This Mercy FELL FROM DIAMOND, why are they struggling in GOLD lobbies??? (Spectating Overwtach 2)
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Gold is a warzone right now lol I've run into booster accounts, players that have no business being above bronze 2, players that were diamond or above in previous seasons, it feels like any game is an unranked queue I have no clue what I'm going to get
100%. I get so confused in the games I’m in bc it’s like I’m playing with a whole team that’s in the game for the first time
Right? When s9 started my boys and I were having a great time. Now that were a little bit in our games have gone to shit. Either we completely destroy or we get destroyed. No in-between. The momentum of games shifts on a whim as well, can go from rolling to getting destroyed out of nowhere.
100% accurate 😂😢
@@haleraiser14 This is so accurate its never a good matchup its roll or be rolled 😭
I'm glad yall are having the same experience as I am. I'm tired of hearing that ELO hell isn't real. Last season I'd buy into that. Right now it really sucks in Gold and I'll stand by it
Something I've noticed from mercy players in high gold/low plat is that they won't let the second support get ult charge and it's so frustrating
I fell from Diamond to gold this season - and I have healed like this since OW1. Idk how the Mercy in this video was ever Diamond, they play like a gold Mercy to me. I will also damage boost a teammate that's close to getting ult to help them get it.
I let a lucio get ult charge once and he flamed me for not healing
@@Coolguysup Mercy and Lucio?
@@chilelekochileya5676yeah comps like that are a thing in low elo, as an emongg watcher I’d assume you would know that
the mercy meleeing from like 20 feet away while she was fighting ana took me out 😭😭
what was she trying to do? what was the thought process? 😭
@@Real_MisterSirY'know... in the off chance that the patch gave Ana tracer blinks, I guess? 😅
They might be a console player on controller. I had this problem a lot when I played console because melee was on one of the bumpers, and its was easy to trigger it when trying to aim.
If that’s the case, it would also explain why they weren’t dmg boosting their dps, and how they managed to get to diamond last season. Console is a different jungle lol.
They have their crouch and melee button right next to each other, so they accidentally press melee instead of crouch
Skewed depth perception hahahaha
I didnt realize you were a treadmill and was like why are you moving so much LOL
Wait, Emongg is a treadmill?
We 😮
That's actually GOATed
That Zarya was playing extremely well for a supposed gold lobby. Granted she got a buff recently but still some of those bubbles were on point
good observation
Prob a diamond Smurf
@@Artetr1s some people also don't play comp as much or don't fully grind to a new rank
what I’ve learned as mercy is you have to let your other support heal too. like helping tank get to 50-75% hp then leaving so the other support can finish them off is standard imo. (obviously, circumstantial on if your support is there, being dove, knows what you’re doing, etc)
As someone who is often the other support, YES PLEASE DO THIS HOLY CRAP.
It is such a MASSIVE pet peeve of mine when i play ana with a mercy who just REFUSES to trust or even acknowledge that i CAN and actively DO heal the team too. The amount of times I've asked the mercy to chill out and remember that i need ult charge too just to be met with being ignored or actively insulted is crazy......
It's really frustrating to deal with and honestly throws MY gameplay off or forces me to focus utility and damage rather than healing. Which ends up getting ME flamed and the mercy praised for healbotting. There are two supports for a reason. Our attention is better divided a good bit of the time so that everyone on the team is getting at least SOME kinda healing from either support. There are some situations that call for crossover or for one support to take over for a bit. THAT ISN'T WHAT IM COMPLAINING ABOUT! It's the from jump doing nothing but holding down heal and fly around to ANY and EVERYONE who takes even 5hp of damage. It's unnecessary and just brings literally no value.
Tbh, dealing with that stuff makes me just not enjoy playing kiriko and Ana as much. It drains me every time i get a mercy like that. Especially considering a healbotting mercy gets praised A LOT and i barely get an acknowledgement of my 14 people slept and my 45+ nade hits or my 30+ assists and kills on zen with 10k damage and healing. It's just frustrating to see the amount of time i put into being good on characters with a bit more mechanical skill just to have a floor healbotting mercy get the "you carried" comments 🥲
I don’t even touch the tank lol unless other healer is dead
I suffer from this. It's kind of anxiety inducing, so I stopped playing mercy.
@BonkVibin well in season 9 if you do that you usually get immediately asked to swap off mercy because the only Stat they can really judge is her healing and deaths.
@@dankdilly that's anyone below masters
They need to use dmg boost and pocket the dps more. If the dps aren't carrying their weight, you need to switch to another support for more damage. At least that's what I feel like. There's no use for mercy if you're mainly yellow beaming and the damage boosted heroes aren't getting kills.
The lack of blue beam is painful to watch
I’m a mercy main and I’ve noticed about this person that they are on heals way to much I rarely heal the tank unless they really need it. I focus on my squishes and dmg boosting (i average 3000 per game). This person also needs to work on positioning because they keep putting themselves in bad positions.
Hey that's me!
I have definitely found myself healing a lot more this season. With the DPS passive, I'm worried even if my second support is paying attention the tank will still fall over. That's probably the biggest adjustment I've been trying to make is watching tank more, but it seems I've overcorrected.
My comment about not taking high ground was primarily about where the team decided to hold second point defense. Like wow, a perfectly good bridge with some buildings I can use for cover? Nah, this wide open space in front of that seems like the better plan :/
The attempted rez on Zarya was quite ambitious, but I knew the rest of the team was there and thought we could push if I could get it off. Then I messed up my superjump rez and probably should have aborted, but I felt committed because there was no way I was getting out at that point.
I have melee and crouch double bound to my side mouse buttons (right next to each other). Since I use crouch a lot, my thumb rests on both buttons, and I hit the melee one by accident a lot (though usually not as much as that lol). Chat's right though, the air was definitely asking for it!
Thanks for spectating my game! Guess it's time to get over my trust issues and get back to pocketing my DPS, though the more aggressive battle mercy I showcased here (not my usual style) seemed a hit as well lol.
ya. It just depends what tank you have on your team and whether they just charge straight in or not
current diamond support (mainly Lucio) and in all honesty Mercys just the toughest support to climb at as you are truly the only hero in the game that only gets value from your team so don't be discouraged if the rank reset hit ya harder. However I will say Dmg boost. a lot more. from what ive seen your tank will die its that simple and honestly doesn't matter I rarely play mercy but when I do im usually not even within vicinity of my team just me and a dis exploring the world. Your other support and tank should be fine w/o u if not that's there problem and since everyone dies so easily now dmg boosting matters that much more in comparison. Although I can't fault ya for healing more than usual as that's how the play style feels rn. good luck!
I'm primarily a Mercy player - was diamond 3 last season, working my way through plat - but I've been playing a lot of Moira this season, and there's so many moments in this vod where you're stealing ult charge from your Moira. don't get me wrong, I get it, it feels like everyone will fall over, and also don't get me wrong, there are absolutely times when you have to heal the same target as the other support because the juice feels like it runs out so fast sometimes on Moira lol
but you have to remember that Valkyrie's healing will not save your team the way it used to be able to in a lot of situations. you cannot stabilize a fight with it in the majority of situations in season 9. so you have to let your Moira heal and help them build their ult so that you can use valk to be aggressive and they can use coal to stabilize or get aggressive.
you also really need to work on dying on cart immediately once the fight is over. who cares if it adds to your deaths if it lets your team fully regroup and retake the point. I know emongg touched on this but it's a very important thing for a mercy player to learn and internalize. when it comes to having few deaths as a support, it's about not being an easy kill and about not dying first due to silly goose mistakes. if the fight is over, die immediately, don't waste time, don't gamble on trying to escape unless you are already very safe. and don't let your teammates stagger themselves by healing them. just damage boost them until either you die or they die. that way, you both die fast and you both build a little extra ult charge.
this season has definitely been an opportunity for me to learn triage and learn to let my teammates die when there's nothing I can do for them. if your other support isn't going to do their job, whatever that might be, that's not on you. if Moira isn't going to heal when the team needs healing, that's on them. you can't save everyone the way you used to be able to on Mercy. I do think it's also important to be more willing than ever to swap. if your other support is consistently not healing - which wasn't the case here but I know you've had those games where it is because I have too lmao - then you will have to swap to someone who can keep the healing up when that's the issue. it's a hard lesson, but it's actually why I've mostly played Moira as someone who solo queues. I can't trust a rando to keep the team alive in these trying season 9 times while I play Mercy so I mostly don't bother picking her in the first place.
good luck on your climb!
As someone who plays mercy a lot too, atp in s9 I just all in dmg boosting dps
Mercy: watch your damage boost precentage. this helped me so much someone said if u have less than 60% damage boost your not letting your other support heal which makes it take longer for them to get ult! obviously not all situations is this 100% accurate, sometimes your other support doesn’t have that much healing burst out put (example lucio, brig, zen) so u should expect to heal a little more but try to keep your damage boost in the positive (over 50%). with the dps passive mercy’s damage boost is so much more valuable boosting a soldier as long as he’s over 50 HP is so valuable rather than healing the 10 HP he lost. watch your teams ability usage and damage boost burst abilities with high damage out put (doom punch, hog hook, dva rockets, and everyone’s ults! if bap solo windows himself for some dps time try and damage boost him!) When i started on mercy i played just like you are and after changing my play style i ranked up quickly!
This is the type of Mercy one trick I dread having when I'm the other support. I feel like I have to play something able to sustain a tank and then i cant be trusted to do my job. Instead of damage boosting and pocketing DPS they're chasing healing numbers with a yellow beam up the tank. That being said, not every fight was like that and they'll be back in diamond if they keep the good stuff going.
Yeah they’re healing wayyyyy too much
That’s not ‘not trusting you to do your job’ that’s a just a shit mercy😂
Or just non communication lol if you are all in VC let your mercy know when your heals are low as Moira or you have to reload as Ana. Sometimes we’re paying attention to health bars and with the DPs passive it’s harder to keep up someone taking a lot of damage as just one person.
She was a good mercy. Needs to damage boost more but what did she do wrong other than over healing? that’s not always a bad thing if she’s just triaging the team to make sure her Moira isn’t too hard off on heals when need be.
@@TheNoctWitch true mercy can encourage the team to be more aggressive if she keeps them healthy. Idk why ppl get so bothered by that especially if that's the way they prefer to play mercy I was like top 100 as her in season 2 and played her mostly as a team healer and it was great. Other supports get mad at mercy for healing a lot but then when I decide to pocket the dps the other support tends to not be able to handle it well at all because keeping ppl full is kinda the best way to prevent death. I never played support and got mad at the mercy for healing a lot but I guess I get why the other healer can feel useless if mercy is healing a lot. I try to stick with the dps and if the other support doesn't heal a lot I start playing as the mobile team healer.
I don't think they'll get into Diamond.
ah yes- i love this game called "Overwtach" one of my favorite games of all time.
Something i realized is that she keeps the healing beam up even when an ally is full HP or are at like 80-90%, something you need to recognize as Mercy (and a lot of supports imo) is that you dont have to heal all the way up all the time, put your teammates at a safe HP bar and look for other plays and just cycle around that
5:12 Is that a Grav-Dragon in 2024?? Fair play.
This season because of the dps passive even zen ult cant outheal it anymore
@@kamy6305 🧢 I'ma zen/tracer main and I can definitely out heal a dragon
My biggest gripe with support players is that none of them know who to prioritize support with. i.e if the comp is Moira/mercy, let your Moira play near tank and farm healing/dps, and mercy should mainly focus on healing/damage boosting the dps. Obviously there are time where you have to make a judgment call, but there are two supports, you need to trust your counterpart to do their job
Very accurate statement here, if the other support fucks off on their own, swap to a support that can keep a tank up
Mercy’s don’t stop pocketing the tank until Masters 😂
@@juveintheusa6261 if only that was actually true lmao some of the mf mercy in masters do too...which makes me wonder how they got there but is what it is
The problem is that one healer ain’t enough to keep the tank alive. We are not in s8 anymore
@@juveintheusa6261buddy on console
Playing mercy feels like you’re (excuse the pun) at the mercy of your team making plays.
Fr she’s just boring you don’t really do much. Like a fish in a tank
@@theregulararkandsonicfan5005 Definitely not boring I always feel like a bunny playing her. Being able to fly around and hide behind corners while healing and dmg boosting etc etc I think she's very fun!
In most of my gold games good mercys are few and far between. Mostly healbots that only have value because people in gold cant shoot.
the thing i recommend any mercy player to practice on is switching between your beams at fast speeds. something that can make or break your matches is not knowing when to switch your beams, doing this can make it so you maximise both of your beam usages. always start out blue beaming or if you need to heal first hold both buttons down that way you can switch to blue beam easier after. (i recommend switching your blue beam to your primary fire). don’t heal all the way to full during a match, but what i mean by that is what this mercy did for example is consistently hold down heal beam til they were full and kept holding it after. instead heal to a good health percentage, you can see their health bar, and as whoever your healing is doing damage switch to blue beam. you want to swap to healing during the time when either they take damage again or a break with in their damage like reloading, but also if you can wait til after the team fight is won. (mainly speaking for healing to full when saying to wait til after the team fight !!) some heroes you may want to heal a little more than others, like a comment below this stated tracer is a good example. tracer is one hero that when she is close enough and she needs heals then you should heal her to full because her hp is much smaller than the rest of the heroes. another thing i noticed is this mercy was being “greedy” or too worried about healing that they were taking heals away from the moira. trust your second support to keep up the tank while you focus on the dps, but that doesn’t mean never help everyone !! pay attention to when your moira runs out of heals then support them with the tank til they can take over again. i have tips for this mercy movement wise and positioning as well but these were more important, keep up the good work though. hope everyone enjoys their day and that your games if you play today are fun :))
Thats crazy, no bodys gonna read alldat fo sho.
@@Knifing4Dayzi read it all! :) before i even read ur comment because i came to the comments to say the same thing.
True! Alot mercy players, heck even in GM, hold heal beam on someone who is full HP already and end up losing a second or 2 of damage boost. They just don't switch beam fast enough, as well as switching targets to heal when needed, sometimes just too slow.
You can also spam dmg boost and heal if your target is getting shredded
@@Knifing4Dayzdon’t have to read if you don’t want to :)
this is for people who want to read it, but mostly was just me sharing information (i’m autistic, infodumping about my special interests is something i like to do).
It also can come as an unfortunate case of if your team is not taking advantage of the blue beam as much as they should, swapping will help, its not the most ideal thing and sometimes you can get away with mercy for sure but if they arent taking advantage of it unfortunately mercy becomes more of a burden then a help
Also...you need to tryst your other support...like..please
A Mercy swapping? Are you crazy?!
I know shocking statement, but some of them do know how to do it 🤣
If a mercy main swaps I feel very doomed, because I know that they are only good at mercy, and that they play every other support attempting to be mercy. Typically I see Kiriko or Moira, and they do the exact same thing they were doing before but worse
Apparently you play low rank lol cause any actually decent mercy has two or three alts either that or youre the salty boi who blames others for their losing 🤣
@@ralphforbes5807 I've seen masters mercy onetricks that just go toxic mode whenever anyone suggest she swaps so yeah mayby there are some that do swap but I've seen a lot more that will more likely do anything else but swap
Funny how there's one comment defending mercy saying they're not mid, and another is saying they were never diamond to begin with
When you go to the green screen you should take a controller with you so you can play, pause, etc.
I think mainly again, the dmg boost isn't used enough, she heals a lot when they only lose around 20hp, when the dmg boost would be move valuable in the fight scenarios, and like emong say, do not hesitate to dmg boost your tank and your support, moira boosted is great!!! And leave your tank to you main support!!!! Mercy'S love to heal their tank for some reason, the only moments I will heal them is if I see that the second support is struggling or tank taking way too much dmg.
I went from being a mercy main to not even touching her in 3 seasons, almost any situation mercy is damage boosting you could be doing the damage yourself and making more impact. She needs a major overhaul to not just be dead weight. The only time shes really providing unique value is when resurrecting which is entirely reliant on the enemy team ignoring her and not punishing.
And usually when she’s rezzing someone another teammate ends up dying because she can’t heal
I swear 90% of the time that happens
She has benefit if you have the dps to take it otherwise this, which 100% why I kiri 90% of my matches swapping if we need different utilities when needed
A good rez doesn’t rely on enemies ‘punishing’ it relies on the mercy’s skill. Because how are you going to ‘punish’ a mercy rezzing behind a wall?😂
This is exactly why I play bap now, I can damage the other team and have impact if my dps is trash
@@ralphforbes5807the problem with mercy is that in her best case defense, you could say “mercy is only good if your dps is really good” except that every support is good if your dps is really good.
If you have a badass dps player and you play zen, you are so insanely more effective at both pocketing them, damage boosting them, and setting them up for kills. Same goes for bap or really anyone but mercy or lifeweaver.
Ok mercy players, here’s a tip. Playing mercy in the low ranks it’s really hard to do. You’re pretty much begging for someone to carry you. Someone like illari or Moira. this will help you heal and do damage at the same time so you won’t be relying on them doing all the damage
14:44 i will use ultimate right now. One you team got pick. Two your dps have hp.
Silly Emongg, everyone knows the golden rule of metal ranks:
*Never pocket your visor/blade and let the enemy team explode them*
I've had the opposite problem in recent games where I left to pocket a dps and my tank gets shredded while my moira is sucking the enemy off next to tank. I was dia but I'm just stuck in low plat now.
Honestly, i love playing mercy too much, but as of yesterday, i literally suffered trying to keep all my teammates alive against another enemy mercy in a silver lobby as a silver 5 (because sometimes even being good costs for bad teammates and a chance to improving with them) and despite our differences on healing, i had a high assist meaning i utilize the dmg boost more than her, making her fight against my terrible comp a disadvantage as she doesn't atleast push some boost for a win or an advantage. So i won, but for the cost of my sanity, it was slightly worth the price to fight against a good healer atleast! (Especially a fellow mercy player)
i like to valk after one of the enemy team has been eliminated--ulting there and dmg boosting the team can help snowball faster, and if it ends up one of my teammates dying first, then i hold it (unless the fight looks like it's turning around even if 4v5) helps me save valk, best not to use it at the end of a team fight win or lose, then it'll be wasted.
This is a very bad idea. I get the logic,and I like the creativity, but this is very bad.
Press Z, and then use it when they're all pushing up with full hp and get blue beam split on all of them.
ever since season 9 started, I’ve been getting teams that play like slivers and below- idk what happened man. Way more one trick mercys too for some reason despite her being a throw pick.
See this reminds me of a game that my man had played yesterday he was playing Ana and his mercy was like hey I’ll keep up the tank you keep up the DPS and help me with Tink Tink push it out to aggressively and then winning the game that way and it was just like a little communication I don’t know I don’t really play too too much so I’m just watching and it look cool
When you say die on cart to prevent stagger, is this just to die as fast as possible? Or is there some sort of advantage to dying on the actual objective?
Mercy is Kinda trash in S9, everyone else got a buff to their primary and she didn't. She needs to get her passive back from season 3 but toned down slightly, it would feel much fairer in this new anti-heal meta, the one she has right now is just way too situational.
Emongg the treadmill
Good movement. Spent too much time healing the tank, particularly after the swap to Moira (before that I get it, sometimes the 2 slow heals are needed to keep dumb tanks out of danger zones). Not enough damage boost. With lower DPS it can feel a bit pointless damage boosting if they aren't hitting shots, but if they're only hitting 25% of their shots, they need those shots to count more than the heal top ups.
Their movement was extremely questionable. They very often massively overreacted to any damage, but also consistently wasted GA for no reason, just to move around. They also just randomly use the ability that makes the cooldown longer.
This is like one of the biggest mercy downfalls for like the diamond and below mercy players; forgetting they have legs.
@@Summonick2 Why is it, that as soon as people get into a comment section they forget they can internally think about things? We're asking why the person fell to gold, not why they weren't in pro play. Their movement is fine for their tank. If it makes you feel better you can mail them a letter that if they ever want masters they have to manage their cooldown better. Yeesh
@@shioramenrabbit insane thinking, insane writing. Leaves detailed misguided critique; immediately cries in distress when someone says “hey your feedback is shit”.
Yeah it’s just comments sections is what it is, we are just so short sided and you’re so brilliant. You totally didn’t write some dumb shit. Lolololol
I started this season so good i went from stuck in b5 to placing at b3 and getting so silver 5 like 90% and I’m now about to go into b4 again because the matchmaking decided to just give me a single terrible teammate that none of the team can make up for over and over again i can’t win at this game
to play a good mercy you need to trust your other support. if you're a healbot or your dmg boost targets aren't doing well, then get off mercy. you have to watch ult charge and make sure your other support can get healing (if there isn't immediate danger) and balance who you're dmg boosting to help them gain ult charge quicker too. mercy is seen as an easy character, and she is really easy to play! but she's difficult to master.
14:48 They used valk and played like dva lmao. In other words, she denied the enemy healing by killing/distracting the supports.
I got sliver after placement then I rank up to diamond 4 if you depend too much on other u will not rank rank I was plat in season 8
Gold rank is so messed up. was gold 1 in s8 for a long time, now in s9 i go from gold 1 to silver 1 back to gold 1 back to silver 1 on my main.
while on my alt i just climb to plat np with no losing streaks unlike my main where i can have a losing streak of 8 games
Thing is your dps need to be popping off with mercy in today's overwatch
Problems in Gold
Leavers
Brand new players including brand new smurf accounts
Dps don't pop off as much as higher elo lobbies, making dammage boost useless
Game sense is lacking. Teams usually stagger
Is he walking at us?
He’s coming for you
“Alright so”!
HI EMONG ive never been this early, but i love ur videos !
How can I send you my gameplay to rank it for me?
I’m stuck dwindling between Gold 1 and Plat 5 on healer right now. Typically a Lucio main. But I can and will play Moira or even Mercy if it’s needed or requested by any of my team
(Playing on Xbox One)
hii i’m not emongg, but i’m a top 500 support main on console, i could help you if you need it ^-^ (not boosting just tips)
I'm diamond tank, support, and open queue. But I'm gold DPS and, let me tell you, getting out of gold has to be the hardest of any tier
As a Bronze Mercy struggling to climb, it’s really hard not to healbot. Sometimes my other supports go into a DPS style and I have to struggle to keep the team up, or reckless tanks and DPS out of position. It’s really difficult to be a Mercy this season. I win one game and lose three games 😭
Well trust me, try to play kiri or maybe moira they’re really helpful this season, try to “ dmg " cuz that fr gnna help ur team alooot
@@lama-ox7wn This! I’ve found that apart from Mercy, this two are my most played along with Ana. Kiri is great for pumping heals, Moira is awesome for healing and helping out with dmg, and Ana is awesome for distance and aggressive plays. In lower ranks, my team rarely peels for the supports so these characters benefit me greatly. Heck I had one game where I had 0 deaths as Ana and 16 kills plus 12 assists. Cause I kept getting dived by an Ashe and a Genji but I managed.
Immediate impression from seeing the first 40 seconds of Route 66 defense. This mercy is healing way too much. Their whole team is low ground w/ a Moira, yet whenever someone takes damage they start healing, even when their team is shooting; the Moira can heal too, and goes to do it, yet doesn’t get value because you both do it.
I was masters 4/5 last season, placed diamond 5 this season and climbed to diamond 3, and then proceeded to fall all the way down to plat 3. Wtf is going on? 😭
I was plat 2 last season on support but now i am gold 1 i dont know how to get plat again
Yall don’t understand ..like once you fall outta diamond/Plat ..gold is a warzone like it’s stressful cause they don’t wanna work as a team but expect team movements
TBH this Mercy doesnt have the best movement and doesnt make the best choices when her team is getting pressed. I feel like they fs deserved to drop. You cant just expect yourself to constantly be carried.
This is every mercy is season 9. Healbotting. Her only value compared to any other support is damage boost. If you’re getting 700-1,000 dmg amplified per 10 then you’re significantly better off going someone who can do dmg have more utility and have almost as many heals.
Even a gold mercy player knows to dmg boost moira's ult
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tbh I’m in the same boat, I reached diamond 4 two seasons back, but stopped playing during season 8 and now i’m gold 1 - plat 5, and I play mercy. one game i get a tank complaining that i’m playing mercy and throws the game then the next two i get compliments on how i played her since i didn’t die once and i average 65-70 dg
I’ve dropped from diamond to gold since new placements 😭😭😭💔
Im sick of trying my ass of in diamond so I dropped to gold so I feel good again
If Moira would have picked kiri there's a lot of lost fights that could've been avoided. That's where I sits at in gold lobbies.
My man account stuck gold 1 to plat 5 and I made an alt account all roles are masters 4 and up
I think I've been training for season 9 my whole time on OW. Very little change to my Mercy play. Placed Plat1 was D5, currently one game from D5, but I have never ground out to see how high (or low) I would go.
Actually, I used to be in Plat 1 as Mercy. I dropped down to Gold 5.. almost sliver. :')
was that you in the game?
@@suibixxn No, it's not
i literally went from diamond 1 to fucking gold 1...
jup im high dia in every roll
In s9 as dd i just have my 10 Placement Games a. im low dia in Tank im mid dia.
But Sup which is my main role im in Gold but most games feels like high Plat/low Dia Games. and like 30% of the games it feels like most Players never play OW bevor. Or they are Unranked Players and they play in rank like it is Unranked?
Yay
I’m a new ow player and I haven’t played a lot of comp but after 100-150 hours on qp I tried out ranked and got insta placed in plat 1 on support, even though I played on both dps and support I ended up with the rank for support. What I usually focus on in my mercy plays is keeping dps alive as first priority since theyre easy to heal up, then heal the tank (if theyre not about to die ofc). I talked about this with my friend who mainly are a support who focus on supporting and healing tank first, even playing as Ana together with the tank. (Which obv sound stupid) I also think it’s important to keep the other support alive. Playing support with him I instantly know I’m by myself and get no support or healing if I need. He dropped from plat to gold and got surprised and a bit frustrated, after that talk I totally realised why he dropped. When I’m playing dps and support with him as support, I mostly recieve heals from the other support on the team, and with the discussion we talked about I have a suspicion most heal stats is from healing the tank mainly. EMONGG in this video sums up what my friend should focus on and this right here might be the reason why my friend dropped too
Is he really casualy waking? 🚶
meanwhile: Solo-queing
I have no idea how they got into Diamond. She's not boosting enough and healing when it's not needed.
One word: BOOSTED
No offense to the player, but these are the Mercys I dread playing with. Not because they are terrible, but because the are SO CLOSE to being good, but dont reach their potential because they don’t know how to properly prioritize dmg boost. It’s especially infuriating when I’m playing the other support and can easily keep the tank up myself.
I had a game with a Kiri/Doom. I didn’t touch my Doom almost the entire game (unless he dropped below 50% health and I needed to beam him for a second). We won with flying colors because our dps were getting pocketed, and our Kiri had ult every team fight. If I have a Mercy game where I’m struggling to keep my dmg boost stat above 50% because I’m being forced to healbot, I know it’s time to switch off Mercy.
Illari vods plz
playing mercy thats why
Haven’t even watched yet, but the title felt too real to me 😭 I feel like I do so well but I never win
I don't think vods where its a clear win is good to analyze for people learning... you don't get to see ALL of the bad habits that cause so many losses you drop to gold. I can have frequent 0 and 1 death games with good teams - but 10 deaths if its actually a hard game.. those are the ones needed to be looked at.
I feel like reaching diamond solo queue on Mercy is impossible nowadays. You cannot rely on randoms to help you rank up. Mercy especially in s9 isnt a solo carry hero, so realistically, i dont think climbing with mercy is the answer. Why damage boost bad dps when you could be bap and become the dps
Good movement at staying alive but so much time spent healing someone from 90% to 100% when heal boost would win the fight quickly. Good player
I was in masters the first two seasons of overwatch two. Then i stopped playing and this season in down to plat/gold. The ranking system in this game is so messed up
ranks did get reset this season, but climbing is very weird and buggy right now with the percentages.
Love seeing those hater comments right away in your chat feed, Mercy... blah blah, meanwhile their "go to" one trick is Bastion..
Ooo no comments yet. I'm so early
Because they were boosted to diamond from silver and now the game is hard cause their Smurf eboy stoped getting on. I watch it happen all the time with mercy’s I carry to high rank and stop playing with. Moral of the story, don’t pay for boosts
Im going to answer without watching the video. They’re struggling because blizzard reset ranks and put masters/gms into plat. Now they’re getting paired with random dps/tanks and going 50/50 or worse because matchmaking in this game is dogshit.
Prediction on the title alone: as a former Diamond myself, and based on the limited pool of people I have talked to, we all got pushed down to gold but are still fighting Diamond games trying to get our displayed rank to match. I don’t know if this is actually the case it’s just what it SEEMS like
Feels the same for me. It was so frustrating to get out of gold 1. And I legit had 2 games (in gold) where the enemy team had players who were diamond and masters before the rank reset. So it seems like they got put into gold after their placement matches, which seems really off..
I was D3 and placed plat 1 and got d5 after like 2 wins. My record was 5-5 or so and I wasn't even playing well. I guess its worth mentioning I was queued with masters/gm friends (ranked diamond/masters this season) so maybe I got bonus points for playing in high tier lobbies.
@@commentbot9510 So you were basically boosted?
@@sarahli8091 How could I be boosted when playing in masters lobbies and managing fine? When I said I was playing poorly, I meant even in diamond it would be considered poor because I was having an off day. Besides, if the matchmaking is good then its going to give the enemy team a diamond player as well. Getting boosted is queuing with a friend on a smurf account rated much lower than their skill and only playing with them.
If I was playing tank instead of support I doubt you would make the boosted comment.
@commentbot9510 I don't care if you play support, tank or dps. If you're queuing with people who are in higher elos, you can get carried easily. You don't need a smurf for that.
No way they were Diamond with that aim lol. If they were it was being boosted in a duo/stack.
Best tip, dont play mercy this season lol
I'd say mercy is alot better this season after the healing debuff that dps can do. Mercy shouldn't prioritize healing, she prioritizes dmg boost. So that dmg boost+the healing debuff can honestly be very scary
ahh mercy not good the boosted otp fall back to where belong isnt it great to see
If people talked in game they wouldn’t have most of these problems
But they would have mental health problems instead
they're struggling because they were never diamond to begin with hahahhaha
if the game says you are x rank, you are x rank :P
Everyone that was boosted or placed higher than normal due to rank inflation. Is discovering that actually playing with people that actually are that rank instead of playing with other inflated players is significantly more challenging. If you TRULY belong in the rank you say you are, play enough and you'll get there. If you keep losing and dropping, take a look at yourself and see why and what's going on with yourself instead of blaming teammates for your own short comings.I was a plat player for 2 years, got coached and really evaluated what I was doing and now I consistently maintain low masters. So I speak from experience, the MMR is fixed and people aren't boosted anymore. I love it, elo hell isn't real. It's just copium people huff to avoid accountability 🤷♂️.
@@codyrobinson6When you have a tanks that AFK in spawn/delay coming out, or throw tantrums in voice - that's not avoiding accountability. That's shit teammates.
@@floofles6970 Still sounds like excuses instead of self-evaluating to me.
This mercy was boosted. Reset put them in the rank they belong in.
I too went from diamond 5 to gold 1. Nothing can be improved because the game will put you with people that are just not good in the game.
healbot
If your team isnt responding to pings you need to hop on mic. Its that simple. Theres a million things happen at once. You cant expect people to turn around and look for your pings. Pings should be a complement to comms not the default option if you really want to win
Complaining about the dps when mercy is the worst support in season 9 and they’re pocketing the tank half the game, how about submit the vod and just have self accountability..
Mercy is just very bad this season regardless,zen lucio bap meta is just too much better
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Well.. Mercy is a dogshit character this season, so.. if you one trick, it is what it is.
Watching this Mercy play gives me anxiety despite them playing vs gold enemies. Constantly fidgeting, flying, dodging imaginary demons. Sure it's good to not stand still and make yourself an easy target, but it also shows a lack of situational awareness and assessment of immediate threats (or lack thereof). So much so that it appears to be taking a lot of their mental focus, rather than being a subconscious aspect.
You're being way too liberal with your heal beam, the switch from heal to damage can oftentimes come 1-2 seconds earlier than you do, and it should be your primary focus and only switch to heal when the ally is actively taking damage that isn't just random chip dmg. Keep your team's pressure up more than try to deny effect of enemy pressure.
Try being in a good position in the first place, rather than masking the symptom of bad positioning by simply flying everywhere constantly so you have "no positioning".
Also with your playstyle Mercy IS just a hard hero to allow your team to carry, because on their own you can't expect your team to carry any more than the enemy. And the baseline value of Mercy is so easy, so you're very unlikely to outvalue an enemy support, especially when the majority of support players pick Mercy to begin with. That's already setting yourself up for a close-to-50/50 ranked experience. As the skill ceiling of Mercy has been gradually lowered over time, and formerly intricate mechanics have been made available at the lowest skill floor, your ability to skill express and set yourself apart as a Mercy player is less likely now than ever before.
You can ping and communicate all you want, but you can't force your team mates to do what you are communicating to them. Mercy just doesn't have this aspect in her kit to pick up the slack where your team falls short, and you can be frustrated at your team for all of eternity but this is a rare case of the hero pick being your primary limitation. If you want to open more avenues of carrying your matches, then you need a hero with more avenues of skill application to explore and exploit.
In this match for example, you see how the enemy team get stalled out over and over, but inevitably build up to their main win condition which is grav+dragon. So basically you know, eventually the enemy will win. Your ally support is Moira, you're Mercy. Basically you acknowledge the enemy hero synergy has a far stronger win condition than anything you can do to defend against it, and if you stick with Mercy despite this, then that's simply an OTP shortcoming on your side that will gatekeep you from climbing. Sorry, but this is just a fact you gotta face.
The tradeoff would in other cases be to have a team comp that consistently wins neutral fights and in that regard play for time and stall, but you're in gold. This is not reliable, Diamond is where you start to see this, but anywhere below Diamond you can't expect neutral fight advantages to ever be consistent based on hero synergies.
Mercy should be a pick where the pick itself grants you a specific hero interaction advantage vs the enemy, which also can relate to what map you play. But if you aren't gaining a substantial hero synergy advantage, then you have very few alternative options of outvaluing the opposing team. Especially in the current 20% heal redux situation, damage amp needs to be +80% of your core value, so if you aren't damage boosting a viable target 80% of the time you play, then you're basically doing nothing to improve your team's chances of winning.
What's the difference between a bronze mercy and a GM mercy? Her boyfriend's SR.
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