Alice in Chains HATED Touring With THIS BAND

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  • Alice in Chains HATED Touring with this band.
    Formed in 1987, in Seattle, Alice in Chains original lineup consisted of frontman Layne Staley, guitarist jerry cantrell, bassist Mike Starr and drummer Sean Kinney.
    While a lot of bands sang about partying or chicks, Alice in Chains didn’t, tackling more dark subject matter, despite their goofy offstage persona. Bassit mike star would tell the lansing journal “We write about something to get it off our chests. We take out our aggressions on our music so we don’t have to be negative in person.
    Immediately following Alice in Chain’s debut album Facelift coming out in late August of 1990, the band did a few warm up shows in seattle. Soundgarden finished their Louder Than Love tour and Alice in Chains manager Susan Silver, was also married to Chris Cornell so she hired Soundgarden’s crew to work for Alice. The band had a total of six people working for them - 3 tech’s, a merch seller a sound engineering and a tour manager. They also got Soundgarden’s tour bus.
    The tour to support Facelift saw Alice open for a variety of acts including Van Halen, Poison, Slayer, Megadeth , Anthrax and today’s topic - Extreme. Let’s just say Alice in Chains weren’t fans of touring with Extreme.
    Following those warm up shows in seattle, Alice opened Extreme doing a month long tour with them. Extreme were supporting their record Extreme II: Pornograffiti. They were playing at venues ranging from 500 to 1500 people. Extreme’s crew with the exception of a few people had no real experience touring. It seemed like to the Alice in Chains guys and their crew Extreme simply hired their buddies and they had no humor on tour or camaraderie with the guys from Alice in Chains. At Extreme’s homecoming show in Boston, the band’s production manager arrogantly to a crew member of Alice in Chains “Wow, you ever been in a room this big?” to which the crew member responded “Wow, is this as big as a stadium.” The production manger told him to f off and walked away.
    Guitarist Jerry Cantrell would reveal to author greg praato - starting out with a really lame tour for us - opening for extreme for thirty days. Jesus christ a couple of the guys were cool, but there were other guys who had egos. At the end of that thirty days, we had enough. We had been playing to empty rooms too - they didn’t have their more than words hit yet.
    We gotten attitude about what we could do , what we couldn’t do onstage. He’d go on to reveal that Alice in Chains members were not allowed to smoke or drink onstage, because Gary Cherone liked to perform barefoot
    one of Alice’s road crew people would tell David De Sola in the book Alice in Chains the untold story Extreme fans were generally little seedy guitar-player-wannabe dudes. I think they were starting to hit with that ‘More Than Words’ god-awful ballad; they took that one to the bank,”
    Another crew member would add. They were just really, really, really cheesy guys. Their music was exactly like they were.”
    According to the same crew guys, the guys from Extreme had an old school rock mentality meaning that they screwed over the opening act, turned down their PA, didn’t give them adequate lighting or soundchecks. At one gig in Atlanta the band played on such a small stage that Extreme’s drum riser took up the whole center, so Layne had to sing to the side of the stage and Extreme’s crew did nothing to move their stuff to make the performance a little more bearable for the opening act.. According to Alice in Chains crew, because of that horrible experience with Extreme they never treated their opening acts like crap.
    At the last gig, the members of Alice in Chains had enough of Extreme and their rules and drank on stage, spilled their drinks on purpose and smoked. The band had the attitude that since it was the last gig ot the tour they couldn’t get fired. Mike Starr would according to jerry get nervous on stage and had a few beers in him and ended up puking on the drum kit. There was an incident earlier in the tour when Starr was drunk and jumped on Extreme’s bass cabinets knocking them over, angering the road crew from Extreme. Alice made it through the tour joining up with Iggy Pop playing theaters, a considerably more fun experience.
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  • @RockNRollTrueStories2
    @RockNRollTrueStories2  3 месяца назад +20

    What topic should I do next?

    • @fallenangelcrimson
      @fallenangelcrimson 3 месяца назад +2

      please talk about the band medicine! pleeeeeaaaaseeee X{
      their best known for their b side (like the smiths lol) Time Baby II/III and were in the Crow some of their other well known songs are
      The Pink, Miss Drugstore, Candy Candy, Slut, & 5ive
      their also remembered for their 1993 cult classic, The Buried Life

    • @chrisheathcote3697
      @chrisheathcote3697 3 месяца назад +3

      The 1992 Skid Row tour with Soundgarden and Pantera!

    • @normanlacy3390
      @normanlacy3390 3 месяца назад +2

      If I missed it I apologize, but Dave brocke and his amazing dark soul with gwar. Shine on you crazy diamond

    • @TheChristafershawn
      @TheChristafershawn 3 месяца назад

      How about a piece on the The Minutemen and the loss of their frontman and their reforming as fIREhOSE? They were on the SST label and toured extensively with Black Flag. That would be cool.

    • @MOAONAABE
      @MOAONAABE 3 месяца назад +3

      What topic should I do next?.
      the new trends....... i see the chicks are letting their bush grow back in, and now its time to shave off them funky hillbilly beards.

  • @Hawk512.
    @Hawk512. 3 месяца назад +151

    We saw AIC open for Extreme at The Thirsty Whale near Chicago. It was 1990 and most were there to see Extreme. AIC was not going over too well and I’ll never forget. Layne said “Don’t worry… we only have FIVE MORE songs left!” It was hilarious and awesome!

    • @RockNRollTrueStories2
      @RockNRollTrueStories2  3 месяца назад +8

      Haha thanks for sharing

    • @Snoopdog333333
      @Snoopdog333333 2 месяца назад +5

      That's awesome!!! So mad I missed that. Spent a lot of time at the Wale

    • @thomascrown5953
      @thomascrown5953 2 месяца назад +6

      I could definitely see that being the case, as they were just two very different types of bands - Extreme being more mainstream pop-rock and AIC being a dark hybrid of grunge & metal. Extreme's audience weren't going to be interested in the dark, heavy sound of AIC. Grunge had not taken off yet in 1990 and pop-rock bands were big at the time, so AIC got booked as the opening acts to some groups like Extreme & Poison that they just weren't compatible with musically.

    • @StoneOnGtr
      @StoneOnGtr 2 месяца назад +1

      Watched aic open clash of the titans and get booed and pelleted all set. Funny how every other bands fault but their own. In story after story

    • @imaouima
      @imaouima 2 месяца назад +3

      @@StoneOnGtr AIC really didn't belong opening for a bunch of thrash bands though. It should have been Death Angel but their guitar player got injured in a car wreck or something so they had to cancel.

  • @helix4413
    @helix4413 3 месяца назад +74

    Barfing on a drum set before they play, Legendary.

  • @theophany1770
    @theophany1770 3 месяца назад +62

    I saw an interview with Nuno and he said he was in awe of Layne's voice and stage presence on that tour

    • @kat1york
      @kat1york 2 месяца назад +13

      Nuno was the only cool guy from that god-awful band. I'm from Beantown and would run into Nuno and Gary all the time. They played a lot of our local clubs. My boyfriend and I saw that tour with Alice, and we fell instantly in love with AIC.
      Nuno wasn't like the others. He was a genuinely nice guy.

    • @morgellon7877
      @morgellon7877 2 месяца назад +6

      I'm guessing he was one of the guys who were cool. I'm guessing Gary Charade wasn't.
      Nuno was huge in the guitar world at the time, which was still pretty big. He was always being featured in my dad's Guitar World and Guitar Player magazines; guys like Kirk Hammett were almost totally ignored, I suppose because Kirk wasn't all about the shred. I read a bit of Nuno's interviews, although I had no idea who he was; he seemed cool. It's a shame he never got to be known as much more than Extreme's guitarist, because he was a true virtuoso. I can tell now in hindsight he was being heralded by the desperate guitar mags of the early 90's as the guy who was going to save shred, but in reality he was simply too late to the party, and Extreme were just too lame a vehicle to deliver his excellence as a musician. He should have been big; he certainly was, for a minute, but he should at least enjoy the renown of guys like Ce Ce DeVille, who was an amazing guitarist, but not on the level of Nuno.

    • @kat1york
      @kat1york 2 месяца назад +1

      @@morgellon7877 Well put. I agree. 👏🏼

    • @jigglyboo8787
      @jigglyboo8787 День назад

      @@morgellon7877 ​ probably because Kirk has the nuance, taste, and feel, of a buzz saw

  • @RayLahey
    @RayLahey 3 месяца назад +272

    This is like cannibal corpse opening for Coldplay

    • @RockNRollTrueStories2
      @RockNRollTrueStories2  3 месяца назад +14

      Haha

    • @blanketjackson8075
      @blanketjackson8075 3 месяца назад +18

      Soundgarden opened for Skid Row, and so did Pantera! LOL

    • @WhenHariMetKari
      @WhenHariMetKari 3 месяца назад +6

      Shut up. That was a great tour.

    • @daBEAGLE1017
      @daBEAGLE1017 3 месяца назад +17

      ​@@blanketjackson8075skid row was also really cool with both bands Skid Row was "sort of" heavy back in the days.

    • @mikepalmer2219
      @mikepalmer2219 3 месяца назад +1

      Lmao

  • @frankartale1026
    @frankartale1026 3 месяца назад +74

    I saw AIC open for Van Halen on long island in october 1991. They were awesome ! Great Band. One of the best from the 90's

    • @cobra935o
      @cobra935o 3 месяца назад +6

      I saw them on that tour as well in Biloxi MS as I was stationed there at the time, my wife and I went to see Van Halen, but came out blown away and immediate life long fans of Alice In Chains.

    • @tony_n316
      @tony_n316 3 месяца назад +4

      Saw them on the same tour up in Worcester, MA.. Only, nobody knew who they were and honestly we didn't care... We were there to see VH. There were maybe 100 people watching them in a 15k seat venue. After 3 or 4 songs, nobody was getting into it, so Layne ended their set by saying... "Thanks for f*cking nothing" and he slammed his mic down as he walked off the stage.

    • @jasonhaynes2952
      @jasonhaynes2952 3 месяца назад +1

      Ironically, Gary Cherone eventually joined Van Halen after Sammy Hagar quit (which was short lived), and VH saw no success with him. Maybe because Eddie chain smoked on stage....idk lol. I saw them in concert with Gary, which wasn't a bad show because he'd play DLR songs and SH songs. But his writing with them impressed no one

    • @father1st894
      @father1st894 2 месяца назад

      Same tour ... Tampa or St. Petersburg

    • @SombraPiloto
      @SombraPiloto 2 месяца назад

      I saw that tour in Hartford on my 21st birthday.

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia 3 месяца назад +44

    Just watched Jerry Cantrell's Icons interview...every Alice In Chains fan needs to watch it! Great background on how Jerry got started as a musician as well as how the band got started.

    • @seaninness334
      @seaninness334 3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the recommendation. Cheers

  • @sfeigh
    @sfeigh 3 месяца назад +60

    There is an interview with Geddy Lee somewhere on the RUclipsr where Geddy talks about going on tour with The Joe Perry Project as their opening act for a number of shows.
    Geddy relates visiting with Joe before a show and asking if everything was okay, or if he needed anything, or if Rush could be of any help. Joe replied that everything was good.
    Geddy then told Joe that they always made it a point to treat their opening acts with kindness and respect, and not the way that Aerosmith had treated them when Rush was opening for them. Apparently Joe kind of stuttered and stumbled, said he couldn't remember, but, knowing it was possible, apologized to Geddy for anything that might have gone down.

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion 2 месяца назад +8

      RUSH will always be 1st class people and musicians.

    • @vincents9620
      @vincents9620 Месяц назад +2

      i saw Joe Perry Project get booed off a stage bottle thrown at them --they were horrible

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion Месяц назад +1

      @@vincents9620
      Where/when?

  • @curtywash
    @curtywash 2 месяца назад +33

    I was at that Boston show. It was my first rock concert. Alice was unknown. They shocked everyone with their dark heaviness. I remember the frightened look of the people who came to see Extreme. It was awesome. Alice was instantly cemented into my brain as the coolest band ever.

  • @grindtoothmedia120
    @grindtoothmedia120 3 месяца назад +23

    Nuno is a down to earth musician, but Gary Cherone and Pat Badger are known to be fussy and abrasive. That mix of bands is a polarizing choice. I'm a fan of both, but I doubt I'd want to see them together on tour.
    Nuno's guitar work was often part of my guitar teacher's suggested practice routines, especially songs like More than Words and Hole Hearted because he stressed about the importance of strong rhythm playing. I became a fan of AIC when they opened the Clash of the Titans tour for Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax. I'd heard We Die Young a few times, but when I saw them live, I really connected with the music. Sadly, they were received by mostly boos and chants for Slayer at the time and, much to my pleasure, Layne told the crowd to shut the F-up. I left that concert with Alice songs in my head and bought Facelift the very next day.
    I still listen to both bands very frequently. It's always sad to hear about the negative experiences of two favorite groups, but they were also a lot younger and perhaps less mature back then. Two groups with very different disciplines would almost certainly have a clash of egos and attitudes over the course of a tour.

    • @leemele1233
      @leemele1233 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m surprised they hit the road with Living Colour last year. Maybe they have finally matured

    • @greggmclaughlin9047
      @greggmclaughlin9047 2 месяца назад +2

      They were booed in Philly as well. On a side note Tom Araya from Slayer sang some background on their next album Dirt which I listen to as often as Seasons in the abyss

    • @dragons_red
      @dragons_red 2 месяца назад +2

      Most sane/sensible comment here. Thank you.
      I hate when people fanboy just because they aren't a fan of a particular band or their music.

    • @garyv2498
      @garyv2498 Месяц назад

      Dudes named Gary are normally fussy and abrasive.

  • @scottieray
    @scottieray 2 месяца назад +23

    Honestly can't believe AIC was an opening act. Face Lift was a rock solid album.

    • @marshalmagooo3899
      @marshalmagooo3899 2 месяца назад +3

      They were an opening act a real good portion of their career as a band

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 2 месяца назад +1

      It was but at the time they weren't that known outside of Seattle. Everybody opens for others in the beginning you don't just start out headlining.

    • @clayton5584
      @clayton5584 2 месяца назад

      Extreme is terrible just a bad joke

    • @jigglyboo8787
      @jigglyboo8787 День назад

      you gotta start somewhere and it sure ain't headlining

  • @yellowdog2181
    @yellowdog2181 3 месяца назад +23

    AIC would have hired their friends for crew if they didn’t have a hook up. Every band has done it when starting out

    • @DonnyOsmosis
      @DonnyOsmosis 3 месяца назад +3

      Great point.

    • @kommissar.murphy
      @kommissar.murphy 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah,a lot of these points are dunking on extreme for the sake of it .

    • @SonovaBish
      @SonovaBish 2 месяца назад +2

      Extreme was a major label band with a second record. This isn't "starting out".

  • @andrewpinner3181
    @andrewpinner3181 3 месяца назад +1

    Congrats & all the best for the new channel !

  • @DonnyOsmosis
    @DonnyOsmosis 3 месяца назад +69

    "Seedy guitar player dudes..." I feel bad - I was one of those guys! Saw Extreme and AIC at the Cat Club in September of 1990. I was 21 and weeks away from moving to Manhattan. My friend and I got there really early and stood right in front of Jerry (and then Nuno). Facelift had JUST been released and most people didn't know anything about Alice in Chains. They became one of my favorite bands and still are. I absolutely love their music with Layne. I was obsessed with their story. Jerry was clearly pissed off through the show but it was powerful. I think Mike Starr was drunk.

    • @user-zp7wh8en5g
      @user-zp7wh8en5g 3 месяца назад +9

      I'm still a big fan of both these bands. lol AIC came off a little bit whiny, obviously a one-sided story. Maybe they should have toured with Motorhead. Flame on!

    • @michellerosser9081
      @michellerosser9081 3 месяца назад

      ​@@user-zp7wh8en5g😢

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад

      @@user-zp7wh8en5ghuh? how is getting fxcked over by a headlining act whiney?

    • @Dr.Jekyll
      @Dr.Jekyll Месяц назад

      AIC sucks. Learn their lessons about drugs. They were a bunch of whiny, depressing, everything-sucks bitches. Good riddance, Layme Stale.

  • @brentfreeland5834
    @brentfreeland5834 3 месяца назад +74

    AIC opening for Extreme?
    That would be like Jimi Hendrix opening for the Monkees 😏

    • @thekingofbohemia1
      @thekingofbohemia1 2 месяца назад +8

      Ha! I still have a quote from that tour, "Strange and embarrassing. He'd be in the middle of Purple Haze and the kids would be going, 'We want Da-vy'" - Mickey Dolenz

    • @dragons_red
      @dragons_red 2 месяца назад

      No on both accounts. I love AIC and don't care for Hendrix, but Hendix was a beast that revolutionized music and guitar. Extreme was and STILL is a solid band writing great music with one of the all time legendary guitarists at the lead.
      Spare us your biased hyperbole.

    • @dancalcagno
      @dancalcagno 2 месяца назад

      Tell me you've never heard any of Extreme's songs beyond "More Than Words" without telling me that you've never heard any of Extreme's songs beyond "More Than Words."

  • @kevincarey1453
    @kevincarey1453 3 месяца назад +18

    I think the quote from the Alice in Chains book actually referred to "WEEDY little guitar player wannabee dudes" as opposed to "SEEDY" (maybe double-check that one)

  • @dannybursace9151
    @dannybursace9151 3 месяца назад +28

    Extreme has some solid albums though..when they were raw, seriously check out their earlier stuff

    • @robvegas9354
      @robvegas9354 3 месяца назад +14

      3 sides and punchline are absolute bangers!

    • @jimmyreeves4870
      @jimmyreeves4870 3 месяца назад +5

      They’re really good live. Still.

    • @joaquinlezcano2372
      @joaquinlezcano2372 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, and contrary to the popular belief, Gary Cherone was a pretty good singer

    • @aarongarcia4381
      @aarongarcia4381 2 месяца назад +1

      decent band at best

  • @jaybyrd2661
    @jaybyrd2661 3 месяца назад +8

    Saw the tour in Baltimore at Hammer jacks. Sept 90. AIC played a little less than an hour and we left. Saw them again two months later opening for Iggy at the same venue. What a time for live music.

  • @Damocles54
    @Damocles54 3 месяца назад +12

    I wish I'd have gotten to see them more than once.
    But that one time was amazing

  • @DB-sd5qw
    @DB-sd5qw 2 месяца назад +3

    The sad thing is that half of AIC are now in the spirit world. I saw Mike Starr at a Dokken club show in San Diego in 1995 after he left AIC,he seemed to be in good spirit. Layne was lost due to substance abuse brought on by severe bouts of depression. It is reported that he had been dead for two weeks when his friends and family found him deceased in his Seattle home weighing a mere 86 pounds. A decade after Layne’s death, Mike Starr would end up passing from a drug overdose as well. Rest Easy Dudes 🙏🏽❤️✌🏽

  • @nonombre7159
    @nonombre7159 2 месяца назад +8

    Im a fan of both bands. One thing about Extreme. All the members are still alive. There's room to like both.

    • @orvil9223
      @orvil9223 2 месяца назад +2

      If you're in th closet, sure, you can like Extreme.

    • @aarongarcia4381
      @aarongarcia4381 2 месяца назад +2

      gay metal

    • @PulverizerA
      @PulverizerA 24 дня назад

      Lots of douchebags are still alive, while lots of decent people have passed. That was your point, right?

    • @jigglyboo8787
      @jigglyboo8787 День назад

      @@orvil9223 ​ ah yes, the classic neanderthal who's scared to death of being seen as sentimental or emotional... what are you so insecure about, bud? Anyway, I'll let you get back to stuffing kids in lockers

  • @opinionmaximus
    @opinionmaximus 2 месяца назад +9

    Got to see AIC in a Ckarkston, MI (by Detroit) in June of ‘91. They were the opening act on the “Clash of the Titans” tour featuring Slayer, Anthrax and Megadeth and when I saw the amphitheater was 3/4 empty but DAMN I always think how lucky I was to see Layne and those guys early on. ❤ RIP Mr. Staley

    • @splurge0210
      @splurge0210 2 месяца назад +1

      Wow what a lineup

    • @opinionmaximus
      @opinionmaximus 2 месяца назад +1

      @@splurge0210 what’s even more amazing is I saw them in an amphitheater so I was about 30 rows back and it cost $26. It would probably be over $200 nowadays.

    • @wendysavvy4351
      @wendysavvy4351 Месяц назад +1

      That's really cool you were able to see AIC live!! I never did, even though I've been a fan since the late 90s. And for you to see them at a venue that was hardly crowded, wow a more intimate setting. And if your seat sucked, you could find another. I've done that before! More seats, more choices. 👍🏻

    • @opinionmaximus
      @opinionmaximus Месяц назад +1

      @@wendysavvy4351 👍🏻 They were so new I really didn’t appreciate them like I should’ve. I saw them at an amphitheater, we started off in row OO and made it down to row J. 😉🤫😈

    • @wendysavvy4351
      @wendysavvy4351 Месяц назад +1

      @@opinionmaximus Oh, I understand. But at least you have the story to tell, and scored the better seats! I once had the 7th row, from the stage when I saw Gwen Stefani in concert!! On her 1st solo tour. Although, No Doubt was great together. And saw them, 1x. But worse seats. 👎🏻

  • @augustjohnnycrashed
    @augustjohnnycrashed 2 месяца назад +7

    We did a couple shows with them when they first came to LA, they opened for my band Johnny Crash, i was an instant fan! One show I just got out of rehab and they offered to do acid with me, I had to walk away, 😂

    • @michaellazor5667
      @michaellazor5667 8 часов назад

      I remember Johnny Crash. You guys were a great band.

  • @adamturner1563
    @adamturner1563 3 месяца назад +28

    We wont tour with trickster or Nelson - Layne Staley

    • @MonaJ888
      @MonaJ888 3 месяца назад +8

      Layne said that too 😂🤣😂😂

    • @adamturner1563
      @adamturner1563 3 месяца назад +5

      🤗🤣🤣🤣☝🏼. Oh yeahhhhhh

  • @hollymccormack4081
    @hollymccormack4081 3 месяца назад +51

    That's a shame that Extreme were difficult on that early tour, and honestly Extreme wasn't a big enough band to be jerks at the time. That is absolutely a strange touring combination. One thing to point out though - at :45 you mention their manager Susan Silver and show a picture of them with a woman who actually is not Susan Silver. That's Cathy Faulkner from Seattle rock radio station KISW, who the band has known since the beginning.

    • @Godloveszaza
      @Godloveszaza 3 месяца назад +4

      Womp womp.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад +1

      nice catch

    • @noahb5019
      @noahb5019 2 месяца назад +1

      With very rare exception, I've found that ego is always in inverse proportion to talent, competence, and success. Case in point, the title of this video is not "Extreme HATED Touring with This Band".

    • @williamjamesayers7719
      @williamjamesayers7719 2 месяца назад +1

      Kingdom come did the same thing. They were on their first tour, with scorpions, dokken, Metallica and van Halen headlining the monsters of rock. Kingdom come said they were too good to be there. And this was KC's debut tour with that kind of arrogance.

    • @memyselfundeye
      @memyselfundeye 2 месяца назад +1

      @@williamjamesayers7719haha, I remember that tour. Kingdom Clone was gone by the time it rolled into Giants Stadium so another band just starting out took their place. Maybe you folks have heard of them. It was Guns and Flowers or Roses and Pistols or something like that? 😁
      They actually filmed their Paradise City video at that show.

  • @mikebrasic3272
    @mikebrasic3272 2 месяца назад +1

    I saw this tour when it stopped at the ritz in Detroit. Both bands were fantastic! Whatever went on behind the curtain was not noticed out front!!!!

  • @-GRAVESITE-
    @-GRAVESITE- 3 месяца назад +3

    Whoa. Not the face I pictured when hearing your voice. Been subbed since the beginning

    • @kevinfinnegan310
      @kevinfinnegan310 2 месяца назад

      We thought he was older ..skinnier and dorkier... Still love the content... And I'm impressed with music geek

    • @-GRAVESITE-
      @-GRAVESITE- 2 месяца назад +1

      @@kevinfinnegan310 Exactly. Long hair too lol

    • @billydeewilliams9104
      @billydeewilliams9104 2 месяца назад

      Same. I imagined him as more of a 'Rocky' from Mask...

  • @allanvanuga9196
    @allanvanuga9196 2 месяца назад

    Great video.

  • @c.a.k.comedy692
    @c.a.k.comedy692 3 месяца назад +17

    Man I love Extreme and Alice In Chains but I wouldn’t have expected any hostility between the bands

    • @DonnyOsmosis
      @DonnyOsmosis 3 месяца назад +2

      I was a bit surprised the first time I read that also (in the AIC book, I think). I get it, though. AIC had to prove themselves on those first tours.

  • @smandez2023
    @smandez2023 2 месяца назад +4

    Cantrell is by far my favorite guitarist from the grunge scene, but I sure hope he wasn’t the dude that said Extreme couldn’t play guitars. I get it, the grunge boys never liked the whole guitar shredder virtuoso vibe, but Nuno’s work on Pornograffiti is phenomenal, untouchable, and there isn’t nothing pretentious about it.

    • @dragons_red
      @dragons_red 2 месяца назад

      Exactly. Sounds like there was a bunch of young male ego/immaturity to go around in both bands, hell that applies to almost all bands.
      It's just shit-talk

    • @tiagopt
      @tiagopt Месяц назад

      Rewatch the video, they didn't say that about the band, but about their fans... smh

  • @infinidominion
    @infinidominion 2 месяца назад +3

    As a kid in the 90's, I hated extreme so much because it was such unfitting name and being dragged around having to hear that crap on the radio was torture. Even as a 7 year old, I could see through that shit 😂

    • @dashiellsisson9263
      @dashiellsisson9263 Месяц назад

      You know nothing about that guitar player my friend…

    • @OldMort
      @OldMort Месяц назад

      I always sat through the extreme to get to the nuno. He’s the only part I like, but he’s pretty exceptional

  • @Wayne-le3gy
    @Wayne-le3gy 3 месяца назад +2

    Id be insecure too early Alice opening for my band too. Layne was an untouchable vocalist at this point and their music had substance.

  • @duchess_of_petty9323
    @duchess_of_petty9323 3 месяца назад +2

    Saw AIC tour with Ozzy. Amazing show

  • @ktothec24
    @ktothec24 3 месяца назад +6

    That wasn’t Susan silver in that pic

  • @sstaners1234
    @sstaners1234 3 месяца назад +44

    I can’t imagine following Man In The Box, Sea of Sorrow, or It Ain’t Like That with More Than Words.

    • @mickeyjohn2442
      @mickeyjohn2442 3 месяца назад

      Obviously you haven't listened to their music (Extreme)...If you had, you would realize how moronic your comment is...Also, Nuno has more talent than all of the band members of Alice in Chains combined.

    • @jamesnorton7601
      @jamesnorton7601 3 месяца назад +11

      Love Chains, but Extreme is outrageously good

    • @Metallizombie
      @Metallizombie 3 месяца назад +17

      Extreme is a lot heavier than more than words. They basically sounded like Van Halen.

    • @thoin1
      @thoin1 2 месяца назад +6

      anybody who rates Extreme off more than words needs to sit down and listen to the whole pornograffiti album, stellar, and i live AIC

    • @jigglyboo8787
      @jigglyboo8787 День назад

      @@thoin1 and More than Words is one of the greatest songs of all time, eat my nuts, it's essentially an Everly Bros. tune...some of these neanderthal, close minded, still stuck in jr high metal meat heads..I swear

  • @woody2669
    @woody2669 3 месяца назад +3

    saw them with extreme at Hammerjacks in 1990

  • @matthewwilton7778
    @matthewwilton7778 2 месяца назад

    Cool vid

  • @MichaelKerr71
    @MichaelKerr71 3 месяца назад +23

    Honestly, I never did like Extreme. I don't hate them or anything on that level, but I always thought they were very cheesy. But to each their own.

    • @dsaltlife2925
      @dsaltlife2925 3 месяца назад +4

      Same here

    • @travisspaulding2222
      @travisspaulding2222 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, by all metrics, I should love Extreme, but I don't. I don't hate them, but every time I try to check out an album of there's to see what all the fuss is about, I just can't get through it. There will be like, 5 good songs, and the rest are lame. I just can't do it, lol.

    • @CommercialSuicideMusic
      @CommercialSuicideMusic 2 месяца назад

      There videos are cheesy as hell, and Gary Cherone is kinda feminine. But the dude can sing his ass off and if you listen to his lyrics, theres no cheese at all. Somgs like Peacemaker Die, Evilangelist, Rest in Peace are not cheesy in the slightest. Gary Cherone may prance onstage, but sometimes his subject matter is very dark.

    • @jeffreyhanc1711
      @jeffreyhanc1711 2 месяца назад +3

      Rick Beatto had a good extended interview with Nuno relatively recently The guy is objectively an excellent guitarist and musician. That said, I never liked their sensitive variant of hair metal either. AIC on the other hand made some of the deepest and soul-jarring stuff ever.

    • @dragons_red
      @dragons_red 2 месяца назад

      As a big fan and guitar player who grew up with Nuno as one of my heros, their debut album is borderline cringe in terms of songs and lyrics, with the exception of one or 2 songs.
      Second album, Pornographitti, is phenomenal, Extreme III was even more mature and loved by hardcore fans although not hitting me on the vibes as well. One of their more recent releases, Saudes de Rock, I think is incredible.
      Having said all that, I can see that Cherone's voice tone and singing style (and lyrics in their youngs days) can be a major turn off for lots of people, even if they like the music underneath.

  • @scruzme13
    @scruzme13 2 месяца назад +1

    I wanted to see AIC so bad in 1990 that I went to this lineup in SF. and AIC didnt disappoint and it changed this 19 yr old kid forever. I could barely stomach the rest of the show that night after AIC. I can still see Layne standing in one spot and whipping his dreadlocks the whole set non stop. In 1990 they didnt know what to do with bands like AIC. (ex Soundgarden opening for GnR was weird too)

  • @ddm62571
    @ddm62571 2 месяца назад

    Wow! Why did AIC get stuck openning for Extreme?

  • @luigivincenz3843
    @luigivincenz3843 3 месяца назад +2

    Saw them a few times. Lollapalooza and with Megadeth early 90's. One was with Ozzy. I kinda remember them playing Would' on the Ozzy show before the video came out on MTV, and it blew up the place. Good thing I didnt waste my money on Extreme back then lol.

  • @robpaxson4455
    @robpaxson4455 3 месяца назад

    Saw that show in Boston in the fall of 1990, had never heard of the opener… found out years later that it was AIC, not happy

  • @eckteckteckk171
    @eckteckteckk171 3 месяца назад

    "We wanted to be extreme,not the band but a hard hitting thing'

  • @Randomcomicsfrommyspinne-xt5kq
    @Randomcomicsfrommyspinne-xt5kq Месяц назад

    In 1991, in Atlanta, Alice in Chains opened up for Van Halen. Most of the people were there to see AIC and left before the corny, safe version of VH hit the stage.

  • @mkp3824
    @mkp3824 2 месяца назад +1

    I tried to watch a live video of Gary Cherone singing with Van Halen once. He was singing in his bare feet! Lol! How cheesy? I go barefoot at home. I'd love to go barefoot everywhere, but that's not feasible, especially on stage! I never liked Extreme. I don't know how Van Halen picked him over anyone. The idea that Alice in Chains opened for Extreme is mind boggling now. I can't think of one of their songs except for that terrible ballad. I'm glad the video didn't say they hated playing with Van Halen. I saw them open for Van Halen and many of those older fans of theirs had no appreciation for Alice in Chains. I loved the show.

  • @shcaskey
    @shcaskey Месяц назад

    " a few beers"?!?!

  • @jamesstoudt3289
    @jamesstoudt3289 3 месяца назад +23

    Extreme should have been opening for Alice in Chains.

    • @Pamplemousse82223
      @Pamplemousse82223 3 месяца назад +1

      Nope. Extreme had a hit record.

    • @dragons_red
      @dragons_red 2 месяца назад

      AIC was only known in Seattle at the time, Extreme had a hit record with at least 3 top charting hits at the time

  • @eddieds312
    @eddieds312 Месяц назад

    Reminds me of when Hootie and the blowfish opened
    up for Red Hot Chillie peppers

  • @greenchie2
    @greenchie2 3 месяца назад

    You say they opened for Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayey? wasn"t that on the clash of the titans tour, where they all toured together, with AIC as the opener? We went to the Baltimore show, Megadeth did a signing that day in Rockville MD. AIC got booed off after 4 songs, wrong crowd for them.

    • @CommercialSuicideMusic
      @CommercialSuicideMusic 2 месяца назад

      Down in Houston on that same toured they werent booed off at all. David Ellefson gave them mad props on stage saying they were blown away since they first heard them and were thrilled to have them on the tour. Of course they hadnt wrote Dirt yet. Nobody would boo them after that masterpiece.

  • @dannyhatesdallas9322
    @dannyhatesdallas9322 3 месяца назад +7

    I love AIC even more now! 😁 Kudos for big FU to Extreme on that last show.

  • @charliemackenzie2485
    @charliemackenzie2485 2 месяца назад

    Recommended I guess cause I had facelift on on my way home. Decades later I love it just as much as the day I first heard it.

  • @jgeraci1
    @jgeraci1 3 месяца назад +3

    Saw them with Extreme at Toads place in New Haven

    • @vincents9620
      @vincents9620 Месяц назад

      Toads NH Ct🤘🤘🤘my hometown

  • @MaCNuTz-tu8ot
    @MaCNuTz-tu8ot 3 месяца назад +81

    Sounds like they were an EXTREMEly crappy band to tour with

  • @puppetmaster8551
    @puppetmaster8551 2 месяца назад

    I honestly thought this was gonna be about Jerry touring with creed and nickelback lol, Jerry said he didn’t like touring with creed but said the nickelback guys were actually cool, nickelback even brought him on stage to cover it ain’t like that together and it was a surprisingly good cover. I assume Stapp was the reason Jerry didn’t like touring with creed because he’s friends with tremonti but who knows they could’ve happened down the line after the tour

  • @bassadelica
    @bassadelica 2 месяца назад +1

    What a weird changing of the guard period, AIC was too metal for alt and too alt for metal, grunge didn’t exist yet, Extreme were too pop for metal and too metal for pop, they had no idea hair metal would be extinct within a year.

  • @tommurphy5199
    @tommurphy5199 21 день назад

    I saw Extreme and Alice in Chains at the Cat Club in NYC Sept 1990....

  • @brettsanders616
    @brettsanders616 3 месяца назад +1

    Saw alice in chains open for kiss in 96

  • @dannybursace9151
    @dannybursace9151 3 месяца назад +1

    Great vid…how about Monster Magnet! Or the band Dig!!

  • @johncat5456
    @johncat5456 2 месяца назад

    hey former security/ stage hand here can you do a story about band riders i know some are hide behind nda type rules thanks also maybe a lovely band called gwar

  • @dominysynclair
    @dominysynclair 3 месяца назад +12

    AIC > Extreme

  • @Maynardd
    @Maynardd 2 месяца назад +2

    Extreme? I would see this as the equivalent of Metallica touring with Whitney Houston.

  • @raytewell7067
    @raytewell7067 Месяц назад

    Extreme sounded like a couple of hound dogs.

  • @jacobkubacki2719
    @jacobkubacki2719 2 месяца назад

    I felt bad for em at The Clash of the Titans tour. They got the last laugh though.

  • @user-pn8qw9zo8j
    @user-pn8qw9zo8j 2 месяца назад

    Its like slayer opening for backstreet boys

  • @3ngi_n33r
    @3ngi_n33r Месяц назад

    Saw aic on the clash of the titans tour when I was a wee lad. I think slayer was headlining.

  • @Another_Broke_Musician
    @Another_Broke_Musician 2 месяца назад

    I saw this tour in Memphis. "More Than Words" had just taken off. The venue was small. Most of the crowd came late. Most of the people that did come early were not digging AIC. Not rude, just non-responsive. At one point Layne said "This place is dead as fuck." But my drummer and I were blown away. This was the first we'd heard of the Seattle sound. They were tight and powerful. We were also entertained by a two kid mosh pit on an empty floor. People should have paid attention. Two years later on the Dirt tour AIC was opening for Van Halen. The 20,000 seat arena was sold out. Jerry missed his flight. A sacrificial local band filled in and caught hell. But AIC scheduled a make-up show, playing the 20,000 seat arena. I could be wrong but I think it was sold out.

  • @chopperocker
    @chopperocker 3 месяца назад +2

    a band that lost two members to drug addiction while the remaining members are in recovery at one time "HATED" something. i think AIC and Extreme are both very good bands but now I'm traumatized that they're lives once intersected. 😢 wouldnt it be cool if their was only one ultra cool product to consume and it was produced by AI with the bias of the program writer.

  • @FURTHER_ADO
    @FURTHER_ADO 2 месяца назад

    The more my guy's neck eats his chin his heads grows bigger

  • @matthewramey5677
    @matthewramey5677 3 месяца назад +22

    Nirvana made fun of extreme on live tonight sold out for being dickd to them on tour too

    • @retiredsuperstar7780
      @retiredsuperstar7780 3 месяца назад +5

      Nirvana had a dig because they thought they were “corporate rock” before they themselves turned into a corporate rock band

  • @jasvav1
    @jasvav1 Месяц назад

    Man, I saw Pantera open for Skid Row in Sacramento just after Vulgar had come out. Strange pairing. I would love to know how that tour went. Pantera wrapped their set, me and my buddy were leaving and the usher says, once you leave you can't come back! We started laughing and said, that's the point!

  • @seaninness334
    @seaninness334 3 месяца назад +3

    Love this video. More Than Words is a horrible ear worm.

  • @GoddessLadyRei
    @GoddessLadyRei 3 месяца назад +3

    This made me cry. How dare they treat the greatest singer of our time like this.

  • @markshirley7773
    @markshirley7773 2 месяца назад

    Most headliners will not allow opening bands to use lighting and usually treat them horribly. Back in the late 70s? We went to 👀 38 speshul and point blank with an opening band nobody in America had heard about!? Iron maiden stole that show with the number of the beast tour!!! I love y'all

  • @nworbrelytthefirst
    @nworbrelytthefirst 3 месяца назад +1

    Devil's advocate, but he did say "earlier in thr tour" about Starr yaking on the kit. And I get it. They weren't allowed to drink on stage, so they had to get twice as fucked up before hand. Perhaps this is exactly the thing more than words immediately assumed they might do.

    • @billydeewilliams9104
      @billydeewilliams9104 2 месяца назад

      Vomit is more than words. More than Words is vomit inducing.

  • @gathrightcrystal
    @gathrightcrystal Месяц назад

    Did these six people susan added get the same royalties as AIC because i witnessed Mike and Layne not get paid by Susan and crew while Susan is in camera in the bathroom like Hunter

  • @gmac2558
    @gmac2558 3 месяца назад

    Ned "The Bull" Ryerson

  • @crushsatan
    @crushsatan 2 месяца назад

    So glad people are doing videos with their real voices instead of A.I. all the time.

  • @jayrough3383
    @jayrough3383 3 месяца назад +8

    I wouldn’t exactly call nuno a wannabe guitar player

    • @nicholaskruger9460
      @nicholaskruger9460 Месяц назад

      He didnt. say that. He said the audience was made up of those for extreme

  • @ikd3240
    @ikd3240 3 месяца назад +23

    Not only is the pairing of Extreme and Alice In Chains odd, but for them (Extreme) to think that they were a big deal before their hit song is laughable. Even more laughable is that years later, so many more people remember Alice In Chains than they do Extreme.

    • @Fiveash-Art
      @Fiveash-Art 3 месяца назад +3

      I remember being in 8th grade and liking that song they did on the Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure soundtrack 'Play with Me'. 😂 Yeah, Extreme is cheesy guitar hero type stuff.. But they were catchy. The hair metal was still big at that time.

    • @CommercialSuicideMusic
      @CommercialSuicideMusic 2 месяца назад

      That depends on what you remember. Nuno is the best guitar player that ever lived and really that what Extreme is remembered for.

  • @Fuxerz
    @Fuxerz 2 месяца назад

    I Just saw Alice and chains with Guns & Roses they were fantastic. Saw them in Phoenix couple months back. They were incredibly great.

  • @jeremywanner4526
    @jeremywanner4526 3 месяца назад +7

    Smack makes you puke on drums as well.

    • @RockNRollTrueStories2
      @RockNRollTrueStories2  3 месяца назад +3

      It could have been that but it was said in the interview he drank too much

    • @gottlicherhammer
      @gottlicherhammer 3 месяца назад +5

      @@RockNRollTrueStories2which is exactly what a smack addict would say

    • @daBEAGLE1017
      @daBEAGLE1017 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@RockNRollTrueStories2I also hear Mike didn't start using until 93. I believe his first was with Kurt Cobain and Layne is Brazil.
      I could be wrong.

    • @billydeewilliams9104
      @billydeewilliams9104 2 месяца назад

      @@daBEAGLE1017 S and N are so far apart on the keyboard, that I think YOU think Layne really is (was) Brazil.

    • @daBEAGLE1017
      @daBEAGLE1017 2 месяца назад

      @@billydeewilliams9104 hmmmmmmm....,..

  • @adamfindlay7091
    @adamfindlay7091 3 месяца назад

    Xtreme reminds me of a nice sweet choco brownie with like, too many freaking walnuts. Wtf.

  • @ErWo75
    @ErWo75 2 месяца назад

    Get the funk out!
    - Gary Cherone

  • @dashiellsisson9263
    @dashiellsisson9263 Месяц назад

    Oh man… one of my favorite bands and voices against one of my favorite rock guitarists… for everyone who is crapping on extreme, Nuno is the real deal… awesome player.

  • @andrewmachado6988
    @andrewmachado6988 3 месяца назад +1

    Nirvana didn’t like them either. I remember seeing an interview where they called Extreme “a total shlock rock band” and mentioned a story about their management demanding a clear path to their van awaiting for them or something along those lines.
    The interview is included in the Nirvana home video “live tonight sold out”.

  • @Bahamutdordi
    @Bahamutdordi 3 месяца назад +6

    Imma gonna call it. It's G'n'R

    • @Bahamutdordi
      @Bahamutdordi 3 месяца назад +4

      ...Damn it.

    • @bobthebear1246
      @bobthebear1246 3 месяца назад +1

      I was actually surprised that it wasn't.

    • @Re-Todd_Howard
      @Re-Todd_Howard 3 месяца назад +6

      I think Axl liked Alice In Chains actually.

    • @SilentProti
      @SilentProti 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Re-Todd_Howardhe also liked faith no more and I recall they had a bad time touring w gnr

    • @guitardedeffects9801
      @guitardedeffects9801 3 месяца назад

      If you listen to really early AIC demos and recordings, it seems that GNR was a massive influence. I’d bet it was a dream come true for them. Even if it sucked I doubt they saw it that way, at least at the time

  • @gathrightcrystal
    @gathrightcrystal Месяц назад

    So susan merged AIC and soundgarden after that whole screaming tree sub pop thing like i said 😎🍿

  • @chrischoir3594
    @chrischoir3594 2 месяца назад

    Extreme should have been opening for Alice and a middle band lol

  • @Afurthyclays
    @Afurthyclays 3 месяца назад +40

    Gary Cherone prancing around on stage barefooted is so “British word for cigarette”. 🙄

    • @seapupocean4799
      @seapupocean4799 3 месяца назад +1

      I miss the days when people weren’t afraid to say “fag” or “retarded”

    • @ZippyThePinhead
      @ZippyThePinhead 3 месяца назад +5

      Oh please tell us what that word is. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @rudyescobar7071
      @rudyescobar7071 2 месяца назад +4

      You or anybody ever seen Gary with a woman? 😅

    • @infinidominion
      @infinidominion 2 месяца назад +1

      A bundle of sticks?

    • @ZippyThePinhead
      @ZippyThePinhead 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@infinidominion Wasn't aware the word was the same for that, but yes. 😁 Well done.
      And even if he is, it doesn't take way from the music they've written, still good stuff.

  • @wisdomhunter3797
    @wisdomhunter3797 Месяц назад

    That is an odd pairing for sure! Maybe they were on the same label?

  • @matthewramey5677
    @matthewramey5677 3 месяца назад

    This is probably my favorite band including all of Cantrells solo stuff to and the chapter with William has been amazing. But if I hear man in the box on the radio again I'm loose my mind. Why does fm radio play man in the box so fuckin much ?? Jesus

  • @bradlcnm
    @bradlcnm 2 месяца назад

    I planned to see AIC in Albuquerque with Metallica et al but they didn't make it. 😢

  • @gl3605
    @gl3605 Месяц назад

    They don't call them "Massholes" for nothing. Plus I don't think there's any song that I don't turn off faster than "More Than Words".

  • @TravisBrady-wn8fr
    @TravisBrady-wn8fr 3 месяца назад +6

    Feed my eyes

  • @criskatan
    @criskatan 3 месяца назад +3

    Alice way outranks Extreme anyway.

  • @allaware1971
    @allaware1971 2 месяца назад

    I would have assumed it was mega deth, since Dave Mustains notorious beef with slayer made him seem hard to work with.

  • @PixelBrainMush
    @PixelBrainMush 2 месяца назад

    Gary had his day with Van Halen back when they were desperate enough to need a new singer. We know how that ended. RIP Van Halen's career.

  • @bstar777777
    @bstar777777 2 месяца назад

    I saw AIC during the Van Halen tour. They were good, but totally wrong crowd. No one was into them except for a small group of their fans. That was the awkward beginning of the transition to grunge. Can't believe how big they eventually got.

  • @clavd8932
    @clavd8932 2 месяца назад +5

    "Their music was cheesy and just like they were in person"
    Bro Staley and Starr died to drug addiction..... pot calling the kettle black

  • @dixirose111
    @dixirose111 3 месяца назад

    Haha some of the pranks were funny!