There is a secret dialogue with joker if you dont get out church after the countdown, he doesnt detonate it and talks to Batman for a bit before giving him a chance to jump out before it blows up for real.
God created us in his own image but we sinned and broke that image so now we deserve hell but God wanted a way of forgiveness so he took on the form of man suffered on the cross for the forgiveness of sins that whoever repents of his sins and puts his faith in jesus christ can be saved to get that forgiveness u have to repent of ur sins put ur faith in jesus christ follow him and rely on his finished work on the cross and not ur own works to be saved repentence first means realising ur a sinner who needs Gods help then u change ur mind about sin realising its disgusting before God and u let him help u to stop doing sin putting ur faith in jesus means u do his commandments which u can know about in the bible loving jesus means to do his commandments but u have to be careful first of all u dont know when ur gonna die so come to God and repent today and that jesus is the only way to heaven the only truth and the only life and we can go to heaven bc of what he did on the cross not bc of our own works so ur good works dont get u to heaven its only bc if what jesus did on the cross but that doesnt mean u live a life of sin no u live a life pleasing to God having a true relationship with him but u trust in what jesus did on the cross and not ur own works that can get u to heaven jesus loves u and he can give u eternal life repent today@@Guyinthetie
The reason why Batman was gonna prioritize Talia and not Gotham was because he's in love with her. Oracle did say "What's with that woman to be the center of your world". Plus, the romantic tension they had when you go meet her. Batman may try to be perfect but he's still human and make mistakes.
@@GuyinthetieI actually think a multi stranded story choice would have been good there but perhaps time constraints? Also Talia is the worst thing about City, terribly written and if you're not up on the lore (which I certainly was not at the time) you're left thinking, who? Why? Why do i care?
I get that but this is a batman that's been in the job a good few years, it comes across so out of character and when she does die he seems more concerned with the jokers death then hers
@@GuyinthetieI don't see it that way to be honest. Firstly, it was just a moment of weakness, experience or not. There are emotions you can never outgrow, that's how we are. Alfred also said that deep down he knew he was right. Secondly, about the Joker part as you said he has been in the job a good few year. The Joker is a much bigger deal in his life than Talia. It was as if he had lost a piece of himself. Well, sure, he loves Talia, but that's The Joker. And we didn't see everything that happened, maybe the assassins took her during the fight, so he didn't even get the chance. Let me know what you think.
@@GuyinthetieGod created us in his own image but we sinned and broke that image so now we deserve hell but God wanted a way of forgiveness so he took on the form of man suffered on the cross for the forgiveness of sins that whoever repents of his sins and puts his faith in jesus christ can be saved to get that forgiveness u have to repent of ur sins put ur faith in jesus christ follow him and rely on his finished work on the cross and not ur own works to be saved repentence first means realising ur a sinner who needs Gods help then u change ur mind about sin realising its disgusting before God and u let him help u to stop doing sin putting ur faith in jesus means u do his commandments which u can know about in the bible loving jesus means to do his commandments but u have to be careful first of all u dont know when ur gonna die so come to God and repent today and that jesus is the only way to heaven the only truth and the only life and we can go to heaven bc of what he did on the cross not bc of our own works so ur good works dont get u to heaven its only bc if what jesus did on the cross but that doesnt mean u live a life of sin no u live a life pleasing to God having a true relationship with him but u trust in what jesus did on the cross and not ur own works that can get u to heaven jesus loves u and he can give u eternal life repent today
@@tamas21145God created us in his own image but we sinned and broke that image so now we deserve hell but God wanted a way of forgiveness so he took on the form of man suffered on the cross for the forgiveness of sins that whoever repents of his sins and puts his faith in jesus christ can be saved to get that forgiveness u have to repent of ur sins put ur faith in jesus christ follow him and rely on his finished work on the cross and not ur own works to be saved repentence first means realising ur a sinner who needs Gods help then u change ur mind about sin realising its disgusting before God and u let him help u to stop doing sin putting ur faith in jesus means u do his commandments which u can know about in the bible loving jesus means to do his commandments but u have to be careful first of all u dont know when ur gonna die so come to God and repent today and that jesus is the only way to heaven the only truth and the only life and we can go to heaven bc of what he did on the cross not bc of our own works so ur good works dont get u to heaven its only bc if what jesus did on the cross but that doesnt mean u live a life of sin no u live a life pleasing to God having a true relationship with him but u trust in what jesus did on the cross and not ur own works that can get u to heaven jesus loves u and he can give u eternal life repent today
Asylum is my favorite in the series. Because the game was confined to a specific location it made the experience EXTREMELY personal. There was no distractions, no contrivances, no room for error. Only… the Batman. Plus the menu design, legend of Arkham, atmosphere and cast of villains was all just the cherry on top. I promise you if Asylum had the combat of the newer games I would NEVER touch the sequels ever again. P.s. - the only complaint I have was the undercooked boss fights.
Agreed, except for the fact that Asylum does have garbage boss fights. Open world games can be fun and have a shitload of content, but I’m about sick of every game having to be open world. A well thought out game with a focused vision and deliberate pacing often leaves a bigger impact than a sprawling open area to explore.
I really wish asylum got a remake in ue5 with more content imagine a challenge where you have to play hide and seek with killer croc in the sewers@@Guyinthetie
In the opening section of the game where you are walking as Bruce Wayne through line A the thug in front of you forms a finger gun at you while saying "Wayne, you're on my list" That's Deadshot, who's side mission details how he had a list of political prisoners to assassinate, one of whom was Bruce Wayne You can also find Azrael watching you from above as you're to greet Jack Rdyer in the opening section Edit: To be fair what makes the Zsasz mission compelling & memorable is the way his backstory was expertly written, directed, & voice acted
A great word that’s used to describe the difference between Arkham Asylum and City would be the atmosphere. City to me still felt very comic booky, but the atmosphere of the asylum was missing. The third main character beyond Batman and the Joker was the asylum itself
the reason only joker was dying was because he shot the titan dart directly into his blood stream (via his neck) and he overdosed on it, that's also why he was the biggest titan compared to the others.
I played it for the first time recently and I have to say, it's a truly special game. But, I don't understand why it's called a masterpiece. Mainly the story, it's great, but it feels too simple to be a masterpiece.
Simple stories often make the best art. Not always, but often. Just look at Romero and Juliet, or any Shakespeare really. It all comes down to the execution/presentation.
I’m in complete agreement on my first play through as a kid the game felt like an outright improvement over asylum, but as an adult I just find that a certain vibe that asylum provided was not felt during city and honestly felt more of this during certain moments of knight, despite knight having a very different visual aesthetic and overall tone in and of itself
To me, the main problem with the side quests is that they're mostly random: you randomly find Hush's victims, you randomly find Azrael, you randomly get Oracle tell you about Deadshot. It would have been great if every one of them was like the Mad Hatter one: he appears in a main cutscene, immediately after the quest triggers and you have a reason tied to the main story to go there. I'd also make them mandatory, without side and main objectives (only the very loose ones should be optional, like the political prisoners getting beat, which you find anyway while flying around to your destination and doesn't lead you on a completely different trail for a while, and the Riddler's trophy, that should start his hostages quest only after you found every single one and every riddle [maybe make a little less?]. Also Zsasz could interfere and make all the phone calls in one go, making you fly around the city frantically and immediately get him. You could find Hush and Deadshot's victims right out of main story buildings after you've completed them, and organically solve those quests, and so on). I guess the objective was to make you feel the complete anarchy of a city run by criminals by putting stones in your way, but what's the drama about if you can just skip those for later? Think about Batman dying from Joker's blood and finding Hush's trail, deciding that he wants to get him because of how mad the idea he's a killer made him; or, that dialogue about him may be the killer after Ra's al Ghul and Mad Hatter hallucinations. P.S.: I disagree on the contradictory behaviour some characters have, I find it really interesting. First, we see that Batman is really nervous from the get go: he opposes Arkham City so much that he put his civil persona on the line and aslo witnessed how Strange is basically omnipotent, putting whoever he wants into the City because he uses a private organization as police; also, going on you find out Strange is funding the criminal warfare to activate Protocol 10; ALSO, you get hallucinated a lot, your blood is poisoned, people are betraying you from every corner. If Batman at the beginning is so pissed off he abuses Harley while she's crying the (fake) Joker's death, at the end he can't take it anymore and just flips. However, we understand he takes a hold of himself again while going through Wonder Tower. Also, Batman's monologue about Joker being recidive logically leads to him not saving him this time, and Joker is way too happy to acknowledge he sees the world like him for once. He dies becaues he doesn't believe in people, whereas Batman would have saved him anyway. Also, that "you wanna hear somethin' funny" as Joker is dying is really moving to me. Also the plot twist about Strange being Ra's puppet works for me: cleansing the world from the scum with genocide is Ra's mission in general, so we don't have two villains doing the exact same thing because they're not very creative, but working in tandem. This doesn't diminish Strange because he has different reasons to do it: while Ra's want to cleanse the world as fast as he can, because after six hundred years he's starting to lose his mind and Batman won't take his place, so he has to find another successor or just blow up everyone he doesn't like, Strange does it to defeat Batman on his own playground and trying to demonstrate how his methods are ineffective comparated to his. Strange wants the glory and reputation, Ra's wants to fulfill a personal objective. Strange motivations and actions feel also similar to The Riddler, but he's different too because he fights Batman on a more abstract intellectual level, and most importantly, he cheats a lot. Strange is actually doing the stuff, Riddler is looking for the short way. I understand though that one major problem already Asylum had and this game elevates to maximum power is that contextualization isn't mandatory: you don't understand Penguin and Joker's feud unless you solve the riddles, you don't get the Catwoman-Two Face background in the same way, you also don't get any of Strange confrontations with other villains unless you do side stuff, although those registrations explain a lot of the characters and of Strange himself. Without getting any of it, you just flow from one villain to another; a situation Asylum brilliantly solved making the general atmosphere looking like a long nightmare and emphasizing the villain's symbolic nature (Scarecrow is fear, Croc is rage, Harley is madness, Joker is chaos, Ivy is misanthropy, as all the Asylum is a place where the sins of humanity are hidden from the public). Getting that contextualization throughout the game makes the story much more exciting and deep, while making it optional just makes it nearly useless. It seems to me Rocksteady was way too focused to abide to games' standards and create a perfect videogame, instead of a perfect experience (let's not forget they were born over the ashes of another failed game development studio, they definitely found in this saga their redemption).
Dr Stacy Baker mentions that Titan has infected the Jokers blood and that is what is killing him. He took the Titan at the end if Asylum soooo I think the developers thought we already knew the context of what happened in the Asylum for us to understand the story. Hope this helps
This game is probably my favourite game of all time and there's no way I'd rank it below Asylum. Yes it is partially because I played this game first and also got it as a birthday present from my brother, but I also just think it is the better game. Open-world is really fun to explore, especially after you get the grapnel boost upgrade, I prefer the game not looking as cartoony as well. Henchmen with guns are not as weakened as you say, since they introduce stuff like landmines, thermal goggles and disruptors which make things more difficult and force you to re-strategize. Having more gadgets also make encounters more fun as you have more options. I think the story's really cool even if it has a few problems, but the Joker twist is done really well. Also I cannot for the life of me agree with your take on the side missions since they are clearly explained to be side missions, you can do them whenever you want and are optional. If they tried to tie all of that stuff into the main story it would be a mess. I can agree that some of the side missions aren't that great (Deadshot's is mostly good it's just the boss that sucks) but they allow for interesting gameplay changes as well as exposure to other characters. Zsasz' is really cool because of the story it tells with him explaining his backstory. It can also easily be done in spurts rather than all the phone calls after one another, making it less repetitive. That's also something I like, the fact that most of the missions can be developed on here and there, once you start one you don't have to complete it right away. Also this game introduced the slide, something I use a ton for combat and mobility. I always find it a tad annoying to play Asylum without it.
The slide is a mainstay for sure! If only to get through vents faster haha, the side missions I get what you mean but they feel hollow to me like they were added last minute for extra content rather than being fleshed out mini stories if that makes sense
Hes blind to the fact tal al ghoul is trying to manipulate him and get him to let that happen cause hes in love with her plus the cure is there so of course he a bit selfish its not cause hes insane its cause hes human sometimes people do dumb things or want to do dumb things thats why oracle and Alfred are like bro calm the hell down and go beat up her pappi
I’ve felt that way about this game compared to Asylum for years, City is great but Asylum is just so much tighter and feels so much more unique and fun than City imo. Asylum just scratches my Batman fan itch more than City, even with its more simple gameplay. I enjoyed City’s twist and turns in its story, but Asylum as a whole made sense and was asatisfying story despite its simplicity. Plus the more stripped down gameplay in Asylum felt more Batman-like in how truly careful you had to be, which kinda goes away in future games I feel.
Wow really surprised people have the same opinion as me on this! Thank you for taking the time to write out your thoughts! Always a pleasure to read 💪🏻
you may have missed this but the reason joker was dying so slowly and batman was dying so quickly was because batman and joker had different blood types, everything you see in batman's face lines up with signs of the wrong blood/a bad blood transfusion.
batman arkham asylum had a better exploration and atmosphere, but city had a redefined gameplay, while i prefer the limited arsenal from asylum in stealth sections when the thugs were actually dangerous with guns
I liked that there is a little hint of the joker enfection with there being a laugh while batman beats up freeze also loved that batman used talias sword to beat clayface
The Zsasz side quest interesting note: If you manage to get the bar filling uninterrupted, it will actually stop before Zsasz finishes, so the game soft locks you to finding more phones
Asylum all day long was my fave when i played them all through first time and even after all this time still has a unique feel never matched. Great video as expected will be waiting patiently for the next. Good work dude.
i didn’t know this was a small youtuber i cannot lie this is probably the most enjoyable content i’ve seen on youtube in a while, keep this style it’s amazing😘
26:48 It's because Joker injected the Titan into his chin, and also the Titan mixed with the Chemicals from Ace Chemicals we definitely NOT a good combination...
@@Guyinthetie Also, although I love City, and it's my third favorite, I also hate that Batman basically straight up says "I ain't stopping Protocol Ten till I get that Taliussy." Even though I like most of the story and plot points... That part just never sat well with me...
City/asylum (I couldn’t pick) Origins (I just love the Christmas theme) Knight (not saying it’s bad, I actually spent the most on this game I think, and I still enjoy playing it)
Also, what happened to Hugo Strange saying that if Batman tried to stop him he would reveal his secret identity? I’m pretty sure that never comes up again.
Revealing it publicly wouldn't do anything to stop Batman from trying to stop Protocol Ten. Strange, due to his obsession with Batman, likely wanted him to fail at stopping Protocol Ten first, and then reveal him as Bruce Wayne for ultimate humiliation.
For me… 1 - Arkham Knight, because of the cool costumes, fun challenges and racing segments that I always keep on returning and have fun with and multiple characters to play as with their own costume! 2 - Arkham Asylum, a timeless classic and the OG of the series and so many nostalgia when I was lil tween 3 - Arkham City was on 2 for me when I was lil, but after Arkham Knight, it was a ok, yet nostalgic experience
I'm loving seeing asylum quite high in these comments! And I don't remember much of knight so I'm excited to give that another go for a video, after origins
idk if someone has already said that in comment section below, but i think Joker stab Batmans hand in the ending because he wanted him to loose, and technichally save him
They both have their ups and their downs. More positives than negatives to be quite honest. I think when we played this at a young age, we took it differently and now, playing at an older age. We see the fine details kind of like fine wine. The biggest thing I enjoyed the most from Arkham city is. How many characters from the comic books there period to me? Made Arkham city a tad bit higher on the fun level playing the video games. I really hope you will do Arkham Knight
So I bought both games second hand last month and played through both consecutively. I played them at a friend’s house when I was younger but I never played the entire game until now. I like the combat system and the random chatter amongst goons in city. The big map does add something but I prefer the map in asylum. The side quests in city fall short but I do like that the riddler actually appears in city and his rooms are really fun to get through (you should’ve mentioned the riddler rooms). But overall I agree that less was more in asylum and the atmosphere was just was better. If asylum had city’s combat system it would be as close to perfection as a game could be.
Completely agree with you on this! Didn't really mention the rooms for riddler as I'm not a fan of collectibles so I didn't really experience them, I liked asylum cause it was smaller to find the trophy's and you get the puzzles in each room here it's just a collect fest
That makes more sense, just wished that was voiced when he was taking to Alfred and oracle cause all he says is he must save Talia.. comes across like he's thinking with the 🍆
Something that annoys me about the clayface twist is that detective vision says joker is dead, the flatline they just wouldnt hook up but how tf did they fool detective mode
Goddamnit that Batman Animated ending song caught me the first time for the nostalgia. Then it caught me AGAIN after Harv shoots Selina. I feel ashamed.
I got this game when I was about 10 years old, it was the 3rd game I'd ever gotten for the ps3 from my uncle (and at this point my mum was very anti M rated stuff but she let me play this one as it was a gift), I never played asylum by this point and didn't realise it was a trilogy until Arkham knight came out when I was older (don't judge me my ps3 was the faster computer in that house by this point and only played through the story) but jesus christ this game was great it was my first major introduction to batman and it was great. I've since gone back and played asylum, and played city again, played through knight again not saying the side content is better than asylum or knight. But the story alone is worth it. Asylum definitely has the best story overall, knight has the best gameplay (the tank can get annoying at points but it's still fun and done well enough) but overall batman Arkham city is a great combo of both gameplay and a better story than knight overall. Return to arkham did improve on the gameplay a bit on ps4 so theres that too
Beautiful video! congrats on 2k now! I think Arkham City has many and I mean many improvements upon Asylum. However, because of its risker and bigger approach of a sequel, it also has far far bigger flaws. Catwoman's missions felt like one of those. They never came in the perfect moment and always felt like they interrupted Bat-man's story as you stated.
Thank you so much for the kind words 🙏🏻 yes I feel like cat women was only put into the main plot to sell the DLC / MINT copies not sure if this was a developer decision or a publisher one but it hurts the quality of her playtime so much!
Crazy that Rocksteady could release this game only two years after asylum and yet they delivered trash after 9 year with kill the justice league. Goes to show, corporate greed truly does destroy creativity.
i just replayed this game after about a half a decade and it was so much fun. I really had an extra sense of appreciation after the suicide squad debacle.
I like city more then asylum since i liked the combat better and the part at the beginning where you play as brucey was good also love that they introduced the grapple boost thing even tho its only a little boost but i hate that they trapped bane in a cage like he couldn't break that shit woulve been awesome to have a bane boss fight
Really excited for when you get to Arkham Origins next. That game was definitely underrated when it first came out. More recently however people have gone back to this game and have praised it for its great story and amazing performances and it has in my opinion the second best story in the series with the first being Arkham City. It also has the best and most accurate depiction of Bane ever outside the comics.
4:39 You say that as if the money from sales even goes to the developers at all lmao. All that money goes straight to the publisher, and the devs will be lucky to see a sinlge cent of that extra revenue. There's a reason game developers often live game-to-game meanwhile the big studio executives live in houses worth tens or even hundreds of millions. The industry is corrupt.
I agree, as someone who used to recruit in the game industry I know how hard it is for the guys on the front lines on the titles, maybe I should of been more specific and say publishers rather then developers pushing the new sales. Tha is for the feedback 💪🏻👔
The whole reason Batman didnt care about protocol 10 was because if he didnt stop the Joker he thought he would gain immortality and Talia would also die.
City’s and Asylum’s main story both end roughly halfway to 100% - that’s my biggest gripe. I’m working on my 3rd 100% at the moment after first playing about a year ago. Between my first and second play throughs of both, I played Knight about 75 times. Now I like City much more, ironically because of the difficulty of getting 100%. I now think all three games are equally good. Flawed yes, but still addictive and gripping.
Never played any of the Batman games 💀 at least I get to experience what they are like through these videos of yours dude. Also have to admit ‘two guns bitch’ is one hell of a line 😂
Well put together video and you've earned my subscription, but I have two things I disagree with. 1. Batman reacting that way to the possibility of Talia's death isn't weird when you realize that he actually loves her in this universe, so his out-of-character reaction is rather a telltale of how deeply he cares for her. 2. Never saw Ra's-Al-Ghul as the main villain, it's Joker - again. The chaos of Protocol 10 also makes more sense for Ra's and not Hugo Strange. He wasn't okay with Protocol 10 since he was actually trying to stop it the entire game? It was one moment of weakness. Other than that, great assessment man, I look forward to checking out the rest of the content you put out!
Brilliant thoughts and I can see what you mean with Talia but I still hate the ra's plot twist.. I feel like if we didn't go fight him for the cure it would work far better and be way more surprising Thank you for taking the time to write out your thoughts always great to read them 💪🏻
@Guyinthetie thanks a ton, man! Looking forward to seeing more of your videos, I'll check out your Arkham Asylum video too, I've always felt like it was a more "complete" Batman experience than any of the other games.
One thing you didn't mention was what a mess they made of the menus compared to Arkham Asylum. I had 0 complaints about the menus in Asylum and didn't mind spending time browsing through them, but in Arkham City I basically have nothing but complaints. - The character profiles are mostly just copied and pasted from Asylum. - The character models are in-game 3D models instead of the custom 2D artwork in Asylum. - Instead of finding interview tapes in the overworld and listening to them as you unlock them, you have to complete a row of riddler challenges to unlock each one. Not only does this mean that you'll unlock them very late into the game, but you also have to visit the specific tab in the Riddler menu with the completed row in order to unlock the tape, and there is nothing to indicate that you can or should do this. In other words, you'll probably unlock many tapes all at once and have to listen to them all in a row, which isn't as interesting as spacing them out. The tapes are also more about the story of Arkham City specifically, unlike Asylum where they felt more like a showcase of the personalities of the game's villains. - Solving riddles in City unlocks backstory about Arkham City instead of character profiles. Each riddle is tied to a specific story, some of which are split into multiple parts across different riddles, making it really difficult to make sense of what you're reading. - The upgrade screen is split into multiple tabs, and most of the space is taken up by things you already have unlocked from the start of the game, or stuff that you unlock automatically as you go, which makes it hard to find what you're looking for. I always thought Arkham Asylum was the best game in the series. The story was simplicity itself; the Joker is running Arkham Asylum and you have to catch him. The game fills the available space perfectly, giving you nothing more or less than the entire Arkham Asylum to roam around in. It also allows multiple villains to take part with no contrivances required, as you would expect to run into any one of them in the Asylum. Arkham City on the other hand starts with the borderline nonsensical notion of Strange's Arkham City project, and in the City you get to visit such places as... a museum, a courthouse, a chuch and a steel mill? It's not exactly exciting to explore such locations compared to Arkham Asylum, which is a location anybody will recognize and associate with Batman in an instant. And while Asylum might get flak for the execution of the final boss fight with Joker, it is at least conceptually strong, in contrast to the final fight with an out-of-nowhere Clayface, which might be stronger in execution, but a weak concept for a final boss overall (even if the twist is good). I also agree that the side missions are mostly annoying and take away from the focus and stakes of the story. Nothing like trying to reach a Riddler trophy while being simultaneously taunted by a nearby goon and being stalked by a Tyger helicopter, while the game is giving you instructions on how to use the grapnel boost and Zsasz's phone rings in the distance. Talk about distracting. It's not a bad game; they made improvements to the gameplay and the Mr. Freeze fight was cool. But overall I found it disappointing compared to Arkham Asylum, which I never get tired of playing.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I loved the setting of Arkham City's highly militarized urban gang warfare. Sure, I guess the locations you visit aren't inherently unique and distinctive, but I thought it was pretty cool to go through them and see how they've been taken over by the gangs; Penguin's exhibits in his museum, Two-Face's show trial at the courthouse, and Joker's Funland in the steel mill.
Arkham City > Arkham Asylum I don't think one is better than the other. But I like the story of City more than Asylum. Although plot of a wild goose chase in city (the cure) Is a bit undercooked.
It was a phenomenal game and has aged well and do still play it today, but it wasn’t my favourite. Arkham knight was my top one and origins followed that. I would however truly love to see a Batman from year one, with batcave and Wayne mayor interactions.
When the pay off is such a nothing burger yes, Deadshot literally cries and then gets taken out with 1 take down in a nothing stealth section it's undercooked
Asylum > City STRICTLY because of the aesthetic, like I feel like city did everything better gameplay wise and I'm really happy they leaned into the movement of batman, but I do agree with the video on how there was a little bit of a comic book charm lost when it comes to the transition in between games. Also love the video I've been consuming everything batman recently and this video honestly deserves a lot more attention because it is set up really nice
This is awesome seeing people agree with me on this! Felt like I was going crazy replaying this game cause something just felt slightly off the entire game
@@Guyinthetie Yes, but credit where credit is due, Asylum certainly has that comic book feel that City just doesn’t. City feels more like Batman: GTA, which isn’t exactly a bad thing, but I guess it ultimately comes down to personal preference in that regard.
The fear takedowns look cool and I kept trying to do a double takedown in knight as they still put thugs together like the game wants you to do it but yeah it's gone 😭
Originally i preferred Asylums tighter world and creepy story but ive recently found myself only really wanting to replay City and Origins (only the story) and sometimes Knight. I think Arkham City is an incredibly designed sandbox masterpiece that gets better the more times i replay it. I love Knight too except the tank battles which spoil the pacing in their design....sadly.
Great breakdown of the game! Honestly may be a hot take but I actually think this game is overrated. Sure it’s really really good but I don’t think it’s FANTASTIC. I still can’t decide what my favorite Arkham game is because each have so many good things about them. Excited for the rest of the series breakdown!
Also I'm sure the only side missions that show up before going to the Steel Mill are Zsaaz, Azrael and the Ar challenges. Deadshot and Bane show up wen going to the Gcpd and Riddler and Hush show up wen u go to the Museum.
Bane and Deadshot were before jokers steel mill the others you are right are after the museum except freeze's wife that's after wonder city and the boss fight
joker is sick because he is a hardtime addict of mystery chemicals and the titan reacted with his blood which is making him like the guy that was blasted with radiation and kept alive for 2 months
tone-wise the series lost a lof of grit that was present in Asylum but City has the best gameplay and challenge maps, Origins is a close second because of mostly being the same, in some aspects they did learn from what people liked about City
I loved city so much more than any of the other 3 games but recently it hasn’t been as good and my thoughts have changed drastically about each since. But I still think that I prefer city>asylum. I can’t wait for origins and then knight review.
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There is a secret dialogue with joker if you dont get out church after the countdown, he doesnt detonate it and talks to Batman for a bit before giving him a chance to jump out before it blows up for real.
Missed this!! Thanks for letting me know, should always let scenes play out on Arkham City it seems
God created us in his own image but we sinned and broke that image so now we deserve hell but God wanted a way of forgiveness so he took on the form of man suffered on the cross for the forgiveness of sins that whoever repents of his sins and puts his faith in jesus christ can be saved to get that forgiveness u have to repent of ur sins put ur faith in jesus christ follow him and rely on his finished work on the cross and not ur own works to be saved repentence first means realising ur a sinner who needs Gods help then u change ur mind about sin realising its disgusting before God and u let him help u to stop doing sin putting ur faith in jesus means u do his commandments which u can know about in the bible loving jesus means to do his commandments but u have to be careful first of all u dont know when ur gonna die so come to God and repent today and that jesus is the only way to heaven the only truth and the only life and we can go to heaven bc of what he did on the cross not bc of our own works so ur good works dont get u to heaven its only bc if what jesus did on the cross but that doesnt mean u live a life of sin no u live a life pleasing to God having a true relationship with him but u trust in what jesus did on the cross and not ur own works that can get u to heaven jesus loves u and he can give u eternal life repent today@@Guyinthetie
@@ralouph3238Amen🖤
@@ralouph3238 buddy nobody gives a shit. Shut your mouth and keep your bs to yourself.
@@ralouph3238 And god put you here to proselytize in RUclips comments eh? Great plan 🫡
The reason why Batman was gonna prioritize Talia and not Gotham was because he's in love with her. Oracle did say "What's with that woman to be the center of your world". Plus, the romantic tension they had when you go meet her. Batman may try to be perfect but he's still human and make mistakes.
I just wish they done more of Brice struggling with the choice rather than letting the city burn without a second thought for Talia
@@Guyinthetie I man can we blame Batman......but seriously that was a left turn he made on that decision
He's in love with her but....bruh, Catwoman?
@@GuyinthetieI actually think a multi stranded story choice would have been good there but perhaps time constraints? Also Talia is the worst thing about City, terribly written and if you're not up on the lore (which I certainly was not at the time) you're left thinking, who? Why? Why do i care?
He wasn't "A-ok" with protocol ten. He just loved Talia more than he cared to stop it.
I get that but this is a batman that's been in the job a good few years, it comes across so out of character and when she does die he seems more concerned with the jokers death then hers
@@GuyinthetieI don't see it that way to be honest.
Firstly, it was just a moment of weakness, experience or not. There are emotions you can never outgrow, that's how we are. Alfred also said that deep down he knew he was right.
Secondly, about the Joker part as you said he has been in the job a good few year. The Joker is a much bigger deal in his life than Talia. It was as if he had lost a piece of himself. Well, sure, he loves Talia, but that's The Joker. And we didn't see everything that happened, maybe the assassins took her during the fight, so he didn't even get the chance.
Let me know what you think.
@@GuyinthetieBatman’s biggest fear is losing those he cares about, which clouds his judgement at that point.
@@GuyinthetieGod created us in his own image but we sinned and broke that image so now we deserve hell but God wanted a way of forgiveness so he took on the form of man suffered on the cross for the forgiveness of sins that whoever repents of his sins and puts his faith in jesus christ can be saved to get that forgiveness u have to repent of ur sins put ur faith in jesus christ follow him and rely on his finished work on the cross and not ur own works to be saved repentence first means realising ur a sinner who needs Gods help then u change ur mind about sin realising its disgusting before God and u let him help u to stop doing sin putting ur faith in jesus means u do his commandments which u can know about in the bible loving jesus means to do his commandments but u have to be careful first of all u dont know when ur gonna die so come to God and repent today and that jesus is the only way to heaven the only truth and the only life and we can go to heaven bc of what he did on the cross not bc of our own works so ur good works dont get u to heaven its only bc if what jesus did on the cross but that doesnt mean u live a life of sin no u live a life pleasing to God having a true relationship with him but u trust in what jesus did on the cross and not ur own works that can get u to heaven jesus loves u and he can give u eternal life repent today
@@tamas21145God created us in his own image but we sinned and broke that image so now we deserve hell but God wanted a way of forgiveness so he took on the form of man suffered on the cross for the forgiveness of sins that whoever repents of his sins and puts his faith in jesus christ can be saved to get that forgiveness u have to repent of ur sins put ur faith in jesus christ follow him and rely on his finished work on the cross and not ur own works to be saved repentence first means realising ur a sinner who needs Gods help then u change ur mind about sin realising its disgusting before God and u let him help u to stop doing sin putting ur faith in jesus means u do his commandments which u can know about in the bible loving jesus means to do his commandments but u have to be careful first of all u dont know when ur gonna die so come to God and repent today and that jesus is the only way to heaven the only truth and the only life and we can go to heaven bc of what he did on the cross not bc of our own works so ur good works dont get u to heaven its only bc if what jesus did on the cross but that doesnt mean u live a life of sin no u live a life pleasing to God having a true relationship with him but u trust in what jesus did on the cross and not ur own works that can get u to heaven jesus loves u and he can give u eternal life repent today
Asylum is my favorite in the series. Because the game was confined to a specific location it made the experience EXTREMELY personal. There was no distractions, no contrivances, no room for error. Only… the Batman.
Plus the menu design, legend of Arkham, atmosphere and cast of villains was all just the cherry on top.
I promise you if Asylum had the combat of the newer games I would NEVER touch the sequels ever again.
P.s. - the only complaint I have was the undercooked boss fights.
Agreed, except for the fact that Asylum does have garbage boss fights. Open world games can be fun and have a shitload of content, but I’m about sick of every game having to be open world. A well thought out game with a focused vision and deliberate pacing often leaves a bigger impact than a sprawling open area to explore.
Literally sharing a brain as this is how I feel!
I really wish asylum got a remake in ue5 with more content imagine a challenge where you have to play hide and seek with killer croc in the sewers@@Guyinthetie
I can’t help but laugh when Bane yells WHAT
I mean that was an epic dodge roll
In the opening section of the game where you are walking as Bruce Wayne through line A the thug in front of you forms a finger gun at you while saying "Wayne, you're on my list"
That's Deadshot, who's side mission details how he had a list of political prisoners to assassinate, one of whom was Bruce Wayne
You can also find Azrael watching you from above as you're to greet Jack Rdyer in the opening section
Edit: To be fair what makes the Zsasz mission compelling & memorable is the way his backstory was expertly written, directed, & voice acted
The whole game is wonderful but I think the first 10 minutes is ny favourite part lol 😂
A great word that’s used to describe the difference between Arkham Asylum and City would be the atmosphere. City to me still felt very comic booky, but the atmosphere of the asylum was missing. The third main character beyond Batman and the Joker was the asylum itself
So true and though I get that the game still has a slight comic feel I don't know Arkham City as a place could be any old run down city slums
Came for Guyinthetie
Stayed for Catwoman and poison ivy....and Guyinthetie
Absolute legend 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
the reason only joker was dying was because he shot the titan dart directly into his blood stream (via his neck) and he overdosed on it, that's also why he was the biggest titan compared to the others.
Thank you 💪🏻👔
I played it for the first time recently and I have to say, it's a truly special game. But, I don't understand why it's called a masterpiece. Mainly the story, it's great, but it feels too simple to be a masterpiece.
Simple stories often make the best art. Not always, but often. Just look at Romero and Juliet, or any Shakespeare really. It all comes down to the execution/presentation.
I’m in complete agreement on my first play through as a kid the game felt like an outright improvement over asylum, but as an adult I just find that a certain vibe that asylum provided was not felt during city and honestly felt more of this during certain moments of knight, despite knight having a very different visual aesthetic and overall tone in and of itself
Crazy how I wasn't the only person who had this experience! Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻
To me, the main problem with the side quests is that they're mostly random: you randomly find Hush's victims, you randomly find Azrael, you randomly get Oracle tell you about Deadshot. It would have been great if every one of them was like the Mad Hatter one: he appears in a main cutscene, immediately after the quest triggers and you have a reason tied to the main story to go there. I'd also make them mandatory, without side and main objectives (only the very loose ones should be optional, like the political prisoners getting beat, which you find anyway while flying around to your destination and doesn't lead you on a completely different trail for a while, and the Riddler's trophy, that should start his hostages quest only after you found every single one and every riddle [maybe make a little less?]. Also Zsasz could interfere and make all the phone calls in one go, making you fly around the city frantically and immediately get him. You could find Hush and Deadshot's victims right out of main story buildings after you've completed them, and organically solve those quests, and so on).
I guess the objective was to make you feel the complete anarchy of a city run by criminals by putting stones in your way, but what's the drama about if you can just skip those for later? Think about Batman dying from Joker's blood and finding Hush's trail, deciding that he wants to get him because of how mad the idea he's a killer made him; or, that dialogue about him may be the killer after Ra's al Ghul and Mad Hatter hallucinations.
P.S.: I disagree on the contradictory behaviour some characters have, I find it really interesting. First, we see that Batman is really nervous from the get go: he opposes Arkham City so much that he put his civil persona on the line and aslo witnessed how Strange is basically omnipotent, putting whoever he wants into the City because he uses a private organization as police; also, going on you find out Strange is funding the criminal warfare to activate Protocol 10; ALSO, you get hallucinated a lot, your blood is poisoned, people are betraying you from every corner. If Batman at the beginning is so pissed off he abuses Harley while she's crying the (fake) Joker's death, at the end he can't take it anymore and just flips. However, we understand he takes a hold of himself again while going through Wonder Tower.
Also, Batman's monologue about Joker being recidive logically leads to him not saving him this time, and Joker is way too happy to acknowledge he sees the world like him for once. He dies becaues he doesn't believe in people, whereas Batman would have saved him anyway. Also, that "you wanna hear somethin' funny" as Joker is dying is really moving to me.
Also the plot twist about Strange being Ra's puppet works for me: cleansing the world from the scum with genocide is Ra's mission in general, so we don't have two villains doing the exact same thing because they're not very creative, but working in tandem. This doesn't diminish Strange because he has different reasons to do it: while Ra's want to cleanse the world as fast as he can, because after six hundred years he's starting to lose his mind and Batman won't take his place, so he has to find another successor or just blow up everyone he doesn't like, Strange does it to defeat Batman on his own playground and trying to demonstrate how his methods are ineffective comparated to his. Strange wants the glory and reputation, Ra's wants to fulfill a personal objective.
Strange motivations and actions feel also similar to The Riddler, but he's different too because he fights Batman on a more abstract intellectual level, and most importantly, he cheats a lot. Strange is actually doing the stuff, Riddler is looking for the short way.
I understand though that one major problem already Asylum had and this game elevates to maximum power is that contextualization isn't mandatory: you don't understand Penguin and Joker's feud unless you solve the riddles, you don't get the Catwoman-Two Face background in the same way, you also don't get any of Strange confrontations with other villains unless you do side stuff, although those registrations explain a lot of the characters and of Strange himself. Without getting any of it, you just flow from one villain to another; a situation Asylum brilliantly solved making the general atmosphere looking like a long nightmare and emphasizing the villain's symbolic nature (Scarecrow is fear, Croc is rage, Harley is madness, Joker is chaos, Ivy is misanthropy, as all the Asylum is a place where the sins of humanity are hidden from the public).
Getting that contextualization throughout the game makes the story much more exciting and deep, while making it optional just makes it nearly useless. It seems to me Rocksteady was way too focused to abide to games' standards and create a perfect videogame, instead of a perfect experience (let's not forget they were born over the ashes of another failed game development studio, they definitely found in this saga their redemption).
Joker took an overdose level of Titan and it mutated when mixed with his DNA
Ah okay is that explained in the game?
It explains Titan poisoning and overdose but I don't remember if they mention anything about it mutating. I thought it was just the overdose. 🤔
It's not an overdose. It's just Joker's tainted blood interacting badly with the TITAN.
Dr Stacy Baker mentions that Titan has infected the Jokers blood and that is what is killing him. He took the Titan at the end if Asylum soooo I think the developers thought we already knew the context of what happened in the Asylum for us to understand the story. Hope this helps
The fact that Arkham Knight got EVEN more purchases during SSKTJLs release makes me happy to be part of the Arkham Fandom
The only good thing SSKTJL did was up the Arkham games sales 💪🏻👔
This game is probably my favourite game of all time and there's no way I'd rank it below Asylum. Yes it is partially because I played this game first and also got it as a birthday present from my brother, but I also just think it is the better game. Open-world is really fun to explore, especially after you get the grapnel boost upgrade, I prefer the game not looking as cartoony as well. Henchmen with guns are not as weakened as you say, since they introduce stuff like landmines, thermal goggles and disruptors which make things more difficult and force you to re-strategize. Having more gadgets also make encounters more fun as you have more options.
I think the story's really cool even if it has a few problems, but the Joker twist is done really well. Also I cannot for the life of me agree with your take on the side missions since they are clearly explained to be side missions, you can do them whenever you want and are optional. If they tried to tie all of that stuff into the main story it would be a mess. I can agree that some of the side missions aren't that great (Deadshot's is mostly good it's just the boss that sucks) but they allow for interesting gameplay changes as well as exposure to other characters. Zsasz' is really cool because of the story it tells with him explaining his backstory. It can also easily be done in spurts rather than all the phone calls after one another, making it less repetitive. That's also something I like, the fact that most of the missions can be developed on here and there, once you start one you don't have to complete it right away.
Also this game introduced the slide, something I use a ton for combat and mobility. I always find it a tad annoying to play Asylum without it.
The slide is a mainstay for sure! If only to get through vents faster haha, the side missions I get what you mean but they feel hollow to me like they were added last minute for extra content rather than being fleshed out mini stories if that makes sense
*12:28* goon number 2: besides in ssktjl he died of a gun so we'll be alright
Hes blind to the fact tal al ghoul is trying to manipulate him and get him to let that happen cause hes in love with her plus the cure is there so of course he a bit selfish its not cause hes insane its cause hes human sometimes people do dumb things or want to do dumb things thats why oracle and Alfred are like bro calm the hell down and go beat up her pappi
Ah so you think Talia was aware of the plan with Hugo strange and Ra's?
I’ve felt that way about this game compared to Asylum for years, City is great but Asylum is just so much tighter and feels so much more unique and fun than City imo. Asylum just scratches my Batman fan itch more than City, even with its more simple gameplay. I enjoyed City’s twist and turns in its story, but Asylum as a whole made sense and was asatisfying story despite its simplicity. Plus the more stripped down gameplay in Asylum felt more Batman-like in how truly careful you had to be, which kinda goes away in future games I feel.
Wow really surprised people have the same opinion as me on this! Thank you for taking the time to write out your thoughts! Always a pleasure to read 💪🏻
After watching your asylum video, I was eagerly awaiting city and seeing this pop up on my home page was a pleasant surprise!
Thank you so much, I find it crazy people get excited for my content like I do for my RUclipsrs I watch 😅
Very happy to see you making this a whole series, here to claim my subscribed before channel blew up card. Keep doing what your doing 🙏
The next one will be very interesting with origins, thank you so much for the support 🙏🏻
you may have missed this but the reason joker was dying so slowly and batman was dying so quickly was because batman and joker had different blood types, everything you see in batman's face lines up with signs of the wrong blood/a bad blood transfusion.
That's makes so much sense! I feel like I must of missed a conversation or something cause it did confuse me why we were dying so quick in comparison
batman arkham asylum had a better exploration and atmosphere, but city had a redefined gameplay, while i prefer the limited arsenal from asylum in stealth sections when the thugs were actually dangerous with guns
The gameplay keeps getting refined with each title but i do feel the story and atmosphere take a hit
I liked that there is a little hint of the joker enfection with there being a laugh while batman beats up freeze also loved that batman used talias sword to beat clayface
*11:06* actually joker tried to take out competition fro batman's heart
The Zsasz side quest interesting note: If you manage to get the bar filling uninterrupted, it will actually stop before Zsasz finishes, so the game soft locks you to finding more phones
So that side content can't be finished if your too good at it 😅
0:36 ngl these renders were fire
I barely played through it again and honestly the side missions are just there to enjoy the world more.
It's nice to have but I feel like they could of been far more utilized in City
Asylum all day long was my fave when i played them all through first time and even after all this time still has a unique feel never matched. Great video as expected will be waiting patiently for the next. Good work dude.
Thank you so much! I greatly appreciate the support 💪🏻
1440p and 60fps for a youtube video is crazy. The effort is insane and more than 2k subs is deserved 100% 🙏
Thank you so much! I feel the better the video quality the less likely you will notice how dumb I sound 😁
Honestly, just wish we could throw bricks in this game Tie.
Just have to make do with throwing harley quinn
Yes. It was really that good
Tru
Did I really see this with a "48 seconds ago" timestamp? Yes, yes I did.
I think you actually saw it go live before I did! thank you so much
i didn’t know this was a small youtuber i cannot lie this is probably the most enjoyable content i’ve seen on youtube in a while, keep this style it’s amazing😘
Thank you so much!! This comment truly made my day 👔
26:48 It's because Joker injected the Titan into his chin, and also the Titan mixed with the Chemicals from Ace Chemicals we definitely NOT a good combination...
That does make sense 🤔
@@Guyinthetie Also, although I love City, and it's my third favorite, I also hate that Batman basically straight up says "I ain't stopping Protocol Ten till I get that Taliussy." Even though I like most of the story and plot points... That part just never sat well with me...
"Only you" always makes me tear up a bit
Black mask was relentlessly shit on by getting beaten constantly in the 3 games
I mean even in HIS game where he was supposed to be the big bad he gets destroyed 🤣
City/asylum (I couldn’t pick)
Origins (I just love the Christmas theme)
Knight (not saying it’s bad, I actually spent the most on this game I think, and I still enjoy playing it)
I forgot origins is Xmas themed, generally excited to give that game another shot 💪🏻
Also, what happened to Hugo Strange saying that if Batman tried to stop him he would reveal his secret identity? I’m pretty sure that never comes up again.
True, nothing comes of that at all
Revealing it publicly wouldn't do anything to stop Batman from trying to stop Protocol Ten. Strange, due to his obsession with Batman, likely wanted him to fail at stopping Protocol Ten first, and then reveal him as Bruce Wayne for ultimate humiliation.
Nice analysis ! And yes… an Asylum with improved mechanics would be much appreciated but probably City>Asylum
Thanks for your thoughts, I'm very surprised how tied it is between Asylum and City
This video is what arkham city is to arkham asylum
A improvement in every way possible
Thank you so much man that made me so happy to read 💪🏻
@@Guyinthetieasylum is still my favorite though
For me…
1 - Arkham Knight, because of the cool costumes, fun challenges and racing segments that I always keep on returning and have fun with and multiple characters to play as with their own costume!
2 - Arkham Asylum, a timeless classic and the OG of the series and so many nostalgia when I was lil tween
3 - Arkham City was on 2 for me when I was lil, but after Arkham Knight, it was a ok, yet nostalgic experience
I'm loving seeing asylum quite high in these comments! And I don't remember much of knight so I'm excited to give that another go for a video, after origins
idk if someone has already said that in comment section below, but i think Joker stab Batmans hand in the ending because he wanted him to loose, and technichally save him
Joker wanted batman to loose? Sorry I might be reading the comment wrong as I still don't understand jokers motive here
They both have their ups and their downs. More positives than negatives to be quite honest. I think when we played this at a young age, we took it differently and now, playing at an older age. We see the fine details kind of like fine wine.
The biggest thing I enjoyed the most from Arkham city is. How many characters from the comic books there period to me? Made Arkham city a tad bit higher on the fun level playing the video games.
I really hope you will do Arkham Knight
100% will be doing knight, just need to get through origins first 👀
So I bought both games second hand last month and played through both consecutively. I played them at a friend’s house when I was younger but I never played the entire game until now. I like the combat system and the random chatter amongst goons in city. The big map does add something but I prefer the map in asylum. The side quests in city fall short but I do like that the riddler actually appears in city and his rooms are really fun to get through (you should’ve mentioned the riddler rooms). But overall I agree that less was more in asylum and the atmosphere was just was better. If asylum had city’s combat system it would be as close to perfection as a game could be.
Completely agree with you on this! Didn't really mention the rooms for riddler as I'm not a fan of collectibles so I didn't really experience them, I liked asylum cause it was smaller to find the trophy's and you get the puzzles in each room here it's just a collect fest
I don’t think it’s just Talia he’s going after, but the simple fact that joker could be immortal and be unstoppable.
That makes more sense, just wished that was voiced when he was taking to Alfred and oracle cause all he says is he must save Talia.. comes across like he's thinking with the 🍆
27:49 now that’s a Gotham ass
Puts Talia to shame honestly 🍑
Batman Arkham city imo is my favorite Arkham game story wise. Had so many iconic characters in one game
They really did go all out for the supervillains in this game for sure!
Joker is the only one affected by the Titan because of his already mutated blood hope that helps
22:56 the one who will be shot by harley quinn
Imagine 🤣🤣🤣
Something that annoys me about the clayface twist is that detective vision says joker is dead, the flatline they just wouldnt hook up but how tf did they fool detective mode
I'd give it a pass as you can take medication/drugs to temporarily stop the heart and though super risky I could see joker doing it for the bit
actuallu with the zsasz mission the first time you get the call if you just dont decide to follow it you will automatically get his location
Wait so you can speed run the side mission? 👔
@@Guyinthetie yep
Goddamnit that Batman Animated ending song caught me the first time for the nostalgia. Then it caught me AGAIN after Harv shoots Selina. I feel ashamed.
Haha love it! Makes it worth the editing time 😁
10:02 u forgot to mention that the thugs with the body armour are new additions 2 and the ninjas
I got this game when I was about 10 years old, it was the 3rd game I'd ever gotten for the ps3 from my uncle (and at this point my mum was very anti M rated stuff but she let me play this one as it was a gift), I never played asylum by this point and didn't realise it was a trilogy until Arkham knight came out when I was older (don't judge me my ps3 was the faster computer in that house by this point and only played through the story) but jesus christ this game was great it was my first major introduction to batman and it was great. I've since gone back and played asylum, and played city again, played through knight again not saying the side content is better than asylum or knight. But the story alone is worth it. Asylum definitely has the best story overall, knight has the best gameplay (the tank can get annoying at points but it's still fun and done well enough) but overall batman Arkham city is a great combo of both gameplay and a better story than knight overall. Return to arkham did improve on the gameplay a bit on ps4 so theres that too
Thanks for sharing that was a nice read, don't worry when I was younger the Xbox 360 was the most hightech item in my household too 🤣
4:22 and the GOTY edition has it too but it has basically every dlc of the game
Beautiful video! congrats on 2k now! I think Arkham City has many and I mean many improvements upon Asylum. However, because of its risker and bigger approach of a sequel, it also has far far bigger flaws. Catwoman's missions felt like one of those. They never came in the perfect moment and always felt like they interrupted Bat-man's story as you stated.
Thank you so much for the kind words 🙏🏻 yes I feel like cat women was only put into the main plot to sell the DLC / MINT copies not sure if this was a developer decision or a publisher one but it hurts the quality of her playtime so much!
I dislike the combat. I didn’t expect to have so few control over Batman’s movement during the combat.
He does just kinda snap between thugs right 💪🏻👔
Crazy that Rocksteady could release this game only two years after asylum and yet they delivered trash after 9 year with kill the justice league. Goes to show, corporate greed truly does destroy creativity.
Once the suits get involved it's all jover 💪🏻👔
i just replayed this game after about a half a decade and it was so much fun. I really had an extra sense of appreciation after the suicide squad debacle.
It's the reason I've gone back to them, to wash that suicide squad taste out of my mouth
I like city more then asylum since i liked the combat better and the part at the beginning where you play as brucey was good also love that they introduced the grapple boost thing even tho its only a little boost but i hate that they trapped bane in a cage like he couldn't break that shit woulve been awesome to have a bane boss fight
We have seen bane run through a wall at asylum but the worlds most flimsy gate can hold him a bay ok 🤣
Really excited for when you get to Arkham Origins next. That game was definitely underrated when it first came out. More recently however people have gone back to this game and have praised it for its great story and amazing performances and it has in my opinion the second best story in the series with the first being Arkham City. It also has the best and most accurate depiction of Bane ever outside the comics.
Seeing a lot of people state this since so started doing the Arkham games, super excited to give it another go
Are we just gonna ignore the fucking 8K?
4:39 You say that as if the money from sales even goes to the developers at all lmao. All that money goes straight to the publisher, and the devs will be lucky to see a sinlge cent of that extra revenue. There's a reason game developers often live game-to-game meanwhile the big studio executives live in houses worth tens or even hundreds of millions. The industry is corrupt.
I agree, as someone who used to recruit in the game industry I know how hard it is for the guys on the front lines on the titles, maybe I should of been more specific and say publishers rather then developers pushing the new sales.
Tha is for the feedback 💪🏻👔
The whole reason Batman didnt care about protocol 10 was because if he didnt stop the Joker he thought he would gain immortality and Talia would also die.
Still feels weak to me but that is just my opinion
City’s and Asylum’s main story both end roughly halfway to 100% - that’s my biggest gripe. I’m working on my 3rd 100% at the moment after first playing about a year ago. Between my first and second play throughs of both, I played Knight about 75 times. Now I like City much more, ironically because of the difficulty of getting 100%. I now think all three games are equally good. Flawed yes, but still addictive and gripping.
Arkham asylum is the only one I have ever 100% the later games just seem to ask too much of you 😕 still great games
@@GuyinthetieCongrats on getting 100% on Asylum! And for sure, getting 100% on City is a slog. More than once I wondered if Rocksteady hated us. 🤣
Never played any of the Batman games 💀 at least I get to experience what they are like through these videos of yours dude.
Also have to admit ‘two guns bitch’ is one hell of a line 😂
Thanks Ali means so much 💪🏻
If you like video games, trying to play at least ONE of the 4 Arkham games is a must
@@Assassinboy8084fun I love videos games, but the style of the Arkham games as well as the beat em up style gameplay is not my cup of tea.
@@alitatoe respect
Well put together video and you've earned my subscription, but I have two things I disagree with.
1. Batman reacting that way to the possibility of Talia's death isn't weird when you realize that he actually loves her in this universe, so his out-of-character reaction is rather a telltale of how deeply he cares for her.
2. Never saw Ra's-Al-Ghul as the main villain, it's Joker - again. The chaos of Protocol 10 also makes more sense for Ra's and not Hugo Strange. He wasn't okay with Protocol 10 since he was actually trying to stop it the entire game? It was one moment of weakness.
Other than that, great assessment man, I look forward to checking out the rest of the content you put out!
Brilliant thoughts and I can see what you mean with Talia but I still hate the ra's plot twist.. I feel like if we didn't go fight him for the cure it would work far better and be way more surprising
Thank you for taking the time to write out your thoughts always great to read them 💪🏻
@Guyinthetie thanks a ton, man! Looking forward to seeing more of your videos, I'll check out your Arkham Asylum video too, I've always felt like it was a more "complete" Batman experience than any of the other games.
One thing you didn't mention was what a mess they made of the menus compared to Arkham Asylum. I had 0 complaints about the menus in Asylum and didn't mind spending time browsing through them, but in Arkham City I basically have nothing but complaints.
- The character profiles are mostly just copied and pasted from Asylum.
- The character models are in-game 3D models instead of the custom 2D artwork in Asylum.
- Instead of finding interview tapes in the overworld and listening to them as you unlock them, you have to complete a row of riddler challenges to unlock each one. Not only does this mean that you'll unlock them very late into the game, but you also have to visit the specific tab in the Riddler menu with the completed row in order to unlock the tape, and there is nothing to indicate that you can or should do this. In other words, you'll probably unlock many tapes all at once and have to listen to them all in a row, which isn't as interesting as spacing them out. The tapes are also more about the story of Arkham City specifically, unlike Asylum where they felt more like a showcase of the personalities of the game's villains.
- Solving riddles in City unlocks backstory about Arkham City instead of character profiles. Each riddle is tied to a specific story, some of which are split into multiple parts across different riddles, making it really difficult to make sense of what you're reading.
- The upgrade screen is split into multiple tabs, and most of the space is taken up by things you already have unlocked from the start of the game, or stuff that you unlock automatically as you go, which makes it hard to find what you're looking for.
I always thought Arkham Asylum was the best game in the series. The story was simplicity itself; the Joker is running Arkham Asylum and you have to catch him. The game fills the available space perfectly, giving you nothing more or less than the entire Arkham Asylum to roam around in. It also allows multiple villains to take part with no contrivances required, as you would expect to run into any one of them in the Asylum. Arkham City on the other hand starts with the borderline nonsensical notion of Strange's Arkham City project, and in the City you get to visit such places as... a museum, a courthouse, a chuch and a steel mill? It's not exactly exciting to explore such locations compared to Arkham Asylum, which is a location anybody will recognize and associate with Batman in an instant. And while Asylum might get flak for the execution of the final boss fight with Joker, it is at least conceptually strong, in contrast to the final fight with an out-of-nowhere Clayface, which might be stronger in execution, but a weak concept for a final boss overall (even if the twist is good).
I also agree that the side missions are mostly annoying and take away from the focus and stakes of the story. Nothing like trying to reach a Riddler trophy while being simultaneously taunted by a nearby goon and being stalked by a Tyger helicopter, while the game is giving you instructions on how to use the grapnel boost and Zsasz's phone rings in the distance. Talk about distracting. It's not a bad game; they made improvements to the gameplay and the Mr. Freeze fight was cool. But overall I found it disappointing compared to Arkham Asylum, which I never get tired of playing.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I loved the setting of Arkham City's highly militarized urban gang warfare. Sure, I guess the locations you visit aren't inherently unique and distinctive, but I thought it was pretty cool to go through them and see how they've been taken over by the gangs; Penguin's exhibits in his museum, Two-Face's show trial at the courthouse, and Joker's Funland in the steel mill.
That’s…certainly an opinion
If you make a "two guns bitch" T-shirt with that freeze frame. then ill totally buy jt
Oh now that is tempting 💪🏻👔
goated video bro, can’t wait to see videos about the next 2 games
Hopefully I don't disappoint 😉
It was at this moment, Vicki became an incompetent friend who got herself kidnapped.
True but I thought batman would at least give a frown or something haha
Not Talia, not worth his expression 💀
I feel like Hugo strange was kinda a good guy but Batmans dumb no killing rule made more people die than if protocol 10 actually worked out fully
8:56 Stop flexing ma dude, we can't all be this good.
I am the vengeance
Arkham City > Arkham Asylum
I don't think one is better than the other.
But I like the story of City more than Asylum.
Although plot of a wild goose chase in city (the cure) Is a bit undercooked.
It is really hard to pick which amazing game is slightly more amazing when it's literally by like 0.1%
@@Guyinthetie I completely agree
It was a phenomenal game and has aged well and do still play it today, but it wasn’t my favourite. Arkham knight was my top one and origins followed that. I would however truly love to see a Batman from year one, with batcave and Wayne mayor interactions.
Year one batman would be amazing!!
"It's Batman!" * selina shows up * wait... I don't think that's Batman...
The dialog in this game is perfection!"
I don’t remember Deadshot killing random people. I hate when people lie to make them seem right.
Not so much a lie more they are random to the main plot thread as they were just people Hugo wanted gone
@@Guyinthetie so you don’t like side quests being side quests.
When the pay off is such a nothing burger yes, Deadshot literally cries and then gets taken out with 1 take down in a nothing stealth section it's undercooked
The bit with Batman beating up anyone who doesnt sub reminds me of Japan's Segata sanshiro. Buy a Sega Saturn, OR SUFFER HIS WRATH
Asylum > City
STRICTLY because of the aesthetic, like I feel like city did everything better gameplay wise and I'm really happy they leaned into the movement of batman, but I do agree with the video on how there was a little bit of a comic book charm lost when it comes to the transition in between games. Also love the video I've been consuming everything batman recently and this video honestly deserves a lot more attention because it is set up really nice
This is awesome seeing people agree with me on this! Felt like I was going crazy replaying this game cause something just felt slightly off the entire game
Arkham City > Arkham Asylum
I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but City truly holds a special place in my heart.
It does do so much of what asylum done but way better 👍🏻
@@Guyinthetie Yes, but credit where credit is due, Asylum certainly has that comic book feel that City just doesn’t. City feels more like Batman: GTA, which isn’t exactly a bad thing, but I guess it ultimately comes down to personal preference in that regard.
Short Answer: Yes
Long Answer: Yes, of course.
I got all the three games for around €9 Because of a deal caused by kill the justice league so more people can play the game
I wish they kept the double takedown in arkham knight they replaced it with the fear takedown and the silent takedown or is there an upgrade for that?
The fear takedowns look cool and I kept trying to do a double takedown in knight as they still put thugs together like the game wants you to do it but yeah it's gone 😭
My new favourite youtuber strikes again
Seriously thank you so much for that!!!
@@Guyinthetie i really appreciate the fact that you are doing the arkham games and also i noticed the quality has improved
Originally i preferred Asylums tighter world and creepy story but ive recently found myself only really wanting to replay City and Origins (only the story) and sometimes Knight.
I think Arkham City is an incredibly designed sandbox masterpiece that gets better the more times i replay it. I love Knight too except the tank battles which spoil the pacing in their design....sadly.
Great breakdown of the game! Honestly may be a hot take but I actually think this game is overrated. Sure it’s really really good but I don’t think it’s FANTASTIC. I still can’t decide what my favorite Arkham game is because each have so many good things about them. Excited for the rest of the series breakdown!
Honestly thought I was having a hot take here but quite a few of you guy's agree 👍🏻 we are not alone 💪🏻
Also I'm sure the only side missions that show up before going to the Steel Mill are Zsaaz, Azrael and the Ar challenges. Deadshot and Bane show up wen going to the Gcpd and Riddler and Hush show up wen u go to the Museum.
Bane and Deadshot were before jokers steel mill the others you are right are after the museum except freeze's wife that's after wonder city and the boss fight
I liked Origins a lot so it would be interesting to see you go over it eventually
Yes I'm quite surprised how well received that game was, looking forward to giving it another go
Only complaint about city and the rest of the Arkham games after asylum, is that they ditched the comic book style ui and visuals
Yes!! Something as simple as the combo counter in asylum looked straight out of a comic book and City goes for generic hightech UI instead
joker is sick because he is a hardtime addict of mystery chemicals and the titan reacted with his blood which is making him like the guy that was blasted with radiation and kept alive for 2 months
Never thought of the titan mixing with the chemicals in him from the plant tbh
Still a missed opportunity to make a game entirely from the perspective of Harley.
tone-wise the series lost a lof of grit that was present in Asylum but City has the best gameplay and challenge maps, Origins is a close second because of mostly being the same, in some aspects they did learn from what people liked about City
I agree gameplay wise the series just gets better, story-wise I feel they start to fall short
Well im very glad Batman isn't beating the crap out of me
Haha thank you for the support 🙏🏻
I loved city so much more than any of the other 3 games but recently it hasn’t been as good and my thoughts have changed drastically about each since. But I still think that I prefer city>asylum. I can’t wait for origins and then knight review.
I always thought city was the peak but the same as you my opinion has changed over the years and I rate asylum more now, Origins will be interesting
Where subs? Why he not have more subs? Can he not the good content? His content be peak.
Ok I’ll stop with that, banger vid ngl 👍
Thanks man, considering we were at 50subs when I posted the Arkham asylum vid we have been cooking 💪🏻
I did like all the Arkham games a lot but Arkham knight was 100% my favourite
Haven't heard many people put knight at the top of the list that's super interesting 🤔
@@Guyinthetie I just love the side missions and exploration of the map ( I also love the Arkham knight (character) and knights version of scarecrow)
I’m currently working on the 100% for this game and the campaigns are about to make me implode. Also, Asylum>City.
100% the Arkham games after asylum is quite the mental challenge I salute you sir 🫡
Shouldn’t batarangs work like they do w Ra’s all the time?
Actually you are right haha 😂
Love the videos, Subscribed!
Thank you so much 🙏🏻