Wings of change: New Wing Designs for Electric Aviation

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  • @martinpenwald9475
    @martinpenwald9475 3 года назад +50

    The advantage of the fan wing for agriculture is that once inverted, it can be used as a combine.

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад +12

      Hahaha..Good one. Yup two in one harvester and crop duster

    • @andy16666
      @andy16666 9 дней назад

      Hahaha

  • @martingarrish4082
    @martingarrish4082 Год назад +3

    This video series is by far the best technical overview of electric aviation on the web. The sanity check calculations show deep subject knowledge without distracting from the story. I'm watching these in sequence from start to finish to understand the industry trend. Brilliant.

  • @mikeytrw
    @mikeytrw 3 года назад +29

    Thanks for bringing your own narration back!

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад +11

      My pleasure!

    • @LoriCleveland
      @LoriCleveland 3 года назад +4

      YES!

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 года назад

      @@ElectricAviation >>> FWIW, while you do have a _'detectable'_ accent {or dialect?}, your commend of English is JUST FINE...👍👍
      A _REAL_ human voice doing narration is IMHO _always better_ than a synthetic one.

  • @bernardthedisappointedowl6938
    @bernardthedisappointedowl6938 3 года назад +14

    Great stuff as ever - and what a joy to have your voice back narrating, thanks, ^oo^

  • @onedaya_martian1238
    @onedaya_martian1238 3 года назад +4

    Great content, excellent presentation, fact filled and extremely well done. It is also awesome for what it doesn't do: no music, no trivial or peripheral comments, no editorializing.
    Please continue with this beautiful and educational work. Your recipe is perfect.

  • @codetech5598
    @codetech5598 3 года назад +11

    People who have been looking at the covers of magazines like Popular Science since the 1930's will recognize these designs.

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад +1

      I am a Popular Science and Popular Mechanics person myself

  • @lukaskopia
    @lukaskopia 3 года назад +4

    Fantastic video, I didn’t know any of those designs! Keep with the good work!

  • @jbrownson
    @jbrownson 3 года назад +6

    Interesting topic, thanks for your video

  •  3 года назад +4

    I like the density ratio of information by second of this channel, congrats!

  • @jeremymahrer1832
    @jeremymahrer1832 3 года назад +1

    Well done, a really good presentation, and at last as a glider pilot i now understand what a high aspect ratio wing is; thankyou for the lesson, brilliant. j

  • @berloma
    @berloma 3 года назад +1

    I just saw a new patented design called Transwing. This is worth a video! Complete radical design that changes the transition from vertical to horizontal flight. I follow your videos and thorough investigation. Hope you can watch it and make a new video.

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад +1

      I have seen it. Although my gut feeling was that its a bit too complicated and may work for drones but not for larger aircraft. I will review it again

    • @pascalfust1035
      @pascalfust1035 2 года назад

      Innovative idea, but standing (quite) still for too long already. Not sure, if that might take off

  • @ghislaindebusbecq8864
    @ghislaindebusbecq8864 3 года назад +2

    Very interesting. The high aspect ratio braced wing project is reminiscent of the Hurel-Dubois HD34 which served for years with the French Institut géographique national (IGN) for aerial photographies.

  • @petrapatia6395
    @petrapatia6395 3 года назад +3

    Looks like everyone is saying it already, but its nice to hear your own voice again!
    These new concepts look NUTS, kinda reminiscent of how the first airplane prototypes were so often kinda fugly or silly looking, so its interesting to think of how each of these concepts might mature and change in appearance over time.

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday 3 года назад +3

    Always enjoy your videos! hope you're well :)

  • @AltMarc
    @AltMarc 3 года назад +1

    Talking about wing aspect, the "wing-grid" study used multiple wings at the wing tip:
    it increase the wing aspect, while the wing is smaller and also improve wing tip vortexes...

    • @SergeyKostenko88
      @SergeyKostenko88 2 года назад

      а еще интереснее - провести вьіхлоп тарбиньі по носку крьіла и вьіпускать его из щелей на скошено назад окончании консоли. и от льда защитит, и вихри отцепит от консольной части несущей плоскости. реактивньіе двигатели интересно ставить в передней части самолета, а их струю пропускать через полость крьільев и вьібрасьівать вдоль задней кромки, вьіше механизации типа закрьілков.

  • @grantschlichting4631
    @grantschlichting4631 3 года назад +4

    As always, really cool stuff!

  • @stevemickler452
    @stevemickler452 3 года назад +5

    The "flying flapjack" of WW2 era does the same thing as the fan wing but is much simpler and has high top speed. Thanks for bringing Macro fiber composite to my attention. It would be ideal for the idea of a "heart assist jacket" that would fit around a weakened heart and constantly give a heart assist/massage.

  • @zbytpewny
    @zbytpewny 3 года назад +1

    You sir are a pleasure to listen to - and I much prefer you to the other TTS voices: your passion for the subject matter and nuanced yet concise points of emphasis come through without being pushed, hyped or sold. Your tone is hopeful, measured, accessable and and your pace feels engaging and not rushed. Thank you.

  • @jamesslingsby9902
    @jamesslingsby9902 3 года назад +2

    Great video - thank you sir!

  • @DavidKaden369
    @DavidKaden369 3 года назад +7

    With aviation it's the same with biology: there is evolution. If a configuration would have made sense, it still would exist.
    When I studied aircraft engineering and build model planes, I understood why planes look the way they do. Because it makes the most sense. Easy to manufacturers, to calculate, maintain, ground handling etc. There are a whole bunch more factors to measure how good a design is then just fuel efficiency. Most of the time the other factors dominate.
    But I'm very interested to see other designs pop up. Especially with eVTOL.

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for your insightful comment

    • @Glove513
      @Glove513 3 года назад

      Well said. Great video. I’m also really interested in eVTOL and eSTOL.

  • @invent5540
    @invent5540 3 года назад +1

    Most comprehensive overview of what's coming aircraft wise on RUclips. Hats off sir...

  • @xxxanonymous3280
    @xxxanonymous3280 Год назад

    It's very interesting new concepts. Thank you for your movie.

  • @rossmoore2844
    @rossmoore2844 3 года назад +1

    Very well presented, and informative. Well done!

  • @dukejet6997
    @dukejet6997 2 года назад

    Thankyou and come again!

  • @tamasmihaly1
    @tamasmihaly1 2 года назад

    You have a great voice for narration. Thanks for the great content!

  • @headcrab4090
    @headcrab4090 3 года назад +2

    The Aeronautics part of NASA is very interesting. The Mars helicopter idea happened because of decades of research and experiments.

  • @gehtdichnixan4704
    @gehtdichnixan4704 3 года назад +1

    Trussed wings are basically the oldest idea out there. Just compare with biplanes. Many trussed wings are operational with light aircraft. Causes much drag at high velocities.
    Great video, didn't know about the fan wing

  • @garymccann2960
    @garymccann2960 2 года назад +1

    When batteties produce as much power as JP5 per pound I will get excited.

  • @petermiddleton6902
    @petermiddleton6902 3 года назад +2

    The fanwing definitely reminds me of a flying lawn mower :D. But im sure it performs great for STOL and saves good amount of energy in flight too. Ps Im quite a fan of Popular Mechanics as well :)

  • @Descalibrado_
    @Descalibrado_ 3 года назад +3

    wow thats a first, I wouldve never imagined that, even tho it looks simple AMAZING CONTENT!

  • @Soothsayer210
    @Soothsayer210 3 года назад +2

    keep churning those videos - very informative. Thx.
    Don't know if you have already done videos on Vertical Axis Wind Turbines. I find them fascinating.... to use in medians of the highways along with Pressure Sensitive roads to generate electricity. Throw in thin film Perovskite Solar Panels in that. Would be just PERFECT !!!

    • @SergeyKostenko88
      @SergeyKostenko88 2 года назад

      хорошая идея. ветрогенераторьі и нужно ставить вдоль дорог. а солнечньіе панели еще больше полезньі для обочин магистралей. єто нужно использовать!

    • @Soothsayer210
      @Soothsayer210 2 года назад

      @@SergeyKostenko88 Sorry, I don't understand this language. Thx. for the effort though.

  • @paulburrell4120
    @paulburrell4120 3 года назад +2

    Fascinating!

  • @elkcircle7245
    @elkcircle7245 3 года назад

    Always interesting analysis, thank you!

  • @ErikssonTord_2
    @ErikssonTord_2 2 года назад +2

    The X Wing fluidics control system for the rotor filled the entire cabin behind pilots, thus was a dead end.

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 3 года назад +3

    I have a model magazine from the 1930s with a fan wing.... nothing new here.
    Its an extremely high drag wing and its heavy.
    Modern materials reduces the weight issue.
    Pou de' Ceil, also from the 1930s, proved tandem wings had efficiency improvements at a cost of certain control issues. Too fast with the tandem wing drives the nose down due to amplifying the rear wing lift. It can be impossible to pull out of the resulting dive.

    • @SergeyKostenko88
      @SergeyKostenko88 2 года назад

      все знают, что циклокоптерьі - игрушка россии. нужно показать развитие техники, и для технически глупого населения єто проходит как великая инновация. а авиация развивается не в советском раю.

  • @sdcflier
    @sdcflier 3 года назад +2

    Fan wing seams prone to birds getting caught in the fan

  • @Soothsayer210
    @Soothsayer210 3 года назад +1

    Don't know if you have already done videos on Vertical Axis Wind Turbines. I find them fascinating.... to use in medians of the highways along with Pressure Sensitive roads to generate electricity. Throw in thin film Perovskite Solar Panels in that. Would be just PERFECT for Green Energy Revolution !!!

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад

      The latest video on Synergy Files (my other channel) is on a bladeless wind turbine. You can check that out

  • @liamredmill9134
    @liamredmill9134 3 года назад +1

    Fascinating

  • @abvmoose87
    @abvmoose87 3 года назад

    You put out good content. Keep up the good work!

  • @prokabaap1316
    @prokabaap1316 3 года назад +1

    Love from nepal bro

  • @donaldduck7628
    @donaldduck7628 2 года назад

    The market has not been disrupted. Classical design works and new technology has to be more specific than you state to be of use. Lifting body designs are being researched. Multi billion dollar industries working at the leading edge of technology have more to consider than simple model airplane designs. Mass air transportation has safety and reliability considerations that limit all other concerns in reality. Adoption isn't done at the flip of a coin.

  • @longloaf4542
    @longloaf4542 3 года назад

    Cool video, lot's of useful information, no shit, just interesting things, thanks!

  • @Justwantahover
    @Justwantahover 3 года назад +1

    6:23 Too much to go wrong. And it won't work without the more complex changable aerofoil. But what about twin contra rotating rotors slowed to the rpm where the receding (backwards airflow) blades have the least impact and airspeed for those blades is slow.?. I reckon they could convert the Sikorski RAIDER to one of those, fairly easily. Just A certain slower rpm rotor option and some extra fancy software on its FBW rotor blade pitch control.

  • @ramswaroopramswaroop147
    @ramswaroopramswaroop147 2 года назад

    Yes good projects

  • @microbuilder
    @microbuilder 3 года назад

    The Channel Wing might work well as an electric too, gear it way down so it can spin a big high pitch prop.

  • @miroslawkaras7710
    @miroslawkaras7710 2 года назад

    I winder if rtuss brace wing can be combine with cross flow fan, not fot the purpose of lift as this will slow down the plain , but as distributed trust. The inlet or outlet will need to be redirected by 90 degree so they are on the same refrence plain. The diameter will be much smaler to fit inside the wing.

  • @Rohanbodele9631
    @Rohanbodele9631 Год назад

    Please 🙏 make detailed videos on electrical system of electric aircrafts

  • @quirkyMakes
    @quirkyMakes 3 года назад +1

    Gyroscopic lift is a must

  • @HASF11111
    @HASF11111 3 года назад

    Interesting video

  • @xijinpingpong4426
    @xijinpingpong4426 3 года назад +2

    I think that battery technology won't be lighter than hydrogen tanks and fuel cells in the near future, so I highly doubt that electrical planes by Boing or Airbus will come with batteries as the main energy source in the near future.

  • @ericmuschlitz7619
    @ericmuschlitz7619 3 года назад

    That’s a lot of rotating mass, requiring a respective amount of energy.

  • @Summersault666
    @Summersault666 2 года назад

    Ciclogyro does not use Magnus effect to lift!

  • @faisalaziz3013
    @faisalaziz3013 3 года назад +1

    😍😍😍😍😍

  • @voiceoffarooq6810
    @voiceoffarooq6810 3 года назад

    Could you please make a video on the possibilities of Jet Man like wing powered with electric turbine

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад

      There is the BMW wingsuit. It has a very limited flight time. I have it in my list of topics but its down the order.

  • @kingmasterlord
    @kingmasterlord 3 года назад

    I want to put fan wings on a rigid airship

  • @___Chris___
    @___Chris___ 3 года назад

    The fan-wing seems like a cool concept until you have an engine failure with the glide ratio of a brick...

    • @shannono.5835
      @shannono.5835 2 года назад

      I read it’s better than a brick… just shorter than a fixed wing. They were using auto-rotation like a helo to slow the descent

  • @Eugensdiet
    @Eugensdiet 3 года назад

    These projects look like money burners. Ag planes need maneuverability and the open fan wing doesn't look like a good choice for that. Today in science it is hard to believe anyone's claims and the open fan wing just doesn't look very efficient.. We got away from struts to reduce drag and now somehow we are going to put them back on to reduce drag. You pointed out in another video that mounting props on the tips can effectively increase the aspect ratio. That idea is being utilized on at least two new electrics. Where do these people get the money?

  • @gpz6063
    @gpz6063 3 года назад +1

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      @gpz6063 3 года назад +1

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  • @seansverige
    @seansverige 3 года назад

    Your opening argument fundamentally wrong: not only do you basically contradict yourself later on but two of the three wing concepts do not seem suitable for commercial passenger aviation. All three are only becoming relevant because of the actual reason limiting progress: technology
    Of course mainstream aviation design is convergent but commerce, R&D costs and technology have been more important than regulation. Personally I feel that advances computation, materials and electric power have combined to make today the most exciting and innovative time in aviation since the early war jet age
    Actual technical content very good, would have liked more detail about tandem fanwings.
    Also, CHAPTERS

  • @solotronixTV
    @solotronixTV 3 года назад

    One Bird or a small stone and its uncontrollable !!! Splat ( Fanwing ) , I like the other concepts

    • @ElectricAviation
      @ElectricAviation  3 года назад

      Hailstones too. I suppose this is more for fair weather conditions.

  • @hasanchoudhury5401
    @hasanchoudhury5401 2 года назад

    JOBY

  • @charlessmith3758
    @charlessmith3758 3 года назад

    Ving? What is a ving?

  • @chrispollard6568
    @chrispollard6568 3 года назад

    Feel sorry for the birds.

  • @robertlackey7212
    @robertlackey7212 3 года назад +1

    With such a narrow wing the allowable CG range will be very small , possibly ok for dry cargo , but not for passengers , 10 , 300 pound passengers suddenly going to the bathroom in the rear of the plane could result in a disaster.

  • @rodkeh
    @rodkeh 3 года назад

    Oh goody! Three more public swindles...

  • @wesleymatosdelima4921
    @wesleymatosdelima4921 2 года назад

    No futuro a gent usará rreator de h1

  • @fredtedstedman
    @fredtedstedman 2 года назад

    The comercial manufacturers arent really innovative , they pretend to be , but leave the revolutionary stuff to these "concept companies "

  • @MyKharli
    @MyKharli 3 года назад

    wings of fantasy until we sort our air water and soils out .

  • @charlessmith3758
    @charlessmith3758 3 года назад

    What is the narrator talking about? What is a ving? I never heard of it.

  • @carbon1255
    @carbon1255 3 года назад

    Paddle wheel aircraft, what a joke.

  • @paullarue4896
    @paullarue4896 3 года назад

    Good lord it’s hideous looking

  • @petrapatia6395
    @petrapatia6395 3 года назад +2

    Looks like everyone is saying it already, but its nice to hear your own voice again!
    These new concepts look NUTS, kinda reminiscent of how the first airplane prototypes were so often kinda fugly or silly looking, so its interesting to think of how each of these concepts might mature and change in appearance over time.