HOW TO RUIN a 4wd truck by LOWERING IT! (but improve the handling, and make better in every way)
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- So you want the benefits of a 4wd system, but you feel your truck is too high in the air? Well, you're in luck, because EVERY gm 4x4 full size truck made since 1988 can be easily lowered with a few simple parts, and that's what I'm doing with my Single Cab GMT800 stepside truck. I'm combining a drop shackle, lift block removal, and STOCK 2500hd torsion bar keys to lower this truck, but later on we're gonna throw on some drop spindles and a hanger to lower it even further.
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Chapters:
0:00 Let's RUIN this truck
5:15 Lift Block Removal
9:23 Drop Shackle Install
10:43 Wait, the beds coming off?
11:11 I knew this would happen... RUST
12:57 Hammer Time
15:16 Adapt and Overcome
17:53 Bed back on, and onto the front
19:28 Torsion Key Differences
21:57 Its DONE - Авто/Мото
What do you think of the stance, should we go lower?
If it was my truck and I won the lotto it would be a lowered pre runner 💯
You going too c notch the frame?
Low enough i think. Of course i would have left it the way it was. But cool video!
I absolutely loved redtide and 03-05 awd silverado ss is one of my favorite trucks of all time so go just a little bit lower!
Curious why not a spring over in the rear..would have been about 5"lower and wouldn't have to mess with shackles until later with front spindles
ruined? made it even better cuhh
Lowering 4x4 GM trucks has long been your specialty. I wasn’t fooled by the video title!
Looks great to me. When you guys did the low red OBS truck, I was motivated to do one for myself. Haven't found the right truck yet, but I keep looking, and it will happen. Not so concerned about AWD, just a nice stance that still allows for winter traction.
Thanks for sharing this one with us. And hello from North Idaho!
Looks like a good amount of people approve the drop. I like it as well! It's gonna be fun with some big power and AWD. Keep making these great videos.
Love this type of GM truck content. Keep up the great work bud!!
I'm with you with the lowering LT.
Drop it like it's hot!
Keep doing what your doing LT. love your channel and love the trucks you are putting out.
Nice to see one lowered. Love the content! It’ll be a beast when you’re done
Thanks for the vid ,bout ta drop my 2000 and this is the best vid I’ve watched ✊🏼
I think it looks good, can’t wait to see the finished product, I watched the AWD swap on the 88 Chevrolet K1500 that you lowered on truck tech and I know what you are capable of my friend, keep up the good work LT.
Thanks a ton!
Step sides look killer lowered. Now, add mad power, and with some AWD action......awe yiss a street fighter for sure
Looks great
Screw the haters, build YOUR build brother. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
Excellent vidja as always
Love that you lowered it. Much better!!
i actually liked your project Redtide when you did that truck a while back. i would love to build an AWD shop truck/ winter beater like this one! Awesome, can't wait to see more!
Thanks! I wanna get some serious snow this winter to test it out
As always great fun to watch. Put me down for liking the lowering of the truck. I enjoyed your Power Nation episodes of lowering the red truck.
Thanks! That was a fun one
This is awesome. I’ve been wanting to do this to my 89 step side every since I seen you guys do this back in the day. Maybe I should RUclips it !
I appreciate you making this video, I recently bought a 01 z71 in immaculate condition, thought about selling it and making a profit because I hate the high stance on it, but now watching this video I think I’m gonna keep it , lower it down and get the right wheels put on it, maybe throw a turbo on it on down the road.
Looks good. I look forward to seeing it lower. Just lowered my 2wd 04 ext cab with hotchkis coils and belltech leafs. Definitely do a flip kit or hangers on the rear of this truck. I ran the belltech drop leafs on my previous standard cab stepside truck and they were WAY to stiff. The 20" snowflakes will look good, just got them for my truck as well. Yep everyone has them, but I still like them.
Did the same to my NBS Z71, but I didn't have to use the keys, I just backed mine off a ways. Next is a flip with a notch and the 2 inch spindles. Do it!!
Can't please everyone. Truck looks good Lawrence keep up the good work!
I lowered my old OBS Yukon Denali with drop keys and shackles. Looked killer on newer 17” Denali rims! Also lowered my 4wd Avalanche by turning the keys down and drop coil springs with shock extenders. Looked great on 20” NBS rims! I love lowered 4wds!
Looks Awesome! Hopefully someday I will be able to add a lowered 4X4 or AWD truck to my fleet or possibly modify my 69 C10 to a low 4X4 or AWD. As always another great video & thank you for sharing.
This is def one of my favorite posts. Great to see so many parts coming off and back together. Time for turbo???
Yes! Turbo time
I love the new stance and future plans.
Livin in the Rockies, your street truck really should be 4WD. You done it right!
Can’t wait to drive it in the snow
Iv been a fan of you L.T for a very long time it feels like. I never knew u had a ext cab obs truck. I commented a while back about the center console stuff. I have a 98 ext cab it's a pretty nice ol truck. I wish 1 day I could build it into a turbo ls and stick shift awd. Very be expectations for a auto 2wd truck. Lol. Keep the awesome content coming it gives me hope. Who knows I might start that after I get my ek sedan done.
So much better Can’t wait to see it lower
I did a set of lift shackles on my 04 Colorado a number of years ago and I had the same issue. What a pita! I wasn’t expecting it to be that big of a pain and the truck was only 5 years old at the time. And yes, the older I get the less i find I actually need a lifted truck. Just can’t justify it since I don’t go off road and don’t have access to trails.
I’d call it a subtle lowering job, looks good!
I pray that one day, that you do a segment/video/tech talk on upgrading OBS-GMT400 Brake upgrade/swap and or using converting GMT800,900 brake components.
As an OBS owner (1995 c1500 single stepside Show Trucks USA/Mark 3 variation) the brakes just plan suck, some companies like Pro Performance sells a kit that beats up peoples wallets, but there has to alternatives out, and the fact that you know your way around these platforms and your skill set makes all of OBS folks wonder what you would have to say..
Not to many other companies focused on the GMT400 which is sad, alot them are still on the road to this very day, some modded or still plain ole fashion original!
Love the content, this truck reminds me of the 1 you lowered on the show and made the custom mount for.
BTW Congrats on breaking 55k subs, next stop 100k! Stay safe, and as always thanks for sharing your work!
I actually have all the parts to do a GMT800 brake swap on my K2500 suburban...
10 years ago I did a 2/3 drop on my 2003 Z71 Tahoe with a pretty warmed up LQ4 and 305/50R20s. Never regretted it. As a matter of fact, every time I am in a stock height Tahoe, I am reminded how much of an improvement in handling I gained. Sure, we lift a lot of them too. But for the majority that never need their height, the only argument left is personal taste.
Keep up the good videos, they are inspiring for us DIY guys/gals.
Thank you! Will do!
I’m looking at doing this to the exact same truck. Thanks for the video
Hell yea killing it LT 🤙👍
I like it. No complaints here 👍👍
Yes 😍 I have a 12 shortwide Sierra 4WD on 4/6 drop an love it
I’m so glad my truck is an all original Texas truck. Second owner from 2012 and working on it is a breeze. Never have to deal with rust issues
luckily this one is pretty solid, but those shackles gave me a workout
I have 04 Silverado 4x4 with 3/4 drop with DJM kit ( control arm/shackle). I bought new, modified it within 2 weeks and my neighbor never know it was 4x4. First deep snow day of their surprised look was price less. I never go off-road by the way, but looks and handles much better that couldn’t be happier.
yessah!
Love the factory 20” snowflake wheels. Gonna look good!
22", 20's are the honeycomb
I've been wanting a chevy project truck for a long time...this just made my decision that much harder for what I want to go with!
I like it. Well Done!
Its perfect just as it is, its still a functional 4X4 for snow and rain and towing and looks great.
You did the right thing I lower all my trucks I’m doing my 2012 Chevy Silverado single cab 4wd long bed
Looks great. The stance right now is what I would do.
Crazy how much this guy can do in his own , I remember it took like 3 or 4 of us to put on a bed on a 60’s Ford 😂
Just did this same job on mine a coue weeks ago. And the truck came from Idaho... I did it with the bed still on because I knew it would be an endless can of worms trying to remove it. A very violent and nasty job, but man it was worth it!
Love it. I would go lower cuz that’s what I’m doing to my 2002 and I’m going to put a Denali t case in her.
No complaints doing a 2/3 drop on my Ram 4wd. I’ve done the lifted route before, and I hardly ever even use 4wd, so it’s pretty pointless for me. Plenty of other mall crawlers around that can get the attention they want.
I have a 2001 chevy stepside with 22 inch snowflakes, with a 6-4 drop and it is also 4x4. I hear it all the time that I ruined the truck. But to each there own. Love the truck man
my favorite wheels are the snowflakes!
I like the direction you are going..... Two Thumbs up :) IMO a ~4/6 drop would be ideal
I know this is old but I have used my ball joint press to remove the bolts when you can get to them. I had a 98 S10 blazer in Wisconsin that I lifted and it worked well.
I love seeing the videos in spanish that powernation puts out of you it is really awkward to hear a translated voice! Love your channel tons of info!
Looking good LT!!
You made those torsion keys look easy, I had to use like a small Jack hammer to loosen mine on my 02 Tahoe . Lol
I’m pumped
I need one of these for my Minnesota winter commutes.
I like what you did with the red truck on power nation. So you don't offend me lowering a four wheel drive.
That was a fun truck
Cool look I am wanting to lower my 2014 4wheel drive Silverado so some good info and the one from your last job.
I lowered my 10th gen f150 2" and it looks killer and I plan on fixing the 4x4 soon
👍👍 another outstanding job
appreciated!
Looks good but gotta go lower! Mines a 01 silverado stepside and I got a rear flip kit in the back and drop spindles with lowering keys as well. I had to get lowering shocks but rides great. For the wheels I got some gm 22 inch
I agree even my 03 2wd Silverado 2500hd rclb sits like a lifted 1500 4x4 pickup and now after a 3” lower kit all around it sits like a 1500 2wd stock and the rear still sits 5” above the tire the front is 3” above the tire.
Looks good. And lowered jacked up dont matter to me a cool truck is a cool truck.
I'm a fan of lowering a 4x4 truck. I've found interest in pursuing ideas of proper AWD trucks. Easier to start a low AWD project with a factory 4WD truck and swap transfer cases out. Much like you guys did on Project Redtide from Power Nation. I suggest swapping the stock case for a NV149 and doing the front axle swap for proper AWD. Clone Redtide basically.
I think thats kinda the plan eventually
Love your contents, have been watching you since the T.V show👍👍
Appreciate you watching!
Love your work, I own a 2000 Tahoe Limited OBS would like to lower it but do not want to c-notch the frame. What kits do you recommend? I'm thinking around 4/6 kit
save some time and do a review on the speed engineering long tubes and Axel dump or side exit. I know you can fabricate so I would just be interested to hear what you think about those. love the channel, I'm building basically this exact same truck, your about caught up to me though after this video.
I think there was a missed opportunity here for some prank photos of it in squatted stance. 🤣
Can’t wait to see what’s next for the lil’ truck!
I posted a quick pic of it with the back done only, but it wasn’t quite drastic enough
@@LawrenceTolman should have gone to Home Depot for their $50 squat kit. They even install it for ya!
Aka: bulk sand in a 1/3 yard super sack. 😝
Axle flip kit rear. And torsion key/ spindle hub assembly up front and there was some sort of cradle that'd raise the front axle in the cradle some too. Maybe GMT400 only
You got me scratching at it again! my 97' 4 wheel drive extra cab is in great shape .I've had it for 20 years .
I want to lower it, all due to my dog has a hard time getting in, it she's getting old.I do like that look... people don't understand
thank you LT
Go for it! I love the lowered GMT400 trucks
drop looks good but before you drop more put the snowflakes on to see how it looks. I am glad you are doing this as I have a 2005 Silverado Z71 which is an ext cab. its has 5.3 with 4L60e w/ NP 246 T-case. its has Bilstein shocks but no front springs, dont know if that is normal but front end needs updating as all the bushings are shot.
I think it looks better lowered. Everything still functions to tow. Just a little less ground clearance.
exactly!
Very informative thanks, I'm looking to lower my 2005 denali awd
What I did with my suburban was crank the torsion bars up front. Drop the rear about 2 inches and threw 33s on it. Sits perfectly level and looks perfect
that works pretty good!
My factory 01' S-10 4×4 sits lower than a factory 2rwd S-10. Bought it new in Alaska and it handled the winter roads very well, other than the dad-blamed digits out there ! Most dirt roads .... No problem !
Deep snow........ Time for a toddy with a hotty !
Lower and big wheels for the win !
agreed!
Love it LT
I like your style sir. I lowered mine for free!
If anyone thinks you ruined it by lowering it, they can go watch whistlin diesel or something.. Its perfect and I cant wait to see the finished product!!!!!
I say lift/level the 2500 & 3500s, lower/level the 1500s in the GMT800 platform, just my opinion. I like every body style lowered or lifted in the GMT400 platform tho, they all look great!
I think lowering a 4x4 pickup is fine. Not necessarily "slammed" but if you are working out of one and DD it, I think lowering is a fantastic quality of life thing. The "cool" lifted trucks that guys use for work are absolutely awful to drag tools out of every single day. They suck to jump into and out of doing normal daily stuff. Lifted trucks are form over function for me. Stock to slightly lowered is great for people who want a nice daily driver/working pickup (baring heavy towing of course). Just found your channel and I love it.
I just got done lowering my tahoe. You didn't ruin it. Just made it better...
Good time to upgrade the guel pump.
That spring job brings back nightmares of working on fed ex Grumman chassis in Northern mn. After 2k sets of leaf packs. Yes I kept count. I got it down to 3/4 an hour and the wheels never left the God forsaken thing.
Good job
That’s a lot of spring replacements
@@LawrenceTolman yeah. It was a good 3 yrs of life till,
Sprinter front springs and trammys.
I've got tons of shortcuts from fleet work.
Don't mind the lowered look at all, but I think it looked better before. If you're going to do it do it all the way, like some of the other examples you shared.
I dig it, different is good.
Stance is great, I prefer the period-correct 16" wheels, but hey - it's your truck!
looks awesome
That's my dream truck. Stepside
Great job. 👍 i have a 97 4x4. My plan was to lift it but im droping it 😉
Go for it!
Had to check that I was watching LT with that fasterproms theme playing. I’m also of the opinion that you should do a budget drift truck with the step side.
Red tide was a very good-looking setup after you was finished with it
Macgaughys can fit 16s.they move the Lower ball joint up on the stock control arm and give you that clearance. You need the ball joint spacer though
Love it. I have the exact same truck but 2003 5.3. It’s all stock but I’m about to do exactly what you just did. Mines stepside as well and 4x4. Did you have any issues with pinion angle?
I have the Sierra twin of yours. Mines a 03 z71 turbo 5.3 slammed and lowered 4/6 I drag race it. Leave line in 4wd and switch off once I have traction. And I still have A/C. I love our trucks. Although the 03-06 cat eye stepsides look awful.
Yes, I loved when you did this before.
yep, most of us would do the same process but to lift It, but I can tell It looks good
Lift blocks depended on your engine, transmission and tow package. If you got a 2005 with the 4.8, econo rear end, and tow package plus regular cab short bed it won’t come with blocks but if you kept the 5.3 that came with the tow package it would even with the econo rear gears!
On to the power mods! Looking forward to seeing engine upgrades. Cammotion is what I use. You should reach out to them. Great staff and very high quality camshafts.
Nice work. I did wonder out loud, while watching you pull the bed off, why didn't you pull the fuel tank and get rid of those front spring hanger rivets? If I knew that I was going to be doing that job in the future, I believe that I would have done that much ahead of time. Just wondering...
I like it.. I wish I could do that to my 99 k3500 crew cab short bed dually..