Brooo i bought this notebook used, last year and for general use taking notes and light gaming is sick. But all this time a haven´t noticed the second usb type-c that is right there, thank you so much man. sick video. Sorry for my english, it´s not my first lenguage.
splashproof keyboard on all thinkpads is an amazing feature we need to reference more often. especially when apple was out there offering laptops that have keyboards that break due to dust up to last year. i had the the bad lack to use that feature. the only thing that broke was the left mouse click on my e495, wihich i still haven't manage to use isopropol alcohol on it. still it had water on like 10 other keys and i had no issues nor i need to wait to resume work. since it is possible i feel every laptop keyboard should be at least at capable to withstand moisture. it is a really small investment for the company, but it improves the quality of life for many users expontially. also less wastes sinces i ddin't have to threw away neither the keyboard or in a worse case scenario the laptop.
Thanks and love your videos too! Already subscribed 👍 Yeah, shame about the non-GPU in the AMD model. Waiting on the X1 Fold to arrive, so excited to review it. 😍
@@Dovecomputers your videos are much better made than mine, I'm awaiting for both the Nano and Fold to be shipped to Australia my guess another month or so before that arrives to my shores. I think both will be so exciting to see!
the gen 2 will have radeon with 4gb dedicated, this is SO exciting as gpu passthrough (or whatever i’m not a native speaker lol) is going to be a thing!
Great review. Actually, I was looking for the T 14 with the AMD, so here we are shopping for a P14s, the T14 in disguise. Going with 32GB RAM in dual. Compared to the T14 Gen 2 with the MX450 it seems that the situation will be the same. Overall still slightly better performance at a better price point. the lack of a card reader is a bummer though.
Very helpful indeed! Just looking at this on offer from Lenovo, but I don't have time to decide before the offer ends. I'm not impetuous enough! Thanks
Appreciate the review. I looked at all the alternatives and here in Australia they all come with 250 nit displays (the t14 is only 6 cores), lower end CPUs, 16gb RAM soldered on, and more expensive, sometimes by over $1000. I got this machine for $1448 ($1125 usd) and I'll be happy with it. It's way better than my 4 year old HP x2 g2 which could never be upgraded past windows 1909 (2004 is officially unsupported). I don't need discrete graphics, I'm not a gamer. I only do work my smartphone can't handle and wanted a top performer for zoom calls and that microsd card reader is awesome for me to transfer stuff to/from phones easier. The gen 2 usb c port will be plenty to drive my 2x 1080p displays from a dock so I'm happy.
Hi there, I'm Australian but stuck in Spain - decent configuration and fair prices are hard to come by. Would you care to share your configuration? The P14s is one of the few I can order here with an international keyboard layout. Since I plan to come home and may eventually resell it, I'm curious to know if I'm being price gauged...
You think T14 vs T14s Which is a good consumption? I fell in love with the 14s, but I wonder if the difference in weight between 1.2kg and 1.47kg feels great. I wonder if the T14's dual heatpipes and additional ramslot ports have a big impact on actual performance.
I missed that opportunity to test this when I returned the P14s and a week later had the Lenovo pen in my hand! Sorry I looked around and can't find an answer for you.
Both excellent business premium laptops. The keyboard and display panel are the slight differences between the two. Watch my review on the EliteBook 845 G7 to decide. 👍
I'm currently using X395 (Ryzen 5 3500u pro). The device is good, so far... battery is a bit weak and the monitor is not bright enough when using internal battery. Is this the power management setting of AMD ?
Hello , Is it great for students who frequently runs virtual machine, visual studio, photoshop, Premiere Pro (32gb) ? or any other thinkpad model that can reccomend?
P14s should run great with those. You'll definitely to buy it configured with more than 8GB of RAM, or you can do like I did and buy the baseline model and upgrade the RAM yourself. Taking the backplate off was a bit of a pain in the ass, but that's because the backplate is firmly held in and is not flimsy like the backplate on most laptops. I forgot to tighten the screws back in after putting the backplate off and I didn't notice a difference at all (but I still put the screws back in after discovering this)! Once you pop off the backplate (don't forget to take the SIM card tray out beforehand), the single open RAM slot is easily accessible. You can also upgrade the NVME drive too on your own.
Processeur - AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U (1,70 GHz, Max Boost up to 4,10 GHz, 8 cores, 8 Mo of cache) OS - (Ubuntu or Fedora, idk yet) Total Memory - 32 Go DDR4 (16 Go + 16 Go SoDIMM) 3 200 MHz Solid State Drive - Disque SSD 1 To, M.2 2280, PCIe Gen3x4/Gen4x4-NVMe, OPAL 2, TLC Display - Full HD de 14,0" (1 920 x 1 080), IPS, 400 nits, NTSC 72 % Webcam - 720p and HD with microphone Wireless - Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2x2 AX, Bluetooth version 5.0 Réseau mobile / 4G - WWAN First Graphic Dongle - USB-C vers VGA TPM Setting - Compatible TPM2.0 discret Absolute BIOS Selection - BIOS Absolute activated Battery - 50 Wh Power Cord - PCC 65 W (3 broches) - UE (USB Type C)
Oh and morover, I m still waiting for my laptop.. I made the order on January 28th and the delivery should occurs 3 months later at the end of April....
Would this laptop be good for someone handling very heavy excels, big database files and requires many tabs open (10+) at the same time on his browser?! If not, what would you recommend?! Thank you very much in advance!
@@Dovecomputers thank you for the fast reply!!! Sadly its now out of stock on Lenovo's website and I cant find it elsewhere. I will either go for the XPS 13 with the 11th gen intel processor or the macbook pro with m1 and 16gb
1) 400 nits on the review model. 2) The P14s Intel version has discrete GPU (NVIDIA Quadro P520), with the P14s AMD, nothing is different with the T14 AMD, hence my comments.
Is the P14s' GPU annny better than the T14 AMD? Or... is the 250 nit display any better than the T14 250 nit display, as far as color accuracy? The 400 nit model would be either really expensive or delayed 5 weeks when ordering from Lenovo.
If you compare the P14s AMD model to the T14 AMD, its exactly the same CPU/GPU. The 250nits display on the P14s/T14 is poor both in brightness and colour accuracy. Worth the extra money IMO.
The ThinkPad P14s would be perfect for software development. The Yoga 7 is a great laptop but the ThinkPad P14s has arguably better build quality and keyboard.
I have this one. Happy all around, I am not satisfied with the "400 nits" display, still find it not bright enough, its probably 350max. Btw mine has an sd card reader.
Happy that manufacturers are moving away (slowly) from rubbish 250 nits panels to 400 nits displays. Lenovo do have options for 600 nits screens on some of their models but you will be paying for it in money and battery life.
@@Dovecomputers I concur! It matches the performance of the Ryzen 7 2700 in my desktop while drawing less power and running cooler. I bought the P14s solely for the processor.
If you have the P14s (or T14) gen 1 then yes, you'll need a B+M key for the drive tho which might be hard to find. Just search up your question on google and there should be a Reddit thread about it
@@Kacicka999 P14s is definitely the better option compared to the T14s. The ability to upgrade the RAM is crucial for long term viability and for not having to pay the Lenovo tax just to have more RAM. I put a 16GB stick of RAM in my P14s for less than a third of what Lenovo would have charged.
should I go for the thinkpad P14s or the T14 (amd ryzen 7) as the P14s is a bit more cheaper compared to T14? also which has a better cooling solution and has longer battery life?
@@Dovecomputers I eventually went for the thinkpad P14s AMD ryzen 7, ,it was cheaper than T14 and its been 1 month since ordered, supposed to come next month hopefully
@@Dovecomputers one small question: is there an issue with the colors on the P14s? Because the blacks and blues seem a bit too dark. (I found out I am using the LG Phillips panel)
@@Dovecomputers Another tip for AMD GPU users is to always make sure to enable hadware encoding if you're going to be using Adobe Premier pro for video work.
Loved mine till it started giving me charging issues. It randomly stops charging, and I'm ready to take a bat to it and never buy anything from Lenovo again.
This is still the "gen 1" version, it's been out since before the 5000 series was announced. Presumably the next gen 2 version will have the new 5000 series CPUs, but who knows when that will come out
I could be wrong, but I'm not sure Lenovo is going to make another AMD version. The 11th Gen Intel is probably considered on par (or close enough), it has thunderbolt, and they may not see a reason to make dual versions. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the wind is blowing that way.
While I do agree that a GPU would be nice, the P520 & T500 aren't any better than the Vega 7 graphics. All that adding a GPU (of that variety) would do is decrease battery life & increase thermals
Totally agree, it's a balance between performance and battery life/thermals. That's why manufacturers like Lenovo and HP have this new category of mobile workstations with 'low end' GPU's. Not quite convinced. As you say, are they any better than the integrated GPU models?
@@Dovecomputers According to NotebookCheck, the integrated Vega 7 graphics are slighter faster on average than both the P500 & P520. Neither are crazy powerful...I suppose if you need a good GPU, the Legion laptops are an option Still strange that they don't have a higher-end GPU option outside of the gaming laptops, unless you want a dumpy Intel CPU
Brooo i bought this notebook used, last year and for general use taking notes and light gaming is sick. But all this time a haven´t noticed the second usb type-c that is right there, thank you so much man. sick video.
Sorry for my english, it´s not my first lenguage.
This is basically ultimate anti-mac laptop & I like it 😂
I feel like I’m watching animal planet but for thinkpads. This dudes voice is so familiar. Swear this dude must work for natural geographic
🤣🤣🤣 If only! 🤣🤣🤣
Lol😂
😂❤
splashproof keyboard on all thinkpads is an amazing feature we need to reference more often. especially when apple was out there offering laptops that have keyboards that break due to dust up to last year. i had the the bad lack to use that feature. the only thing that broke was the left mouse click on my e495, wihich i still haven't manage to use isopropol alcohol on it. still it had water on like 10 other keys and i had no issues nor i need to wait to resume work. since it is possible i feel every laptop keyboard should be at least at capable to withstand moisture. it is a really small investment for the company, but it improves the quality of life for many users expontially. also less wastes sinces i ddin't have to threw away neither the keyboard or in a worse case scenario the laptop.
Dang I just picked up one of these on sale, a year after this review, with 40GB of ECC memory, for just $730!
Great review mate! ThinkPad keyboard still ranks the best, I also would have love to see a discrete GPU in the AMD version.
Thanks and love your videos too! Already subscribed 👍 Yeah, shame about the non-GPU in the AMD model. Waiting on the X1 Fold to arrive, so excited to review it. 😍
@@Dovecomputers your videos are much better made than mine, I'm awaiting for both the Nano and Fold to be shipped to Australia my guess another month or so before that arrives to my shores. I think both will be so exciting to see!
the gen 2 will have radeon with 4gb dedicated, this is SO exciting as gpu passthrough (or whatever i’m not a native speaker lol) is going to be a thing!
Great review. Actually, I was looking for the T 14 with the AMD, so here we are shopping for a P14s, the T14 in disguise. Going with 32GB RAM in dual. Compared to the T14 Gen 2 with the MX450 it seems that the situation will be the same. Overall still slightly better performance at a better price point. the lack of a card reader is a bummer though.
Great review! And thanks so much.
The view of the internals is NOT from the AMD unit as it shows a dGPU and soldered WiFi, which implies this is the Intel model's internals.
Very helpful indeed! Just looking at this on offer from Lenovo, but I don't have time to decide before the offer ends. I'm not impetuous enough! Thanks
Perfect timing... just got one!
Glad to hear it 👍
How long did it took to order?
How is the speaker quality on it. I have a t530 and it has horrible speakers that I can’t even use for meetings.
Appreciate the review. I looked at all the alternatives and here in Australia they all come with 250 nit displays (the t14 is only 6 cores), lower end CPUs, 16gb RAM soldered on, and more expensive, sometimes by over $1000. I got this machine for $1448 ($1125 usd) and I'll be happy with it. It's way better than my 4 year old HP x2 g2 which could never be upgraded past windows 1909 (2004 is officially unsupported). I don't need discrete graphics, I'm not a gamer. I only do work my smartphone can't handle and wanted a top performer for zoom calls and that microsd card reader is awesome for me to transfer stuff to/from phones easier. The gen 2 usb c port will be plenty to drive my 2x 1080p displays from a dock so I'm happy.
Hi there, I'm Australian but stuck in Spain - decent configuration and fair prices are hard to come by. Would you care to share your configuration? The P14s is one of the few I can order here with an international keyboard layout. Since I plan to come home and may eventually resell it, I'm curious to know if I'm being price gauged...
I just ordered a P14s in Australia with the 400 nit display.
There is an SD card reader, it is available for all models.
No, it's micro SD
@@AABB-kh9eb just buy a USB to card reader dock. it;s easy
Review is perferct, I was just wondering how much fps it can deliver in among us
Over 8
Among us doesn't need a powerful computer, it can run it smoothly
The Ryzen variant is like the T14. It doesn't have any dedicated graphic cards....The intel variant of P14s has an Nvidia Quadro with 4GB VRam.
Don't touch it. It has serious S3 battery drain issues (check the Lenovo forum), which Lenovo are refusing to fix
You think
T14 vs T14s Which is a good consumption?
I fell in love with the 14s, but I wonder if the difference in weight between 1.2kg and 1.47kg feels great.
I wonder if the T14's dual heatpipes and additional ramslot ports have a big impact on actual performance.
Not much difference from what I've heard. Just be prepared to max out the memory on the 14s because you can't upgrade.
got a 4750u version p14s today for 747cad today. happy
That's a bargain!
Great price! 👍
where did you buy it from?
I'm really impressed! I thought I was doing good when I bought my P14s for $870.
Fantastic review.
I am considering the P14s for private use.
Thanks. The P14s will definitely be a good buy for personal use. Lenovo usually have deals all the time. 👍
So the chassis is that of t14, not t14s?
Hi, do you suggest this instead of P14s Intel Gen 2 ? good enough for editing video ? (GoPro)..thank you
Thank you for the review, really helpful. Only one question: does this model, with the touch display, support the lenovo pen?
I missed that opportunity to test this when I returned the P14s and a week later had the Lenovo pen in my hand! Sorry I looked around and can't find an answer for you.
Great review , Which do you suggest between this model and HP elitebook 845 g7 ?
Both excellent business premium laptops. The keyboard and display panel are the slight differences between the two. Watch my review on the EliteBook 845 G7 to decide. 👍
Is it possible to run virtual machines for testing on Lenovo p14s AMD? Any recommendations?
yes
I'm currently using X395 (Ryzen 5 3500u pro). The device is good, so far... battery is a bit weak and the monitor is not bright enough when using internal battery. Is this the power management setting of AMD ?
How is possible someone to work on 14"? How much space you lack in order not to cover 16" chasis?
Hello , Is it great for students who frequently runs virtual machine, visual studio, photoshop, Premiere Pro (32gb) ? or any other thinkpad model that can reccomend?
P14s should run great with those. You'll definitely to buy it configured with more than 8GB of RAM, or you can do like I did and buy the baseline model and upgrade the RAM yourself. Taking the backplate off was a bit of a pain in the ass, but that's because the backplate is firmly held in and is not flimsy like the backplate on most laptops. I forgot to tighten the screws back in after putting the backplate off and I didn't notice a difference at all (but I still put the screws back in after discovering this)! Once you pop off the backplate (don't forget to take the SIM card tray out beforehand), the single open RAM slot is easily accessible. You can also upgrade the NVME drive too on your own.
@@comicsans1689 Thank you, I am still considering between this and the T14S, i think P14s would be better due to more RAM.
Excellent review, it set me up to buy the 16GB version :) Can you advise additional 16GB memory please?
Thanks. Nowadays, 16GB is the minimum for multiple web tabs, Teams/Zoom, etc. If you are a power user, I would upgrade to 32GB. 👍
@@Dovecomputers yeah, I want to upgrade and may be you can advise me the model of memory to buy. I mean manufacture, speed, etc.
@@tapanotbind get 3200mhz ddr4 SODIMM, samsung and crucial are the most used in laptops
Processeur - AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U (1,70 GHz, Max Boost up to 4,10 GHz, 8 cores, 8 Mo of cache)
OS - (Ubuntu or Fedora, idk yet)
Total Memory - 32 Go DDR4 (16 Go + 16 Go SoDIMM) 3 200 MHz
Solid State Drive - Disque SSD 1 To, M.2 2280, PCIe Gen3x4/Gen4x4-NVMe, OPAL 2, TLC
Display - Full HD de 14,0" (1 920 x 1 080), IPS, 400 nits, NTSC 72 %
Webcam - 720p and HD with microphone
Wireless - Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2x2 AX, Bluetooth version 5.0
Réseau mobile / 4G - WWAN
First Graphic Dongle - USB-C vers VGA
TPM Setting - Compatible TPM2.0 discret
Absolute BIOS Selection - BIOS Absolute activated
Battery - 50 Wh
Power Cord - PCC 65 W (3 broches) - UE (USB Type C)
price?
@@mfdez920 980 euros VAT :D
@@matthieu9303 That's really cheap for that configuration!
@@comicsans1689 I know right ! I must say I used the 20% studentbeans discount and without win10 I saved around 100euros
Oh and morover, I m still waiting for my laptop.. I made the order on January 28th and the delivery should occurs 3 months later at the end of April....
Would this laptop be good for someone handling very heavy excels, big database files and requires many tabs open (10+) at the same time on his browser?!
If not, what would you recommend?! Thank you very much in advance!
It would be perfect for these tasks. Get at least 16GB memory if you can. (32GB recommended) 👍
@@Dovecomputers thank you for the fast reply!!! Sadly its now out of stock on Lenovo's website and I cant find it elsewhere. I will either go for the XPS 13 with the 11th gen intel processor or the macbook pro with m1 and 16gb
The display looks 16:9, can you confirm that?
how's the touchpad? Any improvements compared to the older versions? I heard the ThinkPad ones cannot stand compared to others (e.g. Dell touchpad)
I think it's fine, but real men use the pointing stick.
1. whats ur screen nits? 250? or 400? 2. what is the difference with T14 Amd? thanks
1) 400 nits on the review model. 2) The P14s Intel version has discrete GPU (NVIDIA Quadro P520), with the P14s AMD, nothing is different with the T14 AMD, hence my comments.
@@Dovecomputers thx
@@Dovecomputers I believe the cooling solution in the T14 is a more substantial, 2 fan setup..?
@@chrisandrew_tv It's a single fan. The ThinkPad P15 has dual fans.
Did you test WWAN under Linuxmint? Does it actually work, especially after wakeup from suspend?
Sorry no, only the OS which has official drivers from Lenovo.
Thinkpad L14 AMD is with same processor..
What is your view about the L series laptop.. will it be worth it?
Depends if you need Thunderbolt 4 ports, dedicated GPU's and better screen options with the P series.
Is the P14s' GPU annny better than the T14 AMD? Or... is the 250 nit display any better than the T14 250 nit display, as far as color accuracy?
The 400 nit model would be either really expensive or delayed 5 weeks when ordering from Lenovo.
If you compare the P14s AMD model to the T14 AMD, its exactly the same CPU/GPU. The 250nits display on the P14s/T14 is poor both in brightness and colour accuracy. Worth the extra money IMO.
Do you think this laptop is good for a student in software engineering or do you think a lenovo yoga 7 amd will be better
The ThinkPad P14s would be perfect for software development. The Yoga 7 is a great laptop but the ThinkPad P14s has arguably better build quality and keyboard.
I have this one. Happy all around, I am not satisfied with the "400 nits" display, still find it not bright enough, its probably 350max. Btw mine has an sd card reader.
Happy that manufacturers are moving away (slowly) from rubbish 250 nits panels to 400 nits displays. Lenovo do have options for 600 nits screens on some of their models but you will be paying for it in money and battery life.
Is it possible that they provide an sd card reader if you don´t request the smart card reader?
8146 pts on multicore is actually pretty good isnt it ?
CPU wise, the AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U is awesome.
@@Dovecomputers I concur! It matches the performance of the Ryzen 7 2700 in my desktop while drawing less power and running cooler. I bought the P14s solely for the processor.
How T14 performs for CAD work?
Comparing it to Dell 3560? like $3000 ? Why not another Dell ....something with 11th gen cpu like 1135G7 ?
The Dell Precision 3560 in the UK is priced at just over £1K and uses an i5-1135G7. Hence the comparison.
@@Dovecomputers In Canada it's $3200 (1800 pounds) but comparing it to 11th generation intel would be good.
is it possible to use 2nd ssd on WWAN slot?
If you have the P14s (or T14) gen 1 then yes, you'll need a B+M key for the drive tho which might be hard to find. Just search up your question on google and there should be a Reddit thread about it
Hi can i know if the internal battery is upgradable?
I can't think of any modern laptop with replaceable battery.
@@xpusostomos x270. T480....so many Thinkpad models have hot swappable batteries
can it run after effects, it having an integrated GPU..
P14s vs T14s ?(both amd 4750u)
T14s is slightly slimmer than the P14s chassis. Plus the T14s only has soldered on memory. Hence the direct comparison to the T14.
@@Dovecomputers P14s is also cheaper, so its better option than ?
@@Kacicka999 P14s is definitely the better option compared to the T14s. The ability to upgrade the RAM is crucial for long term viability and for not having to pay the Lenovo tax just to have more RAM. I put a 16GB stick of RAM in my P14s for less than a third of what Lenovo would have charged.
Does Lenovo allow higher TDP for 4750U in P14s in comparison to T14?
Same from my experience. No difference or better thermal management.
The P14s is literally the T14 but with the Ryzen 7 as its only processor option.
I just ordered a 4850u in the p14s for around 1500 Australian dollars...bargain
should I go for the thinkpad P14s or the T14 (amd ryzen 7) as the P14s is a bit more cheaper compared to T14? also which has a better cooling solution and has longer battery life?
Nothing between the two, go for the cheaper option.
@@Dovecomputers I eventually went for the thinkpad P14s AMD ryzen 7, ,it was cheaper than T14 and its been 1 month since ordered, supposed to come next month hopefully
@@Dovecomputers one small question: is there an issue with the colors on the P14s? Because the blacks and blues seem a bit too dark. (I found out I am using the LG Phillips panel)
Just give it a 16:10 or 3:2 display ratio and I will get it for sure!
Is on there website gen3 with 16:10 I was waiting for that
Is it good for editing
I use da vinchi resolve
No problem with 1080P video clips, will struggle (or take longer to encode) with 4K clips.
@@Dovecomputers Another tip for AMD GPU users is to always make sure to enable hadware encoding if you're going to be using Adobe Premier pro for video work.
Loved mine till it started giving me charging issues. It randomly stops charging, and I'm ready to take a bat to it and never buy anything from Lenovo again.
2021 why not 5000series AMD?
CPU shortages, TSMC can't make them fast enough.
This is still the "gen 1" version, it's been out since before the 5000 series was announced. Presumably the next gen 2 version will have the new 5000 series CPUs, but who knows when that will come out
I could be wrong, but I'm not sure Lenovo is going to make another AMD version. The 11th Gen Intel is probably considered on par (or close enough), it has thunderbolt, and they may not see a reason to make dual versions. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the wind is blowing that way.
if i buy the 8gb ram 256 ssd model can i upgrade the ram and the ssd?
unsettling to see people use the touchpad on ThinkPads ..
Still doesn't beat a good T480
Each has their pro's and con's. The P14s AMD is much, much faster than the T480 although it does lose out on a hot swappable battery and Thunderbolt.
@@tnetroP Honestly the i7 480 is really fast, I don't really see any use in going faster.
If the T480 had a Ryzen processor, there would be no reason to get a P14s over it.
@@tnetroP Can you still buy the batteries? Not much use in replaceable batteries if you can't get them.
@@xpusostomos Yes
While I do agree that a GPU would be nice, the P520 & T500 aren't any better than the Vega 7 graphics. All that adding a GPU (of that variety) would do is decrease battery life & increase thermals
Totally agree, it's a balance between performance and battery life/thermals. That's why manufacturers like Lenovo and HP have this new category of mobile workstations with 'low end' GPU's. Not quite convinced. As you say, are they any better than the integrated GPU models?
@@Dovecomputers According to NotebookCheck, the integrated Vega 7 graphics are slighter faster on average than both the P500 & P520.
Neither are crazy powerful...I suppose if you need a good GPU, the Legion laptops are an option
Still strange that they don't have a higher-end GPU option outside of the gaming laptops, unless you want a dumpy Intel CPU
@@anew742 Because most workstation buyers want thunderbolt..... or at least enough of them do that Lenovo isn't going to bother.
Nice lappy.
Nope. Soldered RAM indeed. lenovo can do one with this BS.
Wenwar 😂
Thanks for your review, Super helpful!