Was gonna say put an experienced operator in that ex. would be a lot easier and definitely shouldn’t be out somewhere like that without some basic mats or at least some decent beams to work off of.
First weekend on a mini ex!! Hands on boom and stick controls and feet on tracks. When stuck your hands are not used on tracks. He was sticking the stick in the ground then using hands to drive without pulling the stick in at same time, it was used as an anchor more than any help.
Would say they need to invest in some mats to keep that machine from sinking again. Also im no expert but have ran excavator alot and if he help by running tracks with feet and hands pulling with boom, I think she would have gone a bit easier. Or just bite the bullet and rent a long reach. Great video. We appreciate you taking the time to bri g us along.
I do know that these tracks had been replaced fairly recently, and I don't think that they got as good of traction as the OEM ones would have. That being said though, the scope of the project certainly seems like it would need a larger, more capable machine.
Well that was interesting! Seemed like an odd time to try and dredge out that dock area obviously he found that out! Was good to see the old truck out and being used. I was on the edge of my seat trying to help turn that excavator! Hope it warms up there so you don’t have many more cold calls like that! Catch ya next time WG stay well and warm!
Maybe assumed with the cold weather that it was frozen enough on top? That was probably the coldest day of the year so far! Last week temps were in the 50s, so it hasn't been a bad winter.
@@jackstockley4501 You're not wrong! However, I had to pull Tad out in that same excavator, almost in the same spot about 5 years ago...So that spot clearly likes to swallow machines! Last time there were no docks there, which made things easier.
Okay wow! That was an amazing winch out! There were so many things that could have gone wrong with that and all that happened was a broken rope! Wow just amazing! I thought that excavator was gonna be in the ditch forever! How long did that take? Anyway be safe.
It's been over 15 years since I have experienced a cable break, but I'm not surprised by it. As mentioned in the video, this cable was an original, so not surprising after 30 years of wear and tear.
@@stevewood3170 For starters, when Gramps had the truck built he had them put 9/16 line on instead of 5/8 (because he thought it would be easier to freespool), plus they're 30 years old. Needless to say, it got a brand new 5/8 now.
Surely a classic case for a double pulley back up to the tree from the excavator, doubling the power from the winch? and reducing the strain on the cable 😮
We did not have enough cable on the drum to double it back to the tree. Could have pulled both drums out and then married the lines together and though a snatchblock. Hind sight is always better.
Great entertainment watching this operation! Missed seeing the director of safety in his shorts. Did I see Roger's name on your sweatshirt? Had a smile on my face seeing the old wrecker and could hear gramma saying "Buck your all muddy" Cheers from Ear Falls! Say hi to Bill....
Safety director was making sure things were safe back at the shop! 😂 Yes, that was one of his old sweatshirts that was hanging up at the shop, so I've been putting it to good use wearing it again. Sure do miss them both dearly! Hope all is well in Canada, Rob 👍🏻
I think they made more of a mess in the lake with that excavator that looked like a tough pull with all that mud and trying to get it out of there. Great job with that recovery.
That sweatshirt is a vintage Carhartt that belonged to Grandpa, probably close to 20 years old! Seemed fitting wearing it while operating his old go-to wrecker. I'll see what I can do about getting you something next time we order some merch 👍🏻
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery that’s awesome brother! I love to see an old truck like that fully operable and handle in the business. Must be a great feeling to have all the older stuff that your grandfather used to use.
If your GoPro is giving you too many issues, I would definitely suggest trying out the DJI Osmo 3. my GoPro started giving me problems and overheated way too many times. I switched to the DJI Osmo 3 and haven’t had any issues. The battery last a long time and the quality is great.
@@TowMan127 The DJI Osmo 3 is what was used to film down by the excavator and for the commentary while in the truck, and I wore the Insta 360 Go3 with the hat clip while operating the wrecker. Apparently this time it was too cold for the GoPro to work 😂
I drove heavies for 25 years and O.T.R another 12. I’ve watched these now for quite awhile and I’m nothing but impressed. They don’t just throw a chain and pull it out with the motor. Winches,snatch blocks and the all important Holmes or Century trees and they know how to use all of them…….Be real careful with Century trees they don’t have the deep roots of Holmes and in town trees can be big $$$$.
Glad you enjoyed the video! While this truck has its age, it was still able to get the job done, and in a place that would have been hard to get any larger of a truck. Would have loved to have had the rotator on it, but in this case the Holmes tree was the best case scenario.
Great Job , Definitely time consuming, Nice to see you wearing your Grandpa’s sweat shirt at the beginning of video…Nice to see his old truck still working…
I would think a long-reach excavator would be needed for this dredge project. That little Kubota, while a good machine, was certainly not the machine for the job. The operator should have refused the job. The HOA (I despise HOAs) should have made provision for access for occasional dredging. The docks should have been removable. I worked emergency services and we were on-station while recovery trucks were trying to upright an overturned, fully loaded, cement mixer. The recovery trucks were obviously inadequate and a cable snapped, whipping back into a tow operator's face. It was not a pretty sight. He survived but was brutally maimed. You have got to keep away from cables under tension and that goes for tow operators as well. Too many are injured or killed in their line of work. You all did well to get this little excavator out of a nasty mess.
Don't need long-reach excavator, just mats for the excavator to walk on. Probably could've avoided the cable breaking by two-parting the line between the excavator and the tree.
The truck honestly did not feel like it had a lot of tension on the line before it snapped, so the years of wear finally caught up with it. With the newer trucks today, it's nice to be able to operate them with fully proportional remote controls and stay out of harms way easier.
That was a thought, but we didn't have enough line to double it back to the tree. Other option could have been to take the second winch line out and marry the two lines together with a snatchblock in them.
For the most part yes. The deepest part is around 30ft deep, but on average most sections of the main lake are not over 15ft. Most of the coves or tributaries only average around 3-6ft deep.
If you had a operator on the mini you would have been done with it quickly and not broken your cable. Plus if they started at the end of the spillway and worked inward they would have been fine. Lack of experience cost money and time. All they needed was a good operator and they would have been money ahead and get the job done 👍. Great job keeping your cool guys.
Thank you! We've all been in situations that are less than desirable, so staying calm and working through this situation together eventually led to a successful recovery.
I'm sorry I couldn't watch no more. This operator is redicoulious. If he cant use the foot controls and his sticks at the same time what is he even doing down in that area?? This recovery would of been much easier with an operator not an equipment driver.. Just saying
@@chadpriest9622it's just redicoulious that people over sale themselves and get caught.. And the sad part about it is that these people make us operators sound like we are liars when we say we can operate a piece of equipment. So I add this. I can operate this piece of equipment professiontly productive..
I'm sorry there excavator operator but you definitely don't know how to run an excavator I don't understand why that guy is still in the excavator instead of the guy that's directing next to the excavator seems like he knows how to run an excavator or at least a better idea of what should be done because the guy inside the excavator doesn't have a clue
Possibly... It was a little bit hard to tell the depth from the video, but the frozen solid ruts and top crust definitely added to the difficulty of the recovery
or, or, ORRRRRRRRRR! You don't try to dredge a pond in the winter where literally everything is frozen on top and mush at the bottom and wait until the dryer months of July and August, then use an actual extended reach excavator and not a mini. The operator is CLEALY not experienced since he keeps using his hands for the tracks and not the foot peddles so he can operate all of the controls at once. The boom can swing by itself as well.🤦♂ He also needs to be (slowly) advancing the tracks forward while the winch is pulling. Not sure what he planning on dredging with a 12" digging bucket. Good thing you guys knew what you were doing though.
I'm thinking a more experienced excavator operator might have made this job go a little quicker! Good to see one of Grandpa's trucks!
That excavator operator must be new to that machine!
DIg the dirt out from in front of himself he would have been out sooner too!
Was gonna say put an experienced operator in that ex. would be a lot easier and definitely shouldn’t be out somewhere like that without some basic mats or at least some decent beams to work off of.
Agreed
First weekend on a mini ex!! Hands on boom and stick controls and feet on tracks. When stuck your hands are not used on tracks. He was sticking the stick in the ground then using hands to drive without pulling the stick in at same time, it was used as an anchor more than any help.
This is painful to watch. He can’t use his feet for the drives!
Your time, expertise, and efforts are very much appreciated.
Would say they need to invest in some mats to keep that machine from sinking again. Also im no expert but have ran excavator alot and if he help by running tracks with feet and hands pulling with boom, I think she would have gone a bit easier. Or just bite the bullet and rent a long reach. Great video. We appreciate you taking the time to bri g us along.
I do know that these tracks had been replaced fairly recently, and I don't think that they got as good of traction as the OEM ones would have. That being said though, the scope of the project certainly seems like it would need a larger, more capable machine.
Great job guys!!
Well that was interesting! Seemed like an odd time to try and dredge out that dock area obviously he found that out! Was good to see the old truck out and being used. I was on the edge of my seat trying to help turn that excavator! Hope it warms up there so you don’t have many more cold calls like that! Catch ya next time WG stay well and warm!
Maybe assumed with the cold weather that it was frozen enough on top? That was probably the coldest day of the year so far! Last week temps were in the 50s, so it hasn't been a bad winter.
I could just tell that Tad wanted to take control of that excavator knowing he is an experienced operator!
@@jackstockley4501 You're not wrong! However, I had to pull Tad out in that same excavator, almost in the same spot about 5 years ago...So that spot clearly likes to swallow machines! Last time there were no docks there, which made things easier.
The cab rattles on them old Binders at an idle are unforgettable and all the same. The good old Holmes tree winch always comes in handy. Great video.
Yeah, they certainly do have a distinct noise to them. And yes, glad there was a tree of that size almost in the perfect spot!
Nice job with all that suction and lovely to see the old workhorse in use today
Another fine recovery. Love the old truck, pretty cool
Thank you!
The old truck did a great job.
Man it was hard to watch that operator lol looked like he had no idea what he was doing
Poppa Shock's old ride, good to see that out running,. I'm sure Roger and my dad were watching. Great job
Thanks! Sure do miss the old times seeing all the familiar faces every day out at the shop!
He should have been able to turn if you let some tension off of the cable, let him back into the hole and turn on the way out.
Awesome seeing your Grandfathers truck
That was his last go-to truck for most everything he did in his later years.
Okay wow! That was an amazing winch out! There were so many things that could have gone wrong with that and all that happened was a broken rope! Wow just amazing! I thought that excavator was gonna be in the ditch forever! How long did that take? Anyway be safe.
Thank you! We had a couple hours wrapped up into the job, and were sure cold by the end of it.
Great job and video
LOVE that Roger sweatshirt! Nice job again Wilcox Garage!
So why didn't they use the cable looped around bucket with both pulling at the same time?
What a solid crew. Real good people.
Thank you!
That cable break was very special.
But it worked and that's what matters.
So thanks for this report and I'll wait for the next one.
It's been over 15 years since I have experienced a cable break, but I'm not surprised by it. As mentioned in the video, this cable was an original, so not surprising after 30 years of wear and tear.
We broke a (wire rope) lol on our 45ton one time it sounded like a Canon going off
@@stevewood3170 For starters, when Gramps had the truck built he had them put 9/16 line on instead of 5/8 (because he thought it would be easier to freespool), plus they're 30 years old. Needless to say, it got a brand new 5/8 now.
Surely a classic case for a double pulley back up to the tree from the excavator, doubling the power from the winch? and reducing the strain on the cable 😮
Was saying that before the pulling started, even better to another tree.
We did not have enough cable on the drum to double it back to the tree. Could have pulled both drums out and then married the lines together and though a snatchblock. Hind sight is always better.
YOU COULD USE 2-WAY RADIOS BETWEEN EVERYONE- WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE A COUPLE SMALL LOGS UNDER TRACKS
We have 2 sets of Sonetics Headsets...you would think we would have at least thought to bring 1 set 😂
Nice job.
Probably a rental machine. He’s going to have some cleaning to do before it goes back.
The machine actually belongs to the association, and is used for general maintenance around the lake.
Great entertainment watching this operation! Missed seeing the director of safety in his shorts. Did I see Roger's name on your sweatshirt? Had a smile on my face seeing the old wrecker and could hear gramma saying "Buck your all muddy" Cheers from Ear Falls! Say hi to Bill....
Safety director was making sure things were safe back at the shop! 😂 Yes, that was one of his old sweatshirts that was hanging up at the shop, so I've been putting it to good use wearing it again. Sure do miss them both dearly! Hope all is well in Canada, Rob 👍🏻
I think they made more of a mess in the lake with that excavator that looked like a tough pull with all that mud and trying to get it out of there. Great job with that recovery.
Good operator would do one track forward and other reverse to rotate the track assembly the way you need it. Lift the blade up
Great job fellas
Great job guys
Keep Watching your video
Thank you!
Another interesting video. You're right about the frozen mud, it's about the same as concrete.
Nice wrecker!!
Tricky assignment which you handled well.
Great job guys! 👏👏👏I love that old wrecker! 💪💪💪💪 I need one of those Wilcox Sweaters 😂😂
That sweatshirt is a vintage Carhartt that belonged to Grandpa, probably close to 20 years old! Seemed fitting wearing it while operating his old go-to wrecker. I'll see what I can do about getting you something next time we order some merch 👍🏻
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery that’s awesome brother! I love to see an old truck like that fully operable and handle in the business. Must be a great feeling to have all the older stuff that your grandfather used to use.
If your GoPro is giving you too many issues, I would definitely suggest trying out the DJI Osmo 3. my GoPro started giving me problems and overheated way too many times. I switched to the DJI Osmo 3 and haven’t had any issues. The battery last a long time and the quality is great.
@@TowMan127 The DJI Osmo 3 is what was used to film down by the excavator and for the commentary while in the truck, and I wore the Insta 360 Go3 with the hat clip while operating the wrecker. Apparently this time it was too cold for the GoPro to work 😂
@@WilcoxGarageRecovery guess those GoPros don’t like heat or cold weather 😂
I drove heavies for 25 years and O.T.R another 12. I’ve watched these now for quite awhile and I’m nothing but impressed. They don’t just throw a chain and pull it out with the motor. Winches,snatch blocks and the all important Holmes or Century trees and they know how to use all of them…….Be real careful with Century trees they don’t have the deep roots of Holmes and in town trees can be big $$$$.
Glad you enjoyed the video! While this truck has its age, it was still able to get the job done, and in a place that would have been hard to get any larger of a truck. Would have loved to have had the rotator on it, but in this case the Holmes tree was the best case scenario.
The blade is down creating a plow. Need to lift it up as high as possible.
Great Job , Definitely time consuming, Nice to see you wearing your Grandpa’s sweat shirt at the beginning of video…Nice to see his old truck still working…
Couldn't let the sweatshirt waste away on a hook, it's vintage Carhartt! The old trucks don't get out often, but when they do they just work.
Single line?
I would think a long-reach excavator would be needed for this dredge project. That little Kubota, while a good machine, was certainly not the machine for the job. The operator should have refused the job. The HOA (I despise HOAs) should have made provision for access for occasional dredging. The docks should have been removable.
I worked emergency services and we were on-station while recovery trucks were trying to upright an overturned, fully loaded, cement mixer. The recovery trucks were obviously inadequate and a cable snapped, whipping back into a tow operator's face. It was not a pretty sight. He survived but was brutally maimed. You have got to keep away from cables under tension and that goes for tow operators as well. Too many are injured or killed in their line of work.
You all did well to get this little excavator out of a nasty mess.
Don't need long-reach excavator, just mats for the excavator to walk on.
Probably could've avoided the cable breaking by two-parting the line between the excavator and the tree.
The truck honestly did not feel like it had a lot of tension on the line before it snapped, so the years of wear finally caught up with it. With the newer trucks today, it's nice to be able to operate them with fully proportional remote controls and stay out of harms way easier.
That was a thought, but we didn't have enough line to double it back to the tree. Other option could have been to take the second winch line out and marry the two lines together with a snatchblock in them.
It’s not his fault but it’s frustrating watching that operator drive with your feet and both hands on the controls
Who the hell is the operator? I see why he swamped it in the pond 😂
Machine operators skills are a little less than desirable but good job getting it out
That's a very shallow lake.
For the most part yes. The deepest part is around 30ft deep, but on average most sections of the main lake are not over 15ft. Most of the coves or tributaries only average around 3-6ft deep.
What were they trying to do in the mud with out some kind of timbers.If the track hoe operator new what he was doing this wouldn't have happened.
Maak hem nu eens aan die onderlagen vast
He doesnt know how to spin the tracks or rotate them the right way
You probably know that cable rots out from the inside there is no way that I would use 30 year old cable let alone 15 year old cables
Why did he think driving down in there was a good idea anyways lol
We were told the HOA directors directed the operator to dredge it 🤷♂️😂
Need a operator
If you had a operator on the mini you would have been done with it quickly and not broken your cable. Plus if they started at the end of the spillway and worked inward they would have been fine. Lack of experience cost money and time. All they needed was a good operator and they would have been money ahead and get the job done 👍. Great job keeping your cool guys.
Thank you! We've all been in situations that are less than desirable, so staying calm and working through this situation together eventually led to a successful recovery.
I'm sorry I couldn't watch no more. This operator is redicoulious. If he cant use the foot controls and his sticks at the same time what is he even doing down in that area??
This recovery would of been much easier with an operator not an equipment driver.. Just saying
Amen brother 😂
@@chadpriest9622it's just redicoulious that people over sale themselves and get caught.. And the sad part about it is that these people make us operators sound like we are liars when we say we can operate a piece of equipment. So I add this. I can operate this piece of equipment professiontly productive..
I'm sorry there excavator operator but you definitely don't know how to run an excavator I don't understand why that guy is still in the excavator instead of the guy that's directing next to the excavator seems like he knows how to run an excavator or at least a better idea of what should be done because the guy inside the excavator doesn't have a clue
But one thing I know about Kubota excavators is that they're controls are difficult to operate
Things would have went better with a better equipment operator
It would help if that guy had a clue about running a excavator, if he turned that shovel around he could of pushed himself out.
Good job. I'm thinking a more experienced operator would have helped in the machine.
Possibly... It was a little bit hard to tell the depth from the video, but the frozen solid ruts and top crust definitely added to the difficulty of the recovery
Raise the blade in back hello.
Amateur hour,i could get that out without a wrecker.put logs under the tracks.
Terrible operator 😅
That was a guy that should not run an Excavator.
You can’t fix stupidity
Does a true story more experience and move that mud in front of him
or, or, ORRRRRRRRRR! You don't try to dredge a pond in the winter where literally everything is frozen on top and mush at the bottom and wait until the dryer months of July and August, then use an actual extended reach excavator and not a mini. The operator is CLEALY not experienced since he keeps using his hands for the tracks and not the foot peddles so he can operate all of the controls at once. The boom can swing by itself as well.🤦♂ He also needs to be (slowly) advancing the tracks forward while the winch is pulling. Not sure what he planning on dredging with a 12" digging bucket. Good thing you guys knew what you were doing though.