I like to think the Vipers and Jackals were still there around F1 and F2 but just out of range for the player to interact with. Atleast we got them in FNV although very weak at this point thanks to the NCR and Rangers. Still for story sake it makes sense and I'm glad they're back in.
Before watching this video for some reason I was under the impression that they were in Fallout 1/2 and that the NCR was the reason they were so weak in NV.
There's a FNV raider mod ,that created lore specific armour and weapons for the Vipers. Bone armour and bone bows and venom poisoned arrows. Also clothing ,armour for Jackals were they wear some furs and leather armour and jackal heads as helmets. Like Vulpes wears. Jackals have cannibal perk as a default. As that's their practice,lore.I think you can join either groups in the mod, do side quests for them.
@@MrQerson Yes, but with the right know-how drugs can be ingested in many different ways. With gas to liquid changes, the process is called "condensation".
The Vipers and Jackals are a tragic case as until new Vegas they always got screwed over besides the first fallout both gangs where meant to appear in Van Buren the Vipers would be lead by a man named Drake and the Jackals would be lead by Banshee other Jackals included Howler And Crazy Bitch lastly the Jackals where meant to appear in Fallout Brotherhood of Steel 2 Banshee would have returned as the leader of the Jackals the player would chase him through an airport until another Jackal named Bulldog appeared to fight the player during the fight Banshee would board a plane and escape later on the player would corner Banshee and interrogate him only for him to explode before he could talk
I'm bummed that we never see more of them in game, as their stories are pretty interesting and in addition to the Khans, also makes the NCR becoming what it has more impressive. Like everyone out of that vault became bastards except for one small group, and wouldn't have lasted without the intervention of a protag. Makes me wonder if they would have survived up to NV if either the Khans or NCR wiped each other out, as both of those factions aren't shy about conquest.
Tbf, if it Shady Sands did not survive - another 'NCR' would've risen from The Hub, Junktown, Necropolis or any other town of survivors. Ofc, it would've also been drastically different both in ideals, symbolism and structure.
I don't know; however, his art gallery in the Mojave has this alluring and venomous aura to it. Such vivid detail of the internal anatomy of humans in his works!
@@TriangleCity dude gag aside you are so relaxing to listen to, interesting, charming, and even your ads are entertaining. Thank you for being you man! Keep it up and don't get left in that cutting room floor
I definitely will at some point, but I currently have a long backlog of videos in the works already, regarding Tactics, The Combat Zone, Old World Blues, modding videos, etc.
i think in new vegas the vipers should of been a full faction a minor one but still a faction their motivations being gaining the ability to mobilize in order to retake their holy land. if with the legion you convince them to join but if you join the vipers then go into the legion you can help the vipers indoctrinate a significant portion of the legion while joining them giving the legion vipers special purple and red armor with a reskin of that one armor that has the banner hanging above the head but with a viper on the banner this giving a special ending if caesar dies the legion becoming unified under the serpent everything throwing in little details referencing roman cults throughout this whole plot direction. The NCR's version of the quest would just be a go here kill everyone quest
The Vipers make no sense. If their entire belief system revolves around constant sacrifices and ingesting deadly Venom, where are they getting the fresh bodies? They aren't the only ones in the area that need Humans, Super-Mutants also do. I do not think that part of America would have anywhere near a large enough population of Humans and/or Ghouls to make them feasible. Unless the Giant Viper Venom actually wasn't all that deadly and they just randomly selected who among them would be sacrificed. That seems more realistic. A Giant Snake likely wouldn't have potent venom as there would be no need for it due to it's staggering size.
Hey so I just found this a couple of days ago in Fallout 3, but in the Franklin metro station cell space, a little ways south of the main station and platform are two nearly identical sqare rooms, I had no clue this existed and pondered of this had anything to do with any cut space or anything, probably just a place for enemies to spawn or something but I still have no clue what it could be, perhaps this is of interest to you considering you have been going through a bunch of Fallout 3 cut content recently.
I'm not so sure. Other than Garl Deathhand, the Khans only have two named NPCs you can speak to and neither of them seem related to the Vipers/Jackals, but it's possible their names were at least recycled.
Particularly since they're barely mentioned throughout the entire game. Even if you had played F1 there's a good chance you still wouldn't know who they were, short of reading the Fallout Bible.
You don't know how badly I want to earn a perk called Snake Eater in a Fallout game. Also, there's a bizarre lack of snake enemies in Fallout. Spiders too. How odd
Snakes would be much harder to put in than another humanoid or quadruped. They require a unique skeleton, unique animations, different pathing, etc. That's super expensive for an enemy that you probably wouldn't see in more than a handful of locations. That being said, it would be super cool.
I have nothing of value to add that hasn’t already been said, so commenting to help the channel in the algorithm. ❤️ Always love these vids - they’re great while I work on mods.
It took me three different tries at starting fallout 1 before I could actually get into it but god damn once I did that game became my favorite in the series. Anybody who is a fan of retro games has to play fallout.
Is there any cut content regarding the lore behind Nuka Cola Quartz and Victory? It always bugged me that there was never any kind of story or explanation for them.
I just wish they expand on the aftermath of the master the psychers and other stuff. And just remake 3 and nv with all cut content easiest millions to make
Anybody remember the cut line when you raided Mr. House's chambers to access his body? After you activate the wall door with the terminal, Mr. House's line "It's Fallout time!" Is played. And the courier jingle-jangles past the securitrons and kills him.
I like to think the Vipers and Jackals were still there around F1 and F2 but just out of range for the player to interact with. Atleast we got them in FNV although very weak at this point thanks to the NCR and Rangers.
Still for story sake it makes sense and I'm glad they're back in.
I'm glad they included them in FNV, even if few players actually knew they were.
Before watching this video for some reason I was under the impression that they were in Fallout 1/2 and that the NCR was the reason they were so weak in NV.
There's a FNV raider mod ,that created lore specific armour and weapons for the Vipers. Bone armour and bone bows and venom poisoned arrows.
Also clothing ,armour for Jackals were they wear some furs and leather armour and jackal heads as helmets. Like Vulpes wears. Jackals have cannibal perk as a default. As that's their practice,lore.I think you can join either groups in the mod, do side quests for them.
@@benthenerd177its said in the loading screens the ncr pushed them out
Inject these lengthy cut content videos into my veins like it’s Ultrajet
*You've become addicted*
Isn't (ultra)jet using a inhaler?
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Yes, but with the right know-how drugs can be ingested in many different ways. With gas to liquid changes, the process is called "condensation".
I'm Ultragay, inject me too
Lore is a hard drug for true fans.
Props to nv for having the least amount of time and bringing the most amount of factions
It was really cool they made an homage to the Vipers and Jackals
The Vipers and Jackals are a tragic case as until new Vegas they always got screwed over besides the first fallout both gangs where meant to appear in Van Buren the Vipers would be lead by a man named Drake and the Jackals would be lead by Banshee other Jackals included Howler And Crazy Bitch lastly the Jackals where meant to appear in Fallout Brotherhood of Steel 2 Banshee would have returned as the leader of the Jackals the player would chase him through an airport until another Jackal named Bulldog appeared to fight the player during the fight Banshee would board a plane and escape later on the player would corner Banshee and interrogate him only for him to explode before he could talk
Jesus, sounds like it would've been fun to hunt them down on the og engine lol
As always you do an invaluable service to the community and hope you know how much people appreciate your hard work and videos
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As a stargate fan it's funny hearing Killian (voiced by Richard dean Anderson) talk about them "worshipping snakes"
The Fiends remain my favourite raider faction from the Fallout series.
They're up there for me too.
It is ironic that they were brought back as nothing more then generic murderhobos.
It is 😭😭😭
History repeats itself.
I'm bummed that we never see more of them in game, as their stories are pretty interesting and in addition to the Khans, also makes the NCR becoming what it has more impressive. Like everyone out of that vault became bastards except for one small group, and wouldn't have lasted without the intervention of a protag. Makes me wonder if they would have survived up to NV if either the Khans or NCR wiped each other out, as both of those factions aren't shy about conquest.
Tbf, if it Shady Sands did not survive - another 'NCR' would've risen from The Hub, Junktown, Necropolis or any other town of survivors. Ofc, it would've also been drastically different both in ideals, symbolism and structure.
NCR, Khans, Jackals and Vipers all came out of the same vault yeah?
Cut raiders? Did Pickman get to them?
I got that reference
I don't know; however, his art gallery in the Mojave has this alluring and venomous aura to it. Such vivid detail of the internal anatomy of humans in his works!
The old VHS tape aesthetic is so pleasant
Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜
If the next fallout does not have a raider gang called the murder hobos, it's gonna be a missed opportunity.
I could die happy
Ultimately though, I'm glad that you've got sponser to help make content more
Thank you! They're making it possible for me to focus more on what I love, so I'm very thankful to have sponsors 💜💜💜
@@TriangleCity dude gag aside you are so relaxing to listen to, interesting, charming, and even your ads are entertaining. Thank you for being you man! Keep it up and don't get left in that cutting room floor
Can you make a video on Salem? I felt there were missed opportunities there with only one quest involving a crazy guy killing mirelurks.
I definitely will at some point, but I currently have a long backlog of videos in the works already, regarding Tactics, The Combat Zone, Old World Blues, modding videos, etc.
Dude your videos are just the best! Thank you for all your hard work and amazing videos this year!!
Thank you so much for supporting my channel! 🖤🖤🖤
This has quickly become one of my favorite channels
Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜
Brother, did you read my mind?
I'm currently collecting info on the Vipers and Jackals to flesh them out!
Thanks alot for the vid, man!
Oooh for a New Vegas mod?
Yes!!! more content from the main man himself. thanks so much my guy. love your content
Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜
the mass effect galaxy travel menu music is my ringtone, makes me anxious every time i hear it lol
Lmao 😂
You should make a RUclips playlist with the songs you use as background music because you use absolute bangers
The man, the myth, the triangular man has struck back with another banger video
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Awesome you’ve been able to do this for years, glad for each post
Thank you so much for watching! 💜💜💜
While I don't care for Raid Shadow Legends, I gotta admit it's a fitting sponsor for the video.
Always excited for a new Triangle City video, thank you!! :)
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i think in new vegas the vipers should of been a full faction a minor one but still a faction their motivations being gaining the ability to mobilize in order to retake their holy land. if with the legion you convince them to join but if you join the vipers then go into the legion you can help the vipers indoctrinate a significant portion of the legion while joining them giving the legion vipers special purple and red armor with a reskin of that one armor that has the banner hanging above the head but with a viper on the banner this giving a special ending if caesar dies the legion becoming unified under the serpent everything throwing in little details referencing roman cults throughout this whole plot direction. The NCR's version of the quest would just be a go here kill everyone quest
That would be really cool :)
The Vipers make no sense. If their entire belief system revolves around constant sacrifices and ingesting deadly Venom, where are they getting the fresh bodies? They aren't the only ones in the area that need Humans, Super-Mutants also do. I do not think that part of America would have anywhere near a large enough population of Humans and/or Ghouls to make them feasible. Unless the Giant Viper Venom actually wasn't all that deadly and they just randomly selected who among them would be sacrificed. That seems more realistic. A Giant Snake likely wouldn't have potent venom as there would be no need for it due to it's staggering size.
I always hate hearing your outro begin... because it means the video is at the end
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Hey so I just found this a couple of days ago in Fallout 3, but in the Franklin metro station cell space, a little ways south of the main station and platform are two nearly identical sqare rooms, I had no clue this existed and pondered of this had anything to do with any cut space or anything, probably just a place for enemies to spawn or something but I still have no clue what it could be, perhaps this is of interest to you considering you have been going through a bunch of Fallout 3 cut content recently.
If the factions were collapsed down into one, does that mean that some khans you fight are replaced raiders from the other two factions?
I'm not so sure. Other than Garl Deathhand, the Khans only have two named NPCs you can speak to and neither of them seem related to the Vipers/Jackals, but it's possible their names were at least recycled.
Another amazing post. I wonder what series you will move onto after fallout
Thank you so much dude! I'm considering doing some one offs on non-Fallout games.
@@TriangleCity please do Oblivion or TES in general
Babe wake up new TriangleCity video just dropped
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Unrelated fallout question
When should I do point lookout? Before starting broken steel?
You should do it some time
After since point lookouts enemies are a lot tougher compared to the enemies in broken steel.
Honestly I did think it was weird when I was younger how they are basically just fiends with a different name
Particularly since they're barely mentioned throughout the entire game. Even if you had played F1 there's a good chance you still wouldn't know who they were, short of reading the Fallout Bible.
Nice! Been meaning to research the raider gangs for some videos soon. You’re the best man ❤
You're the best bro 💜💜💜
DAMN I wasn’t here first, here still though! Good stuff as always my man.
Thank you so much as always dude! 🖤🖤🖤
Man, endless companions? That would’ve came in handy in my first play through of fo1..
The Mass Effect soundtrack playing in the background has me feeling some kind of way.
Tunnel Snakes Rule.
You don't know how badly I want to earn a perk called Snake Eater in a Fallout game. Also, there's a bizarre lack of snake enemies in Fallout. Spiders too. How odd
Snakes would be much harder to put in than another humanoid or quadruped. They require a unique skeleton, unique animations, different pathing, etc. That's super expensive for an enemy that you probably wouldn't see in more than a handful of locations. That being said, it would be super cool.
Thanks. Always wondered about them.
Thank you for watching! 💜💜💜
I have nothing of value to add that hasn’t already been said, so commenting to help the channel in the algorithm. ❤️
Always love these vids - they’re great while I work on mods.
Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜
These npc's could have helped flesh out those open empty arias that are sometimes bland to traverse...
25:56 - Great gem of a video! What song is playing here?
Thank you so much! Uncharted Worlds from the Mass Effect OST!
@@TriangleCity Awesome song! Thank you so much! The song is great for videos.
5:58 What about Vault City in F2? Wasn't this THE group that left Vault 15 with Geck?
Where do you get your music from?
wtf the Vipers sound fucking awesome why where they just generic goons in FNV
This video is awesome to create some RPG stories... Thank you!
I love this,can't wait for more fallout 4 and skyrim/elden scrolls in general
Was the sponsor choice on purpose for the topic?
That would be awesome if they added the two other raiders to the game. That would be a great reboot for the Franchise.
Is that the mass effect soundtrack I hear in the background? Specifically galaxy map music iirc
It is! The Uncharted Worlds track :)
5:49 Vipers
23:46 Jackals
Oh hell yeah!
Thank you so much! 💜💜💜
It took me three different tries at starting fallout 1 before I could actually get into it but god damn once I did that game became my favorite in the series. Anybody who is a fan of retro games has to play fallout.
Is there any cut content regarding the lore behind Nuka Cola Quartz and Victory? It always bugged me that there was never any kind of story or explanation for them.
Not that I'm aware of, but it's possible it existed at one point and was deleted. Bethesda were much better at deleting unused content that Obsidian
I just wish they expand on the aftermath of the master the psychers and other stuff. And just remake 3 and nv with all cut content easiest millions to make
Where did you find the New Vegas mod that adds fallout 4 raider armor in the thumbnail
Anybody remember the cut line when you raided Mr. House's chambers to access his body? After you activate the wall door with the terminal, Mr. House's line "It's Fallout time!" Is played. And the courier jingle-jangles past the securitrons and kills him.
22:11 Van Buren Vipers
and then they sent a detachment to West Vergina. In 2010.
Hopefully, someone makes a mod for FO1, 2, 3, and NV. All being connected. One day that is.
We can dream ✨
I love the feinds and khans
always a neato video.
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Great War happened on October 23rd, not October 3rd... October 3rd 2077 will be my 90th birthday haha
Woohoo this sounds great
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what's the song in 27:52
It's from the FNV OST
One of original raider clans from California reduced to just random villains with no lore smh
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Done
You know what, I love your channel and I'm not going to skip that sponsor spot.
hey glad you talked about some Raiders my friend, wish Bethesda would have fleshed them out better same with Gunners and Talon Company
The slavers from fallout 3 were cool too. It's a terrible thing but completely believable.
R E S O N A N C E H O M E
You know 😎
Jackals sounds like what the pack in nuka world should have been, instead of a weird gang of furry's
based
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Vipers followers of set. jackels followers jabalzog. Probably not but be cool conan nod if they were.
Murder hobos
Bro I can't stop farting..
The only interesting raiders were from Fallout 3. That anarchistic punk aesthetic made them enjoyable to listen to.
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U are thw phycho and mentats to my entertainment as U are the phycho an mentats to dr mobeus biojell
First yehaw
God I love dill pickles, I know this doesn't have anything to do with the video but dill pickles are good
They are incredible
we’re with the vipers
“Oooo really, what’s that your Girl Scouts group?”
When you realize Shattered Space is just a poor re telling of cut fallout content 😮