I wish a lot more superhero movies actually took their fights seriously. When someone threatens to kill you or your loved ones, it's supposed to be tense. A dire scenario where there shouldn't be any light hearted music or any stupid gags. That's part of the reason why movies like Winter Soldier are so good. That's what a "fight" is supposed to be, not a theme park ride
I couldn't agree more with you. All the fights in Winter Soldier are just so desperate and brutal. The threat is real, and it makes the movie mean more.
I think there's plenty of room for both, and a lot of it being down to which superhero it is and when in their arc it's happening. Some belong mostly at the playful end of it like Guardians of the Galaxy, others like Batman rock it at the serious end. Both need good writers to be good; certain sects in Marvel seem to think that throwing dumb, high volume humor at bad writing fixes it though so they overuse that way too much.
@@Fe7AceCompletely agree. Super Hero movies really excel at combing humor and seriousness. Suicide Squad is one the top examples I can think of that done perfectly.
what doesn't help is this MCU (counting endgame backwards as a different MCU cause it might aswell be) has no stakes or consequences, for a phase where every film has a new thanos level threat that could threaten the universe (or even the multiverse....fuck me) nothing happens cause we KNOW already that wont happen, they have more movies to make so it's obvious, take sakovia, the heros "won" but that battle caused the civil war cause of the accords, IT HAD MAJOR CONSEQUENCES. the eternals? oh they have a cool statue poking out of earth now, actually I can't think of any other movie/show that has even a single consequence......
Taika was the same. He knew his movie sucked (L&T) if you watch some of his interviews before it came out he doesn't speak highly of it. For some directors it's a pay cheque, and they move on to better more creative things where they have full control.
@@Natta44My dude Taiki had more control then before. Thor sucking is all his fault.Marcel csn only change action scenes and such they cant reshoot a awful unfunny script.
My issue with the writing? They had Captain Marvel destroy the Supreme Intelligence and cause the overall destruction of the Kree OFFSCREEN, and like nobody besides the villain calls her out for it. Like, there was an opportunity for Kamala to learn her favourite hero is flawed, or Photon to see her aunt as this genocidal lunatic, but it doesn't go anywhere. That's the sort of thing that shouldn't be swept under the rug.
@@tvtaughtmethismesscuz the writers suck at world building and think u can get away with shit like that. She had a flaw in the first even if it wasn't the most entertaining to you. This time tho they justified it as evil people get what they deserve even tho this has ramifications.
A lot of new writers seem not to understand that fights can have just as much character development as a conversation if done well. “Actions speak louder than words” and all that.
Can I also add something about that Iron Man and Thor fight?? I also like the fact that they show more for Loki's character as well, because he had the opportunity to get away from Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor. But He didn't... He just sits there smiling, looking happy that all this is happening. While even if this is a short shot, it says a lot about Loki and his character too establishing him as a villain. So you also get an idea of what the rest of the team is truly up against.
9:45 Carol reminds me of Vegeta during the Android Saga; she's egotistical, self-centered, is more powerful than the other heroes, and answers every problem with violence. However, unlike Vegeta, she is never punished for her shortcomings and any opposition she faces crumbles before her might in seconds. I shouldn't be surprised the MCU fucked up this badly, considering they introduced what is essentially their version of Perfect Cell in Secret Invasion.
You do remember that even in his base form(no super saiyan form) Vegata could destroy a planet(he in fact did) and that means even back then he was OP as hell and why I lost interest in the DB series for it was just by luck or writer's intervene that somehow nothing bad happened that the heroes can not survive or come back from.
@@discoshrew7403 Actually I wasn't missing any point for it is clear example of OP characters and they barely count as characters. So thank you discoshrew7403 for basically making yourself look a moron.
I absolutely love the scene by scene comparisons. You’re one of the few people that do that. Not only giving us examples of what has gone horribly wrong but pointing out when it was done correctly, allowing in the contrast to make your arguments for you. Very good sir. Very good.
I think a better way to limit captain marvels powers would be to give her a consequence for using them. Maybe it gives her a moral downfall, maybe each time she uses her powers she gets weaker or ages quicker. Oh just have another member of the patriarchy come suck away some of her powers cuz she’s just so awesome
But as we've seen, there aren't even consequences to her actions, never mind her powers. She is responsible for something between 2 to 4 GENOCIDES, but only the villain ever even comes close to bring that up. And that's the villain, so ofc they're wrong.
I actually feel bad for Brie Larson bc I think she’s just the useful fool for Disney and the writers and producers are the ones wrecking the show. You can tell from her reaction that everyone at work was lying to her by hyping her up and telling her how great she will be in this role and now she’s taking the brunt of the public backlash bc it’s her face on the screen. She hasn’t done herself many favors in the press but she’s going to have a lot of trauma from this.
I'm not a massive MCU fan, & even I like Iron Man & Thor's fight scene. Why they're fighting is clear, it's a good balance of action & comedy that fits in like Thor blasting Tony's suit with lightening that only amplifies his power. Thor able to knock Tony off his feet with a headbutt, I love it.
I would’ve introduced captain Marvel as a high ranking officer in the Nova Corps, I would’ve written her personality to be like it is in the books, a compassionate warrior who’s fierce and won’t back down, I’d introduce Nova as her second in command, make him naive and impulsive, imagine Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt in Edge of tomorrow, as the plot generally revolved around peace bargaining between the Skrulls and Kree.
I blame Taika Waititi and Thor: Ragnarok. What seemed initially to just be a 'different' and more comical one-off turned into the blueprint for Marvel movies after Endgame. Nothing is really serious, the main character can be an afterthought, comic books are for nerds.
To be fair, Marvel movies have always had problems with not taking their stories serious enough and undercutting dramatic tension with jokes. It's one of the main reasons why I wasn't a bit fan of Avengers 2.
The whole swapping places could have been an awesome idea! If you had a more legitimate reason for the swapping, defined rules that are followed, real consequences. Like, imagine if members of marvels family die because if the chaos in the swaps? One if the hero is horribly injured when they swap into an attack? It could have been both funny at times, tragic, and really made for a great movie . .. . And I don't even care for the Marvels, capt Marvel or any of them. It was just a cool concept if done right
I’ve seen all of this before but you did such an excellent job of putting together a concise, defensible explanation of all thathas gone wrong. You make your points while not belaboring them and move onto your next points. Humorous, well paced, and engaging. Nice to see your channel growing steadily.
The dramatic fall of the MCU was avoidable. While after endgame the MCU would always be on a downward trend. I think that Disney has cut the lifespan of the MCU short. Disneys main problem was to stop taking their franchise seriously or treating it with the respect it deserves. Why should i take marvel seriously if Disney doesn't.
The problem with these super hero movie fights is that they aŕe not trying to kill each other, ever. They are just, fighting, for entertainment. It doesnt make you feel any sense of risk.
What's funny is that for whatever reason, in China, the film is called Captain Marvel 2 That's because this is what this movie is but for I guess they knew all the fan ire and backlash, had little faith in this movie... And STILL decided to produce and release this movie
Honestly I love your scene by scene comparison but it was pretty simple when they swapped. The rule was they swap only when: TWO or more use their powers at the same time. And only the ones using the power swap. So if just one of them was firing away, they didn't swap. From what I could tell, they did follow that rule.
I'm glad you said Infinity War. I'm sure a lot of people would say Endgame because it was the conclusion to that story, but I thought it was a mediocre film that provided a weak, contrived resolution to the Thanos problem.
They should've just put a lot of characters to rest, created new heroes and Arceus forbid me, produce standalone movies which are just a single history with start, middle and end and not some piece of a big plot going for decades.
They didn’t even bother giving Monica a superhero name. They literally just use her name in the marketing I’ve never seen such a lazy use of a hero. I can’t name any other hero in the MCU where a character has comicbook pseudonym but they’re marketed by using their real name instead
Dar-Benn is literally the worst "sympathetic" villain MCU ever tried The Krees genocide the Skrulls and invade planets, Carol was 100% justified in taking out their leader, it's not her fault they're so incompetent that the moment their leader is dead, the empire crumbles, and it's definately not Carol's fault that these dumbasses went into a civil war that destroyed their own sun and atmosphere, at any point the Krees could've say "well this war is killing our planet, maybe we should stop?" but they didn't
1:30 You have to understand though. Wanda’s depression is a get out of jail free card for her to do anything she wants, no matter how reprehensible. Can’t say the same for Thor though. His depression is funny because he’s a fat bumbling loser.
It's extremely pissed me off from the very beginning that Captain Marvel's powers do not make any sense. She gets her powers not from direct contact with an Infinity stone, but from being nearby an engine that's being powered by the space stone, not the power stone which would make more sense for the kind of power she has, but the bloody space Stone. How does being near an engine powered by the space stone make her and vulnerable give her energy beams allow her to breathe in space and become basically a god? Captain Marvel has been screwed up from the very beginning regardless of how her movie did.
Yeah, that doesnt make sense. Also how come vision can shoot lasers and stuff with the mind stone. To be honest, what does the mind stone even allow you to do? I gotta look that up.
Once they tryed to re-boot Marvel Universe but the only good thing what remain was Milles Morales who was almost killed by Capitain Marvel because she believet in a sugestion to Milles will kill Capitain America. That happend in the comics by the way.
The Ultimate Universe was less of a reboot, more of a test run at a more 'cinematic' setting for Marvel - albeit they were still looking at licensing and partnerships instead of doing it 'in house'. There were, genuinely, a lot of interesting ideas... That they'd later screw up, leaving Miles as the one remaining idea the audience hadn't soured on. As for the Civil War comics... Cripes, those comic events and the aftermath were just *painfully* written, answering stupid questions they'd already answered more completely in earlier comics.
@@watchm4ker i know they spared Milles for posibly two reasons. 1. For sake of diversity like how they do now with all the woke mesages. And 2. To have anather Spiderman to make to suffer.
Another reviewer pointed out that female fight scenes in the mcu never have any stakes. They don't get knocked around too hard and hardly ever break a sweat.
aside Black Widow, yes they desperate want to potray women is strong troupe but do it wrong way even male struggle hard and has moment where they vulnerable. but female hero especially Captain Marvel? she act like perfect unmovable object and act like girl boss. it feel jaring even when she in a room with the rest of avenger at beginning of Endgame. whole hero at their lowest point but she act like unaffected and superior than the rest despite the blip affected whole universe no stake at all despite female character would make it easier and more impactfull when they struggle to overcome hardship. these element would make audience warm up with the characters but it has none of Captain Marvels. another good example is Ironheart lmao that thing is shit. some of these writed by female itself which is baffled me.
@@nerychristian yeah, i forgot about that and they good but many time just no, they do mostly the same things with other characters like Wolverine suffering like Spiderman because it a person too good when everyone say to DC is dark, and Dark Phoenix is broken like Capitain Marvel just to nerf of kill her is not the main character of the story.
@@ruskibruskiEndgame was such a disappointing resolution to a great story. The time travel thing was so lame that even Black Widow's sacrifice couldn't restore a sense of dignity to the film.
Black Girl Magic. That’s my catchphrase. Superman has up up and away, The Thing has It’s Clobbering Time, The Sub Mariner has Imperious Rex, Mighty Mouse has Here I Come To Save The Day etc…
When you showed that bit of her flying up after destroying Thanos’ ship, I actually forgot that there wouldn’t be a photoshop of The Don’s face over hers.
Haven't seen it but if the switching was telegraphed with idk a bit of glow that builds up as they use their powers then it could seem less arbitrary and instead more rules-based. Also maybe if they don't use their powers then the glow dissipates to force them to not use their powers as much but still able to a little without it feeling inconsistent. Also give each character different rates of build up and dissipation, in Captain Marvel's case she'd get a faster build up and slower dissipation for more of a nerf
Honestly, Marvel now desperately needs their version of the WB DC Elseworlds label to tell stand-alone good stories as long as Disney hires filmmakers who care for source material and don’t interfere. Like Todd Phillips and Matt Reeves get to play in their own pocket universe sandboxes not part of a shared universe. Outside the MCU marvel films focused on story rather than franchises and also no real world politics is the only solution to money. Otherwise, just sell Marvel like in the 90’s to many other companies that will allow these possibilities.
One of other bad things of mcu movie/show now is most of the movie/show not have a proper fight scene. The fight in these movie/show now just punch, kick and the enemy fly like a whole mile away, they not use any proper move like captain america or have a calculated move like iron man. They just fight like some random idiots with super power
Just to clear it up: they only switch places when they use their powers SIMULTANEOUSLY. That's why they were practicing their rhythm and coordination in the space ship.
Great video bigger cat man, the way they can't even manage to explain or just keep the core aspect of the concept, is indicative of Marvel's current state. Such wasted potential.
It doesn't help that Larson has shown many times in public appearances that she's terrible. She insults and puts down most guys she works with and makes them uncomfortable both on set and in interviews, responds to nice words with haughtiness, reacts to normal questions most actors hear as if they're negative when they aren't and gets hyper-defensive about it, and generally makes most people around her not like working with her. The movie itself having bad writing, bad directing, and bad choreography would earn it less shame if it wasn't also well-known that both the main actress and the director hate men in general, and the movie was even made with the plan being to promote the most toxic form of feminism, rather than made as entertainment or with any serious attempt at something people would enjoy watching. When a movie is made by people who hate most of the fans and the franchise itself, is deliberately not intended as entertainment at all, and has the names and faces of people who very publicly piss off most of the people who see them, it shouldn't be a surprise when your end result is a movie that often gets compared to diseased poo. That exact phrasing has actually been applied to it, and while it's a bit exaggerated, it was a complete incoherent disaster of a movie and a cringe-fest that I'd rather forget existed, but I can't because it was so bad it burned my memory.
captain marvel should had been the main villain in all honesty they should have introduced rouge as a apprentice to dar-benn (what should have stayed a male) then turn her good and had to steal her powers to stop her in the end this was all a big fluster cluck made no sense the writers and director omg its like a room full of monkey's Flerken a football
The way the swap works is explained in the movie: They swap when they use their powers simultaneously. So only one of them using a power won't trigger the swap. That being said, I think there was at least one instance where 1 + 2 used their powsers and 3 got swapped, so there's that. And why the heck does K.Khan fit into the trinity of them when she's nowhere near the dimensional rift when the swappening started?
i really dont understand how we go from planning and referencing scenes like thor attacking tony and it accidentaly charging the suit 7 years laters using that to his favor with the mega lasers while thor boosts him to such a mess of a phase 4 and 5 what the fuck happened
My personal favourite is Thor Dark world where Loki kills like 5 or 6 dark elves with just 1 dagger. Took him like 10 seconds. Its a quick fight to the death. No prolonging. Then Loki sees Thor and Jane in danger and rushes to save them. Thats not team work. But in Thor 1,there is great display of teamwork when they enter Jotunheim. Thor still reckless cos this is the beginning of the movie,only cares about his dead body count. We have all using their unique set of skills. Loki with magic,Sif with spear,Fandral with a sword etc. And Loki keeping an eye on all of them to protect them. That fight scene has even started it all with Loki since this is where frost giant touches him and he realizes he is one of them, goes crazy,turns into villain. That was great writing.
i might have been interesting if carol denvers lost her power instead just like in the comics and relied ti her fresh teammates formijg a team, it will established her as a new leader of avengers,
The power-level doesn't even have to be a problem, but they make it one. Superman is a good example of this. He is practically invincible, yet the fight scenes can still have tension, since the people he is protecting (I know, a hero? protecting people?) aren't. Kryptonite is a crutch that is everywhere in DC, because some writers apparently couldn't write fight scenes unless there's stakes that concern the main character specifically. You don't need to nerf the powers if you write the fights in a different way. But that would require significantly more effort on the writers part, so go-go gadget swapping magic. Having a significantly more powerful character is also interesting for team dynamics. Superman has gotten into conflicts with the justice league because he is more powerful and durable than anyone else in the league. As he says in one of the cartoons: "Fact is I'm the invincible one, every punch I take is one they don't have to". A fantastic setup for a character arc about trusting your teammates, plenty of interpersonal tension, good storytelling. A third aspect that could be explored on powerful characters is their relation to the more fragile world. Superman has his famous world of cardboard speech, where he tells about the struggles of needing to constantly control his power to not cause catastrophic damage and kill everyone he fights. Captain marvel doesn't seem to have any such grievances and is just happily genociding aliens without a second thought. Having a character reflect on the effect their powers have on the world around them is a great way to establish internal conflict. Marvel misses all of these options and instead goes for what is basically a reskinned version of kryptonite: the writer saying "nuh uh". I think it's particularly telling that they choose a way that has an impact only for the characters themselves, and pass all the ways they could exploer the characters relation to others. No, the only thing that matters is how the characters themselves are inconvenienced by this and how they feel about themselves.
Its clear that everytime disney has 'failed' is when they become more greedy. In their 2d animation era, they made loads of mid projects after success of their mid century stuff. They all failed, they moved into tv, low budget films, mostly failing. Then the renaissance of the 80s 2d disney movies came and put them back on top. Then other studios started to top them like pixar in the 90s/2000s so they bought them, and now pixar style movies are failing. Hence buying Marvel too to get the older male market on board. But then they tried to change everything to fit their agenda to make it for kids and more girls. Hence failure again. This cycle will continue. Disney is a greedy corporation. They will find the next thing to consume and spit out and ruin.
I don't mean to sound like a comic book nerd although that technically isn't a bad thing especially nowadays, but in order to catch up to the 2017 Wonder Woman movie hype Marvel gave us Carol Danvers Captain Marvel instead of the male version that came first, And back in the day I wouldn't have mind as long as the film was good like the majority of the mcu was, but not only did the cracks show when the majority of the time the mcu basically burnt it's comic roots and lost a lot of really good stories in that regard but now the MCU isn't making any good films other then maybe one or two decent one's that have come out after endgame but that was way back in 2019 and they have released a lot garbage since then
Captain Marvel ruined Avengers Endgame. First thing we saw of the movie (in the first teaser trailer) was that Tony Stark was stranded somewhere in space. The question was: are the, now obviously demoralised, remaining Avengers going to work together to find him, or will Tony Stark use his legendary intelligence and skills (think what he achieved in a cave in Iron Man) to save himself? No. Captain Marvel finds him with no trouble and he's rescued immediately. And what about the massive spaceship that Thanos commands? That's gotta be tough to take down, right? Will the big final battle see the Avengers divided again as a team attempts to take down the imposing spacecraft from within? No. Captain Marvel just flies through it and it's dealt with immediately. It's so easy that she could've done it by accident.
I miss the days when the only woman on the avengers team were: # A super intelligent russian agent who was a master in her craft, had such a strong role as a friend to the team and # A green badass who tried to stop her mad titan father and found a family through the roughest place. Did I also mention that they were never outlined for their gender because the audience was like 'they are cool and have personality so idc' Widow legit was going to tackle a fucking new york invasion with a glock, so much cooler than just flying through a ship
The inherent problem with Captain Marvel (besides Brie Larson).....is that the character was written as invincible....and who can restart a freaking dying sun! No one cares for a hero that has no vulnerabilities. Brie has a great rack though.
Marvel Studios is dead. The reason the content sucks and the reason critics aren't as hard on this recent junk as they were on the past good movies is because their views finally align. Marvel Studios no longer takes Marvel content seriously, and of course neither do most movie critics.
Even Captain Marvel was a mediocre movie. MCU's writing and storytelling ended with Infinity war when it was at its peak. Its been pathetic ever since, even with Endgame (the movie was disappointing on soo many levels). Loki is the only redeeming media MCU has put out since then. They desperately need a reboot cos this aint gon work
It was watching Captain Marvel in the theaters, knowing then that I had been lied to by Disney and the marketing, that made Endgame, aside from NWH and Guardians 3, my end point in watching or actually caring about the MCU..
Small correction: The chemistry between the Avengers is far from underappreciated. Wheadon is well known for writing great group chemistry, and it's often called one of the movies strong points.
Also can we just all agree how The movie made No since what so ever like not only the switching but the Plot being wasn’t the script like changed like 32 times
First sign of decay in MCU for me was Avengers 2, the one w ultron. That’s when the CGI took over, lame comedy took over, and the stunts got weak, also all the background extra actors got retired. Up till avengers 1 there’s a 90s vibe to the action, Winter soldier has a 90s vibe too, but that’s it.
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I wish a lot more superhero movies actually took their fights seriously. When someone threatens to kill you or your loved ones, it's supposed to be tense. A dire scenario where there shouldn't be any light hearted music or any stupid gags. That's part of the reason why movies like Winter Soldier are so good. That's what a "fight" is supposed to be, not a theme park ride
I couldn't agree more with you. All the fights in Winter Soldier are just so desperate and brutal. The threat is real, and it makes the movie mean more.
General Zod...care to step outside?
I think there's plenty of room for both, and a lot of it being down to which superhero it is and when in their arc it's happening. Some belong mostly at the playful end of it like Guardians of the Galaxy, others like Batman rock it at the serious end. Both need good writers to be good; certain sects in Marvel seem to think that throwing dumb, high volume humor at bad writing fixes it though so they overuse that way too much.
@@Fe7AceCompletely agree. Super Hero movies really excel at combing humor and seriousness. Suicide Squad is one the top examples I can think of that done perfectly.
what doesn't help is this MCU (counting endgame backwards as a different MCU cause it might aswell be) has no stakes or consequences, for a phase where every film has a new thanos level threat that could threaten the universe (or even the multiverse....fuck me) nothing happens cause we KNOW already that wont happen, they have more movies to make so it's obvious, take sakovia, the heros "won" but that battle caused the civil war cause of the accords, IT HAD MAJOR CONSEQUENCES. the eternals? oh they have a cool statue poking out of earth now, actually I can't think of any other movie/show that has even a single consequence......
The fact that even the director hated her own movie fucking killed me
Stop misogyny
Taika was the same. He knew his movie sucked (L&T) if you watch some of his interviews before it came out he doesn't speak highly of it. For some directors it's a pay cheque, and they move on to better more creative things where they have full control.
@@Natta44My dude Taiki had more control then before. Thor sucking is all his fault.Marcel csn only change action scenes and such they cant reshoot a awful unfunny script.
@Natta44 yes, Taika had almost full control of L&T...
@@funnyk2755It's not misogynistic.
My issue with the writing? They had Captain Marvel destroy the Supreme Intelligence and cause the overall destruction of the Kree OFFSCREEN, and like nobody besides the villain calls her out for it. Like, there was an opportunity for Kamala to learn her favourite hero is flawed, or Photon to see her aunt as this genocidal lunatic, but it doesn't go anywhere. That's the sort of thing that shouldn't be swept under the rug.
EXACTLY! Carol doesn’t seems to have any flaws or weaknesses and it’s making her character uninteresting
It's the M-She-U, dude. Women are never held accountable anymore.
That's because this movie was supposed to come out AFTER captain marvel 2. Which is another one on the pile of things going against it
@@tvtaughtmethismesscuz the writers suck at world building and think u can get away with shit like that. She had a flaw in the first even if it wasn't the most entertaining to you. This time tho they justified it as evil people get what they deserve even tho this has ramifications.
@@Wolffman109shut up incel
A lot of new writers seem not to understand that fights can have just as much character development as a conversation if done well. “Actions speak louder than words” and all that.
There’s an entire genre of Japanese comics that tell stories and develop characters through fights
maybe the new movies are being written by AI
How did Sam Jackson manage ti say that with a straight face? That is some great acting.
a lot of new writers seem not to understand anything
They didn't watch Naruto, so obviously they wouldn't know about that...
It's amazing how finding a bracelet transforms you into Bruce Lee
Who she learn to fight from 😂
@@Natta44 The script 😉
@@martinb2213 lmao.
Brooks, you are wrong.
The Marvels was incredible because it gave us the phrase, "BLACK GIRL MAGIC, GO!"
In twenty years, this will be considered a hidden gem. The greatest and shittiest musical of them all, even better than Joker 2. LOL.
It's staggeringly racist. Just an all around terrible single line summation of woke identity politics.
Right up there with "It's Morbin time."
Black lives matter
In my family we tattoo that phrase on our first born children to provide lifelong inspiration 😂
I would honestly rather watch John Malkavitch say "what the fuck is this" on loop for 90 mins than watch this movie
Stop misogyny
Watch Burn after reading, then. Pure joy. :)
@@funnyk2755 go to Gaza, gay troll. :)
@@funnyk2755 Tell that to Hollywood. The female characters they come up with are an insult to women.
Can I also add something about that Iron Man and Thor fight?? I also like the fact that they show more for Loki's character as well, because he had the opportunity to get away from Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor. But He didn't... He just sits there smiling, looking happy that all this is happening. While even if this is a short shot, it says a lot about Loki and his character too establishing him as a villain. So you also get an idea of what the rest of the team is truly up against.
And the fact Loki could have escaped but he didnt cos he wanted to get captured and get on the flying ship.
God that lil clip of Tony and Thor fighting even after 11 years gets me so into it...man I miss those days...
9:45 Carol reminds me of Vegeta during the Android Saga; she's egotistical, self-centered, is more powerful than the other heroes, and answers every problem with violence. However, unlike Vegeta, she is never punished for her shortcomings and any opposition she faces crumbles before her might in seconds.
I shouldn't be surprised the MCU fucked up this badly, considering they introduced what is essentially their version of Perfect Cell in Secret Invasion.
You do remember that even in his base form(no super saiyan form) Vegata could destroy a planet(he in fact did) and that means even back then he was OP as hell and why I lost interest in the DB series for it was just by luck or writer's intervene that somehow nothing bad happened that the heroes can not survive or come back from.
@@JustTooDamnHonestok
Vegeta is peak character development (I’m biased)
@@JustTooDamnHonesttotally missing the point there buddy. Well done
@@discoshrew7403 Actually I wasn't missing any point for it is clear example of OP characters and they barely count as characters.
So thank you discoshrew7403 for basically making yourself look a moron.
I absolutely love the scene by scene comparisons. You’re one of the few people that do that. Not only giving us examples of what has gone horribly wrong but pointing out when it was done correctly, allowing in the contrast to make your arguments for you. Very good sir. Very good.
Agree!
Absolutely agree, showing comparisons is one of the best ways to get an argument across.
True
I think a better way to limit captain marvels powers would be to give her a consequence for using them. Maybe it gives her a moral downfall, maybe each time she uses her powers she gets weaker or ages quicker. Oh just have another member of the patriarchy come suck away some of her powers cuz she’s just so awesome
Imagine if it made her uglier everytime she used them. Most women would let a baby be ripped apart by a crocodile.
@@landor7610bro what 💀
@@Amityz72323 I am assuming(desperately hoping) that they meant to say "would not let".
But as we've seen, there aren't even consequences to her actions, never mind her powers. She is responsible for something between 2 to 4 GENOCIDES, but only the villain ever even comes close to bring that up. And that's the villain, so ofc they're wrong.
@landor7610 no your just an incel loser who's the reason why people hate men you pathetic bag of sh1t
I actually feel bad for Brie Larson bc I think she’s just the useful fool for Disney and the writers and producers are the ones wrecking the show. You can tell from her reaction that everyone at work was lying to her by hyping her up and telling her how great she will be in this role and now she’s taking the brunt of the public backlash bc it’s her face on the screen. She hasn’t done herself many favors in the press but she’s going to have a lot of trauma from this.
Actors literally as a job do what they are told. They're basically stage props. Paid live action puppets.
Agreed, Disney threw her under the bus. If I was her I'd have left after endgame. Left with dignity.
true, i also feel bad for her, she is just a tool to disney and i think she is slowly starting to figure it out
Yeah, we all want to fuck Brie, harsh but true. LOL.
I haven’t felt bad for Brie ever since her rant about the people who didn’t like that awful wrinkle in time adaptation
I'm not a massive MCU fan, & even I like Iron Man & Thor's fight scene. Why they're fighting is clear, it's a good balance of action & comedy that fits in like Thor blasting Tony's suit with lightening that only amplifies his power. Thor able to knock Tony off his feet with a headbutt, I love it.
The best marvel scene may be the Hulk slamming loki around mid monologue "puny god"
They turned MCU into a musical 🤣
When having a musical in hawkeye WAS the joke.
The scene was so ridiculous.
God seeing old marvel next to new marvel blows my mind. It’s insane to think they are the same franchise.
I would’ve introduced captain Marvel as a high ranking officer in the Nova Corps, I would’ve written her personality to be like it is in the books, a compassionate warrior who’s fierce and won’t back down, I’d introduce Nova as her second in command, make him naive and impulsive, imagine Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt in Edge of tomorrow, as the plot generally revolved around peace bargaining between the Skrulls and Kree.
I blame Taika Waititi and Thor: Ragnarok. What seemed initially to just be a 'different' and more comical one-off turned into the blueprint for Marvel movies after Endgame. Nothing is really serious, the main character can be an afterthought, comic books are for nerds.
To be fair, Marvel movies have always had problems with not taking their stories serious enough and undercutting dramatic tension with jokes. It's one of the main reasons why I wasn't a bit fan of Avengers 2.
we're deep in the panderverse now
I prefer the movies from the virtueverse
"put a chick in it, make her gay and lame" - Cartman Kennedy
"PUT A GAY DIVERSE WOMAN IN IT AND MAKE HER MORE F**KING LAME!"
&
"WE'VE GOT TO PANDER HARDER!"
Is much of Modern Hollywood's slogan at this point.
We're in the pandergame now...*fades away*
Losers all those who liked ur comment too
The whole swapping places could have been an awesome idea! If you had a more legitimate reason for the swapping, defined rules that are followed, real consequences. Like, imagine if members of marvels family die because if the chaos in the swaps? One if the hero is horribly injured when they swap into an attack?
It could have been both funny at times, tragic, and really made for a great movie . .. . And I don't even care for the Marvels, capt Marvel or any of them. It was just a cool concept if done right
It's a corny idea and it's an obviously contrived gimmick to force conflict where there was none.
We’re a long way from Cap vs Winter Soldier vs Black Panther in those well choreographed hand-to-hand combat scenes.
0:46 The theatre I went to supported Thanos over Captain Marvel and when she got punched, entire theatre cheered for Thanos😂😂😂
same
Oof.
They're there all incels then
I’ve seen all of this before but you did such an excellent job of putting together a concise, defensible explanation of all thathas gone wrong. You make your points while not belaboring them and move onto your next points. Humorous, well paced, and engaging.
Nice to see your channel growing steadily.
The dramatic fall of the MCU was avoidable. While after endgame the MCU would always be on a downward trend. I think that Disney has cut the lifespan of the MCU short. Disneys main problem was to stop taking their franchise seriously or treating it with the respect it deserves. Why should i take marvel seriously if Disney doesn't.
I hate Disney and Kevin Feige needs to step up their game
Thats why i like the dcamu where they ended it on a point where it doesnt end it nor does it fully start something
The problem with these super hero movie fights is that they aŕe not trying to kill each other, ever. They are just, fighting, for entertainment. It doesnt make you feel any sense of risk.
What's funny is that for whatever reason, in China, the film is called Captain Marvel 2
That's because this is what this movie is but for I guess they knew all the fan ire and backlash, had little faith in this movie... And STILL decided to produce and release this movie
Those kids from 01:22 wasn't even scared and the one with the cap was even smilling for some reason.
That's because WandaVision is dogshit.
they literally said fuxk you to every single storytelling and cinematics technique just to show 3 women as cool as possible
Honestly I love your scene by scene comparison but it was pretty simple when they swapped. The rule was they swap only when: TWO or more use their powers at the same time. And only the ones using the power swap. So if just one of them was firing away, they didn't swap. From what I could tell, they did follow that rule.
but its not explained OR shown clearly ,just because they couldnt slow down the fight and let us see what the f is actually happenning
X-Men Days of Future Past was the endgame to superhero movies for me. Anything great since like Logan or Infinity War has just been icing on the cake.
I'm glad you said Infinity War. I'm sure a lot of people would say Endgame because it was the conclusion to that story, but I thought it was a mediocre film that provided a weak, contrived resolution to the Thanos problem.
@@InJeffable agreed, Infinty War is far better than Endgame.
They should've just put a lot of characters to rest, created new heroes and Arceus forbid me, produce standalone movies which are just a single history with start, middle and end and not some piece of a big plot going for decades.
@@InJeffable Agreed. Its like they wrote themselves into a corner and they had no idea how to get out
"how bout that?" Gotta love RDJ
They didn’t even bother giving Monica a superhero name. They literally just use her name in the marketing
I’ve never seen such a lazy use of a hero. I can’t name any other hero in the MCU where a character has comicbook pseudonym but they’re marketed by using their real name instead
Dar-Benn is literally the worst "sympathetic" villain MCU ever tried
The Krees genocide the Skrulls and invade planets, Carol was 100% justified in taking out their leader, it's not her fault they're so incompetent that the moment their leader is dead, the empire crumbles, and it's definately not Carol's fault that these dumbasses went into a civil war that destroyed their own sun and atmosphere, at any point the Krees could've say "well this war is killing our planet, maybe we should stop?" but they didn't
1:30 You have to understand though. Wanda’s depression is a get out of jail free card for her to do anything she wants, no matter how reprehensible.
Can’t say the same for Thor though. His depression is funny because he’s a fat bumbling loser.
It's extremely pissed me off from the very beginning that Captain Marvel's powers do not make any sense. She gets her powers not from direct contact with an Infinity stone, but from being nearby an engine that's being powered by the space stone, not the power stone which would make more sense for the kind of power she has, but the bloody space Stone. How does being near an engine powered by the space stone make her and vulnerable give her energy beams allow her to breathe in space and become basically a god?
Captain Marvel has been screwed up from the very beginning regardless of how her movie did.
Yeah, that doesnt make sense. Also how come vision can shoot lasers and stuff with the mind stone. To be honest, what does the mind stone even allow you to do? I gotta look that up.
I'm honestly still just trying to wrap my head around Ms. Marvel's massive power and power origin changes from comics.
Once they tryed to re-boot Marvel Universe but the only good thing what remain was Milles Morales who was almost killed by Capitain Marvel because she believet in a sugestion to Milles will kill Capitain America. That happend in the comics by the way.
The Ultimate Universe was less of a reboot, more of a test run at a more 'cinematic' setting for Marvel - albeit they were still looking at licensing and partnerships instead of doing it 'in house'. There were, genuinely, a lot of interesting ideas... That they'd later screw up, leaving Miles as the one remaining idea the audience hadn't soured on.
As for the Civil War comics... Cripes, those comic events and the aftermath were just *painfully* written, answering stupid questions they'd already answered more completely in earlier comics.
@@watchm4ker i know they spared Milles for posibly two reasons.
1. For sake of diversity like how they do now with all the woke mesages. And
2. To have anather Spiderman to make to suffer.
Another reviewer pointed out that female fight scenes in the mcu never have any stakes. They don't get knocked around too hard and hardly ever break a sweat.
aside Black Widow, yes
they desperate want to potray women is strong troupe but do it wrong way
even male struggle hard and has moment where they vulnerable. but female hero especially Captain Marvel? she act like perfect unmovable object and act like girl boss. it feel jaring even when she in a room with the rest of avenger at beginning of Endgame. whole hero at their lowest point but she act like unaffected and superior than the rest despite the blip affected whole universe
no stake at all despite female character would make it easier and more impactfull when they struggle to overcome hardship. these element would make audience warm up with the characters but it has none of Captain Marvels. another good example is Ironheart lmao that thing is shit.
some of these writed by female itself which is baffled me.
The MCU has long since dried up and is a shell of its former self😒😔
Marvel really fell off after infinity war
I stopped watching after endgame with their stupid disney time travel to save everyone ending…
Unsurprisingly, i never liket Marvel at all beside a few heroes like Spiderman.
@@teobratuteodor1728 The Xmen comics are cool too. It's too bad movie studios suck at adapting the comics
@@nerychristian yeah, i forgot about that and they good but many time just no, they do mostly the same things with other characters like Wolverine suffering like Spiderman because it a person too good when everyone say to DC is dark, and Dark Phoenix is broken like Capitain Marvel just to nerf of kill her is not the main character of the story.
@@ruskibruskiEndgame was such a disappointing resolution to a great story. The time travel thing was so lame that even Black Widow's sacrifice couldn't restore a sense of dignity to the film.
You should do a scene comparison with Spider-Man (Doesn't matter which)
Black Girl Magic. That’s my catchphrase. Superman has up up and away, The Thing has It’s Clobbering Time, The Sub Mariner has Imperious Rex, Mighty Mouse has Here I Come To Save The Day etc…
I wish Marvel Studios just focused on Mar’Vell and Carol Danvers as Miss Marvel instead of Rushing It, this Unasked Sequel was Doomed from the Start.
I don't know if you cover historical films but i would LOVE to watch you cover the abomination that is Ridley Scott's "Napoleon".
When you showed that bit of her flying up after destroying Thanos’ ship, I actually forgot that there wouldn’t be a photoshop of The Don’s face over hers.
Happy Thanksgiving, go get some food now!
BLACK GIRL MAGIC!!!
Haven't seen it but if the switching was telegraphed with idk a bit of glow that builds up as they use their powers then it could seem less arbitrary and instead more rules-based. Also maybe if they don't use their powers then the glow dissipates to force them to not use their powers as much but still able to a little without it feeling inconsistent. Also give each character different rates of build up and dissipation, in Captain Marvel's case she'd get a faster build up and slower dissipation for more of a nerf
Someone thought a singing planet was a good idea and no one else told them "no".
Man, every snippet I see of the musical planet just looks so cringey, why did that get the green light?
Honestly, Marvel now desperately needs their version of the WB DC Elseworlds label to tell stand-alone good stories as long as Disney hires filmmakers who care for source material and don’t interfere. Like Todd Phillips and Matt Reeves get to play in their own pocket universe sandboxes not part of a shared universe. Outside the MCU marvel films focused on story rather than franchises and also no real world politics is the only solution to money. Otherwise, just sell Marvel like in the 90’s to many other companies that will allow these possibilities.
One of other bad things of mcu movie/show now is most of the movie/show not have a proper fight scene. The fight in these movie/show now just punch, kick and the enemy fly like a whole mile away, they not use any proper move like captain america or have a calculated move like iron man. They just fight like some random idiots with super power
Another great video. Thanks for all of your great content, Jedi Brooks. Keep up the good work!
I've been waiting (not really though lol) for you to make this video.
It's like you're reading my mind.
Wait wait wait, did fury really say Black girl magic??
Unfortunately yes
and it's literally the closest thing we ever get to an explanation of her powers actually are
😂😂
yea de motherfuxker did
Yes they went THIS cringe.Its actually in the pre release trailers too.
Blackrock and those behind the curtain are the ones who are truly pulling the strings here. Those people are pure evil.
Just to clear it up: they only switch places when they use their powers SIMULTANEOUSLY. That's why they were practicing their rhythm and coordination in the space ship.
Great video bigger cat man, the way they can't even manage to explain or just keep the core aspect of the concept, is indicative of Marvel's current state. Such wasted potential.
It doesn't help that Larson has shown many times in public appearances that she's terrible. She insults and puts down most guys she works with and makes them uncomfortable both on set and in interviews, responds to nice words with haughtiness, reacts to normal questions most actors hear as if they're negative when they aren't and gets hyper-defensive about it, and generally makes most people around her not like working with her.
The movie itself having bad writing, bad directing, and bad choreography would earn it less shame if it wasn't also well-known that both the main actress and the director hate men in general, and the movie was even made with the plan being to promote the most toxic form of feminism, rather than made as entertainment or with any serious attempt at something people would enjoy watching.
When a movie is made by people who hate most of the fans and the franchise itself, is deliberately not intended as entertainment at all, and has the names and faces of people who very publicly piss off most of the people who see them, it shouldn't be a surprise when your end result is a movie that often gets compared to diseased poo. That exact phrasing has actually been applied to it, and while it's a bit exaggerated, it was a complete incoherent disaster of a movie and a cringe-fest that I'd rather forget existed, but I can't because it was so bad it burned my memory.
captain marvel should had been the main villain in all honesty they should have introduced rouge as a apprentice to dar-benn (what should have stayed a male) then turn her good and had to steal her powers to stop her in the end this was all a big fluster cluck made no sense the writers and director omg its like a room full of monkey's Flerken a football
He used siege operator names to divide the video worth the like 🔥
I love your videos, Jedi! Keep it up
I must admit that when they started singing, I actually got a little bit freaked out and started panicking
The way the swap works is explained in the movie:
They swap when they use their powers simultaneously.
So only one of them using a power won't trigger the swap.
That being said, I think there was at least one instance where 1 + 2 used their powsers and 3 got swapped, so there's that.
And why the heck does K.Khan fit into the trinity of them when she's nowhere near the dimensional rift when the swappening started?
whats that video of the guy laughing at the dancing scene from?
i really dont understand how we go from planning and referencing scenes like thor attacking tony and it accidentaly charging the suit 7 years laters using that to his favor with the mega lasers while thor boosts him to such a mess of a phase 4 and 5 what the fuck happened
My personal favourite is Thor Dark world where Loki kills like 5 or 6 dark elves with just 1 dagger. Took him like 10 seconds. Its a quick fight to the death. No prolonging. Then Loki sees Thor and Jane in danger and rushes to save them.
Thats not team work. But in Thor 1,there is great display of teamwork when they enter Jotunheim. Thor still reckless cos this is the beginning of the movie,only cares about his dead body count. We have all using their unique set of skills. Loki with magic,Sif with spear,Fandral with a sword etc. And Loki keeping an eye on all of them to protect them. That fight scene has even started it all with Loki since this is where frost giant touches him and he realizes he is one of them, goes crazy,turns into villain. That was great writing.
Yay a scene comparison video for this movie! :D
i might have been interesting if carol denvers lost her power instead just like in the comics and relied ti her fresh teammates formijg a team, it will established her as a new leader of avengers,
Bruh, Excellent Assessment. Thanks for takin' tha Time.
Companies know they can sell crap as long as it's tagged with starwars, marvel, disney ......
The power-level doesn't even have to be a problem, but they make it one. Superman is a good example of this. He is practically invincible, yet the fight scenes can still have tension, since the people he is protecting (I know, a hero? protecting people?) aren't. Kryptonite is a crutch that is everywhere in DC, because some writers apparently couldn't write fight scenes unless there's stakes that concern the main character specifically. You don't need to nerf the powers if you write the fights in a different way. But that would require significantly more effort on the writers part, so go-go gadget swapping magic.
Having a significantly more powerful character is also interesting for team dynamics. Superman has gotten into conflicts with the justice league because he is more powerful and durable than anyone else in the league. As he says in one of the cartoons: "Fact is I'm the invincible one, every punch I take is one they don't have to". A fantastic setup for a character arc about trusting your teammates, plenty of interpersonal tension, good storytelling.
A third aspect that could be explored on powerful characters is their relation to the more fragile world. Superman has his famous world of cardboard speech, where he tells about the struggles of needing to constantly control his power to not cause catastrophic damage and kill everyone he fights. Captain marvel doesn't seem to have any such grievances and is just happily genociding aliens without a second thought. Having a character reflect on the effect their powers have on the world around them is a great way to establish internal conflict.
Marvel misses all of these options and instead goes for what is basically a reskinned version of kryptonite: the writer saying "nuh uh". I think it's particularly telling that they choose a way that has an impact only for the characters themselves, and pass all the ways they could exploer the characters relation to others. No, the only thing that matters is how the characters themselves are inconvenienced by this and how they feel about themselves.
Its clear that everytime disney has 'failed' is when they become more greedy. In their 2d animation era, they made loads of mid projects after success of their mid century stuff. They all failed, they moved into tv, low budget films, mostly failing. Then the renaissance of the 80s 2d disney movies came and put them back on top. Then other studios started to top them like pixar in the 90s/2000s so they bought them, and now pixar style movies are failing. Hence buying Marvel too to get the older male market on board. But then they tried to change everything to fit their agenda to make it for kids and more girls. Hence failure again. This cycle will continue. Disney is a greedy corporation. They will find the next thing to consume and spit out and ruin.
6:07 Overpowered characters can be used in fun way like One punch Man
I don't mean to sound like a comic book nerd although that technically isn't a bad thing especially nowadays, but in order to catch up to the 2017 Wonder Woman movie hype Marvel gave us Carol Danvers Captain Marvel instead of the male version that came first, And back in the day I wouldn't have mind as long as the film was good like the majority of the mcu was, but not only did the cracks show when the majority of the time the mcu basically burnt it's comic roots and lost a lot of really good stories in that regard but now the MCU isn't making any good films other then maybe one or two decent one's that have come out after endgame but that was way back in 2019 and they have released a lot garbage since then
Glad to see more Brooks videos!
Captain Marvel ruined Avengers Endgame. First thing we saw of the movie (in the first teaser trailer) was that Tony Stark was stranded somewhere in space. The question was: are the, now obviously demoralised, remaining Avengers going to work together to find him, or will Tony Stark use his legendary intelligence and skills (think what he achieved in a cave in Iron Man) to save himself? No. Captain Marvel finds him with no trouble and he's rescued immediately.
And what about the massive spaceship that Thanos commands? That's gotta be tough to take down, right? Will the big final battle see the Avengers divided again as a team attempts to take down the imposing spacecraft from within? No. Captain Marvel just flies through it and it's dealt with immediately. It's so easy that she could've done it by accident.
I miss the days when the only woman on the avengers team were:
# A super intelligent russian agent who was a master in her craft, had such a strong role as a friend to the team and
# A green badass who tried to stop her mad titan father and found a family through the roughest place.
Did I also mention that they were never outlined for their gender because the audience was like 'they are cool and have personality so idc'
Widow legit was going to tackle a fucking new york invasion with a glock, so much cooler than just flying through a ship
MCU is not even a shadow of itself now..
i think they only switch when they use their powers at the same time, but if only one of them use their powers it’s cool
I wonder if the writers ever feel like they did something wrong or if they really believe they did well
:06 we didn’t even want you to do it the first time.
I'll forever be angry that the Stan Lee tribute was at the beginning of Captain Marvel and not Avengers: Endgame. That's never going away in my eyes.
The inherent problem with Captain Marvel (besides Brie Larson).....is that the character was written as invincible....and who can restart a freaking dying sun! No one cares for a hero that has no vulnerabilities.
Brie has a great rack though.
Marvel Studios is dead. The reason the content sucks and the reason critics aren't as hard on this recent junk as they were on the past good movies is because their views finally align. Marvel Studios no longer takes Marvel content seriously, and of course neither do most movie critics.
I still dont understand why they kept teleporting for using their powers still lost
Even Captain Marvel was a mediocre movie. MCU's writing and storytelling ended with Infinity war when it was at its peak. Its been pathetic ever since, even with Endgame (the movie was disappointing on soo many levels). Loki is the only redeeming media MCU has put out since then. They desperately need a reboot cos this aint gon work
Honestly when the dress appeared on her I thought it was... what's his name's imagination.
They really thought they could make the Boogie Woogie work haha
It was watching Captain Marvel in the theaters, knowing then that I had been lied to by Disney and the marketing, that made Endgame, aside from NWH and Guardians 3, my end point in watching or actually caring about the MCU..
Avengers Endgame was shot in 2017, so before her movie even came out. They didn't reduce her screen time.
01:38 - 02:03 “What’s happening?” 😂😂😂
Small correction: The chemistry between the Avengers is far from underappreciated. Wheadon is well known for writing great group chemistry, and it's often called one of the movies strong points.
The homelander shot encapsulates what I'm feeling perfectly when I watch a scene from the current Marvel shows and movies.
Also can we just all agree how The movie made No since what so ever like not only the switching but the Plot being wasn’t the script like changed like 32 times
also watch that south park joining the panderverse episode which the video shows in the last 1 or 2 seconds
First sign of decay in MCU for me was Avengers 2, the one w ultron.
That’s when the CGI took over, lame comedy took over, and the stunts got weak, also all the background extra actors got retired.
Up till avengers 1 there’s a 90s vibe to the action, Winter soldier has a 90s vibe too, but that’s it.
The first Ant Man and Doctor Strange are the last entertaining MCU movies equally alive with The Winter Soldier.
It is basically a 90 min long tiktok reel, devoid of a meaningful story. It is simply a mindless visual cringey entertainment.
Carol Danvers is ms Marvel
Maaaan The Avengers was soooo daammmn good, how can Marvel have fallen so hard... Wow
I’m also so glad Deadpool 3 is coming around so I’m not having to waste a brain cell