Mario Bootlegs for the Genesis - But does it work on Real Hardware?
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Happy Mario Day! So, what a time to test some Mario bootlegs that got released for the SEGA Mega Drive (Genesis). How will the Nintendo mascot fair on its rival's consoles? Well, it's a long story...
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Console Wars
0:47 - A new rating?
1:42 - The main driver
2:05 - Super Mario Bros. Genesis
4:35 - Super Mario Bros. 2 Genesis
7:41 - Super Mario World Genesis
9:08 - Mario 3 - Around the World
14:32 - Mario 4 - Space Odyssey
15:35 - Super Mario World 64
17:08 - Maybe Mario should stick to what he's good at
Bloopers: • Bloopers - Mario bootl...
Unused/deleted scenes - • Deleted/Unused scenes ...
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You know it's running on actual hardware when those Mega Drive jailbars are showing.
At so you mean?
What do you mean?
Don't look up Genesis Jail Bars. Once you notice them, you'll never unnotice them.
@@GlitchTheG4merthe RGB video output of some Mega Drive / Genesis consoles has vertical "stripes", mostly in the blue / blue-ish colours, which I believe are caused by interference from the composite video output. These are known as "jailbars".
@@redhotsonic😂
6:40 I see Peach is having the same problem properly identifying Sonic that Amy used to have.
Super Mario 64 looks pretty different than I remember
Ok
Hey, Gary!
8:44 Okie doki, off to hell I go! - Mayro , 2024
I think I did a good job with that voice clip lol
Wait what@@HogeezHoagies
@@dawierdkid It was-a me! I'mma Mario!
@@HogeezHoagies He's right!
Perhaps "Around the World" was expected to be played on a certain bootleg of a Mega Drive that behaved in different ways that the game accounted for, instead of a genuine one? Just a guess.
Or maybe it was only intended to ever be run on emulators and through those cheap SOAC consoles
BMB, the Russian developer, likely only assumed people wpuld be playing it on Russian Sega clones. A few later Chinese Famicom bootlegs have issues running on authentic hardware vs. clones.
Yup, it's a Russian Genesis clone thing here. Same for BMB's other games.
That would make a lot of sense actually.
@@zacharypierce2970 That's pretty freaking surreal 🤣 usually it's the other way around lmao
So those cheap clones are almost like "original hardware" to some extent, in their own right, as they have their own original compatible games.
"Roped in for free"... I'd put it as "freely involved", hah. It was common to "reuse" "engines" between bootlegs from what I could tell as I have encountered these specific ones during the 2000s, even if I originally had a Dendy at the time which was an NES clone.
Didn't stop me from looking at other games on other systems via emulators, though, found those and was... puzzled to say the least. Oh, and whilst this isn't mentioned in the video, "Around the World" one has an in-game shop for powerups if you pause and hit "C".
ruclips.net/video/KZEaJT-lw5c/видео.html Seems like it's also common for these kinds of bootlegs to have terrifying game over screens. Dunno who could make this up...
Around the World did NOT have a shop. It's Mario 4 Space Odyseey that did, although I ran out of time to include it in the video as it didn't affect the ratings :) And again, thanks for the translations!
Not even I am free from misremembering stuff, considering the testing was done a while ago.
And it's a pleasure working with you. 🧡
@@Imfernolistico Uncle Jobel referenced, gobless🙏
It looks like Mario 3 Around the World failed to go around the world with different regional consoles.
This is an excellent and well-documented video, as well. Bonus points for including Super Mario Galaxy's soundtrack.
It's even funnier when the absolute madlads at the sonic romhacking community were able to do what these bootleggers couldn't: make Super Mario run on Genesis hardware. The anti-piracy features were simply far too effective and thwarted every attempt each bootlegger made.
@@Gaia_BentosZX5 The Sonic ROM hacking community is not the community that ports Mario to hardware. Unless you mean a community where homebrewers or bootleggers put the character on the Genesis, then it makes sense.
Everytime RHS uploads, I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
I should probably get that checked out.
You need Dr. Mario.
THE OLD INTRO IS BACK! YESSSSS!
2:05 "Good riddance!" Totally agree, Mario. Gosh, I hate those guys.
I also agree.
We're not going for a big trip "Around the World" with this one. I can only imagine what it would be like to play these on an Atgames Genesis...
It would be renamed to the "End of the World"!
Around the world, and you can't play it on almost any Mega Drive from any part of the world
Also, I'm playing an Atgames Portable on my TV right now XD
I'm gonna imagine that the music would be so garbled that you couldn't even make it out.
So, I’ve got a theory. When the NES/FC was first cloned, it was not a perfect clone and had some quirks. Because of the fact that most bootleg games developed for the hardware were created specifically to run under these limitations and hardware quirks, many behave differently or even break when played on official systems. Future clones were made with these games in mind and purposefully kept these issues, even modern NES-on-a-chip systems have them. My guess is Mario 3: Around the World is much of a similar case. It was developed in China but made to be sold in Russia, hence the game being in Russian. Chances are, it was tested and developed on a Genesis clone. And clone manufacturers needed to base it off something, so what did they do? Buy a random Genesis they found, not knowing it was a specific revision. The clone manufacturers imported a specific Genesis and cloned that, accidentally making it so the sound doesn’t work entirely the same. Then, the game was developed on that unit and never tested on official hardware until the last minute, which would explain why the issues all seem to be linked to playing sound (block breaking sfx, pipe sfx, death sound, music, etc.) When they did test it, they found it didn’t work on specific models, and quickly implemented a fix. (Though they likely didn’t test that fully either and so yet more problems resulted)
0:46 I'll politely decline, but what I won't is the amazing quality of this video. Bang-up job, mate, absolutely love the little details that I noticed alongside the brilliant editing.
6:39
_THANK YOU _*_SONIC_*
_THE KINGDOM IS SAVED_
_NOW TRY AGAIN_
15:53 I need a 10-hour extended of this
Gimme like an hour, and you'll get it
@@DryPaperHammerBrolies
@@jaredlee6591It's been a while since I edited shit
@@DryPaperHammerBro it’s you who said one hour not me
Let me point some things out:
1. Please DO NOT call these homebrews. Homebrews are original games (most of the time, sometimes they're fan games) made by either one guy or a team usually sold first-hand. Bootlegs, on the other hand, are games made by companies using copyrighted franchises to make a quick buck and are usually sold using third-parties.
2. The first game you tested wasn't a bootleg, but rather a 2010 homebrew.
3. I think the problem with Mario 3 & 4 were they were made and tested on clone Russian "Dendy" hardware (which used very different and more exploitable hardware than the real deal) and therefore why they don't work as well on official consoles.
Other than that, great video!
So, after some research, all of these games are bootlegs. Except the very first showcase as you said is a homebrew. I did say in the video "some are ports/homebrews" which I was referring to SMB1 on the Genesis. Then according to this site below, the homebrew was pirated and then sold on. So, yes, you're correct, SMB1 itself isn't technically a bootleg, but it was pirated and sold on. Maybe "bootleg" was the wrong thing to say, but meh, it's done now :)
bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._(Sega_Mega_Drive)
all bootlegs are technically homebrew my man.
EDIT: nevermind, thought you were complaining about him calling bootlegs homebrew, not the other way around.
No, you knew damn well what you were doing, clickbaiter. @@redhotsonic
@@redhotsonicAlso, don't make videos on things you have no knowledge of. Makes you look like a right twat.
@@frog9304wow you're so cool for that. harassing people in comments for no reason because you have a sad life and nothing better to do 👏👏 give this man an award.
As a long time Vinesauce and Varhskelethor fan, awful bootlegs like this are familiar to me. I'm surprised any of these worked at all.
4:42 (Record scratch)
“Time for good old Google Translate.”
15:33 rhs learned russian just for this episode
👍
1:59 "toad" "daisy" "croc" and "dr. Wily" are my favorite lines that you've made
In my personal opinion i'd say that they're all broken except for the first one the NES original, at least when that one doesn't show the full graphics you can just reload the game and the graphics come back.
This was a great video. Glad to have you back again RHS.
I nearly agree. With all the EverDrives, this is the case. But as explained, if you put the ROM only on a cart (no EverDrive menus), the level graphics are shifted. And no amount of rebooting/reloading will fix it. Unless you have a TMSS consoles. It's a bizarre one for sure 🤔
There *ARE* actually physical cartridges of Super Mario World 64, New Super Mario World, and Mario 4: Space Odyssey, and it has been confirmed that all 3 completely work on a Genesis Model 1 (courtesy of SpaceHamster). Meaning, potentially, Mario 3: Around the World and Mario 4: Space Odyssey ALSO have some form of copyright protection?
Mario should definitely keep off old SEGA consoles, at least for now. Who knows, Nintendo and SEGA could collaborate to have a Mario game on their console, if they do make a new one. Thank you @RedHotSonic for entertaining us over the years.
5:41 in old games, the game on collision with enemy just checked if your vertical speed is falling, and if its not it kills you
“It’s-A-Me! Mario On The Genesis!”
Also Haven’t Seen U In A While, Redhotsonic! ❤🎉
Also redhotsonic, I very much loved your channel when I was younger, and i’ll come back to your discord server in september
14:47 - Space Odyssey, definitely unrelated to the games Super Mario Galaxy (2007), Super Mario Odyssey (2017) and even the film 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968).
New Rating System:
Yes - Game works with little to no issues
Partially - Game works with a few problems that are by passable
No - Game barely or doesn’t work at all
Potentially - Not enough of the game was finished for any of the above to be verified
Pretty much! I'll admit I've changed the criteria a tad as the series has evolved but you've pretty much nailed them on the head.
Poor "Undetermined" got shafted lul
@@Imfernolistico It still exists 😛
1:58 bro really called toad a Goomba 💀
"RedHotSonic?" More Like "BlueColdMario"
WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS TWAT-
RHS, my man! This video is sow awesome!
It’s almost as if SEGA wanted to beat Nintendo so much they stopped Mario games from running properly on the Genesis / MegaDrive
The idea that a bootlegger would implement copy protection on their "game" is ridiculous. I'd be bewildered at their greed if such was true.
We suffered from the last time you played Sonic Bootlegs. Now time for us to suffer again!
Gotta love how this was posted on Mar10
You should try Mario's Mystery Meat on the SNES, it's quite an amazing accomplishment for how much stuff is in it for a rom hack made on Super Mario World
He didn’t actually hit the roof, that’s a dislike.
Glad to see more of ColdBlueMario.
it's weird how I've seen quite a few of these bootlegs being talked about from people here in Brazil, or more specifically, from Kane, from Kane TV, with him even having a cartridge for one of the ROMs... and tbh I wouldn't doubt some of these bootlegs would have some different chipset on their cartridge, that would make them work on the local modified hardwares of the country they were made at, maybe even on some other Mega Drive models
8:02
For anyone who couldnt see it:
Yes, I'm aware this is the Super Famicom cartridge.
I don't have the American cartridge.
Let me have this.
Pretty please with a cherry on top.
Mr.Hamburger Man: Loves sonic.
Mark Auer: Loves Mario
I've been missing the BDIWORH in my life these past few months, glad to be blessed with another! hope you're doing great. :D
Editing is sublime in this video, absolutely love it. Glad I could help out with testing, even if it failed on every single obscure console I own 😂
16:06 "The gameplay engine should feel comfortable for the average Mario player out there."
No. This game does not control well.
lol, fair enough!
Once again another banger video, and I enjoyed all the twists and turns with this one!
I’m so incredibly happy to see you upload again. Missed you loads buddy 👍
RHS doesn’t even know that he got Princess Peach, Yoshi, Bowser, and the Hammer Bro’s names. LOL.
Who are they?
Bruh
If they're not Luigi they don't matter.
6:18 *Activates Sr Pelo table slamming*
I love these video's, keep up the great work man!
6:38 Has Peach been playing too much Mortal Kombat as Johnny Cage?
Yeah, that's where my mind went 🤣
This Redhotsonic a-a-a-h scream should get a 10-hour version!
Forget Schrödinger's cat, it's about RedHotSonic's Russian Mario games now. He doesn't know if they want to work or not until he hits the bricks.
Just in time for Mario day !! Amazing video
amazing video rhs! Always love the videos
That makes 5 ratings now.
Yes
Partially
No
Undetermined (from the 32X video)
Potentially (from this video)
1:55 THATS MY NOTEBOOK!
It's funny seeing an audio driver option for 16 bit proprietary consoles. The bootleg market really did come with so many bizarre and unique hardware combinations, but coding compatibility for several different audio chips sounds like a nightmare honestly, especially since the difference in samples between the consoles.
glad to see you back! hope you're doing well. :)
Bro your content is so good and well scripted that it blows my mind you only have 83000 subs! Keep it up been following a long time.
You forgot the rating: undetermined ( for ur region lock out )
It's been a long time I've seen you man. I love your hardware videos, it interested me.
its nice to see this series going again
Just tried Mario 3 on my European Megadrive Model 1 and I can break blocks but it crashes when falling down a pit or entering a pipe
After messing with the sound menu I got the pit death to work correctly but the pipe still gave issues
Why is it like this!?
14:29 Well, technically, it would be partially, since it did work on Model 2 systems after all. But the fact that you chose "NO" makes sense, especially for most systems.
15:32 Ditto.
Just what I needed on a Sunday!
Does Mario 3 Around the World crash or stop the music when played on chinese/russian Genesis clones?
I think it was made with Genesis SoC clones in mind
Thanks for the great video. I really enjoyed this one. Had a lot of drama and soooo many genesis consoles 🙌
It's actually pronounced "Mario 3: Vokrug sveta", something like that
The absolute irony of bootleg carts having copy protection.
Good pick for the ending music
Your slowly becoming "bluecoldmario"
Genesis Does redhotsonic a job.
Love content like this! Keep up the awesome work! new subscriber!
Awesome video like always RHS! ♥
Greetings from Austria!
funniest, interesting and most entertaining BDIWORH video so far. we need more of this excellent work RHS
I am the only one that the game "Super Mario Bros" works for me without errors, and that my SEGA console is a Chinese one that imitates the Genesis 3, and an Everdrive-MD 2x v38 cartridge, And the games Mario 3: Around the World & Mario 4: Space Odyssey also work well for me, the only difference is that the music will stop when it makes contact with a block, enters a pipe or when it dies, so I have to disable the sound to listen to these songs without them stopping.
Just so everyone who can't read Cyrillic script (I can read it, despite being Polish), Mario 3's subtitle is "Vokrug Svyeta", and Mario 4's subtitle is "Kosmicheskaya Odisseya".
The editing is so good, a big step up, well done mate!
14:58 If you thought that was grim, wait until you see the one with Felix the Cat... let's just say the word "HET" becomes something else in your psyche 😬
It's not "HET", you dunce. It says "Niet" in Cyrillic script.
My favorite example of wild bootlegs still has to be the russian translation of a ps1 bugs bunny game where bugs yells cyka blyat when he gets hit lmfao
Gamtec Super Mario World is the only one who works on real hardware though.
Finally you're back
Great Video Again, Don't give up this content❤❤
Redhotsonic has returned!
"ColdBlueMario" would be a funny channel to have
1:57 "Mario, Luigi," Goomba, Princess Peach, Yoshi, and Bowser.
yay u returned
Thanks Rhs for the vid
I have a question: Does Sonic Jam 6 count as a Mario bootleg for the Genesis? Because it's literally just Super Mario Bros. but with Sonic (and the 3 hidden warp pipes in 5-2 are absent - they'd normally lead to World 6, 7 or 8, depending on which one you picked). It also has terrible controls!
After going further into the video, I noticed that Sonic Jam 6 and Super Mario Bros. 2 Genesis have the same *decent* (for a bootleg, anyway) music and the same terrible controls! (does SMB2 Genesis have a run button btw? Because SJ6 does.)
EVERY Retro gaming youtuber will ALWAYS end up encountering *_Mario 3: Around The World_* and *_Mario 4: A Space Odyssey_* at some point....
I remember when SpaceHamster covered these bootlegs, though I'm quite surprised you had frequent crashes because he never encountered them in his video. And despite their unfair difficulty spikes, he was able to complete them to the end.
Fun fact: i was so scared of these game over screens,i could barley get out of my bed when i saw them when i was 7. It still tramatizes me.
That has got to be the most hilarious epilepsy warning segment in the channel.
Redhotsonic comes back.
this is a great Mar10 day special
None of them make the cut for my Everdrive playlist, they're all fairly janky. I wish they'd remade Super Boy 4 from Master System, that was actually a really good Mario bootleg/clone. The SMS version has close to 16-bit looking graphics, a Mega Drive version would have looked incredible.
Calling Toad A Goomba Is Wild
6:41 Now we know the type of relationship between Mario and Peach
How the frick can a bootleg be protected by copyright??
They didn't want other bootleggers to copy, hack, and resell their games. Ironic.
2:01 ou yes My favorite character from Mario series....Dr.Wawi
9:36 a lot of these songs were actually stolen from demos that came on an old music tool that emulated the MD (or similar) sound chip, the one on this part is a sped up version of "Space Standart" by Shiru
I'm glad we immediately thought it was weird that SMB port used the OPN2 for the music and not the SN7
2:07 let’s start off with the game that started all 😊
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