Surveyor here. As someone who sets points to within 1/16th of an inch all day, I approve this layout. Nice work. My advice to people watching, learn math and save money. Dont hire us, unless of course you dont trust your math skills or need to save time and have the money in the budget.
I'm not a builder nor am I in construction. I'm a fabricator by trade. I'm telling you that to tell you this. I watch your videos because I use the information you teach in my everyday life. You are an inspiration to everyone who strives for perfection. We can take this information and put it to work in so many different applications. Thank you Kyle and Greg. We really appreciate the work you put in because I know you are working two jobs to create this content and neither one is easy. Thank you again.
I owned a metal building business for over 20 yrs and you are spot on point and you explain very well . I am now retired due to cancer but I’m still here to enjoy your videos . Very good job friend
I'm an engineer and always learn alot from your builds. You guys are fun to watch too. Thanks for taking the time to record what you guys do and share your knowledge in such an enjoyable way.
I'm a 'retired' builder and watching you guys brings back so many fun memories. Sometimes the job sucks, and things get a little beyond your control, but keeping your head and lines tight is the story you can walk away with.
The tedious side of building that no one likes to talk about. But. Having the satisfaction of knowing it’s done right from the very start? That’s gotta be a great feeling and an excellent stress reliever later on. Thanks for the insight!
Form a loop around your finger Twist the line 5-6 times Hook the loop over the nail Pull the main line tight while taking slack up with the tail end Slide or move all twist close to the nail For additional security you can wrap around the nail 2 times but it usually not needed I have found this to hold tightly and have used it for over 30 yrs. No knots, no tangles, no confusion Give it a try I think you’ll like it You guys do great work! The attention to detail is superb!
thank you, since Iam learning as an Environmental Health Officer, I have started to familiarize myself with the layout of a building which can be useful to a safety officer on advising on what is required in a layout. Excellent job
I don’t think I’ll ever need this info, but the video has made me want to take a hands on part in building my home. I want to do it in 3D first and I don’t think 3D modelers for architecture learn the foundational information - no pun intended. If they did, they’d be able to deliver physically accurate plans and renderings that don’t require adjustments from contractors. Correct me if I’m wrong. This has inspired me to keep watching and learn more from you. You make it so easy to understand as well. Great teacher. You could make great paid courses if you ever wanted to set up a passive income opportunity. I’d imagine that this type of relevant information wouldn’t die out any time soon.
I was a surveyor for 40 years, and did a lot of layout. So I enjoy watching you guys doing layout. Great job in measuring and cross checking your diagonals. Layout is all about checking and rechecking. Thanks for showing the string line knot - I have never seen that before.
Excellent video my friend. I had been in the trades for 30 years or so now and it is so nice to see a contractor taking a few extra minutes to make sure that the envelope of the structure to be built is perfectly square. What people do not realize is that, if you are just slightly off, every trade that comes in after you will have to fight it in order to make things work. The few extra minutes spent laying envelope out correctly now will save a lot of money in the end, as the contractors that come in after you will not have to wast all that time attempting to figure a way to make it work. The little details can make you or break you, and it is refreshing to see a guy that takes the time to do things the right way! Good job! I just started following you and am excited to see what else you have for us.
This is great. I’ve been given layout duties at my small mountain town company doing ICF Fox block foundations. I’ve done about 5 but this last job was my first being foreman and lots of these tips will make our job much smoother the next time. This current one came out 3/4 out of square (we haven’t poured yet and it’s 2x6 on inch concrete but I love this method of getting it really tight. I also use the calculator and the diagonal but I make an arc because we don’t have two 100 foot tapes. Gonna invest in that. I love the nail idea. I love the one board string line board. I love leveling the board to perfection. I’m 30 and running projects above my head so a lot of this will improve my life. Thanks so much for
Remember that guy in your high school math class that said, "I'll never use that in real life"? You proved that guy wrong, I'm 73 years old and I still use trig and geometry. I may be a little bit of a perfectionist, so I love your level of precision. As a retired air traffic controller, precision is kind of a necessity.
Kyle, I started watching your channel a little earlier than this in 2018, before I had started "Coming to Full-age in Christ" channel, but this was one of my favorite videos, where you were showing us how to layout for a building. This was a really great video! I know it's easy to let some of the negative comments get to you after all these years and millions of comments, good and the bad! You've helped a lot of people in the trade! This video has had nearly a million views! and more views than subscribers by 30 or 40 thousand. so... lots of great content! Thanks, Kyle!
Right on. If only I new how to do math my life would be easier. Thanks for tips. As just a helper to the many handyman contractors I apprentice your channel is giving me insight on info I don't have so I in turn do better than I expected. Much thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. God bless America and your work
The construction apps on the smart phone make the math a no-brainer once you get familiar with the user interface on the app. That's hard part and it takes a little time and practice. My favorite construction app on my iPhone is the DeWalt "Mobile Pro," but sometimes I have my colleague's phone and it's got xNeat.com's "Construction Calculator," which works fine, too.
Just gotta say, I ain't a carpenter but I really appreciate the time you take in all of your videos to really TEACH (maybe not so much Greg haha) everyone how you do things. Every video I watch I feel one step closer to being able to build my own building one day (accurately). Cheers!
I spent my younger years as a member of a surveying crew. Steel tapes are the most accurate; nylon can stretch a little, or contract when it's really cold. Good explanation! You take some of the mystery out of it.
Metal chaining tapes are also affected by heat, a simple calculation for adjustment, just like old instruments that needed to have the temperature manually entered.
I am fully impressed! It’s just a complete ruclips.net/user/postUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 plan with the best resources and step by step instructions . These shed plans are so satisfying as if the sheds build themselves on their own. Worthy work Ryan!
Just bought a Spectra LL300N laser and I watched your pad layout. Excellent demonstration- by the way. I would like to see another similar layout video, but for now I can practice in my back yard. Eventually, I want to layout out a utility garage/pole barn with a flat floor, and learning this step really solidifies WHY you want to spend time getting the numbers right. Also, for the $30.00 paid, the Construction Calculator app is well worth the money. Thank you for the lesson. You're saving me a ton of money down the road by learning the right way from the start.
Fantastic video. I'm using this video to teach my High School Construction Trades class site layout. We've done it through the textbook but until we get them back on campus your video provides a great visual of what we've read in the book. Thanks
@@RRBuildings Students loved it. Your videos are direct and relevant, well scripted to teaching. We'll use as many as we can to reinforce the "remote learning". Thanks again.
One of the best tutorials I've seen. All of the pertinent information, well articulated and laid out, not dry and "instructiony" like many others, and you even threw in a bit of comedy for good measure (pun). Very well done.
It's cool that you chase it down to 32'nds. I use metric and on furniture consider about 1/4 mm from square be acceptable over 300mm, your looking for a millimetre over 8 or 9 meters so your end result is a 90 square to within a tenth of a millimetre per meter which is really accurate. I agree with your ideal that chasing perfection gets you much closer to it than if you just aim for something close form the outset. Its about allowable tolerance and if you're off on step one then you just multiply the error over the next 7 or 8 steps, being really close on step 1 means every other step compounds the error less and you end up with a better end product. Great videos, always look forward to them.
There's always many approaches to a problem solution: The part that l love most is his admission that no one is perfect. It's so humbling to admit that. He just earned my respect with that statement. I score his video 95%.
Thanks Kyle. I'm not a pro but I've built a few houses. I've always used the L shaped batter boards and never set them on the same plane. I fully understand how that impacts dimensions. My house was a challenge to layout as it's comprised of 17 8 foot wall segments all around 22 degrees. I have a full basement and an attached conventional rectangular garage. I established a benchmark at the center of the round house and ran a line, plumbed off it to a stake outside the perimeter of the garage. I used that line as my baseline to establish my garage layout as it needed to be parallel to one 8 foot segment. I don't have a laser level, but if I were ever to build again, I would definitely have one. To pull the line from the benchmark, I built a frame over it, high enough to reach over the hole to the garage. and hung a plumb bob to the benchmark. Having that and the stake outside the garage allowed me to reestablish my corners after excavation.of the garage frost walls and again after the footings were poured to layout the walls. I built with ICF's (my first time using) and was pretty pleased with the outcome. I hope to build a post frame structure in the future to house my hobby and toys. Around here I've never seen anyone use concrete footings. Digging the post holes will be a challenge and most likely will require a rather large track hoe as we're on rock on top of this mountain. (septic tank took full day with a CAT320 track hoe and a 6" hammer). fortunately, the rock found in the basement excavation was slate and shale and was dug with a ripper tooth on the CAT. I've thought of using a short stem wall instead of digging footings using foam to isolate it from frost..
Honesty and pride in your work is something rare. Can’t find that around where I live. I really appreciate these videos. It makes me think maybe I could tackle something like this on my own. Never done anything like this though.
I'm a perfectionist and I like to make sure my measurements are as close to perfect as possible. I've never built a building like this but I did draw the boundaries for where my Tuff Sheds were built and I got pretty close using the Pythagorean Theorem. I've always wondered how the big boys do it and you've explained it perfectly. Thank you.
Been there done that. You explain this process to a “T” It helps if you are mathematically minded but none the less is you can run one of those apps you can do it. I personally use one called construction master. Works the same, does the Pythagorean theorem the same. Always nice work. I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again we need more builders like you around. They are out there but I continue to hear of some one running off with the money and not doing the work. Great job KS!
And that is the sad truth when it comes to contracting and finding a reliable one who would not complete or start the job and take the money anyway, making the others look like pros and them somehow turning out to not be what you expected in some way, or they get themselves in such a bind you have to find another to get the job completed in your desired time frame.
I know people who work to tolerances of 2 Inches in building layout. :D They would beat you off the side claiming you were wasting there money with all those measuring. :p But I just love it. The steel panels ARE square. If the foundation is not accurate, it will come back at you later. Keep the good work coming!
Had a little trouble following the terminology at first but as the video progressed I was able to translate into my regional terminology. Good video and I got some great tips.
It's like learning directly from a master builder! Great tips and invaluable knowledge. I'm in the beginning stages of preparing-to-get-ready-to-think-about-maybe-looking-at-some-property-to-buy-to-build-something phase right now, so I'm following you.
I actually got a piece of string and practiced Greg's great knot tying trick. I am going to have to create a new book mark folder called "Great Knots" and save this video to that folder...but after watching more of this video I like your way too.
1/16" in 40 feet? That's 1 part in about 8000 in linear dimension and about 1 minute of arc in angle. I'm a machinist. If those tolerances were applied in proportion to the scale I work on, I'd have to be damn careful if I wanted to hit them. No wonder you have to check and re-check your layout. That's not only precision work, it's high precision work even though you're running strings over dirt. My hat's off, Kyle. That's classy work.
idk, if i missed my target by .008 id be scrapping many parts. sometimes you can be within a quarter mile and be okay, its just about knowing when you need to be spot on, and when you dont.
I was just thinking "we aughta try to convince him to get a metal lathe, and a mill, and see what comes of it." We just might create a monster... Come to think of it ... better include a surface grinder as well.
@@brianwalk1080.008"? Were you referring to my response? Better look at the math again. 1 part in 8000 (actually 7680) is 0.000130" per inch of feature size, well within having to account for temperature effects, validating your measuring equipment to calibrated standards, employing repeat zero technique, and other refinements depending on QA requirements. Decimal equivalents of reciprocal fractions are obtained by dividing the numerator by the denominator.
Wow!!!! I am so impressed with your commitment to superior quality work. I would hire your team in a heartbeat! My father always said "do it right or stay home"
great video. very informative, very concise and entertaining. not only does the work look nice all the way through the job but he sounds like a great boss/instructor.
Nice work boys, grab a couple 100' steel tape measures for even greater accuracy! I too, pride myself in very square work wether I'm excavating or pouring walls. Plus, the carpenter will love you.
I used to do all you are doing with string lines, 200' tape measures and batter boards. Now I hire a survey company (which usually costs me between 5 - 600.00. With the use of gps today it is quick and accurate and they take on the responsibility of the building location. It also makes quick work of buildings that are not just rectangular. I do however fine tune their pin placements as they are only accurate to with in an inch. Ok if you are sending a guided missile and it only misses by an inch, but not so good if you want a true and square building. Yet for those that have no clue your detailed video will help them.
I really appreciate this series. I am planning to start building a metal building home next year and am still in the planning stages. Trying to decide whether to build myself or hire it out. This series will definitely help with my decision. Thanks
if you are an inexperienced carpenter having someone else do it for you or at minimum having a professional assist you would probably be cheaper/safer for you in the long run.
Thanks for bringing us along on your adventures. I enjoy your presentation and appreciate the information. I can always learn a new process or detail that makes my life easier.
Great video. Nice to have a big clear site. I like to use the 3-4-5 method to find effect right angles. Once the first corner is set the rest follow really quickly.
That's a very simple building to layout, you don't need a calculator, if any thing maybe just a builders transit. You made a lot harder than needed to be, but I'm sure you meant well! -NorCal builder.
6:49 How cool is this💥 Being able to take a pic of the actual site & draw/layout the dimensions for us to see & understand. Several years ago, this wasn’t easily possible, but nowadays, even the “cheapest” of drones can capture a descent enough pic to do something like this for someone. Think this is so cool Kyle, & just love the DJI mavic drones👍🏻 Also, make my knots similar to the way Greg makes his😂....many ways to get the same result💪🏼
For tying strings to batter boards, I prefer the old school mason's "6 twirls + pull & tighten" method. It's so easy, it works every time, stays tight, and it's a snap to untie knot-free.
Welsh Rabbit this is the knot I learned on and still use to this day. Works great. Though I do use Kyle’s method when I need to start and stop for a change in direction. I’ll end my current run with a multiple twist and pull tight, then I’ll start the next run with Greg’s rendition of Kyle’s knot. I’m not sure why I feel the need to leave slack between the end of one run and the beginning of the next...
You're a great teacher Kyle, your videos have good close-ups too; the best explanation of layout I've seen. I don't have a laser, but I'll use your ideas with the help of a string level. Many thanks!
good video, most people probably think surveying is just leveling out everything and grading it with laser levels. But they be missing the squaring of footers or making the corners of slab true 90deg angles by inscribing triangles and using Pythagorean theorem to check. Its always easier to check lengths then angles to me so Pythagorean theorem /using strings to get lengths of hypotheses and legs is the way to go.
Really Really interesting video very informative to your style of building I can not emphasize enough how important it is that the entire crew gets along with each other. All of you are awesome can't wait to see the entire build series
I always enjoy your videos, and I learn a lot too. Greg’s knot demonstration stinks on ice. Hit him...hard. Chucklehead! I’ll be applying this knowledge on my own pole barn addition. Thank You.
Thank you Kyle! I'm learning a lot from your videos. I reference your material all the time. I'm planning a 50' x 100' shop in the Swan Valley of Montana. Sure wish you were available to build it. Keep up the great work.
interesting video, recently i was involved in laying out for a school here in Lusaka, your video has come at a right time as am working on my technical skills do more of such videos... bravo!
FYI: If you do a trucker's hitch to create the tension, there is zero chance of it coming loose once secured. It's still super easy to disassemble and make. To make it, you just run the working end of the line around the nail and through the slip knot, then pull and secure with another slipknot or half hitches.
Ah! The Pythagorean formula. I don't know how many people that I've tried to teach that to, for building lay-out. I hate those fiber tapes, the're too stretchy. I used a 200 foot surveyors chain. You would pull over the guy at the other end before that thing would stretch. Very good basic construction video!
I use the "6 Twirls with One Finger to Create the Loop - Stretch Tight as Hell around Nail & Pull Loose End Opposite (Left) to Knot Method". Release is One Handed & Instant! Pull Loose End Back (Right)!
Greg must have convinced you his way was better, because I just watched a similar video from 2 years into the future where Kyle is doing it the same way as Greg, lol good job Greg!
Kyle thanks for the video and please keep doing videos like this. I learned alot! Greg is funny, ya'll should do some more comparisons on his way and yours, it makes it fun.
Would've loved to have seen the Stabila LA180 L used to square up the string line layout. Im in the market to purchase one. I see you used it to set your initial "rough" layout with the pins/nails and spray paint. Would've been awesome to see it used for setting the string lines on the batter boards as well. Been watching your vids for quite some time now. I enjoy them a lot, keep up the good work!
Wow! I paused your video to type the above comment and as soon as I started it again you said "I want to show the people without the 180 Layout Station how to do this." I should have watched to the end before commenting LOL. I still wish you would have used the Stabila 180 L to showcase what it can do. Im looking for videos to push me over the edge and spend the $1800 haha!
Surveyor here. As someone who sets points to within 1/16th of an inch all day, I approve this layout. Nice work. My advice to people watching, learn math and save money. Dont hire us, unless of course you dont trust your math skills or need to save time and have the money in the budget.
use a steel tape not cloth
I'm not a builder nor am I in construction. I'm a fabricator by trade. I'm telling you that to tell you this. I watch your videos because I use the information you teach in my everyday life. You are an inspiration to everyone who strives for perfection. We can take this information and put it to work in so many different applications. Thank you Kyle and Greg. We really appreciate the work you put in because I know you are working two jobs to create this content and neither one is easy. Thank you again.
I owned a metal building business for over 20 yrs and you are spot on point and you explain very well . I am now retired due to cancer but I’m still here to enjoy your videos . Very good job friend
wish you well
I'm an engineer and always learn alot from your builds. You guys are fun to watch too. Thanks for taking the time to record what you guys do and share your knowledge in such an enjoyable way.
I'm a 'retired' builder and watching you guys brings back so many fun memories. Sometimes the job sucks, and things get a little beyond your control, but keeping your head and lines tight is the story you can walk away with.
Thanks for your careful attention to details. You don't get what you "expect." You get what you "inspect." Great videography and audio.
The tedious side of building that no one likes to talk about. But. Having the satisfaction of knowing it’s done right from the very start? That’s gotta be a great feeling and an excellent stress reliever later on. Thanks for the insight!
Form a loop around your finger
Twist the line 5-6 times
Hook the loop over the nail
Pull the main line tight while taking slack up with the tail end
Slide or move all twist close to the nail
For additional security you can wrap around the nail 2 times but it usually not needed
I have found this to hold tightly and have used it for over 30 yrs.
No knots, no tangles, no confusion
Give it a try I think you’ll like it
You guys do great work! The attention to detail is superb!
thank you, since Iam learning as an Environmental Health Officer, I have started to familiarize myself with the layout of a building which can be useful to a safety officer on advising on what is required in a layout. Excellent job
I don’t think I’ll ever need this info, but the video has made me want to take a hands on part in building my home. I want to do it in 3D first and I don’t think 3D modelers for architecture learn the foundational information - no pun intended. If they did, they’d be able to deliver physically accurate plans and renderings that don’t require adjustments from contractors. Correct me if I’m wrong. This has inspired me to keep watching and learn more from you. You make it so easy to understand as well. Great teacher. You could make great paid courses if you ever wanted to set up a passive income opportunity. I’d imagine that this type of relevant information wouldn’t die out any time soon.
I’m thankful I came across this video.
It’s people like you that really make the world go around.
I was a surveyor for 40 years, and did a lot of layout. So I enjoy watching you guys doing layout. Great job in measuring and cross checking your diagonals. Layout is all about checking and rechecking. Thanks for showing the string line knot - I have never seen that before.
Excellent video my friend. I had been in the trades for 30 years or so now and it is so nice to see a contractor taking a few extra minutes to make sure that the envelope of the structure to be built is perfectly square. What people do not realize is that, if you are just slightly off, every trade that comes in after you will have to fight it in order to make things work. The few extra minutes spent laying envelope out correctly now will save a lot of money in the end, as the contractors that come in after you will not have to wast all that time attempting to figure a way to make it work. The little details can make you or break you, and it is refreshing to see a guy that takes the time to do things the right way! Good job! I just started following you and am excited to see what else you have for us.
This is great. I’ve been given layout duties at my small mountain town company doing ICF Fox block foundations. I’ve done about 5 but this last job was my first being foreman and lots of these tips will make our job much smoother the next time. This current one came out 3/4 out of square (we haven’t poured yet and it’s 2x6 on inch concrete but I love this method of getting it really tight. I also use the calculator and the diagonal but I make an arc because we don’t have two 100 foot tapes. Gonna invest in that. I love the nail idea. I love the one board string line board. I love leveling the board to perfection. I’m 30 and running projects above my head so a lot of this will improve my life. Thanks so much for
Everytime I watch US building videos i am soooo glad about our metric system...
Metric is king, all this talk he could have just layed out two metric rectangles and cross checked them
I have never seen this type of work so obviously didn't understand much but I admire what you do and how you do it. Thank you for what you guys do.
Your explanations are just great...I just hogged the whole video and didn't have to skip! Great job, bro!
Remember that guy in your high school math class that said, "I'll never use that in real life"? You proved that guy wrong, I'm 73 years old and I still use trig and geometry. I may be a little bit of a perfectionist, so I love your level of precision. As a retired air traffic controller, precision is kind of a necessity.
Hello
My youngest daughter is a math whiz. She just received her master's degree MBA.
Next is PhD.
Kyle, I started watching your channel a little earlier than this in 2018, before I had started "Coming to Full-age in Christ" channel, but this was one of my favorite videos, where you were showing us how to layout for a building. This was a really great video! I know it's easy to let some of the negative comments get to you after all these years and millions of comments, good and the bad! You've helped a lot of people in the trade! This video has had nearly a million views! and more views than subscribers by 30 or 40 thousand. so... lots of great content! Thanks, Kyle!
You’re an inspiration for anyone who loves the wilderness
Right on. If only I new how to do math my life would be easier.
Thanks for tips. As just a helper to the many handyman contractors I apprentice your channel is giving me insight on info I don't have so I in turn do better than I expected.
Much thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. God bless America and your work
The construction apps on the smart phone make the math a no-brainer once you get familiar with the user interface on the app. That's hard part and it takes a little time and practice. My favorite construction app on my iPhone is the DeWalt "Mobile Pro," but sometimes I have my colleague's phone and it's got xNeat.com's "Construction Calculator," which works fine, too.
Just gotta say, I ain't a carpenter but I really appreciate the time you take in all of your videos to really TEACH (maybe not so much Greg haha) everyone how you do things. Every video I watch I feel one step closer to being able to build my own building one day (accurately). Cheers!
I wish I could post a photo here but I'm in the final stages of building a large barn, have come back to many videos here to get some refresher tips!
I spent my younger years as a member of a surveying crew. Steel tapes are the most accurate; nylon can stretch a little, or contract when it's really cold. Good explanation! You take some of the mystery out of it.
Metal chaining tapes are also affected by heat, a simple calculation for adjustment, just like old instruments that needed to have the temperature manually entered.
@@tacocat8867???
@@TinekaJasonPalmer pretty self explanatory ...
I am fully impressed! It’s just a complete ruclips.net/user/postUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 plan with the best resources and step by step instructions . These shed plans are so satisfying as if the sheds build themselves on their own. Worthy work Ryan!
Just bought a Spectra LL300N laser and I watched your pad layout. Excellent demonstration- by the way. I would like to see another similar layout video, but for now I can practice in my back yard. Eventually, I want to layout out a utility garage/pole barn with a flat floor, and learning this step really solidifies WHY you want to spend time getting the numbers right. Also, for the $30.00 paid, the Construction Calculator app is well worth the money. Thank you for the lesson. You're saving me a ton of money down the road by learning the right way from the start.
You rock... I appreciate you bringing it all down to a novice level. Helps us understand.
Fantastic video. I'm using this video to teach my High School Construction Trades class site layout. We've done it through the textbook but until we get them back on campus your video provides a great visual of what we've read in the book. Thanks
That’s awesome let me know how it goes
@@RRBuildings Students loved it. Your videos are direct and relevant, well scripted to teaching. We'll use as many as we can to reinforce the "remote learning". Thanks again.
One of the best tutorials I've seen. All of the pertinent information, well articulated and laid out, not dry and "instructiony" like many others, and you even threw in a bit of comedy for good measure (pun). Very well done.
It's cool that you chase it down to 32'nds. I use metric and on furniture consider about 1/4 mm from square be acceptable over 300mm, your looking for a millimetre over 8 or 9 meters so your end result is a 90 square to within a tenth of a millimetre per meter which is really accurate. I agree with your ideal that chasing perfection gets you much closer to it than if you just aim for something close form the outset. Its about allowable tolerance and if you're off on step one then you just multiply the error over the next 7 or 8 steps, being really close on step 1 means every other step compounds the error less and you end up with a better end product. Great videos, always look forward to them.
Exactly I agree
There's always many approaches to a problem solution: The part that l love most is his admission that no one is perfect. It's so humbling to admit that. He just earned my respect with that statement. I score his video 95%.
I liked the knots. I use it in crocheting. I tell my students "math is everywhere." You have just shown me another place where math is used.
Thanks Kyle. I'm not a pro but I've built a few houses. I've always used the L shaped batter boards and never set them on the same plane. I fully understand how that impacts dimensions. My house was a challenge to layout as it's comprised of 17 8 foot wall segments all around 22 degrees. I have a full basement and an attached conventional rectangular garage. I established a benchmark at the center of the round house and ran a line, plumbed off it to a stake outside the perimeter of the garage. I used that line as my baseline to establish my garage layout as it needed to be parallel to one 8 foot segment. I don't have a laser level, but if I were ever to build again, I would definitely have one. To pull the line from the benchmark, I built a frame over it, high enough to reach over the hole to the garage. and hung a plumb bob to the benchmark. Having that and the stake outside the garage allowed me to reestablish my corners after excavation.of the garage frost walls and again after the footings were poured to layout the walls. I built with ICF's (my first time using) and was pretty pleased with the outcome.
I hope to build a post frame structure in the future to house my hobby and toys. Around here I've never seen anyone use concrete footings. Digging the post holes will be a challenge and most likely will require a rather large track hoe as we're on rock on top of this mountain. (septic tank took full day with a CAT320 track hoe and a 6" hammer). fortunately, the rock found in the basement excavation was slate and shale and was dug with a ripper tooth on the CAT. I've thought of using a short stem wall instead of digging footings using foam to isolate it from frost..
Honesty and pride in your work is something rare. Can’t find that around where I live.
I really appreciate these videos. It makes me think maybe I could tackle something like this on my own. Never done anything like this though.
I'm a perfectionist and I like to make sure my measurements are as close to perfect as possible. I've never built a building like this but I did draw the boundaries for where my Tuff Sheds were built and I got pretty close using the Pythagorean Theorem. I've always wondered how the big boys do it and you've explained it perfectly. Thank you.
Those guys are fortunate to be working with a great builder. Good videos.
I like whatever you guys do, it's better than television.
Amen
This has to be one of the best layout videos on RUclips. Thanks for the help! Plus, I’ve always wonder how to do those knots.
Excellent presentation of layout and adjustment with both laser and string. Math and knots to boot. Thanks
Been there done that. You explain this process to a “T” It helps if you are mathematically minded but none the less is you can run one of those apps you can do it. I personally use one called construction master. Works the same, does the Pythagorean theorem the same. Always nice work. I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again we need more builders like you around. They are out there but I continue to hear of some one running off with the money and not doing the work. Great job KS!
And that is the sad truth when it comes to contracting and finding a reliable one who would not complete or start the job and take the money anyway, making the others look like pros and them somehow turning out to not be what you expected in some way, or they get themselves in such a bind you have to find another to get the job completed in your desired time frame.
Even though I may never build a building, it's great to see exactly how this process works. I will likely use this technique on a deck project.
I liked the process!
I know people who work to tolerances of 2 Inches in building layout. :D
They would beat you off the side claiming you were wasting there money with all those measuring. :p
But I just love it. The steel panels ARE square. If the foundation is not accurate, it will come back at you later. Keep the good work coming!
Yes. I've known those kind of "builders". A good young builder should run away from those cheap bosses.
Great info! Thank you for taking the time to explain this process. Most others would breeze over these important details. Great job!!!
Had a little trouble following the terminology at first but as the video progressed I was able to translate into my regional terminology. Good video and I got some great tips.
It's like learning directly from a master builder! Great tips and invaluable knowledge. I'm in the beginning stages of preparing-to-get-ready-to-think-about-maybe-looking-at-some-property-to-buy-to-build-something phase right now, so I'm following you.
Pride in work is evident..... great instruction - I'm impressed.
I actually got a piece of string and practiced Greg's great knot tying trick. I am going to have to create a new book mark folder called "Great Knots" and save this video to that folder...but after watching more of this video I like your way too.
That’s awesome
1/16" in 40 feet? That's 1 part in about 8000 in linear dimension and about 1 minute of arc in angle. I'm a machinist. If those tolerances were applied in proportion to the scale I work on, I'd have to be damn careful if I wanted to hit them.
No wonder you have to check and re-check your layout. That's not only precision work, it's high precision work even though you're running strings over dirt.
My hat's off, Kyle. That's classy work.
Well thank you never looked at it that way
Time to get out the surface grinder ;) :D
idk, if i missed my target by .008 id be scrapping many parts. sometimes you can be within a quarter mile and be okay, its just about knowing when you need to be spot on, and when you dont.
I was just thinking "we aughta try to convince him to get a metal lathe, and a mill, and see what comes of it." We just might create a monster...
Come to think of it ... better include a surface grinder as well.
@@brianwalk1080.008"? Were you referring to my response? Better look at the math again. 1 part in 8000 (actually 7680) is 0.000130" per inch of feature size, well within having to account for temperature effects, validating your measuring equipment to calibrated standards, employing repeat zero technique, and other refinements depending on QA requirements.
Decimal equivalents of reciprocal fractions are obtained by dividing the numerator by the denominator.
Wow!!!! I am so impressed with your commitment to superior quality work. I would hire your team in a heartbeat! My father always said "do it right or stay home"
Appreciate the videos do you have any lean to videos. Currently building a 12x36 lean to.
I really like the single batter board ! I'm going to use that from now on ! Thanks for sharing your knowledge !
great video. very informative, very concise and entertaining. not only does the work look nice all the way through the job but he sounds like a great boss/instructor.
I can tell you're a good guy to work for. Good on ya!
Nice work boys, grab a couple 100' steel tape measures for even greater accuracy! I too, pride myself in very square work wether I'm excavating or pouring walls. Plus, the carpenter will love you.
we do use a steel tape...just coated in nylon
I used to do all you are doing with string lines, 200' tape measures and batter boards. Now I hire a survey company (which usually costs me between 5 - 600.00. With the use of gps today it is quick and accurate and they take on the responsibility of the building location. It also makes quick work of buildings that are not just rectangular. I do however fine tune their pin placements as they are only accurate to with in an inch. Ok if you are sending a guided missile and it only misses by an inch, but not so good if you want a true and square building. Yet for those that have no clue your detailed video will help them.
Yet there are those who still think this or that is more than what they think it should cost.
I really appreciate this series. I am planning to start building a metal building home next year and am still in the planning stages. Trying to decide whether to build myself or hire it out. This series will definitely help with my decision. Thanks
if you are an inexperienced carpenter having someone else do it for you or at minimum having a professional assist you would probably be cheaper/safer for you in the long run.
So excited to follow the construction of a new building!
That's awesome! I use the 3-4-5 method and always check parallels as well to see which line is off and how much it needs to be corrected.
What a great video. So important to get the good start to build square and level!
This was incredibly helpful actually. Think it was the 3rd time to watch it and it finally all clicked.
Excellent video, you explain detail very well, and are easy to listen too. I salute you and your crew as excellent builders.
Thanks steve tell that to my wife haha
Thanks for bringing us along on your adventures. I enjoy your presentation and appreciate the information. I can always learn a new process or detail that makes my life easier.
Great video. Nice to have a big clear site. I like to use the 3-4-5 method to find effect right angles. Once the first corner is set the rest follow really quickly.
That's a very simple building to layout, you don't need a calculator, if any thing maybe just a builders transit. You made a lot harder than needed to be, but I'm sure you meant well! -NorCal builder.
6:49 How cool is this💥 Being able to take a pic of the actual site & draw/layout the dimensions for us to see & understand. Several years ago, this wasn’t easily possible, but nowadays, even the “cheapest” of drones can capture a descent enough pic to do something like this for someone. Think this is so cool Kyle, & just love the DJI mavic drones👍🏻
Also, make my knots similar to the way Greg makes his😂....many ways to get the same result💪🏼
Would also love to see more videos featuring the 180 Layout Station in the future!
I subscribed right after i saw this video. A LOT of great information for the professional DIYer.🥇
thanks man for the tutorial, it got you more work than the building itself. Great job!
For tying strings to batter boards, I prefer the old school mason's "6 twirls + pull & tighten" method. It's so easy, it works every time, stays tight, and it's a snap to untie knot-free.
Welsh Rabbit this is the knot I learned on and still use to this day. Works great. Though I do use Kyle’s method when I need to start and stop for a change in direction. I’ll end my current run with a multiple twist and pull tight, then I’ll start the next run with Greg’s rendition of Kyle’s knot. I’m not sure why I feel the need to leave slack between the end of one run and the beginning of the next...
Great work fellas! ...and thanks for keeping it clean so I can watch with my young boys.
You're a great teacher Kyle, your videos have good close-ups too; the best explanation of layout I've seen. I don't have a laser, but I'll use your ideas with the help of a string level. Many thanks!
good video, most people probably think surveying is just leveling out everything and grading it with laser levels. But they be missing the squaring of footers or making the corners of slab true 90deg angles by inscribing triangles and using Pythagorean theorem to check. Its always easier to check lengths then angles to me so Pythagorean theorem /using strings to get lengths of hypotheses and legs is the way to go.
58-5 5/16, what a mouthful for a simple straight-line measurement. I'll stick with metric, thank you very much.
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Really Really interesting video very informative to your style of building I can not emphasize enough how important it is that the entire crew gets along with each other. All of you are awesome can't wait to see the entire build series
I wish I’d seen your setup before I built my little well house! I think finishing the shed will end up a lot less fiddly for me. Thank you!
Lots of good info Kyle!! And Greg’s knots are awesome! And so is his truck!!
I’m not telling him Donny
I must say that this video is extremely informational.. Thanks for the Tips. Cheers.
I like this. Looking forward to more step by step things like this. Wish I was in the area so you can build my building down the road.
I always enjoy your videos, and I learn a lot too. Greg’s knot demonstration stinks on ice. Hit him...hard. Chucklehead! I’ll be applying this knowledge on my own pole barn addition. Thank You.
Thank you Kyle! I'm learning a lot from your videos. I reference your material all the time. I'm planning a 50' x 100' shop in the Swan Valley of Montana. Sure wish you were available to build it. Keep up the great work.
I love to watch you build the buildings....great job!!
Great tutorial and I love your preparation. Always plan great and layout everything.
Great video. Thanks for taking time out and showing us how to square up a building
Man only if you use the metric system. You'll make your life 5/16" times easier!! Great video regardless!! Thanks alot for the clarity!
Lol! Im happy randomly decided to watch this. You guys make learning great
I’m planning a garage build now. After watching your videos for a while it’s made me want one really bad lol
Awesome video. I’m learning about different aspects of real estate development. You’ve got a new subscriber!
interesting video, recently i was involved in laying out for a school here in Lusaka, your video has come at a right time as am working on my technical skills do more of such videos... bravo!
Ah, a fellow (Eagle?) Scout, that explains things. Looking forward to the rest of the build.
FYI: If you do a trucker's hitch to create the tension, there is zero chance of it coming loose once secured. It's still super easy to disassemble and make. To make it, you just run the working end of the line around the nail and through the slip knot, then pull and secure with another slipknot or half hitches.
Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to explain it so well.
Ah! The Pythagorean formula. I don't know how many people that I've tried to teach that to, for building lay-out.
I hate those fiber tapes, the're too stretchy. I used a 200 foot surveyors chain. You would pull over the guy at the other end before that thing would stretch.
Very good basic construction video!
Appreciate you sir..thank you for sharing..we understand %100 more when learning goes practically like this...keep up the good work..thumps up!!!
I use the "6 Twirls with One Finger to Create the Loop - Stretch Tight as Hell around Nail & Pull Loose End Opposite (Left) to Knot Method". Release is One Handed & Instant! Pull Loose End Back (Right)!
Greg must have convinced you his way was better, because I just watched a similar video from 2 years into the future where Kyle is doing it the same way as Greg, lol good job Greg!
Well explained and thanks for taking the time while working on the job site!
Thanks for the info Kyle! 👍🏻👊🏻 ...... Really no clear winner as far as the knots go, I think your's an Greg's we're both tied! 😉
Lol thanks.
Fred McIntyre everywhere
Kyle thanks for the video and please keep doing videos like this. I learned alot! Greg is funny, ya'll should do some more comparisons on his way and yours, it makes it fun.
Love your videos and your efforts for perfection!!! Perfect doesn't happen by accident!
You are the best. Thanks and May God bless you
Would've loved to have seen the Stabila LA180 L used to square up the string line layout. Im in the market to purchase one. I see you used it to set your initial "rough" layout with the pins/nails and spray paint. Would've been awesome to see it used for setting the string lines on the batter boards as well. Been watching your vids for quite some time now. I enjoy them a lot, keep up the good work!
Wow! I paused your video to type the above comment and as soon as I started it again you said "I want to show the people without the 180 Layout Station how to do this." I should have watched to the end before commenting LOL. I still wish you would have used the Stabila 180 L to showcase what it can do. Im looking for videos to push me over the edge and spend the $1800 haha!