Be honest about the mileage. They literally only test the cars over a distance slightly longer than the EV range and them claim unrealistic economy figures. It’s disgraceful.
Best thing for the plugin cars is to make 2 fuel consumption tests,one with battery full and one with the battery empty. The buyer needs to know both results and the official fuel consumption has to be the average of both
Honestly when youre sat in it in person, the smaller screens suffice. Sure, the bigger screens are nicer, but they're just not worth the 4k that mercedes charges.
@@Gaming2020-c1b you probs but for me that is the first thing I would spec up and in this particular case it’s a review car so shouldn’t it be appealing visually because we cannot be there
@@faranahmad I always prefer it when car reviewers review cars that are more base models like this one as it shows what you get base, and then allows you to work out what extras you would like - if any. The alternative is massively specced cars with huge price tags that mean you're disappointed when your actual car arrives.
Just got mine, absolutely love it. Same as Rorys but in white. For me it's about the money I save, I don't work it out in mpg. I do a 40 mile round trip to work and back so the PHEV suits me, I joined BP charge master £8 a month subscription and at my local asda theres a free 7kw unit with them, so my total bill for petrol to work and back has reduced from approx £150 a month to £8. Its a 10 minute walk from asda to get home, it takes 2 hours to charge so then about 30 minutes before it's finished charging I go for a run and then pick the car back up. I don't have a driveway, I live in a terraced house so couldn't get a wall box fitted, but I don't need to charge it home (so no cost here either) if I do it that way. Keeps cost down plus I get fit. Happy days.
@@marcusmadamombe6325 if it helps, you can also get EV electricity tariffs which allow you to benefit from especially low off-peak energy usage costs if you can install a wall box at home
I have owned an A250e since March. It is great for my daily commute as I was getting 45 miles in electric mode during the summer. The petrol engine is good on the motorway as long as it is not pushed too hard. Definitely worth a look for someone who is not yet ready to go fully electric.
These cars get a lot of hate from EV enthusiasts, and ICE drivers don't really understand them - and certainly don't understand how smooth and quiet and *nice* these are to drive and own. All of which is a pity, because for most people they really do everything they need at a price they can afford right now. I just wish it had been introduced a little sooner!
@@Oliver9402 I get 60+ mpg but only use the petrol engine on the motorway, most of the time at 70 on cruise control. The figure would be much lower if you use the engine around town, so keep the battery charged and then you only need to fill up with petrol every 2-3 months.
If you dont charge it at all, it will function as a sort off mild hybrid setup, where the battery will always be kept at 1 % to be used for acceleration from 0 to around 20 mph, as well as when you push the gas pedal to the ground and need that extra electric power. I have used the exact same engine in a cla250e and have gotten 33-37 miles/gallon without any charging. Most driving being on the motorway at normal 60-70 mph speeds. Thats what you should expect as well if you don't charge it. Note that this number is actually pretty good considering it has over 200 hp and 450 Nm of torque. Although it is a bit of a shame that the model i had only had front wheel drive, so i couldn't take advantage of all that power (front wheels spin if you try to accelerate quickly and you end up with a lousy acceleration). @@danyalexys4956
i have the facelift GLC and still likes the old GLK look. Even the old S class is more classier than the new S class in my eyes. C-E-S class looks the same in first glance
Got my a250e sedan polar White, premium pack, Burmeister pack, Panorama, parking pack, amg line, and night pack last month. My tips to future buyers. 1. Trust me, get the larger screens. The differens is as night and day. 2. Upgrade charging support to 7.5 kw instead of 3.6. Fully charged in almost 1 hour. 3. Get the parking package. The rear camera is just sooo good in day as night. Do not pick the 360 camera package, just waste of cash. 4. If you do not pick the AMG package, at least pick the AMG steering wheel. It feels and looks 10 times better than the standard s-wheel. 5. Do NOT pick the AMG seats if you have a short girlfriend or going for long drives. The headrests are not made for short people and you cant change their positions. I picked comfort sport chairs and we both love them! I LOVE my a250e, and you will NOT be disappointed!
@ismeto Thank you! The petrol engine is more than ok, feels like more than 160 hp. It's sound is not that good tho. The petrol engine combined with the electric engine in sports mode compensates it. Acceleration from 0 to 70-80 km/h feels like a 300-350 hp car. Those 450 newtons are crazy at lower speeds and still more than you need on highway. In the end, it is not a sportscar. The amg suspension is ok on tough roads. If you spend alot on bad roads, i would not recommend them.
Rory i really enjoy watching that channel since you've come across. You're a real asset. Your Top Gear appearance was also great by far you and Chris Harris are the best reviewers in the UK !
A250e is well sold out. They can't make enough of them. It has huge EV only range, very high MPG after battery goes away. And, crucially it has FAST DC CHARGING! Meaning you can go long trips, stop to eat/relax/go to toilet and charge for 30 minutes and bang you have another 80km of EV range before you deploy the engine . Also saloon is 0.22cd drag coef the best production car drag coef ! for reference tesla model 3 is 0.23 (wrose), toyota prius is 0.24 even with the egg-like form! saloons are efficient on motorways exactly because of the form they get good cd. Look 2 ton merc s-class 2016 2 tons 5 meters 6 cyl diesel and it does 5 liters / 100km on motorway with no hybrid/batteries at all
The mileage claims are a sham. They literally test the cars over distance slightly longer than the EV range so most of the distance is covered by electric only.
That's no sham. The car is designed to be used mostly in EV mode. As Rory said, most drivers commute less than 21 miles per day. The EV range was 42 miles. Its reasonable that fuel efficiency is based on the average use for which the vehicle is intended.
They always miss out the vital words...as tested under strict conditions. I've no doubt it can achieve the claimed figures under test conditions, but yes, in real life, it won't get close to the claims most of the time. I've had a C350e for 4 years now - much smaller battery, bigger car, bigger ICE, on a run I get high 40s/low 50s, starting with a 'flat' battery. Going to the shops, it uses no petrol at all. My point is, it's incredibly sensitive to how you drive it. Put it in Sport and drive it hard and you'll see low 30s. In some ways a hybrid is both best & worst of both worlds - they are more complicated and heavier, but are versatile. Depends if that matters to a buyer or not I guess. Wish my C350e had the same battery capacity though! It's a pathetic 6.3kWh
This presumes the driver is always using the full range to zero power before you switch to petrol. All the weight and space of an ice and a tiny EV range. Plugins will be the next after hybrids to lose any subsidy and EV incentive. Remember its merc giving you the ev range not even the absurd official wltp tests. Prefer to see range extender pushed so the ice engine is just there to recharge the battery like the i3 RE. Phev is better suited to trucks where geo fencing would mean they run in ev mode in city centres/passing schools-creches and switch to charging once in the motorway until battery tech or hydrogen fuel can dump diesel
I've just had a demonstrator. I did an 80 mile journey (40 miles to my destination and returned the same route) consisting of 22 miles of A road and 18 miles motorway each way. The car did 34 miles of pure electric on the A road (22 miles) and motorway (12 miles) before running out and the rest of the journey on petrol (so 48 miles on petrol getting me back home on the same return route) and the resulting MPG was 72.8mpg overall. Remember that when using the petrol engine it just charge the batteries as much as it can so the car said I did 38 miles electric by the end of the journey as it does assist the engine with batteries as and when it can. I hope that makes sense, the petrol engine gve me pretty good mpg on it's own when on the motorway, anywhere between 45-75mpg depending on hills and so on. If I was going for longer journey's then I would factor in stops for quick recharging. Nice car overall, average modern build quality and try out the seats before ordering as they might be too small for the larger person. I'm average build and only just coped with squeezing between the side bolsters. Accelerates surprisingly well in Sport mode and very low tax if like me, you're ordering as a company car.
That 80mpg in hybrid mode sounds rather crazy to me, when my Volt returns 40ish mpg in hybrid and a Prius Prime is around 55mpg. I have similar EV range to the Merc and my lifetime average is 110mpg, but if I just drove in town I could be getting 1000mpg. So take that 250+mpg figure with a grain of salt, phev mpg figures are determined by how the car is used.
I get 70mpg easy in my cla 250e the use of radar and sat nav brake regen plus cylinder deactivation is maybe what makes the difference. Most journeys I don't use any fuel. I know one owner who still has half a tank left from handover and he got the car in April!
Well, here is how it really does after one year. I ordered my a250e about a month after this review and next month I will be driving it for a year. 10,000km (6200m) on the clock. Simply put, if you can charge the a250e at home, it is supreme. Exactly 70% of my kilometers are in electric. 2,7 l/100 km (87mpg). Charging is upgradable, but I got the slowest one. It charges 0-100% in about 6 hours. However, since I plug it at night, it doesn't matter at all and I also get discounted electricity. The bigger displays are a must, all sound systems are excellent, tech inside is glorious, boot space is totally fine, power is very good. There are quite a few places with cheap materials, which is kind of disappointing. Overall, I am overjoyed by my choice even though I am a bit biased towards MB.
Brilliant informative well put together! I moaned on about the silly recent 6x6 video ranting about this is where top gear got wasteful and childish. Got informed about what a 250e is and enjoyed Rory’s presentation. Thanks auto trader. 👍🏼
As for the electric, you can get up to 60km range (tested). But the low overall consumption values have to be more realistic. I would prefer an average value after 300km of driving.
Bought one. Did 4 trips this weekend of 90 miles each. First two were motorway. Got 80mpg and 9mpkwh. Second two were A roads and got 50 mpg. You're only getting three figure mpg (or near infinite in electric only) whilst you have battery and you only have battery for 35 miles. Good luck getting 40. Also whilst you have 0 electric range you're running on a tiny limping petrol engine. The good news is that despite its meagre size it is quite good and perfect for cruising and overtaking. With both engines it is a great car and you'll wish you went full electric but not having to deal with the faff of public charging is a major plus for me. As most of my journeys are local I don't use any fuel at all and around town you can expect 4 to 5 mpkwh. If you go comfort mode (not sure why you would) then you can expect 250 to 800 mpg.
Love the car. Ordered a A200 sedan with night package and premium plus. Would like the 250e but it is too expensive and I couldn't charge it at home. In Portugal, hybrids are a good buy for enterprises but not for individuals really. I'll lose out on the acceleration but it will be lighter as well
M-Bs have evolved into some nice designs (if a little mundane) and it seems like the company is heading toward a successful future now that they are offering good EV alternatives. For most drivers, a hybrid still seems like the best option but it will be a long while before these cars loose the weight needed to be true sports sedans. Good review as always, love your channel. I wish you would do a video on car colors over the years and explain why all we seem to see on the road anymore is white, black, grey or variations thereof. So bland. I'm in the market for a new car and I plan on buying something in blue, red, or even yellow if it's the right fit for the model.
I actually like that there is for once a video with a car that has the smaller screen, kinda to see the difference. All the ads and videos you can find online are with the big screens....
I have a civic 1.6 diesel 2016. Just done proper test over 1740 miles of a ,b roads stop start motoring not driving li,e a grandad . Achieved 71mpg . Beat that. On some rons I can get 87mpg , best mpg is 112mpg . An amazing car ghat nobody knows about
I've got an A250e hatchback. My app is showing me as averaging 176.6 mpg since new (July). I do use electric mostly as my commute is about 42 miles return, and this is where the car excels. Def worth paying for the big screens they look so much better especially with the amount of customisation you can have on the displays.
Charge up once, drive a full tank of gas to within 20 miles of empty. Mix stop and go driving with freeway driving for the day. And then tell us what it averages mpg. That's the # I need because I do Rideshare all day and drive 300-350 miles per day.
@@icanmanifest Clearly this isn't the car for you then. Its much more targeted at the daily city commuter than the highway mile muncher. I guess something like a Tesla with a long range battery may be more suitable, depends on how deep your pockets are of course
@@IamTheGit My main point was when plug-in hybrid reviews are done, it’s rare to find someone who says what miles per gallon and got over the full course of a tank of gas used up in one day versus charging multiple times.
It's unfortunate that automakers need to have a smaller screen version and "lower end" versions of everything for their cheaper cars. It's probably financially cheaper for them to just all use the same screen in ALL of their cars, but people who spend more money would be pissed if something that costs way less also has the same quality of materials and hardware. Automakers are already cutting costs by throwing in the exact same engine in a bunch of their cars. I wonder how long until every car gets the same everything.
Actually, the info at 3:40 is wrong. When you start with an empty battery, the car will still function as a "regular" hybrid car. It will not just drag an empty battery and electric motor around. Thus it would still consume much less gas as an A200 with only the 1.3 liter engine.
It still does 50mpg on the motorway petrol alone. And it has 30 miles range available battery for everyday driving and in sport you get 212bhp and a great 0-60. How more perfect can a car get?
Thanks for the good review! Looking at these so really useful, probably lacks the torque of the 200D, that would be my only concern so need to go test drive one soon!!
the charging connector is missing at least one pin ! in the netherlands we want 3 phase 400volt charging 3ph plus neutral plus earth on every plug in or full electric car !
It's really mean of mercedes to fit those small 7 inch screens. 10 inch screens must cost them about 50p more. In fact they probably make nothing on them because they have to write software for two screen sizes.
Can someone explain the following case: - Pure Benzin version goes "100x km" with full tank. - How much "x km" will the hybrid version can drive with one full tank, if there is no charge in the battery and we are in the long trip? I am just trying to understand, for people who are also doing long trips (~1000 km), its still make sense to go with Hybrid version over the petrol one. Much appreciate if someone explain this. Thanks!
The fact that "if you don't charge the battery, you won't get the announced mileage" is no catch. By that logic, an ICE car with an announced range of 1,000 miles will never get there if you don't fill up the tank...
I have a bmw 530e and although most of my journeys are within 35 miles I have done a few long trips, I get well over 100mpg and not put petrol in the car since early March.
It is a plugin hybrid which means it drags the weight of the engine, transmission and petrol when uses electric motor, and drags the weight of an electric motor and a battery when it uses the engine.
Hello there. I'm interested in leasing this car and I'm not sure if I should go for AMG Line pack or upgrade to Executive pack. On Mercedes website it says that the AMG Line comes with a 7 inch display infotainment system and no parking sensors whereas the Executive pack comes with a 10 inch display and parking sensors included. I'm not sure if these are valid for the PHEV versions as well. Would you be able to confirm the below 2 points for the PHEV versions please? 1. AMG Line - no parking sensors and 7 inch display; 2. AMG Line Executive - parking sensors included and 10 inch display. Are the above 2 points correct? Thanks so much!
In mine the AMG line, it has 7 inch screen with reversing camera and parking senses at the back of the car, I don't think there are any at the front whilst reversing but there maybe I just haven't had time to play with it enough yet.
Guys, could you actually just carry on without needing to charge the car at a plug point? As in, are the batteries self charging via the petrol engine?
I had one for 4 days last week. On a 100mile trip I averaged 118mpg and around 90mpg on a similar trip driving with more ahem gusto. No matter how long it charged it never started more than 36 miles electric only range on 100% charge. I found the brake regen to be very useful and was great that the system could be increased or decreased. I had a premium spec version and whilst it was well equipped it lacked things like auto high beam and radar cruise control. Have I ordered one - well no I think it is still too much of a premium over the normal petrol A class for the driving I do and I am waiting for the new A3 phev to arrive at my local dealer.
I drive a C-Max hybrid getting 40mpg mixed driving doing Rideshare. Drive 300-350 miles a day many days. All that matters to me is what the hybrid cars get after the plug in battery is depleted. Which often is neglected as a use case in many reviews. The # of electric only miles that go away in the first 30 minutes of my day is a non factor.
I'm sorry, 256 mpg while treating the electric part like it has no equivalent is deceitful. A Tesla Model 3 gets 134 mpge. The way this is calculated the Model 3 gets infinite mpg. Dumb.
Why are these still not available in the US market? United States is one of the biggest auto markets yet all we have are the conventional gas models and straight to EQ EV lineup that's still offers all the restriants and EV offers. If we had these decent plug in hybrid alternatives to bridge the gap I'd be all over this.
Yes and when you get there, you need to remember to stop by the right sort of fuel pump. Petrol or diesel? V- petrol or diesel extra or whatever? Then there’s LPG. That’s if there’s not a chaotic queue for the pumps, which is also stressful. And once you’re stuck in a petrol queue, you’re stuck in it. So much easier with a battery car. Just plug in and go for coffee...
It’s interesting Mercades are using such a small engine. Other phevs use averagely 2 litre engines. I hope using a 1.3l engine is a sign of increasing efficiency and isn’t too weak.
I received my car about a month ago now and I’m comfort mode using electric it’s a dream to drive HOWEVER if there is no issue with my petrol engine then it’s the worst piece of crap I’ve driven and definitely not what I expected from a Mercedes. When in sports mode the car does not utilise both engines, also when trying to accelerate there is a flat spot at time so when you’re trying to pull off quickly we’ll you’re stuck in limbo for a couple of seconds. I’m going to make another appointment with my dealership as if this is the way the car is then I’m getting rid and would recommend anyone avoid it like the plague!
Im driving a Skoda enyaq 100% electric fir 1 more year and it is marvellous in the city or to go to work but you basically cant go anywhere over the weekend let not say on holiday -Spain where i live has very few public chargers out of the big cities. Im looking for a car i could use on electric mode only on my daily commute (32 kms and i can charge at work) but then can drive 300 kms overbthe weekend and do my 1300 kms trip back to my valley in the Alps, this class A might well be what I will be driving in 1 year from now.
Isn't it obvious that any car would have great fuel usage on a short journey when its running on the battery power?🤔. What's the mpg when it's just using petrol?
Who'd consider the hybrid A-Class over a petrol one?
Plug-in cars are pointless in 2020 for 99.9% of the drivers. It's worse than both EV and petrol or full hybrid cars
Patrol
Be honest about the mileage. They literally only test the cars over a distance slightly longer than the EV range and them claim unrealistic economy figures. It’s disgraceful.
Best thing for the plugin cars is to make 2 fuel consumption tests,one with battery full and one with the battery empty. The buyer needs to know both results and the official fuel consumption has to be the average of both
@@andreiarama8745 What do you mean by "full hybrid"?
The big 10 inch displays are a MUST
Deffo! Marketing genius’, they know people will want them and charge a bomb for them.
Whilst the design of the interior is good, it's actually surprisingly flimsy.
@@AlexSeddon11 Curiously, they are included in the standard A250e in Portugal
@@ephons Could Be Portugal Regulation
Yup. It looks horrendous
How are they giving Rory the model with the small screens? He deserves better, they just look disgusting.
Honestly when youre sat in it in person, the smaller screens suffice. Sure, the bigger screens are nicer, but they're just not worth the 4k that mercedes charges.
@@Gaming2020-c1b you probs but for me that is the first thing I would spec up and in this particular case it’s a review car so shouldn’t it be appealing visually because we cannot be there
@@Gaming2020-c1b You get a lot more for your 4k than larger screens.
@@faranahmad I always prefer it when car reviewers review cars that are more base models like this one as it shows what you get base, and then allows you to work out what extras you would like - if any. The alternative is massively specced cars with huge price tags that mean you're disappointed when your actual car arrives.
@@BobMonkeypimp ooh parking sensors and apple car play. Come on, the price of extras is insane.
Amazing that a Mercedes-Benz is now the 3rd best selling car in Britain.
PCP finance lmao
@@khizerahmad3288 Who buys brand new cars these days? It’s a depreciating asset. You’d be stupid to buy one outright brand new.
And yet the other best cars are American owned or American owned gm and ford
@@How-hard-can-it-be Vauxhall Opel hasn't been american since 2017. Now it's french
@@GhostStPatrick_ Not really I brought a brand new A35 outright and got 26% off. So I haven’t lost any money off depreciation.
Just got mine, absolutely love it. Same as Rorys but in white.
For me it's about the money I save, I don't work it out in mpg. I do a 40 mile round trip to work and back so the PHEV suits me, I joined BP charge master £8 a month subscription and at my local asda theres a free 7kw unit with them, so my total bill for petrol to work and back has reduced from approx £150 a month to £8. Its a 10 minute walk from asda to get home, it takes 2 hours to charge so then about 30 minutes before it's finished charging I go for a run and then pick the car back up. I don't have a driveway, I live in a terraced house so couldn't get a wall box fitted, but I don't need to charge it home (so no cost here either) if I do it that way. Keeps cost down plus I get fit. Happy days.
this is inspirational cant wait to get mine.
One of the best comments. We'll explained in details gave me a full in sight as am thinking upgrading my car to this . Thank you so much .
@@marcusmadamombe6325 if it helps, you can also get EV electricity tariffs which allow you to benefit from especially low off-peak energy usage costs if you can install a wall box at home
Nice one sounds like you found a good way of making it work
I have owned an A250e since March. It is great for my daily commute as I was getting 45 miles in electric mode during the summer. The petrol engine is good on the motorway as long as it is not pushed too hard. Definitely worth a look for someone who is not yet ready to go fully electric.
These cars get a lot of hate from EV enthusiasts, and ICE drivers don't really understand them - and certainly don't understand how smooth and quiet and *nice* these are to drive and own. All of which is a pity, because for most people they really do everything they need at a price they can afford right now. I just wish it had been introduced a little sooner!
Hi, what is the MPG of the petrol engine alone?
What kind of MPG are you getting?
@@Oliver9402 I get 60+ mpg but only use the petrol engine on the motorway, most of the time at 70 on cruise control. The figure would be much lower if you use the engine around town, so keep the battery charged and then you only need to fill up with petrol every 2-3 months.
If you dont charge it at all, it will function as a sort off mild hybrid setup, where the battery will always be kept at 1 % to be used for acceleration from 0 to around 20 mph, as well as when you push the gas pedal to the ground and need that extra electric power.
I have used the exact same engine in a cla250e and have gotten 33-37 miles/gallon without any charging. Most driving being on the motorway at normal 60-70 mph speeds. Thats what you should expect as well if you don't charge it.
Note that this number is actually pretty good considering it has over 200 hp and 450 Nm of torque. Although it is a bit of a shame that the model i had only had front wheel drive, so i couldn't take advantage of all that power (front wheels spin if you try to accelerate quickly and you end up with a lousy acceleration). @@danyalexys4956
Mercedes always tend to age well.
A classic Mercedes still looks so damn good and the modern ones still look futuristic. Love it
i have the facelift GLC and still likes the old GLK look. Even the old S class is more classier than the new S class in my eyes. C-E-S class looks the same in first glance
lol at those sad-ass 7-inch screens that look like a digital picture frame you bought for your grandmother back in 1998.
Got my a250e sedan polar White, premium pack, Burmeister pack, Panorama, parking pack, amg line, and night pack last month.
My tips to future buyers.
1. Trust me, get the larger screens. The differens is as night and day.
2. Upgrade charging support to 7.5 kw instead of 3.6. Fully charged in almost 1 hour.
3. Get the parking package. The rear camera is just sooo good in day as night. Do not pick the 360 camera package, just waste of cash.
4. If you do not pick the AMG package, at least pick the AMG steering wheel. It feels and looks 10 times better than the standard s-wheel.
5. Do NOT pick the AMG seats if you have a short girlfriend or going for long drives. The headrests are not made for short people and you cant change their positions. I picked comfort sport chairs and we both love them!
I LOVE my a250e, and you will NOT be disappointed!
@ismeto Thank you! The petrol engine is more than ok, feels like more than 160 hp. It's sound is not that good tho. The petrol engine combined with the electric engine in sports mode compensates it. Acceleration from 0 to 70-80 km/h feels like a 300-350 hp car. Those 450 newtons are crazy at lower speeds and still more than you need on highway. In the end, it is not a sportscar.
The amg suspension is ok on tough roads. If you spend alot on bad roads, i would not recommend them.
Rory flexin on us with that new Rolex.. ;)
@Falopian Tube lol.. man was a top gear presenter.. sure he can afford a Roli
@Falopian Tube why not ;)
@Falopian Tube hehehe
Rory i really enjoy watching that channel since you've come across. You're a real asset. Your Top Gear appearance was also great by far you and Chris Harris are the best reviewers in the UK !
1:39 damn Mercedes couldn't even provide you with a premium package model??
Well, we get good consumer advice out of Rory’s suffering
@@vladx2 hahaha true but the thing is dealer specced cars all have premium package so the only way to get it without it is to order
Whilst the design of the interior is good, it's actually surprisingly flimsy.
A250e is well sold out. They can't make enough of them. It has huge EV only range, very high MPG after battery goes away. And, crucially it has FAST DC CHARGING! Meaning you can go long trips, stop to eat/relax/go to toilet and charge for 30 minutes and bang you have another 80km of EV range before you deploy the engine .
Also saloon is 0.22cd drag coef the best production car drag coef ! for reference tesla model 3 is 0.23 (wrose), toyota prius is 0.24 even with the egg-like form! saloons are efficient on motorways exactly because of the form they get good cd. Look 2 ton merc s-class 2016 2 tons 5 meters 6 cyl diesel and it does 5 liters / 100km on motorway with no hybrid/batteries at all
@@person2186 it sounds like it's about to crack
The mileage claims are a sham. They literally test the cars over distance slightly longer than the EV range so most of the distance is covered by electric only.
This makes Sense
That's no sham. The car is designed to be used mostly in EV mode. As Rory said, most drivers commute less than 21 miles per day. The EV range was 42 miles. Its reasonable that fuel efficiency is based on the average use for which the vehicle is intended.
They always miss out the vital words...as tested under strict conditions. I've no doubt it can achieve the claimed figures under test conditions, but yes, in real life, it won't get close to the claims most of the time. I've had a C350e for 4 years now - much smaller battery, bigger car, bigger ICE, on a run I get high 40s/low 50s, starting with a 'flat' battery. Going to the shops, it uses no petrol at all. My point is, it's incredibly sensitive to how you drive it. Put it in Sport and drive it hard and you'll see low 30s. In some ways a hybrid is both best & worst of both worlds - they are more complicated and heavier, but are versatile. Depends if that matters to a buyer or not I guess. Wish my C350e had the same battery capacity though! It's a pathetic 6.3kWh
@@desmondroberts6034 You're falling victim to marketing hype hook line and sinker...
This presumes the driver is always using the full range to zero power before you switch to petrol. All the weight and space of an ice and a tiny EV range. Plugins will be the next after hybrids to lose any subsidy and EV incentive. Remember its merc giving you the ev range not even the absurd official wltp tests. Prefer to see range extender pushed so the ice engine is just there to recharge the battery like the i3 RE. Phev is better suited to trucks where geo fencing would mean they run in ev mode in city centres/passing schools-creches and switch to charging once in the motorway until battery tech or hydrogen fuel can dump diesel
I've just had a demonstrator. I did an 80 mile journey (40 miles to my destination and returned the same route) consisting of 22 miles of A road and 18 miles motorway each way. The car did 34 miles of pure electric on the A road (22 miles) and motorway (12 miles) before running out and the rest of the journey on petrol (so 48 miles on petrol getting me back home on the same return route) and the resulting MPG was 72.8mpg overall. Remember that when using the petrol engine it just charge the batteries as much as it can so the car said I did 38 miles electric by the end of the journey as it does assist the engine with batteries as and when it can. I hope that makes sense, the petrol engine gve me pretty good mpg on it's own when on the motorway, anywhere between 45-75mpg depending on hills and so on. If I was going for longer journey's then I would factor in stops for quick recharging. Nice car overall, average modern build quality and try out the seats before ordering as they might be too small for the larger person. I'm average build and only just coped with squeezing between the side bolsters. Accelerates surprisingly well in Sport mode and very low tax if like me, you're ordering as a company car.
That 80mpg in hybrid mode sounds rather crazy to me, when my Volt returns 40ish mpg in hybrid and a Prius Prime is around 55mpg. I have similar EV range to the Merc and my lifetime average is 110mpg, but if I just drove in town I could be getting 1000mpg. So take that 250+mpg figure with a grain of salt, phev mpg figures are determined by how the car is used.
I get 70mpg easy in my cla 250e the use of radar and sat nav brake regen plus cylinder deactivation is maybe what makes the difference. Most journeys I don't use any fuel. I know one owner who still has half a tank left from handover and he got the car in April!
@@scottmurray8483 Well if that's the case it's great to hear.
@Jim fallow what do you mean?
Lol you guys are silly
@@samusaran7317 what do you mean?
Well, here is how it really does after one year. I ordered my a250e about a month after this review and next month I will be driving it for a year. 10,000km (6200m) on the clock. Simply put, if you can charge the a250e at home, it is supreme. Exactly 70% of my kilometers are in electric. 2,7 l/100 km (87mpg). Charging is upgradable, but I got the slowest one. It charges 0-100% in about 6 hours. However, since I plug it at night, it doesn't matter at all and I also get discounted electricity. The bigger displays are a must, all sound systems are excellent, tech inside is glorious, boot space is totally fine, power is very good. There are quite a few places with cheap materials, which is kind of disappointing. Overall, I am overjoyed by my choice even though I am a bit biased towards MB.
Which places do you mean?
Rory has improved so much as a presenter since the Top Gear days!
@LUMEXxBLACK Did I say he was bad at Top Gear? no.
@@HappyEmileHeskey yes
Top gear isn't the place for proper car reviewers Chris Harris reviews pre Top Gear is miles ahead of him on top gear same with Rory
@@aerox69x ye
Brilliant informative well put together! I moaned on about the silly recent 6x6 video ranting about this is where top gear got wasteful and childish. Got informed about what a 250e is and enjoyed Rory’s presentation. Thanks auto trader. 👍🏼
Loving the Yachtmaster, Rory!
As for the electric, you can get up to 60km range (tested). But the low overall consumption values have to be more realistic. I would prefer an average value after 300km of driving.
Bought one. Did 4 trips this weekend of 90 miles each. First two were motorway. Got 80mpg and 9mpkwh. Second two were A roads and got 50 mpg. You're only getting three figure mpg (or near infinite in electric only) whilst you have battery and you only have battery for 35 miles. Good luck getting 40. Also whilst you have 0 electric range you're running on a tiny limping petrol engine. The good news is that despite its meagre size it is quite good and perfect for cruising and overtaking. With both engines it is a great car and you'll wish you went full electric but not having to deal with the faff of public charging is a major plus for me. As most of my journeys are local I don't use any fuel at all and around town you can expect 4 to 5 mpkwh. If you go comfort mode (not sure why you would) then you can expect 250 to 800 mpg.
Love the car.
Ordered a A200 sedan with night package and premium plus. Would like the 250e but it is too expensive and I couldn't charge it at home. In Portugal, hybrids are a good buy for enterprises but not for individuals really.
I'll lose out on the acceleration but it will be lighter as well
M-Bs have evolved into some nice designs (if a little mundane) and it seems like the company is heading toward a successful future now that they are offering good EV alternatives. For most drivers, a hybrid still seems like the best option but it will be a long while before these cars loose the weight needed to be true sports sedans. Good review as always, love your channel. I wish you would do a video on car colors over the years and explain why all we seem to see on the road anymore is white, black, grey or variations thereof. So bland. I'm in the market for a new car and I plan on buying something in blue, red, or even yellow if it's the right fit for the model.
This car is not bad but I’d rather get the regular a class or CLA
You can get the same drivetrain for the cla
‘Cla 250e
I actually like that there is for once a video with a car that has the smaller screen, kinda to see the difference. All the ads and videos you can find online are with the big screens....
The 2 X 7" displays look like a pair of photo frames waiting for 2 pictures to be popped in,😭
Plug in hybrids are the true future.
I doubt it. Lugging around a gas engine is rather silly in my opinion. A lot of unnecessary weight
I have a civic 1.6 diesel 2016. Just done proper test over 1740 miles of a ,b roads stop start motoring not driving li,e a grandad . Achieved 71mpg . Beat that. On some rons I can get 87mpg , best mpg is 112mpg . An amazing car ghat nobody knows about
I've got an A250e hatchback. My app is showing me as averaging 176.6 mpg since new (July). I do use electric mostly as my commute is about 42 miles return, and this is where the car excels. Def worth paying for the big screens they look so much better especially with the amount of customisation you can have on the displays.
Charge up once, drive a full tank of gas to within 20 miles of empty. Mix stop and go driving with freeway driving for the day. And then tell us what it averages mpg. That's the # I need because I do Rideshare all day and drive 300-350 miles per day.
@@icanmanifest Clearly this isn't the car for you then. Its much more targeted at the daily city commuter than the highway mile muncher. I guess something like a Tesla with a long range battery may be more suitable, depends on how deep your pockets are of course
@@IamTheGit My main point was when plug-in hybrid reviews are done, it’s rare to find someone who says what miles per gallon and got over the full course of a tank of gas used up in one day versus charging multiple times.
It's unfortunate that automakers need to have a smaller screen version and "lower end" versions of everything for their cheaper cars. It's probably financially cheaper for them to just all use the same screen in ALL of their cars, but people who spend more money would be pissed if something that costs way less also has the same quality of materials and hardware. Automakers are already cutting costs by throwing in the exact same engine in a bunch of their cars. I wonder how long until every car gets the same everything.
Rory, I’m happy to see you upgraded your wrist game. Good choice, it suits you well. @AutoTrader is treating you well 👍
Love the road you use for these videos, been driving on it for years 👌
And where is this road.... I need a good new driving road.
@@jermainen7846 on and around the B560 in Bedfordshire
@@wackeyhorizon ooooooh Bedfordshire I live near there
Actually, the info at 3:40 is wrong. When you start with an empty battery, the car will still function as a "regular" hybrid car. It will not just drag an empty battery and electric motor around. Thus it would still consume much less gas as an A200 with only the 1.3 liter engine.
It still does 50mpg on the motorway petrol alone. And it has 30 miles range available battery for everyday driving and in sport you get 212bhp and a great 0-60. How more perfect can a car get?
Hi Rory would love to see a review of the BMW 530e hybrid.. plug in Hybrids are awesome cars 💯
Awesome Rolex !!!
"a sad little pipe that lives underneath" :D
Is this car ever coming to the U.S? I love PHEV and currently have a A35 AMG 👍
The bigger screen's option is must!!!!!
To save you having to watch the entire video, he got around 80mpg in hybrid mode.
Thanks for the good review! Looking at these so really useful, probably lacks the torque of the 200D, that would be my only concern so need to go test drive one soon!!
I live in Lincoln and the hatch is fucking everywhere
the charging connector is missing at least one pin !
in the netherlands we want 3 phase 400volt charging 3ph plus neutral plus earth on every plug in or full electric car !
It does have third tier fast charge, he just didn’t use it in the video.
fast charge i will use as little as possible, so for us 11kw charging at home is very important !!!!!
Hey Rory, I was distracted by that lovely new Rolex on your wrist. I couldn't think about the car just the watch! Nice watch!
what is that display setting!!
Got the vw golf gte, same concept. Really love it the best in both and really enjoyable!
CLA hybrid would be a better buy. Any review for that?
They probably chose this because it’s the cheapest Mercedes for buyers of electrified vehicles
It's really mean of mercedes to fit those small 7 inch screens. 10 inch screens must cost them about 50p more. In fact they probably make nothing on them because they have to write software for two screen sizes.
The bezels on the screens are not attractive
Does the car have the same options as a full petrol A250? Lane Keep Assist? Emergency Braking, Sun Roof?
Do Mercedes plug in hybrid also do self charging?
Does it have a good regenerative system? Or is the battery useless once it runs out?
Does this come as a wagon? We get the wagon in Canada and it would be good for that to trickle here (y)
Golf8 gte or this? Currently running a 7.5gte but about to change to something. 330e g20 maybe as well?
I can see the upgrade nice watch 👌
Not car related but anyone know what watch he's wearing?
Rolex Yachtmaster
@@aaronthomas89 Salute to you, thanks
So what is the range in full battery and tank fuel..? Once
isn't it dangerous in a a serious rear end Collision with the fuel tank so far back.
Can someone explain the following case:
- Pure Benzin version goes "100x km" with full tank.
- How much "x km" will the hybrid version can drive with one full tank, if there is no charge in the battery and we are in the long trip?
I am just trying to understand, for people who are also doing long trips (~1000 km), its still make sense to go with Hybrid version over the petrol one.
Much appreciate if someone explain this.
Thanks!
Does anyone know what he difference is between the normal AMG on and exec edition?
Nice that it's hybrid. Hopefully reduce the anti social behaviour from A Class drivers in London.
The fact that "if you don't charge the battery, you won't get the announced mileage" is no catch. By that logic, an ICE car with an announced range of 1,000 miles will never get there if you don't fill up the tank...
Just ordered a CLA250E Premium Plus.....those small screens look horrendous
Lets say i have 10% battery left and i want to switch just to normal engine so to petrol only how do i do that I couldn’t do it in mine
2:35 so you mean 3 inches is a lot?
Am I the only one thinking previous generation A250 is much better???
Only if Top gear kept Rory, Matt Leblanc and hired Matt Watson from Carwow I feel like it would have made the show a bit tolerable and fun
Agreed, the 2 new guys are very difficult to understand with those bloody accents and it makes watching TG intolerable.
Can the petrol engine charge the batteries in this phev? (while driving)
That duo screen is killing me
Mine gets delivered January
It’s very popular in Doncaster and wantirna
The design looks kinda awkward tbh, dunno why. It's not as minimalistic and elegant as other models I guess :)
Yea I mean I’d rather get a CLA
Can this car fast charge or be updated to fast charge ?
Would this hybrid come in the GLA anytime soon Rory?
Yes, this platform goes to the cla (both versions), b class, and gla.
This won’t appear in the glb since the glb is a seven seater
I have a bmw 530e and although most of my journeys are within 35 miles I have done a few long trips, I get well over 100mpg and not put petrol in the car since early March.
It is a plugin hybrid which means it drags the weight of the engine, transmission and petrol when uses electric motor, and drags the weight of an electric motor and a battery when it uses the engine.
Rory and Autotrader has become a true and worthy competitor to carwow.
Hello there. I'm interested in leasing this car and I'm not sure if I should go for AMG Line pack or upgrade to Executive pack.
On Mercedes website it says that the AMG Line comes with a 7 inch display infotainment system and no parking sensors whereas the Executive pack comes with a 10 inch display and parking sensors included. I'm not sure if these are valid for the PHEV versions as well. Would you be able to confirm the below 2 points for the PHEV versions please?
1. AMG Line - no parking sensors and 7 inch display;
2. AMG Line Executive - parking sensors included and 10 inch display.
Are the above 2 points correct?
Thanks so much!
In mine the AMG line, it has 7 inch screen with reversing camera and parking senses at the back of the car, I don't think there are any at the front whilst reversing but there maybe I just haven't had time to play with it enough yet.
Guys, could you actually just carry on without needing to charge the car at a plug point? As in, are the batteries self charging via the petrol engine?
PHEV is where it's at.
It really is. The best option for many people.
Unbelievable Mercedes gave him the model without the full size screens lol
I had one for 4 days last week. On a 100mile trip I averaged 118mpg and around 90mpg on a similar trip driving with more ahem gusto. No matter how long it charged it never started more than 36 miles electric only range on 100% charge. I found the brake regen to be very useful and was great that the system could be increased or decreased.
I had a premium spec version and whilst it was well equipped it lacked things like auto high beam and radar cruise control.
Have I ordered one - well no I think it is still too much of a premium over the normal petrol A class for the driving I do and I am waiting for the new A3 phev to arrive at my local dealer.
I like the Passat GTE
The a class has egsast tips hibrid or engane
What is the fuel tank capacity
I drive a C-Max hybrid getting 40mpg mixed driving doing Rideshare. Drive 300-350 miles a day many days. All that matters to me is what the hybrid cars get after the plug in battery is depleted. Which often is neglected as a use case in many reviews. The # of electric only miles that go away in the first 30 minutes of my day is a non factor.
Was it 4 magic?
I'm sorry, 256 mpg while treating the electric part like it has no equivalent is deceitful. A Tesla Model 3 gets 134 mpge. The way this is calculated the Model 3 gets infinite mpg. Dumb.
I’m loving hybrid cars, but I would chose the CLA 45 AMG...
Why are these still not available in the US market? United States is one of the biggest auto markets yet all we have are the conventional gas models and straight to EQ EV lineup that's still offers all the restriants and EV offers. If we had these decent plug in hybrid alternatives to bridge the gap I'd be all over this.
Why no mention of pricing other than to say it's "pretty pricey" ?
I start to sweat and look around for gas stations whenever my range goes below 50mi
Yes and when you get there, you need to remember to stop by the right sort of fuel pump. Petrol or diesel? V- petrol or diesel extra or whatever? Then there’s LPG. That’s if there’s not a chaotic queue for the pumps, which is also stressful. And once you’re stuck in a petrol queue, you’re stuck in it. So much easier with a battery car. Just plug in and go for coffee...
You gotta get a verified mark near the channel name.
Close to 500K man!
It’s interesting Mercades are using such a small engine. Other phevs use averagely 2 litre engines. I hope using a 1.3l engine is a sign of increasing efficiency and isn’t too weak.
Decision fatigue will probably stop me from getting a hybrid vehicle. I prefer just fully petrol or electric
Plug-in hybrids tend do be quite expensive, at that price point I'd rather pay a bit more and have a full ev
Can someone tell me why isn't this available in the US?
Because it is too eco friendly! If that was 5.0l V8 then it will be on the US market!
I received my car about a month ago now and I’m comfort mode using electric it’s a dream to drive HOWEVER if there is no issue with my petrol engine then it’s the worst piece of crap I’ve driven and definitely not what I expected from a Mercedes. When in sports mode the car does not utilise both engines, also when trying to accelerate there is a flat spot at time so when you’re trying to pull off quickly we’ll you’re stuck in limbo for a couple of seconds. I’m going to make another appointment with my dealership as if this is the way the car is then I’m getting rid and would recommend anyone avoid it like the plague!
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Im driving a Skoda enyaq 100% electric fir 1 more year and it is marvellous in the city or to go to work but you basically cant go anywhere over the weekend let not say on holiday -Spain where i live has very few public chargers out of the big cities. Im looking for a car i could use on electric mode only on my daily commute (32 kms and i can charge at work) but then can drive 300 kms overbthe weekend and do my 1300 kms trip back to my valley in the Alps, this class A might well be what I will be driving in 1 year from now.
Isn't it obvious that any car would have great fuel usage on a short journey when its running on the battery power?🤔. What's the mpg when it's just using petrol?