was a scene where a character had wings and he wanted me to trace that with his character to convey him “transcending to heaven”
I was honestly scream laughing when you guys roasted Evangelion because he would talk about how much of a master piece it was.
I’ve debated on coming out about what happened to me behind the scenes during the 2017 drama. And how that traumatic experience may have played a part in the choices me and Box made. Though that’s more of a personal choice I have to make and not important to the situation at hand.
Saki/Madii however I hope finally leaves my friend alone and Box will stop tweeting about it (bestie I love you but you know what I’ve said LOL)
Always happy to help.
EYO! It’s been a while! Great to hear from you!
Hope things have been doing great for you
Good grief, I mean I love Evangelion but even I don’t think it’s the greatest anime ever made; no that honor goes to Cowboy Bebop and Berserk
It’s your choice about if you want to talk about it or not, just hope you are doing great
(A lot of great horror movies have been coming out lately and I figured you probably have seen some)
@@TrueBuddhaCat Agreed. Cowboy Bebop is one of the greats.
Has been too long to see yours. I assume your bday is soon? Happy bday
@@TrueBuddhaCat I’m doing pretty okay :> been watching a lot of good horror movies lol.
"More chromosomes than IQ points". I am stealing that.
Watching Lio build a Gundam model is suprisingly satisfying...Can we get more of that?
He has a video where hes building a tanjiro figure
@@higaiwokeru *I know what I'm watching after this*
Okay, finished the video, and I have something to say. When Spooky's husband started mouthing off, I was like "wow, he's dumb." Then I heard someone call him Ogichi, and then it all made sense. If he's who I think he is, that being Ogichi Game, he's got a hate boner for Klown Teeth, making 2 terrible videos on her years ago when she still went by Icy Hazard, and they were edgy and dumb videos that got commentated on by Junkie (I watched Junkie years ago before I knew the things he did) and Ponder had a small section in Junkie's video on Ogichi. After he had been called out, Ogichi made another video claiming that he had purposely made the videos to "get the attention of specifically Junkie and Ponder" to "point out how stupid their videos are" (which, side note, good job, you got people who do commentaries for fun to commentate on you, such a big win). I don't remember what he said exactly, but that's the general gist. Problem with that is, he made art of his character ripping Klown's character in half, and said that Icy was defending a pedo, which is obviously referring to Ponder's video on the Spoctor drama from years ago, and clearly heard only what he wanted to hear. Knowing all of this, it makes perfect sense that he'd claim Lio was a child predator, because he doesn't care about the truth, he cares about winning an argument. Side note, Spooky, does EVERYONE you're friends with have a hate boner for Klown, Box, or anyone in their friend circle? Because if so, that's a collective obsession that they have, and it's very unhealthy.
Something I forgot to mention: I don't believe he made the videos specifically to get the attention of Junkie and Ponder, I think he just tried to make himself look like a Machiavellian mastermind with that 3rd video, but it just made him look more dumb.
Holy shit Ogichi. Haven't heard this asshole's name in forever
Surprised this guy even has a wife
I knew I recognized that name!
Yeesh, this guy is now married and he’s still a pussy wiped looser who doesn’t have the guts to talk to Lio
Go figures he doesn't care about stalking considering some of the information he released on Klown Teeth in his videos on her
I remember him as "the fake weeb who insisted his name is pronounced "Oh-Gee-Tchee", despise the fact that his name's written with a G and so is pronounced "Oh-GI-Tchee" because that's how Japanese works and if he *really* wanted to be correct, it would have been written with a J, so Ojichi".
Don't remember if Junkie and/or Ponder pointed that out but I sure remember him malding over that honestly correctable mistake.
Glad to know he's a spineless coward.
20:06 Gaslighting doesn't require intent, many people do it reflexively, especially in an argument. This makes it all the more difficult to call them out on it, and can compound the effect of the gaslighting even further.
As someone who goes by Spooky online, I’m sorry you had to deal with all the tomfoolery this person was involved in.
Thank you for all the work you do and the free background noise for me to listen to while I draw, though I can’t lie and say I didn’t get distracted watching the progress on that Gundam model lol
No more drawing, must watch Gundam be built
props to Box who actually watched the stream and grew a back bone saying it was needed not everyone online is that grown
Spooky is almost DOUBLE my age and this is hurting my brain. Lio, I don’t know how you do this but you have my respect for it.
Honestly this just seems like a perfect story on why you don’t go out of your way to fuck with people. Box made a fake account, pretending to be the editor of their author relative in order to get access to a story someone was writing so they could then make their own story making fun of it. And it snowballed from there straight into stupid town
Yup. Not going to defend Box on that dumb action. But maybe I should now track down that kid from second grade that stole the gas gun accessory from my Darkwing Duck toy, and start acting deranged towards him about it? Seems to be what all the kids are doing now.
@Lio_Convoy it's all about having the last laugh and feeling like they've "won" that's why people obsess over this garbage behavior
How terminally online do you have to be to stalk someone for 5 years over fan fiction. This is just bonkers to me. As someone who was stalked I feel for fox..... Even if they did do some stupid stuff it doesn't warrant stalking. Box fox should get a restraining order.
@@Lio_ConvoyI’d pay money for an April fools video on that, that sounds like a fun caper
@@Lio_Convoy can confirm, it's all the rage these days
Lio just proving himself to have the patience of a saint yet again.
This is the most stupidest, yet funniest drama I've ever witnessed in my entire life. I literally just entered my 20s and I can most certainly confirm that I'm not as childish as Spooky was during this.
Creepswork is an... interesting individual. Says a lot about Spooky's character they consider them to be a friend.
Super Menace is an asshole, but he was the doomslayer of the deviantart rants community (which isn’t saying much). Honestly a tragic figure, unlike Creepworks.
creepswork was a greentext reader lol
super menace...kinda rings a bell, are you referring to The Fandom Menace by any chance?
@@CloverLeaf777 correct
@@CloverLeaf777 didn't he harass fetish artists and trans people for simply existing?
Haven’t heard about that guy since the IcyHazard debacle….holy crap people from theDA ranting community days being brought back up.
I came in here thinking that Box did something but...I wasn't expecting this. what a joke. imagine holding a 5 year grudge because of a parody story or whatever
When the dad energy so strong even 30-year-olds call you sir
I am on the peripheral sticking my nose into several communities and it's crazy how deranged behavior knows no age. The Skyrim custom voiced followers community are threatening to sue eachother over hiring new VA's for other's OC's and it's fucking hilarious. Chris Hansen copystriked a bunch of channels discussing and criticizing his handling of the Onision situation until his producer/webmaster/publicist/gremlin turned Chris's website into the front page of 4chan.
You're not dealing with a Hydra, Lio. You're surfing a whole World Wide Web of them.
OH BOY. HOW COMFORTING 😊
OK, wait... Wait... Wait... _What?_ Skyrim follower mods-modifications-getting a mod on top of it... to further expand the customization options available for the mod... is a problem? HELLO? WHAT ARE WE DOING? I'd say I'm out, but I'm not.
@@YourWaywardDestiny the fact that the VA threatened legal action for having someone revoice lines written by someone else is especially hilarious.
Also,the sex mods have a lot of drama that has led to schisms, branches, you could almost call them denominations. I swear this world is on Larry David writing right now.
@@jordanjoestar-turniptruck The fact that most of them aren't even being paid for this fuckery sends me into orbit. It sounds as pathetic as it is hilarious. I'm going to have to look into this deeper. _And then laugh if they're a part of my modlist because I can't handle how childish that is._
@@jordanjoestar-turniptruckI would like to know more
One person is 33 Years old, Married, and more worried about internet drama rather than real life? That's not good, get a center and touch grass. The rest are idiots and need to stop getting so worked up over words.
You know i JUST realized this as well and i know this is a bad time to bring it up but she is dating someone who has been known to stalk harrass and send DEATH threats to the Ex of one of her friends while they were dating and she wants to take the moral high ground? Like...can we even take this woman seriously?
No matter how times I think about it, I am still dumbfounded that a five year feud occurred over a fan fiction of all things. There is a need to touch grass and then there is a need to be in a Savannah.
I genuinely enjoyed watching Lio build the Gundam in the bg. I’d love to see more content with that!
I feel kinda bad for Spooky in a way because this just seems like a woman with some sort of developmental disability or something who got into a toxic friend group and just learned how they really are. Like, they even threatened her at the end. Those are NOT friends. I genuinely hope she learns when to pick her battles and drops those people like a hot potato instead of continuing to double down for them.
I was so shocked that she was 33 because she came across as an unaware teen at first with the way she was explaining the things going on with her "friends". This is definitely a woman with some sort of disability or something like you said, or an extreme level of gullibility. There is no way someone is on earth for 33 years and doesn't realize that beef spurred over a fanfiction is a drop in the ocean compared to literally anything else, unless there is something that genuinely prevents them from understanding that
Nil Apperntly has genuine brain damage.
@@Silver_wind_1987_I’m sorry, I can’t remember what this is in relation to.
@JulieSpicer call Me nil. Has brain damage. Thus has issues making choices and remembering things...
@@Silver_wind_1987_ I understand that part, but I can’t remember what it has to do with my comment since I had commented 6 months ago. So I need a little refresher.
Totally off topic but I really appreciate taking into account for some of the language you had used before in past videos. It's really nice to hear you want to improve on not saying those words that have been used for discrimination and hate towards a group of people.
I used to talk to Saki, I'm so glad I just... ghosted her because something didn't feel right.
This is sadly not the first drama I have seen over fanfic. But damn most of the time it's teenagers.
Unless you remember the woman with children who made creepy Harry Potter fanfics and had a cult following until people realized that she made fake accounts to attack herself
.. the Msscribe saga was certainly something to see
@@LooneyLei god that was crazy. Just even reading it after words is a ride into crazy land.
@@boooo13 I recommended looking up videos on the matter, it’s great background noise for when you’re doing something else
Just look up Msscribe
With how Lio bring the dad energy, I'm feel like the older sibling who works too much just come home and hears all the drama. Holy the husband was limp dicked as fuck
No no he's MELTED DICK energy. Goo dick. Dude has zero brain cells. Hamster brain on fire level Brain running on a rusty hamster wheel.
I love the fact that the theme for Silverhawks is playing in the background
You gotta be kidding this foolishness went on for FIVE YEARS?!?! And over a fanfic?! And the that fact that both sides involved are adults just adds to a whole level of pitiful sadness. Also kinda ironic that spooky's husband calls it middle school drama when all he's doing is making snide remarks in the background like a middle-schooler.
I swear if this is the direction society is heading in, to quote Ratrap
" We're all gotta die "
My brain immediately went to Optimus primal, saying: "Well, isn't this just prime. " In his disappointed dad voice.
I have no prior knowledge of any of the individuals Lio makes videos of...... but as usual I'll be watching from start to finish.
Fun fact, Saki made me honestly believe she was going to kill herself those 5 years ago in DA messages that almost made me do something bad because I thought I would have been blamed. I have screenshots from back then to prove she made this claim over her starting a fight with someone we use to be friends. Do not trust what she says.
Just realized Spooky and Saki are two different people.
I'm really sorry you had to go through that. :(
@@SparDanger Not your fault, but thanks. *hug*
@@kegrimm4160 I know. You're welcome. :)
Listening to this call I've had to remind myself that this is 5 YEAR DRAMA over fanfic, and that Spooky was married and in their 30s
I’ve been binging every single internet drama commentary video I can get my grubby little hands on to draw to and I think your channel might be my favorite. It’s nice to know there are still sensible people in this chronically online space.
This channel is literally amazing. Drama audio to create art to AND action figure and nerd culture content?! Sign me up, take my subscription. Also I do hope the content you enjoy making gets the support it deserves.
Good lord, this was a HOOT. I’m actually glad that Box of Vox actually made an effort to better themselves in the end. I just hope this Spooky person gets fucking HELP. Because holy shit, talk about not only unhinged, but TERMINALLY ONLINE. I really hope Box is doing better now, and wish them nothing but the best.🙏💖💕✨
Great video as always, Lio!👌✨✨
I remember when I first watched Box and that was during a JAR video. I dunno exactly how I feel about them because of the stuff they tired to pull but now I understand things a bit more. Thank you Lio
As much as i enjoy listening to these types of videos (Artist here!)
I absolutely adore the model/toy review videos too! They're so much fun and your commentary on them is wonderful :3
This is crazy to see pop up in my recommendeds because I'm like
98% sure I used to hang out with Boxovfox on a rp server like 2 or 3 years ago on Discord before the server got deleted. I remember them going through some stuff and drawing their oc as a gift so they'd feel better. Wild to imagine all of this was probably happening in the background at the time
Considering what this individual did it's not gonna end well
Half drawing but also half watching cause I am really intrigued by Lio building the Gundam. It is really cool!
Watching Lio build a gundam is the best gateway to his other content that I will gladly now consume.
ooooooo, i havent heard any updates about box's stuff after the initial shitstorm that they tried doing with JAR, what shit have they caused to get leos attention to make a video
That was the most confusing drama I've heard about
Yay something to listen to while I’m doing my cleaning lady job.
@Just Your Average Joe here same
Hey just wanted to tell you your job is extremely important and you are one of the backbones of our society thank you for your hard work I'm sorry that you don't get appreciate as much as you should
@@starrycharacter I occasionally clean for the elderly people in my neighborhood while I’m in between jobs at the moment. With the economy and inflation I’m fine being paid either $25 for the day or $10 an hour for at the most two hours of light chores or simple yardwork. Everything stupid expensive and I feel guilty asking for more than that when it comes to these old people that just need a little extra help.
@@MsUnamusedNerd my friend you are doing good work
@@klonoafan2012 I didn’t know cleaning houses for elderly people made me a JK Rowling fan 😂😂😂
you know I can tap your channel icon/name and it shows the 7:30 comments or leave it on this video or any of other Lio’s videos, right? You’re literally spamming everyone in the comment section of Lio’s calling them in some shape or form a transphobe. 😂
Chronically online behavior right there!
Another Twat that overuses terms towards random people they don’t know look for dick about. It’s because of people like you that legit hate crimes, are becoming less and less serious. Do better OK rugrat? 😊
most of what I know about box was when they tried to stop jar's editor from helping in their video talking about their past, and misgendering others they don't like on twitter. The rest just seems... utterly ridiculous I'm surprised everyone involved are adults and not in high school
this is what i was thinking, the person in call at the start (idk if later it changes because i’m still early on in the video) they sounded very young both based on their voice, speech mannerisms and certain word choices/the complaints they are making. when they said they are 33 it was really shocking to hear lmao
There's something therapeutic about watching a model assembly.
you should upload more calls with gundham building or anything else related to toys! its nice to watch and no one else does that
That's the plan!
@@Lio_Convoy Could you do one of a Godzilla model kit??
These people are my age. Holy crap. I wish my problems were so small I could be upset about fan fiction. But truthfully I would be so painfully bored it is unimaginable to care about fan fiction. Or parody of fan fiction. It's impressive how high school this was considering these people are 30 ish.
I am half hour in, and the impression is that the creeppasta humiliation gave her a trauma that she never got closure of, that then got transferred Box's trolling.
I love that your making a Gundam! Feels like we're enjoying doing our hobbies while dealing with idiots
It's footage like this that makes me want to try Gundam building.
5 year beef over a fanfiction is crazy
something about watching lio build toys is so soothing
While the calls themselves are fascinating, I found myself even more fascinated with the Gundam build. I would totally watch just a vid of Lio building a Gundam. Or a Transformers model kit. Which reminds me to build my Thundercracker kit. Time to binge toy reviews while drawing!
Weirdly enough, this happens to be the one video in this style I listened to while doing something BESIDES drawing
0:58 Thank you Lio for making the best (to your ability) viewership experience, I truly appreciate what you do.
I know this isn't really related to the drama but I absolutely adore your love for toys
I remember an ex of mine's father had an entire closet full of transformers action figures and I mean FULL like wall to wall stacked.
He took me and my partner at the time to a transformers convention at one point too ^^ just in short it's pretty nostalgic and it's really cool!
i do think its super funny hearing this person calling you sir over and over again LOL they sound a LOT younger than they said they are!!
I know that the point is about the general- "talking" and such of the video, but I also love to fixate on you building models whilst listening. :) amazing video.
As an artist who turned this on for background noise and had no clue what this was about I did not expect to hear the familiar name Creepswork and wow, “my original character is the most original character ever cuz he’s like deadpool was in call of duty and wore a skull mask” boy got pissy over fanfiction for Five Whole Years? Can’t say I’m that surprised unfortunately
Can we all talk about how this person is in her dirty's and she doesn't know who goku is. I mean sure if she's never seen the series OK but you at least should know what the character looks like in his name since hes pretty much the most talked about anime character of all time. Also this whole thing just seemed pretty stupid but it was fun to watch thanks for bringing up some good content dude
My 61 year old Mom knows who Goku is, and she's never SEEN the damn show!
Wait a second, Creepswork? As in Punished Creepswork? That guy that used to read greentexts from 4chan? Surprised he still had any internet activity TBH.
Also what model kit was that Lio? Thought it was a HG Build Burning Gundam from the head crest at first, but it sure as heck didn't look like it.
Lio: Do you understand
Spooky: Yes I do (Really doesn't understand)
You know you have fucked up when the situation gets compared to Chris-Chan dear god
The cutesy usernames being thrown out from this grownass adult is ridiculous.
That Gundam figure is pretty cool btw!
Having listened to half of it... my brain hurts at the stupid.
thank you so much for the consideration when it comes to some words that are used!
Lio, just wanted to say thanks for all you do! Just wanted to ask, what’s your favorite build from these figures? Not really experienced in these figures?
I REALLY enjoyed the 2.0 MG RX-78!
Never heard Rogue described as a lolcow and it's not wrong. XD
Lio I like the way that you talk it brings a type of energy that I appreciate
>33 years old
I get why people start smoking. I'm not going to do it, but I get it.
👀 The process of figurine building is fascinating! Maybe if I get a bigger place I'll try it out!
Let's not forget drinking.
As an older man than you (slightly, only a year or two), I personally would love to hear that website rant.
Yeah. So, after having now listened to all of that, I'm really curious to know about what website you were ranting--if only because I could use some nostalgia.
The gundam(?) Building makes tis like 10x more interesting to watch
13:47 - This isn’t true. Back in the day when I did fanfiction, I often sent out drafts of my work to certain fans. Many of us did so. It was treated like exclusive sneak peeks into what was going to happen next. None of us were related and I wouldn’t say we were necessarily friends either. We just appreciated each other’s works and would often give tips and advice on what to change or do next.
Edit: I’m actually not at all surprised that this drama involved adults. Contrary to popular belief/hope, adults aren’t always “adults”. I can think of a few fanfiction drama that spiraled out of control that definitely involved adults. Examples include Colleen Hoover and her circle of… “friends”. Do not forget she may be a famous author now but she got started in the fandom community. The drama she was involved in was WILD.
Note: Although, I was active in writing fanfiction, back then and even now, I did NOT get involved in fandoms. Just because I don’t like the toxic nature and culture within them.
Edit 2: I did NOT expect her husband to actually be listening in. How can he be okay with how his wife is handling this situation? They have gone after Box for five years and it escalated to involving cops and Box’s parents. But his wife is asked a few questions and then he gets upset?
There's just no end to this madness is there?
33 years old
“Hey, you should talk to a doctor about your depression” this mf clearly gaslighting my friends! >:(
Honestly hot take
I'm an artist and I listen to lio as I doodle and when I glance up/over to the screen
I enjoy seeing him put together things more than the game play of Roblox of whatever the fuck it is 😂
Sparrow has told me about this drama for a long ass time, and it's good to see it aired out.
I keep having to remind myself they’re in their 30’s. They absolutely talk like an angry teenager on DeviantART.
1:36:36 I feel like this is sort of a bad take since swatting exists. If they already called authorities into it for casual reasons, then stands to reason that they’re willing to escalate to swatting or possibly even personal home invasion if they’re nutty enough
Fair enough lio. I will watch your videos. Your toy reviews are hilarious anyways. Also I discovered you covered "Deception of a Generation". Thats my favorite 80's fundie propaganda trash. I'll be binging that later.
Your content is what got me to buying and assembling model kits.
Okay off topic, I was jamming to this background music. Goddamn I’m fucking GROOVIN
I remember box's videos from back when the sonic93 drama happened but I didn't keep up with them after the yoshi video so this'll be an interesting experience
hooooly shít sonic93 that was so long ago
love listening to this shit not just when im drawing but also when im playing the sims!
How hilarious fanfiction have to be to cause it to live in grinding gears head for 5+ years! It isn't even on boxovfox's da anymore lol
"The only people that need to worry about traps are straight men"
I'M GOING TO DISINTEGRATE
Came for the doodle material
Stayed for the model building
I watch all sorts videos while I draw, I really like Lio’s toy reviews a lot!
Can Nobody Leave Internet BS online!? CAN NO ONE LAUGH OFF SHIT AND LIVE THEIR LIVES!? 😂